Low Level Laser Therapy For Hair Loss
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2019
- In episode 8 of the podcast, Dr. Vikram Jayaprakash and Dr. Russell Knudsen discuss the role of Low-Level Laser Therapy in the management of male pattern hair loss. We discuss where this fit's in with all treatment modalities and how it should best be used.
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Get you someone who looks at you like how Dr Vikram looks at Dr Russell when he speaks 🥲
They might be secretly lovers...
Only on the weekends when the shots go around
@@hack7aoomen897 lol
@@hmmmhh4257 or non-secretly…
Dr russel looks so beautiful 😊
Amazing channel. Incredibly informative and helpful for me to make informed decisions about what treatment is right for me. Thank you Doctors!
Great job! Appreciate you giving a good review with no links to products
I just want to create this post in hopes it may help others, particularly females with androgenetic alopecia. I was diagnosed with it January of 2022, and purchased the "The Original LaserCap" at the higher end, with 224 laser diodes; the LaserCap HD. Mind you this cap cost me thousands. I used it religiously 3x a week at the same time at every session. I want to tell you that after a year of using it, I noticed NO change, and continue to have shedding. Therefore, no, it does not always work (even expensive ones) for females, or anyone in general, and purchasing this may or may not give you the results you hoped for. Thank you for listening!
thanks! what else did you do alongside LLLT?
That's frustrating! Have you seen success with anything else? Collagen supplements? Tropicals?
Derma roller once a week along with laser helmet every other day helped me get off minoxidil without going through shedding and getting better results
How do you clean the derma roller after each use?
@@DrD3xTeR boiling hot water works and also submerging it in rubbing alcohol
That’s great! Which brand of dermaroller did you use? And what size?
issit painful using derma roller ?
which laser helmet do you use?
Hair Max 272 Flex Cap does a good job. It's on the pricier side but worth the money. My husband and I have been using it for two years and will continue.
I was always skeptical about laser caps but if these guys endorse them, I'm in.
Flavio Sousa I’ve read research papers that have shown this actually works.
Did you try?
@@rajkirannatarajan9276 Kevin Mann pretty much debunks the existing literature - mostly flawed
wtficantgetausername Fair enough. I did post elsewhere in the comments section for another video that the studies were themselves had links to the equipment makers. Either funding or provision of the device. So there is literature that’s published, but there’s reasons to question the experiments.
@@wtficantgetausername he debunks everything apart the big 3
I appreciate all these videos.
Minus their aggressive dismissal of Post-Finasteride Syndrome.
Lifeisgood72 - look at their post-finasteride video, they literally say there are people who have symptoms after discontinuation...
Thank you both for your detailed information on this topic and I truly appreciate you sharing your knowledge to educate your audience.
Does the Laser cap works on CCCAlopecia?
There example on TH-cam of success
Very informative and well done video on this one guys nice job 👍
Thanks for that!
@@TheHairLossShow Hi Vikram - any views on the Hairmax laser band?
Great video guys! I just pulled the trigger on a Capillus 202! I’ll keep ya posted.
Is work?
@@BankSmith I think so man! I’m noticing it’s thicker, but I also started Rogaine at the same time.
@@MrRUGDUDE you use capillus plus right?
@@MrRUGDUDE if i buy only 112 laser it will work?
Hi Dr. Knudsen and Dr. Vikram - informative video as always!
What is your recommended regiment for a cap with total output of 1010mW? I think you mentioned the 3x week, for 30-45min per session, for the 650mW cap in your video. Thanks guys!
Not 650 mW, 650 nm of wavelength of light.
Best hair loss podcast on TH-cam. Thank you! You mentioned 30 min per session 3 times per week. The Rx version of the Capillus is timed at 3 min - which is said by the manufacturer to be sufficient. The model you showed on the pod cast looks the same as mine - therefore that system would have to be cycled 10x per treatment to reach 30 min. The battery is not designed for that amount of time nor do I think the manufacturer recommends it. Could you clarify ?
Perhaps, it's not pulsating light, but provides steady supply, hence shorter amount of time is needed.
Yeah as he mentioned it not pulsing that makse sense as they said in the vedio
Mine pulses and provide a session of 30 min.
