Why Did this Teacher React Strangely to Her Student's Murder?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 พ.ค. 2023
- Soham, Cambridgeshire, England. A sleepy little town in the country with a tight-knit community. But those community bonds would be stretched to the limit when in August, 2002, two ten-year-old-girls would go missing somewhere in the area.
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He accidentally choked both of them, accidentally burned evidence, accidentally going to jail for life
Accidentally gets repeatedly assaulted in prison 🥳
People are so evil, the devils spawn 😢
@@katiePetsy hats good news 🎉
He's not "going" anywhere. He's been in jail this whole time
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You're a smartest 🍪
I have a brother-in-law who was convicted of statutory rape of a 14 year old girl. His wife had invited young neighbor girls over to visit and had pictures of them in their living room . It disgusted me. Consequently, I absolutely refused to let our girls ever go over there with us or without us. My darling husband said he would never, ever allow his brother near our girls. Well t he family protected the pedophile and we were outcasts. We did the right thing. We protected our children. My husband's sister did not. Her daughter, our only niece, was groomed and preyed upon by the pedophile and molested. Once again, my husband's family closed ranks and protected the criminal. This sad story is in a lot of families. That's why so many children are still abused and robbed of their innocence. Cowardly families sheltering pedophiles. Despicable. Protect your children, expose these animals. Our children are depending on it. Nurse Carolyn
Something similar in my step mother's family. Her daughter said her father molested her when she was young (there had been accusations by some neighbors as well) I believed my step sister . Her grandmother , however, blamed her granddaughter for speaking out ! This old fool didn't want the "fuss and trouble in the family".
You folks did right by your children.
Awful. I'm glad you and your husband were in agreement on this. And you're right: people who defend the abuser or just look the other way make it easy for creeps to have multiple victims.
Does calling police on him YOURSELF HURTS?
@@XianMMD they said he's convicted so I presume the police were called in some capacity 🤷🏻♀️
God bless you all, keep pedophiles away from all these angels, the mental injuries are devastating when it happens to them.
If this guy gets out at 68 years old.. don't for a micro second think that he'll be too weak or too old to cause damage. People like this NEVER change. !
Andrew Watson was 79 years old when he murdered his former girlfriend Lise Fredette in Canada 2014.
For a country that has the White Tower of London and the devices like the scavengers daughter; it's bizarre to see GB getting out such light sentences. It's cruel & unusual for their citizenry.
He’ll be broken by prison by then-if he’s allowed to live that long. Somehow, I doubt he’ll make it…
East chicago indiana a 72 year old reoffended and raped a 12? Year old just a couple years back.
As a father myself, this story brought me to tears...
Stay in your kids business, there's true evil out in the world.
Exactly, they may not appreciate it at first but they'll understand and thank you someday.
@@Qbgarden they won't appreciate it, at least until they have kids of their own, but this isn't the world we grew up in and if that means if have to be all up in their business i guess that's where i'll be. Make sure though that they truly understand the difference of you trusting them and not trusting the rest of the world.
They may not like it now but eventually they’ll appreciate what you were doing after they have kids of their own, these children should’ve grown up but they didn’t get that chance, and I hope to god no other child has to deal with this in some dystopian future, but we all know that’s sadly not ever going to be the case. There will always be monsters ready to do terrible things
While respecting boundaries is important, it doesn't apply if their life or safety are at risk
@@marytramp5678sadly, it's a daily battle with some kids under 18. They think we are strangling them and their freedom. I have this very thing with my 16yo daughter. And she knows that I've seen some terrible things through my previous line of work, too. They just can't comprehend that there are some very bad people who won't think twice about hurting them.
Ian Huntley said "the girls asked about if his Girlfriend got the teaching position at school" But one of the girls had already given her a card saying they were sorry she didn't get it. The signs always pointed right to him.
I was super confused on how they didn’t catch that. Clear proof he’s lying.
I caught that too.
I wondered this, too. Wish they would’ve touched on that
Good catch.
Exactly what I said
I was in a bar with friends on the day they announced the girls' bodies had been found. There was a big TV in the corner. The whole bar went quiet, everyone was glued to the news. Up to then, people were so hopeful they would turn up alive. One of the saddest days i can remember.
i was on a bus when someone who had a radio and headphones heard the news and she told everyone on the bus. the bus fell silent apart from sad and horrified gasps. it had been a lovely sunny day until that news but the atmosphere felt oppressive afterwards. terrible events.
I was on a bus too in Birmingham when I found out the news I phoned my mum to confirm, she had also heard the news and I burst out crying..
Ive ben haunted by the girls passing since the day I found out they were missing 😢😢😢
you are so fuking lucky if THAT is one of the saddest days you have had.
@@cpt191021 the gatekeeper of sad has arrived
@@juliee.7072 Right? Jeez. We’re allowed to feel how we feel. I don’t remember this event. But how sad. Those poor girls, poor families. 🥺❤️
The fact no one really followed through with his complaint about the prison system, got his throat slashed with a razor, and tried to overdose but stayed alive is ✨karma✨ at it's finest.
But honestly, those poor girls didn't deserve that... How cruel and apathetic can someone be to even follow through with such a thing and bluntly lie to the media, to the cops, their parents??
The joy that it brought me hearing he's been attacked several times, had boiling water thrown on him, his throat slashed, overdosing unsuccessfully. I laughed.
