When you first hear Miller talking, "father bother poured hot coffee in the parking lot" is the test phrase he used to gain access to Julie Mao's apartment voice-activation system. "bones like chalk" - Anderson Dawes describing his sister. It's literally running random things it found in Miller's brain like trying keys on a keyring to see if any of them get a response.
“It reaches out… 113 times a second. It reaches out but nothing answers, so it builds the Investigator, and the Investigator looks but he does not find, so it kills the Investigator. It kills the Investigator over and over. And then it builds the Investigator again, and again, until… it finds a door that wasn’t there before.”
It reaches out it reaches out it reaches out it reaches out - One hundred and thirteen times a second, nothing answers and it reaches out. It is not conscious, though parts of it are. There are structures within it that were once seperate organisms; aboriginal, evolved and complex. It is designed to improvise, to use what is there and then move on. Good enough is good enough, and so the artifacts are ignored or adapted. The conscious parts try to make sense of the reaching out. Try to interpret it. - Cibola Burn. The writing really makes it feel familiar and alien at the same time!
I think it's one of the outstanding strengths of the show how of how they manage to keep things escalating again and again without it getting silly. With a lot of the situations in these stories, you'd except other shows to not got through with it and have something miraculously save the day. Here, it just keeps getting worse until the end.
"Father, bother, poured hot coffee in the parking lot." - 01x02 (The Big Empty) When Miller entered Julie's apartment for the first time, he needed to recreate Julie's voice to activate her room AI. This was the line he needed to recite through his Star Helix phone/comm. "God's playing a magic trick, tick on a dog" The first part is a line from 02x05 (Home) when they're discussing how Eros broke a few laws on physics. Alex blurted out "Maybe God's tryin' to play a magic trick?" The second part was from the same episode 02x05 (Home) when Miller was on his quest inside Eros with his pet nuke he said "There's alien life in the universe, and I'm riding it, like a tick on a dog." "Bones like chalk" - 01x06 (Rock Bottom) Anderson Dawes tells Miller the story of how his sister died "But she was fragile. Her bones were like chalk from spending a lifetime in Zero-g."
@@kevinjustin7646 Deepfake means to use a false image/voice/likeness of a person to trick the viewers that the subject person said/did things they did not. Doesn't matter *how* the false image/voice/likeness is developed.
A cool little detail Ashford the belter is able to immediately rule out what kind of explosion happened on the UNN ship while characters on other ships struggle to figure it out
Original audio is low and their voices are loud so I need to up the volume to hear the show but than a scream happens. This is something you could normalize in Audacity in a minute.
YES!!! The audio for the show is suuppeeer low - even with my sound turned all the way up, I can hardly hear the dialogue :( The audio for the BW guys is much much higher than the audio for the show - so even when they’re just talking a bit exited, it hurts my ears :-/ Aaand when Eric screams excitedly (please don’t stop that .< I hope the audio issue gets fixed soon!
I am almost done with watching these. I can’t hear the audio of the scene they are reacting to but their audio is blowing out my ears. Please fix it before I gotta bail.
Yeah. I don't normally binge shows - I usually watch an episode a day if I start a series. Expanse had me doing two in no time anyways but I watched 3x7 to 3x13 on my day off with no regrets.
@@dembones5005 i forced myself to put off this show for years because I end up binging things I like. So worth it, I wouldnt have been able to handle season 3 week by week
This episode is so well done, kudos to Steven Strait for making Holden's meltdown very real. Those last 15 minutes are super intense and comes so sudden from the somber pace the episode was going, is great how they pulled it off. I see that you guys all, and especially Eric, are taking the show's hints quite well. Miller's hat is an important clue to figure it out that this whole thing is not a memory-based hallucination, and you guys cleared that up easily. Great reaction
I was disproportionately pleased with how quickly Eric realised about the hat (i.e. basically straightaway). On first viewing it didn't click for me until the second time Holden comments on it. (and the last 15 minutes are ridiculously tense and generally just brilliantly made television - i'm a jaded "internet old" fully-grown adult and I was literally bouncing in my seat like a little kid after the missile launched)
*_Remember to watch your Doors and Corners, kid, and if you dont clear the room, if you dont come in slow, the room will eat you._* Gotta love how the miller quote comes back from season 2, but with a whole new meaning in this episode.
