haven't looked for a TV for about a dozen years. this video clarifies a very complicated (to me) sea of acronyms and will help me make an informed choice. excellent video.
I've been listening to your videos for over a year, you helped me successfully choose my living room tv and I particularly like how you didn't over complicate this video break down. Straight to the main points and easy to follow. Well done
Now I have the tools to sort out all this mess. I don't care about thickness nor do I watch from extreme angles, but I do have a budget so mini-LED backlighting seems like a good compromise. This is the first video of yours I've seen and you've packed a ton of good information in and organized it well, putting everything into good context. Magnificent.
I've noticed that the 800C, amongst other Samsungs, but mostly the 8K models, have visible LEDs. i.e. you can actually see the LEDs and their location. Pure junk. Mostly noticeable when blue is on screen, like a blue sky.
You skipped over the person who wants a quality TV the sits 6-10 feet away but doesn’t have the wall space or want the eyesore of more than 65” to watch movies and Netflix and can’t imagine paying more for a 5 year max lifespan TV than they paid for their first car.
Great thorough breakdown of the different technologies. In a future video, maybe you can discuss OLED burn-in. I understand this issue isn’t as bad as it used to be but I’m interested in the risk of burn-in for the current TVs.
Thank you, everyone who's not a tech nerd should save this video for future reference when tv shopping. You truly simplified a lot of tv types confusion.
I have an acient 2011 LED edge lit 3D Sharp TV that's keeps going and going. That thing has been on for an average of 16 hours a day, every day since I got it in 2011. Still looks great, but has been relegated to bedroom use. Wonder if newer TV's will last that long?
I am on a super budget. Recently, I upgraded my 40" 1080P Samsung to the 50" 4K Samsung DU7200 for only $329 on sale at Best Buy. It's edge-lit but not all that thin. Oddly enough, the back panel does get warm, but not at the edges, it's warm in the center. But, even if it lasts half as long as the other TV's you mentioned, it's 1/3 the price. I'm 74 and collecting social security so my income is limited and I got what I could afford.
Thank you, the FOMO review helped me with my Sony x95L, because I use it with my computer and don't want to risk burning the image. FOMO said that it doesn't have to happen, but according to rtings test, reddit, LG G3 had a burn-in problem. As a monitor, OLED is still a risk and it was confirmed by LG itself that this is not covered by the warranty, I reached out to LG and they wrote me back. That for my use OLED is not a good idea and I should choose another TV or another brand.
They specifically said you cannot take there test as evidence for that. It’s WAYYYYY too small a sample size. Just because 1 or a couple tvs had a problem doesn’t indicate something being a widespread issue.
I bought a 77 inch LG C3 oled for 2000$ + a cashback of 500$. I'm very happy with that decision. It was a steal. But it's always the risk of burn in. I hope that doesn't become an issue for at least 6 years
The best breakdown on TH-cam. You helped me a few years ago when I was shopping for myself, and now I am researching for a family member, and once again you are totally clutch. Thank you!
Hi fomo. Hope you and your family fine. Thanks for the video. Looking forward to the shootout. Not for what it is but what you and brian make it userfriendly , very knowledgeable and funfilled. Thanks a lot.
I live on the east coast of Florida and was without grid power for 40 hours after Milton passed thru. I have solar with 2 power walls that kept me in power the whole time. I did back off on usage - rose the AC temperature etc. even so the daytime was providing about 10 times less energy and the batteries did not get to full charge before sundown. Point is - I would not have lasted much longer unless I got some decent sunlight. Best advantage of the power walls is that my power never glitched- I only knew power was out because the app said so…
Awesome information. We are buying a new TV for our living room and was going with the Sony Bravia but our couch is long so I need the OLED since I normally am regulated to the end of the sofa....hahahaha! Thank you so very much.
I wish that you would have addressed the possibility of OLED burn in for certain users. My professionally calibrated LG E7 has finally shown this. I can’t complain too much after this many years, but I tend to keep my TVs for a fairly long time (there’s still a Pioneer 600m Kuro in the basement). My use case still has quite a bit of SDR cable and streaming, so processing is extremely important. To be fair, both you, Brian, and others address this in your detailed reviews. So, the 65” E7 will find a new home, and replacement contenders are the 85 inch Bravia 9, one of the remaining X95Ls, or possibly the new LG QNED 90T. I’m eagerly awaiting the results of this weekend’s upcoming shootout. If the Hisense U9N ever hits the market and gets a timely review, I’ll consider it, as well as the Samsungs. I was tempted by last year’s Hisense UX at this year’s blow out price but I’ll hold out. Keep up the good work.
LED can burn in as well, just has a lower chance. The damn things aren't built to last 10+ years anymore, whichever tv you buy will probably fail before you have burn in issues OLED or not. Also modern OLED's don't have a burn in issue unless you're watching something like CNN 24/7 with their silly banner.
I have C6 with no burn in but it does have a weird vertical bar that is only visible on light backgrounds- I also have a C1 83 that has terrible venetian blinding that looks like complete crap in the greys - I get mad while watching it all the time.
I've had the A90J for three years and could upgrade to any display but there isn't any logical reason to. It's bright enough for me and the picture is stellar.
FOMO - I can get the Samsung QN90C in 85" for $2k (government employee discount). Good deal? I have a large, bright room with lots of windows and the TV faces the lake (additional reflection/glare) so OLED is out of the question. I also do exactly ZERO gaming. Thanks.
When comparing Rtings's reviews for the Sony non mini-LED X90L with the Hisense U8N and TCL 2024 QM8, I'd still go with the Sony. After comparing the Rtings reviews, I'm still satisfied with my X90L even though it might have more blooming and its highlights might not get as bright because of its accuracy and the various other areas of importance to me it excels in all at once. I got my Sony 85-inch X90CL from Costco for $2,000 in December of 2023 and even after checking out Rting's reviews of the 2024 offerings, I couldn't be happier about how the Sony X90CL falls perfectly within that sweetspot of performance, size, and price. I still wait for its rival within this sweetspot, but none of the reviews have revealed such results at this moment.