Those poor sweet girls, I cannot imagine the fear they had, I hope they didn't suffer long..
My heart aches for the parents..
Yup! Me over here, audibly saying "Hahaaa, freak".
I didn’t… because this wasn’t about him… it was about the girls… and the girls aren’t coming back….
It's tragic, but you would have done the same things as Huntley if you were under the exact same conditions as him.
Everything is really just particles and fields adhering to the laws of physics, so can't blame anyone for anything in an absolute sense.
@@colinjava8447 Nonsense, stay grounded son.
@@Shavenhamster How's it nonsense, it's true unless quantum indeterminacy has a significant effect at larger scales or some sort of backwards time causation makes free will a real thing, but I'm skeptical about both of those.
This is the most horrific case I've ever heard. These two little girls were dropping off a card and ended up murdered. Such pure intentions of the little girls. These two people sicken me and I cannot believe that the woman is free. She shouldn't be free.
@UKPP2_ROBRANTZ There is nothing in Google?
It sadly is a trend for women involved in these kinds of things to either go free entirely or be punished with extremely low sentencing.
I have watched a lot of reports on horrible crimes like these. and pretty much every time a woman is involved, the court punishes the man as the main perpetrator and either let the woman go free or punish her with 1-2 years in prison. Even when it is obvious that she was just as much involved as he was.
Are you new to real crime? There're much more brutal cases, full of days of torture and mutilations, this here is a regular grape murder.
I was in Hollway when she was ,she was kept with all the high risk people,,I worked in the gardens and had to clean around the outside of cells ,would see her all.the time ,her cell was covered every peice of wall with cards from sick people feeling sorry for her and a big painting of the girls with angel wings on her window it made me sick , a women I shared a dorm with worked on her wing brought back some coffee one day from maxine Carr I wasn't touching that !!
Edit...that card was centre in her cell , how she was allowed it is beyond me , be we couldnt get near her as even her exercise yard has huge metal gates around it inside the prison ,but u couldnt miss her !
They weren’t dropping off a card they were merely on a walk. She had been given the card from Holly at the end of the term not on the day the girls were taken.
Yep Carr was released and relocated, disgusting, she knew what he did and was helping him to cover it up. She's moved around a bit, keep your eye on the staff in your local supermarket, she's been recognised before now. How did she deserve a fresh start when Holly and Jessica didnt even get one in the first place? The British public will always remember them.❤️
She probably moved to some other country.
@@Atlargein Hopefully not Ireland.
She is now married with children 😮
@@georgia8592 source?
And she most likely lured the girls for him.
This is why I’m not taking any chances. If you’re a parent. Get your kids AppleWatch put trackers in the backpack, put strong perfume on them so dogs can find them. Always have security cameras.
You cannot be too careful
I think it's amazing how much the community came together for these girls... rest well, angels
I live in Soham. It doesn't feel like twenty years have already passed. What happened to Holly and Jessica is still raw even for some people who are not related to them. This obviously was a huge shock to the community. 💔
I'll bet it is still so raw and completely unforgettable and unforgivable.. I lived in Waterbeach a few years before and it was so incomprehensible that such a beautiful peaceful place as Soham could end up being the scene for such a horrific crime.
My condolences to these poor parents and families, and to the wider community also, who as you clearly illustrate, will never recover from this abhorrent crime.
My thoughts exactly, doesn't feel like 20 years, a few at the most. Was soo sad when it happened and watching this video brought those same feelings back as if it just happened. Can't even start to comprehend what both families are feeling to this day. You can never get over something as horrific as this.
Hope the murderer suffers till his last day and i pray he lives a long life to suffer for as long as possible. And what he will face in the here after will be something he can't imagine- that torture and suffering will be eternal.
I can relate. I lived in a small town in the US. One day i came home and my neighbor told me there had been a triple murder just down the street, 3 young people. I swear, the entire atmoshere changed in that town, it was like some psychic stain. Heaviness.
I planted alot of bright , happy sunflowers in the front yard that summer. It helped.
I was on holiday in Spain when news broke out on sky news that the 2 beautiful girls were missing. After returning back home to the UK after my holiday, was when it was all over the news that sadly, bodies had been found. I’m from Warwickshire, never met or knew those 2 beautiful girls, but it completely ripped my heart out.
The following year I gave birth to my own beautiful girl. We’ve just celebrated her 20th birthday. I’m so fortunate to have my daughter, my heart breaks for Jessica and Holly and both of their parents. No parent should ever have to go through the pain and heartache of loosing their child. No child should ever have to go through pain and fear like those 2 angels did. May their beautiful souls rest in eternal peace. God be with and bless you all ❤️
Seems like every small town has a horror they’d rather forget. I’m from a smaller mountain town and our horror story is a mother and daughter that murdered the grandmother and stuffed her in the basement and continued to live in the home for weeks. I went to school with the daughter. It just so bizarre to wrap one’s head around it
I think calling them "calculated liars" is giving them to much intellectual credit.
Yeah I think lying is their default setting
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@@Poeticfloetic honestly why are you picking at people's spelling? On a video like this who cares about everything being spelt completely right? Get a life.
@@Poeticfloetic 🍪
The school didn't check on either person's credentials?!! Incredible!
If they did that schools would have NO employees.
