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Nice work, Channel Awesome crew! I actually liked the next two Spider-Man movies. I feel like the second one "flopped" because people wanted it to fail so Spidey could join the MCU.
Easily the best part of the entire trilogy. And the reason why Sandman should've been the sole villain. If he was and the next movie was good we probably never would've gotten Garfield's mess.
And the flack it does get from the scientist acting rash and without caution can actually be explained away as well. It's quick to miss but the first white-coat says that "There's a change in the silicium mass.", meaning that they only measured the mass and supposidly density of the sand already present. If course they should still have installed cameras but the part they did do they got right.
@@voidjockey82 Yeah it's weird that he discounted human error. Humans fuck up all the damn time. Though the movie could've added in they were pressed for time or about to lose their funding if the experiment went wrong. It'd have been more understandable why they'd buck the rules a bit if they needed results fast.
This might be controversial but I honestly think Peter hitting Mary Jane was pure accident. Just think about. Peter was already in a fight with at least one bouncer and Mary Jane grabbed him from behind. So odds are Peter probably thought it was another bouncer grabbing him right then instead of Mary Jane. Also this doesn't take away from the impact of the scene either since if Peter hadn't given into his darker urges and worn the black suit then he wouldn't have acted like such an asshole so wouldn't have gotten into a bar fight and therefore Mary Jane would've never been hurt.
@@batshineman174 also due to the symbiote enhancing his powers but not trusting anyone due to not knowing anything about Earth, Peter's Spider Sense probably would've gone off (It pretty much is confirmed through all media that Peter's Spider Sense activates when something or someone he doesn't trust is near, it just doesnt work the way it's supposed to 100% of the time.)
Except the film got 50-60% critical and public scores: the definition of mixted. The joke is funny, but wrong in essence. The internet makes fun of the film, but the scenes that are good are often said to be so. This is not the first time Ive seen the sandman scene being praised.
The guy we barely saw across multiple movies was going to be a well-known Spider-Man villain? Sounds like it would have been awesome. Guess there was a Spider-Man Cinematic Universe (SCU) before the MCU.
Specifically Avi Arad, Producer of the film and one of Marvel's owners at the time. So because Venom was so popular in the comics Arad pressured Rami-who is clearly a Steve Ditko era SpiderFan-freaking Sandman looks like he jumped off of a comics page-into using him. If this movie had just been about Pete versus Sandman and New Goblin it would have been a hell of a lot better. Also N.C. really called it on how really invested the audience was in the Pete and MJ relationship. The audience I saw it with reacted the same way that his did. Uncle Ben gets shot to stone silence, MJ kisses Harry the entire audience gasps in shock...
It should've been 2 movies. More time for relationship stuff, more time for harry - peter rivalry, first movie with sandman & harry as villains. Then symbiote & eddie is introduced by the end. In the second movie peter gets infected by symbiote, his transformation, his realization, eddie gets symbiote, venom, their fight. And also more time to make eddie brock the anti hero & show his side. And no Gwen Stacy. If this had worked, we'd have got a vulture movie. And more memes.
If he was forced to include Venom, he could've at least done extra research to ensure he got him right. Even if he hated the character, he should've put the extra effort to make him as best as can be. I mean, for God's sake, he doesn't even make Venom/Brock say "We," instead of "I."
@@salarzx62090 I mean it's very easy to tell someone to put some extra effort being relaxed at home, than being in his position under pressure from dozens of producers and putting millions and millions of dollars at stake.
I hate Sam Raimi’s Spider Man films, but I would of liked to see #4. But we probably would have gotten a Mysterio, but we already got a perfect Mysterio with Jake Gyllenhaal.
I love how you tackled the whole Internet Debate. Just because a movie is divisive doesn't mean you can't enjoy it. It should be okay to enjoy the good parts and not be burned for it.
@@ChannelAwesome Tbh, 3 was actually my FAVORITE... I didn't know anything about Venom or Sandman, cuz I had never read a Spiderman comic or seen the cartoons. I therefore didn't give a shit about "what they did to their characters". All 3 movies were corny as hell, but 2 was both corny and depressing. It didn't help also being a struggling college student at the time trying to juggle responsibilities. I watched the movie as an escape from those problems, only to have them thrown in my face. 3 was entertaining (the fight between Harry and Peter at the beginning is still my fav, and I found Emo Peter hilarious). I genuinely had a good time watching it.
Someone made a hilarious theory that the Butler told Harry how his dad died so he could die in battle helping Peter and he would get the family's fortune
Things I genuinely like about Spider-Man 3: -The black symbiote suit was a killer. -Thomas Haden Church's performance. -The special effects were so good for its time especially the scene where Flint Marko turns into Sandman for the first time. That shit was beautiful. -Venom when separated from Eddie Brock looked like a terrifying creature straight out of a Tim Burton/Henry Selick animation. -The dance, yes, THAT. FUCKING. DANCE. -The part with J. Jonah Jameson and his pills is absolutely hilarious. -Stan Lee´s cameo. -The theme about forgiveness. Peter Parker learns to forgive his uncle's killer, Harry learns to forgive Spider-Man and Mary Jane forgives Peter. -When Peter and Harry team up to save MJ is one of the most satisfying scenes of the entire trilogy. -The song "Signal Fire" by Snow Patrol in the end credits after the final scene where MJ and Peter reconcile is so powerful and the best end credits song of the Raimi films. It makes me teary-eyed everytime I hear it knowing there won´t be more Sam Raimi/Tobey Maguire Spider-Man movies and the trilogy ended in such a bittersweet tone.
AH well, I was more annoyed at Venom's characterisation and small size. I also think ASME2 had some of best, but also some of cheesiest and worst, scenes, in the franchise.
Well since he is playing himself AND a character, I think the point is to make his characters look as different as possible from his normal look. It's all about distinction. Also I'd add, he looks a lot like J. Jonah from the comics.
Does symbiote Peter really suck ? Or does he act like what a ''nerd'' with to much power, would act? Going from the bottom to the topp, can change a person
Really? He would act like an emo Travolta from Staying Alive (not Saturday Night Fever Travolta, Staying Alive Travolta) Since when does confidence turn you into 1980s dork?
@@LegioXXI If you're talking about the Venom movie, I don't agree that this is better, but acknowledge that it sucks. Upgrade is a far better Venom movie.
28:58 HISHE Harry: You are so fired. Bernard: What? Harry: You’ve known that this whole time, and you pick now to tell me? Bernard: I thought this would be the best time to tell you the truth. Harry: I TOOK A GRENADE TO THE FACE DUDE!
Fun fact: Sony imposed that scene to be made and added because they thought audiences were too dumb to realise Harry changed his mind on his own (the original, deleted version has Harry look at a picture of him with Peter and MJ, then we see him deep in thought. Harry isn't seen again until his heroic entrance to the final battle. This deleted version of the scene is restored in the official Editor's Cut, which removes Sony's reshoot with Bernard)
Because everyone on the internet hates this movie. NOBODY likes ANYTHING about it. There has NEVER been ANYTHING positive said about this movie and Critic is STUNNING and BRAVE for sharing this view that NOBODY has. Subtle.
I heard a theory that while Venom corrupts people's minds they are still technically the same person. So this is basically what a dorky person thinks as dark.
It's not a theory. Doc Connors in the movies says it out loud. The symbiote make a person's toxic traits stronger. It doesn't create them. So when Peter is dancing like a dork, he's acting like his definition of cool and hyp
It's not a theory. The symbiote enhances the traits of it's host in particular the more negative aspects like aggression. Those traits of Peter that had him dancing at the club and in the streets? Those already existed. The symbiote just magnified them and turned it up to 11. Peter is a uncool nerd so this is what he THINKS being cool is like. That's why it's perfect. It's totally in character for this version of Peter.
@@Webshooters1 I agree. But like Doug I'm confused by the crowd's reaction: at first you see people cringe around him but after a minute women are suddenly smiling at him so it's unclear to me if it's something he's imagining or not. The fact that it's shot from a POV angle confuses me even more...
I think one of the low-key laziest parts of this movie is how the butler knows that Norman Osborne's death was self-inflicted. Loyal butler, world's best coroner.
Sony imposed that scene to be made and added because they thought audiences were too dumb to realise Harry changed his mind on his own (the original, deleted version has Harry look at a picture of him with Peter and MJ, then we see him deep in thought. Harry isn't seen again until his heroic entrance to the final battle. This deleted version of the scene is restored in the official Editor's Cut, which removes Sony's reshoot with Bernard)
@@mrmacross The Editor's Cut also restores a scene that makes Sandman wanting to kill Spider-Man more believable. After Sandman's return and before he meets Venom, he visits his daughter who is at the beach with her mother, as a giant sand castle. After she leaves he promises "I won't let him stop me again".