@@stopthefomo It depends on what's more important I guess. For this price range, if deep black levels, minimal blooming, and extra bright specular highlights are most important, then the Hisense U8N and TCL 2024 QM8 would be the way to go. If pre-calibration color accuracy, shadow detail, gradient handling, and PQ EOTF tracking are more important, then for the price, I prefer the Sony X90L from 2023 which is still being carried over. At this price, we have to pick our poison. If money was no object, I'd have a Sony 85-inch Bravia 9 on one cart and a 77-inch Sony A95L on the other cart. I'd choose which one to roll into my viewing area based on ambient lighting, time of day, what I'm watching, etc.. While not many of us can afford it including myself, having a Sony 85-inch Bravia 9 on one cart and a 77-inch Sony A95l on another cart is perfection. My reservations about the LG G4 is its less saturated color due to its WOLED panel.
Hey man thanks, great video! But one question: which is the least power consuming technology? I mean apart from the initial budget, which one will help me pay less electricity bills considering the same usage time? Many thanks in advance for your reply, I'd really appreciate it
I have been underwhelmed by my LG OLED C1 65 inch tv. Lately it is not been playing nice with my computer, I like to use it as a monitor when I play games. Worked fine for a while and all the sudden it refuses to recognize my PC as an input. Switching to qled
GREAT Breakdown...I'm looking for a 55" that's the great for Live Sports and Streaming . Looking for GOOD Upscaling as well with Good Viewing Angles . I don't game at all. Going from a Panasonic ST60 Plasma that still looks great....The Sony A95L
I’m LG 65” E7/C1 OLED now, but TCL’s QN851G at 98” is tempting for a living-room upgrade. 83” v 98” and next year’s TCL 115” as a possibility makes things super hard. I fell in love with OLED because of the blacks, but TCL proves mini-LED is doing blacks justice now. Thoughts FOMO & FOMO fam?
Hey guy, due to financial issues all I can afford is a 500 to 600 range tv 65inch. What tv would u recommend it don't matter if its just a regular led TV but something with bright colors and deep blacks. I'm not sure if they even have anything in that price range and also with durability to last me for a while. Please help.
OLED is a type LCD too, OLED is a lighting system just ike QLED. What OLED does is allow each pixels light to be completely switched off i.e. no light/jet black. QLED is a whiter light than normal LED and splits the screen into sections that can be dimmed independently - the more arrays (sections) the finer the dimming. My 4K Samsung QLED QE55Q9F computer monitor has 320 dimmable sections compared to 4K OLED has about 8 million sections (pixels)...Always get a Sony or Panasonic TV; they know about movies/cinema. My main TV is Pany TX-P65VT65 plasma...
I thought leds to be pretty reliable which could last longer. But just sometime ago my sony x90j right part started blinking. I cant believe tv that costs so much could have such problem
Awesome explanation. Thanks for sharing. I can't justify replacing my 65" LG nano (I assume some type of QLED), but at least I understand it a bit better. I just picked up what is termed a "mini LED" ultra wide monitor for my PC. It seems to do much much better with blacks and blooming.
Excellent topic as always FOMO, thank you FOMO, would do you go with 85inch x85k Sony for 8 feets viewing distance or should i get 65" flagship oled tv?
I ditched my S95B for a Sony Bravia7. This is the most impressive TV I have ever had. My previous TVs were: Panasonic VT 20EA,LG B7, Samsung S95B. As you can see this is my first LED TV. Bravia 7 outclassed all those tvs except OLEDS pitch blacks but B7 has a very good backlight system even in a pitch black room,the blooming is invisible. Brightness,color saturation,shadow details,color accuracy significantly outclassed my previous TVs. I was an OLED fanatic but not anymore
@Icipher4 Color accuracy,saturation,higher color volume,way higher brightness. This TV reaches over 2.000nits in it's most accurate picture preset. The processor. Even sub HD images looks outstanding. Dolby Vision content on this TV dropps my jaw on the floor everytime.
@@cenktheangel very cool. I have an S90C 77 in which is basically the same TV as S95B on my main floor and have a 85-in Bravia being delivered on Sunday but have been second guessing myself and hoping that it will be at least as good if not better than the Samsung I currently have. Has your Bravia 7 been able to keep up in darker scenes? Are you really noticing any weaknesses compared to the OLED?
@Icipher4 My complaints with OLEDS were: WOLEDs lose alot of color saturation,accuracy and brightness under higher brightness conditions and totally the reverse on QDOLEDs lose alot of saturation,accuracy under lower brightness conditions. Due to self emmissive characteristics OLEDs are really bad in terms of shadow details (acknowledged it after I bought the B7) Backlight system of this TV is literally very good. I am a person who watches his TV mostly on a dark room and Backlight works extremely impressive,even on DV content never noticed any blooming or grayed black bars. The viewing angle of course is very poor compared to OLED but it is a no issue for cos I always watch TV directly on front of it. Contrast is very good but again not OLED level also not an issue cos it delivers really contrastfull,bright and accuratly saturated images.
hi, i am eyeing on Samsung QN900D 85inch, LG C4 83inch, or bravia 9 85inch. Viewing distance is about 10f away from the TV, the largest TV that i can fit is 85inch. I am not a gamer and we are watching movie and daily TV programme. Which one would you recommend for my setting?
Great Video-- but I still need some help deciding? I have a den in my condo with no direct lighting sources that can't be eliminated. My TV will be 7.5 feet from my farthest viewing area--directly in front of the screen. I do no play video games--but I like movies and sports. I may be able to fit a 65" TV in the space--but 55" is more likely the correct size for the area. I was leaning towards the LG OLED B4 model but you intrigued me with the choice of the TCL QM8 mini-LED choice. Am I splitting hairs here or do I save some money and buy the TCL. BTW I am replacing a Vizio 50" 2007 LCD model. Love to hear your thoughts--Bill
Sony - 75" class BRAVIA 7 Mini LED QLED 4K UHD Smart Google TV (2024) What is your opinion? Not gaming at all. Watch a lot of Nascar, College football, MLB, Fubo television, shows, and Netflix/Prime movies. Currently priced at $1799 in October 2024. I also Liked and Subscribed. Thank you so much for your amazing presentation.