If he accidentally killed the girls, then the prisoners accidentally poured boiling water on him, and accidentally sliced his neck.
Spent their days together, now they’re buried right by each other. That part really broke me 😞 RIP to these beautiful girls. And may that monster continue to suffer in prison!
I was already on the verge of tears but at that point, I broke down in streams down my face
I didn't like the part where they died together.
Looks like she killed them to me and he was covering for her. His confession wasnt right. And she laughed when she got off. Probably couldnt believe she got him to actually do it for her. Why would he even be talking to them? They would go wherever she told them to... They trusted her.
The other prisoners should "react". But I agree... the girlfriend was knowledgeable of the crime and should have gotten the same amout of jail time 😢
@@trumpisthemessiah7017 That doesn't make any sense since she was confirmed to be out of town at the time
How extremely sad. It's so touching they're buried side-by-side as forever friends.
This is truly heart-breaking.
The more stranger part of this story is what possessed the girls to leave the house unannounced? They put on matching jerseys, took a photo and left the house. Strange...
My 3 girls are well into adulthood now, but seeing these precious little girls takes me back in time. I'm so sorry. I can't imagine what their parents have endured. My deepest condolences to them. There are no words.
No matter how miserable his life is in prison, he's still alive while the two little girls are gone.
And that is why we need the DEATH penalty. In fact it needs to be installed EVERYWHERE because that's the only thing that will stop these narcissistic pieces of s***.
For now….
@Kenjiro is tired of ur sh!t But he never knew even a sliver of the happiness and closeness Holly and Jessica had together. And he never will. Just a long empty life of misery.
sad but true. A bath of prison napalm would be too good for him.
@Kenjiro is tired of ur sh!t 32
She knew his history, she clearly supports his behaviour.
she got off very lightly
@@tankthearc9875 Sadly, it's pretty common for the accomplice wife to get off lightly. Even if they directly help in the crimes, they are often viewed as victims themselves. At some point, though, these women have clearly (at least in my mind) crossed the line from victim to victimizer.
This case is just one of the reasons England needs the death penalty! Perverts like this Huntley guy need to be killed not coddled in prison for decades while their victims never again get to enjoy life! Also jail those who aid the murderer like this Maxine.
@@derkeheath5172 its odd that the wife gets off lightly though...
She was definitely an accomplice.
I remember this case so well, I was 12 and it was kind of the first time I was old enough to realise what evil was and how cruel this world can be, I remember seeing that vile man giving his interviews before he was a suspect and feeling creeped out and like there was a monster inside him. I've never forgotten their names and I never well, may you both rest warmly, gently and in peace Holly Marie Wells and Jessica Aimee Chapman.
This story was covered by the Palestinian media and it made me depressed ..just heartbreaking 😢 May Allah bless their beautiful innocent souls ❤
I can remember as well, especially the picture of them in the football shirts. Will be forever ingrained in my mind.
I remember it so well because I was 4 and a half months pregnant with my first baby. I remember panicking badly at the thought of this happening to my baby
mad respect to you for honoring those who passed instead of memorializing the killers
Glad to hear he's having a bad time in prison. Hope it continues, and that he lives a long and miserable life.
So glad he hasn't been able to take the easy way out and continues to live in misery, I was a small child at the time but remember their faces everywhere, I never knew they was killed though (I assume my parents kept that part from me being so young) and its certainly a sad outcome to learn. I hope this guy lives every day in pain and hope his fellow inmates are always aware of his crimes, for the scum that haunts prison cells, thankfully they all seemingly hate people who abuse, harm or molest children.
He will spend every day in fear for his life. Even the worst of society despise those who sexually assault children. Many of them have children of their own after all. Other inmates will consider it a badge of honor to bring him harm.
He’s always been in safety custody it’s the other people whom are in the same protective custody that are giving him a hard time
@@VonMilk appears even scum bags have a limit
Unfortunately they England let's there people get away with a smack on the. Be lucky if he's in jail for they do release murderers and child predators worst them America
I think she knew he was twisted and they both made a choice to get jobs near children so that he could have easy access. She's just as guilty as him.
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She didn't get long in jail,, she should have gone longer,,
I think you're right. She literally said to the police that she gave him an alibi because she "didn't want him to get judged for his past". Which means she was totally fine with him working as a caretaker in a school, when she knew he'd been accused multiple times of abusing children. She knew he was sick and part of me thinks she enjoyed that (with him?) somehow 🤷🤮
All of this was hard to watch but that moment at the end that showed their graves side by side broke me. Rest in peace girls.
Damn... rare to find a channel that pays so much attention to detail! The narration stands out so much. It's genuine and keeps viewers engaged in every second. Not like an essay generated through AI. Same can be said for the structure of the video, very cohesive.
Crime focused channels rarely highlight the victims let alone pay respects for them. The insights are not at all redundant like with all the other channels involving crime content (not the blessing taken from us called JCS tho)
yes i love this channel...
The end really made me shed a tear and got me thinking. They spent their lives side by side, and as morbid, terrible and terrifying as it is they died side by side, and now they are resting eternally side by side. There is very little light in cases as awful as this, but I can imagine their families may find some comfort in knowing their two girls are eternally keeping each other company on the other side. Rest easy Holly and Jessica, you two didn't deserve to leave this earth at the hands of such a cruel monster.