Interlude: The Investigator - it reaches out it reaches out it reaches out it reaches out - One hundred and thirteen times a second, nothing answers and it reaches out. It is not conscious, though parts of it are. There are structures within it that were once separate organisms; aboriginal, evolved, and complex. It is designed to improvise, to use what is there and then move on. Good enough is good enough, and so the artifacts are ignored or adapted. The conscious parts try to make sense of the reaching out. Try to interpret it. One imagines an insect’s leg twitching twitching twitching. One hears a spark closing a gap, the ticking so fast it becomes a drone. Another, oblivious, reexperiences her flesh falling from her bones, the nausea and fear, and begs for death as she has for years now. Her name is Maria. It does not let her die. It does not comfort her. It is unaware of her because it is unaware. But unaware is not inactive. It finds power where it can, nestled in a bath of low radiation. Tiny struc tures, smaller than atoms, harvest the energy of the fast-moving particles that pass through it. Subatomic windmills. It eats the void and it reaches out it reaches out it reaches out. In the artifacts that are conscious, memories of vanished lives still flicker. Tissues that were changed without dying hold the moment that a boy heard his sister was leaving home. They hold multiplication tables. They hold images of sexuality and violence and beauty. They hold the memories of flesh that no longer exists. They hold metaphors: mitochondria, starfish, Hitler’s-brain-in-a-jar, hell realm. They dream. Structures that were neurons twitch and loop and burn and dream. Images and words and pain and fear, endless. An overwhelming sense of illness. An old man’s remembered voice whispering dry words that it is unaware of. Full fathom five thy father lies. Of his bones are coral made. If there had been a reply, it could end. If there had been anyone to answer, it would have come to rest like a marble at the bottom of a hill, but nothing answers. The scars know that no answer will ever come, but the reflex triggers the reflex triggers the reflex and it reaches out. It has solved a billion small puzzles already in cascades of reflex. It has no memory of having done so, except in its scars. There is only reaching out, delivering the message that its task is complete. Nothing answers, and so it cannot end. It reaches out. It is a complex mechanism for solving puzzles using what there is to be used. Those are pearls that were his eyes. And so it has the investigator. Of all the scars, there is one that came last. That is most intact. It is useful and so it is used. It builds the investigator from that template, unaware that it is doing so, and tries another way of reaching out. And something answers. Something wrong and foreign and aboriginal, but there is an answer, so over the course of years it builds the investigator again and reaches out. The investigator becomes more complex. It will not stop until it makes that final connection, and it will never make that final connection. It stretches, tries new combinations, different ways to reach out, unaware that it is doing so. Unaware that it exists. Empty, except in the insignificant parts. The insectile leg will twitch forever. The scar that wails for death will wail forever. The investigator will search forever. The low voice will mutter forever. Nothing of him doth fade but suffers a sea change Into something rich and strange. It reaches out.
@21:50 If you go back to episode 1x09 during the flashback from Julie's POV, she "sees" Miller walk into her room wearing the hat and carrying her necklace with the bird flying in front of him. In reality she never saw the hat and had no way of knowing that he'd taken her necklace out of her room on Ceres.
@@snarflcat6187 The sudden animated section @11:27 is from the first third of the original Digimon Movie ("Our War Game") in which a virus has taken control of the world's nukes and will launch them in one minute. The random scene cuts sync up to the various other B and C plots in the story whose outcomes just so happen to coincide with the timing of the A plot. If you're into Anime I'd recommend the movie Summer Wars; the director of that movie also directed Our War Game and he took the basic premise, shaved off the Digimon aspects, pushed it to a full length feature and gave us Summer Wars.
@@Phrixscreoth Wow. Thank you. I will.check out Summer Wars. I watched the first few eps of Digimon (Eng dub) but it didn't hook me. Maybe I'll wade back into that, as well.
I believe Eric is right in that Jared Harris' take on the belter accent was so popular that a lot of the other actors (like Drummer) followed and emulated it.
In Drummer’s case it was very fitting, given that she used to work for Dawes. In truth, there is supposed to be a wide range in the Belter dialects, given that the Belter people grew up on dozens of different stations all around the solar system. There is range in the accents on the show, but there is also cohesion. I think that is maybe better displayed in later seasons? Regardless, it was done very well, IMO.
@@Yora21 Agreed. It works because Dawes is so often playing to the crowd. Harris conveys that performative aspect of the character while still showing us the real Dawes underneath it. He's an amazing actor so I can't begrudge him any success but it's a pity it means he's not able to appear on 'The Expanse' as much. (and to the OP, i'm pretty sure the Belter accent comes from Nick Farmer, who created the language for the show, and Eric Armstrong the dialect coach rather than Jared Harris. It's actually got a lot in common with present day Earth creole accents in the mix of sounds/words from different areas etc.)
@@themagicman6078 Creole, noun: a mother tongue formed from the contact of two languages through an earlier pidgin stage. Example: "a Portuguese-based Creole" Lang Belta is a creole. Haitian Creole is also a creole. That does not mean that Lang Belta is in any way related to Haitian Creole.
Steven Strait was so damn fantastic in this episode. As a matter of fact, despite taking a backseat to Aghdashloo, Chatham, Jane, Tipper & Gee for essentially the entire series - at least when it came to getting praised for his performances, he really was tremendous in this entire series. Particularly this season (3), and, more specifically, for this episode and the two that bookend it.
/r/LangBelta for all your Belter creole-learning needs. There's even regular classes on the unofficial fan Discord. And it was intended to be the natural progression of having working-class folks from cultures all around the world coming together not only to speak a common work language, but also be able to sign-language in bulky spacesuits.
Reading Expanse discussion, I came across someone that said that the phrase "bother, father, caught hot coffee in a car park" is a handy sentence for determining accents since how you pronounce those words varies pretty wildly based on where you're from, in the U.S. at least. That's not exactly what Miller says in this episode or back in season one, but it makes sense as a sentence to calibrate that voice changer app he was using. I've looked for a specific source for this but googling it only leads to some linguist forums where they talk about this.
The Belter language is basically a mix of several languages that over time became its own language. It is comparable to the papiamento language spoken on some of the caribbean islands.
Look at the curvature of the Ring in the last scene, it is concave with the blue shimmer outside the curve, where before the blue shimmer was INSIDE the curve.
The fact that 100% of viewers see it wrong the first time leads me to believe they should have tried a different shot. Maybe a fast zoom out would've gotten the job done.
@@tonybomber3907 Agreed. The shot as it is is Fine, since once you know what's going on it's entirely possible to see what's going on. But without the context provided in the next episode, it really does look like the Roci hasn't gone through yet or is in some kind of inbetween space. A lot of the larger effects shots throughout the series have this issue with confusing perspective, I feel like. They make sense when broken down and studied, but are very confusing at first glance.
@@tonybomber3907 I must not have been among that 100% because I twigged to the Ring interface on my first viewing, particularly seeing that the Behemoth's torpedo was trapped by the purple field but the Roci was not.
