Ive been gaming the 790's for a couple of years now and for the time being and my current index ( 8 ) I just cant see going to anything else ,, love the new look of the 790's ,I think Titleist has done an incredible job on the new T series irons. I also think that they where getting tired of trailing in popularity so good on them to put out a great looking "players iron" that will appeal to a larger number of people.
About a month ago I went for a fitting. It came down to P770 T200 & P790. The P770 felt really good & ticked all the boxes for me & honestly I've never liked the feel or sound of the P790. But hands down without a doubt the T200 were Superb. They actually remind me of the Titleist 716cb just a little more forgiving & longer. Needless to say Titleist are currently building my 2022 set & I couldn't be happier. Thanks a lot & Happy Holidays
Thanks Mike. I was looking forward to this comparison. I prefer the shelf appearance of the P790 but I agree with you on the look in the playing position. Things might be different if Taylormade had beveled and polished the back edge of the top line. And I really don't like the naff bit of plastic Titleist have used to hide the tech. That said, while I'm not a big hitter, by any stretch of the imagination, I would forego the extra distance of the P790 for the dispersion of the T200. Those deviation numbers were pretty impressive.
Covid golfer here who caught the bug! Got fitted for some t200s with Amt black s300 shafts, broke 100 on my first round with these for the first time. Tested the p790s also and chose the t200s. Pure hits off the face just make you feel like you’re ready for the Kornferry tour. Lol highly recommend!
Titleist will be the best overall club in terms of dispersion and although the distance will be slightly shorter it will be a better choice because you’re still getting good distance without sacrificing performance like spin and dissent angle
@@duggiefresh8170 You are totally correct. Just forgot to consider that when making the comment as I am not interestelar in raw power regarding irons. Nonetheless p790 are great irons just not for me
Bravo Michael, I'll also always take consistent performance over flash/inconsistent length. Golf is about consistency and placement, not length, particularly in the irons. Great review!
Personally tried both myself and got fitted and the P790 won hands down. Wasn’t even close. I’m an 18 handicap but looking to get even lower now I have correctly fitted clubs.
When I got fitted last the jumpers from the p790 was the issue. If I was to play either of these I would blend and have these in the 6iron plus I think titilest blends better
I just got into the golf game and don’t have access to a decent shop so been buying clubs online and sending back the ones I don’t like. P790 is a winner, Callaway Apex Pro is not as forgiving and doesn’t feel as crisp. Titleist are nice too but just feels a little slower. Callaway Epic Max Star is hella nice too!
Just hit the T200’s P790’s and Jpx 921’s and didn’t hit the 200’s well at all. Was actually upset because they are so sexy. Ended up going with the P790’s but it was difficult to pass up on the Mizunos. Great performance on both of those
Thanks Michael...nice review. Prefer the polished chrome appearance of the P790 and am not put off by the slightly thicker top line. Currently game the New Level MODB-1s...another hollow body players distance iron. When it’s time to make a change..will definitely take a look at both of these.
These two irons are natural competitors, and I have been waiting for this comparison. Thanks. However, both cost about US$1,500 for eight irons which is pretty expensive. Meanwhile, I am very content with my Callaway Mavrik's which cost US$800.
Everything is cheaper paying cash. 👌 find a fitter that isn’t a manufacturer. I went with a 3-GW 790 and 54-60 Callaway Jaws at under 1600. Saved me over 500 on no taxes, and wasn’t charged at MSRP. Remember, if you want to support local the best thing you can do is pay cash.
For what it's worth..I had a 790/770 mixed set last year..went to T100s/t200 this past spring. Did it mostly because just couldn't get comfortable with the 770s as scoring and chipping clubs.To much ball jump off the face..Will keep my 2019 t100s 8,9,pw but probably be replacing the t200s over the winter..I like the look and shorter length of the new ones
I’ve recently purchased the Callaway Apex 21 irons. I wondered how they might compare? I’m personally delighted with them. Very consistent, workable and forgiving
I have the same set but hitting my friends 790 iron not graphite…… the striking and power through is so much better. I bought me a 6 and Pitching Wedge for my Sunday bag.
I just spent about 6 hours at Golf Galaxy going back and forth with about 7 different irons and and p790’s were hands down the best choice according to the numbers. I was hoping the Mizuno 225’s we’re gonna Cinderellas slipper but the P790 blew them all away. Maybe next year they’ll come out with a chromed out P790 with a beveled top line.
