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@@obligatedfool19but it was presented as a comparison of the advantages and disadvantages of each suspension type. and it was done on 3 different cars with insanely different chassis and body dynamics that they're uncomparable. stiff coilovers on a more flexible chassis could realistically feel similar to softer air suspension on a rigid chassis.
@@Martyzx_GTR which is why I said it would've been a "better" apples to apples, not that this comparison is useless. Different chassis are going to handle differently with the same suspension components, they could've put the same coils in all 3 cars and they would've handled differently.
@@blkeclipsel2400 Not really, I tried my buddys car and hes got it, most of all I just don't like the feel, plus I don't wana have to worry about some kind of failure. I got coilovers on my RX 7 and changing the height all the time can be a pain, but I still prefer the way they handle.
I adjusted the dampening on my coilovers for the 1st time today, & it changed how my car rode/handled drastically. If your platform supports it & you have the money, get yourself a quality set of coilovers. Can't go wrong with the $500-$1,000 range of offerings. 🤟🏻
For the longest time nobody liked it because it looked weird but now with new cars looking like spaceships it’s not bad. That chassis has tons of potential.
Always seeing lowering springs on already premium suspensions like magnetic. A good take would be lowering springs on good brand aftermarket like Bilstein, KYB, etc for daily use. I think that category is often overlooked.
Needs to be tested on 3 cars of the same make and model for it to be a real comparison. With your control being the car, you will notice the differences between suspension easier and not have to worry about how each completely different car handles.
depends on your car and your budget. springs are great as I've honestly never felt a worse or better ride due to lowering springs. Coilovers depend on your budget and the same applies to air as both expensive coils and air both can cost 2-5 times as much as cheap chinese ebay components (I have used good ebay coils not shitting on them)
if you can get a bk2 genesis, get that over a G37. the BK1 generation had less power and TSC/ESP that was very limiting and annoying. if you want to build your car for power, get a bk2 2.0t. If you don't care too much about big engine mods, get a bk2 3.8. the power curve of the 3.8 is very similar to the vq35 but with more torque on the high end making it a bit more fun to drive. it also sounds and looks way better(especially the R-Spec with the factory upgraded exhaust and spoiler) that being said, where I am g37s that are completely loaded are close in price with mid trim genesis coupes so if your looking for a decent daily with more creature comforts, maybe look at g37's first. I'd also recommend looking at q50's they've come down a bit in price recently making them a fairer comparison to the Genesis coupe. you can get a 2013 Q50 with the 3.7vq as well as a 48v hybrid system which will help with gas mileage if you live somewhere with high gas prices. the G37/35/Q50 probably has slightly more aftermarket support but both are very popular platforms and I don't think you'll have any trouble finding parts for either, but the Genesis might have less options hope this helped 🤷♂️
get 3 the same cars with the same driver. pretty bad comparison between the three, yes it depends on application but that’s an excuse for the argument, doesn’t answer which is better for comfort, adjustability, handling, ease of installation, compatibility with stock or other aftermarket components etc etc
As a mechanical engineer, every single experienced racing engineer will tell you the optimal setup is a stiff/rigid chassis with as soft of suspension as you can make drivable. Then you have dampening which takes way more trial and error than most people are capable of doing while not being employed to do so. You've already made your car slower if you stiffen the suspension right off the bat. Tires bouncing are not great at putting power down.
Yep on road, or circuit like nordshleife basically more travel you have = better is performance and for like 90% of car, putting coilover to lower the car reduce performance. But on track or nice flat road I am not really sure about that!
A lot of people now a days change their suspension for aesthetic reasons only though lol. Was looking at the GR 86 and thought the susp needed to be lowered but my mind was fooling me because I had a second glance and realized the tires they put on it are just too skinny looking. They're just going with them cus they're michellin pilot sport 4s so their the popular ones at the moment, but some slightly thicker (maybe a slightly less grippy) Yokohama, or falken tires would be more suited to it most likely.
@@darronpattel Which you've touched on another super important point, low profile tires and not enough sidewall will also severely hamper your ride. There is a trade off of course as I've driven old balloon tires but the trend of low profile tires on corollas from the factory is dumb.
Ok I have a question it many be self explanatory but fck it. So I’m replacing my clutch because it started to slip so before I install the new one and be completely disappointed should I consider replacing the flywheel as well????
U might as well replace them both since you're in there. If u want to make more power, then get a single mass flywheel. If u don't care for power and prefer a smoother drive, then stick with a dual mass flywheel. Also replace ur clutch master cylinder and clutch slave cylinder. I replaced all of that in my Altima and noticed a huge difference
Why she have a helmet??😒 And last two drivers could have contributed into the conversation a bit more. I would have at least said the grass is nice here ☘️
This video is about marketing. Everyone knows that bmw owners don't have that money for air or coilovers cuz they need to fix the car everytime they used the blinkers . Toyota owners used coilovers cuz is pretty affordable car and never broke lol 😆 now porches are one of the best car to handle on corners that shit doesn't need coilovers or lowered springs 🤣 just bags to flex on Everyone. 🤣
once pete butegieg decides to impliment the fix one pot hole for every new migrant we can all run coils without helper springs . i hear uganda is getting a few billions for their roads . today is BIG LEAGUE DAY priuses step OFF
@@ericdavisii3912 he is very very soft and hates automobiles , a tremendously huge trojan horse of green new dealness that we all should be fearful of .
