So according to the authors of the Expanse the moment that Miller and Julie joined created ripples in time. Those ripples went forward and backwards in time. Which was why we see them seeing one another throughout the first and second seasons. When those two minds merged they became linked, in both the past and the future. Highly recommend the Ty and That Guy podcast explaination of the timey wimey stuff.
@@jeffb255 They literally just said, when Miller and Julie joined on Eros it sent ripples of each other throughout time. Julie seeing Miller is a ripple from that moment going back in time to her.
It's quantum entanglement babey! But for real, I really find quite touching that two people meeting only once reverberates to the past, creating that connection that leads to their meeting. It's like a sci fi explanation of "fate".
@@jonasgrant It's a lot of physical mambo-jambo stitched together to vaguely make sense. Microtubules do exist, and there are (highly speculative) ideas that they interact with some sort of "universal quantum background". The rest of that sequence seems to describe some sort of quantum phenomenon (that can indeed be non-local, see quantum entanglement for example), but also classical ways of communication ("lorentzian" refers to the lorentz factor, which describes relativistic effects like time dilation). Overall it's technobabble, but it's better technobabble than most stuff you see on Star Trek since it refers to actual ideas about how the human mind might be connected to or even a product of the the quantum world. Look up "quantum mind" if you want, but tread with caution. These are highly speculative concepts, that are far away from any scientific evidence that we could probably produce in the foreseeable future.
@@jonasgrant a timelike curve is a path through spacetime that slower than light particles (i.e. everything we know) can travel along. A closed timelike curve is one such curve that is a loop, i.e. you can travel back in time while travelling along that curve
Nobody really understands just how difficult it is for one person to plan/organize a high-society party and make all of the pieces come together exactly the right way to produce the final effect that you want.
Clarissa / Melba gives a whole new weight to the "daddy issues" trope lol, overriding existential threats and all. I absolutely loved Drummer's speech, and am glad it makes quite clear for the audience where Belter's mindset goes and comes from. The whole thing about how the protomolecule may or may not bend time in a different way is so good
Melba's real name is mentioned by Errinwright in S2 during a conversation with Chrisjen where she tells him "you're going to be the star of the show when the Eros investigation proceeds."
That the protomolecule is playing with the time was clear when they realised simultaneous occurrences on Venus/Io/Ganymede. Real-time FTL communication is nothing other than time travel.
@Darkstar Oh, I am fully cognizant of semantic inaccuracy. But I can be as sloppy as I want since I am not writing a scientific paper. As long as people get a general idea and start thinking along that line: I achieved everything I wanted.
@Darkstar actually, everything going FTL becomes time traveling according to the Special Relativity. I'm not competent enough to try explaining this concept to anyone, but there is a recent video on channel Arvin Ash that explains it.
To explain Miller's science word salad, it's actually a bunch of references to esoteric physics theories. "Phase conjugation" is a way of correcting for signal interference (crudely speaking), which has obvious implications here. A "non-local quantum hologram" might the the nature of the transmitted signal to Holden, IDK what else that might mean. "Resonating in microtubules in the brain" is a reference to a (not widely-accepted) theory by physicist Roger Penrose that consciousness arises from quantum processes in the brain, rather than deterministically from the firing of neurons, so it's a sly reference to the protomolecule interfering in Holden's consciousness to communicate with him. A "closed timelike curve on a lorentzian manifold" is a really fancy way of saying "time travel into the past." Here "closed" means "returning to the point of origin" in both space AND in time. I think that's just a way of implying that the protomolecule can do whatever the fuck it wants waaaay beyond human comprehension (while avoiding any book spoilers).
yeah the potential benefits of a closed timelike curve would be perfect real time communication over any distance as even if the signal needs travel time to cross distances it also travels backwards in time, creating the illusion of instantaneous response
So am I alone in finding the show first and then binging all the books (well, we’re still waiting on book 9 but we all know that) right after this season?
@@vorpalrobot Oh yeah the groundwork has been laid for a while. Another great Easter egg is all the way back in 1x03 when the Martians on the Donnager are interrogating the mains, and they look at Naomi's file and there is a blink and you'll miss it reference to a certain "known past associate" (you know who I mean) and right after that is when they suddenly switch to being super suspicious of her.
