I've been running my PC with no monitors for over a year now and it's totally life changing. People don't realize that not only do you have the ability to spawn as many monitors as you want in VR, but you can view them from whatever position is most comfortable, almost eliminating the neck and back pain of being seated at a desk for hours at a time.
@@karlschleifenbaum5793 That sounds incredible! How do you maintain productivity with both the keyboard and mouse while staying equally comfortable, though?
Yea is possible since the real bottleneck is the lack of compelling games and softwares. I get that is hard to make a softwares for vr/ar since is highly advanced compare to old flatscreen and company think is too risk to invest in it
Been using immersed everyday for my work around 10+ hours for around 3 months now. You just need a good headstrap and with a powerbank or something on the back of your head for weight distribution. It does take some "getting used to", but after about a week, it gets really comfortable for long working sessions without any eye strain or anything. Oh! And get a charger with a long usb cable for continuous power...
Hell yeah, mate! Thanks! I've had a Kiwi head strap before for my Quest 2, but I never bothered buying another strap for my Quest 3 since I like lying down without anything poking the back of my head. But as you said, for working long sessions on an app like Immersed, another strap could come in handy.
Same here about immersed. Work an 8+ hour work day every day in immersed for a couple months now. I just use the default head strap because it’s super light and have my Quest plugged in the whole time. After work, if I still play or do anything else, I have a BoboVR strap with external batteries I’ll use.
@@enrothable Not really. My PC has a good video card but my laptop is just a basic $600-700 laptop with an integrated video card and it works just fine on both machines
To address the head strap discomfort, I added the Bobo VR M3 head strap. I removed the facial interface allowing the headset to float in front of my face. I prefer passthrough most of the time so this feels most natural as it allows me better peripheral vision. I have three batteries with two on the charging dock allowing me uninterrupted work and game play. The longest session so far has been 14 hours. Eye fatigue is possibly due to the focal point as you mentioned. I have a set of contact lenses specifically for VR with a prescription moving the focal point from about 1.3 - 1.5m to close of infinity. I've found with this setup my eyes don't get tired with prolonged use and the halo style strap is very comfortable for extended use. The batteries at the back do a great job of balancing the weight. With immersed it helps to have a proper GPU. On my gaming laptop I have a 4080. I don't seem to notice any performance degradation with virtual screens added. With my work laptop which has an on board Intel graphics chip every virtual monitor adds significant CPU load and as such I use a dummy HDMI dongle for the second screen. Gaming is great on the Quest, except for latency sensitive games. On Fortnite the latency is significant enough that I prefer to play on my 16 inch laptop screen. For most other games the latency is low enough that I don't notice it. I use both Virtual Desktop (best for gaming) and Immersed (best for productivity) and then also have Fluid for on the go connectivity in the cloud.
@@Calbac-Senbreak Compared with a traditional large monitor the Quest 3 uses a lot less power for a much larger display. I'd be surprised if Quest 3 usage makes any noticeable difference in the electricity consumption.
Totally, original strap does not feel that bad until you try third party options like bobo vr or alternatives, and then try the original strap again. The original strap is ok for occasional VR use, some short gaming sessions. But then it starts to hurt, neck, face, forehead. With another head mount I can be in VR for hours without requiring a break.
An update to my original comment, I've subsequently abandoned Immersed on my work laptop. The performance impact was just too great on the severely under powered laptop even with just one monitor. I've switched to HDMI Link for the work display as most of the time I only need the one screen, just larger and further away from my eyes. For gaming I've been experimenting and come to the conclusion that the only two pieces of software capable of streaming with low enough latency are Parsec and Moonlight (with Sunlight as the streaming server). With this setup I can stream from my Linux and windows gaming laptops with excellent latency and graphics performance at 120 Hz. I now play all my games in the headset including Fortnite. For me the headset has completely replaced the need for a large physical monitor. The only update I am still planning is an IP KVM for the work laptop so I can go completely wireless again.
@@unorthodox5171 Straight from several eye care sites. "Screen use can disrupt your natural blink rhythm. Remember to blink regularly to keep your eyes moist and avoid dry eyes."
A week ago i have start using VD with 2 virtual desktops, the reason was that i want to buy new monitor, so i wanted to try if my laptop can handle wide screen resolution in games 3440x1440. Long story short, after 1 week of using Quest 3 and VD (in passthrough) i have decided that i dont need a new monitor. I am perfectly happy using this without physical monitor. 👍
Sadly artificially limited to 2 monitors on Quest 2 and 3 monitors on Quest 3. When I was using Immersed, I had all of my 4 monitors in VR on the Quest 2 and it was as crisp as Virtual Desktop is (better than SteamVR, Bigscreen Beta and Oculus Link). However Immersed removed the physical display functionality, basically ruining the program for me - now it asks you to UNPLUG YOUR MONITORS if you have more than 1 physical monitor connected. So basically there is no way for me to have a bunch of physical monitors in VR, bummer.
@@krissythecatboi yeah, this is the whole reason I stopped using immersed. I have two physical monitors and a virtual wide screen driver that pretends to be a connected monitor. At least now I can use them in Virtual Desktop. To me, 3 monitors are more than enough, but I know there are use cases that need more screens.
I bought my Q3 a few days ago. Im using immersed, this combo is the best ever. Now i can sit in what ever position i want, i can choose how many screens i want, i can set resolution i can set the size its so awesome. I can never go back to starring into a regular screen agien.