Amazing video well explained Im looking for a 65 inch tv My budget for tv is £1000 At the moment in uk im getting a 65qn85d for £1087 (with work discount) and 65u7n for £899 Im not a gamer I watch sports and tv series and the odd movie here and there Which one would you recommend ❤
You failed to mention that OLEDs in ANY form or technology CAN'T SUSTAIN the brightness for a long time and the degrade more rapidly than LCD/LED TVs. Also, even the bright LG pales in a bright room environment , that IS the most common TV environment around the world
How bright of a room is bright? Are we talking just your normal ambient light from windows with the curtains closed or wide open windows and every available light turned on? I would think it's a relative term. For example, I live in a 2bdrm apt and my current old TV sits across from a big glass west facing sliding door to my balcony that has dark curtains that stay closed pretty much 24/7. Just opening them slightly creates a glare that's annoying. The only light entering the space is from light bleed around those curtains and ambient light from other parts of the apt; kitchen, bathroom, and bedroom windows that have closed vertical blinds.
@@droidattack2888 The edge lighted TVs are the most common to fail, or those that are always driven hard at max brightness. My experience in TV stations favors LCD TV for their durability and less processing to protect organic compounds that by nature degrades. Having gone through CRTs, PLASMAs and OLEDs, my preference and recommendations are still good LCDs. That could change if Microleds ever make it to the common public.
@@droidattack2888 I have 4 TVs in my house, an old Samsung 32' with CCFL tubes for backlight, a 40 "Samsung with LED backlight, a Panasonic 55" LED set with 360 backlight Comtrol and the main TV is a 75" Sony also with LED full array backlight. The older Samsung was the first Samsung sold in the USA with an ATSC-1 tuner. All are running as new, and I calibrated them. I have had experience with TVs since the late '40s as a rf Engineer and had experienced a lot of burn in since then. The first LCD TVs had a problem with the color filters that degraded with UV light from the backlight and the surrounding fluorescent lights. Manufactures solved this problem immediately. We use LCDs in our TV studios and production all around and OLEDs only for color grading under light-controlled venues. When someone ask me for advice on a TV, I ALWAYS ASK for their viewing environment and the majority of them aren't favorable for OLEDs, no matter what "experts" say.
I bought an LG C1 on a deal when the C2 came out I'm yet to see a significant enough change to make it worth upgrading from my C1. I shall have to see what the G5 offers and its price, or maybe weight for a Black Friday sale on the G5 next year
I have a 77 Sony A80J and I'm very happy with it!!!!! I stream Netflix,prime,etc. I also watch movies on blu ray and 4k blu rays!!! If I upgrade it will probably be a QD OLED 83 inch whenever they come out with it!!!! I wonder if the QD OLED is worth the upgrade????????
Recently bought TCL X955 after owning 3 OLED TVs earlier, 77” C1 being the last. Do I prefer the inky black from OLED, of course. But with the contrast control and size of the mini leds, easy choice. Now with 98” I would probably need a 100+ OLED to make the next switch.
Good stuff, thanks. The spreadsheet you put together in previous years helped me a ton btw. I will say that I think the Frame looks great in a bright room. Not sure what it is, but looks better than a Edge-lit has any right to. Maybe it's the help of the Matte screen destroying all reflections too. Some of the art that they have on there though def. suffers from the lack of true black. Looks more grey than anything else.
Motion blur and Ghosting is mini led TV's greatest flaw.without a doubt OLED close to instant pixel response blows mini led out of the water when it comes to gaming
Look at the new Bravia, not a big issue anymore at all. OLED is old and flawed tech that doesn't get bright enough and has bad longevity with inevitable burn in issues sooner or later.
QD7 is -- QLED . U7N is mini led ! Mini led r way better . Usually 4X local dimming zones ! QD7 still good tho . It’s good entry mid range QLED . For example Sony X90L is -- QLED . Sony X93L n X95L r mini LED . Then SONY X85K(matted screen ) , X80K r -- old tech direct LED . No local dimming , kinda like premium version of Hisense Roku entry . Not even the Roku with QLED(still glossy ) . QD7 is innsane value . It’s d best thing for lowest cost . But U7K is much advanced , brighter , higher local dimming , better speakers (🔊 with sub woofer ? U7N U8K U8N has high end chip -- can do 4k “^7^ 144hz 🖥️ pc Gamming . Console 120hz plug in n play. I assume QLED qd7 is has lesser HZ. Just fine toning also ULED line has 18 feet high sensitivity Voice command sensor Z u can talk to TV 📺 talk to tv remote . It can search “👀…. Show “ u don’t have to type it out on key board or SHOUT at the TV for voice commands . U can tell tv to shut off etc . Lots perks.
Please, help me choose! LG - 65" Class G4 Series OLED evo 4K UHD Smart webOS TV (2024) OR Samsung - 65” Class QN900D Series Neo QLED 8K Smart Tizen TV (2024)
are the S90D's safe to get yet? are they all QD-OLEDs now? i was in bestbuy today. and the display model was the same super thin frame as the S95B i have. i thought they upgraded the frame back on the S90C even? is there a model number to look for? please assist. wth is the S85D? is that all W-OLED's? are S90D all QD-OLED in USA?
What are your thoughts on a LG 86 in. QNED Mini-LED 90T-Series 120Hz 4K HDR Smart TV with webOS 24 86QNED90TUA? This is an LED correct? It's list price is $3299.00 and for black Friday sale I can pick it up for $1799.00. You didn't mention what the pros & cons were for QNED... Thx
I am looking for a 100”to 120” tv I have looked at the Hisense U LED U8 Mini-LED versus the TCL Q LED ULTRA Q M8 QD Mini LED ULTRA so which is the best tv for shortness and color
Nice video FOMO with helpful info. Interesting that you say you would put the G4's and S95D's brightness up there with the Bravia 9. You should know since you've compared with the reference monitor 😃. Lots of folks still balk at OLED"s lack of full screen brightness compared to MiniLEDs and lower peak brightness (~1500nits OLED vs ~3000nits+ for MiniLeds). Are you saying that real world watching, the difference isn't that great?