Evil Peter Parker was perfect though. It was suppose to be cringing and uncomfortable, because the Symbiote amplies the evil within a person. So a dorky nerd like Peter would think that being a playboy douche that dances badly and doesn't care, is his inner evil. He's not an insane murderer, he's a hero, and his inner evil reflects that. That even when he's evil Peter, he's not an insane killer.
@@ShadowSonic2 but homecoming only really focuses on tombes and the rest are just lackeys with no attention compared to 3 where each one gets major focus and screen time
@@ShadowSonic2 or dark knight, think about it, it had 3 villains Scarecrow, joker and two face, hell infinity war has 6 villains in the movie, thanos, 4 of the black order and red skull, shazam had 8 villains, the 7 deadly sins and dr sivana
Maybe they were going for a “what regular people see vs. what peter sees”. So when the people are just looking at him like he’s insane is real life, and when people love what he’s doing it’s all in his head. I mean the symbiote can mess with his head
Wow that could be true. If it is though then they should've made it clearer. And if it isn't true then it should've been, that would've been a cool idea.
That was the plan. But this movie was a victim of huge studio interference that forced Venom into it or Sam Raimi wouldn't be allowed to direct it. He did the best he could, but well...brought to you by the same studio that reboots a franchise still fresh in people's minds.
CovahDX that would’ve made so much more sense than him being one of the main villains. And it would’ve technically been Sam Raimi putting venom in the movie. Damn Sam missed his chance to make the movie better
12:33 Wanna know something that's gonna make you depressed about this joke? After losing a court case revolving around a Sexual assault case that was later proven false, Stan Lee's last words in public were "I think I'll go to bed and die." In his later years, the love of his fans were the only thing keeping him happy along with those occasional projects he was involved with like Super 7 and that Super humans of his. His agent was exploiting him, his daughter blamed and hated him for all her relationship problems (She said that a lot of men were dating her for a shot at some of that Marvel money), a nurse trie to take him to court with a sham accusation, and the people he thought were fans were not only bashing this man, but also celebrating his death. He was at his lowest point in life after that trial, and died thniking the people he worked for hated him. At least now he's with Kirby, Moebius, and Ditko making some more great comics in Heaven.
@@l0sts0ul89 And I agree those Twit-brains didn't know a thing about Mr. Stanley Lieber to begin with. They called a Jewish WW2 Veteran who fought for the Allies a "Nazi," and called one half of the duo that made X-Men "Racist."
I love when Gwen realizes that she's being used as a third wheel for Mary Jane and apologizes for embarassing her. This, Spetacular, Amazing 1 & 2 and Verse made Gwen one my favorite characters.
Yeah, Gwen Stacy is pretty great and it's no wonder why she's so popular. I can totally see why people prefer her to MJ for Peter (even though people also ship her with Miles as well). Also, if you're into comics, Spider-Gwen is great as well.
My favorite detail in this movie is that sandman keeps falling apart, until he sees the locket with his daughters picture. That's what drives him to pull himself together and keep moving.
My thoughts on the Peter kissing Bryce on stage is that, well, MJ is an actress, if she had to kiss someone on stage I'd expect Peter to be comfortable with it, but the fact that he does the upside down kiss, that's pretty hard to defend.
“My name is Peter Parker. I was bitten by a radioactive spider. And for a couple years, I’ve been the one and only spider-man. I’m sure you know the rest. I save the city, fell in love, saved the city again maybe more than I should. Saved thousands of lives. Oh and I did this....” Cue 24:30- 24:50 “But we don’t talk about this... at all. Look I had movie trilogy, several acclaimed animated shows, I was part of a cinematic universe, and i had an animated movie featuring thousands different interpretations of me. It even gave me an Oscar. I even sold well in video games and toys. But despite all things I been put through, the one thing that’s keeping New York from oblivion is me and I love protecting it. There’s only one true face of Marvel and You’re looking at him.”
You failed to mention MJ brushing off Peter trying to support her after the bad reviews and her not telling him she was fired. She's just as bad in the relationship as he is.
I think there's actually a theory that Bruce Campbell's character is actually Mysterio since all of his jobs in the trilogy had something to do with show business in some way and Mysterio always wanted to become an actor in the comics. Also in the concept art for Spider-Man 4 there's a scene where Mysterio gets captured and unmasked and he looks a lot like Bruce Campbell.
Am I the only one who actually liked this movie and thought that the ending was pretty good? Just, having Peter forgive Sand Man for being misunderstood in his uncles’ death felt like a surprising and kind of satisfying ending.
I don't think he knows that happened. Like, she gave the astronaut a note but I doubt it said "hey I'm leaving you for your dad's freelance photographer, Peter Parker. See ya byeee" We as the audience know she left him for Peter, not the characters. Also, JJ's first reaction after his son was dumped was something like "I wonder if we can get the deposit back" or something about getting food. He hardly cares
And according to the FAR-Left, being blind to colour is "racist", despite ignoring race being the predominant point of MLK Jr.'s "I Have A Dream" speech.
@@dustwarewolf5532 There is a difference in ignoring race and ignoring the fact that if you are not white you have a lot of disadvantages because of it. Far-right lunatics don't like when this is acknowledged so they hide behind their victim mentality of being called a racist.
When I saw this movie the audience cheered when Spidey blew up Harry, they clapped as if to say "yeah, that was bad ass" and that fight really was good!
19:16 Sam Raimi never wanted Venom in the film, the studio forced him. So in turn, he sabotaged Venom and the black suits inclusion. Which is why he hated the film to begin with.
I don't think he sabotaged it as much as he simply hadn't thought anything for that role, and in turn devalued everything else, which is why the Sandman conclusion was so oddly done. Even before a story/script is written, you have a compound of ideas and hopes of what you want your characters to accomplish and how to do it, even if rewriting changes some structure, you still have a goal. He's ready to film, it's the 11th hour, and the studio tells him "Venom or nothing". He was doomed.
@@shindean He went on record saying he didn't want to put Venom in the film and he "gave them what they wanted". Then he distanced himself from the film. He had other plans that Sony didn't care for
Huh, interesting... Makes a lot of sense if that's the case.. From the way Venom and Eddie were introduced it's clear they were not well thought out. The climax of the movie seemed forced, as well as sandman's conclusion feeling out of place because of it... And cutting venom out, would make it a solid movie... Hell, I kinda wanna see a re-cut version now.
In my opinion, he should have sacrificed Sandman and cut him out of the movie to focus on Harry and Venom. To quote Doc Ock, "Sometimes, to do what's right we have to be steady, and give up the thing we want the most"
Spider-man 3 is the first time as a child that I realized not all films are good. It was my very first disappointment. It was sad to see this realization started off with one of my favourite franchises.
@@prezwatts2278 When you reach 18 you'll realize how wayward you were. Or if you've reached adulthood, the only remaining plausible explanation is you're blinded by childhood bias. There are plenty of films which are objectively horrible that I first watched as a kid and loved.
The most unbelievable part of this entire movie is when Peter uses that little mini pocket in his jeans to hold the ring. No one has EVER used those pockets.
The scientist thing reminded me of How Spider-Man 3 Should Have Ended. "Eh, it's probably a bird." "Well why don't you look out the window and make sure before we mutate the hell out of something!"
Oh thank you! Harry's death moved me to ugly crying as a kid! So did Sandman telling his side of the story, and Peter forgiving him. It really got to me.
I cried at the end of Pirates of the Caribbean At World's End, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2, Avengers Infinity War and Avengers Endgame.
Cinemawins had an explanation for Peter kissing Gwen. He said that if people knew that Spider-Man had a loved one, people would go after them so the kiss was to make people think he didn’t
That's just a fan theory not an explanation. An explanation can only come from those who worked on the movie like the writers, directors, producers. Not some random dude with a youtube channel that just copied another channel's format but with a positive twist.
Scientist 1: "There's a change in silicon mass." Scientist 2: "It's probably just a bird, it'll fly away when we fire it up." Scientist 3: "Here's a bright idea, why don't you make sure it's a bird before you mutate the crap out of something just because you were too lazy to run this nighttime sand mutation experiment safely?" Scientist 2: "Ugh, fine. (looks out the lab window) Huh, that's a big bird down there." Scientist 1: "Hey, wait a minute. That's not a bird, that's a man."
Saverio Panaccione I was 11 when this film came out and I enjoyed it as much as the previous ones. Years later, it definitely has very obvious flaws, but I can’t help but have a soft spot for it. Not everything in 3 was shit. The birth of Sand Man is still one of my favorite scenes.
"The Internet is Colorblind." Ain't that the truth. Everything's either good or bad, black or white. But I like this review for saying this movie, and most movies, do have some good qualities to them and just because they aren't perfect doesn't mean you have to hate them and call them the worst thing ever to exist
Exactly. There are some things that I absolutely love but will admit they have some flaws (or can acknowledge they're just not for everybody), and there are some things I hate but will admit their good points. Not sure what's so hard about doing that. I don't think I've ever seen a negative review that I've taken personally to the point of going off on someone; if I disagree with their opinion I either respectfully point out why *I* like the thing or I move on, simple as that. As for responding to negative tweets, I don't do that either because I just stay the hell away from Twitter (as should ALL people who want to reduce the stress in their lives by 98%).
