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The comm lag between Earth and Ilus is only about 6 hours. Travel time between Earth and Ilus is about a year. Really shows how much faster light is compared to even the relatively fast spaceships of the Expanse. So you can send a message from one planet to the other and get a reply back within a day, but if, say, you're Murtry and just had a sizable portion of the people you were supposed to protect get blown up, you're a long, long way from reinforcements coming to help you.
Some people gave the fourth book a lot of flak for being slow and different in pace and tone. But for me it was a welcome respit from all the action, politics and high drama in the previous three books and I loved it... The writers also intentionally gave each book its own tone and strory telling style. Book one detective drama, book two Political war drama, book 3 action thriller, and book 4 sci fi western. The show translates this pretty well, while maintaining consistency over the seasons. The creators of the show are doing a great job of adapting this to TV...
Murtry is one of those guys like Walter White aka Heisenberg who wants people to remember his name, and Amos picked up on that right away when Murtry corrected him. It's Amos' way of making Murtry, Morty, Marty as relevant as a mosquito in his mind.
@@Damo2690 IO is the most volcanically active body in the solar system, yet doesn't seem to have tectonics either. There's different ways for planets/moons to be volcanically active, and usually it's just a release for internal heat. Bodies like Enceladus are also volcanically active, but they're so cold that there it's brimey ice and water that acts like rock and magma does here. On titan there's rain and lakes but there it's a deepfreeze version with liquid methane and not water. Europa probably has tectonics too as mentioned, but those happen in its ice shell which floats on a huge ocean instead of a crust on magma. And tectonics on europa seem to be mostly a result of the tidal squeezing and stretching by the huge gravity of Jupiter, whereas earth's tectonics seem to be completely internally driven. The solar system is full of wonders and strange sights, and every planet and even moon seems to be unique in some way. Earth is quite unique in that way with its plate tectonics. Earth is quite unique in many ways. Tectonics are probably one of the many unique factors that made a relatively stable environment, stable climate, and thus made complex life and us possible...
Felcia is like 17ish.. she wants to go to university to meet friends/lovers and live her own experiences. She's not getting that by staying with her parents in a society made of a hundred ppl.
That switch that doesn't do anything in your bathroom is likely turning your hot water tank on and off. Often used for when you plan to be away, you turn it off to save on power since you will not need hot water for a while.
Are you in Europe or some country outside of the US? Most water heaters in residential settings are on a dedicated breaker with the only ones I've seen on switches being in places like hunting camps. If he lives in an old house I'd put money on the switch that does nothing being for an old in bathroom heater, you'll see bathroom heaters with twist switches also in old homes.
@@BlackHawkBallistic Canada -- Pretty much the same electrical standards as the US. Visited my cousin 2 wks ago and he'd just moved into the house. He'd had an electrician come in the week before, thinking there was something wrong... They discovered that his wife had accidentally turned off the water heater with a switch they thought was no longer connected to anything. That's how I know it can happen! Solution, tape the damn switch in the ON position. ;-] Your scenario is also quite possible.
@@robertcartier5088 better "fix" IMO is disconnect water heater from the switch and put a cover over it lol, I wonder if the switch was a homeowner done modification so they didn't have to go to the fuse panel every time they needed to turn the water heater off.
Except for the part where he said that the protomolecule structure didn't seem to care about being hit with a missile. Right before it crumbled into a thousand pieces LOL. I was just waiting for Rick to tell Aaron "You were saying?" Just like Aaron always says to Rick when he is wrong XD
The issue with "remote learning" is that there is no "internet" between Illus and anywhere in the Sol system, and even if there were a way to transmit signals through the rings (plural) the signal would still take days to travel from one place to another. The speed of light is still a limiting factor for communication.
@@Nyx_2142, you need to read the books. The speed of light is a factor, as is whether (or not) the repeater stations at the ring interface are operational. If not it is likely to take centuries for the message to reach Sol System.
So Robin, Hughes girlfriend from The Boys instead of being blow up is now screwing with Amos on another planet, I would like to believe in this multiverse, lol.