@@LeeCarlson Yep! You're part of the 0.49% who identified on first viewing that a purple field surrounding the torpedo was responsible for it stopping short of the Roci, and used that knowledge along with the curvature of the ring to deduce the ship's position outside of normal space.
Ought I apologize? People keep telling me that I ought not to expect other people's perceptions or thought processes to be like mine, though I still tend to forget this.
Head's up: this is pure speculation because the protomolecule in the show works a bit differently than in the books. Julie saw the "Investigator" before she died; rather than Miller-as-he-was-at-the-time. After escaping his first visit to Eros, Miller starts seeing Julie and has dreams in which she says things to him that she'll eventually say to him on his second trip to Eros. I think the Show!Protomolecule experiences time differently than us, and is more like Dr. Manhattan in that regard. The protomolecule had show Julie visions of Miller and vice versa because eventually, Miller would be integrated into whatever passes as a consciousness for the protomolecule. Holden (fingers crossed) won't be consumed by the protomolecule in the future, so he can't get messages rippling backwards through his mind. So the protomolecule has to use other methods to communicate. In the book though, the protomolecule can do FTL communication, but only instantaneous, not backward through time. We saw a bit of that a couple episodes ago when Katoa knew what was going on with the rest of the protomolecule in the solar system. Miller's visions of Julie in the books are probably just hallucinations, since they don't convey any actual information that he wouldn't know.
I think it's more likely these instances are artifacts of the merged consciousnesses of Julie and Miller within the Protomolecule remembering things from each other...flashbacks that the audience isn't aware are flashbacks at the time.
The Belter creole reminded me of a Caribbean accent. Which makes sense to me, because while there are broad similarities across the (English-speaking) Caribbean, each island has its own specific accent, and that correlates nicely with the Belters having a broadly similar sound with each asteroid having its own specific accent.
Fun fact: Nick Farmer, creator of Belter creole for the show, took as its initial inspiration Haitian creole (partly because the in-universe situation is similar to the real-life Caribbean i.e. people initially from different parts of the world with different languages _and_ with other influences layered over the top, like colonialism - explicitly in the Caribbean and more implicitly in the Belt - coming together and having to communicate). So you may be seeing parallels because there literally are :).
I always forget how amazing this episode is. I saw the reaction was out and I was like "it's the second episode of the arc, I doubt it's that important." This is truly the show at its peak
Eric, you slick son of a bitch, you get so much shit right without knowing it (I won't spoil what you have nailed, obviously) and its so fun seeing all your faces light up during the truly iconic moments...like that shot of Miller in the doorway.
To clear things up, Julie is an artifact of Miller’s obsession to find her personified, she is more symbolic than anything and isn’t real, that’s just how Miller imagines her based on what he learns about her from his investigation. The Investigator is literally something Holden sees due to the Protocmolecule .
They are inside the ring.... The black space with stars in front of the rocinante is the ring. It's how the outside looks from inside the ring just like from the outside the ring portal looks colorful
The giveaway that they are inside the ring is the curve of the ring itself. The ring behind the Roci on the screen is a convex curve toward the Roci; you can only see that perspective from inside. It’s subtle, but definitive if you are good at visualizing spacial geometry.
in the book the slow zone is actually blackness all arround without stars. They added the greenish/blueish background for the TV show to show it as a distint different space so audiences wouldnt be confused and think its just some other place in space
I just noticed an error, since the Roci was able to move(it moves in later episodes until the speed limit is lowered) it was not over the speed limit when it entered but the torpedo was so the Roci should have still been moving away from the torpedo in the final shot. The only way I can explain them being at full stop is if Alex had set the ship to full stop before passing out which I find unlikely unless automated.
The Roci IS in the Ring... But the confusion is not your fault. They REALLY should have done a transition scene of the blue wave passing through the ship and each crew member, instead of that 4 seconds of black-screen. It would have taken the same amount of time and cleared up the question of where they end3d the ep.
I think they tried to emulate the visual distortions you'd get when going into a black hole. A black hole has no actual surface, but it's only an optical illusion looking from a distance. I the same way, the ring does not actually have a barrier you pass through, but is just a hole (which is better visible in the next episode). The blue barrier is also just an optical illusion when looking from the outside. But since right now they are right at the gateway, it's difficult to see from the perspective in that single shot. I think I get what they were going for, but it didn't come out looking well.
It's actually a pretty accurate depiction of what we _think_ it might look like to be just inside an event horizon (light does weird things because, y'know, so does space-time :). There're a few simulations on TH-cam. And we're not _meant_ to quite understand exactly what we're seeing IMO, they're leaving us on a slightly mysterious note (i.e. it follows the "cliff-hangar-ish ending" structure of most(/all ?) 'The Expanse' episodes). Clearing up the question isn't the point which is why the audience PoV "blacks out" when the crew does.
It reaches out, one hundred and thirteen times a second. It reaches out, but it finds nothing. So it builds the Investigator, and the Investigator looks, but he does not find. So it kills the Investigator. It kills the Investigator over and over. And then it builds the Investigator, again and again, until... ...until it finds a door that wasn't there before.
Not sure what it's like now but 'The Expanse' used to be very bad for copyright strikes (basically, there was some money grubbing third party with questionable authority to do so sending out a lot of "cease and desists"). Whenever I see a reaction with either highly obscured visuals or very low audio that's my first assumption (either they've had actual strikes or they're being super cautious to avoid them).
3:00- Aaron man……… S M D H. 😔😔 Always check those doors and corners Eric- I absolutely LOVE your appreciation of this show. 13:45- me - almost every episode. Glad you are enjoying Ashford/Drummer interactions.