@@mahmouds1376 which do you have?
@@mahmouds1376 which model do you have ?
this show is great :D
Can you guys made a video about the difference between beard follicles and hair follicles?
That was a really good tip, towards the end, about catching hair loss early with these sort of treatments, or they will not have a shot at being effective
Can you link the clinical trials?
Fantastic and informative video
Amazing, thanks!
Very helpful. Thanks.
Lazer cap lllt therapy has restored my slightly grey hair to a much richer brown colour! Strange but good 👍
Its strange like how bro i also feel scary cus its working under electric
what model? tks
This is great. Really informative.
Thanks!
@@dominic4661 Nothing can regrow hair. The light at the particular frequency acts to stimulate existing hairs to grow.
@@dominic4661 Which brand did you buy?
@@dominic4661 Thanks a lot! And it still doesn't work for you?
If you use a laser cap, will your hair block the lasers from reaching your scalp? I would expect it to be similar to getting a tan when you go outside on a sunny day. The sunlight would tan your face, but your scalp wouldn't tan because it's blocked by your hair. Do people with a shaved head or buzz cut experience better results from LLLT?
Best u use with short hair as people do
The Hairloss Show Can you do an episode talking about if/how stem cells can be used for hairloss?
Hi
Realistically that’s some way off for the general public.
Thanks for the info about LLLT
Also there is a difference between Diodes & LED and a difference between pulsing and steady light. Also some have red lights mixed with blue lights. So just because someone says it didn't work doesn't really mean much because we have no idea the difference's of success between some and others. I for one don't use a single one of the items they discuss. I use an upright LED red light that designed for the entire body use. To stimulate mitochondrial cell production which is never going to happen using a lasercap.
Hi there,
Are there any particular at home laser caps that you can recommend?
Wonderful explanation, and very professional!
We are the physical therapy lasers factory, and we also have the laser light hair regrowth cap, and also do the ODM and OEM for the some famous brand, I wonder do we have Any chanCe for the cooperation.
I do think this post Transplant would make a huge difference. I was told/read to wait a month after transplant.
So what top 3 caps would you recommend? What are your thoughts on the new Kiierr272Premier Laser Cap?
Can cheaper hair cap systems
be worthwhile? I understand the increased number of laser diodes can have a greater more efficient effect. However, it appears the cap systems which possess an increased number of diodes simply recommend less frequent treatments, with less time for each treatment. Can a cap system with less diodes make up the difference through more frequent, and longer treatments as they often recommend? In other words, can cheaper systems be as effective for the more budget conscious, or is the effectiveness reduced to such a level that it would be wiser to invest in a more expensive system with more diodes?
Very interesting and informative and would be interested in purchasing one but it's a bit of a minefield out there in terms of trying to choose a decent one so I would have liked to have seen a selection of ones you've tested and would recommend?
Interestingly when I for laser hair removal on my bikini line, it stimulated hair on my upper thighs near the bikini area. So i guess it works
Everyone should fin-min-laser-dermaroll for the best regrowth outcomes.
Thank you for this!! There is so much garbage out there by companies who just want to push their products. Can you do a follow-up on which ones you would recommend, specs (i.e. output ranges from 560 mW to 1360 mW and I'm not sure how much difference that makes, the number of lasers, mix of lasers and LEDs like iRestore)?
Hi Vikram can you please give us your top laser tool?
Do you recommend lasers + LED or laser only? Brands like Capillus and Theradome claim laser only is the most effective bc LED light disperses and doesn't penetrate.
Yes do we need a hair cap with LEDs?
Doc, I am looking for a response from you. Does that cap stimulate your edges? The demonstration cap doesn't cover your edges. Which type do you sell? Once again we listened to you can you be polite and answer some of your subscribers questions? Thank you.
Hi - is this therapy useful for LPP / Alopecia ? Has there been any research on this which you can point me to ? Thanks
I hope you'd answer me.
My LLLT helmet's specifications are: laser count 80. wavelength 678nm. power input 100-240v 50Hz/60Hz. power output 5V dc / 1.5A. operation temperature 60-90 F, RH 80%
This is what it says on the box, is it good?
