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I think the best thing about this movie is the casting; Brandon as superman was perfect, say what you will about Kevin but I think he was a good Lex Luthor, and the rest of the supporting cast. Fun fact: Henry Cavill was in the running to play superman in this. Glad they waited 6 yrs to give him the part.
I'll be 100% fair: this movie looks very good in almost every aspects, including the cast. What killed it for me was the script and pace. The dialogue wasn't the worst but jeez sometimes I felt bad for the actors: "it's not like the train set" was what killed my two remaining braincells and it was only the beginning! Sure, characters aren't sometimes portrayed as bright but the lines and decisions made by these people made me wish sometimes that they would die...
Kevin Spacey is a great actor and his Luthor *should* have been great, but the version of the character in the movie is TERRIBLE, an angry troll who doesn't really does or says anything smart, wastes advanced alien tech on another harebrained real estate scam, and bonks an old woman to get back into business.
Seriously, dude, when he popped up, I'm there watching Critic and thinking "Where's the gun?".... but _then_ I remember this is _not_ exactly time for _that_ kind of humor period, and it goes off like "Riiiiiiight.... this comedy show is _nowhere near_ as inappropriate and tone-def as the 'leader' of the US right now... too much class for that joke..."
@@KaiKrimson56 Channel Awesome is basically dead in terms of variety; after the document that exposed all the bullshit going on behind the scenes (their manager being the main evil) everyone who worked there left in droves; Linkara, Angry Joe, Cinema Snob, etc. Some of them claim that they wanted more creative freedoms so they split off from CA, but the writing was on the wall. It's clear they left due to the controversy. All that's left is NC and his misc skit friends with occasional input from other creators.
Not only that, I felt like it was a great example of ramming a point home too much. I was like Ok we get it, the Superman X ray scenes are creepy, we get the point. And the worst part is, that joke/gag came right after Critic complaining about scenes in this movie dragging for too long. Oh the irony....or hypocrisy haha
@Esa Välilä Maybe ;) But i still dont think the joke was integrated very well 😂😂 It sort of reminds me of Critic's mental breakdown/rant in the beginning of his review for Scooby Doo back in 2012 *shudder*
What I find truly tragic is that Brandon Routh was a pretty good casting for Clark Kent/Superman. It's a shame there wasn't a good story behind him. So basically the 80's Supergirl movie doesn't exist either. I mean...if the Routh Superman had found Argo City and was covering it up that he has a Super cousin it would have explained his absence quite nicely.
You know, that idea of him finding Argo City felt like a big wasted opportunity to me at first, because you are right about it being a good explanation. But then I remembered that would make the Supergirl movie canon... The price to pay was too big, wasn't it?
you know there's an even worse comic book movie starring Routh as the main character? luckily or not it isn't paricularly easy to remember but unfortunately for me i saw it, and reaaded the comics too... Dylan dog death of night is like dragon ball evolution but this time almost nobody has ever watched dragon ball to begin with, rather than just the movie director
I would just like for him to have another Superman movie, as a side project separate from the main DC continuity, where he actually gets to fight Lex Luthor, instead of just getting his ass kicked by him, and his henchmen.
And the worst part is, it really overstayed its welcome. And the fact that it was in the same video where Critic was complaining that some scenes dragged on unnecessarily made it all the more cringy. Just my opinion.
One of the best casting decisions in this was Brandon Routh as he looks more like his comic book counterpart than what Henry Cavill does. The sad thing is they didn't really give him much dialogue when he was Superman. One of the better things about the 1978 motion picture was the conversations between the man of steel and Lois. Particularly the interview in her apartment. There was nothing like that in Superman Returns.
Arc redemption I like that elseworlds storyline remember it's not main Canon superman that would turn evil if lois died he instead would become kingdom come .
@@vishall8246 Maybe, but you have to consider a bunch of other factors. In Kingdom Come, Joker just gassed and killed Lois and his friends at the Daily Planet. He's depressed that he couldn't save them, but it's not enough to break him. In Injustice, Lois was pregnant with his kid, and Joker didn't just kill Lois, he made Superman snuff her and the kid's lives out with his own hands, as well as the entirety of Metropolis. That shit is way above and beyond levels of extreme, kingdom come lois's death doesn't even compare.
I think the script and pacing was the worst. It made the movie hurt my brain while moving at a slug's pace. Although the film has nice visuals and humor sometimes... That I can't take away from it!
@@NaturallyMeeee I think it was good for what they had to work with. We know Tom wasn’t going to get in the suit and thus not fight. The fact he was willing to come back at all is wonderful and does pay homage to Smallville. I would rather get something then nothing at all.