Correct - full screen brightness (100% stimulus white) of the Bravia 9 is brighter but that does not exist in real content. The Bravia 9 is bright and arguably among the brightest on window stimulus tests but in real content the G4 and S95D match it scene for scene (65" size of course). ALSO, please remember that firmware updates may improve B9 performance or worsen OLED performance so things may change in 3 mnonths!
What about retro gamers? I am in the market for a new 4k TV, but I worry a lot of the games I will play will have static bezels/borders which could burn in on an OLED. How much of a concern is this in 2024/2025? I know all OLEDs will eventually degradate over time and burn in used to be a bigger issue, but is this something I should worry about (say if I plan to keep my TV for the next 8 years, which is how old my current TV is now).
People's that leave comments like I watch the new, sports, and its on in the back round, or my room is very bright. Just get a mini led but in no way are you actually trying to watch tv the best way possible. Local dimming zones and bright rooms will never have the best hdr picture. Whats to argue about and be confused about. I never get that depth that oled and qd oled give me.
According to the secret Sony service menu I've got over 25,000 hours on my X95K. It was a best buy open box so I guess it ran 24/7 but I've been using it heavily for over a year now with zero issue and for $800 I'm not complaining. An LCD made with quality capacitors in the power supply is going to give you your money's worth no doubt about it.
Never had OLED or Mini-LED. Would love an OLED 1st, but watch A LOT of sports with scoreboards/banners and worry about burn in, which would likely piss me off. Hate to drop OLED, but seems I’m headed to 75” Bravia7 or wait to see if Bravia9 price drops? Have had Samsungs for 20 yrs., wanting to try Sony.
Sony is the buy it once, cry once TV -> very reliable, lots of control and features. Once I switched to Sony, never had a reason to look at other brands for extra quality. Only reason one would not choose Sony is economics (price). Correction: Samsung's S95D anti glare has got me thinking I need that! Too bad it can't handle Dolby Vision.
@clauzone03 ... Thanks for the input. I'm now down to Bravia 7 or TCL QM8, I think. Bravia was at 2200, QM8 was 1500... but missed those Labor Day prices due to indecision 🥵. QM8 gets a lot of + reviews, not sure I'm even critical enough to worry. I just put a 43" TCL Q6 in a home gym and it's better than my 2017 Samsung 65", for sure. But, Sony processing rep keeps me high there, too.
@t.k.morris ...I ended up buying the 75" TCL QM8 (QM851 of 2024). Dropped from $1900 to 1500 to 1326 on one of the Amazo n Prime Days the 1st week of Oct. and BestBuy matched. The Bravia7 was $2000+. The QM8 works great, especially with 4k sports. Reading too much technical opinions ruins me...I don't notice ANY of the picture quality issues like "blooming" or "black levels"... it's all fine to me. I watch "the movie", not the"black level" (which BTW, is xlnt, lol).
I am looking for a 100”to 120” tv I have looked at the Hisense U LED U8 Mini-LED versus the TCL Q LED ULTRA Q M8 QD Mini LED ULTRA so which is the best tv for shortness and color 2:03
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haven't looked for a TV for about a dozen years. this video clarifies a very complicated (to me) sea of acronyms and will help me make an informed choice. excellent video.
Having taken a dozen years please let us know which you decide on. I’ll check back in in 2030 to see if you have made up your mind
This is one hell of a breakdown Sir. Well done.
I've been listening to your videos for over a year, you helped me successfully choose my living room tv and I particularly like how you didn't over complicate this video break down. Straight to the main points and easy to follow. Well done
Now I have the tools to sort out all this mess. I don't care about thickness nor do I watch from extreme angles, but I do have a budget so mini-LED backlighting seems like a good compromise.
This is the first video of yours I've seen and you've packed a ton of good information in and organized it well, putting everything into good context. Magnificent.
QN900D all day! The brightness and color and contrast is unbeatable. The S95D is good but the overheating causes it to dim constantly.
Have you used the S95D?
900D is beautiful but the Bravia 9 beats it all day
I've noticed that the 800C, amongst other Samsungs, but mostly the 8K models, have visible LEDs. i.e. you can actually see the LEDs and their location. Pure junk. Mostly noticeable when blue is on screen, like a blue sky.
You skipped over the person who wants a quality TV the sits 6-10 feet away but doesn’t have the wall space or want the eyesore of more than 65” to watch movies and Netflix and can’t imagine paying more for a 5 year max lifespan TV than they paid for their first car.
I’m upgrading to a bigger tv from a 10 year old lcd to c3 oled with soundbar can’t wait for it to get here😊
I’m waiting until Black Friday for a LG G4 moving up from a Vizio 4K ledx from 2017 lol
Great thorough breakdown of the different technologies. In a future video, maybe you can discuss OLED burn-in. I understand this issue isn’t as bad as it used to be but I’m interested in the risk of burn-in for the current TVs.
Best video ever from a consumer point of view on TV's.
Thank you, everyone who's not a tech nerd should save this video for future reference when tv shopping. You truly simplified a lot of tv types confusion.
I am still anxiously waiting for the Hisense U9N. I wish it would hurry up! 🏇
I have a 77" Samsung S89C QD-OLED and I'm not buying any other kind of TV until microLED becomes affordable for the mass market.
I just got the Samsung S90C 77” for $1800……very happy with it. By the way it replaces my 60” Samsung plasma tv.
This was the most helpful video I've watched on TH-cam in the past decade lol tysm!
Incredible break down and explanation of the LCD and OLED features. Thank you. Currently shopping for a new TV and I want to get it right.
OLED is a type of LCD as is mini led as is QLED; it's like an electric car and a gas car are both cars!!!
I have an acient 2011 LED edge lit 3D Sharp TV that's keeps going and going. That thing has been on for an average of 16 hours a day, every day since I got it in 2011. Still looks great, but has been relegated to bedroom use. Wonder if newer TV's will last that long?
Good video. I didn't realize that there were still some expensive edge lit TVs!