I can't believe the episode changed the ending after Aaron said that. I remember when the episode first aired and the Belters where able to kill Murtry when he tried to arrest them. Now we're in this dark alternate timeline! Who knows what will happen?!
The thorne tower wasn't terra forming, it was cleaning the accumulated dirt off the surface of the base. It is not a planet, it is more like a giant death star. I was writing this as one of you said exactly what I was thinking, that natural impacts over 2 billion years would have coated the planet and now the machines are starting to clean the surface. The volcanic islands are the blocked power ports that probably would have got cleaned if Holden hadn't blown up the cleaning mechanism
The books do not go into what the planet does but one notable thing they said was it had more lithium than they had ever seen on a planet. My theory is the planet converts energy from the 13 moons into lithium which is harvested by the teeth.
@@danielrodrigues4903 I do not think so, the book made sure that we knew what is about to go boomy boom in show was a power generator, which is why fusion stopped working. (the proto tech stopped all fusion to prevent more booms) but the planet itself was never explained iirc.
@@danielrodrigues4903 The things I want to know are why the moon melts, that was the one real holy shit moment in the story for me cause I have a vague idea of how much energy it would take to melt an entire moon.
@@Matisaro Spoilers: . . . . . The moons are a planetary defence system with "enough power to shoot down moons." The exact how isn't explained, but I assume it used a laser to obliterate the light shuttle, and the heat build-up from the energy expended (the system deteriorated over time?) resulted in the moon/weapon melting down. Also in the book the moons try to shoot down a railgun slug fired by the Roci... which is moving at an absurd speed. The moons are nothing to sneeze at.
I feel obligated to point out that Murtry literally hasn't done anything terribly wrong so far. It's a frontier planet with no current government to serve as judge or jury and he's the head of security for RCE, a company who have legal rights to be on Ilus/New Terra from the Earth-Mars-OPA alliance (whereas the Belters illegally ran a blockade and settled without any real claim) and over twenty of their people sent on a scientific mission that he was in charge of protecting were murdered before they even landed. And then he literally caught more of them planning another attack on a tapped comm. He's being brutal, certainly, but Belters did commit mass murder against innocent Earthers that were there with a legal charter to conduct scientific research. So far, Murtry has literally only killed people that either threatened him or other people whose safety is his job and priority. The Belters literally started the violence! There probably isn't anywhere to hold a large amount of prisoners on the planet really... especially with the power outages and such. He's being a hardass and kind of a jerk, but he isn't necessarily wrong. 🤷♂️
He’s basically a rent a cop from UN and committing acts that are illegal in the place he is representing. The UN would not condone his actions, which is why he ordered that communications be cut off. He didn’t even try to run through his options, like for instance Holden would, and save execution as a last resort. It’s his first instinct, because he’s a psychopath.
It's so weird to me that Rick asked if you could turn these incredibly valuable strategic assests (the tightbeamies) into weapons. No weapons (maaaybe nuclear warheads) could create an advantage as important as being able to listen in on encrypted comms.
This was my least favorite season along with season 1, but it’s still good. It’s a set up for great things to come but there’s still really well written character arcs and moments as well as cool designs and ideas. Season 5 was hard to watch because of what happens to certain characters but really really well written and acted. 👍🏼
It was kinda aggravating when you guys didnt clue in to the gentrification parallels of mars and the belt being culturally decimated by the discovery of the ring space.
It has been a few years since I watched season 4, and I remembered a lot fewer plot points for this season than I did for S2 and S3, but this realisation, what the ring means for the dreams of mars and the belt, really stuck with me.
The belters are not allowed to be there, she can not go to school because they are worried that she would not be able to come back among other things btw.
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@@Matisaro So sorry to ruin this for you friend… whatever happened to the obvious body mutations that seemingly all Belters had at the beginning of the series including Miller? Also Naomi’s character and choices do not resemble any growth….