I've been saying this for years as well. I'm so tired of everything having to be boiled down to either being the worst thing ever, or the best thing ever. Kinda like when discussing characters in a game. Like take something like League of Legends, if a champion in there might be slightly suboptimal, suddenly they get touted as being fucking unplayable and garbage, when in fact, they might just be a bit niche and hard to play properly.
I think it would’ve been better if Harry acted like he had amnesia and was pulling the strings the whole time with . Leading to the house fight . Damn this movie should’ve focused on Peter , MJ , and Harry . With a sprinkle of Sandman ..... I’ll let myself out .
I would have preferred if they did Venom suit Spidey and Green Goblin, and make the ending be a teaser for the fourth film where we get Eddie Brock and Sandman. Basically splitting it into two movies to give the everyone more screen time.
It’s funny because knowing that Raimi doesn’t even like Venom and really just wanted Sandman and Harry as his villains made me realize just how much more passionate the Sandman scenes are, the way they’re shot, the time spent on them, etc. Venom was lazily written in and I can see the lack of that passion since Raimi was forced by Sony to include him.
victoria martines At least they were accurate in the internet refusing to admit its wrong and only thinking its right. If they had him be offended by everything Critic said that would be so accurate we could confuse him as the internet.
Spider man 3 was the first movie that got me to love and forgive and understand the villain. And kinda gave me chills for how relatable "I like being bad. It makes me happy" line.
Well, TO BE FAIR, as shitty as Jameson can be, he’s actually one of the few people in the comics who has pride and respect for his profession. He actually gives a shit about journalistic integrity and is the first one to call out bullshit when he sees it. If Jameson claims something is true, then he probably means it and has the evidence to back it up. He may hate Spider-Man, but not even that is enough to want to tarnish his reputation if he didn’t actually commit any crimes.
@@gothicMCRgirl Depends on who's writing him. Marvel Comics nowadays is ditching continuity and established character development for being topical, and JJJ can perfectly represent everything wrong with the media. I think back during "Dark Reign", he sang the praises of Norman Osborne, Director of H.A.M.M.E.R. ANd when he was Mayor of NYC, he extended his grudge against Spider-Man to ALL the Avengers. And you watched the end credit stinger to Far From Home, right?
28:06 he had the perfect opportunity to say "i want to kill the spider, you want to kill the spider" and then he transforms and he says "WE want to kill the spider. wanna join me? what a wasted perfect scene that was
I was one of those people who stayed in the theater, while a lot of people walked out of Spider Man 3! It was one of those movies that got way too much hate!
I honestly like the "emo Peter Parker" scene and its cringe. Cause Peter, this Peter, is an awkward nerd who has no clue what cool is. So all of this is exactly how someone like that would act if they were suddenly über confident
@@Hobie02425 nothing really, because Sam Raimi didn't liked the black costume saga, or rather he never read it. He was forced to put it so he pulled a "Now dig on this"
@@Hobie02425 Actually it does and why it's brilliant. Peter has since the start of this trilogy been CONSTANTLY shit on by life but now when he's finally getting some recognition that what Spider-Man does is helping people it starts to go to his head and inflate his ego which is why he's so dismissive of MJ's problems then once he gets the black suit that ego is turned up to 11 and since Peter has always been an awkward, anti-social nerd this IS what he thinks being cool and confident is like. The suit is corrupting him and bringing out his worst aspects. Petty, vengeful, vanity, etc capping off when he hits MJ. If I wanted a more comic-book depiction of the black suit I'd watch the Alien Costume three-parter from Spider-Man TAS.
Oddly enough this is very Venom Like in the movie Eddie is a lil dorky and awkward I can actually imagine a scene in the film where Eddie and Venom enter a club and Eddie starts awkwardly dancing badly and everybody including Venom thinks its bad so Venom takes control of his body to give some super awesome dance moves
IMHO, the film should have focused on: Harry's arc Peter and MJ's relationship Eddie Brock/Venom Gwen Stacy, her dad, and Sandman add little to nothing to the film when I really think about it. Sandman's story just ends, and the Stacys just fade into the background once Venom hits the scene.
Raimi didn't want to do Venom so soon, he saved that concept for the 4th or 5th movie, Sony said, fuck that, this is the last film and it needs Venom, Raimi wanted Sandman for the third, and we got too many plotlines happening. I agree though, a lack of Gwen Stacy would've helped, but I think Venom should've been shelved as well over Sandman.
No, t should have focused on Sandman, not Venom. As Motodog242 said, Venom was something that the series was still building to. Cramming him into this movie ruined it. Without him here, most likely, we would have gotten more set up with JJ's son, and he'd most likely have been tied into how Venom reaches Earth (astronaut, alien life form). But without time to develop that, we get this mess. And you'll notice too that the Sandman stuff is the better done stuff, because that's what Riami was invested in, what he had prepared for.
A few people have pointed this out, so I'll try and say something new. Venom was forced into the movie by Sony against Raimi's wishes. I think focusing on Sandman would make for a far more focused story, leaving room for Peter and Mary Jane's relationship and Harry's story. This way we wouldn't have cringe worthy dance scenes and the romantic could be more developed. Other than that I agree with Critic in removing the amnesia storyline and making Harry more of a scheming villain, and I agree that the Stacy's should have been removed. Something I would've done is have Peter tell Harry about his father's death (like he was trying to do after Mary Jane's Broadway show). It would make more sense then the butler doing it.
I would understand throwing Gwen and Eddie in 3 to set him up as Venom in the 4th. We know Raimi didn’t want Venom in 3 but Sony did, I’m surprised they didn’t bite to pump out more movies
I feel like Sam Raimi was playing a game of chicken with Avi Arad: "I'll make the Venom storyline so awful, he'll make me cut it from the film!" Unfortunately, nobody blinked.
Honestly, I agree with pretty much all of Doug’s opinions in this film. This is basically how I would do a review on this film. The film’s not perfect, but it has plenty of great moments. Every Spider-Man movie has something great even if it’s not the best.
When you talked about bruce Campbell's cameo characters all being the same dude it made me laugh because that was actually sam raimis intention. His cameos are actually as Quentin beck, who would be the main villain, mysterio in spiderman 4
Fan theory: every Bruce Campbell character in these movies is Ash from Evil Dead1,2/Army of Darkness after he gets fired from S-Mart and just keeps getting fired from different jobs until Value Stop in Ash vs. Evil Dead. He just loves to screw with customers' heads like Peter.
So Ash regrew his hand, became a wrestling anouncer that met the human spider, got fired, became a ticket usher at a broadway show where he meets Peter. Turns him away and causes his emotional arch, got fired and learned terrible french, and got a job where he helps Parker try to propose. Wow that is a stretch. Groovy.
@@KubatheChangeling The real kicker? He just did a review where another Spidey made a deal with Mephisto, and it's handled better in every possible way.
Nostalgia Critic: “EVERYone says that EVERYthing in this movie is the worst.” Inigo Montaya: “You use that word ‘every’ a lot. I do not think you know what it means.”
Pirate Style Jutsu He said that everyone despises Iron Man 2 when that simply isn’t the case. Iron Man 2 has a 7/10 average rating on IMDb and a 71% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes which is pretty good.
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I agree with every word of your conclusion. Thanks for the great content and you too stay awesome (and healthy can't forget that)
Well said. If we let moral spiral, things will only get worse.
Also use Zoom, Discord, Google Hangouts or Skype if you need people together. Look up that one Modern Family episode which was shot entirely as a long Facetime call for editing ideas.
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Nice work, Channel Awesome crew! I actually liked the next two Spider-Man movies. I feel like the second one "flopped" because people wanted it to fail so Spidey could join the MCU.
The Birth of the Sandman is a universally praised scene, and it deserves every single praise it gets.
Easily the best part of the entire trilogy. And the reason why Sandman should've been the sole villain. If he was and the next movie was good we probably never would've gotten Garfield's mess.
And the flack it does get from the scientist acting rash and without caution can actually be explained away as well. It's quick to miss but the first white-coat says that "There's a change in the silicium mass.", meaning that they only measured the mass and supposidly density of the sand already present. If course they should still have installed cameras but the part they did do they got right.
@@voidjockey82 Yeah it's weird that he discounted human error. Humans fuck up all the damn time. Though the movie could've added in they were pressed for time or about to lose their funding if the experiment went wrong. It'd have been more understandable why they'd buck the rules a bit if they needed results fast.
I bet I could come up with a praise that it doesn't deserve.
@@OptimalOwl Go for it?