In the books Naomi Nagata never left the Roci, however, they needed the character of the "chief engineer" aboard the Behemoth and did not want to create a new character for a single season.
She also never left the Roci during Ilus IV, she was never suppose to be able to land on any well. But that would significantly reduce her scenes and her part in the book weren't all that important anyway.
I still find it funny that even with giving Sam and Bull's stories to Naomi and Drummer to simplify the cast they reintroduce Bull back into the show later.
@@Phrixscreoth But the actor plays him nothing like his character in the book. Completely different personality. I have to admit that bugged me. He only appears in one book and they passed over him only to bring him into season 5 because they needed someone to fill the role.
@@pamelahofman1785 Oh for sure, and that's kind of what I find funny about the whole situation. It doesn't bother me per se that he's functionally a totally different character in the show given what happens to him in the book.
Miller "talks to Holden" because he is a "non-local quantum hologram manifesting in the microtubules" of Holden's brain. Miller knew Holden better than anybody else.
The Sol Ring measures 1,000 km in diameter. For comparison, the diameter of Earth is 12,742 km (Luna: 3,474 km) and the OPAS Behemoth as the largest ship in the series so far is a little over 2 km long and just under 1 km wide.
Timelike curves and Lorentzian manifolds are fancy ways of Miller saying - “manipulating space-time”. Microtubals in the brain are actual structures in the brain that may play a part in how neurons work. So proto-Miller is basically saying he/it/the protomolecule is manipulating Holden’s brain to specifically to see and interact with a simulation of Miller. So the real question is what does Porto-Miller want and how much of real Miller is in there - how much agency does he have.
00:06 “Last time… Calvin you were not here, what happened, what’d ya think?” “A lot of shit. Thought it was great!” That’s pretty much the standard reply after every episode of this series.
Not just that, because Miller is the tool that finds out thing and the proto molecule 'knows' Holden from Miller. It trust Miller's assessment of people.
Could it be possible the protomolecule on the Roci sending info about the crew. Maybe it analysed that Holden is the person more suitable for what it trying to accomplish and that’s why it decided to communicate with Holden.
More correctly, Holden is the person Miller 'knows'. Miller's identity is selected because his ability in deduction, his judge of character and situations. Hence the investigator/protomolecule has the memory of knowing Holden is a suitable contact point. The Roci aren't the only place where proto can be found, but Holden is the only person worth contacting.
@@biocapsule7311 and he's in charge on Roci. Miller has some negative issues with Amos and Alex is not the person, who can persuade the whole Roci's team to move elsewhere. And Naomi is absent on the ship.
Spoilers in regards to the conversation at the start about Julie seeing Miller before she died... I have a theory about why Julie might have seen Miller just before she died; I think it could relate to the fact that the Protomolecule has some FTL (faster than light) capabilities; it has been shown at several points already that the Protomolecule has instantaneous FTL communication with other samples of Protomolecule, plus it literally exists to build a Ring Gate which is a form of FTL travel. The thing with FTL, and why many scientists believe it will be impossible is that it theoretically enables backwards time travel which kind of breaks the universe by creating potential for all kinds of paradoxes. Julie's vision of Miller could have been a side effect of FTL communications; like incomplete fragments of information rippling backwards in time; hence Protomolecule infected Julie briefly glimpsing Proto Miller/The Investigator before he exists and without ever meeting original Miller. This could just be a way for the show to acknowledge that possible repercussion of FTL in a way which doesn't break the plot or turn this into a time travel story. Alternatively it could be setup for something further down the line; I haven't read books 7 or 8 yet, and book 9 isn't out so I have no idea whether time travel ever plays a part in the story. Edit: out of curiosity I just looked up some of the physics jargon which The Investigator mentions at the end of this episode to explain how Holden can see him, and one thing he mentions is "closed time-like curves in a Lorentzian manifold" and according to the ever reliable Wikipedia, Closed Time-like Curves (CTCs) are a theoretical concept in physics which, if proven to exist, could mean that backwards time travel is possible. IMO this pretty much confirms that when Julie saw Miller as she was dying that was literally the Protomolecule giving her a brief glimpse of the future
"Possible mild spoilers" he says Then turns around and explains the purpose of the protomolecule and what the Ring Gate does, which is Season Finale stuff.