Brilliant video, thank you. I am v reluctant to use Fin. Considering I have hair remaining on top, despite being thin, could laser in theory be as effective as Fin for preventing further loss. Just had hair transplant but is it naive to expect good results without Fin in mix.Thanks very much.
Do you have a view on whether LED can be as effective as laser in delivering results?
Kindly make a video on lifestyle changes (diet, exercise etc.) you'd like to recommend for those suffering from hairloss. That'd be very helpful coming from you two. Thanks.
Duh isnt it obvious how to be healthy anyone can do it if they want to!
@@matta8359 There's a reason I didn't ask from an online troll but from doctors. "Healthy" means a million things and there are specifics to be talked about. Sit down.
@@jiteshjaggi6504 I stand by my comment. It's so obvious.
@@jiteshjaggi6504 not really, it's just getting about 150 mins of steady state cardio per week, optimizing your sleep, minimizing your stress, eating a nutrient dense diet with adequate protein and healthy fats, keep away from processed foods and ensure you're getting enough potassium and magnesium to offset sodium, which shouldn't be overdone but also shouldn't be avoided, blood work is the only surefire way to tell if you're deficient in any micronutrients so consult with your doc. Healthy relationships and social life are essential for happiness, and resistance training a couple times a week is tremendous for bone density and general health. Easy peasy once you've done a little research on some of these subjects, I'd recommend some Andrew Huberman for happiness tools, Rhonda Patrick for nutrient info, mike Israetel or Jeff nippard for fitness related questions.
@@rockyevans1584 Appreciate it, Rocky. I'll check those people out you mentioned.
Hello Doctor Russell Knudsen, which LLLT Cap do you sell in your practice and do you have a website for me to purchase it? I live in the US
Do you know if the irestore laser helmet is worth buying?
I spent $1400 on my lazer cap and it works great. I noticed my hair was turning light brown and not growing on top. I started to use this lazer cap from irestore . The thing I noticed first was the color of my hair getting dark and thick. After a year use it stabilized my hair ..so then I added supplements to my routine. I've been able to bring back 40% of my hair and I'm not balding anymore.
are you using any meds like finasteride or minoxidil?
@@niconick2881 no.. I've been taking reishi mushroom 3 times a day.saw palmeto ,beta sterols,plus a sporebiotic. I also recently added reviv serums and dermarolling to my routine I'll let you know how it works.
@@denislabelle3853, that's great, but you have no idea if the cap is doing anything; the results could very well be coming from any of the medications, probably mostly from saw palmetto intake.
@@dominic4661 ya it will bro - fin is just more powerful .. if u want to be lazy and risk the side effects then do it
@@dominic4661 who's saying a laser cap will block dht kid ?
Thank you!
So theoretically, would you say that for someone who was a Norwood 6/7 and has had transplants to cover this loss, could LLLT be used as a treatment modality to use ongoing in order to strengthen those grafts (transplanted hair) for the long term against senile alopecia? Thank you for sharing!
Hey very good video! Thank you so much! I want to try this therapy definitely. I am only 23 years old, but I lost 50% of my hair when I grew up due to sports and also emotional stress. I am glad that I discovered your video!
Hey same age and boat as you! Have you tried anything to combat it? How's it going?
@@mmarg96 Hey Maegan, yes, I bought a laser cap four months ago (in China) and started using it since then. I do spot very good results, the first two weeks, my hair loss was way less! I have more volume, my hair is thicker and more luscious after using it for four months. Though I haven't fully recovered my volume of childhood, I would say I get my pride back! My friends have complimented my hair many times in the past couple of months. There are a couple other things I do along with using hair laser cap, I use rice water to rinse my hair a few times a week ( to add shine to your hair), I massage my scalp also two or three times in a week. My hair is stronger and thicker. In addition, I rinse my hair every time after sweating a lot from exercise with just clear water and only use shampoo every two days.
@@bridgeternity9025 So happy to hear that! Thanks for replying and I'll definitely keep the laser cap in my options should things get worse on my end (hopefully not!). Been trying dermarolling, scalp massages, and oils in the meantime. Hope the improvements continue for you!