I can't understand why he did that .. very sad story 😢
People find comfort in holding on to ideas like they’re “keeping each other company on the other side”, and that’s just being human, but no one really knows what happens next.
@@user-gj1pq5zm4lthey never said they knew lmaoo no need to say it
@@user-gj1pq5zm4l They are in the presence of the Lord together, who is loving and merciful. They are definitely together.
"But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven" Matthew 19:14
@@Michael_AngleIt's a nice thought buddy, sometimes I wish I had belief. Who knows, maybe you're right.
I'm puzzled why his original story wasn't questioned more. He says the girls stopped by to ask him if his partner had gotten the teaching position she was after, and he told them "no". Then later, she shows a card given to her by Holly saying she's sorry she didn't get the job. Once that card came to light, it's obvious the girls were already aware of her not getting the position, and therefore wouldn't have asked him about it.
And there we have it MOTIVE.
But just to correct slightly I think they said
they were sorry she didn't get the job but
I would like confirmation WHO did.
Could have been a good luck card but reported badly.
Have you any credible evidence that's what the card said?
Because I've asked this numerous times and it seems to be that someone on TH-cam said it and I'm gullible enough to believe it and keep feeding the same story out.
I don't expect a response from you but it would be great to know if your source is stronger that YT comments.
If not then have the respect not to spread disinformation over the murder of two children.
@@Pottawattamie And there we have it, someone who is almost definitely American licking up anything on TH-cam like it's fact.
My only surprise is you avoided using red flag.
I very much respect how the video mainly focused on the girls, their families, and everyone who was affected because that’s what should be focused on in all of these type of cases
I cannot believe this is my first time hearing about this case, especially since I watch so much true crime. What a tragedy.
Me too
It is so interesting to know that you have not heard about this case. Tell us more about what you have or haven't seen. Have you seen Avatar? What about Avatar 2? Ever heard a song by Leonard Cohen. Ever tasted squid? Do you prefer white or colored walls?
I never believed his story… it wasn’t an accident, he hurt those girls horribly on purpose. He’s a sick monster.
How do you know it wasn't an accident? Were you there? So just because you never believed his story, that automatically makes him quilty?[
@@jimmyavpi no, what makes him guilty is the evidence against him, such as him admittedly being the last person seen with them and his timelines didn't match. That doesn't make him a murderer though. But upon searching his home they found that his home and carpets had been excessively cleaned, and clothes were all washed. His girlfriend and him made statements and gave interviews which did NOT go well to say the least 🤡
@@jimmyavpi I guess we've all done it - killed some children by accident and dumped their bodies in a ditch.
@S MW: oh really? What gave it away? 🙄
@@jimmyavpi way to defend a nonce you creep. He assaulted and murdered to little girls.
No child abusers etc should ever be let out of prison.
So much respect for Chris... He wasn't letting go of the investigation and proper got to the end of it. This happened when I was too young to fully understand. I see why it was a big over the news. It's sickening. I remember the news about him having a razor blade put under his cell door I believe, and I think it was done for him to take his own life. His throat was cut and I imagine it was by himself and they managed to save his life. I remember thinking 'why on earth would you want to save his life?' as it was said on the news like it was an achievement. I suppose he can't enjoy anything in life anyway - doesn't deserve enjoyment.
Condolences to the families of Holly and Jess.
Your speech at the end was very genuine and made me emotional. As a brit who remembers this clearly been all over the news its hits harder than most
RIP Holly and Jessica. This was a horrible case and I agree that Maxine is just as evil and almost as guilty as Huntley. Showing off the beautiful card that the victim gave her even as she knew what had happened to these innocent children. So glad the camera man caught her slip of the tongue. And much respect to Detective Stephenson and the entire police force for their hard work during this case.
I disagree Maxine Car was evil. She was a fool with no moral compass which is why she was released after six months. That is the problem when women get involved with evil men. They get involved in the first place because they can't discern good from bad then get led along a path. If she had been a real woman with a strong sense of morality someone or something would have told her go nowhere near this creature.
That was not the only slip, her talk about the card directly contradicted the statement her boyfriend made in the news interview that the girls asked him about the job!
You are very proud of the police that worked this case but did you know one of the officers that was involved in this case was actually arrested for child pornography during this investigation
Huntley said girls asked him if Carr did get the job,and told him to tell Carr they were sorry? And Carr stood there with a card that one of the girls wrote " sorry you did not get the job" ? So obviously Huntley lied of what the girls asked him? How come nobody noticed?
@@bronwynhughes2839 Exactly! How come police did not notice that proof?
As an ex-con, i can confirm anybody with charges relating to women or children are beaten and stolen from regularly, and in a lot of cases, daily! It really is a beautiful thing, that it brings us all together as one, no matter your race, religion, gang affiliation, political opinions, sexual orientation, etc. people will all join hands to punish societies worst! It's one of those few things we can literally all agree on, like cooking or wearing clothing.
Peace to you. Jesus said “I am the way, the truth and the life; no-one comes to God except through Me (John 14:6). Jesus wants you to to cast all your cares on Him because He cares for you (1 Peter 5:7). All life’s answers are in The Holy Bible. Jesus said a person must be born again in order to go to heaven so it is so important to make a full commitment to the Lord. Only by repenting of sin and trusting in Jesus to guide your life are you spiritually safe for all eternity.