Here's how the movie should've started: Superman is at his peak. He's loved by everyone, Lex is in prison, he's married to Lois and has a son. Whilst he's out flying, then comes the announcement that Krypton survivors may have been spotted. He's filled with emotion and doesn't think what he's hearing through. He instantly leaves. We get a shot of Lex laughing when he finds out Superman left then boom, title card. This creates the idea to the audience that Luthor has been planning this whole thing. When he returns to Earth, he's hated by everyone. Lex is out, has become loved by the city. Where there once was a statue of Superman, there exists now one of Lex. Lex is now trying to manipulate Superman's son to join his side. Make it personal. Put the blame on Superman. Male him feel responsible. Actually kill off Lois to hammer it home. That superman leaving screwed everyone over. Also, you can include that his mother died during those 5 years he was away. Really get to him.
That's actually not a bad movie idea. Though it might be more interesting if Superman confronted Lex, who smugly reveals that he didn't do anything; people felt betrayed by Superman leaving and lost hope in him ever returning. Essentially, there's no-one to blame for the city turning against Superman. Clark made a mistake and is paying for it. Lex just took advantage of the situation.
@@oliviarogers3559 While witness tesimony is used as evidence, it is seen as lesser than DNA, objects (such as murder weapons), film or images, self-conviction. etc. Many Lawyers praise My Cousin Vinny for it being very accurate to the court system, and they needed more than simoly witness testimony.
@@oliviarogers3559 most witness testimonies, are not very reliable that's why their usually followed up by evidence, making the testimony just extra back up to confirm the evidence. In the past they relied way to much on witness testimonies which lead to false imprisonments and dead witness's.
For clarifications, appellate courts review what a trial court did through the written records. They don't call witnesses because that was the trial court's job.
Isn't there a procedure for even appellate courts to call in a witness to testify on evidence or proceedings that were found to be unclear without further explanation after the fact?
Things I actually do like: * Lois' husband is actually heroic and likeable. He's not just a plotpoint to be overcome by Superman. *Which leads me to the next part of Superman and Lois not getting back together. Shows that not all relationships are that uncomplicated. *Floating in space, hearing the whole planet. Great shot
I think it's great that the Rebirth Superman comics actually bothered to explore Superman as a father to his son. They're really heartfelt and surprisingly (and ironically) down to earth
Then Michael Bendis came, didn't want to write a married Superman with a son, so he separated Clark and Lois and aged up Jonathan Kent to young adulthood, made him a MLM person, and thus ended ruining the entire family dynamic.
Oddly enough, the first time I saw this was on a date with a girl who had never known any Superman lore whatsoever. So I guess some people did come into this needing that opening text. Side note: she’s now the biggest Superman nerd I know, so this movie did its job right on some level.
Cool to know. From needing the opening text to biggest Superman nerd. That's quite a change. Loved the comment as Superman happens to be my favorite character. I wonder what her opinion is about this movie. Most people don't like it. I fell asleep when i watched the first time. But i like it now. It could have been much better.
I can't agree with that. Spacey's Lex feels kind of neutered to me. It's like after every first take in this movie, Singer took Spacey aside and said "Kevin, I think you should maybe tone it back a bit." There are good moments for sure, but Spacey's Luthor has the same problem as Gene Hackman's: the director got the perfect guy for the job and didn't let him do his thing. At least Zack Snyder let Jesse Eisenberg go apeshit and make his Luthor memorable and unique as opposed to just being a comedic foil for Superman.
@@benwasserman8223 I've seen Cryer's Lex Luthor. And that's a case of an interesting performance being brought down by a mediocre show. The direction writing and editing make his performance father pedestrian. You almost have to take your time in writing Lex Luthor and deciding what you want to do with the character. He's definitely allowed more leeway than Spacey or Hackman, but it's still a little too safe for my tastes.
@@blakeadamson1576 Idk everyone who's loved the show thinks Cryer is fantastic. And he gets the manipulative chess master persona in a way only Clancy Brown's version understands.
6:43. Actually, in Superman 3, it was mentioned that Clark's mother died. In Superman 4, he was selling (though not actually sold) the farm. And if the two did take place then Lois' condition would've been noticeable. Then again, in Superman 2, the control panel was destroyed, and in Superman: The Movie, Krypton was dust, destroyed by Rao when it too was destroyed (Unless you take into consideration the time it'd take for the light to reach Earth thereby giving the impression it was intact despite the fact that it was destroyed thousands of years ago)... Actually, continuity be damned!