@@24fryguy a troll could not ruin great Sci fi with bad observations. 1. The show never leaned into the skinny depictions of the books as super tall lanky actors are kind if rare. They showed 1 in the first episode for the book readers. 2. I can explain Naomi's growth to you but I can't understand it for you. She started she show cut off from everyone everyone and alone to being a vital member of the family. Sorry you missed it. Won't be responding to obvious troll is obvious anymore. Have a nice life.
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Yup not a normal planet. Just dirt on top of a space station I always pictured it….
The comm lag between Earth and Ilus is only about 6 hours. Travel time between Earth and Ilus is about a year. Really shows how much faster light is compared to even the relatively fast spaceships of the Expanse. So you can send a message from one planet to the other and get a reply back within a day, but if, say, you're Murtry and just had a sizable portion of the people you were supposed to protect get blown up, you're a long, long way from reinforcements coming to help you.
It's crazy how a lot of this season is just set up, but the characters and writing is so good, i don't even care
You hit the nail on the head
Some people gave the fourth book a lot of flak for being slow and different in pace and tone. But for me it was a welcome respit from all the action, politics and high drama in the previous three books and I loved it...
The writers also intentionally gave each book its own tone and strory telling style. Book one detective drama, book two Political war drama, book 3 action thriller, and book 4 sci fi western. The show translates this pretty well, while maintaining consistency over the seasons. The creators of the show are doing a great job of adapting this to TV...
Murtry is one of those guys like Walter White aka Heisenberg who wants people to remember his name, and Amos picked up on that right away when Murtry corrected him. It's Amos' way of making Murtry, Morty, Marty as relevant as a mosquito in his mind.
Earth appears to be unique in the Solar System in having plate tectonics so not having plate tectonics doesn't automatically mean artificial.
Case in point, Venus doesn't have plate tectonics.
There's a lot of evidence to suggest Europa also has plate tectonics.
@@prophetofgreed that's interesting, because it is very volcanicly active, unlike Mars
@@Damo2690 IO is the most volcanically active body in the solar system, yet doesn't seem to have tectonics either. There's different ways for planets/moons to be volcanically active, and usually it's just a release for internal heat. Bodies like Enceladus are also volcanically active, but they're so cold that there it's brimey ice and water that acts like rock and magma does here. On titan there's rain and lakes but there it's a deepfreeze version with liquid methane and not water. Europa probably has tectonics too as mentioned, but those happen in its ice shell which floats on a huge ocean instead of a crust on magma. And tectonics on europa seem to be mostly a result of the tidal squeezing and stretching by the huge gravity of Jupiter, whereas earth's tectonics seem to be completely internally driven.
The solar system is full of wonders and strange sights, and every planet and even moon seems to be unique in some way.
Earth is quite unique in that way with its plate tectonics. Earth is quite unique in many ways. Tectonics are probably one of the many unique factors that made a relatively stable environment, stable climate, and thus made complex life and us possible...
@@johanwittens7712 Thank you for this.
"I'm free right now" lmao you gotta love Amos
Felcia is like 17ish.. she wants to go to university to meet friends/lovers and live her own experiences. She's not getting that by staying with her parents in a society made of a hundred ppl.
The boys make some solid predictions
Damn it Aaron, you got them killed!
That switch that doesn't do anything in your bathroom is likely turning your hot water tank on and off. Often used for when you plan to be away, you turn it off to save on power since you will not need hot water for a while.
Are you in Europe or some country outside of the US? Most water heaters in residential settings are on a dedicated breaker with the only ones I've seen on switches being in places like hunting camps.
If he lives in an old house I'd put money on the switch that does nothing being for an old in bathroom heater, you'll see bathroom heaters with twist switches also in old homes.
@@BlackHawkBallistic Canada -- Pretty much the same electrical standards as the US.
Visited my cousin 2 wks ago and he'd just moved into the house. He'd had an electrician come in the week before, thinking there was something wrong... They discovered that his wife had accidentally turned off the water heater with a switch they thought was no longer connected to anything. That's how I know it can happen! Solution, tape the damn switch in the ON position. ;-]
Your scenario is also quite possible.