@@minusxero I've changed it just to say spoilers but I would say that it is already pretty clear at this point in the season that the ring transports things somewhere else
@@TehIdiotOne which is why I put a spoiler warning. Also it is already apparent that the Ring transports people somewhere, and the reveal that there were other rings leading to other solar systems is actually in the next episode not the finale
A closed time loop would be a universe or region where space loops into the past. In a closed universe, if you could travel forward faster than light, you could arrive where you departed from, in the past.
This ring space thing is brilliant. There is an intelligence involved that can slow down objects within the ring space. Then you have Miller who is looking for something. Using Holden in the physical plane because he cannot interact with objects maybe?
Since the PM can manipulate Holden's brain by creating the vision of Miller, I'm wondering if it can manipulate Holden in other ways, like compelling him to go to the ring station. Or it could just be Holden's curiosity that potentially kills the cat.
Julie seeing Miller almost seems to imply that she was still alive until that moment. That him actually walking in the room was the last thing she saw. I don't know if the timeline works with that, but that's one possible explanation.
@@Afterburner215 Good point, thanks. The bird I was thinking she could remember cause it was something outside her apartment on Ceres. But I had forgotten about the hat.
@@dannybrase1253 To elaborate, keep in mind that when she saw the vision, she was as much protomolecule as she was Julie. Maybe it was the P,M”s vision.
“Wonder where her kid is”. Me: 😑😑. Love the continued appreciation of all things Amos and how they really try to stick to the science. So friggin good. 23:28- Aaron “……when Mrs SNt clause cMe through”. LMAO. 35:20- Calvin sleuth is rusty.
A mind like the Promolecule that speaks at faster than light would have a difficult time with cause and effect. Or at least, "cause then effect". You hear that FTL communication would "violate causality", but it's hard to explain what that means. Simply put, if you had FTL communication, you could have effect then cause, or both simultaneously. So it's possible that Julie saw Miller because her connection to the protomolecule allowed her to see Miller who arrived in the future, because past, present, and future are meaningless to the protomolecule, or at least malleable.... That's my theory. It's not in the books, and it doesn't explain the bird, so I don't know.
Really don't remember how this got answered later. But I think if Julie's sister had all the Mao wealth, she wouldn't do the dirty work but send an assassin to plant the bomb.
Nice guesses about the interactions between Julie, "Miller", and Holden. :) Pastor Anna Volovodov. "Melba's" real name is Clarissa Mao. :) But, given how far ahead you are, you know that by now. Fun reaction. I look forward to the next ones.
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So according to the authors of the Expanse the moment that Miller and Julie joined created ripples in time. Those ripples went forward and backwards in time. Which was why we see them seeing one another throughout the first and second seasons. When those two minds merged they became linked, in both the past and the future. Highly recommend the Ty and That Guy podcast explaination of the timey wimey stuff.
When does Julie see Miller?
@@jeffb255 They literally just said, when Miller and Julie joined on Eros it sent ripples of each other throughout time. Julie seeing Miller is a ripple from that moment going back in time to her.
@@jeffb255 she sees Miller right before she dies
It's quantum entanglement babey! But for real, I really find quite touching that two people meeting only once reverberates to the past, creating that connection that leads to their meeting. It's like a sci fi explanation of "fate".
I will say wait until you have seen season 5. As the podcast is a rewatch after it and they do bring up spoilers.
I love how Ashford's talk with Naomi had the opposite effect he thought it was having. Such a well constructed scene.
Or it had the exact response he was hoping for in getting rid of Drummers support system 🤷🏼 he’s a very smart cookie
8:08 "Sometimes Holden really looks like Jon Snow"
Fun Fact: In the German synchronization both Jon and Holden have the same voice actor.
A lot of fans call Holden "Discount Jon Snow" xDD
@@j3RicK24 Jon Snow should be referred to as "Discount James Holden" 😄
Mah Protomolecule. I don wan it.
It's not a timeline curve, it's a time-LIKE curve. It's some weird shit that theoretically can happen at the event horizon of a black hole.
I don't understand it, but that makes sense to me.