What's even stranger is that when we revisit this reality in Crisis on Infinite Earths, it's made pretty clear that they're following up from Returns (same actor, same theme music, the kid is mentioned by name, etc.).... yet they briefly reference Superman III as having happened. ("Not the first time I've fought myself.") Somehow. Granted, it's delivered as a one-off joke, but still adding to the tradition of screwy continuity.
Granted it's been a long time since I've seen the movie, but I just love how Clark and Superman disappear at the same time and return at the same time and no one mentions it. Plus when Superman is in his coma, no one's asking where Clark is. Hell at least Dawn of Justice said Clark died in the attacks after SM was killed.
Wow, I don't know what to say to you. I mean, do you expect these people to notice that, when they were fooled by his masterful disguise of "Clark Kent" ?
nola bratteig Overload 25 is probably referring to The Order of the Phoenix teaser. There was never a time Warner Bros. didn’t re-release Goblet of Fire.
Not to defend this movie, but Superman also doesn't punch anyone in the original 1978 film. I don't even think that there was an action sequence until the last act other than the helicopter scene.
I mean, if Superman punches anyone outside of a high endurance villain that person is pink mist. And Superman has a thing about savagely killing people.
@9752matt That's just it though: Superman believes everyone is capable of doing good, which is why he doesn't kill. Doing so would deprive everyone, even the villains, of the ability to choose whether or not to do good.
Unlike 1978 film, this movie doesn't have well rounded characters, a good chemistry between leads, colors, emotion. So it desperately needs some punching to distract us from boredom.
Actually in crisis on infinite earths even though his part was short he did a pretty good job at being kingdom come superman and he even fought another version of him .
I remember the end of that movie TED and Patrick Stewart narrated the epilogue with, "Sam Jones is now living in a studio apartment with fellow actor Brandon Routh. Remember Brendan Routh? He starred in that god awful SUPERMAN movie! I mean, Jesus Christ, talking about getting your hopes up and then taking a shit on all of us!" 😂
Seth McFarlane and Patrick Stewart are good friend in real life, and cast mates on American Dad. Stewart has also played parodies of his Capt. Picard Star Trek character in Family Guy cutaways, as well as himself in the episode where Stewie kidnapped the entire TNG cast (and killed Denise Crosby).
@@johnjsal when critic and Tamara are trying to get Malcolm to go away, they repeat the lines where Johnny and Lisa are trying to get Denny out of their bedroom
That's good. He also sees you when he closes his... Yeah, at first he was just gonna keep his eyes open and staring at us all the time like all other creeps, but we're talking about the guy who figured out how to use the three sea shells. Of course he was gonna go one step beyond.
Well kids are the target audience and they really would not know (and there is always new audiences anyway, expecially in other countries) so I don’t know why people are suprised this needs to be explained again.
This was the first movie I ever saw in the movie theater when I was a kid. As a kid, I loved Superman! Watched the old cartoons, had the action figures, read some of the comics, etc. When I was 5 years old, I went to the movie theater for the first time with my dad and we saw Superman Returns on the big screen. I was so blown away by that movie, loved it so much. I re-watched it before I watched this video and I think it’s still pretty good in my opinion all these years later.
12:18 - Lois say's that Superman is 125 pounds!!! I never noticed this before (likely due to how boring the movie is) but I had to do a triple take to make sure I heard it correctly. I'm sure they meant 225lbs but I can't unhear it now and it's really screwing with my head, lol.
If you're reffering to Brandon, he would eventually be casted as Ray Palmer in Arrow and return to being Superman in Crisis If you're reffering to Tom Welling, he would be casted as Cain in Lucifer and also come back as Superman
@@ezelfrancisco1349 Well more like came back, betrayed e verything about his character by giving up his powers when the world needs him for his own selfishness. Leaving his children defenseless if another super villain shows up and he can't protect them. Hears the multiverse is collapsing and will destroy all sentient life, laughs at it, then goes to see what his rugrats painted on the wall. Yep, he came back alright. As Selfishman. Now, get this, heres how it should've went down. Tom Wellings Supes hears about the multiverse collapsing, asks if there's anyone else on it and is told that there's a whole group of people. He tells them that he must protect his own home as there's some disaster going on and he has to stay there to deal with it. Let's say Darkseid is back and has taken over the world, he can't just leave that because of the multiverse, if he does people will definitely die whereas if he lets the other heroes handle it, they could very well succeed while him staying behind could make sure no one else suffers while he's out saving the rest of them. He says he cannot help because of this and everyone understands, we can still do the Lex Luthor part but just say maybe he built up a tolerance to Kryptonite after being on earth for so long and being exposed to Kryptonite over and over, Lex has to run back to Charlie and live in his lakehouse afterwards. THERE, character saved. But instead we got what we got because Tom Welling was tired of everyone asking him to be Superman again and he just wanted to be done with it. Plus it was a neat little paycheck. Face it, Tom Welling hated the role, hated us and wanted to be free of it.