@@bridgeternity9025 Hi, glad to hear it work for you. Btw, what is the name brand of the laser hat that u bought??
@@hugejackman1427 Bought it in China, it is not a famous brand here...
Hi docs. Please do recommendations good brands for LLLT caps. I'm not sure which one I should get, given the cost i want to make sure I'm getting a right one that works. Please help.
Have you guys reviewed iRestore brand? Is it good? Thanks.
Could you please comment on the effectiveness are on the hairline regrowth?
so if trying a lesser quality/cheaper (bulb in my case), would there be any problems caused to use it every day?
Where can we find any study about efficiency of LLT?:) Especially in long term.
Hi Dr Vikram and Dr Russell. Can you please explain to us the difference between FDA cleared and FDA approved products? And is LLLT FDA approved?
It's quite an easy internet search. I think cleared means it is safe to use, and approved means it works.
So do you have to use this cap forever or is there a point where you could stop using it.
Unless you get stay serum forever
Which is the best stimulant therapy out of min, laser and prp? If used as a standalone treatment
I think get a omg laser helmet thats what I use just started a week ago.. his helmets are alot more but definitely more powerful.. look him up overmachogrande.. but what I'm doing now is 30 mins laser then rite after going to the mirror use a dermroller then wait 5 mins and apply minox..
Which LLLT hat do you recommend? which one is FDA approved? not FDA cleared
What do you think of this device Revian?
I have been having a laser treatment in a salon which I paid a lot of money for. I’m also using minoxidil twice a day. Which they told me to do. I think there is an improvement. So I would like to get a similar machine at home. Can you recommend one I’m in the UK? And how do I know if it’s the minoxidil or the laser that has improved my hair loss? Do I have to keep doing both of them for the rest of my life? Many thanks
Hoping to get an answer here, I am all in to buy the 272 diode laser cap but this 1 question always keep coming up, as this treatment is never ending, can these red light lasers cause any kind of cancer cell production to the body, with this kind of use (30 mins every other day for years and years), please help, Is there any study suggesting this ?
Seems like they’ve resolved their differences
Hey there! I love your show and I've watched quite a few episodes. I've had a FUE transplant (12k grafts) and I'm currently using a topical Min/Dut/Tret/Biotin. I've recently been looking more into an LLLT helmet and I've also come across a "modulated light therapy" cap.
Q: Do you believe there is credibility to modulated light therapy? Or should I instead stick to LLLT?
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@Austin Biggs handsome ❤
Holy shit dude 12k i’ve never heard of that many. How’s it going now and how much did that cost!
Is Theradome a good one ? Any experience with that here ?
Hi, which cap would you recommend that omits the most energy and creates the most stimulation?
Hi, did you have laser therapy cap?
iRestore
Please talk about exosomes for hairloss
My Hairmax comb says to use it only 11 minutes, 3 times a week. Wondering now if I should be using it for 30-40 minutes like the docs recommend.
Have result?
Good day. Can we combined fenasteride, dermaroller and minoxidil with lllt?
Yes, adding all together will stimulate everything as best it can.
Would heat build up in the cap be good because it helps bring blood to the scalp, if it doesn't bother you?
its the leds that emit less light in a high ambient temperature environment.
Does it matter how long your hair is? If it's too long, perhaps the laser cannot penetrate through to the scalp?
Nice video doc. I just bought one of these laser hats.
WHich brand did you go for?
@@johndupont8596 Thermadome
Phil Chadwick thanks! Did you see any results?
@@Halbared Did you see any results?
@phil chadwick does it work? :)
Can you recommend me a good brand? I was thinking about Kiierr? Is it a good brand? Thank you
Can you mix micro needling and laser therapy? Or is that too much for the skin?
I hear that studies or going mixing with both Micro & laser therapy.
How about
Minoxidil Plus Dutasteride Plus microneedle Plus Low Laser Therpay
Or
Dutasteride Plus Finasteride Plus natural dht blockers Plus microneedle Plus topically applied monoxidill and topical finasteride and LLLT
Plus Ru58841 and biotin and multi vitamin and Hair bands for scalp tension and dht blocker shampoo and Nizoral
This is what it feels like when you type into google “hair loss therapy”
That’s a quadruple nuclear effect in no time you’ll have hair like joseph Stalin
Hello. Can the cap be used during pregnancy? Also, I have the iRestore cap. What are your thoughts on this one? Is it as effective as the one you show in the video?