Julie did speak to Miller in one of his visions. Blind guy could just be a random dude they offered a ton of money to slip in a chip. Why do you believe that he's privy to the grand scheme? The highest level of leadership doesn't always inform the average lackey of the entire plan.
You guys are missing one option with the blind camera operator - that he isn't aware of the consequences of what he's doing. He's been tasked with a very specific objective (sabotaging the ship) but that's all he knows about the greater plan.
Late seasons/book spoilers below 26:1436:08 . . . . . . . . . . 26:14 GREAT call on the human disassembly. Also recall when the kid who turned into a hydrid disassembled the nurse 36:08 also awesome call on the machine learning part too
they are inside the ring, look at the stars they are blurred like looking though a bottle. they went though but its like a reverse mirror, that's why the ring looks like it behind them.
While I love your reactions, something has to be done about the sound editing. Eric's screams, while fun, seriously disrupt my enjoyment as I frantically turn down the volume to prevent eardrum rupturing.
Please maintain even audio levels. Attention to sound is how you can tell the difference between good yt channels and great ones. Like my video production teacher in college said:" it doesn't matter if the picture looks great. If the audio sucks that's the only thing anyone will remember"
Before I knew about Cara Gee and saw some interviews; I thought English wasn't her first language. Her accent reminded me of France Nuyen who played Elaan of Troyus in TOS. Cara is so consistent with that accent and so different from her natural voice. Great acting. The CGI at the end was sort of confusing, but you'll notice the starfield looking out of the Ring is blurry and there is a different looking space inside the Ring.
unless they didn't know the UN ship was going to get blown up and they were helping thinking it was something less sinister than a plan to frame Holden.
To me, the belter accent kind of resembles some of the Caribbean accents. Which would make sense. Considering the Caribbean was populated by many groups of people. And they have their own Creoles/pidgen languages
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Happy fathers day, I only know Aaron has 3 kids, idk about the other ones 😁
When you first hear Miller talking, "father bother poured hot coffee in the parking lot" is the test phrase he used to gain access to Julie Mao's apartment voice-activation system.
"bones like chalk" - Anderson Dawes describing his sister.
It's literally running random things it found in Miller's brain like trying keys on a keyring to see if any of them get a response.
And the "Ticks on a dog" was him lamenting his one-way trip on Eros as it hurtled towards Earth.
HOW COULD CALVIN MISS THIS, WHO ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN?
“It reaches out… 113 times a second. It reaches out but nothing answers, so it builds the Investigator, and the Investigator looks but he does not find, so it kills the Investigator. It kills the Investigator over and over. And then it builds the Investigator again, and again, until… it finds a door that wasn’t there before.”
The writing for ghost Miller is fantastic from start to finish
It reaches out it reaches out it reaches out it reaches out - One hundred and thirteen times a second, nothing answers and it reaches out. It is not conscious, though parts of it are. There are structures within it that were once seperate organisms; aboriginal, evolved and complex. It is designed to improvise, to use what is there and then move on. Good enough is good enough, and so the artifacts are ignored or adapted. The conscious parts try to make sense of the reaching out. Try to interpret it.
- Cibola Burn.
The writing really makes it feel familiar and alien at the same time!
Honestly this is low-key one of the best episodes of the show. The slow build up then everything just going insane in the last 10 minutes is amazing.
I think it's one of the outstanding strengths of the show how of how they manage to keep things escalating again and again without it getting silly.
With a lot of the situations in these stories, you'd except other shows to not got through with it and have something miraculously save the day. Here, it just keeps getting worse until the end.
I think the season finale was the best. When the "risk" gives way to the "reward" it truly takes the show to its namesake "the expanse"
"Father, bother, poured hot coffee in the parking lot." - 01x02 (The Big Empty) When Miller entered Julie's apartment for the first time, he needed to recreate Julie's voice to activate her room AI. This was the line he needed to recite through his Star Helix phone/comm.
"God's playing a magic trick, tick on a dog" The first part is a line from 02x05 (Home) when they're discussing how Eros broke a few laws on physics. Alex blurted out "Maybe God's tryin' to play a magic trick?" The second part was from the same episode 02x05 (Home) when Miller was on his quest inside Eros with his pet nuke he said "There's alien life in the universe, and I'm riding it, like a tick on a dog."
"Bones like chalk" - 01x06 (Rock Bottom) Anderson Dawes tells Miller the story of how his sister died "But she was fragile. Her bones were like chalk from spending a lifetime in Zero-g."
Wow thanks I'd have never figured/remembered that
Eric's hooked......This is the best sci fi show to date imo and many other fans of the genre.......
Realistic looking deep fakes are already possible to create today, never mind 350 years into the future.
But its a 100% computer generated version of holden not a deepfake
@@kevinjustin7646 He built it using all the footage they've been recording as reference, it's not 100% cgi
@@kevinjustin7646 Deepfake means to use a false image/voice/likeness of a person to trick the viewers that the subject person said/did things they did not. Doesn't matter *how* the false image/voice/likeness is developed.
@@LordTelperion a korean research team developed a computer system that is able to recreate a voice perfectly from a few sound bites!
That shot of the Roci doing its flip and burn was so fucking sick.
A cool little detail Ashford the belter is able to immediately rule out what kind of explosion happened on the UNN ship while characters on other ships struggle to figure it out
If this posted 58 minutes aga, how is your comment 3 weeks old?
@@snarflcat6187 Early acces on Patreon.
@@snarflcat6187 patreon is 4 weeks ahead
praying that they put a limiter on the audio for season 4 so eric wont destroy my eardrums anymore when he gets excited
Pls make it happen. It's really getting annoying. Not the screaming (pls keep screaming, Eric. You do you, girl), but the audio-mix of it.