@@spirituallysafe I don't know if you're implying we should show pedophiles kindness or if you're just posting random scripture but either way i don't approve, your type think it's all good to force your religion on others, telling them to forgive pedos to feel holier than thou, but unless you were raped as a minor or until one of your loved ones is, you really shouldn't tell people what to think or how to feel about it. You obviously don't practice what you preach or feel confident in your faith, else you wouldn't feel the need to stick your god where it doesn't belong
That fact always brings a smile to my face. Even in the toughest neighborhoods I've live in or had family in, chomos were not tolerated. If they found out someone was, that person could only hope they had a head start on running.
@@spirituallysafe🙄
@@Imakebigotsseethe My eyes look to heaven too ✝️
I was the same age as these girls when they went missing. I remember the whole country being in mourning after they were found and in shock at who had actually done this to them... These beautiful girls could have been so much and it was cruelly taken away by someone they obviously trusted. RIP Jessica and Holly 🥀
@beyondevilpodcast, WELL DONE on this video! 👏🏼👏🏼 This is one of the BEST I've seen in recent months!!
I had heard this story MANY times before, HOWEVER..... NONE of them went into such depth as to the events and evidence within the case.
Because of that.... I was in tears by the end, but then found myself outright crying 😭 when it was said the girls were buried next to each other for eternity. 😭 That is both SAD & PRECIOUS at the same time!
His girlfriend definitely had more to do with it, there’s no way she would help clean all that house without knowing what happened.
Maxine with the funny eyes 👀👀
16:28 i keep looking at this photo and to me it looks like her face is scratched up.
As someone who has gone through unspeakable abuse and tragedy after tragedy, the whole "maxine was vulnerable and shouldnt be held accountable" opinion is disgusting. Yes I am f*cked up in the head but the thought of doing anything to others in such a manner is appalling to me and absolutely wretched. This woman should be held to full accountability. No excuses.
Exactly!
Typically the more the abuse goes on, the more you want to GET OUT because of your fear and glaring reality of the danger.
For Maxine to decide to play along… during the act… and then also play along while the police WOULD HAVE HELPED Maxine - just put the nail in the coffin for her in my opinion.
Also she must have known a lot about his disgusting and evil ways well before this evil day came to be.
It seems Maxine never even reached out for help for herself - (if she ever first was abused by him)
It seems highly ODD that an abused person just simply joins in, if that was the case.
It seems like she made a conscious choice to condone the behavior - probably because she “loved and accepted” him.
I’m not saying he wasn’t abusive towards Maxine. I believe he was, as there’s no way he was not manipulative or psychologically abusive, dominating, threatening.
You don’t become a killer like this overnight, and become suddenly enlightened in evil calculations, calmly carrying them out in such a public setting.
This guy was this way for a long time, and Maxine knew it. Maxine was okay with this… enough to cover him in his “worst” of times, she was devoted.
She has covered for him many other times before… and he trusted her enough for Maxine to help.
They were both truly fucked up. This time they just both got caught.
I wish you all the healing you need
I'm fucked in the head also
Yup. These women are just as evil and are enabling when they can go to the police anonymously if they're so afraid.
I really hope you're in a better place, healing, growing and thriving. May love always prevail for you and may you never face such horror again. Sending my love. 🥺🫶🏻🫰🏻💚😞😢
Why? Just why would someone ever hurt 2 Beautiful Lil girls like that 😞
Gahh man, my heart breaks for them. Ever since having my kid I can’t watch, listen or hear anything that has to do with stories like this without crying.
There was also a fascinating “forensic botanist” who helped break this case. Her knowledge blew me away.
What an interesting and impressive job title tbh
@@Laurencita I had never heard of such a job title before this. It was mind blowing. She looked at a shoot off a broken plant on the ground and realized it was exactly (to the day the girls were murdered) since someone stepped in it. Wtf?? That’s a thing.
I remember this. It was like a piece of plant found around where the girls' bodies were discovered. I think about that often, actually. How all those tiny details in nature can come back and reveal so much about the past.
@@sfcitygirl88 Yes! So amazing!
Yes!!! Thats it. I was wondering why I knew this case forwards and backwards but it's because of the work the botanist did
Am I crazy, or shouldn’t the police have known something was wrong when Ian said the girls ASKED him if the gf had gotten the job, but then the teacher said Holly made her a condolence card, for not getting the job? WHEN did Holly have a chance to do that, when she supposedly died right after Ian told the girls that news? When he lured them inside?
Yes I noticed. Maybe he lured them inside asking if they wanted to draw a card for Carr .
I picked up on that as well
Maybe two different job positions she applied for?
English LE isn't known for their brilliant crime solving ability imo
The girls made her the card BEFORE. Ian lied about the whole interaction that the girls asked about her job promotion?
"They asked me if she had gotten the permanent teaching position at school.... i was probably the last person to see them alive" if this was the same day they went missing then why would have to ask if they already gave her a card earlier for not getting the job??
I'm so sorry for all those affected by the acts of the monsters involved.the victims, Family, friends and those who are often forgotten...the community who hurts as well. I pray for all if your healing
I was at work just a few miles down the road from where the girls were found. I remember laying beanie baby bears down by the police cordon, completely in shock that this happened in our community. Thank you for sharing their story. We will never forget Holly and Jessica 🌹🌹
The image of Holly & Jessica in their Man U tops is permanently etched into every British person's mind. Huntley will never walk free, the British public would riot if they even considered it. He's utterly dispised.