@@jonasgrant It's a lot of physical mambo-jambo stitched together to vaguely make sense. Microtubules do exist, and there are (highly speculative) ideas that they interact with some sort of "universal quantum background". The rest of that sequence seems to describe some sort of quantum phenomenon (that can indeed be non-local, see quantum entanglement for example), but also classical ways of communication ("lorentzian" refers to the lorentz factor, which describes relativistic effects like time dilation). Overall it's technobabble, but it's better technobabble than most stuff you see on Star Trek since it refers to actual ideas about how the human mind might be connected to or even a product of the the quantum world.
Look up "quantum mind" if you want, but tread with caution. These are highly speculative concepts, that are far away from any scientific evidence that we could probably produce in the foreseeable future.
@@sverebom7069 I will, thank you for your explanation.
@@jonasgrant a timelike curve is a path through spacetime that slower than light particles (i.e. everything we know) can travel along. A closed timelike curve is one such curve that is a loop, i.e. you can travel back in time while travelling along that curve
8:06 in the german syncro steven strait is actualy voiced by the same voice actor (patrick roche) as kit harington
Quite logical since Holden is often called "space Jon Snow" (both for the resemblance of the actors and the similar character traits)
Nobody really understands just how difficult it is for one person to plan/organize a high-society party and make all of the pieces come together exactly the right way to produce the final effect that you want.
Tahani knows.
@@Yggdrasil42 what's a "Tahani"?
@@LeeCarlson Reference to "The Good Place"
@@Yggdrasil42 🤣
"I wonder where her kid is?" - oh you sweet summer's child...
lol same
lol my favorite question of the video
Clarissa / Melba gives a whole new weight to the "daddy issues" trope lol, overriding existential threats and all. I absolutely loved Drummer's speech, and am glad it makes quite clear for the audience where Belter's mindset goes and comes from. The whole thing about how the protomolecule may or may not bend time in a different way is so good
This show is such a gift. Rewatches only bring more details to light. Every. Single. Time.
Melba's real name is mentioned by Errinwright in S2 during a conversation with Chrisjen where she tells him "you're going to be the star of the show when the Eros investigation proceeds."
That the protomolecule is playing with the time was clear when they realised simultaneous occurrences on Venus/Io/Ganymede. Real-time FTL communication is nothing other than time travel.
Oh, nice! I missed this observation. :)
@Darkstar Oh, I am fully cognizant of semantic inaccuracy. But I can be as sloppy as I want since I am not writing a scientific paper. As long as people get a general idea and start thinking along that line: I achieved everything I wanted.
@Darkstar actually, everything going FTL becomes time traveling according to the Special Relativity. I'm not competent enough to try explaining this concept to anyone, but there is a recent video on channel Arvin Ash that explains it.
@@Nazar_Melnyk actually, everything is time travelling lol u aint suspended in time are u?
@@matthewfors114 you know that I meant "back in time".
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BELTALOWDA!
BELTALOWDA!
To explain Miller's science word salad, it's actually a bunch of references to esoteric physics theories.
"Phase conjugation" is a way of correcting for signal interference (crudely speaking), which has obvious implications here. A "non-local quantum hologram" might the the nature of the transmitted signal to Holden, IDK what else that might mean.
"Resonating in microtubules in the brain" is a reference to a (not widely-accepted) theory by physicist Roger Penrose that consciousness arises from quantum processes in the brain, rather than deterministically from the firing of neurons, so it's a sly reference to the protomolecule interfering in Holden's consciousness to communicate with him.
A "closed timelike curve on a lorentzian manifold" is a really fancy way of saying "time travel into the past." Here "closed" means "returning to the point of origin" in both space AND in time. I think that's just a way of implying that the protomolecule can do whatever the fuck it wants waaaay beyond human comprehension (while avoiding any book spoilers).
yeah the potential benefits of a closed timelike curve would be perfect real time communication over any distance as even if the signal needs travel time to cross distances it also travels backwards in time, creating the illusion of instantaneous response
...so a crime scene.
The micro tubules part has ramifications in the later books. Fascinating.
So am I alone in finding the show first and then binging all the books (well, we’re still waiting on book 9 but we all know that) right after this season?