@@robertcartier5088 better "fix" IMO is disconnect water heater from the switch and put a cover over it lol, I wonder if the switch was a homeowner done modification so they didn't have to go to the fuse panel every time they needed to turn the water heater off.
@@BlackHawkBallistic We'll never know, my cousin didn't buy the house from the original owner. ;-]
@@BlackHawkBallistic I can not speak for all of Europe of course, but I've never seen such a switch over here.
Aaron is on fire with predictions about bad stuff happening
Except for the part where he said that the protomolecule structure didn't seem to care about being hit with a missile. Right before it crumbled into a thousand pieces LOL. I was just waiting for Rick to tell Aaron "You were saying?" Just like Aaron always says to Rick when he is wrong XD
I don't know Punisher but that guy you referenced was the pharmacist in Nurse Jackie.
Oof, the tightbeam thingies *definitely* come back. You'd be surprised.
When you flip a bunch of switches to see what happens and break every ones power.
Graboids. Wouldn’t that be a sight? Protomolecule Graboids. Things of nightmares.
The issue with "remote learning" is that there is no "internet" between Illus and anywhere in the Sol system, and even if there were a way to transmit signals through the rings (plural) the signal would still take days to travel from one place to another. The speed of light is still a limiting factor for communication.
You can basically download books and movies and send emails, but that's about it.
No it doesn't. Any signals from Illus to Earth only take 6 hours. You greatly underestimate the speed of light
@@Nyx_2142, you need to read the books. The speed of light is a factor, as is whether (or not) the repeater stations at the ring interface are operational. If not it is likely to take centuries for the message to reach Sol System.
So Robin, Hughes girlfriend from The Boys instead of being blow up is now screwing with Amos on another planet, I would like to believe in this multiverse, lol.
lol omg
14:08 she didn't say "shoot" Eric. "I don't want to kill an unarmed man." I don't think a gun would be Bobbie's style
Bobbie uses guns on targets that are enough of a threat to be bullet-worthy..
9:40 Damn it Aaron...
I can't believe the episode changed the ending after Aaron said that. I remember when the episode first aired and the Belters where able to kill Murtry when he tried to arrest them. Now we're in this dark alternate timeline! Who knows what will happen?!
@@Reedstilt Who knows where we go from here 😉
The thorne tower wasn't terra forming, it was cleaning the accumulated dirt off the surface of the base. It is not a planet, it is more like a giant death star. I was writing this as one of you said exactly what I was thinking, that natural impacts over 2 billion years would have coated the planet and now the machines are starting to clean the surface. The volcanic islands are the blocked power ports that probably would have got cleaned if Holden hadn't blown up the cleaning mechanism
"Does this mean we're not fuckin?"
Might be my favorite dialogue exchange of the entire series
Producing one more "Random Amos Reaction Face". Seen those a couple times throughout the show so far.
The books do not go into what the planet does but one notable thing they said was it had more lithium than they had ever seen on a planet.
My theory is the planet converts energy from the 13 moons into lithium which is harvested by the teeth.
Didn't the books confirm that Ilus was a power generator? Maybe I'm mistaken but I was pretty sure they said something like that.
@@danielrodrigues4903 I do not think so, the book made sure that we knew what is about to go boomy boom in show was a power generator, which is why fusion stopped working. (the proto tech stopped all fusion to prevent more booms) but the planet itself was never explained iirc.
@@danielrodrigues4903 The things I want to know are why the moon melts, that was the one real holy shit moment in the story for me cause I have a vague idea of how much energy it would take to melt an entire moon.
@@Matisaro Yeah, I'm not too sure what it was since I read it a while ago. Currently on book 7, things have gotten so good! :D
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The moons are a planetary defence system with "enough power to shoot down moons." The exact how isn't explained, but I assume it used a laser to obliterate the light shuttle, and the heat build-up from the energy expended (the system deteriorated over time?) resulted in the moon/weapon melting down.