"I did not hit her, it's not true, it's the symbiote. I did not hit her, i did not... oh, hi Harry"
Lamunes ADV this is an underrated comment
This might be controversial but I honestly think Peter hitting Mary Jane was pure accident.
Just think about. Peter was already in a fight with at least one bouncer and Mary Jane grabbed him from behind. So odds are Peter probably thought it was another bouncer grabbing him right then instead of Mary Jane.
Also this doesn't take away from the impact of the scene either since if Peter hadn't given into his darker urges and worn the black suit then he wouldn't have acted like such an asshole so wouldn't have gotten into a bar fight and therefore Mary Jane would've never been hurt.
Oh, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, what a story Lamunes ADV.
@@batshineman174 also due to the symbiote enhancing his powers but not trusting anyone due to not knowing anything about Earth, Peter's Spider Sense probably would've gone off (It pretty much is confirmed through all media that Peter's Spider Sense activates when something or someone he doesn't trust is near, it just doesnt work the way it's supposed to 100% of the time.)
Mr. Ditkovich: Give me rent.
Peter: In a few minutes bitch!
Funny how Bryce-Dallas Howard, a redhead, played Gwen Stacy. Then, Kirsten Dunst, a blonde, played Mary Jane
@Adam Apocalypse actually, platinum blonde is emma stones real hair color
In my opinion, heres what I would do:
Keep the Sandman and Harry subplots.
And use the whole venom story for a separate movie.
the sad,no, the depressing thing is that THAT was the original plan, it oculd have been GREAT DAMMIT
Yes, because Sandman is awesome and Harry had his development in the past movies, so he's already set up. No need add more!
It would be cool if they use only the sandman and suit. Leaving Venom for the sequel.
@@jjsalas But what about Harry?
@@rmn070 harry osborn/hobgoglin kill aunt may o mary jane watson
"Do you think ita right to be so black and white?"
"The internet is colourblind."
Unfortunately that's PAINFULLY accurate
Red-blue colorblind?
I mean, even if you are fully colourblind, you still see shades of grey.
There’s also grey.
Except the film got 50-60% critical and public scores: the definition of mixted. The joke is funny, but wrong in essence. The internet makes fun of the film, but the scenes that are good are often said to be so. This is not the first time Ive seen the sandman scene being praised.
@@narsil1984 I think the joke refers to the internet's treatment of everything, not just this movie
This movie gave us the best line ever:
“Give me rent.”
You'll get your rent when you fix this DAMN DOOR!!!
Matthew Laskorski That wasn’t cool.
@@theKK_spideyfans He is... a good boy. Must be in some kind of trouble.
He's a good boy he has troubles
And they never fixed his damn door.
My guess why Sandman just roars when he's big is that a larynx is too difficult to form at this early stage of his new life.
I would've like if NC used something like '' We are attacked by the mummy!' in the background instead'' I have sand in my shoes now!''.
Also, I think it uses the Godzilla roar from the Heisei period but I’m not sure
The only problem with that theory is that you’re trying to apply logic to SPIDER-MAN 3.
I always thought he was just TRYING to be scary lol
Sandman: Anakin Skywalker's true arch-enemy. ;D
Can sandman make a SANDwich?
I want to see this movie
Now all I can imagine is Anakin Skywalker meeting Sandman and IMMEDIATELY getting freaked out
Fun Fact: Bruce Campbell's character throughout all 3 movies is the SAME guy. It was revealed in Spider-Man 4 Concept Art that he is Mysterio
Fucking missed opportunity, I wish this happened now..
*deep breath*
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
I am French
That's so god damn dumb.
I'm so disappointed that we didn't get that.
The guy we barely saw across multiple movies was going to be a well-known Spider-Man villain? Sounds like it would have been awesome. Guess there was a Spider-Man Cinematic Universe (SCU) before the MCU.
Sam Raimi didn't want to include Venom, he admitted he didn't know how to do venom, he was forced to by the execs.
Specifically Avi Arad, Producer of the film and one of Marvel's owners at the time.
So because Venom was so popular in the comics Arad pressured Rami-who is clearly a Steve Ditko era SpiderFan-freaking Sandman looks like he jumped off of a comics page-into using him.
If this movie had just been about Pete versus Sandman and New Goblin it would have been a hell of a lot better.
Also N.C. really called it on how really invested the audience was in the Pete and MJ relationship. The audience I saw it with reacted the same way that his did. Uncle Ben gets shot to stone silence, MJ kisses Harry the entire audience gasps in shock...
It should've been 2 movies.
More time for relationship stuff, more time for harry - peter rivalry, first movie with sandman & harry as villains. Then symbiote & eddie is introduced by the end.
In the second movie peter gets infected by symbiote, his transformation, his realization, eddie gets symbiote, venom, their fight.
And also more time to make eddie brock the anti hero & show his side.
And no Gwen Stacy.
If this had worked, we'd have got a vulture movie. And more memes.
That explains so much🕸
If he was forced to include Venom, he could've at least done extra research to ensure he got him right. Even if he hated the character, he should've put the extra effort to make him as best as can be. I mean, for God's sake, he doesn't even make Venom/Brock say "We," instead of "I."
@@salarzx62090 I mean it's very easy to tell someone to put some extra effort being relaxed at home, than being in his position under pressure from dozens of producers and putting millions and millions of dollars at stake.
"I just think that Bucre Campbell is the same guy who is getting fired"
*cries in Spider Man 4 villain*
I hate Sam Raimi’s Spider Man films, but I would of liked to see #4. But we probably would have gotten a Mysterio, but we already got a perfect Mysterio with Jake Gyllenhaal.
I made Spider-Man 4 and 5 on my channel if you want to check them out. :)
@@kevinmitchell6466 who’s bucre
Spider-Man: Obtaining power
Spider-Man 2: Neglecting power
Spider-Man 3: Abusing power
@@BC92Se7en you mean MJ Abusing Peter
Well said😂😂
I don't consider that a bad thing with the character.
I love how you tackled the whole Internet Debate. Just because a movie is divisive doesn't mean you can't enjoy it. It should be okay to enjoy the good parts and not be burned for it.
Facts
@@ChannelAwesome Tbh, 3 was actually my FAVORITE... I didn't know anything about Venom or Sandman, cuz I had never read a Spiderman comic or seen the cartoons. I therefore didn't give a shit about "what they did to their characters".
All 3 movies were corny as hell, but 2 was both corny and depressing. It didn't help also being a struggling college student at the time trying to juggle responsibilities. I watched the movie as an escape from those problems, only to have them thrown in my face. 3 was entertaining (the fight between Harry and Peter at the beginning is still my fav, and I found Emo Peter hilarious). I genuinely had a good time watching it.
me about the rise of skywalker
@@salt6500 same
The Internet has always been divisive over everything since it first kicked off
Someone made a hilarious theory that the Butler told Harry how his dad died so he could die in battle helping Peter and he would get the family's fortune
That is now my head canon. Also the bloopers of him trying to say glider is comedy gold.
Yeah this should be official.
"So one was a stubborn jerk, the child a snob, and they both became super villains? The hell with that, this Alfred is going to get paid!"
Screw Venom and Sandman. The Butler is the real villain.
Then he finds the Goblins stuff and becomes the 3rd Goblin.😁
"When he's bigger his vocabulary turns to 'Rawr"
Well you try talking with a mouthful of sand
I always saw it as a John White/The Beast thing
I don't like sand, it's coarse, rough and irritating and it gets everywhere
NC expecting someone transforming into something not human to sound human is crazy
@@rorcknar So the Sandman is Anakin's arch-nemesis... I wand to see THAT movie!
@@startrekalien He had the word man in his name (Facepalm). He's the Sandman not the Sandmonster dah...😂
23:53
"Who is my daughter supposed to look up to now?"
Uhhhhh...........you maybe?
Nah, that’ll never work. I have a pill problem.
Things I genuinely like about Spider-Man 3:
-The black symbiote suit was a killer.
-Thomas Haden Church's performance.
-The special effects were so good for its time especially the scene where Flint Marko turns into Sandman for the first time. That shit was beautiful.
-Venom when separated from Eddie Brock looked like a terrifying creature straight out of a Tim Burton/Henry Selick animation.
-The dance, yes, THAT. FUCKING. DANCE.
-The part with J. Jonah Jameson and his pills is absolutely hilarious.
-Stan Lee´s cameo.
-The theme about forgiveness. Peter Parker learns to forgive his uncle's killer, Harry learns to forgive Spider-Man and Mary Jane forgives Peter.
-When Peter and Harry team up to save MJ is one of the most satisfying scenes of the entire trilogy.
-The song "Signal Fire" by Snow Patrol in the end credits after the final scene where MJ and Peter reconcile is so powerful and the best end credits song of the Raimi films. It makes me teary-eyed everytime I hear it knowing there won´t be more Sam Raimi/Tobey Maguire Spider-Man movies and the trilogy ended in such a bittersweet tone.