@@vorpalrobot Oh yeah the groundwork has been laid for a while. Another great Easter egg is all the way back in 1x03 when the Martians on the Donnager are interrogating the mains, and they look at Naomi's file and there is a blink and you'll miss it reference to a certain "known past associate" (you know who I mean) and right after that is when they suddenly switch to being super suspicious of her.
In the books Naomi Nagata never left the Roci, however, they needed the character of the "chief engineer" aboard the Behemoth and did not want to create a new character for a single season.
She also never left the Roci during Ilus IV, she was never suppose to be able to land on any well. But that would significantly reduce her scenes and her part in the book weren't all that important anyway.
I still find it funny that even with giving Sam and Bull's stories to Naomi and Drummer to simplify the cast they reintroduce Bull back into the show later.
@@Phrixscreoth But the actor plays him nothing like his character in the book. Completely different personality. I have to admit that bugged me. He only appears in one book and they passed over him only to bring him into season 5 because they needed someone to fill the role.
@@pamelahofman1785 Oh for sure, and that's kind of what I find funny about the whole situation. It doesn't bother me per se that he's functionally a totally different character in the show given what happens to him in the book.
Drummer speech always fire me up, like yeah, lets go kill some dragons hahaha
DRUMMERS SPEECH!! A Favorite moment from this season. Loved it!
Great discussion guys, looking forward to the rest of the season very much!
Cara Gee and Dom Tipper for Emmys!
Miller "talks to Holden" because he is a "non-local quantum hologram manifesting in the microtubules" of Holden's brain. Miller knew Holden better than anybody else.
All of the Mao assets were frozen but any good/crooked businessman would have secret slushfunds stashed all over. Clarissa had access to some of them.
8:06 Same here. But then I see Holden actually be effective and useful in the story and that clears up the confusion.
The Sol Ring measures 1,000 km in diameter. For comparison, the diameter of Earth is 12,742 km (Luna: 3,474 km) and the OPAS Behemoth as the largest ship in the series so far is a little over 2 km long and just under 1 km wide.
1 km = 0.62 miles
1 mile = 1.61 km
Timelike curves and Lorentzian manifolds are fancy ways of Miller saying - “manipulating space-time”. Microtubals in the brain are actual structures in the brain that may play a part in how neurons work.
So proto-Miller is basically saying he/it/the protomolecule is manipulating Holden’s brain to specifically to see and interact with a simulation of Miller. So the real question is what does Porto-Miller want and how much of real Miller is in there - how much agency does he have.
19:32 Jesus, Aaron. Phrasing!
😂😂
Lol
That was epic xD
Bruh, those speculations.
They got ideas that are like four episodes ahead.
That's what makes them so fun to watch.
They get so much right, but just enough wrong to keep it really interesting. :)
@@thomashiggins9320 But this is nuts. Finding a solution long before the problem even starts. :D
Drummer and Naomi make me think what the female word is for Bromance.
Yeah but Drummer is kind of in love with Naomi
@@HenryM912 after watching season 5 the answer is yes
I’m pretty sure for women it’s just called a friendship.
Homance
Scissoring.
Of course, Amos was being gentle. He could have just opened their carotids all over the decks.
I've been waiting for the love affair to begin with Amos. Eric finally made my dream a reality!👏
Next week:
"Monkeys and microwaves..."
Alternatively "Monkey, Motzart."
"No monkey ever reheated a frozen burrito."
"How come every time some shit is going down in the system..."
Lots of great quotes that episode.
00:06 “Last time… Calvin you were not here, what happened, what’d ya think?”
“A lot of shit. Thought it was great!”
That’s pretty much the standard reply after every episode of this series.
Great reaction guys! I continue to love your reaction and analysis of the Expanse! You all have very very interesting theories!!! Hmmmmm
I believe proto-Miller chose Holden because it knows he is the Captain of the Rocinante.
Not just that, because Miller is the tool that finds out thing and the proto molecule 'knows' Holden from Miller. It trust Miller's assessment of people.
19:28 Oh, Aaron! 😂
Lol
Julie was able to see Miller before her body stopped, because the Proto-Molecule showed him to her in a vision that was shown at the end of season 1.