Just got fitted at Champion Golf…tried pretty much everything in this category from JPX-921 HMP, PXG, Callaway, and P790…wound up fitting with the T200…great feel on good hits and nice dispersion for me…only negative in my mind was the sound is a bit clicky…will take a little to get used to. I imagine out doors it won’t be as big a factor since won’t have walls to bounce the sound, but either way, they flew very nicely for me and felt great, which were my top two needs. A full club longer than my old Apex CF16s…
t200 all day. p790 is chunkier with more offset and less consistency strike to strike. differences in ball speed and launch are mostly due to differences in loft. t200 will blend really well with t100s too, whereas p790 will be tough to combo. titleist has a real winner this year.
I’ve watched lots of reviews and the P790 is very consistent, and the offset for example the 6 iron is .3 mm different so literally nothing, and I’d say the P790 is way better looking .
Just took delivery of my T200’s, though this years model. They look, feel and sound awesome! Tried TM but T200’s felt and sound so much better to me. With Project X LZ shafts - killer…. Love your reviews, and what a silky swing…. 😊👍
Thanks for the great video and comparison!! I currently use the 2019 P-790’s and I like them, but I’ve always felt I lacked launch. I know Taylormade are a mid launch iron, vs Titliest or Mizuno being a higher launch. Anyway, my local club had a Titliest demo day yesterday and I was lucky enough to sneak in and hit the new T-200’s and WOW! What a difference. I really did not think there would be such a difference in performance. My launch was off the chart and dispersion was WAY tighter and distances were basically exactly the same. Needless to say I have a new set of T-200’s being delivered in 30 days. Thanks again for the video!!
@@robertpoche1585 I definitely agree. I just figured by the time I paid for a fitting and bought whatever custom shafts I needed to get to where the T-200’s get me I’d probably be knock for knock in price.
Well done Mike I was hoping that someone would do this H2H comparison👍 Cosmetically they both look pretty stunning, from the back view for me the TM looks cleaner, but at address, the Titleist definitely has the edge, with a thinner top line. If I was in the market for new Irons I would probably go for a Titleist T100S-T200 combo set, When I tried the original P790's I really struggled with getting a decent ball flight, for some reason because of the low spin I was hitting a lot of low spinning knuckle-balls
Was fitted at the end of August by TM into p790 . Just been told they can’t deliver until mid February. Very disappointed but prepared to wait. Head to head against t200 they felt much softer to me and I hit them better.
why can I not find the exact model of T2 that you are using. It appears to have an adjustable hosel? Loft Lie? Both clubs seem to be adjustable at the hosel? I want!
Great review Michael...How would you compare the new Titleist T 200 vs the Mizuno jPX 921 Hot Metal Irons????? That would be a good review...Thanks....
@@MichaelNewtonGolf you are quite welcome. I would love to see you do an instructional series. I really think it could bring you a massive TH-cam crowd like Danny Maude. The nuances of the game are never covered.
I test out the t200 and really like the right dispersion. Can you test a t200 2021 vs pxg 0311 vs Callaway apex dcb. Looking to pick up one of the 3 iron sets this month
i have the t200 and the plastic back of the 7 iron has caved outward ..very bad ...hopefully theyll warranty...im houng to trade for the 790's no plastic
Tried both with different shafts (HCP 12). Both felt great. The main difference makes the shaft. Hard to choose one for the moment. I felt maybe a fraction "safer" with the TM. Want to try the Mizuno 225 and the Ping i525 as well.
I like the hosel on the T200 but I do like the Matte/ Satin Finish on the P790 on the front and back giving it a cleaner and more efficient look so the glare from the sun doesn't get you.
Mike would you say either of these would be a "longer" version than my i210s and would either be as F/B consistant and still spin like my i210s or are these common low spin distance clubs?
T200 for me. Had the 2019 p790 model and hated them. Hit them great during the custom fit process but get them on the course and you’ll see massive variations in distance - never played so many shots from over the back of the green. You couldn’t say I hit a 7 iron 160 yards with the p790 as one would go 175 then the next would go 160!
Damn! Thats my fear with the p790. Its not worth being able club down if catching a flyer happens every round. I've been playing AP1s for 5 seasons and when I do upgrade, distance dispersing > everything.
@@jackjames7348 so I tested my current clubs the 620mb blades on GC quad against the T100 and T200. On bad strikes literally the same area. Same swig speed and all. On my blades It was about a 17 yard drop off. On t100 It was like 15 ish. On the T200 It was about 5….. literally only 5 yard drop off in distance… that’s the difference between being in a bunker or water hazard instead of on the green or rough in a layup. That’s huge…. I had to put my ego aside and go with the T200. The fitting doesn’t lie. On days like last week in my tournament where I shot 68 I can play my blades. But then days like yesterday where I shoot an 8 because of ball striking I’m sure the T200 would of saved me at least 5 shots. So ultimately I know the T200 is better. I’ve never played anything else but blades or CBs. But I’m sure I’ll get used to the look of the clubs very fast and the benefit will be there.