I am on a super budget. Recently, I upgraded my 40" 1080P Samsung to the 50" 4K Samsung DU7200 for only $329 on sale at Best Buy. It's edge-lit but not all that thin. Oddly enough, the back panel does get warm, but not at the edges, it's warm in the center. But, even if it lasts half as long as the other TV's you mentioned, it's 1/3 the price. I'm 74 and collecting social security so my income is limited and I got what I could afford.
Perhaps because its power board or cpu is in the centre of the tv
Yeah it's not the LED lights that get hot.
Thank you, the FOMO review helped me with my Sony x95L, because I use it with my computer and don't want to risk burning the image. FOMO said that it doesn't have to happen, but according to rtings test, reddit, LG G3 had a burn-in problem. As a monitor, OLED is still a risk and it was confirmed by LG itself that this is not covered by the warranty, I reached out to LG and they wrote me back. That for my use OLED is not a good idea and I should choose another TV or another brand.
They specifically said you cannot take there test as evidence for that. It’s WAYYYYY too small a sample size. Just because 1 or a couple tvs had a problem doesn’t indicate something being a widespread issue.
Thankyou, someone who explains the differences...guess im going to be very happy with mini...😊
TCL said its coming out with mini LED panels next year which will further improve viewing angles.
I bought a 77 inch LG C3 oled for 2000$ + a cashback of 500$. I'm very happy with that decision. It was a steal. But it's always the risk of burn in. I hope that doesn't become an issue for at least 6 years
You should be good as long as it's not ridden hard the entire time
@@veilmontTV 1300hrs on my G3 and no problems so far. 50/50 gaming and movies.
The best breakdown on TH-cam. You helped me a few years ago when I was shopping for myself, and now I am researching for a family member, and once again you are totally clutch. Thank you!
Great orientation for someone like me that has not been in the tv market for years. Thanks!!
Hi fomo. Hope you and your family fine. Thanks for the video. Looking forward to the shootout. Not for what it is but what you and brian make it userfriendly , very knowledgeable and funfilled. Thanks a lot.
thank you my friend!!
I live on the east coast of Florida and was without grid power for 40 hours after Milton passed thru. I have solar with 2 power walls that kept me in power the whole time. I did back off on usage - rose the AC temperature etc. even so the daytime was providing about 10 times less energy and the batteries did not get to full charge before sundown. Point is - I would not have lasted much longer unless I got some decent sunlight. Best advantage of the power walls is that my power never glitched- I only knew power was out because the app said so…
Awesome information. We are buying a new TV for our living room and was going with the Sony Bravia but our couch is long so I need the OLED since I normally am regulated to the end of the sofa....hahahaha! Thank you so very much.
Thank you for the extensive explanation for the different technologies , how about the pick cell burning which has less OLED or Mini LED ?
I wish that you would have addressed the possibility of OLED burn in for certain users. My professionally calibrated LG E7 has finally shown this. I can’t complain too much after this many years, but I tend to keep my TVs for a fairly long time (there’s still a Pioneer 600m Kuro in the basement). My use case still has quite a bit of SDR cable and streaming, so processing is extremely important. To be fair, both you, Brian, and others address this in your detailed reviews. So, the 65” E7 will find a new home, and replacement contenders are the 85 inch Bravia 9, one of the remaining X95Ls, or possibly the new LG QNED 90T. I’m eagerly awaiting the results of this weekend’s upcoming shootout. If the Hisense U9N ever hits the market and gets a timely review, I’ll consider it, as well as the Samsungs. I was tempted by last year’s Hisense UX at this year’s blow out price but I’ll hold out. Keep up the good work.
LED can burn in as well, just has a lower chance. The damn things aren't built to last 10+ years anymore, whichever tv you buy will probably fail before you have burn in issues OLED or not. Also modern OLED's don't have a burn in issue unless you're watching something like CNN 24/7 with their silly banner.
OMG. If your still on burn in 2024 then Something is wrong with you.
Rtings don't even mention Burn-in anymore..
@@RedPillAlways you’re not the first person that’s said that. 😏
@@glenngross605 that should tell you something..
I have C6 with no burn in but it does have a weird vertical bar that is only visible on light backgrounds- I also have a C1 83 that has terrible venetian blinding that looks like complete crap in the greys - I get mad while watching it all the time.
Hey man. Thank you for this video. It’s very informative.
What would you say is the best 55” OLED 8K TV?
Plasma of course. I want to watch moving images on a TV, not beautiful snapshots.
Great informative video! I just bought the Sony Bravia Mini LED QLED and it’s awesome!
Sony - 75" class BRAVIA 7 Mini LED QLED 4K UHD Smart Google TV (2024) ???
Just ordered 65” S90C for $1500 from Best Buy!
How do you like it? I'm considering this TV, but I'm concerned that it will dim constantly with F1 or NFL content.
I've had the A90J for three years and could upgrade to any display but there isn't any logical reason to. It's bright enough for me and the picture is stellar.
Great video! Would you choose LG G3 or C4 for 60% pc gaming, 20% DVD/Blu-ray (with DTS concerts) and 20% streaming videos/lower quality content?
FOMO - I can get the Samsung QN90C in 85" for $2k (government employee discount). Good deal? I have a large, bright room with lots of windows and the TV faces the lake (additional reflection/glare) so OLED is out of the question. I also do exactly ZERO gaming. Thanks.
When comparing Rtings's reviews for the Sony non mini-LED X90L with the Hisense U8N and TCL 2024 QM8, I'd still go with the Sony. After comparing the Rtings reviews, I'm still satisfied with my X90L even though it might have more blooming and its highlights might not get as bright because of its accuracy and the various other areas of importance to me it excels in all at once. I got my Sony 85-inch X90CL from Costco for $2,000 in December of 2023 and even after checking out Rting's reviews of the 2024 offerings, I couldn't be happier about how the Sony X90CL falls perfectly within that sweetspot of performance, size, and price. I still wait for its rival within this sweetspot, but none of the reviews have revealed such results at this moment.