Hi. Did you get good results with the iRestore cap? Was thinking about buying one. Thanks
@@kcalderon03 Hi there. It did help make my hair softer and fall out a bit less. I’ve heard people say it makes it thicker as well. I did see some improvement but Im not 100% sure if it was due to the Irestore cap. It might be worth a try but I wouldn’t expect miracles. Hope that helps.
@@rayak7071 its works well on me, I have been using iRestore Pro for 6 months now and my hair thickness is significantly improved. The hair volume needs more time to tell, though falls out much less after shedding.
@@Albion101 I'm 3 weeks in and I'm shedding a fair bit. How long did your shedding last at first?
I’ve seen laser bands that claim only 90 sec 3x/week is their treatment recommendation. Like the HairMax LaserBand 82. They say the lesser treatment time is due to the fact that the device has a comb that actually parts the hair out of the way so it can reach the scalp, so less time needed. Do you believe this is substantiated?
I am not a big fan of the combs. 90 secs x3 per week sounds a little too good to be true.....
Should you take finasteride at the same time? or does it do the same thing without the side effects
They work in completely different ways and can be used together
Hi I'm 53 with miled hairloss and have been on fanasteride for a year. If I come off fanasteride for a month to have a routine prostate check am I lively to lose my hair?
Does it go through shredding phase like minoxidil?
Question for Dr Vikram where we can get the brand you are demonstrating in this video. I am reluctant to trust other brands. Pls let us know. What do you think of brand capillus or irestore, kiier,
Please let us know. I questioned earlier but no response from you.
Hey guys great videos! Recently bought a hairmax hairband 82, where the vendor advised me against buying a (more expensive) lasercap by the rationale the hairband has a toothcomb separation built within allowing greater penetration to the scalp comparative with the cap, where relatively thick medium length hair will block penetration from the cap to the scalp. Is this valid, or are you guys definitely of the opinion lasercaps are superior?
That should be fine. All the best.
Did it work?
Hi Ajay, did it work?
any Updates? Does it work? Thank you :)
How'd you go Ajay mate? Still alive there mate???
Does this device do anything in the way of preventing or treating actinic keratosis on the scalp?
Which brand of laser cap to use?
Hi guys, I have looked at the irestore as it has some good reviews. Is this something you could or are able to endorse? The reason I ask is that it is ‘lot of money and more importantly time to lose on the wrong product. Thanks again for your very well covered and reassuring videos.
Did you go for it?
John Dupont hi I didn’t get the iresore i got a second hand capillus cap off eBay, I’ve been using it for 3 mo this and guess what! It works. Honestly I have thicker hair, my fringe has started to get sort off fluthy hair at the side, and it feels thicker when I’m washing it. It is so far so good, I’m hoping it keeps getting thicker, my wife is sceptical hair dressser, and even she is impressed.
Thank for asking
@@bobbymac1319 Thanks a lot for your answer! Really helpful? Do you use any other treatment? like finasteride or minoxidil?
Congrats and good luck!
John Dupont hi, no I’m thinking about it, but wanted to see if lllt was working first👍
@@bobbymac1319 Hey! How's the Capilus cap going on now? Are you doing anything else aside from it?
Hi, thank you very much for all the information. I have one question. I perform microneedling on my scalp once a week. It is ok to combine LLLT with microneedling? I will highly appreciate your response. Thanks
Yes
Does the Laser Theraphy damages my eyes during the application? Because ultra violet rays from the laser goes directly perpendicular to the eyes during the application athough it uses very minimal current ampere rating.
@Samuel Fernandes no
I bought one from China 2 months ago and it arrived today. Looking fwd to noticing results!
How is it going with it?
Hi I also did . I probably am paranoid but the one I had was 678nm and the power out put was 1.5A / 5V .
I get concerned that what if it is ablasive and Act as hair removal laser .
Which one did you get ?
Can you provide a link of where you got it?