DISCOUNT JON SNOWWWWW is what we called him before I could remember his name
Intransigence definition: 'refusal to change one's views or to agree about something.'
can't wait for your reactions to the season finale
Could it be possible the protomolecule on the Roci sending info about the crew. Maybe it analysed that Holden is the person more suitable for what it trying to accomplish and that’s why it decided to communicate with Holden.
Holden is the captain of the Roci, that's why protomolecule tried to connect him in the first place.
More correctly, Holden is the person Miller 'knows'. Miller's identity is selected because his ability in deduction, his judge of character and situations. Hence the investigator/protomolecule has the memory of knowing Holden is a suitable contact point. The Roci aren't the only place where proto can be found, but Holden is the only person worth contacting.
@@biocapsule7311 and he's in charge on Roci. Miller has some negative issues with Amos and Alex is not the person, who can persuade the whole Roci's team to move elsewhere. And Naomi is absent on the ship.
Awesome. Loving the reaction. It's a great series.
Spoilers in regards to the conversation at the start about Julie seeing Miller before she died...
I have a theory about why Julie might have seen Miller just before she died; I think it could relate to the fact that the Protomolecule has some FTL (faster than light) capabilities; it has been shown at several points already that the Protomolecule has instantaneous FTL communication with other samples of Protomolecule, plus it literally exists to build a Ring Gate which is a form of FTL travel. The thing with FTL, and why many scientists believe it will be impossible is that it theoretically enables backwards time travel which kind of breaks the universe by creating potential for all kinds of paradoxes. Julie's vision of Miller could have been a side effect of FTL communications; like incomplete fragments of information rippling backwards in time; hence Protomolecule infected Julie briefly glimpsing Proto Miller/The Investigator before he exists and without ever meeting original Miller.
This could just be a way for the show to acknowledge that possible repercussion of FTL in a way which doesn't break the plot or turn this into a time travel story. Alternatively it could be setup for something further down the line; I haven't read books 7 or 8 yet, and book 9 isn't out so I have no idea whether time travel ever plays a part in the story.
Edit: out of curiosity I just looked up some of the physics jargon which The Investigator mentions at the end of this episode to explain how Holden can see him, and one thing he mentions is "closed time-like curves in a Lorentzian manifold" and according to the ever reliable Wikipedia, Closed Time-like Curves (CTCs) are a theoretical concept in physics which, if proven to exist, could mean that backwards time travel is possible. IMO this pretty much confirms that when Julie saw Miller as she was dying that was literally the Protomolecule giving her a brief glimpse of the future
"Possible mild spoilers" he says
Then turns around and explains the purpose of the protomolecule and what the Ring Gate does, which is Season Finale stuff.
@@minusxero I've changed it just to say spoilers but I would say that it is already pretty clear at this point in the season that the ring transports things somewhere else
This is a huge spoiler for the later part of the season.
@@TehIdiotOne which is why I put a spoiler warning. Also it is already apparent that the Ring transports people somewhere, and the reveal that there were other rings leading to other solar systems is actually in the next episode not the finale
peaches
A closed time loop would be a universe or region where space loops into the past. In a closed universe, if you could travel forward faster than light, you could arrive where you departed from, in the past.
Shang-Chi is in the next episode!
Don't you mean Jung from Kim's Convenience? ;-)
I heard he's very good in interior designing
This ring space thing is brilliant. There is an intelligence involved that can slow down objects within the ring space. Then you have Miller who is looking for something. Using Holden in the physical plane because he cannot interact with objects maybe?
"A closed time-like curve" which means the passage of space-time.
I love Holden and Amos! My fave characters
the difference between the Behemoth and other ships.. The behemoth puts it in then steps forward, others step froward then put it in
Spin the goddamn drum!
Since the PM can manipulate Holden's brain by creating the vision of Miller, I'm wondering if it can manipulate Holden in other ways, like compelling him to go to the ring station. Or it could just be Holden's curiosity that potentially kills the cat.
The ring near Uranus will let a behemoth in after an emotional speech
julie saw miller right before she dies because miller literally did just walk into the room before she died.
Julie could see Miller because miller was actually there, that is where he died. Both were in the same physical space.
The Reverand Doctor Anna Vodolava is a motivational speaker. Melba Koh is a cover for Clarissa Mao.