You CAN use multiple monitors on Virtual Desktop (maybe you couldn't before) and what I like is that you can change the resolution of the virtual monitors, I usually play games on an ultrawide screen and enjoy my time.
You need to get a battery strap which is more comfortable than the stock strap. The BoBoVR S3 is generally considered to be the best one. I work in Immersed every day with my Quest 3 & MacBook Pro M3. It works very well, & Immersed tracks & displays my Apple Wireless Keyboard without using the portal function.
i got your problem too. too much pressure on the face area ,so i bought the sonicgrace head strap with battery. i have used for a month its totally decrease the pressure and increase the battery life .its a nice improve experience for me.
How did you disable hand tracking in Virtual Desktop? I've tried on my headset, but the software keeps switching it back on. It makes working with keyboard and mouse impossible, yet I saw in your video you did it with no problems.
Meta quest 3 is a great accesible mainstream device, especially for people new to VR, but the resolution is not quite good enough at this point in affordable devices. Maybe in another 3 to 5 years .
I don't understand why the keyboard and mouse needs to be paired with the headset - everything is happening in the PC, so surely the mouse and keyboard need to be connected to that? WHy would there be any lag?
Depends on what your motives are. If you work remotely somewhere outside your house, you can connect it directly to your headset and use your PC that way in your headset. Otherwise it's of course adviceable to connect it directly to your PC for minimal lag/latency.
Definitely sharp enough. It's the weight mostly. However, a lot of people are going to complain about eye strain in the coming years. So we're definitely getting there, but not quite yet.
You can't, because windows runs the app, though how would you even install and sign in to a client on it without a monitor or start your computer remotely? Only real option is to leave the computer running and just disconnect the single monitor if you want. Alternatively, you can set up the pc to do facial recognition sign in or even auto sign in, which fairly insecure but you would have to be at your computer anyways just to turn it on.
I stopped using my quest 2 because it wouldn't allow me to use it as a fixed screen without a virtual environment or even move the virtual screen up in said environment so no lying down allowed. Did they finally update that or is this a Quest 3 exclusive?
Your dad dropping the controller on the floor had me smiling! Awesome video! I have now subscribed! I might get a Meta Quest 3 after watching this video.
Using all these apps which is best for low latency daily work. not for gaming but for trading stocks or crypto? is it best to run multiple monitors with immerse or does it lag and what bout clarity is Virtual pc better for detailed work with one monitor? over immerse 5 monitor setup?
I use immersed for a multiple monitor setup and virtual desktop for somewhat better visual clarity. But all depends on how good your network is, of course. A Wifi 6 router is a must for it to work smoothly.
I'm a VR Channel and VR Headsets are way too heavy still and still cause way too much face Stress to even be considered to use as a Normal Monitor. VR Headsets are still at the stage of use only for VR games. For everything else they cause too much Face Stress due to the weight on your Face.
Your description of what the resolution of the virtual monitor looks like in the VR headset is the answer I have been seeking. I do not own a VR headset yet and have been looking at getting the Meta Quest 3 when I finally have enough extra money now that the headsets have gotten better and cheaper. I want one for VR gaming (especially Cyberpunk 2077) and maybe even watching movies or TV. However, my concern for movie watching is about the resolution difference in the headset compared to an actual physical TV or monitor. Sure you can make a movie as big as a theater-sized screen in VR. However, the resolution of the headset will cause pixels to be stretched to fit smaller sizes and pixel densities. In other words, I know full well that running in 4K on a TV and actually having that 4K fill that number of pixels. Will not look the same on a screen in a VR headset. It will be altering the original 4K image to fit in a smaller number of pixels. And I had yet to hear anyone put it in terms a tech person like myself can comprehend. The between 720p and 1080p appearance you say it gets close to isn't bad. Not as good as 4K of course. But that can often look good enough to be overlooked depending on what it is. Especially for older non-4K movies and shows. I am curious about the 3D movie experience too. How will the Avatar movies look if I can get them playing in 3D on it for example? Side note, I am planning to eventually connect a VR headset directly to my gaming PC once I build my next one for the increased options and visuals. So I am curious if that will improve it too. I've also heard you need Wifi6e or Wifi7 to get the best results. I am excited to tinker with all this stuff once I can finally get it though.
In my opinion depends on your monitor. My laptop screen, vr can replace that all day long. My msi meg 36" curved ultra wide quantum dot oled 175hz refresh rate 1440p (wish it was 4k) monitor? Not a chance. Not even close
Does anyone know if this could help with legal blindness? I recently found out i am losing my eyesight to an extent. Like 20/400 range, and i really don’t want to lose my job when it begins to affect me on that level.
I mean, you can definitely size up the screen and bring it closer if that helps seeing things better but other than that, it's just a window in a virtual space.
@@reality-riseInterested in this as well see i also have legal blindness. A big issue I had with Quest 2 is that the window couldn't come close enough to see well and on many apps couldn't be adjusted at all. I had to physically walk up to the window if it let me and struggle to make out words. Quest 2 had essentially no accessibility settings.I am interested in using it, but struggle to justify the cost if they can't let me change windows and text size as much as I want and let me get as close to the windows as I want or at the very least have a magnifier utility.
Hi, thanks for this video. I'm trying to choose between VR headset and glasses. Can you compare this set-up vs using XR glasses (probably Rayneo, but any recognised brand like Xreal or whatever).