I'd choose it over last year's QM8 as well but this year's U8N is a beast and I would choose it over the X90L
@@stopthefomo It depends on what's more important I guess. For this price range, if deep black levels, minimal blooming, and extra bright specular highlights are most important, then the Hisense U8N and TCL 2024 QM8 would be the way to go. If pre-calibration color accuracy, shadow detail, gradient handling, and PQ EOTF tracking are more important, then for the price, I prefer the Sony X90L from 2023 which is still being carried over. At this price, we have to pick our poison. If money was no object, I'd have a Sony 85-inch Bravia 9 on one cart and a 77-inch Sony A95L on the other cart. I'd choose which one to roll into my viewing area based on ambient lighting, time of day, what I'm watching, etc.. While not many of us can afford it including myself, having a Sony 85-inch Bravia 9 on one cart and a 77-inch Sony A95l on another cart is perfection. My reservations about the LG G4 is its less saturated color due to its WOLED panel.
Excellent Video!! You are one of the Master Reviewers for televisions!
Outstanding information! Thank you!!
Hey man thanks, great video!
But one question: which is the least power consuming technology? I mean apart from the initial budget, which one will help me pay less electricity bills considering the same usage time? Many thanks in advance for your reply, I'd really appreciate it
I have been underwhelmed by my LG OLED C1 65 inch tv. Lately it is not been playing nice with my computer, I like to use it as a monitor when I play games. Worked fine for a while and all the sudden it refuses to recognize my PC as an input. Switching to qled
Great video. One additional topic to consider in the mix would be matte versus gloss finish.
I just got a 65" S95C for $1,547. I'm super stoked.
No issues with lack of Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos?
Should i get hisense u7n or sony x90l for around the same price? Kindly share your thoughts 🙏🙏🙏
Great vid, helped clear up all this tech in an easy to follow format. Thanks
GREAT Breakdown...I'm looking for a 55" that's the great for Live Sports and Streaming . Looking for GOOD Upscaling as well with Good Viewing Angles . I don't game at all. Going from a Panasonic ST60 Plasma that still looks great....The Sony A95L
I’m LG 65” E7/C1 OLED now, but TCL’s QN851G at 98” is tempting for a living-room upgrade. 83” v 98” and next year’s TCL 115” as a possibility makes things super hard. I fell in love with OLED because of the blacks, but TCL proves mini-LED is doing blacks justice now. Thoughts FOMO & FOMO fam?
i’d be afraid the tcl wouldn’t last half as long as the LG
Beat breakdown of tv tech I've found. Gj homie
Awesome 👍 I bought the 65 inch tclqm8 mini LED full array... awesome TV.
Hey guy, due to financial issues all I can afford is a 500 to 600 range tv 65inch. What tv would u recommend it don't matter if its just a regular led TV but something with bright colors and deep blacks. I'm not sure if they even have anything in that price range and also with durability to last me for a while. Please help.
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OLED is a type LCD too, OLED is a lighting system just ike QLED. What OLED does is allow each pixels light to be completely switched off i.e. no light/jet black. QLED is a whiter light than normal LED and splits the screen into sections that can be dimmed independently - the more arrays (sections) the finer the dimming. My 4K Samsung QLED QE55Q9F computer monitor has 320 dimmable sections compared to 4K OLED has about 8 million sections (pixels)...Always get a Sony or Panasonic TV; they know about movies/cinema. My main TV is Pany TX-P65VT65 plasma...
I thought leds to be pretty reliable which could last longer. But just sometime ago my sony x90j right part started blinking. I cant believe tv that costs so much could have such problem
Awesome explanation. Thanks for sharing. I can't justify replacing my 65" LG nano (I assume some type of QLED), but at least I understand it a bit better. I just picked up what is termed a "mini LED" ultra wide monitor for my PC. It seems to do much much better with blacks and blooming.
Excellent topic as always FOMO, thank you FOMO, would do you go with 85inch x85k Sony for 8 feets viewing distance or should i get 65" flagship oled tv?
Gee I hope you keep making content. First time I listened to one of yours. Your a very good teacher. Thankyou.
Great video Fomo. Still love all your work buddy. Fomo is the G4 as colourful as a top end mini led.
Very, very well explained. Thanks!
I ditched my S95B for a Sony Bravia7. This is the most impressive TV I have ever had.
My previous TVs were: Panasonic VT 20EA,LG B7, Samsung S95B. As you can see this is my first LED TV.
Bravia 7 outclassed all those tvs except OLEDS pitch blacks but B7 has a very good backlight system even in a pitch black room,the blooming is invisible.
Brightness,color saturation,shadow details,color accuracy significantly outclassed my previous TVs. I was an OLED fanatic but not anymore
Great choice. Mini leds are just superior overall imo. No more burn in anxiety too
You're liking the Bravia 7 more than the S95B? What are the biggest differences you notice?
@Icipher4 Color accuracy,saturation,higher color volume,way higher brightness. This TV reaches over 2.000nits in it's most accurate picture preset. The processor. Even sub HD images looks outstanding. Dolby Vision content on this TV dropps my jaw on the floor everytime.
@@cenktheangel very cool. I have an S90C 77 in which is basically the same TV as S95B on my main floor and have a 85-in Bravia being delivered on Sunday but have been second guessing myself and hoping that it will be at least as good if not better than the Samsung I currently have. Has your Bravia 7 been able to keep up in darker scenes? Are you really noticing any weaknesses compared to the OLED?
@Icipher4 My complaints with OLEDS were: WOLEDs lose alot of color saturation,accuracy and brightness under higher brightness conditions and totally the reverse on QDOLEDs lose alot of saturation,accuracy under lower brightness conditions.
Due to self emmissive characteristics OLEDs are really bad in terms of shadow details (acknowledged it after I bought the B7)
Backlight system of this TV is literally very good. I am a person who watches his TV mostly on a dark room and Backlight works extremely impressive,even on DV content never noticed any blooming or grayed black bars.
The viewing angle of course is very poor compared to OLED but it is a no issue for cos I always watch TV directly on front of it. Contrast is very good but again not OLED level also not an issue cos it delivers really contrastfull,bright and accuratly saturated images.
I would like to buy a 85" for my cave, so watching TV is frontal and dark room. What is the best technology (and TV) I can get with a budget?
hi, i am eyeing on Samsung QN900D 85inch, LG C4 83inch, or bravia 9 85inch. Viewing distance is about 10f away from the TV, the largest TV that i can fit is 85inch. I am not a gamer and we are watching movie and daily TV programme. Which one would you recommend for my setting?