*Despised 🎓🏫
Nope I disagree then let criminals of easy the relocate them and change their names ....
@@Poeticfloetic who cares?
I agree. I remember crying when they were found. I like most of the UK was hoping and wishing they would be found alive and returned to their parents. Some cases hit a nerve with the public and we never forget them. Hindley and Brady was one of those cases. Hated till the day they died in prison.
@@Poeticfloetic Thank you for caring about our language... You didn't deserve that. Not that it was "a big deal" but let's call it like it is, shall we? 💟
Well done Officer Stevenson and thank you for your Service
Thank you for your clear voice. This video had good audio, easy to hear and understand. Good work, the new investigator who cracked the case. And broke through the lies.
nearly 21 years later this is never easy to watch.... r i p jessica and holly 😪😪
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RIP Holly and Jessica. I can never imagine how anyone would be evil enough to kill innocent children. It's actually quite satisfying to hear what Ian had to endure while in prison. Anyone who harms children deserves the pain and misery of a lifetime!
And I dont understand why we live in societies who tolerate mass murderers and child killers and give them life in prison when they deserve the Death Penalty.
Life in prison is the greater punishment!
@@dezznutz3743 We dont tolerate it. But with the amount of people that where declared innocent after a death penalty it isn't worth it.
Looks like she killed them to me and he was covering for her. His confession wasnt right. And she laughed when she got off. Probably couldnt believe she got him to actually do it for her. Why would he even be talking to them? They would go wherever she told them to... They trusted her.
@@dezznutz3743because life in prison is way more punishment than the death penalty.
Courts do get stuff wrong and an appeal can't bring someone back from the dead can it?
Places can't even agree on how to safely end someone's life these days with drug companies wanting nothing to do with it.
Big chunks of the US have the death penalty, how does that affect offending? Seems to me it's just business as usual regardless.
You need to remember, generally those who murder are either mentally ill so aren't thinking about consequences or are carefully planning therefore plan to get away with it or don't plan on surviving the incident and aim for death by cop so death penalty is irrelevant.
US has death penalty the UK doesn't remind me which country has the most shootings per capita
I've been a fan of true crime for a while and never has a case made me cry before. I send my condolences to their families. Nobody should have to go through this, parents shouldn't have to bury their kids, it should be the other way around. I hope that monster never gets out of prision
The murderer ALWAYS gets in front of these cameras
Good man for telling that woman to go back to the van, most people I imagine would want to see, I don't know if that's true actually,I would not want to see such a sight, I found my sister dead and I still have nightmares, she was missing for 4 days in Sydney summer so when I saw my sister it was something I can't actually articulate. But saving that woman from that sight was very good of him. You can't unsee what you saw.
Ok I have to say this because I keep getting people saying nice things to me and you should know that I'm ok it was over a decade ago, IV seen a few dead bodies actually because I was a herion addict at 15 and I spent 5 years in prison at age 18 so don't feel bad for me I deserve Everything I get. And no I didn't hurt people but I was very good at getting money, so yes I changed in prison and I never touched heroin again. My family life was pretty sad but also great, I just found out my mum has cancer and omg I don't want to see my mum suffer. Everyone deals with the reality of life and death I am no different and remember I was in prison in the 90s so I'm not what you think. Please stop being kind to me I don't deserve it . Peace
I'm so sorry you had to see that. I saw a man get hit and killed by a speeding car in Adelaide nearly 10 years ago. A man and his young son were walking up to have a gander at the body and I begged him not to take his child up there. It still stays with me so can only imagine what it would do to a kid.
I’m so sorry that you had to see your sister like that, I hope you’re doing well now
We were first to come across a base jumper who took a short final flight off a Tyrolean cliff face in 1992. What was left of him looked like vaguely human-shaped rubber tubing. Unpretty 😭
@@sasskvetch8617 I understand trust me
I am so sorry you saw that. I can't imagine. I went outside after an accident that happened in my babysitters front lawn. I saw a body smeared in the one window then I ran inside. I will never forget that. 3 people died.
I will never understand why this psychopath killed this two innocent kids,and his girlfriend try to cover up for him is sickening,rest well angels
This psychopath killed them because he was a, wait for it, a psychopath!!!
i love this channel because it gives credit where it's due and has a little prayer (or words of kindness and safety) for the victims.
I can't type what I'd love to do to that s.o.b but I'll say that when I was done there wouldn't be enough of his sorry body left to identify him. Those Sweet babies didn't deserve what happened to them. They'll forever be Angels and he will rot in prison where he belongs.
Two incredibly beautiful little besties, so senselessly taken from this life entirely too soon by a depraved, sick man (with his weak-minded girlfriend by his side) -- I am so glad Holly and Jessica got the justice they deserved. Here's to hoping Ian never makes it out from behind prison walls, and their faces haunt him every night.