Original audio is low and their voices are loud so I need to up the volume to hear the show but than a scream happens.
This is something you could normalize in Audacity in a minute.
YES!!!
The audio for the show is suuppeeer low - even with my sound turned all the way up, I can hardly hear the dialogue :(
The audio for the BW guys is much much higher than the audio for the show - so even when they’re just talking a bit exited, it hurts my ears :-/
Aaand when Eric screams excitedly (please don’t stop that .<
I hope the audio issue gets fixed soon!
Agree. It seems extra bad this episode
I am almost done with watching these. I can’t hear the audio of the scene they are reacting to but their audio is blowing out my ears. Please fix it before I gotta bail.
The second half of Season 3 is the best. Every episode is just outstanding.
Yeah. I don't normally binge shows - I usually watch an episode a day if I start a series. Expanse had me doing two in no time anyways but I watched 3x7 to 3x13 on my day off with no regrets.
I feel like the season finale of season 3 is the peek of the show thus far
@@dembones5005 i forced myself to put off this show for years because I end up binging things I like. So worth it, I wouldnt have been able to handle season 3 week by week
The next month of the expanse is going to be the best!
This episode is so well done, kudos to Steven Strait for making Holden's meltdown very real. Those last 15 minutes are super intense and comes so sudden from the somber pace the episode was going, is great how they pulled it off. I see that you guys all, and especially Eric, are taking the show's hints quite well. Miller's hat is an important clue to figure it out that this whole thing is not a memory-based hallucination, and you guys cleared that up easily. Great reaction
I had originally forgot Miller didn't have his hat when he met the crew
I was disproportionately pleased with how quickly Eric realised about the hat (i.e. basically straightaway). On first viewing it didn't click for me until the second time Holden comments on it.
(and the last 15 minutes are ridiculously tense and generally just brilliantly made television - i'm a jaded "internet old" fully-grown adult and I was literally bouncing in my seat like a little kid after the missile launched)
*_Remember to watch your Doors and Corners, kid, and if you dont clear the room, if you dont come in slow, the room will eat you._*
Gotta love how the miller quote comes back from season 2, but with a whole new meaning in this episode.
I have a t-shirt that says “doors and corners, that’s where they get ya”
Interlude: The Investigator
- it reaches out it reaches out it reaches out it reaches out -
One hundred and thirteen times a second, nothing answers and it reaches out. It is not conscious, though parts of it are. There are structures within it that were once separate organisms; aboriginal, evolved, and complex. It is designed to improvise, to use what is there and then move on. Good enough is good enough, and so the artifacts are ignored or adapted. The conscious parts try to make sense of the reaching out. Try to interpret it.
One imagines an insect’s leg twitching twitching twitching. One hears a spark closing a gap, the ticking so fast it becomes a drone. Another, oblivious, reexperiences her flesh falling from her bones, the nausea and fear, and begs for death as she has for years now. Her name is Maria. It does not let her die. It does not comfort her. It is unaware of her because it is unaware.
But unaware is not inactive. It finds power where it can, nestled in a bath of low radiation. Tiny struc
tures, smaller than atoms, harvest the energy of the fast-moving particles that pass through it. Subatomic windmills. It eats the void and it reaches out it reaches out it reaches out.
In the artifacts that are conscious, memories of vanished lives still flicker. Tissues that were changed without dying hold the moment that a boy heard his sister was leaving home. They hold multiplication tables. They hold images of sexuality and violence and beauty. They hold the memories of flesh that no longer exists. They hold metaphors: mitochondria, starfish, Hitler’s-brain-in-a-jar, hell realm. They dream. Structures that were neurons twitch and loop and burn and dream. Images and words and pain and fear, endless. An overwhelming sense of illness. An old man’s remembered voice whispering dry words that it is unaware of. Full fathom five thy father lies. Of his bones are coral made.
If there had been a reply, it could end. If there had been anyone to answer, it would have come to rest like a marble at the bottom of a hill, but nothing answers. The scars know that no answer will ever come, but the reflex triggers the reflex triggers the reflex and it reaches out.
It has solved a billion small puzzles already in cascades of reflex. It has no memory of having done so, except in its scars. There is only reaching out, delivering the message that its task is complete. Nothing answers, and so it cannot end. It reaches out. It is a complex mechanism for solving puzzles using what there is to be used.
Those are pearls that were his eyes.
And so it has the investigator.
Of all the scars, there is one that came last. That is most intact. It is useful and so it is used. It builds the investigator from that template, unaware that it is doing so, and tries another way of reaching out. And something answers. Something wrong and foreign and aboriginal, but there is an answer, so over the course of years it builds the investigator again and reaches out. The investigator becomes more complex.
It will not stop until it makes that final connection, and it will never make that final connection. It stretches, tries new combinations, different ways to reach out, unaware that it is doing so. Unaware that it exists. Empty, except in the insignificant parts.
The insectile leg will twitch forever. The scar that wails for death will wail forever. The investigator will search forever. The low voice will mutter forever.
Nothing of him doth fade but suffers a sea change
Into something rich and strange.
It reaches out.
This is in the running for one of the best episodes of television, ever.
It really is
The entirety of season 5 competes
@@Reallyreallywho Particularly E4 and E10, which are my favorite episodes of the show and nearly as good as any episode ever put to screen.
Man, I can't believe it took them this long to watch this show because we all knew they would love it. But I'm still SO glad they did. What a ride
@21:50 If you go back to episode 1x09 during the flashback from Julie's POV, she "sees" Miller walk into her room wearing the hat and carrying her necklace with the bird flying in front of him. In reality she never saw the hat and had no way of knowing that he'd taken her necklace out of her room on Ceres.