@@SwayPromo and did you see a distance difference between your MB and the t100s and t200. I currently am like you playing mizuno half blades half cavity backs. Love the feel. Can get big drop offs. But I also jist want to add an extra club distance.
Hit these both and the t200 won by far. Like you I had tighter dispersion with them. Also the p790 was so much more clunky feeling compared to the t200. Noticeably bigger head. Thicker top line. Also the p790 was louder at impact than the t200
Always enjoy your videos and the head2heads! Do you believe the new Apex irons compared to these two? If so what are you thoughts and opinions on the three of them? Also, maybe another idea for a video. Thanks!
I got a chance to hit new P790, i got P790 2019 model, i hit them both and the new model seems to get more height and i loose 5 meter distance on the new one.
I see alot of comments about the badging on the T200, but I would be equally concerned about the screw in the P790. Has anyone had any issues with those in previous generations? I am typically not a huge TM fan due to quality issues several years back (specifically the R1 driver), but intend to give them another chance and give these P790 a test. Have a hunch I will end up with the T100s though.
I own the 2019 p790 and Titliest AP3. Went back to AP3 this summer. Regarding the screw...honestly, I never noticed it. They are really visually stunning in the bag. I only switched back bc I had my best season with the AP3's...and got a lil nostalgic for them this year. :)
@@chadode9048 good to hear the screw isn’t a problem. i will try them both and to be honest I am a bit of a Titleist loyalist. I really want something with a forged body not just a forged face. I am leaning Apex or T100-s but may end up doing a combo set. We will see.
@@bwclark174a I love Titliest irons as well. If full forged is your jam...the P790's might underwhelm you a bit. Good luck with search. Iron hunting is my favorite offseason hobby!
@@chadode9048 same here. My search is a bit more urgent this year. My clubs were stolen a couple of months ago and I have a couple of trips planned in 2022. Luckily I still had my old set of Titleist CB16s in the garage to use in the meantime.
Thanks for the side-by-side test, as always. What a difference technology makes. My forged blade 7 iron has a 35.5 degree loft versus the 31 degrees of these. But placement of tungsten and shaving grams here to add them there maintains height and spin while the stronger loft adds yards. And on a personal note, the next time they are looking to cast a new Sir James Bond, you should definitely audition. You'd be perfect, height, looks, accent.
I recently went for an iron set fitting and am faced with a big dilemma between the p790s and t300s the numbers came out identical but the spin rate was a tad higher with the p790s. Any help/advise on which ones to go for would be much appreciated 👌
Probably too late to give you any advice but I'm curious about what/if you decided to go with the Titleist or the Taylormade. Did you pick up a new set?
On my last fitting I was about to order the TM P790's when the fitter asked me to try the Cobra forged tec X's. Well, that was a complete game changer! Stupidly I picked up a 2nd hand set of the standard cobra forged tec's and instantly regretted it. So back on the market ha!
@@nathanblair8883 I think it's really important to find the right shaft when you're looking at a strong lofted iron like the P790 or the Forged tec x. Finding the right shaft can help a lot with trajectory, spin rate and dispersion gaps in the long irons. I work as a fitter and I would want you to try the T200 in addition to the T300. I'd also be curious to see if you liked the Mizuno 225. The T200 would be a great option if you're looking for something you might be able to "grow into" as you get better at ball striking. If you're not able to practice much then maybe the T300 might be a better fit.
@@mikeabel7577 thanks for your advise 👍I'm a 15 handicapper and like to think that my ball striking is good. Like many, during the summer months I regularly get a few 9 hole rounds in a week, then drop off over the winter. I am definitely looking for something that I can improve/progress with but at the same time I still want plenty of forgiveness for those not so good days
Just to I am currently using my cleveland ta6 irons which a 15+ years old now! On fittings that have all said the data from them is pretty good. I also like the cavity back look, which is probably what drawn me to the T300's. So I want something that provide a worthwhile upgrade. All fitters have suggested I go down the players distance iron as apposed to the game improvement
Have you ever off-camera gone 5 shots with each club back and forth till you have hit 30+ with each, just 5 each seems a low shot number to conclude a clubs performance?