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Nothing is better than ebay coilovers
@@ruskibruski bruh no
I feel like three identical cars with different suspension would've definitely been a better apples to apples
yea this comparison means nothing lol still fun to see
I think the whole point was to show that each type of suspension upgrade has its place
@@obligatedfool19but it was presented as a comparison of the advantages and disadvantages of each suspension type. and it was done on 3 different cars with insanely different chassis and body dynamics that they're uncomparable. stiff coilovers on a more flexible chassis could realistically feel similar to softer air suspension on a rigid chassis.
It's not necessarily true that you can still get a lot of information for comparing even if the chassis are not the same.
@@Martyzx_GTR which is why I said it would've been a "better" apples to apples, not that this comparison is useless. Different chassis are going to handle differently with the same suspension components, they could've put the same coils in all 3 cars and they would've handled differently.
You guys gotta find the same 3 cars with all 3 options to really see which it better for the price
First guy had all the fun the other two were tense drivers gotta loosen up a bit to enjoy it🤫
My vote is coilovers. The price and adjustability is nice to have
What would be cool is coilovers you could adjust from the cabin.
@@darronpattel you just described air suspension.
@@blkeclipsel2400 Not really, I tried my buddys car and hes got it, most of all I just don't like the feel, plus I don't wana have to worry about some kind of failure.
I got coilovers on my RX 7 and changing the height all the time can be a pain, but I still prefer the way they handle.
@@darronpattel all of what you just said is very fair. However adjusting the height from the cabin still sounds like you described air suspension.
@@blkeclipsel2400 So air suspension should be the only one to do that, we shouldn't have options to choose from???
Ya fuck that logic....
Bags are so versatile that it’s hard to go past them
Buddy in the Porsche is driving like a baby. Take that thing back to the parking lot. That Celica tho👌🏾
I adjusted the dampening on my coilovers for the 1st time today, & it changed how my car rode/handled drastically. If your platform supports it & you have the money, get yourself a quality set of coilovers. Can't go wrong with the $500-$1,000 range of offerings. 🤟🏻
Quality is more than $500-$1000. Not saying ALL those in that range are horrible. But they're not high quality.
@@Ye_Old_Gregg True, but they’re good enough for street/show use. I 100% agree that track usage should be $1K+.
What about Tein Flex A’s ?
@@HandlewithcareVibes I’ve heard good things about those!
The calmness while being thrown around a track to commentate....props lol
That Celica GTS is underrated
For the longest time nobody liked it because it looked weird but now with new cars looking like spaceships it’s not bad. That chassis has tons of potential.
Just bought a 7th Gen Celica! Incredible handling, and they look beautiful!
Coils hands down. That guy in the porsche barely looks like he pushed it.
This is the best video i think ya'll have had by far, this deserves so many more views, likes, whatever drives the algorithm
I been running lowering springs for a few years on my Chevy cobalt.
Just bought some advanti racing storm s1 wheels. Excited!
Always seeing lowering springs on already premium suspensions like magnetic. A good take would be lowering springs on good brand aftermarket like Bilstein, KYB, etc for daily use. I think that category is often overlooked.
Lowering springs are always a good way to go before full commit on coils! -Edgar
Needs to be tested on 3 cars of the same make and model for it to be a real comparison. With your control being the car, you will notice the differences between suspension easier and not have to worry about how each completely different car handles.
I took 4th at GTA ridgemotorsports speed summit on eibach sportline springs and stock shocks in my 2015 civic si.
Shipping’s free to hawaii ? The intro with the guy on the beach lmfao.
No they only do free shipping to the lower 48
What suspension would you get if you just had a regular daily driver?
air for sure
Probably a good set of coilovers
depends on your car and your budget. springs are great as I've honestly never felt a worse or better ride due to lowering springs. Coilovers depend on your budget and the same applies to air as both expensive coils and air both can cost 2-5 times as much as cheap chinese ebay components (I have used good ebay coils not shitting on them)
Stock. Have you ever hit a pot hole? I do daily. Coilovers are for cones in parking lots.
@@dukedepasquale3712 have you had a problem with your air suspension?
Wish these would have been on all of the same types of cars.
What is an ideal spring rate for daily driving?
Def coilibers is what I am looking for my mk7.5 but still doing research as I am looking at bilstein with front and rear H&R sway bar.
Could you guys make a G37 Vs Genesis video. I'm stuck between which one to buy
if you can get a bk2 genesis, get that over a G37. the BK1 generation had less power and TSC/ESP that was very limiting and annoying.
if you want to build your car for power, get a bk2 2.0t.