I’m amazed that there was any doubt that The Expanse was S-tier.
This story arc is so goooood I can't wait.
Also, the random Digimon reference in the middle of the episode does my heart a lot of good lmao.
Mickey Spalaine that to a non-Digimon watcher?
@@snarflcat6187 The sudden animated section @11:27 is from the first third of the original Digimon Movie ("Our War Game") in which a virus has taken control of the world's nukes and will launch them in one minute. The random scene cuts sync up to the various other B and C plots in the story whose outcomes just so happen to coincide with the timing of the A plot. If you're into Anime I'd recommend the movie Summer Wars; the director of that movie also directed Our War Game and he took the basic premise, shaved off the Digimon aspects, pushed it to a full length feature and gave us Summer Wars.
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Wow.
Thank you.
I will.check out Summer Wars.
I watched the first few eps of Digimon (Eng dub) but it didn't hook me. Maybe I'll wade back into that, as well.
113 times a second it reaches out. Ironically, people were checking their phones 113 times a second for this episode to post. 🎉
Man I dont know how but this show just continues to be better with every episode and it started out great. Probably my favorite show I'm watching atm
I believe Eric is right in that Jared Harris' take on the belter accent was so popular that a lot of the other actors (like Drummer) followed and emulated it.
In Drummer’s case it was very fitting, given that she used to work for Dawes.
In truth, there is supposed to be a wide range in the Belter dialects, given that the Belter people grew up on dozens of different stations all around the solar system. There is range in the accents on the show, but there is also cohesion. I think that is maybe better displayed in later seasons? Regardless, it was done very well, IMO.
He really was chewing the scenery while still making it seem like a real person. Always such a joy when he was on screen.
@@Yora21 Agreed. It works because Dawes is so often playing to the crowd. Harris conveys that performative aspect of the character while still showing us the real Dawes underneath it. He's an amazing actor so I can't begrudge him any success but it's a pity it means he's not able to appear on 'The Expanse' as much.
(and to the OP, i'm pretty sure the Belter accent comes from Nick Farmer, who created the language for the show, and Eric Armstrong the dialect coach rather than Jared Harris. It's actually got a lot in common with present day Earth creole accents in the mix of sounds/words from different areas etc.)
Well the accent and language is basically creole. You just can't make the entire belter cast haitin
@@themagicman6078 Creole, noun: a mother tongue formed from the contact of two languages through an earlier pidgin stage. Example: "a Portuguese-based Creole"
Lang Belta is a creole. Haitian Creole is also a creole. That does not mean that Lang Belta is in any way related to Haitian Creole.
Miller-cules riddles are so accurate, but you have to think way outside of the box to get it.
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Holy crap, Eric. What a call on Mao.
Eric has rightfully taken the Detective title from Calvin
Yes when I first saw it I didn't figure any of that out until it was told by the show
Eric is just too fuckin smart
@@amirgunn4624 well is is kinda obvious imo
also the hat.
Julie saw Miller standing in the door right before she "died". They'd never met. She never even knew he existed at that point in time...
And she also "saw" the bird. And she died before Miller actually got to her at all for that matter.
@@bobriemersma Not dead--becoming.
Steven Strait was so damn fantastic in this episode. As a matter of fact, despite taking a backseat to Aghdashloo, Chatham, Jane, Tipper & Gee for essentially the entire series - at least when it came to getting praised for his performances, he really was tremendous in this entire series. Particularly this season (3), and, more specifically, for this episode and the two that bookend it.
I'm so glad you guys love this show! Best current show by a mile.
/r/LangBelta for all your Belter creole-learning needs. There's even regular classes on the unofficial fan Discord. And it was intended to be the natural progression of having working-class folks from cultures all around the world coming together not only to speak a common work language, but also be able to sign-language in bulky spacesuits.
Eric: " I love this show!"
Great reaction guys! This is to totally awesome!
This show is a strong candidate for best SF show of all time I genuinely believe. It's so freaking great
PLEASE noise gate the mics, eric blows out my ear-drums LOL
“Magic in this show,” well, science to be precise.
Protomolecule is still pretty much magic. It breaks science-as-we-know-it all the time and we have no clue how it works.
Funny how magical technology can look if you don't understand how it works.
@@Reedstilt "Calculus - Amoeba"
@@Reedstilt well something technologicaly beyond our comprehension would appear as magic but is still scientific
"NO! What are you, stupid?! We're doctors! Scientists! Now inject this show with some science! Delicious, magical science!"
Reading Expanse discussion, I came across someone that said that the phrase "bother, father, caught hot coffee in a car park" is a handy sentence for determining accents since how you pronounce those words varies pretty wildly based on where you're from, in the U.S. at least. That's not exactly what Miller says in this episode or back in season one, but it makes sense as a sentence to calibrate that voice changer app he was using. I've looked for a specific source for this but googling it only leads to some linguist forums where they talk about this.
"If my calculations are correct, when this baby is going through the ring, we're gonna see some serious shit."
The Belter language is basically a mix of several languages that over time became its own language. It is comparable to the papiamento language spoken on some of the caribbean islands.
The missle overshot and got caught as it turned around. Remember, the ship went in backwards.
Look at the curvature of the Ring in the last scene, it is concave with the blue shimmer outside the curve, where before the blue shimmer was INSIDE the curve.
The fact that 100% of viewers see it wrong the first time leads me to believe they should have tried a different shot. Maybe a fast zoom out would've gotten the job done.