First time watching any of your videos. Thanks TH-cam for the reco. I'd advise hitting 5 more shots with each and then dropping the 5 worst hit shots to get a better comparison. You can still make a note later about consistency, if say the T200's all ~12 shots were close, where as say the P790's had larger extremes on the 5 worst struck shots. Otherwise I love the data driven review.
@@JDSFLA hmm I went back and watched it. He doesn’t give a reason for the change of launch monitor. It seems like it maybe just came with the facility.
I think that the category has peaked. All the companies now make great products. I wonder who will come out on top and adjust their pricing accordingly to undercut the others?
The Srixon ZX-5’s are geared towards similar players, are fantastic clubs, and are $200 to $300 cheaper for 4 - PW than either of the sets in the video.
Both look gorgeous, be tough for me to pick, same at address, Titleist looks cleaner but the satin finish of the Taylor Made says “no glare”. Price point, even. I’ll stick to my Ben Hogans.
P790 is huge definitely blade length and top line .. it’s definitely game improvement and not player distance category anymore Would love to see 2019 comparison , I know it’s taboo among fitters
Buy the Titleist, the P790 was released by TM knowing that their plant was closed due to Covid and there's a good chance now that you will not get delivery until 2022!
My new p790s arrived yesterday cannot wait to go out today with them!
Best swing of all the TH-cam golf instruction/demo channels.
Testing out these two clubs next week, watching this I really can't wait. Thanks again
My buddy just got fitted for T200s and I got fitted for P790s. We both love our picks, and play well with them. Thats all that matters. 👍
Nice! what is your handicap? Just curious.
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Ive been gaming the 790's for a couple of years now and for the time being and my current index ( 8 ) I just cant see going to anything else ,, love the new look of the 790's ,I think Titleist has done an incredible job on the new T series irons. I also think that they where getting tired of trailing in popularity so good on them to put out a great looking "players iron" that will appeal to a larger number of people.
About a month ago I went for a fitting. It came down to P770 T200 & P790. The P770 felt really good & ticked all the boxes for me & honestly I've never liked the feel or sound of the P790. But hands down without a doubt the T200 were Superb. They actually remind me of the Titleist 716cb just a little more forgiving & longer. Needless to say Titleist are currently building my 2022 set & I couldn't be happier. Thanks a lot & Happy Holidays
I just traded up from the 716cb for the T200s.. the shape is very similar but the power is different!
Thanks Mike. I was looking forward to this comparison. I prefer the shelf appearance of the P790 but I agree with you on the look in the playing position. Things might be different if Taylormade had beveled and polished the back edge of the top line. And I really don't like the naff bit of plastic Titleist have used to hide the tech. That said, while I'm not a big hitter, by any stretch of the imagination, I would forego the extra distance of the P790 for the dispersion of the T200. Those deviation numbers were pretty impressive.
Covid golfer here who caught the bug! Got fitted for some t200s with Amt black s300 shafts, broke 100 on my first round with these for the first time. Tested the p790s also and chose the t200s. Pure hits off the face just make you feel like you’re ready for the Kornferry tour. Lol highly recommend!
Titleist will be the best overall club in terms of dispersion and although the distance will be slightly shorter it will be a better choice because you’re still getting good distance without sacrificing performance like spin and dissent angle
Great review, thanks. T200s hands down. Better in every department
Not in distance. P790 is hotter.
@@duggiefresh8170 You are totally correct. Just forgot to consider that when making the comment as I am not interestelar in raw power regarding irons. Nonetheless p790 are great irons just not for me
T200 ordered this week - just a waiting game now as delivery seems to be January 2022! Looking forward to hitting these on the course. Great review.
Bravo Michael, I'll also always take consistent performance over flash/inconsistent length. Golf is about consistency and placement, not length, particularly in the irons. Great review!
Personally tried both myself and got fitted and the P790 won hands down. Wasn’t even close. I’m an 18 handicap but looking to get even lower now I have correctly fitted clubs.
When I got fitted last the jumpers from the p790 was the issue. If I was to play either of these I would blend and have these in the 6iron plus I think titilest blends better
can you introduce what shaft you use for test?
Can you post video for recommending iron shaft in terms of weight and flex based on 7 iron swing speed?
I just got into the golf game and don’t have access to a decent shop so been buying clubs online and sending back the ones I don’t like. P790 is a winner, Callaway Apex Pro is not as forgiving and doesn’t feel as crisp. Titleist are nice too but just feels a little slower. Callaway Epic Max Star is hella nice too!