THC was perfect as The Sandman/Flint Marko
The symbiote suit wasn’t accurate to the suit in the comics
i love 1-3 and i dont care what people say about my opinion. I grew up with these films, and i will damn sure defend them.
AH well, I was more annoyed at Venom's characterisation and small size.
I also think ASME2 had some of best, but also some of cheesiest and worst, scenes, in the franchise.
True on all points. And yes, the dance was unbelievably corny and kinda stupid, but it’s also grown on me over the years
Other than the fake hair, his J. J. is actually pretty great.
Well since he is playing himself AND a character, I think the point is to make his characters look as different as possible from his normal look. It's all about distinction. Also I'd add, he looks a lot like J. Jonah from the comics.
Petition to get Alex Jones as JJJ in the new Spider-Man movie.
I always thought that was his real hair when I was a kid lol
BenjiMan he’s talking about Doug
@@crunchy1547 he knows dude
"ben 10 inches"
there is a special place in hell for that joke. its right next to that terrible CGI puppet from spawn
Rick Booth this is the best comment I’ve read today
Rick Booth Why? That joke was funny. 😂
I think I saw that one on The Cinema Snob.
He pissed off cause it made him laugh but he cried when ben died in the first spider man movie LMAO XD XD XD
BrxNational its funny as hell, but u really wanna have hung as fuck uncle ben in the back of your head? 🤣
Does symbiote Peter really suck ? Or does he act like what a ''nerd'' with to much power, would act? Going from the bottom to the topp, can change a person
Fredrik Lundgren thats the genius of it
Really? He would act like an emo Travolta from Staying Alive (not Saturday Night Fever Travolta, Staying Alive Travolta)
Since when does confidence turn you into 1980s dork?
Geoffrey Sorkin Still better than some dabbing TikTok meme edgelord
@@LegioXXI If you're talking about the Venom movie, I don't agree that this is better, but acknowledge that it sucks. Upgrade is a far better Venom movie.
This probably something I would do if I wanted to become Bad.
"My daughter loved Spiderman who she supposed to lookup to now??".... Maybe you dad!
ouch
Wow that burn was so big it can set the woods on fire.
I’ve been having a hard time with the coronavirus, and this is exactly what the doctor ordered! Thank you, Dr. Critic!
It's like Dr Bitch Spasms said:
'Laughter's the best medicine. HOOHOO!!-HOOHOO!!-HOOHOO!!-HOOHOO!!-HOOHOO!!'
Mac Nava you have coronavirus?
You got the virus? Don't put your finger up your butt then smell it.
I agree in that he's of the boredom
28:58 HISHE
Harry: You are so fired.
Bernard: What?
Harry: You’ve known that this whole time, and you pick now to tell me?
Bernard: I thought this would be the best time to tell you the truth.
Harry: I TOOK A GRENADE TO THE FACE DUDE!
Nice reference.
HISHE is the best.
Fun fact: Sony imposed that scene to be made and added because they thought audiences were too dumb to realise Harry changed his mind on his own (the original, deleted version has Harry look at a picture of him with Peter and MJ, then we see him deep in thought. Harry isn't seen again until his heroic entrance to the final battle. This deleted version of the scene is restored in the official Editor's Cut, which removes Sony's reshoot with Bernard)
"There's a change in the silicon mass."
"Yeah, it's probably just a bird."
"Here's a bright idea..."
"The internet is colour blind!"
How ironically honest...
Unless it's 4chan
@@user-hf9hf6hw8j 4chan is for subhumans so it doesn't count.
@@1997lordofdoom True. True. But nonetheless
Because everyone on the internet hates this movie. NOBODY likes ANYTHING about it. There has NEVER been ANYTHING positive said about this movie and Critic is STUNNING and BRAVE for sharing this view that NOBODY has.
Subtle.
*points at The Wall review*
It is honest. A l o t
Aunt May: "Spider-Man doesn't kill people."
Black Suit Spider-Man: *kills Marko*
Aunt May: "WHAT THE HELL?!"
I heard a theory that while Venom corrupts people's minds they are still technically the same person. So this is basically what a dorky person thinks as dark.
It's not a theory. Doc Connors in the movies says it out loud. The symbiote make a person's toxic traits stronger. It doesn't create them. So when Peter is dancing like a dork, he's acting like his definition of cool and hyp
It's not a theory. The symbiote enhances the traits of it's host in particular the more negative aspects like aggression. Those traits of Peter that had him dancing at the club and in the streets? Those already existed. The symbiote just magnified them and turned it up to 11. Peter is a uncool nerd so this is what he THINKS being cool is like. That's why it's perfect. It's totally in character for this version of Peter.
@@Webshooters1 I agree. But like Doug I'm confused by the crowd's reaction: at first you see people cringe around him but after a minute women are suddenly smiling at him so it's unclear to me if it's something he's imagining or not. The fact that it's shot from a POV angle confuses me even more...
So its their alter ego and dark subconscious. It opens the dark part of their mind.
@@julienmorozof8082 Someone should REALLY update his dictionary.
I think one of the low-key laziest parts of this movie is how the butler knows that Norman Osborne's death was self-inflicted. Loyal butler, world's best coroner.
Sony imposed that scene to be made and added because they thought audiences were too dumb to realise Harry changed his mind on his own (the original, deleted version has Harry look at a picture of him with Peter and MJ, then we see him deep in thought. Harry isn't seen again until his heroic entrance to the final battle. This deleted version of the scene is restored in the official Editor's Cut, which removes Sony's reshoot with Bernard)
@@seymourkrelborn4780 fascinating. Thanks for sharing, I had no idea.
@@mrmacross The Editor's Cut also restores a scene that makes Sandman wanting to kill Spider-Man more believable. After Sandman's return and before he meets Venom, he visits his daughter who is at the beach with her mother, as a giant sand castle. After she leaves he promises "I won't let him stop me again".
@@mrmacross You're welcome :>
@@seymourkrelborn4780 wow those two changes sound awesome
Thanos: I am inevitable
Bruce Campbell: i am French
Laughs in French
@@bensorkin7842 En Francais! 😉
D accord ( je suis français )
Snap.
I am the 69th like
Fans: "Give me review!"
Critic: "You'll get your review when you fix this damn door!
Review Time
Ok
NC’s portrayal of J. Jonah Jameson was ON POINT
Not enough moustache...
It’s too good to the point that Im really hating the character more (just shows that he’s doing his job) 🤣😂
To the last pointy strain of hair.
Absolutely agreed. I was quite surprised, someone should hire him to be JJ in a cartoon.
That wig!!!!😲😆😂
Is it incredible that they got an actor that actually looks like the comic book villain he was playing. Bravo Sandman bravo.
Evil Peter Parker was perfect though. It was suppose to be cringing and uncomfortable, because the Symbiote amplies the evil within a person. So a dorky nerd like Peter would think that being a playboy douche that dances badly and doesn't care, is his inner evil.
He's not an insane murderer, he's a hero, and his inner evil reflects that. That even when he's evil Peter, he's not an insane killer.
in the comics peters suit canonically went to deadpool first and Symbiotes keep the traits of their last wearer
that's exactly how i viewed it the first time, 'wow THIS is his dark side?'
THANK YOU!
He does an incredible JK Simmons impression. Jesus, I hope he doesn’t do a sketch based on Oz
Just has to add some growl, maybe a bit deeper?
Sam Raimi: "How many villains do you want "
Sony:"YES"
Mark web: how many villains do you want
Sony: yes
There were just as many villains in Batman Returns or Homecoming.
Sony: You can do whatever want this time
Sam Raimi: Yes
@@ShadowSonic2 but homecoming only really focuses on tombes and the rest are just lackeys with no attention compared to 3 where each one gets major focus and screen time
@@ShadowSonic2 or dark knight, think about it, it had 3 villains Scarecrow, joker and two face, hell infinity war has 6 villains in the movie, thanos, 4 of the black order and red skull, shazam had 8 villains, the 7 deadly sins and dr sivana
Fun fact: If Spider-Man 3 only focused on Sandman’s story, it would probably be one of the best superhero films of all time
Shawn Payne I agree. The Venom story can (And sadly rarely is) be really interesting but with the Sandman stuff the movie is bloated
'Fact'
'Probably'
It would have been better most likely but let's not jump to conclusions
Even greater than that picture
It would have been great if it focused on Peter and Harry’s rivalry.
_"You want forgiveness? Get religion."_
-Bully Maguire
May I suggest the teachings of the Jedi.
@@gabrielgingras814 And may I suggest the footing of your ass?
Yeah and instead he went and asked God to kill Peter. Because logic.
@@asterixobelix20
That was a TH-cam poop reference.
You want the Beginning?