@@tonybomber3907 Agreed. The shot as it is is Fine, since once you know what's going on it's entirely possible to see what's going on. But without the context provided in the next episode, it really does look like the Roci hasn't gone through yet or is in some kind of inbetween space. A lot of the larger effects shots throughout the series have this issue with confusing perspective, I feel like. They make sense when broken down and studied, but are very confusing at first glance.
@@tonybomber3907 I must not have been among that 100% because I twigged to the Ring interface on my first viewing, particularly seeing that the Behemoth's torpedo was trapped by the purple field but the Roci was not.
@@LeeCarlson Yep! You're part of the 0.49% who identified on first viewing that a purple field surrounding the torpedo was responsible for it stopping short of the Roci, and used that knowledge along with the curvature of the ring to deduce the ship's position outside of normal space.
Ought I apologize? People keep telling me that I ought not to expect other people's perceptions or thought processes to be like mine, though I still tend to forget this.
Head's up: this is pure speculation because the protomolecule in the show works a bit differently than in the books. Julie saw the "Investigator" before she died; rather than Miller-as-he-was-at-the-time. After escaping his first visit to Eros, Miller starts seeing Julie and has dreams in which she says things to him that she'll eventually say to him on his second trip to Eros.
I think the Show!Protomolecule experiences time differently than us, and is more like Dr. Manhattan in that regard. The protomolecule had show Julie visions of Miller and vice versa because eventually, Miller would be integrated into whatever passes as a consciousness for the protomolecule. Holden (fingers crossed) won't be consumed by the protomolecule in the future, so he can't get messages rippling backwards through his mind. So the protomolecule has to use other methods to communicate.
In the book though, the protomolecule can do FTL communication, but only instantaneous, not backward through time. We saw a bit of that a couple episodes ago when Katoa knew what was going on with the rest of the protomolecule in the solar system. Miller's visions of Julie in the books are probably just hallucinations, since they don't convey any actual information that he wouldn't know.
I think it's more likely these instances are artifacts of the merged consciousnesses of Julie and Miller within the Protomolecule remembering things from each other...flashbacks that the audience isn't aware are flashbacks at the time.
2:29 bruh you own me some earbuds. your yelling messed up my earbuds. 😂😂😂😂
Next week: "That isn't fear... that's your sharpness!"
"We stole uh chuuch"
The Belter creole reminded me of a Caribbean accent. Which makes sense to me, because while there are broad similarities across the (English-speaking) Caribbean, each island has its own specific accent, and that correlates nicely with the Belters having a broadly similar sound with each asteroid having its own specific accent.
Caribbean islander here to deliver a like on your comment.
As one of those Islanders, you are correct.
Fun fact: Nick Farmer, creator of Belter creole for the show, took as its initial inspiration Haitian creole (partly because the in-universe situation is similar to the real-life Caribbean i.e. people initially from different parts of the world with different languages _and_ with other influences layered over the top, like colonialism - explicitly in the Caribbean and more implicitly in the Belt - coming together and having to communicate).
So you may be seeing parallels because there literally are :).
Listen to an interview with Cara Gee (actress who plays Drummer) speaking in her normal voice and it's amazing how different she sounds
Man, when Eric starts playing Mass Effect this week, it's only going to make him love this show and those games even more... I can't wait.😁
Oh, is Eric doing a Mass Effect playthrough for a the channel?
@@Reedstilt Last I heard he was going to start playing it this week.
I really wanna watch the next episode but I'm just spending my time to watch with you guys.
❤️ I LOVE THIS SHOW ❤️
One of my favorite episodes!
Love the discussion after the show. There's some nice speculation and entertaining predictions.
I always forget how amazing this episode is. I saw the reaction was out and I was like "it's the second episode of the arc, I doubt it's that important." This is truly the show at its peak
Only here I don't care that much about actual reactions but about your amazing discussions afterwards!!! Such a great show!
I love watching you guys theorizing, some of you are remarkably good at it, some not so much, but the you are completely engaged:)
oh my sweet summer children
aka you are in for a hell of a ride
We just entered the Really Funky Zone!
The exit Uranus comment was top tier 🤣
I would argue bottom tier...
I would love to see maybe a reaction video with Calvin seeing this episode with Carmen since she is ahead of you guys.
It‘a great they love the show, I could never understand why we had to vote on it multiple times.
Maybe because there's more anime lovers 🥺
Eric, you slick son of a bitch, you get so much shit right without knowing it (I won't spoil what you have nailed, obviously) and its so fun seeing all your faces light up during the truly iconic moments...like that shot of Miller in the doorway.
To clear things up, Julie is an artifact of Miller’s obsession to find her personified, she is more symbolic than anything and isn’t real, that’s just how Miller imagines her based on what he learns about her from his investigation.
The Investigator is literally something Holden sees due to the Protocmolecule .
They are inside the ring.... The black space with stars in front of the rocinante is the ring. It's how the outside looks from inside the ring just like from the outside the ring portal looks colorful
The giveaway that they are inside the ring is the curve of the ring itself. The ring behind the Roci on the screen is a convex curve toward the Roci; you can only see that perspective from inside. It’s subtle, but definitive if you are good at visualizing spacial geometry.
in the book the slow zone is actually blackness all arround without stars. They added the greenish/blueish background for the TV show to show it as a distint different space so audiences wouldnt be confused and think its just some other place in space
Don't watch this with your headphones.
I just noticed an error, since the Roci was able to move(it moves in later episodes until the speed limit is lowered) it was not over the speed limit when it entered but the torpedo was so the Roci should have still been moving away from the torpedo in the final shot. The only way I can explain them being at full stop is if Alex had set the ship to full stop before passing out which I find unlikely unless automated.
The Roci IS in the Ring...