The RayNeo XR glasses are lightweight and great for streaming and basic AR stuff on the go, while the Meta Quest 3 is more of a powerhouse for full-on VR and AR with better tracking and performance. RayNeo’s easy to use and good for media, but the Quest 3 is perfect if you're looking for more immersive games and interactive experiences.
abi seni kaç zamandır takip ediyorum. bu videoda fakr ettim ailenin evinde TV'de haberler olunca Türk olduğunu. Türkiyeden VR gözlükler için oyun geliştiren bir stüdyodan selamlar 👋
Buy some comfortable headstrap instead of this default panties string. I have bobovr holo headstrap with their battery and additional 20000 mAh powerbank. I just finished playing 12 hours game session and i don't have any problems with headset or comfort. Immersed is good app when you figure out their controls and settings. For example you can turn off and on fingers tracking by touching your ring finger with thumb. But immersed audio streaming and some video streaming like TH-cam are bad.
Immersed have a better quality than vd but there is a trick. If You have 1080p monitor will gave You that resolution inside immersed but if your pc is connected to 4k monitor then it will give You 4k resolution in immesred (its not native 4k but something between 2k and 4k) but anyway thats the solution and working on immersed its much better now
@@reality-rise Hi, very interesting, I would like to use meta quest 3 for normal productivity (office 365, big queries in powerbi, some 3d modelling in sketchup and revit) no games, wen I'm not in office and I don't have 2 or 3 screens that I need. I wonder if I really need a laptop with an Nvidia GPU to do this (like said on meta website). I'm trying to use meta quest 3 on my samsung book with intel xe graphic (that by himself performs perfectly all 3d and queries) but I cannot use air link (doesn't even start) but only immersed agent but it is a mess, very nice view but the mouse is unusable. So I think I will change laptop, but I really don't like laptop with nvidia because they are too heavy. I would like to stay around 2.000€ not to much over. If you can help me it would be great: do I really need an NVIDIA GPU even if I don't play games to work with Meta quest 3?
See it like this, in essence you're deploying two monitors at once at a certain resolution. If it comes to 3D graphics, I would always advice looking into some sort of dedicated GPU like Nvidia or AMD. The takeaway is, how many screens do you need in the app (which is multiplied by 2 since your Quest renders both eyes) and at what resolution are you going to render them? On top of that, the 3D work you're performing will be additional energy cost so take that into account.
@@reality-rise so my laptop works because has "only" 2 monitors (the laptop screen and the 32'' external monitor) while with Meta it should run 2+2 in meta plus his monitor and it is not capable without a nvidia? thanks
Yes, for the remote session, your PC needs to be on and connected to your network. I use a Wifi6 connection, and it's directly connected with an ethernet cable.
thanks for your video. do you have tested this with a remote desktop setup? What i mean is, your PC is at home and you are lets say in a coworking space and want to connect with your iphone with remote desktop to you pc. but instead of your iphone you now want to use your quest.
I see what you mean, if you download the APK for remote desktop as a third party and install it that way on your quest, it might work but the UI and usability will be worse since the design is for Android phones. I would instead recommend using Virtual Desktop as a means to connect to your PC.
Merhabalar mert bende virtual desktop kullanıyorum çalışırken çok faydası oluyor ancak benim 3 tane monitörüm var ancak virtual desktop içinde 2 tane monitör koyabiliyorum 3. monitörü koyamamaktayım bununla ilgili nasıl bir çözüm üretebilirim (Hello Mert, I also use Virtual Desktop, and it's very useful while working. However, I have three monitors, but within Virtual Desktop, I can only set up two monitors, and I'm unable to add the third one. How can I find a solution for this issue?)
bad idea, i will never replace my pc monitor with vr ,, im not going to be having a vr headset straped on my face 24/7 So my pc monitor will always be my only pc monitor.
Doesn't the Immersed app have a sketchy T&C's User content section 3.2: "3.2. You hereby grant (and you represent and warrant that you have the right to grant) to Company an irrevocable, nonexclusive, royalty-free and fully paid, worldwide license to reproduce, distribute, publicly display and perform, prepare derivative works of, incorporate into other works, and otherwise use and exploit your User Content, and to grant sublicenses of the foregoing rights, solely for the purposes of including your User Content in the Site. You hereby irrevocably waive (and agree to cause to be waived) any claims and assertions of moral rights or attribution with respect to your User Content."
Unfortunately the latest update to the agent ruins Immersed for anyone who has multiple physical monitors. Not only does it not show multiple physical monitors inside the app, it straight up tells you to unplug them rather than showing one physical and x virtual. Was using it just fine with two physical and two virtual prior. There's also allegations they're removing any posts pointing this out/critical of this from their official Subreddit and Discord, though I have not confirmed these allegations for myself.
no. gaming-monitor graphics are waaay better than VR displays.. AND VR displays need to reach opp to 100 PPD to match a gaming monitor. that will be around 10-15 years
It matters little when gaming for me. I have a qd oled monitor at 34 inches, but for some games such a mortal kombat its cool to play it on a huge virtual screen
It will always lag behind dedicated monitors for the simple reason being that it is smaller, and unless the monitor window fills the entire screen, it, by definition, won't have as many pixels and won't have the same response time because unlike a monitor, you can do more than just view the window from one specific angle or size so there is more processing involved.
Why in the world are you wearing the original Quest 3 strap? That’s the type of hardware that should be burned on day one. I wear Meta Quest 3 8 hours a day for work - comfort requires a new strap like BoboVR or the like.