Great Video-- but I still need some help deciding? I have a den in my condo with no direct lighting sources that can't be eliminated. My TV will be 7.5 feet from my farthest viewing area--directly in front of the screen. I do no play video games--but I like movies and sports. I may be able to fit a 65" TV in the space--but 55" is more likely the correct size for the area. I was leaning towards the LG OLED B4 model but you intrigued me with the choice of the TCL QM8 mini-LED choice. Am I splitting hairs here or do I save some money and buy the TCL. BTW I am replacing a Vizio 50" 2007 LCD model. Love to hear your thoughts--Bill
I love your dedication to the channel and us ❤.
Sony - 75" class BRAVIA 7 Mini LED QLED 4K UHD Smart Google TV (2024)
What is your opinion? Not gaming at all. Watch a lot of Nascar, College football, MLB, Fubo television, shows, and Netflix/Prime movies. Currently priced at $1799 in October 2024.
I also Liked and Subscribed. Thank you so much for your amazing presentation.
Finally something I understand. Thank you sir!! Bravo 🎉
Amazing video well explained
Im looking for a 65 inch tv My budget for tv is £1000
At the moment in uk im getting a 65qn85d for £1087 (with work discount) and 65u7n for £899
Im not a gamer
I watch sports and tv series and the odd movie here and there
Which one would you recommend
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It's either OLED or LCD (with some type of backlight), commercial use has Micro LED.
Just the video I needed
You know your stuff..very well..
You failed to mention that OLEDs in ANY form or technology CAN'T SUSTAIN the brightness for a long time and the degrade more rapidly than LCD/LED TVs. Also, even the bright LG pales in a bright room environment , that IS the most common TV environment around the world
How bright of a room is bright? Are we talking just your normal ambient light from windows with the curtains closed or wide open windows and every available light turned on? I would think it's a relative term. For example, I live in a 2bdrm apt and my current old TV sits across from a big glass west facing sliding door to my balcony that has dark curtains that stay closed pretty much 24/7. Just opening them slightly creates a glare that's annoying. The only light entering the space is from light bleed around those curtains and ambient light from other parts of the apt; kitchen, bathroom, and bedroom windows that have closed vertical blinds.
Non oled fans fail to mention rtings testing recent oleds and leds that a lot of the leds were failing at the same rate just not to burn-in
@@droidattack2888 The edge lighted TVs are the most common to fail, or those that are always driven hard at max brightness. My experience in TV stations favors LCD TV for their durability and less processing to protect organic compounds that by nature degrades. Having gone through CRTs, PLASMAs and OLEDs, my preference and recommendations are still good LCDs. That could change if Microleds ever make it to the common public.
My lgc1 77 is still the same. By the time it dies, I will already have money to buy another one. Too much worry.
@@droidattack2888 I have 4 TVs in my house, an old Samsung 32' with CCFL tubes for backlight, a 40 "Samsung with LED backlight, a Panasonic 55" LED set with 360 backlight Comtrol and the main TV is a 75" Sony also with LED full array backlight. The older Samsung was the first Samsung sold in the USA with an ATSC-1 tuner. All are running as new, and I calibrated them. I have had experience with TVs since the late '40s as a rf Engineer and had experienced a lot of burn in since then. The first LCD TVs had a problem with the color filters that degraded with UV light from the backlight and the surrounding fluorescent lights. Manufactures solved this problem immediately. We use LCDs in our TV studios and production all around and OLEDs only for color grading under light-controlled venues. When someone ask me for advice on a TV, I ALWAYS ASK for their viewing environment and the majority of them aren't favorable for OLEDs, no matter what "experts" say.
FOMO what s the better choise 83 INCHES LG G3 OR 77 INCHES LG G4 ?
I bought an LG C1 on a deal when the C2 came out
I'm yet to see a significant enough change to make it worth upgrading from my C1.
I shall have to see what the G5 offers and its price, or maybe weight for a Black Friday sale on the G5 next year
I have a 77 Sony A80J and I'm very happy with it!!!!! I stream Netflix,prime,etc. I also watch movies on blu ray and 4k blu rays!!! If I upgrade it will probably be a QD OLED 83 inch whenever they come out with it!!!! I wonder if the QD OLED is worth the upgrade????????
Recently bought TCL X955 after owning 3 OLED TVs earlier, 77” C1 being the last.
Do I prefer the inky black from OLED, of course. But with the contrast control and size of the mini leds, easy choice.
Now with 98” I would probably need a 100+
OLED to make the next switch.
Very helpful thank you
Good stuff, thanks. The spreadsheet you put together in previous years helped me a ton btw. I will say that I think the Frame looks great in a bright room. Not sure what it is, but looks better than a Edge-lit has any right to. Maybe it's the help of the Matte screen destroying all reflections too. Some of the art that they have on there though def. suffers from the lack of true black. Looks more grey than anything else.
Damn! This is a great informational video!
What type of TV should I get to use as a monitor for a Mac Mini?
Which is the best one for a very bright room?
I'm a really happy S95C owner. Wouldn't trade it in for any LCD in the world. Any. I'd rather have a significantly smaller screen.
Great video!
Motion blur and Ghosting is mini led TV's greatest flaw.without a doubt OLED close to instant pixel response blows mini led out of the water when it comes to gaming
Look at the new Bravia, not a big issue anymore at all. OLED is old and flawed tech that doesn't get bright enough and has bad longevity with inevitable burn in issues sooner or later.
Oled has burn in
If you're really serious about gaming, you're not using a hdtv.
@@kenpe1455 How long are you keeping your TVs?
@@mikeydurden very long, 10 - 15 years
Can you tell me the difference between the Hisense QD7 & U7N? Thanks man. Love your videos. 🙏🏾💜🤙🏾
QD7 is -- QLED . U7N is mini led !
Mini led r way better . Usually 4X local dimming zones ! QD7 still good tho . It’s good entry mid range QLED .