Also in the book the moons try to shoot down a railgun slug fired by the Roci... which is moving at an absurd speed. The moons are nothing to sneeze at.
I feel obligated to point out that Murtry literally hasn't done anything terribly wrong so far. It's a frontier planet with no current government to serve as judge or jury and he's the head of security for RCE, a company who have legal rights to be on Ilus/New Terra from the Earth-Mars-OPA alliance (whereas the Belters illegally ran a blockade and settled without any real claim) and over twenty of their people sent on a scientific mission that he was in charge of protecting were murdered before they even landed. And then he literally caught more of them planning another attack on a tapped comm. He's being brutal, certainly, but Belters did commit mass murder against innocent Earthers that were there with a legal charter to conduct scientific research. So far, Murtry has literally only killed people that either threatened him or other people whose safety is his job and priority. The Belters literally started the violence! There probably isn't anywhere to hold a large amount of prisoners on the planet really... especially with the power outages and such. He's being a hardass and kind of a jerk, but he isn't necessarily wrong. 🤷♂️
So many people ignore all of what you said because our heroes have issues with the guy. Hoped our boys would be better than that
Bullshit. He bragged about robbing belters for fun and shot a man in cold blood. Anyone who does not hate him by now is a shitty person imho.
Or an internet troll.
He’s basically a rent a cop from UN and committing acts that are illegal in the place he is representing. The UN would not condone his actions, which is why he ordered that communications be cut off. He didn’t even try to run through his options, like for instance Holden would, and save execution as a last resort. It’s his first instinct, because he’s a psychopath.
It's so weird to me that Rick asked if you could turn these incredibly valuable strategic assests (the tightbeamies) into weapons. No weapons (maaaybe nuclear warheads) could create an advantage as important as being able to listen in on encrypted comms.
amos is a demon lmfaooo 5:25
You can't do effective remote learning when communication lag time is 16 hours, each way 😲
Oldschool learning from books.
Remember the cant
Karl fooking Murtry………… awesome actor
This was my least favorite season along with season 1, but it’s still good. It’s a set up for great things to come but there’s still really well written character arcs and moments as well as cool designs and ideas. Season 5 was hard to watch because of what happens to certain characters but really really well written and acted. 👍🏼
It's almost my least favorite, though still very good.
But I think season 1 is the best.
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IMO this is the worst season of the series, Chrisjen's storyline shows this the most, but season 5 is really good.
It's the worst compared to the rest of the show, but still miles better than most TV shows
@@HenryM912 Also, as with the first season, it sets up a lot of what happens, later.
It was kinda aggravating when you guys didnt clue in to the gentrification parallels of mars and the belt being culturally decimated by the discovery of the ring space.
It has been a few years since I watched season 4, and I remembered a lot fewer plot points for this season than I did for S2 and S3, but this realisation, what the ring means for the dreams of mars and the belt, really stuck with me.
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The weakest season
LOL, hardly.
It sets up a *lot* of what happens, next.
Imagine seeing the seasons as standalone stuff instead of a continuing story. People are poisoned by modern tv formats.
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The belters are not allowed to be there, she can not go to school because they are worried that she would not be able to come back among other things btw.
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They're on vacation
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I am so over “The Expanse”. The continuity sucks!
You are obviously trolling with this silly take.
@@Matisaro no, sincerely watch the first episode and then this episode please.
@@24fryguy I have watched the series 5 times through, you have absolutely nothing in this request which justifies your comment.
@@Matisaro So sorry to ruin this for you friend… whatever happened to the obvious body mutations that seemingly all Belters had at the beginning of the series including Miller? Also Naomi’s character and choices do not resemble any growth….
@@24fryguy a troll could not ruin great Sci fi with bad observations.
1. The show never leaned into the skinny depictions of the books as super tall lanky actors are kind if rare. They showed 1 in the first episode for the book readers.
2. I can explain Naomi's growth to you but I can't understand it for you. She started she show cut off from everyone everyone and alone to being a vital member of the family.
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