Totally with you haha but I actually liked being able to lie down without something poking my head on the back. I recently received a headstrap from a company which I will do a review on and will use it on a day-to-day basis.
@@reality-rise You’re definitely my type I’m a web developer, excited to explore how Meta Quest 3 might enhance my workflow with it’s multi monitor support via virtual desktop or immersed. Have you found the most comfortable setup, besides a lap desk, for using a keyboard and mouse while lying down on bed with the Meta Quest 3 on?
I think once ai gets fully sorted there will be no need for monitors every game might be playable on every platform and the ai will sort your visual problems out
Reasons? I've used both virtual desktop and Immersed from time to time while working (3d animation). I did it when my back was bothering me and I didn't have access to a sit/stand desk. It worked pretty well.
@@coolmacatrain9434 Yeah, you might be right there. Its plauged by lack of AAA games right now. And the visual fidelity isn't perfect yet...not enough pixel density and still annoying light leakage, but for most things those are minor issues. Plus a good portion of people just feel stupid wearing a VR headset.
@@toututu2993 i have a nice strap but it's still not comfy to have a huge thing on your head for a long time. it it were more like the size of glasses I'd consider it for workstation.
Man why the hell are u tortureing yourself without 3r party headstrap or addon ?! U dont even have hair so the plastic at the back must be biting into your skull... There are super cheap (under 10euro) silicone head rests that make world of difference.
I know man haha but I had the BoboVR headstrap back with my Quest 2. I actually like being able to lie down without something digging into the back of my head. Will probably buy a decent headstrap in the near future for playing standing games.
I've been running my PC with no monitors for over a year now and it's totally life changing. People don't realize that not only do you have the ability to spawn as many monitors as you want in VR, but you can view them from whatever position is most comfortable, almost eliminating the neck and back pain of being seated at a desk for hours at a time.
What headst and software are you using? I want to try this too
@@karlschleifenbaum5793 That sounds incredible! How do you maintain productivity with both the keyboard and mouse while staying equally comfortable, though?
The problem is that you have a giant weight on your head that's fairly warm.
@@Xialoh Bro the quest 3 weighs 1 pound lmfao
hey, i want to do something smiliar, can i use it as a fullscreen monitor? i want to game with it and just want to see the game on my PC :)
I feel like VR is going to be huge in 10 years from now
Yea is possible since the real bottleneck is the lack of compelling games and softwares. I get that is hard to make a softwares for vr/ar since is highly advanced compare to old flatscreen and company think is too risk to invest in it
NOPE SOONER THAN THAT..ITS JUST ONE APP AWAY
Same!
That’s what we all thought 10 years ago lol Without proper locomotion that isn’t jank and take up a bunch of space it will not be mainstream.
@@Crittek but its already getting more mainstream it wil now be more used for ar with apple coming into the industry
Been using immersed everyday for my work around 10+ hours for around 3 months now. You just need a good headstrap and with a powerbank or something on the back of your head for weight distribution. It does take some "getting used to", but after about a week, it gets really comfortable for long working sessions without any eye strain or anything. Oh! And get a charger with a long usb cable for continuous power...
Hell yeah, mate! Thanks! I've had a Kiwi head strap before for my Quest 2, but I never bothered buying another strap for my Quest 3 since I like lying down without anything poking the back of my head. But as you said, for working long sessions on an app like Immersed, another strap could come in handy.
Same here about immersed. Work an 8+ hour work day every day in immersed for a couple months now. I just use the default head strap because it’s super light and have my Quest plugged in the whole time.
After work, if I still play or do anything else, I have a BoboVR strap with external batteries I’ll use.
Do you need a good video card for immersed?
@@enrothable Not really. My PC has a good video card but my laptop is just a basic $600-700 laptop with an integrated video card and it works just fine on both machines
Dear, do you suggest a particular VR headset to work with multiple monitors?
this is the only usercase. Imagine unlimited monitors, moving them around as u like, zoom in zoom out. Limitless Whiteboard. Damn
To address the head strap discomfort, I added the Bobo VR M3 head strap. I removed the facial interface allowing the headset to float in front of my face. I prefer passthrough most of the time so this feels most natural as it allows me better peripheral vision. I have three batteries with two on the charging dock allowing me uninterrupted work and game play. The longest session so far has been 14 hours.
Eye fatigue is possibly due to the focal point as you mentioned. I have a set of contact lenses specifically for VR with a prescription moving the focal point from about 1.3 - 1.5m to close of infinity. I've found with this setup my eyes don't get tired with prolonged use and the halo style strap is very comfortable for extended use. The batteries at the back do a great job of balancing the weight.
With immersed it helps to have a proper GPU. On my gaming laptop I have a 4080. I don't seem to notice any performance degradation with virtual screens added. With my work laptop which has an on board Intel graphics chip every virtual monitor adds significant CPU load and as such I use a dummy HDMI dongle for the second screen.
Gaming is great on the Quest, except for latency sensitive games. On Fortnite the latency is significant enough that I prefer to play on my 16 inch laptop screen. For most other games the latency is low enough that I don't notice it.
I use both Virtual Desktop (best for gaming) and Immersed (best for productivity) and then also have Fluid for on the go connectivity in the cloud.
Thank for the in-depth explanation! Great tips!
Dont you bother with the electric bill?
@@Calbac-Senbreak Compared with a traditional large monitor the Quest 3 uses a lot less power for a much larger display.