Just hit the T200’s P790’s and Jpx 921’s and didn’t hit the 200’s well at all. Was actually upset because they are so sexy. Ended up going with the P790’s but it was difficult to pass up on the Mizunos. Great performance on both of those
Thanks Michael...nice review. Prefer the polished chrome appearance of the P790 and am not put off by the slightly thicker top line. Currently game the New Level MODB-1s...another hollow body players distance iron. When it’s time to make a change..will definitely take a look at both of these.
AHH the T200 had the polished chrome I believe. Great review though!
These two irons are natural competitors, and I have been waiting for this comparison. Thanks. However, both cost about US$1,500 for eight irons which is pretty expensive. Meanwhile, I am very content with my Callaway Mavrik's which cost US$800.
Nothing wrong .. can’t always fall for marketing
Everything is cheaper paying cash. 👌 find a fitter that isn’t a manufacturer. I went with a 3-GW 790 and 54-60 Callaway Jaws at under 1600. Saved me over 500 on no taxes, and wasn’t charged at MSRP. Remember, if you want to support local the best thing you can do is pay cash.
I do like them both a combo set of 770/790 or T200/T100S. I do wonder if the plastic cover on the back of the T200 would hold up?
For what it's worth..I had a 790/770 mixed set last year..went to T100s/t200 this past spring. Did it mostly because just couldn't get comfortable with the 770s as scoring and chipping clubs.To much ball jump off the face..Will keep my 2019 t100s 8,9,pw but probably be replacing the t200s over the winter..I like the look and shorter length of the new ones
Excellent head to head review, thanks Michael. Front to back dispersion will be something I watch carefully when I test these 2.
I’ve recently purchased the Callaway Apex 21 irons. I wondered how they might compare? I’m personally delighted with them. Very consistent, workable and forgiving
I have the same set but hitting my friends 790 iron not graphite…… the striking and power through is so much better. I bought me a 6 and Pitching Wedge for my Sunday bag.
I would love to try the 790 out. I'm still playing the taylormade rac lt irons some of the best looking irons made.
I just spent about 6 hours at Golf Galaxy going back and forth with about 7 different irons and and p790’s were hands down the best choice according to the numbers. I was hoping the Mizuno 225’s we’re gonna Cinderellas slipper but the P790 blew them all away. Maybe next year they’ll come out with a chromed out P790 with a beveled top line.
Battle of the game improvements!
Was literally just thinking of this comparison the other day... thank you!
Just got fitted at Champion Golf…tried pretty much everything in this category from JPX-921 HMP, PXG, Callaway, and P790…wound up fitting with the T200…great feel on good hits and nice dispersion for me…only negative in my mind was the sound is a bit clicky…will take a little to get used to. I imagine out doors it won’t be as big a factor since won’t have walls to bounce the sound, but either way, they flew very nicely for me and felt great, which were my top two needs. A full club longer than my old Apex CF16s…
Real question is which delivers the best hosel rocket?
Tried these, and jpx 921 forged. t200 won out. although they were a little shorter, front to back was better for me.
t200 all day. p790 is chunkier with more offset and less consistency strike to strike. differences in ball speed and launch are mostly due to differences in loft. t200 will blend really well with t100s too, whereas p790 will be tough to combo. titleist has a real winner this year.
I’ve watched lots of reviews and the P790 is very consistent, and the offset for example the 6 iron is .3 mm different so literally nothing, and I’d say the P790 is way better looking .
I combo with 770 it’s perf
@@Dolfski ya if you’re a good enough ball striker that would be a deadly combo set
@@wnfakind9197 👍👍
P790 is better looking hands down.
P790 looks incredible. Not a huge fan of the “badge” on the back of the T200 but I would give them a try. Hoping we get a new Mizuno HMB for 2022…
Badge may just disintegrate over time..
@@kelvin.008 No one see's the badge at address and when you are hitting the golf ball. Non issue.
The badge is there for a reason and it’s not like you’re ever gonna see It or tap It like stupid mark keeps saying in his reviews
You find the speed pocket attractive?
@@MXJEFF94 if that's your logic, why bother to design the back of a club? Anyway I am saying the foam May disintegrate and affect play.
Just took delivery of my T200’s, though this years model. They look, feel and sound awesome! Tried TM but T200’s felt and sound so much better to me. With Project X LZ shafts - killer….
Love your reviews, and what a silky swing…. 😊👍
Thanks for the great video and comparison!!
I currently use the 2019 P-790’s and I like them, but I’ve always felt I lacked launch.
I know Taylormade are a mid launch iron, vs Titliest or Mizuno being a higher launch.