Another job well done, Beyond Evil!! Thank you for your hard work 👏🏼
I wanna give both sets of parents a hug. I dunno what else I can say. Their loss is unimaginable and their strength is admirable. Poor girls, poor families. :(
For once, the UK finally gave a sentence to a murderer that I can say sounds pretty fair. Usually I think they’re relatively light, but I think this one is fairly appropriate. Hers, however, was ridiculously light. Here in the US, she would have been just as guilty and received almost as harsh a sentence, which I think she should have. These were her students, they adored her. And she hood what happened all that time. That’s just sick.
Oh man. I remember this case. I remember the media coverage, the hopes and fear during the days after looking for them and then the great sadness when the announcement was made that their bodies had been found.
The all the anger rightfully directed at Huntley and Carr. It sit fine with me that Huntley have been repeatedly attacked in prison. Even criminals can't stand those that do harm to children.
Just halfway thru, I am amazed that anyone would confess to seeing a victim right before their disappearance or demise, especially if they are guilty.
And say I was the last or possibly the latest person to see them alive. What a weird thing to say unless you're guilty
Sociopathic thinking.
Sociopath 100%. He was basking in his own glory. Hope that f**king worthless piece of crap gets the shit kicked out of him
Thank you for an honest and non sensational telling of Holly and Jessica. Their names are forever linked and remembered ❤
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Thank you, DCS.
I've seen a lot and I mean hundreds of these cases and this is the first one to make me cry.
The Soham case changed the vetting system forever in the UK. Anyone applying for a job in the care,teaching and associated industries that involve social involvement of all kinds require a clean past this is why we in the UK all have RCB checks done to verify our suitability. I remember the Soham murders very well and it was a tragedy for those little besties and the only positive to come out of this case was a change in UK law to limit the risk of this ever happening again. All my best wishes to the families.
I wish America took these background checks just as seriously😢
And now they allow drag shows, reading sessions etc. And perverted sex ed. Things kids need not know until they are old enough.
@@hazelhadley-britt6396 What’s that got to do with anything?
@@nicolad8822 many have been found to be predators. And they do not get the same DBS checks that teachers etc would yetschools and parents are happy to have their kids around them. Drag is about sex and is adult entertainment. Not for children.
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That DCS... he is an absolute LEGEND!! I'm glad the families have answers. RIP little angels
I find that true crime videos don't often move me, but this one did. The end has got me crying. RIP.
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I was only a year older than these girls, and I remember this time period. A lot of fear around the country for all kids. And even now, as soon as you said 'Holly and Jessica' I just got flashbacks of that time.
Didn't know it was about these girls but instantly unlocked memories.
Such a sad case, they'd be 31 this year... :(
I was 8 when this happened I was petrified of school and going outside the UK was truly shook by this
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This case hits close to home for me. When I was around this same age my best friend and her friend were walking home from church and were kidnapped. They were found in the desert, dismembered and left in a ditch. Those are the only details I remember, I don't know if the monster that did this was ever found out.
Oof that’s absolutely brutal. I’m so sorry that happened to you.
Was it in Tucson AZ?
Wtf that’s terrible
Extremely sickening
I remember seeing this case on the news as a kid. It started off with reports of missing girls, and then I remember eventually hearing that they were found dead. I was just slightly younger than these girls at the time, so it was pretty scary. It's something I would still occasionally think about afterwards, but I was too young to remember enough about it to look into what happened. Whilst I'm glad to finally learn more about the case, the details truly are horrifying.
I don’t understand how we are so tolerant of these kind of criminals, and we just put them in prison which accomplishes nothing and isn’t even really a punishment after a while. There should be extreme punishment and excruciating hard labor for criminals like this.
I think the withdrawal of freedom and exclusion from society is already strong enough.
The only fitting punishment for a murderer is the death penalty.
@@tonycowin that’s not strong enough cause there murderes, sometimes I wish people like this were punished in my country, the prison system there is hell! Not only hard labour but daily torture! So unfair that this is all he got and those girls are gone!
,@@mjt1517 I don't agree with capital punishment. It's proven not to be a deterrent and too many innocent people are locked up who would be dead. Also, it's just barbaric.
i think we should test products and medicines on criminals instead of animals. better results cause it’s the same species, and who cares if a murderer gets messed up from it? rather it be a criminal that gets acid burned by something than an innocent bunny or rat 🥺
I love how if you get busted with a joint you cant travel or enter some countries, but if you have multiple child abuse cases and all kinds of people making serious accusations.. its all good! Go traveling! Move somewhere else, no biggie🎉 what a joke
Yep. The sheer notion that some country thinks it has the right to bar me from ever setting foot on a major chunk of my planet's landmass just because I smoked the leaves of a plant really boils my piss. Almost makes me want to get busted just so I can challenge it. And, as you say, it places no such restrictions on genuinely dangerous predators. That's insane.
Tells you the type of people that make the laws.
I'm impressed UK had such clear CCTV footage 20+ years ago
Watch a couple of 1980/90s episodes of Crimewatch Uk …….we had to have them 😆
The end has me crying 37 year old tough guy, god bless the children please y’all protect the children
This remains one of the most remembered murder cases in Britain. Absolutely tragic and so sad. I took flowers to the church in Soham and wrote in the book of remembrance for them 😢 Huntley will never be freed, he's one of the most hated convicts ever. Marine Carr is still hated too, apparently she's married with a kid now, I still can't believe she knew nothing, she cleaned that house so well there was no evidence that the girls had been there!!! I hope they both rot in hell.