I'd be surprised if Quest 3 usage makes any noticeable difference in the electricity consumption.
Totally, original strap does not feel that bad until you try third party options like bobo vr or alternatives, and then try the original strap again. The original strap is ok for occasional VR use, some short gaming sessions. But then it starts to hurt, neck, face, forehead. With another head mount I can be in VR for hours without requiring a break.
An update to my original comment, I've subsequently abandoned Immersed on my work laptop. The performance impact was just too great on the severely under powered laptop even with just one monitor. I've switched to HDMI Link for the work display as most of the time I only need the one screen, just larger and further away from my eyes.
For gaming I've been experimenting and come to the conclusion that the only two pieces of software capable of streaming with low enough latency are Parsec and Moonlight (with Sunlight as the streaming server). With this setup I can stream from my Linux and windows gaming laptops with excellent latency and graphics performance at 120 Hz. I now play all my games in the headset including Fortnite.
For me the headset has completely replaced the need for a large physical monitor. The only update I am still planning is an IP KVM for the work laptop so I can go completely wireless again.
Remember to blink when you're wearing your VR headset. Dry eye and eye strain are common issues with prolonged headset wear.
Nobody. Nobody forgets to blink.
@@unorthodox5171 Straight from several eye care sites. "Screen use can disrupt your natural blink rhythm. Remember to blink regularly to keep your eyes moist and avoid dry eyes."
@@unorthodox5171I'd double check but I'm pretty sure there has been studies done on it showing that vr gamers forget to blink. Idk why
@@unorthodox5171 lol
@@kcchiefsproductions8687 probably because its protected from dust?
A week ago i have start using VD with 2 virtual desktops, the reason was that i want to buy new monitor, so i wanted to try if my laptop can handle wide screen resolution in games 3440x1440. Long story short, after 1 week of using Quest 3 and VD (in passthrough) i have decided that i dont need a new monitor. I am perfectly happy using this without physical monitor. 👍
Thats awesome to hear!
wow, amazing
the new version of Virtual Desktop now allows multiple monitors
I will make a video soon on that :)
Sadly artificially limited to 2 monitors on Quest 2 and 3 monitors on Quest 3.
When I was using Immersed, I had all of my 4 monitors in VR on the Quest 2 and it was as crisp as Virtual Desktop is (better than SteamVR, Bigscreen Beta and Oculus Link).
However Immersed removed the physical display functionality, basically ruining the program for me - now it asks you to UNPLUG YOUR MONITORS if you have more than 1 physical monitor connected.
So basically there is no way for me to have a bunch of physical monitors in VR, bummer.
@@krissythecatboi yeah, this is the whole reason I stopped using immersed. I have two physical monitors and a virtual wide screen driver that pretends to be a connected monitor. At least now I can use them in Virtual Desktop. To me, 3 monitors are more than enough, but I know there are use cases that need more screens.
@@rafaelaugustomendesmoreira6602 how does virtual desktop handle multiple virtual monitors these days? can you do more than 2?
@@pomi1298 I have three physical monitors and Virtual Desktop still shows only 2, at least on the Quest 2. Not sure about the Quest 3.
why even go backwards with looking at 720p or 1080p, I have a 4k monitor and wont go back, until they make a Vr better than 5k per eye.
I bought my Q3 a few days ago. Im using immersed, this combo is the best ever.
Now i can sit in what ever position i want, i can choose how many screens i want, i can set resolution i can set the size its so awesome. I can never go back to starring into a regular screen agien.
Haha happy for you!!
You CAN use multiple monitors on Virtual Desktop (maybe you couldn't before) and what I like is that you can change the resolution of the virtual monitors, I usually play games on an ultrawide screen and enjoy my time.
Is this what they enabled only recently with the latest update? If yes, I would like to buy this app & give it a try.
You need to get a battery strap which is more comfortable than the stock strap. The BoBoVR S3 is generally considered to be the best one.
I work in Immersed every day with my Quest 3 & MacBook Pro M3. It works very well, & Immersed tracks & displays my Apple Wireless Keyboard without using the portal function.
i got your problem too. too much pressure on the face area ,so i bought the sonicgrace head strap with battery. i have used for a month its totally decrease the pressure and increase the battery life .its a nice improve experience for me.
How did you disable hand tracking in Virtual Desktop? I've tried on my headset, but the software keeps switching it back on. It makes working with keyboard and mouse impossible, yet I saw in your video you did it with no problems.
Meta quest 3 is a great accesible mainstream device, especially for people new to VR, but the resolution is not quite good enough at this point in affordable devices. Maybe in another 3 to 5 years .
It's getting there slowly but surely :)!
gaming monitorer will always be ahead of VR displays, soon we vil ha real photographic quality in gaming monitors.
Hello! The 3S just got announced, so it is even more true that they are making VR more accessible :p
mr boss man (not)
I don't understand why the keyboard and mouse needs to be paired with the headset - everything is happening in the PC, so surely the mouse and keyboard need to be connected to that? WHy would there be any lag?
Depends on what your motives are. If you work remotely somewhere outside your house, you can connect it directly to your headset and use your PC that way in your headset. Otherwise it's of course adviceable to connect it directly to your PC for minimal lag/latency.
@@reality-rise I have had the same question. Thanks for answering - makes sense :-)
Definitely sharp enough. It's the weight mostly. However, a lot of people are going to complain about eye strain in the coming years. So we're definitely getting there, but not quite yet.