Anyway, my local club had a Titliest demo day yesterday and I was lucky enough to sneak in and hit the new T-200’s and WOW! What a difference.
I really did not think there would be such a difference in performance.
My launch was off the chart and dispersion was WAY tighter and distances were basically exactly the same.
Needless to say I have a new set of T-200’s being delivered in 30 days.
Thanks again for the video!!
I demo’d the 2021 P790 this week and the shaft makes a huge difference in launch angle
@@robertpoche1585 I definitely agree.
I just figured by the time I paid for a fitting and bought whatever custom shafts I needed to get to where the T-200’s get me I’d probably be knock for knock in price.
All the clubs you review look good to me at set up...behind those shiny new Taylormade balls.
Well done Mike I was hoping that someone would do this H2H comparison👍
Cosmetically they both look pretty stunning, from the back view for me the TM looks cleaner, but at address, the Titleist definitely has the edge, with a thinner top line.
If I was in the market for new Irons I would probably go for a Titleist T100S-T200 combo set, When I tried the original P790's I really struggled with getting a decent ball flight, for some reason because of the low spin I was hitting a lot of low spinning knuckle-balls
Hit both of these yesterday as well as the ping i525. All of them were good but the ping came out top for me.
Good comparison Micheal
Titleist is Def more consistent for the better player
Thanks, Can you compare p770 to new p790 to see how they would combo
Would-be u buy these for 4 handicapper.
Was fitted at the end of August by TM into p790 . Just been told they can’t deliver until mid February. Very disappointed but prepared to wait. Head to head against t200 they felt much softer to me and I hit them better.
It’s the way of the world at the moment unfortunately
why can I not find the exact model of T2 that you are using. It appears to have an adjustable hosel? Loft Lie? Both clubs seem to be adjustable at the hosel? I want!
Those are fitting clubs, so you can change shafts.
Great review Michael...How would you compare the new Titleist T 200 vs the Mizuno jPX 921 Hot Metal Irons????? That would be a good review...Thanks....
I'm doing a combo set with the 4 iron a T200 with a graphite shaft.
You always do such a fantastic job reviewing clubs! I need to book a vacation there!
Thanks so much!
@@MichaelNewtonGolf you are quite welcome. I would love to see you do an instructional series. I really think it could bring you a massive TH-cam crowd like Danny Maude. The nuances of the game are never covered.
I test out the t200 and really like the right dispersion.
Can you test a t200 2021 vs pxg 0311 vs Callaway apex dcb.
Looking to pick up one of the 3 iron sets this month
i have the t200 and the plastic back of the 7 iron has caved outward ..very bad ...hopefully theyll warranty...im houng to trade for the 790's no plastic
Just ordered T200 with graphite tensei shaft, really liked mizuno pro 225 and ping 525 but could not find the right shaft.
T200 felt amazing to strike on order now
Tried both with different shafts (HCP 12). Both felt great. The main difference makes the shaft. Hard to choose one for the moment. I felt maybe a fraction "safer" with the TM. Want to try the Mizuno 225 and the Ping i525 as well.
I like the hosel on the T200 but I do like the Matte/ Satin Finish on the P790 on the front and back giving it a cleaner and more efficient look so the glare from the sun doesn't get you.
Mike would you say either of these would be a "longer" version than my i210s and would either be as F/B consistant and still spin like my i210s or are these common low spin distance clubs?
Thanks for the great video-as usual!
I just collected my t200 irons 4-gw 😍⛳️👍 I’m playing prov1x also
I like the T200 on looks alone.
Wondering if it would be fair to compare the 790's with the T300?
T200 for me. Had the 2019 p790 model and hated them. Hit them great during the custom fit process but get them on the course and you’ll see massive variations in distance - never played so many shots from over the back of the green. You couldn’t say I hit a 7 iron 160 yards with the p790 as one would go 175 then the next would go 160!
Damn! Thats my fear with the p790. Its not worth being able club down if catching a flyer happens every round. I've been playing AP1s for 5 seasons and when I do upgrade, distance dispersing > everything.
Same…I love the t200’s. Best distance control of any irons I’ve owned.
Please could you compare the 2 iron version of each of these models.
Ordered the T200. Amazing iron. Put my blades on the shelf after my fitting. Putting my ego to the side
Yeah I am leaning this way. I am thinking the T100S though. Why did you prefer the T200?