*I AM THE NEW BEGINNING!*
Maybe they were going for a “what regular people see vs. what peter sees”.
So when the people are just looking at him like he’s insane is real life, and when people love what he’s doing it’s all in his head.
I mean the symbiote can mess with his head
Wow that could be true. If it is though then they should've made it clearer. And if it isn't true then it should've been, that would've been a cool idea.
“Far from home.” Ha. True
Honestly, if this movie just had Sandman, Harry and Their relationship. It’ll be good.
That was the plan. But this movie was a victim of huge studio interference that forced Venom into it or Sam Raimi wouldn't be allowed to direct it. He did the best he could, but well...brought to you by the same studio that reboots a franchise still fresh in people's minds.
Eddie brock becoming Venom should have been an end credit scene
CovahDX that would’ve made so much more sense than him being one of the main villains. And it would’ve technically been Sam Raimi putting venom in the movie. Damn Sam missed his chance to make the movie better
That’s what the original script was. Then everyone said Venom!
@@Jtr999 basically this. It would've been instant box office money for spiderman 4.
12:33 Wanna know something that's gonna make you depressed about this joke?
After losing a court case revolving around a Sexual assault case that was later proven false, Stan Lee's last words in public were "I think I'll go to bed and die." In his later years, the love of his fans were the only thing keeping him happy along with those occasional projects he was involved with like Super 7 and that Super humans of his. His agent was exploiting him, his daughter blamed and hated him for all her relationship problems (She said that a lot of men were dating her for a shot at some of that Marvel money), a nurse trie to take him to court with a sham accusation, and the people he thought were fans were not only bashing this man, but also celebrating his death. He was at his lowest point in life after that trial, and died thniking the people he worked for hated him.
At least now he's with Kirby, Moebius, and Ditko making some more great comics in Heaven.
Is it alright if I cried because that's so god damn depressing T_T
@@Webshooters1 It'd be weird if you didn't.
@@b3rz3rk3r9 nah fuck those Twitter dipshits , they're fake fans who don't know shit about Stan Lee.
@@l0sts0ul89 "and the people HE THOUGHT were fans" Never said real fans did it, because real fans were too bust getting flowers.
@@l0sts0ul89 And I agree those Twit-brains didn't know a thing about Mr. Stanley Lieber to begin with. They called a Jewish WW2 Veteran who fought for the Allies a "Nazi," and called one half of the duo that made X-Men "Racist."
I love when Gwen realizes that she's being used as a third wheel for Mary Jane and apologizes for embarassing her. This, Spetacular, Amazing 1 & 2 and Verse made Gwen one my favorite characters.
Yeah, Gwen Stacy is pretty great and it's no wonder why she's so popular. I can totally see why people prefer her to MJ for Peter (even though people also ship her with Miles as well). Also, if you're into comics, Spider-Gwen is great as well.
Her affair with goblin ruined her for me
@Dylan Sharp in the sins past story arc
@Dylan Sharp the amazing Spiderman comics i think it starts in issue 500 you can buy the volume in Amazon
My favorite detail in this movie is that sandman keeps falling apart, until he sees the locket with his daughters picture. That's what drives him to pull himself together and keep moving.
Nostalgia Critic was right about Stan Lee’s cameo.
He was so right
He was so right
Too right.
Carlos Lopez-Ortega I’m so sorry
It’s one of Stan’s best cameos
My thoughts on the Peter kissing Bryce on stage is that, well, MJ is an actress, if she had to kiss someone on stage I'd expect Peter to be comfortable with it, but the fact that he does the upside down kiss, that's pretty hard to defend.
“My name is Peter Parker. I was bitten by a radioactive spider. And for a couple years, I’ve been the one and only spider-man. I’m sure you know the rest. I save the city, fell in love, saved the city again maybe more than I should. Saved thousands of lives. Oh and I did this....”
Cue 24:30- 24:50
“But we don’t talk about this...
at all. Look I had movie trilogy, several acclaimed animated shows, I was part of a cinematic universe, and i had an animated movie featuring thousands different interpretations of me. It even gave me an Oscar. I even sold well in video games and toys. But despite all things I been put through, the one thing that’s keeping New York from oblivion is me and I love protecting it. There’s only one true face of Marvel and You’re looking at him.”
Underated
You failed to mention MJ brushing off Peter trying to support her after the bad reviews and her not telling him she was fired. She's just as bad in the relationship as he is.
honestly listening to Sam rami talk about this movie it really felt like Sony had control of the script instead of rami
Because they did.
@@NirvanaLiveTonight- Sony really is a shitty company
Mr.AlucardRules Yes Sir.
Even the fact that they even forced him into including Venom when he didn't understand the character.
@@mr.alucardrules4956 Don't blame Sony for everything, it's Avi Arad who forced Sam Raimi to add Venom
This movie should be praised for bringing us so many meme sources
God bless you Sam Raimi
"I guess one person can make a difference. 'Nuff said."
That is the best quote of the movie. FIGHT ME.
And from Stan the man, natch.
@@chrissonofpear1384 We all miss him dearly.
No fight necessary. Excelsior!
Can’t because you’re right
RIP Stan Lee, you'll be missed dearly.
I think there's actually a theory that Bruce Campbell's character is actually Mysterio since all of his jobs in the trilogy had something to do with show business in some way and Mysterio always wanted to become an actor in the comics. Also in the concept art for Spider-Man 4 there's a scene where Mysterio gets captured and unmasked and he looks a lot like Bruce Campbell.
Didn't Bruce Campbell play the narrator in the Spider-man games?
Pretty sure Raimi confirmed that Bruce Campbell would've been Mysterio in SM4
Weegee Squeegee I know for sure he did in the first one but idk about the other two.
T S interesting I didn’t know that
@@marvelousmeyer48 Yeah, okay, I was just making sure I wasn't confusing him with another person. (Also, yeah, he was in the other two.)
Fun fact: Sam Raimi is *now* directing "Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness". He can do comedy and humor right (Spider Man 2).
He's only considered.
Not sure
Wasn't that one supposed to be the MCU's first horror movie? Raimi can do light-hearted and funny, but I don't know about suspenseful or spooky.
Sure, but that's not horror, which we were expecting.
@@ryanc970 need I remind you he directed EVIL DEAD....
Am I the only one who actually liked this movie and thought that the ending was pretty good?
Just, having Peter forgive Sand Man for being misunderstood in his uncles’ death felt like a surprising and kind of satisfying ending.
I agree I really like sandman as a villain and thought the ending was really good and I'm glad Peter and MJ didn't instantly get back together
Yeah I think it's the weakest of the trilogy but I thought it was still really enjoyable and I could watch it again
I like it too
Yeah, and it works extra well because it's a direct parallel to Harry forgiving Peter for his role in Norman's end.
"You are definitely far from home."
I see what you did there...
Hey, how in hell did JJJ still hire Peter who stole his son's fiancee ?
@@Good100 eventually in a story, Peter left because he got tired of JJ's Lies and Shit posts.
You mean his employee, the nerd, taking his daughter-in-law the actress, from his son the astronaut? Eh, it's water under the bridge.
Ben Sorkin he probably forgot about it between films
@@bensorkin7842 thats something that would say the boss, JJ
I don't think he knows that happened. Like, she gave the astronaut a note but I doubt it said
"hey I'm leaving you for your dad's freelance photographer, Peter Parker. See ya byeee"
We as the audience know she left him for Peter, not the characters. Also, JJ's first reaction after his son was dumped was something like "I wonder if we can get the deposit back" or something about getting food. He hardly cares
“The Internet Is Color Blind”
I am pissing myself laughing right now lol
Oh. YehxD
Considering people never settled for the color of that dress, I can believe that.
And according to the FAR-Left, being blind to colour is "racist", despite ignoring race being the predominant point of MLK Jr.'s "I Have A Dream" speech.
And according to the far-right, even vaguely suggesting that white people don’t face worse racism than black people is sacrilege to... something.
@@dustwarewolf5532 There is a difference in ignoring race and ignoring the fact that if you are not white you have a lot of disadvantages because of it.
Far-right lunatics don't like when this is acknowledged so they hide behind their victim mentality of being called a racist.
When I saw this movie the audience cheered when Spidey blew up Harry, they clapped as if to say "yeah, that was bad ass" and that fight really was good!
19:16 Sam Raimi never wanted Venom in the film, the studio forced him. So in turn, he sabotaged Venom and the black suits inclusion. Which is why he hated the film to begin with.
I don't think he sabotaged it as much as he simply hadn't thought anything for that role, and in turn devalued everything else, which is why the Sandman conclusion was so oddly done. Even before a story/script is written, you have a compound of ideas and hopes of what you want your characters to accomplish and how to do it, even if rewriting changes some structure, you still have a goal. He's ready to film, it's the 11th hour, and the studio tells him "Venom or nothing". He was doomed.