If you don't care too much about big engine mods, get a bk2 3.8. the power curve of the 3.8 is very similar to the vq35 but with more torque on the high end making it a bit more fun to drive. it also sounds and looks way better(especially the R-Spec with the factory upgraded exhaust and spoiler)
that being said, where I am g37s that are completely loaded are close in price with mid trim genesis coupes so if your looking for a decent daily with more creature comforts, maybe look at g37's first.
I'd also recommend looking at q50's they've come down a bit in price recently making them a fairer comparison to the Genesis coupe.
you can get a 2013 Q50 with the 3.7vq as well as a 48v hybrid system which will help with gas mileage if you live somewhere with high gas prices.
the G37/35/Q50 probably has slightly more aftermarket support but both are very popular platforms and I don't think you'll have any trouble finding parts for either, but the Genesis might have less options
hope this helped 🤷♂️
also I just found out they've literally already done that video lmao. th-cam.com/video/wWqKtaIS_7s/w-d-xo.html
Celica gang 🤙🤙
2ZZ 😈
Would’ve been better if you had a better brand of coilovers for comparison. Like Bilstein, JRZ, KW, etc.
Should use the same make and model with the three types with everything else equal and same.
*As well as the same driver in each car.
get 3 the same cars with the same driver. pretty bad comparison between the three, yes it depends on application but that’s an excuse for the argument, doesn’t answer which is better for comfort, adjustability, handling, ease of installation, compatibility with stock or other aftermarket components etc etc
DEFINITELY #3
Sean has a better job than me! 😀
First, what I need is a car… to put suspension on…
As a mechanical engineer, every single experienced racing engineer will tell you the optimal setup is a stiff/rigid chassis with as soft of suspension as you can make drivable. Then you have dampening which takes way more trial and error than most people are capable of doing while not being employed to do so. You've already made your car slower if you stiffen the suspension right off the bat. Tires bouncing are not great at putting power down.
Yep on road, or circuit like nordshleife basically more travel you have = better is performance and for like 90% of car, putting coilover to lower the car reduce performance. But on track or nice flat road I am not really sure about that!
A lot of people now a days change their suspension for aesthetic reasons only though lol.
Was looking at the GR 86 and thought the susp needed to be lowered but my mind was fooling me because I had a second glance and realized the tires they put on it are just too skinny looking.
They're just going with them cus they're michellin pilot sport 4s so their the popular ones at the moment, but some slightly thicker (maybe a slightly less grippy) Yokohama, or falken tires would be more suited to it most likely.
@@darronpattel Which you've touched on another super important point, low profile tires and not enough sidewall will also severely hamper your ride. There is a trade off of course as I've driven old balloon tires but the trend of low profile tires on corollas from the factory is dumb.
Ok I have a question it many be self explanatory but fck it. So I’m replacing my clutch because it started to slip so before I install the new one and be completely disappointed should I consider replacing the flywheel as well????
U might as well replace them both since you're in there. If u want to make more power, then get a single mass flywheel. If u don't care for power and prefer a smoother drive, then stick with a dual mass flywheel. Also replace ur clutch master cylinder and clutch slave cylinder. I replaced all of that in my Altima and noticed a huge difference
What I learned from this video is that I knew all of this already...
The springs I want. $300. The coils I want. $1500. Choice is simple for me.
i wanna ride in the celica
carly cute as hell, mane ngl
is it just me, or did the porche guy go a lot slower than the other guys ? and the coilover guy went the fastest
3:35
Static only
Order yours now...
Why she have a helmet??😒
And last two drivers could have contributed into the conversation a bit more.
I would have at least said the grass is nice here ☘️
anyone notice on computer screen it spelt wrong xD (service)
So You Want a Lexus IS250/350
Not a good comparison since they’re all different cars
Day 222 of asking for a "So you want a nissan juke"
This video is about marketing. Everyone knows that bmw owners don't have that money for air or coilovers cuz they need to fix the car everytime they used the blinkers . Toyota owners used coilovers cuz is pretty affordable car and never broke lol 😆 now porches are one of the best car to handle on corners that shit doesn't need coilovers or lowered springs 🤣 just bags to flex on Everyone. 🤣
These guys have no idea what they are doing.😆
562st
max peeding rods makes the best coilovers I already know that.
Garbage
Day 232 so you want a Suzuki vitara
this comparison is wack. three COMPLETELY different cars.
Damn she can’t speak or what ?
No more Sativa for her 🥸 sheesh !!!
Day 249 of asking for "So you want a VW Passat W8".
That's like saying,"Who wants herpes without a girlfriend?"
that video would get one view...
Are we just gonna look past that she’s wearing a fucking helmet
That porsche is so bad I stopped the video and I'm going to go watch animal cruelty videos just to get it out of my brain.
I'm sorry what Porsche were you looking at my guy.
Second
once pete butegieg decides to impliment the fix one pot hole for every new migrant we can all run coils without helper springs . i hear uganda is getting a few billions for their roads . today is BIG LEAGUE DAY priuses step OFF
Helper springs do nothing for the ride. They're literally there to fill the gap during unsprung weight moments.
You really have faith in that guy ?
@@ericdavisii3912 he is very very soft and hates automobiles , a tremendously huge trojan horse of green new dealness that we all should be fearful of .