@@jackjames7348 so I tested my current clubs the 620mb blades on GC quad against the T100 and T200. On bad strikes literally the same area. Same swig speed and all. On my blades It was about a 17 yard drop off. On t100 It was like 15 ish. On the T200 It was about 5….. literally only 5 yard drop off in distance… that’s the difference between being in a bunker or water hazard instead of on the green or rough in a layup. That’s huge…. I had to put my ego aside and go with the T200. The fitting doesn’t lie. On days like last week in my tournament where I shot 68 I can play my blades. But then days like yesterday where I shoot an 8 because of ball striking I’m sure the T200 would of saved me at least 5 shots. So ultimately I know the T200 is better. I’ve never played anything else but blades or CBs. But I’m sure I’ll get used to the look of the clubs very fast and the benefit will be there.
@@SwayPromo and did you see a distance difference between your MB and the t100s and t200. I currently am like you playing mizuno half blades half cavity backs. Love the feel. Can get big drop offs. But I also jist want to add an extra club distance.
@@georgyboi6969 not from my mb to T100 but big difference from my MB to T200
@@SwayPromo would you say a full club or only half a club? Thanks for the reply btw
Hit these both and the t200 won by far. Like you I had tighter dispersion with them. Also the p790 was so much more clunky feeling compared to the t200. Noticeably bigger head. Thicker top line. Also the p790 was louder at impact than the t200
Great content Mikey!
Wouldn't the P790's pair up better against the T300's while the Titleist T200's better pair up against the P770's?
No, both are hollow heads, similar lofts, T300 more like SIM iron 👍
Depending upon the lofts of P770, closer to the T100S or T100.
Love the look of the p790
Always enjoy your videos and the head2heads! Do you believe the new Apex irons compared to these two? If so what are you thoughts and opinions on the three of them? Also, maybe another idea for a video. Thanks!
the Titleist looks like it has a "joint" in the hosel and screw in bottom? what is that? adjustable or just change shafts like that?
It’s a fitting head so we can inter change shafts during fits 👍
@@MichaelNewtonGolf thanks.......I was thinking that later and just didn't get back to edit. Thx for video
Thanks for the review. I would be interested to see the T200 and the P790 In comparison to the Apex21 irons. What do you think?
I'll try my best 👍
I got a chance to hit new P790, i got P790 2019 model, i hit them both and the new model seems to get more height and i loose 5 meter distance on the new one.
I see alot of comments about the badging on the T200, but I would be equally concerned about the screw in the P790. Has anyone had any issues with those in previous generations? I am typically not a huge TM fan due to quality issues several years back (specifically the R1 driver), but intend to give them another chance and give these P790 a test. Have a hunch I will end up with the T100s though.
I own the 2019 p790 and Titliest AP3. Went back to AP3 this summer. Regarding the screw...honestly, I never noticed it. They are really visually stunning in the bag. I only switched back bc I had my best season with the AP3's...and got a lil nostalgic for them this year. :)
@@chadode9048 good to hear the screw isn’t a problem. i will try them both and to be honest I am a bit of a Titleist loyalist. I really want something with a forged body not just a forged face. I am leaning Apex or T100-s but may end up doing a combo set. We will see.
@@bwclark174a I love Titliest irons as well. If full forged is your jam...the P790's might underwhelm you a bit. Good luck with search. Iron hunting is my favorite offseason hobby!
@@chadode9048 same here. My search is a bit more urgent this year. My clubs were stolen a couple of months ago and I have a couple of trips planned in 2022. Luckily I still had my old set of Titleist CB16s in the garage to use in the meantime.
Thanks for the side-by-side test, as always. What a difference technology makes. My forged blade 7 iron has a 35.5 degree loft versus the 31 degrees of these. But placement of tungsten and shaving grams here to add them there maintains height and spin while the stronger loft adds yards. And on a personal note, the next time they are looking to cast a new Sir James Bond, you should definitely audition. You'd be perfect, height, looks, accent.
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Do you find 790 more draw biased . Went to fit both struck 790 better but big draw . Hit t200 ok but a lot straighter
I have just been fitted and the p790 came out top. I found the t200 alot heavier than the others
The Titleist looks awesome.
I recently went for an iron set fitting and am faced with a big dilemma between the p790s and t300s the numbers came out identical but the spin rate was a tad higher with the p790s. Any help/advise on which ones to go for would be much appreciated 👌
Probably too late to give you any advice but I'm curious about what/if you decided to go with the Titleist or the Taylormade. Did you pick up a new set?
On my last fitting I was about to order the TM P790's when the fitter asked me to try the Cobra forged tec X's. Well, that was a complete game changer! Stupidly I picked up a 2nd hand set of the standard cobra forged tec's and instantly regretted it. So back on the market ha!