Those cop shows are definitely entertaining but doesn't quite go down like that in the real world . As for the teacher she probably was a really neat person or had an OCD ; I assume that due to her merely being a teacher/professional .
I can't believe that this guy actually said "He was probably the last one to see them alive" [before anyone knew they were deceased] yet didn't get arrested immediately... I guess the Sherlock Holmes days are over.
But that would seem like a fairly normal to say about someone who is at least FEARED to be dead.
@@TallSilentGuy Oh. I thought they were "feared" to be "LOST" when the "KILLER" ran his mouth to reporters. my mistake...?
Just because someone says something odd/weird, that doesn’t mean the police can just arrest them due to it! That’s exactly why, even after the police found out he didn’t have an alibi they _still_ couldn’t arrest him. It takes a lot more than that to be able to get an actual conviction and rushing any steps could’ve easily gotten him off.
@@user-zy1rj7dk6n So, what you're telling me, is if I get home to find a "loved one" deceased, [the cops already on scene] AND THE ONLY THING I KEEP REPEATING IS "I JUST GOT HOME" instead of "What the hell happened". I might get away with it ?
@@ascendantindigo271 Who said that? You clearly completely misunderstood what I said. I was explaining why they couldn’t arrest them because of what’s said; *_which is exactly what happened!_*
If you don’t understand that and don’t understand the process, even after I tried to explain it, I don’t know what to tell you!
I always wondered why they went after Carr and there seemed to be so much hate for her. I believed the story that she was, as far as she was concerned, just trying to protect her boyfriend who she believed was innocent.
But her referring to them in the past tense before they were found explains everything. It leaves me cold.
Tragic. ...made me cry .
Presented very well.
Burying them side-by-side is a sweet tribute to their friendship. I'd never have thought of doing something like that. Sad to bury two children at all, but kudos to whoever thought to do that!
The caretaker was not a stranger to them. This is yet another thing we have to think about when talking to children. We don't want to frighten children but we need a way of getting it across that unfortunately even those you know, who seem nice, could in fact turn out to be a monster 😔
Especially since 90% of child sexual assaults (all sexual assaults in fact) are perpetrated by people the victim knows, not a stranger
We have an image of a stranger jumping out of a dark alley and attacking, but in reality it's almost always a person known by the victim, family, friends, teachers, peers, colleagues etc
I assume this wrong stereotype is partly because people don't want to think about the reality of someone you know or family even being predators
@@beththegreen I think it's also because "stranger danger" was such a huge focus for a long time (it was everywhere in the media and education) that people assumed it was more common. Strangers luring kids away or being opportunistic definitely is a thing (1% is still something) and there was nothing wrong with warning people to be cautious of unfamiliar people who are trying to get you away from a safe place, but it definitely skewed people's perceptions.
These types of crimes need to have mandatory death penalties. I can't understand how the U.K. could let an individual live out their days.
My son is around the same age. I can’t imagine what those families have had to endure. May God bless them.
There’s a few discrepancies here. Not sure if it was the channel or the actual people involved. First, Huntley had said his wife wasn’t home and informed the girls she did not get a job at their school. That was the last time they were seen, right? But then the wife showed a letter from one of the girls saying sorry you didn’t get the job. So how did they write that if Huntley had just told them about it right before they went missing? That’s a pretty big red flag.
I literally JUST scrolled down to your comment as I realized the same thing. That's bizarre.
I noticed that continuity error as well; one can so easily slip up. I thought Sky had spotted it too for a moment
I was wondering the same thing and how come it wasn’t mentioned
Youre right. Thats weird. Maybe they wrote the letter right after they found out. Werent they in the house? Maybe they did it there. Thats makes this thing even more sad
I think they took the card that day to Huntley and Maxine and invited them in. He passed it to her later. 😔
Murderers interject themselves in the case they are guilty of. I guess they can't help themselves. It's a wonder that there are any humans left in the world because of how badly they treat one another.
Unbelievable story, thank you for covering it. Anything that has to do with children, does strike a nerve whether you are a parent or not (like me).
Wow good on his parents for wanting to help the victims’ families get closure on everything. Maybe it’s best unsaid what that monster did to those poor little girls. Not many cases make me cry but this one did! They were far too young to die and they did everything right, but were still at the wrong place at the wrong time 😢
It is so horrible that, for a few minutes of wicked and twisted pleasure, that people like this man, destroy beautiful and promising lives. Just sick. I cannot imagine how the parents cope with the loss of their daughters. God save us, and our children, from monsters like this.
Having them buried next to each other was so sad but also so sweet. RIP Girls
How sick does a child murderer have to be to not only kill them ,burn them,but then he pushed his way into the limelight repeatedly!
3 1/2 years and released with a new name after 6 months? Her involvement in this evil deserved a much longer sentence than that
RIP Holly and Jessica. (Thank you once again for your hard work, Beyond Evil).
"Two little Beckhams." completely incapsulates the innocence of the town.
As soon as I heard Holly's name this case flooded back to my mind.....I was glued to it when it was a thing and this just terrifying
26:55 The prosecutor said, "Whatever he initiated, it plainly went wrong." Um. Wasn't "initiating" something sexual with children wrong in the first place? That prosecutor is weird. Also, why the heck is a child rapist and murderer eligible for parole? He could still hurt people when he's 62.