@@shindean He went on record saying he didn't want to put Venom in the film and he "gave them what they wanted". Then he distanced himself from the film. He had other plans that Sony didn't care for
@@Alchimexx i know, we know. After that dance scene, we are all trying to figure out what went wrong all those years ago.
Huh, interesting... Makes a lot of sense if that's the case.. From the way Venom and Eddie were introduced it's clear they were not well thought out. The climax of the movie seemed forced, as well as sandman's conclusion feeling out of place because of it... And cutting venom out, would make it a solid movie... Hell, I kinda wanna see a re-cut version now.
In my opinion, he should have sacrificed Sandman and cut him out of the movie to focus on Harry and Venom. To quote Doc Ock, "Sometimes, to do what's right we have to be steady, and give up the thing we want the most"
NC: You’ll get your Spider-Man 3 review when you fixed this damn door!
I don't see how that's his problem.
Shut that door!
@@SukoYote beat me to it 😆
Aunt May in this trilogy is the purest form of wholesome joy.
YES!!! ...
I really like her performance. She made me smile.
Second that.
Yup.
Exactly. She actually feels like a real person unlike all the cardboard douchy characters in MCU.
Spider-man 3 is the first time as a child that I realized not all films are good. It was my very first disappointment. It was sad to see this realization started off with one of my favourite franchises.
My first dissapointment was Secret Life of Pets.
For me it was very different, I loved this film and still do
Tupac Shakur Fan same, this and spectacular were my first introductions to venom
@@Koichi-Kun I think mines was either the movie or 1994 were I seen venom for the first time
@@prezwatts2278 When you reach 18 you'll realize how wayward you were. Or if you've reached adulthood, the only remaining plausible explanation is you're blinded by childhood bias. There are plenty of films which are objectively horrible that I first watched as a kid and loved.
The most unbelievable part of this entire movie is when Peter uses that little mini pocket in his jeans to hold the ring. No one has EVER used those pockets.
I keep my coin change in those. I thought everyone does. Now I find out I'm a weirdo?!
I have 3 1” dowel rods in mine right now for a table leaf I plan on making.
Ryan Downey I always put my lighter there . Perfect spot for it !
*laughs in pocketwatch*
I keep my lighter in that pocket
The scientist thing reminded me of How Spider-Man 3 Should Have Ended.
"Eh, it's probably a bird."
"Well why don't you look out the window and make sure before we mutate the hell out of something!"
I thought the same thing.
Rob: "Doug?! You're the STAMPS GOBLIN?"
Doug: "Yes. Don't tell Chaplin."
:::falls over dead:::
Chaplin: Hi! I'm Chaplin!
@@haihai9022 Lloyd: "Sigh."
@@wstine79 Chaplin: Hi Lloyd! I'm Chaplin!
I cannot lie: I cried my eyes out at the end of Spider Man 3
Oh thank you! Harry's death moved me to ugly crying as a kid! So did Sandman telling his side of the story, and Peter forgiving him. It really got to me.
I cried at the end of Pirates of the Caribbean At World's End, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2, Avengers Infinity War and Avengers Endgame.
All the best movies make us cry.
All the worst movies make us laugh.
@@Bartman1989-i2z Lord of the rings: return of the king?
We all did
Harrys death hit me hard after 15 years
Fans:"Because of you will never see Sam Rami's spider man 4!"
Sony:"Yeah what's it mean to you!"
Fans:"EVERYTHING!"
Don't get vulture and his daughter and mysterio before homecoming and far from home even though they were concept
Honest to God I happy we didn't get it.
No Way Home was worth it after 14 years of not seeing Tobey as he web slinger
Honestly the spiderman 4 script was awful
Awful
Cinemawins had an explanation for Peter kissing Gwen. He said that if people knew that Spider-Man had a loved one, people would go after them so the kiss was to make people think he didn’t
You'd think that he would've checked w/ Mary Jane first before immediately kissing somebody else.
That's just a fan theory not an explanation. An explanation can only come from those who worked on the movie like the writers, directors, producers. Not some random dude with a youtube channel that just copied another channel's format but with a positive twist.
xD "the black people who had to act like they're digging this"
I did not see that coming, hilarious.
I love Critic for that bc it's facts ! Lol jk
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 forreal tho
Doug’s JJJ is a pretty underrated performance. That was great lol
Scientist 1: "There's a change in silicon mass."
Scientist 2: "It's probably just a bird, it'll fly away when we fire it up."
Scientist 3: "Here's a bright idea, why don't you make sure it's a bird before you mutate the crap out of something just because you were too lazy to run this nighttime sand mutation experiment safely?"
Scientist 2: "Ugh, fine. (looks out the lab window) Huh, that's a big bird down there."
Scientist 1: "Hey, wait a minute. That's not a bird, that's a man."
Jared Gagnon Honest Trailers 👍🏻
Actually @@webbers4life146, it's How It Should Have Ended.
You don’t understand. I have a daughter, she’s really sick. That makes it okay for me to break the law. I’m not a bad guy.
@@sloanewalker42 , but you killed a guy and got(I assume) your friend killed when the robbery went belly up.
I'm not a bad guy!
Scientists 2: "Fire it up anyway."
And I actually liked the movie. Yes it’s bad but it’s a guilty pleasure
Saverio Panaccione I was 11 when this film came out and I enjoyed it as much as the previous ones.
Years later, it definitely has very obvious flaws, but I can’t help but have a soft spot for it. Not everything in 3 was shit. The birth of Sand Man is still one of my favorite scenes.
Me too. Plus, I have a soft spot for ASM 2 (ducks)
@@galaxy_kitten95 Spider-Man 3 is still better than whatever trash Tom Holland will be in.
At it worst this is still better than either of the Garfield movies. Not even close.
@@stephensporman8206 YES! THANK YOU! Amazing Spider-Man movies were crap
"The Internet is Colorblind." Ain't that the truth. Everything's either good or bad, black or white. But I like this review for saying this movie, and most movies, do have some good qualities to them and just because they aren't perfect doesn't mean you have to hate them and call them the worst thing ever to exist
Exactly. There are some things that I absolutely love but will admit they have some flaws (or can acknowledge they're just not for everybody), and there are some things I hate but will admit their good points. Not sure what's so hard about doing that. I don't think I've ever seen a negative review that I've taken personally to the point of going off on someone; if I disagree with their opinion I either respectfully point out why *I* like the thing or I move on, simple as that. As for responding to negative tweets, I don't do that either because I just stay the hell away from Twitter (as should ALL people who want to reduce the stress in their lives by 98%).
I was shocked Doug didn't hate it
To be fair, as a movie on it's own, it wasn't that bad... just incredibly flawed and a disappointment. They did Venom wrong.
I've been saying this for years as well. I'm so tired of everything having to be boiled down to either being the worst thing ever, or the best thing ever. Kinda like when discussing characters in a game. Like take something like League of Legends, if a champion in there might be slightly suboptimal, suddenly they get touted as being fucking unplayable and garbage, when in fact, they might just be a bit niche and hard to play properly.
That's not exactly how colorblindness works.
The irony on his sponsor ad is amazing
I think it would’ve been better if Harry acted like he had amnesia and was pulling the strings the whole time with . Leading to the house fight . Damn this movie should’ve focused on Peter , MJ , and Harry .
With a sprinkle of Sandman .....
I’ll let myself out .
Bruce Wayne god dammit! You got me! Here take this like
Aunt May: “...and that’s when he whipped it out. They didn’t call him Ben 10-inches for nothing.” 😂
😂
😂
😂
Might as well join in so 😂
Ohh hi harry
I like how for years people have told me that Venom should've been the only villain...
While i always thought that Sandman was good enough on his own
I always thought it should have been Sandman and New Goblin working together instead.
I would have preferred if they did Venom suit Spidey and Green Goblin, and make the ending be a teaser for the fourth film where we get Eddie Brock and Sandman. Basically splitting it into two movies to give the everyone more screen time.
Ivan Cerecer apparently venom wasn’t supposed to be in the film at all. Producers forced Sam to add him in against his will.
It’s funny because knowing that Raimi doesn’t even like Venom and really just wanted Sandman and Harry as his villains made me realize just how much more passionate the Sandman scenes are, the way they’re shot, the time spent on them, etc. Venom was lazily written in and I can see the lack of that passion since Raimi was forced by Sony to include him.
Fun fact: Harry's Butler is Bill Paxton's father
Peter Parker: And I, uh... I did this.
[shot of Spidey doing the emo dance from "Spider-Man 3"]
Peter Parker We don't really talk about this.
The physical representation of the internet is actually pretty accurate.
Yeah, but they should've thrown a a furry and a troll into the mix.
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At least they were accurate in the internet refusing to admit its wrong and only thinking its right. If they had him be offended by everything Critic said that would be so accurate we could confuse him as the internet.
WRONG!