Remember the Cant
I'm commenting years after the video aired, I'm curious if any of the Blind Wave crew had read the novels since then. Anyone know?
Julie seeing Miller almost seems to imply that she was still alive until that moment. That him actually walking in the room was the last thing she saw. I don't know if the timeline works with that, but that's one possible explanation.
While not explained in the show, the books mention that the protomolecule can manipulate time.
Except she saw him with a hat on his head and a floating bird by his side, two things which weren't present at the time he walked in for real.
@@Afterburner215 Exactly!
@@Afterburner215 Good point, thanks. The bird I was thinking she could remember cause it was something outside her apartment on Ceres. But I had forgotten about the hat.
@@dannybrase1253 To elaborate, keep in mind that when she saw the vision, she was as much protomolecule as she was Julie. Maybe it was the P,M”s vision.
A closed time like is a reference to a Lorentzian manifold model. Look up a closed timelike curve, it's a bit trippy.
21:45 Did rick pull a Super Troopers here? Lol
Aaron looks like the drummer from Phish in that shirt. Always wear it on camera.
I just got the lost reference when Jules-Pierre Mao was like don't be absurd, is that a spoiler, IDK don't think so, oh well if it is I'm sorry
“Wonder where her kid is”.
Me: 😑😑. Love the continued appreciation of all things Amos and how they really try to stick to the science. So friggin good.
23:28- Aaron “……when Mrs SNt clause cMe through”. LMAO.
35:20- Calvin sleuth is rusty.
A mind like the Promolecule that speaks at faster than light would have a difficult time with cause and effect. Or at least, "cause then effect". You hear that FTL communication would "violate causality", but it's hard to explain what that means. Simply put, if you had FTL communication, you could have effect then cause, or both simultaneously. So it's possible that Julie saw Miller because her connection to the protomolecule allowed her to see Miller who arrived in the future, because past, present, and future are meaningless to the protomolecule, or at least malleable....
That's my theory. It's not in the books, and it doesn't explain the bird, so I don't know.
BELTALOWDA!!!!!!!
Closed time line curve - more like a mobius strip?
They keep saying "nuke you luss" =(
yeah. it's an american thing. particularly the south. ditto for "nookyular"
It's pronounced "nuculus".
@@Yora21 only Americans say it that way. Even Merriam Webster disagrees with that.
@@jaives It's a 30 year old Simpson joke.
@@Yora21 holy crap. i checked the reference. you weren't kidding. sorry about that. completely missed the reference.
Monster (Anime) - Dr Kenzo Tenma. NEED TO WATCH THIS ANIME !!
"A lot of thrust" ... as we will see next ep aparently the MCRN standard space suit has a LOT of delta-V ..like at least 10km/s delta-V
12:39 You'll probably need a neurologist and a quantum physicist to break that down.
Why are Calvin and Rick sitting in the back again?
You have to remember that these are recorded 4 to 5 weeks prior to the public release on TH-cam
@@krisb.1565 ah yes. Forgot that 🤦🏻♂️. Thanks.
Sadly, the authors confirmed that the vision of Miller from Julie was time dilation, no really😔
I kept telling you that 😋 it makes perfect sense
Y'know I would simpatize with the belters if they weren't so fanatic almost to the point of cult-like
Had to skip for Drummer's speech. That is some powerful shit right there.
EDIT 1: Me love me some Peaches.
Don't be absurd.
There are rules.
did you want her to scream Belter Lowder ]:P
Really don't remember how this got answered later. But I think if Julie's sister had all the Mao wealth, she wouldn't do the dirty work but send an assassin to plant the bomb.
Differentiable manifolds are somewhat difficult to understand.
Is anyone seeing the wrong episodem
I would hate to see what amos is like not gentle
Nice guesses about the interactions between Julie, "Miller", and Holden. :)
Pastor Anna Volovodov.
"Melba's" real name is Clarissa Mao. :)
But, given how far ahead you are, you know that by now.
Fun reaction. I look forward to the next ones.
Good god, Eric! As if „nucular“ wasn‘t bad enough. „Nuculus“???
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I'm suprised you havent watched raised by wolves, that's a great sci fi series.
Finish fear the walking dead plz
You are a journalist you must tell the truth? What planet are you from?