But the confusion is not your fault. They REALLY should have done a transition scene of the blue wave passing through the ship and each crew member, instead of that 4 seconds of black-screen. It would have taken the same amount of time and cleared up the question of where they end3d the ep.
I think they tried to emulate the visual distortions you'd get when going into a black hole. A black hole has no actual surface, but it's only an optical illusion looking from a distance. I the same way, the ring does not actually have a barrier you pass through, but is just a hole (which is better visible in the next episode). The blue barrier is also just an optical illusion when looking from the outside.
But since right now they are right at the gateway, it's difficult to see from the perspective in that single shot. I think I get what they were going for, but it didn't come out looking well.
It's actually a pretty accurate depiction of what we _think_ it might look like to be just inside an event horizon (light does weird things because, y'know, so does space-time :). There're a few simulations on TH-cam.
And we're not _meant_ to quite understand exactly what we're seeing IMO, they're leaving us on a slightly mysterious note (i.e. it follows the "cliff-hangar-ish ending" structure of most(/all ?) 'The Expanse' episodes). Clearing up the question isn't the point which is why the audience PoV "blacks out" when the crew does.
It reaches out, one hundred and thirteen times a second. It reaches out, but it finds nothing.
So it builds the Investigator, and the Investigator looks, but he does not find. So it kills the Investigator. It kills the Investigator over and over.
And then it builds the Investigator, again and again, until...
...until it finds a door that wasn't there before.
Just a comment to appreciate Eric's Snape impression! :D
is it just me or is the show audio really low? i can barely hear anything
It always is ☹️
Not sure what it's like now but 'The Expanse' used to be very bad for copyright strikes (basically, there was some money grubbing third party with questionable authority to do so sending out a lot of "cease and desists").
Whenever I see a reaction with either highly obscured visuals or very low audio that's my first assumption (either they've had actual strikes or they're being super cautious to avoid them).
3:00- Aaron man……… S M D H. 😔😔
Always check those doors and corners
Eric- I absolutely LOVE your appreciation of this show. 13:45- me - almost every episode. Glad you are enjoying Ashford/Drummer interactions.
Julie did speak to Miller in one of his visions.
Blind guy could just be a random dude they offered a ton of money to slip in a chip. Why do you believe that he's privy to the grand scheme? The highest level of leadership doesn't always inform the average lackey of the entire plan.
Told you one episode a week wouldn't be enough for you once you got addicted :)
I knew you guys would love this show.
We know Eric, we know. At least they ended it a few seconds after the black screen though. That'd be hell.
You guys are missing one option with the blind camera operator - that he isn't aware of the consequences of what he's doing. He's been tasked with a very specific objective (sabotaging the ship) but that's all he knows about the greater plan.
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26:14 GREAT call on the human disassembly. Also recall when the kid who turned into a hydrid disassembled the nurse
36:08 also awesome call on the machine learning part too
A ship should be able to take couple magnitudes more G's than a human body.
Belter language is real and was developed by Nick Farmer, a linguist. Cara Gee's mother was learning it.
When did Eric turn into the Yelling Guy... Volume control Sucks.
I stopped watching at that point. My eardrums felt like they were blown out
Man, Anna Hopkins is smoookin. Just... Wow.
Th8s show does space combat flight and living so damn good.
they are inside the ring, look at the stars they are blurred like looking though a bottle. they went though but its like a reverse mirror, that's why the ring looks like it behind them.
While I love your reactions, something has to be done about the sound editing. Eric's screams, while fun, seriously disrupt my enjoyment as I frantically turn down the volume to prevent eardrum rupturing.
Please maintain even audio levels. Attention to sound is how you can tell the difference between good yt channels and great ones. Like my video production teacher in college said:" it doesn't matter if the picture looks great. If the audio sucks that's the only thing anyone will remember"
Before I knew about Cara Gee and saw some interviews; I thought English wasn't her first language. Her accent reminded me of France Nuyen who played Elaan of Troyus in TOS. Cara is so consistent with that accent and so different from her natural voice. Great acting.
The CGI at the end was sort of confusing, but you'll notice the starfield looking out of the Ring is blurry and there is a different looking space inside the Ring.
This was a great reaction guys.
It reaches out it reaches out it reaches out
113 times a second it reaches out
Wow that Digimon clip gave me some life
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Neither Eric nor Aaron recognized Oliver's baby mama?
Awe, that’s where I know her from. I never connected those dots either.
unless they didn't know the UN ship was going to get blown up and they were helping thinking it was something less sinister than a plan to frame Holden.
To me, the belter accent kind of resembles some of the Caribbean accents. Which would make sense. Considering the Caribbean was populated by many groups of people. And they have their own Creoles/pidgen languages
Guys watch “12 monkeys” series! It’s seriously in my top 5 best sci-fi shows I’ve ever seen in my life
"The slow blade penetrates the shield" - Gurney Halleck (Patrick Stewart), Dune (1984).
Oh my god! You noticed the hat! SO many people don't notice the hat!"
The ship going through The Ring: Rocinaaaaaaannnnnnnteeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!
they were in the ring. Honestly though how cool is the Expanse? Science Fiction how it should be.
I don't know, I'm not too smart, but I think he just said, "It's human."
Okay I get screaming is funny but a lot of people wear headphones man and that crap hurts.
The ring near Uranus will let you in, if you take it slow and have a drop of blue goo
Remember the Cant
Doors and corners
Its not a Expanse episode unless some screams "NOOOOOO!" at the end.
Expanse writers - master class in reactor blocking.
the dnd thing ended sometime in season one, I think just after they reached tycho
@36:08 Dethklok from the corner, all net