For example Sony X90L is -- QLED . Sony X93L n X95L r mini LED . Then SONY X85K(matted screen ) , X80K r -- old tech direct LED . No local dimming , kinda like premium version of Hisense Roku entry . Not even the Roku with QLED(still glossy ) .
QD7 is innsane value . It’s d best thing for lowest cost . But U7K is much advanced , brighter , higher local dimming , better speakers (🔊 with sub woofer ?
U7N U8K U8N has high end chip -- can do 4k “^7^ 144hz 🖥️ pc Gamming . Console 120hz plug in n play.
I assume QLED qd7 is has lesser HZ.
Just fine toning also ULED line has 18 feet high sensitivity Voice command sensor Z u can talk to TV 📺 talk to tv remote . It can search “👀…. Show “ u don’t have to type it out on key board or SHOUT at the TV for voice commands . U can tell tv to shut off etc . Lots perks.
Excellent video. Thank you.
I am trying to decide between 65 and 77 inch tvs, for sports and movies! Future proof, so it will last a long time
??? Sony - 75" class BRAVIA 7 Mini LED QLED 4K UHD Smart Google TV (2024) ???
looking for a good picture quality. with a budget in mind upto 60 inches. what do you recommend with Black Friday deals
Great video🎉
Please, help me choose! LG - 65" Class G4 Series OLED evo 4K UHD Smart webOS TV (2024) OR Samsung - 65” Class QN900D Series Neo QLED 8K Smart Tizen TV (2024)
Need to decide what is best for a darker room on a budget
are the S90D's safe to get yet? are they all QD-OLEDs now? i was in bestbuy today. and the display model was the same super thin frame as the S95B i have. i thought they upgraded the frame back on the S90C even? is there a model number to look for? please assist. wth is the S85D? is that all W-OLED's? are S90D all QD-OLED in USA?
What are your thoughts on a LG 86 in. QNED Mini-LED 90T-Series 120Hz 4K HDR Smart TV with webOS 24 86QNED90TUA? This is an LED correct? It's list price is $3299.00 and for black Friday sale I can pick it up for $1799.00. You didn't mention what the pros & cons were for QNED... Thx
I am looking for a 100”to 120” tv I have looked at the Hisense U LED U8 Mini-LED versus the TCL Q LED ULTRA Q M8 QD Mini LED ULTRA so which is the best tv for shortness and color
I own a Sony A9G OLED master series 77’’ and now I’m enjoying the PS5 pro. However, the A9G doesn’t support HDMI 2.1or VRR. What should I get instead?
Nice video FOMO with helpful info. Interesting that you say you would put the G4's and S95D's brightness up there with the Bravia 9. You should know since you've compared with the reference monitor 😃. Lots of folks still balk at OLED"s lack of full screen brightness compared to MiniLEDs and lower peak brightness (~1500nits OLED vs ~3000nits+ for MiniLeds). Are you saying that real world watching, the difference isn't that great?
Correct - full screen brightness (100% stimulus white) of the Bravia 9 is brighter but that does not exist in real content. The Bravia 9 is bright and arguably among the brightest on window stimulus tests but in real content the G4 and S95D match it scene for scene (65" size of course). ALSO, please remember that firmware updates may improve B9 performance or worsen OLED performance so things may change in 3 mnonths!
What about retro gamers? I am in the market for a new 4k TV, but I worry a lot of the games I will play will have static bezels/borders which could burn in on an OLED. How much of a concern is this in 2024/2025? I know all OLEDs will eventually degradate over time and burn in used to be a bigger issue, but is this something I should worry about (say if I plan to keep my TV for the next 8 years, which is how old my current TV is now).
People's that leave comments like I watch the new, sports, and its on in the back round, or my room is very bright. Just get a mini led but in no way are you actually trying to watch tv the best way possible. Local dimming zones and bright rooms will never have the best hdr picture. Whats to argue about and be confused about. I never get that depth that oled and qd oled give me.
According to the secret Sony service menu I've got over 25,000 hours on my X95K. It was a best buy open box so I guess it ran 24/7 but I've been using it heavily for over a year now with zero issue and for $800 I'm not complaining. An LCD made with quality capacitors in the power supply is going to give you your money's worth no doubt about it.
Never had OLED or Mini-LED. Would love an OLED 1st, but watch A LOT of sports with scoreboards/banners and worry about burn in, which would likely piss me off. Hate to drop OLED, but seems I’m headed to 75” Bravia7 or wait to see if Bravia9 price drops? Have had Samsungs for 20 yrs., wanting to try Sony.
Sony is the buy it once, cry once TV -> very reliable, lots of control and features. Once I switched to Sony, never had a reason to look at other brands for extra quality. Only reason one would not choose Sony is economics (price). Correction: Samsung's S95D anti glare has got me thinking I need that! Too bad it can't handle Dolby Vision.
@clauzone03 ... Thanks for the input. I'm now down to Bravia 7 or TCL QM8, I think. Bravia was at 2200, QM8 was 1500... but missed those Labor Day prices due to indecision 🥵. QM8 gets a lot of + reviews, not sure I'm even critical enough to worry. I just put a 43" TCL Q6 in a home gym and it's better than my 2017 Samsung 65", for sure. But, Sony processing rep keeps me high there, too.
I bought 65 inches Panasonic Mini Led MX950K last year December 2023. The picture quality is great. Never regret 👍
Any update yet? 10/31/24
Sony - 75" class BRAVIA 7 Mini LED QLED 4K UHD Smart Google TV (2024) is on my current watchlist at $1799
@t.k.morris ...I ended up buying the 75" TCL QM8 (QM851 of 2024). Dropped from $1900 to 1500 to 1326 on one of the Amazo n Prime Days the 1st week of Oct. and BestBuy matched. The Bravia7 was $2000+. The QM8 works great, especially with 4k sports. Reading too much technical opinions ruins me...I don't notice ANY of the picture quality issues like "blooming" or "black levels"... it's all fine to me. I watch "the movie", not the"black level" (which BTW, is xlnt, lol).
I am looking for a 100”to 120” tv I have looked at the Hisense U LED U8 Mini-LED versus the TCL Q LED ULTRA Q M8 QD Mini LED ULTRA so which is the best tv for shortness and color 2:03