@@nathanblair8883 I think it's really important to find the right shaft when you're looking at a strong lofted iron like the P790 or the Forged tec x. Finding the right shaft can help a lot with trajectory, spin rate and dispersion gaps in the long irons. I work as a fitter and I would want you to try the T200 in addition to the T300. I'd also be curious to see if you liked the Mizuno 225. The T200 would be a great option if you're looking for something you might be able to "grow into" as you get better at ball striking. If you're not able to practice much then maybe the T300 might be a better fit.
@@mikeabel7577 thanks for your advise 👍I'm a 15 handicapper and like to think that my ball striking is good. Like many, during the summer months I regularly get a few 9 hole rounds in a week, then drop off over the winter. I am definitely looking for something that I can improve/progress with but at the same time I still want plenty of forgiveness for those not so good days
Just to I am currently using my cleveland ta6 irons which a 15+ years old now! On fittings that have all said the data from them is pretty good. I also like the cavity back look, which is probably what drawn me to the T300's. So I want something that provide a worthwhile upgrade. All fitters have suggested I go down the players distance iron as apposed to the game improvement
What type player can use these clubs? I’m a 10 hdcp - probably not good enough for blades - would these be okay for me to try?
Absolutely 👍
LOL. 10 handicap? If that is true, you can play any iron. People kill me with this forgiveness crap.
Can the new models adjust the angulation?
Have you ever off-camera gone 5 shots with each club back and forth till you have hit 30+ with each, just 5 each seems a low shot number to conclude a clubs performance?
Good job! Nice review!
First time watching any of your videos. Thanks TH-cam for the reco. I'd advise hitting 5 more shots with each and then dropping the 5 worst hit shots to get a better comparison. You can still make a note later about consistency, if say the T200's all ~12 shots were close, where as say the P790's had larger extremes on the 5 worst struck shots. Otherwise I love the data driven review.
You should compare the Apex 21 vs the TM 790s
I'll try my best 👍
Any new ping irons on the horizon? Seen some pro’s putting a new i59 model in the bag.
yes i59, videos coming in a couple of weeks
Why the switch to Trackman? How do you compare it to your old FS Quad?
I believe he explained his reasons when he moved to his present location about a year ago.
@@JDSFLA hmm I went back and watched it. He doesn’t give a reason for the change of launch monitor. It seems like it maybe just came with the facility.
I think that the category has peaked. All the companies now make great products. I wonder who will come out on top and adjust their pricing accordingly to undercut the others?
The Srixon ZX-5’s are geared towards similar players, are fantastic clubs, and are $200 to $300 cheaper for 4 - PW than either of the sets in the video.
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Both look gorgeous, be tough for me to pick, same at address, Titleist looks cleaner but the satin finish of the Taylor Made says “no glare”. Price point, even. I’ll stick to my Ben Hogans.
I think a great battle would be P790 vs Mizuno JPX 921 HMP . But in this one I like the P790 gorgeous iron.
do most golfers hit 7 iron 175 yards? I don't think so. your assessment makes sense to A grade & pros.
How do you test then……to please everyone I need to swing 60…..65….70….75….80….85…..90…..95….100 mph
Dang Both clubs are beauties 😍 TM for me but I’d be over the moon with either.
Great H2H review Michael. What was printed on the hozzel of the P790? Will that be on all sets or just on the testers?
It’s just on the fitting iron heads
@@MichaelNewtonGolf thank you.
Love ur channel .. Great job .. you have to treat us to an 18 hole golf round !! Lol
P790 is huge definitely blade length and top line .. it’s definitely game improvement and not player distance category anymore
Would love to see 2019 comparison , I know it’s taboo among fitters
That’s where the p770 comes in. Same blade length as the t200
I've already gone the 2019 vs 2021 P790......on my channel now
Buy the Titleist, the P790 was released by TM knowing that their plant was closed due to Covid and there's a good chance now that you will not get delivery until 2022!
I will NOT change irons but man.. these clubs just look great 🤯 luckily my black 699 pro's also look great.
P790 is ridiculously good looking
The back of the p790 definitely looks better
Yeah, awesome!
There’s only one club here. It’s from Titleist
Do you really want one carrying 188 when you rip it?
T200 vs P770 ?
Your p790 carry with the 7 iron is what I get with the 6 iron LOL
Titleist all day
That 790 is an ego iron. “I flew 8 iron 170” … “yeah back bunker.”
Nah it’s a bad ass looking iron that performs excellent.
Would love them in a black finish. I am not a fan of high polish chrome. Too much glare in the sun.