I have two PC's. Can i run them both in Virtual Dektop or Immerse? How many monitors or PC's can I have in the virtual environment?
You can switch between connections but not simultaneously although I haven't tried that yet
Is it possible to have a huuuge 32:9 screen for flat gaming in vr?
Lots of things are possible in VR haha, however haven't tried out a screen size like that yet.
You need a bettery head strap that moves the weight to the back so it cuts down on strain and helps the battery life
@Branden-io2wq Yeah I got better ones nowadays haha.
@reality-rise yeah I had like 45 min on the 3s and went I need something better then thus one lol
Is there a way to get vr running even before windows logon? Say I wanted NO monitor at all.
@@robloyst4514 How do you exactly mean getting VR to run before Windows logon?
@@reality-rise virtual desktop etc can only start after you logon. So you need a monitor to put your password in that’s super annoying
You can't, because windows runs the app, though how would you even install and sign in to a client on it without a monitor or start your computer remotely? Only real option is to leave the computer running and just disconnect the single monitor if you want.
Alternatively, you can set up the pc to do facial recognition sign in or even auto sign in, which fairly insecure but you would have to be at your computer anyways just to turn it on.
I stopped using my quest 2 because it wouldn't allow me to use it as a fixed screen without a virtual environment or even move the virtual screen up in said environment so no lying down allowed. Did they finally update that or is this a Quest 3 exclusive?
You mean using the screen lying down? Yeah you can do that now and can move it anywhere. Same goes for being in passthrough / virtual environments.
Can you connect the immersed app wired for less latency?
Your dad dropping the controller on the floor had me smiling!
Awesome video! I have now subscribed!
I might get a Meta Quest 3 after watching this video.
Hahah thank you!
I wonder if i could use the keyboard portal for a drawing tablet 😮
Why not?!! Hehe
Using all these apps which is best for low latency daily work. not for gaming but for trading stocks or crypto? is it best to run multiple monitors with immerse or does it lag and what bout clarity is Virtual pc better for detailed work with one monitor? over immerse 5 monitor setup?
I use immersed for a multiple monitor setup and virtual desktop for somewhat better visual clarity. But all depends on how good your network is, of course. A Wifi 6 router is a must for it to work smoothly.
Is it goid for watching movies better than a tv?
Depends on your TV man. I personally use it more for quick productive tasks but some might find it amazing for movies.
I'm a VR Channel and VR Headsets are way too heavy still and still cause way too much face Stress to even be considered to use as a Normal Monitor. VR Headsets are still at the stage of use only for VR games. For everything else they cause too much Face Stress due to the weight on your Face.
Hey man, great to see you also doing VR content!
is this possible on a gaming laptop top ?
It should be but always depends on your hardware and their capabilities.
Your description of what the resolution of the virtual monitor looks like in the VR headset is the answer I have been seeking. I do not own a VR headset yet and have been looking at getting the Meta Quest 3 when I finally have enough extra money now that the headsets have gotten better and cheaper. I want one for VR gaming (especially Cyberpunk 2077) and maybe even watching movies or TV. However, my concern for movie watching is about the resolution difference in the headset compared to an actual physical TV or monitor. Sure you can make a movie as big as a theater-sized screen in VR. However, the resolution of the headset will cause pixels to be stretched to fit smaller sizes and pixel densities. In other words, I know full well that running in 4K on a TV and actually having that 4K fill that number of pixels. Will not look the same on a screen in a VR headset. It will be altering the original 4K image to fit in a smaller number of pixels. And I had yet to hear anyone put it in terms a tech person like myself can comprehend.
The between 720p and 1080p appearance you say it gets close to isn't bad. Not as good as 4K of course. But that can often look good enough to be overlooked depending on what it is. Especially for older non-4K movies and shows. I am curious about the 3D movie experience too. How will the Avatar movies look if I can get them playing in 3D on it for example?
Side note, I am planning to eventually connect a VR headset directly to my gaming PC once I build my next one for the increased options and visuals. So I am curious if that will improve it too. I've also heard you need Wifi6e or Wifi7 to get the best results.
I am excited to tinker with all this stuff once I can finally get it though.
In my opinion depends on your monitor. My laptop screen, vr can replace that all day long. My msi meg 36" curved ultra wide quantum dot oled 175hz refresh rate 1440p (wish it was 4k) monitor? Not a chance. Not even close
Thanks for all of this input!
You're welcome!
Does anyone know if this could help with legal blindness? I recently found out i am losing my eyesight to an extent. Like 20/400 range, and i really don’t want to lose my job when it begins to affect me on that level.
I mean, you can definitely size up the screen and bring it closer if that helps seeing things better but other than that, it's just a window in a virtual space.
@@reality-riseInterested in this as well see i also have legal blindness. A big issue I had with Quest 2 is that the window couldn't come close enough to see well and on many apps couldn't be adjusted at all. I had to physically walk up to the window if it let me and struggle to make out words. Quest 2 had essentially no accessibility settings.I am interested in using it, but struggle to justify the cost if they can't let me change windows and text size as much as I want and let me get as close to the windows as I want or at the very least have a magnifier utility.
Question, would it also work this well with a MacBook ?
Really can't answer that brother, but you can always try as I have never had a MacBook to test it with.
Any changes after v72 ??
Hi, thanks for this video. I'm trying to choose between VR headset and glasses. Can you compare this set-up vs using XR glasses (probably Rayneo, but any recognised brand like Xreal or whatever).