Spider man 3 was the first movie that got me to love and forgive and understand the villain. And kinda gave me chills for how relatable "I like being bad. It makes me happy" line.
"A snowboarding St. Patricks day shredder" LMAO!
1:39 “if I said it, it must be true”
That’s the most J Jonah Jameson line I’ve ever heard
Well, TO BE FAIR, as shitty as Jameson can be, he’s actually one of the few people in the comics who has pride and respect for his profession. He actually gives a shit about journalistic integrity and is the first one to call out bullshit when he sees it. If Jameson claims something is true, then he probably means it and has the evidence to back it up. He may hate Spider-Man, but not even that is enough to want to tarnish his reputation if he didn’t actually commit any crimes.
And will protect employees.
@@gothicMCRgirl Depends on who's writing him. Marvel Comics nowadays is ditching continuity and established character development for being topical, and JJJ can perfectly represent everything wrong with the media. I think back during "Dark Reign", he sang the praises of Norman Osborne, Director of H.A.M.M.E.R. ANd when he was Mayor of NYC, he extended his grudge against Spider-Man to ALL the Avengers. And you watched the end credit stinger to Far From Home, right?
"But when I'm dead you're gonna cry" XD
;-; God I miss him
I'm legitimately angry with this joke
28:06 he had the perfect opportunity to say "i want to kill the spider, you want to kill the spider" and then he transforms and he says "WE want to kill the spider. wanna join me?
what a wasted perfect scene that was
Sam Raimi didn't like Venom much and thought the character lacked humanity
I was one of those people who stayed in the theater, while a lot of people walked out of Spider Man 3! It was one of those movies that got way too much hate!
Remember seeing this in the theater and everyone loved it.
Agree
That’s true
I walked out during the green goblin fight at the start because it was too loud for my sensitive ears lmao
LMAO!!!!!! I distantly remember people walking out of Spider-Man 3 right after the club dance scene.
I honestly like the "emo Peter Parker" scene and its cringe. Cause Peter, this Peter, is an awkward nerd who has no clue what cool is. So all of this is exactly how someone like that would act if they were suddenly über confident
@@Hobie02425 nothing really, because Sam Raimi didn't liked the black costume saga, or rather he never read it. He was forced to put it so he pulled a "Now dig on this"
@@Hobie02425 Actually it does and why it's brilliant. Peter has since the start of this trilogy been CONSTANTLY shit on by life but now when he's finally getting some recognition that what Spider-Man does is helping people it starts to go to his head and inflate his ego which is why he's so dismissive of MJ's problems then once he gets the black suit that ego is turned up to 11 and since Peter has always been an awkward, anti-social nerd this IS what he thinks being cool and confident is like. The suit is corrupting him and bringing out his worst aspects. Petty, vengeful, vanity, etc capping off when he hits MJ.
If I wanted a more comic-book depiction of the black suit I'd watch the Alien Costume three-parter from Spider-Man TAS.
Oddly enough this is very Venom
Like in the movie Eddie is a lil dorky and awkward
I can actually imagine a scene in the film where Eddie and Venom enter a club and Eddie starts awkwardly dancing badly and everybody including Venom thinks its bad so Venom takes control of his body to give some super awesome dance moves
I loved this movie when I was a 7 year old kid and to be honest is still do because of nostalgia.
I saw it when it came out in the theater. I'm 24 now and I still think it's a lot of fun. Has some genuinely good scenes.
I think it's a good movie even with it's flaws
@@Disconnect350 Same. 😅
"I think Spider-Man needs Jesus" best line here. Definitely best fake conversation.
I swear, that was probably your funniest sponsorship promo ad ever.
I agree!
As a Black person, he is absolutely right about that scene.
Because every black person is the same? Well stated.
@@startrekalien I don't remember saying that. Seems you have a personal problem
startrekalien that was a good point
@@codo820 Sorry but I read between the lines. He sure represented us lol
@@startrekalien I mean you can read into it whatever you want but maybe you'll do better not to project your issues onto things.
Doug’s playing as J.K Simmons playing J Jonah Jameson is just as good as J.K Simmons playing J Jonah Jameson.
4:33 This is the best depiction of a part of the internet ever.
IMHO, the film should have focused on:
Harry's arc
Peter and MJ's relationship
Eddie Brock/Venom
Gwen Stacy, her dad, and Sandman add little to nothing to the film when I really think about it.
Sandman's story just ends, and the Stacys just fade into the background once Venom hits the scene.
Raimi didn't want to do Venom so soon, he saved that concept for the 4th or 5th movie, Sony said, fuck that, this is the last film and it needs Venom, Raimi wanted Sandman for the third, and we got too many plotlines happening. I agree though, a lack of Gwen Stacy would've helped, but I think Venom should've been shelved as well over Sandman.
No, t should have focused on Sandman, not Venom. As Motodog242 said, Venom was something that the series was still building to. Cramming him into this movie ruined it. Without him here, most likely, we would have gotten more set up with JJ's son, and he'd most likely have been tied into how Venom reaches Earth (astronaut, alien life form). But without time to develop that, we get this mess. And you'll notice too that the Sandman stuff is the better done stuff, because that's what Riami was invested in, what he had prepared for.
I say harry + mj struggles with the black suit then tease Eddie Brock at the end setting up venom as the villain in movie 4
A few people have pointed this out, so I'll try and say something new. Venom was forced into the movie by Sony against Raimi's wishes. I think focusing on Sandman would make for a far more focused story, leaving room for Peter and Mary Jane's relationship and Harry's story. This way we wouldn't have cringe worthy dance scenes and the romantic could be more developed. Other than that I agree with Critic in removing the amnesia storyline and making Harry more of a scheming villain, and I agree that the Stacy's should have been removed. Something I would've done is have Peter tell Harry about his father's death (like he was trying to do after Mary Jane's Broadway show). It would make more sense then the butler doing it.
I would understand throwing Gwen and Eddie in 3 to set him up as Venom in the 4th. We know Raimi didn’t want Venom in 3 but Sony did, I’m surprised they didn’t bite to pump out more movies
I feel like Sam Raimi was playing a game of chicken with Avi Arad: "I'll make the Venom storyline so awful, he'll make me cut it from the film!" Unfortunately, nobody blinked.
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*Corona virus breaks out*
*Chris Stuckmann:* Damn it!
*Jeremy Jahns:* Damn it!
*Cosmonaut Variety:* Damn it!
*Yourmoviesucks:* Damn it!
*Sean Chandler:* Damn it!
*Karsten Runquist:* Damn it!
*Nostalgia Critic:* *ehehehheehehehehehehehe*
No joke, this might the most fair unbiased review of Spider-Man 3 that I've ever seen.
Honestly, I agree with pretty much all of Doug’s opinions in this film. This is basically how I would do a review on this film. The film’s not perfect, but it has plenty of great moments. Every Spider-Man movie has something great even if it’s not the best.
When you talked about bruce Campbell's cameo characters all being the same dude it made me laugh because that was actually sam raimis intention. His cameos are actually as Quentin beck, who would be the main villain, mysterio in spiderman 4
That's not true. Bruce Campbell was interviewed recently and said it was all BS. BC is just Sam's buddy and the concept art was just art.
Fan theory: every Bruce Campbell character in these movies is Ash from Evil Dead1,2/Army of Darkness after he gets fired from S-Mart and just keeps getting fired from different jobs until Value Stop in Ash vs. Evil Dead. He just loves to screw with customers' heads like Peter.
So Ash regrew his hand, became a wrestling anouncer that met the human spider, got fired, became a ticket usher at a broadway show where he meets Peter. Turns him away and causes his emotional arch, got fired and learned terrible french, and got a job where he helps Parker try to propose. Wow that is a stretch. Groovy.
5:08
NC: *Shows One More Day*
Everyone: *Screams in rages.*
Me: Yeah, I heard the legends of this comic. But, dang. That is a lot of hate.
Go watch Linkara's review of it.
@@ArchonSeachmall I did watch it a long time ago. And yeah, I did first heard of that comic from Linkara.
@@KubatheChangeling The real kicker? He just did a review where another Spidey made a deal with Mephisto, and it's handled better in every possible way.
He did this when he decided to review Sam Rami Spiderman and was not favorable to it.
Nostalgia Critic: “EVERYone says that EVERYthing in this movie is the worst.”
Inigo Montaya: “You use that word ‘every’ a lot. I do not think you know what it means.”
Reminds of when literally everybody says the word "literally" in literally all their sentences
Pirate Style Jutsu He said that everyone despises Iron Man 2 when that simply isn’t the case. Iron Man 2 has a 7/10 average rating on IMDb and a 71% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes which is pretty good.
Twin Kids Yeah, I recently rewatched Iron Man 2 after years of writing it off as “meh”, and it’s actually a lot better than I remembered.
That quote you used describes the reason why Captain Marvel is “bad”
I don't think you know what hyperbole means.