Zainab Ahmed please try AliExpress. There are multiple options there
Is iRestore good? Does it give the correct type of light?
Are there any indicators we can look for to know if a cap is good quality or not? Such as number of laser, laser/LED combos, specific LED wavelength or laser power classification?
Did you find any?
You don’t want LED you want medical grade laser diode caps
I also would like to know
Yes. So the higher end models have around 272 individual laser diodes. They sell them a bit cheaper with about half the lasers. Do not get the LED ones. The power is about the same amongst the higher end models. I have a 272 Kiierr that I have been using for about 2 months now.
Why not the LED ones?
How would I know if the lasers/ diodes are correct ? I.e I don’t want the lasers in the helmet to effectively be hair removal.
I have 678nm helmet 272 diodes the power output 5V/1.5A
Studies shown usage upto 6 month . Any idea on safety in terms of adverse effects of llt when used beyond 6 months or continued usage .
Hello Doctors, I dont wash my hair everyday can I use these helmets on days when you dont have washed you hair? I have the IRestore Pro. It says 25min, is it better to use it up to 45min?
Have you seen results with it ?
@@taew89 Yes, i m losing less hair generally and I grew more hair on areas where I could see my scalp through
How soon did you see results?
@@stefanieblanche2748 Hi, I was wondering if you are happy with your irestore helmet? I am thinking about buying one and would love to hear about your experience and how long you use it for. Choosing which one to purchase is so confusing... Many thanks in advance, Antonia
@@frankiehynes9547 Hello, yes I m still happy with the Irestore Pro. I still use it every other day for 25minutes. There are times I forget about it. But the first year you should really use it every 2 days.I really got fuller hair and it filled the sparse areas. Last year I got covid I lost a lot of hair due to high fever but now with the irestore I can see how it regrows again. But the results for me are not dramatic like I didnt went from my low density hair to the fullest amount of hair but I think it really depends on your type of hair loss. For me the results are good as I have a thyroid hormonal problem so I think for people with androgenic hair loss or due to stress it should be more effective than with a thyroid problem. Oh and my husband uses it also with ne his results are better cause he does not have a medical problem its just to prevent hair loss and he got really full hair with it
Does more diodes mean better? What is the minimum fo d it to be effective?
Does the amount of laser matter in these caps? Is more really better ?
How will you know they are using high quality diodes?
Thanks
Wonder if this works on eye brows and eye lashes. Obviously you have to protect the eye, but they make eye protection that goes underneath the eyelids.
I used iRestore for close to 8 months.
I saw no difference. The difference I noticed was that it made each of my hair to prevent from falling. I sometimes would scratch my scalp and will see a lot of hair falling off.
After the 8 months of wearing the helmet, I scratched my scalp and noticed no hair fell off my head.
It did not make my hair grow but made it more resilient. Of course I am also over 55 years old so that could also be a factor.
any Updates? Does it work? Thank you :)
You said its recommended 30 min for the lesser product. For a hat at the $1000 range with 300 diodes whats the recommend usage? Still 30 min?
I have been used for over 3 mos, didn’t see result yet. As you said it took much long time to see the result, I may come back to put my review after 6mos.
Thanks! 👍
Lord Z Roger : some baby hair showed on my forehead now , I also use minoxidil at same time, so not sure which one brought this little result.
Good Customer : not big change, but do see some baby hair.
@@maggiezhu2087 thank you for updating
Can we get an update again. Thanks man.
khalid5d3 : please see my update which I post on today, result is good on minoxidil, not laser cap
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can you recommend a specific brand or model?
Does the number of diodes make a difference? Like 85 vs. 272?
Yes, the more lasers the better coverage and better effects, this one has 272
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I used my first pay check on the laser hair max comb. Used it for 2 years religiously every other day. Zero results
Did it stop or slow down the progression of your hair loss? Or did your hair loss continue to progress when you used the laser comb for two years?
@@dualscreengrant that was almost 13 years ago so it’s hard to remember . But I have hair loss still and it’s progressed
Seems very strange that you kept using it after you saw no results after 7 months or so.
@@markgoodwin183 it was from my hard earned money. Wanted to give it a fair chance