The RayNeo XR glasses are lightweight and great for streaming and basic AR stuff on the go, while the Meta Quest 3 is more of a powerhouse for full-on VR and AR with better tracking and performance. RayNeo’s easy to use and good for media, but the Quest 3 is perfect if you're looking for more immersive games and interactive experiences.
@@reality-rise Thank you for the advice :) 🙏🏼
Hi, can I use the VD outside of my house?
Yes you can :)
Which one is more suitable for graphic design that has three monitors with good resolution for a long time on the eyes
For graphic design I would still advice a regular monitor because of color and pixel accuracy. But for doing some rough drafts why not.
Merhabalar Türkiye'de bulabileceğim meta quest 3 ve quest 2'yi aynı anda airlink oynarken kaldırabilicek modem öneriniz varmıdır?
I myself used an ASUS router but any router that support Wifi6 connection should do the trick.
@@reality-rise Thanks for the recommendation.
I tried with the meta quest 2 but it’s not sharp enough
abi seni kaç zamandır takip ediyorum. bu videoda fakr ettim ailenin evinde TV'de haberler olunca Türk olduğunu. Türkiyeden VR gözlükler için oyun geliştiren bir stüdyodan selamlar 👋
great video, good flow and order of info - well done!
Thank you!
Buy oled TV, monitor or VR app cinema.... Quest 3 blows me away for many reasons.
Do you think the quality is good enough for coding?
Yeah I think so! Depends how far away the monitors are tbh.
Buy some comfortable headstrap instead of this default panties string. I have bobovr holo headstrap with their battery and additional 20000 mAh powerbank. I just finished playing 12 hours game session and i don't have any problems with headset or comfort. Immersed is good app when you figure out their controls and settings. For example you can turn off and on fingers tracking by touching your ring finger with thumb. But immersed audio streaming and some video streaming like TH-cam are bad.
Immersed have a better quality than vd but there is a trick. If You have 1080p monitor will gave You that resolution inside immersed but if your pc is connected to 4k monitor then it will give You 4k resolution in immesred (its not native 4k but something between 2k and 4k) but anyway thats the solution and working on immersed its much better now
which graphics card you have on windows ?
RTX 3080
@@reality-rise Hi, very interesting, I would like to use meta quest 3 for normal productivity (office 365, big queries in powerbi, some 3d modelling in sketchup and revit) no games, wen I'm not in office and I don't have 2 or 3 screens that I need. I wonder if I really need a laptop with an Nvidia GPU to do this (like said on meta website). I'm trying to use meta quest 3 on my samsung book with intel xe graphic (that by himself performs perfectly all 3d and queries) but I cannot use air link (doesn't even start) but only immersed agent but it is a mess, very nice view but the mouse is unusable. So I think I will change laptop, but I really don't like laptop with nvidia because they are too heavy. I would like to stay around 2.000€ not to much over. If you can help me it would be great: do I really need an NVIDIA GPU even if I don't play games to work with Meta quest 3?
See it like this, in essence you're deploying two monitors at once at a certain resolution. If it comes to 3D graphics, I would always advice looking into some sort of dedicated GPU like Nvidia or AMD. The takeaway is, how many screens do you need in the app (which is multiplied by 2 since your Quest renders both eyes) and at what resolution are you going to render them? On top of that, the 3D work you're performing will be additional energy cost so take that into account.
@@reality-rise so my laptop works because has "only" 2 monitors (the laptop screen and the 32'' external monitor) while with Meta it should run 2+2 in meta plus his monitor and it is not capable without a nvidia? thanks
Ozbekmisiz?
Does it work for Mac ?
Hey there, the multiple monitors? Can't say for sure as I don't use a Mac but another commenter did not saw the option to enable it sadly.
What did you use for the remote session to work? As in programs used, router settings, did you had to leave your pc running for the entire time?
Yes, for the remote session, your PC needs to be on and connected to your network. I use a Wifi6 connection, and it's directly connected with an ethernet cable.
Great tips thnxxx
thanks for your video. do you have tested this with a remote desktop setup? What i mean is, your PC is at home and you are lets say in a coworking space and want to connect with your iphone with remote desktop to you pc. but instead of your iphone you now want to use your quest.
I see what you mean, if you download the APK for remote desktop as a third party and install it that way on your quest, it might work but the UI and usability will be worse since the design is for Android phones. I would instead recommend using Virtual Desktop as a means to connect to your PC.
Merhabalar mert bende virtual desktop kullanıyorum çalışırken çok faydası oluyor ancak benim 3 tane monitörüm var ancak virtual desktop içinde 2 tane monitör koyabiliyorum 3. monitörü koyamamaktayım bununla ilgili nasıl bir çözüm üretebilirim (Hello Mert, I also use Virtual Desktop, and it's very useful while working. However, I have three monitors, but within Virtual Desktop, I can only set up two monitors, and I'm unable to add the third one. How can I find a solution for this issue?)
If you own a Quest 2 you can only open 2 monitors at once, with the Quest 3 it's 3 monitors.
@@reality-rise thank you for information mate
Thanks for sharing!
i just got done doing this, the headset hurts my head. otherwise it would have been great
I would look into a third-party headstrap to release discomfort
@@reality-rise i was using the BOBO S3
Sagol mert aga, ik hoop dat het tegen nu nog beter is
when comparing wity normal eyes when we look desktop.. how much is quest 3 in out of 10 ? please reply
I would say 7 to 8 / 10.
@@reality-rise yes i also feel same 7 to 8. but when we saw those people using vr videos in phone its so clear
This video is helpful 👍😌
Glad it helped you out my friend
When Virtual Desktop has multiple monitor support then were done
Oh yeah!
What about as a standalone pc
bad idea, i will never replace my pc monitor with vr ,, im not going to be having a vr headset straped on my face 24/7 So my pc monitor will always be my only pc monitor.
too bad immersed limits your res and has a subscription model for all features
Doesn't the Immersed app have a sketchy T&C's
User content section 3.2:
"3.2. You hereby grant (and you represent and warrant that you have the right to grant) to Company an irrevocable, nonexclusive, royalty-free and fully paid, worldwide license to reproduce, distribute, publicly display and perform, prepare derivative works of, incorporate into other works, and otherwise use and exploit your User Content, and to grant sublicenses of the foregoing rights, solely for the purposes of including your User Content in the Site. You hereby irrevocably waive (and agree to cause to be waived) any claims and assertions of moral rights or attribution with respect to your User Content."
Yeah it's indeed a bit sketchy, but I do not use Immersed anymore since VD has multiple monitors nowadays. Thanks for the heads up though ^^
That reads like bs legal lingo...Don't put us on.
helped me alot thz
Nah. That thing weighs like 5 bricks on my forehead after about 9 mins! Maybe the PIco 4 but not quest headsets.
The Quest 3 weighs approx 71 grams less than the Pico 4 though.
Unfortunately the latest update to the agent ruins Immersed for anyone who has multiple physical monitors. Not only does it not show multiple physical monitors inside the app, it straight up tells you to unplug them rather than showing one physical and x virtual. Was using it just fine with two physical and two virtual prior. There's also allegations they're removing any posts pointing this out/critical of this from their official Subreddit and Discord, though I have not confirmed these allegations for myself.
Oh really? That doesn't sound good. Hope they'll fix this issue soon
no. gaming-monitor graphics are waaay better than VR displays.. AND VR displays need to reach opp to 100 PPD to match a gaming monitor. that will be around 10-15 years
Hmm, we will see what time tells us but nonetheless still excited for the progression of VR =D
It matters little when gaming for me. I have a qd oled monitor at 34 inches, but for some games such a mortal kombat its cool to play it on a huge virtual screen
yeah... they are better at graphics. VR is still great... they don't have to match a gaming monitor
It will always lag behind dedicated monitors for the simple reason being that it is smaller, and unless the monitor window fills the entire screen, it, by definition, won't have as many pixels and won't have the same response time because unlike a monitor, you can do more than just view the window from one specific angle or size so there is more processing involved.
Why in the world are you wearing the original Quest 3 strap?
That’s the type of hardware that should be burned on day one.
I wear Meta Quest 3 8 hours a day for work - comfort requires a new strap like BoboVR or the like.
Totally with you haha but I actually liked being able to lie down without something poking my head on the back.
I recently received a headstrap from a company which I will do a review on and will use it on a day-to-day basis.
@@reality-rise You’re definitely my type I’m a web developer, excited to explore how Meta Quest 3 might enhance my workflow with it’s multi monitor support via virtual desktop or immersed. Have you found the most comfortable setup, besides a lap desk, for using a keyboard and mouse while lying down on bed with the Meta Quest 3 on?
I think once ai gets fully sorted there will be no need for monitors every game might be playable on every platform and the ai will sort your visual problems out
do you mean using VR instead of monitors
Simple answer... NO!. We are at least 10/14 years away from that happening.
Reasons? I've used both virtual desktop and Immersed from time to time while working (3d animation). I did it when my back was bothering me and I didn't have access to a sit/stand desk. It worked pretty well.
@@MrAnim8orVideos We'll see.. I still reckon we are a long way off VR becoming mainstream
@@coolmacatrain9434 Yeah, you might be right there. Its plauged by lack of AAA games right now. And the visual fidelity isn't perfect yet...not enough pixel density and still annoying light leakage, but for most things those are minor issues. Plus a good portion of people just feel stupid wearing a VR headset.
I have no desire to use vr as my workstation. It's just not comfy for long sessions.
Yea but it can be hugely improved from a silly strap and let all the weight slap in your face kinda way to wear it
@@toututu2993 i have a nice strap but it's still not comfy to have a huge thing on your head for a long time. it it were more like the size of glasses I'd consider it for workstation.
@@yugdesiralhave you seen the Bigscreen Beyond? Picture a “pro version” with passthrough and possibly inside out tracking.
@@pixel_eyezd3805 it still looks a bit cumbersome but that device is heading in the right direction for me, for productivity anyway.
@yugdesiral look at the immersed visor. The only thing putting me off it is the super expensive subscription it is also partly tied to.
great in theory, but at the moment it is not that great yet imo
Let's hope the future will bring even crisper displays and it WILL! :D
The Virtual Desktop App is NOT free. Its $20.
Thats correct
"One thousand eighty p" "2K monitor"
ICK META
Man why the hell are u tortureing yourself without 3r party headstrap or addon ?! U dont even have hair so the plastic at the back must be biting into your skull... There are super cheap (under 10euro) silicone head rests that make world of difference.
I know man haha but I had the BoboVR headstrap back with my Quest 2. I actually like being able to lie down without something digging into the back of my head. Will probably buy a decent headstrap in the near future for playing standing games.
@@reality-rise You can buy addon to the default strap. It looks like a curve plastic (or pillow).