Two thoughts. 1) you skipped over what could be the best line (in a bad scene). When he and Lois are flying and he talks about how he can hear everyone begging for help 2) One of my biggest pet peeves about this movie is that Lois described kryptonite as "irradiated pieces of his home world" and then Lex makes a continent of kryptonite. So, is his real estate scheme to sell homes on chernobyl island?
Especially stupid since comic fans know that kryptonite affects humans too and actually killed Luthor once from radiation poisoning... so even if he doesn't know it in THIS continuity... it's still a stupid idea from the fans point of view...
@@phantom1592 yeah, only brought up the Lois line because I mentioned kryptonite being radioactive to someone once (I've dwelled on this a lot) and he was like well it's a different universe so maybe the rules are different. I was like, no! She mentioned it earlier in the movie
@@tyrant-den884 Not to mention if you reduce the world population by a few billion then extra living space isn't going to be so desirable anymore (heck there are vast spaces of uninhabited land already, partly because it's not suitable for human habitation, much as a giant hunk of rock doesn't make for ideal beachfront property).
@@tyrant-den884 Lex Luthor ' s scheme was beyond stupid here, hardly worthy of the greatest criminal mind of our time. I mean, aside from the absurdity of the giant mass of crystalline radioactive rock, Lex stupidly launches his scheme without saving his yacht. I mean, he needs transportation. Duh. Also, his helicopter certainly doesn't have enough fuel to get to the mainland. Also, how is he going to claim this rock, and how is he going to communicate to the outside world? Why was he so eager to set up shop with only suitcases of money to live on? Why d8d he not keep the remaining crystals on his own person rather than giving them to his moll? This Lex Luthor was an idiot.
The #1 thing I remember from this film was when me and my parents went to see it in theaters and Superman was using his X-Ray vision on Lois's house and my dad just goes, "Superman, the Super Stalker" That's my main memory of this film.
"There's nothing 'super' about this film." I take objection to that! The flying effects are PHENOMENALLY done. I absolutely believe that this Superman is completely unaffected by gravity. The way he holds his body, his featherlight take-offs and landings, the smooth fluidity of the motions....come on, if that's not the one thing that deserves some appreciation, what is??
@@Ol_Lochy No, but as the Critic said, he did interact with the people in the original movie, he had a great chemistry with Lois, Lois was funny and Christopher Reeves gave an upbeat, charismatic performance. It's as if Brian Singer asked Kate and Brandon to act the whole film as a pair of marble statues, but even more bland.
“16 minutes” I’m also pretty sure we’re nearly an hour into the Donner film before Superman saves the helicopter. The difference isn’t how great the action scene is. The Donner film actually told interesting stories leading up to that. The destruction of Krypton, Clark losing his Earth father to something not even his powers could prevent, Clark’s first day in Metropolis and dealing with city life. The Donner film for the most part is a masterclass in keeping your audience engaged. This movie fails because almost every idea it brings up is executed in a hollow fashion. If Lois had completely given up on Superman under Donner’s direction and Mankiewicz’s writing, it would take more than saying sorry and saving her to make her change her mind. If they had a kid together, that would’ve been explored. Returns tried too hard to imitate the style of those films without realizing what was important.
its kinda funny how donner he made first the movie about the individual that will doom humanity in the omen, and then he made the move about the individual that wll save it with superman.
My big problem with Superman Returns is that it tries so hard to replicate the feel of the Donner-era Superman movies too much even down to quoting lines (the whole "I hope this experience hasn't put you off flying" line for example) from the older movies. Like the Critic said, it's heart was in the right place, but I think that the film should have had the magic of the Donner films combined with the action and emotional complexity of modern comic book movies. Say what you want about Man of Steel (I think it's underrated), but at least it tried to do something different with Superman (and he actually throws a punch, unlike this movie).
It's not that it's 16 minutes into the movie - it's that the scene itself is 16 minutes long, from cause to end of the rescue. The helicopter scene in contrast is under 5.
I mean, you know what people would be saying if that were actually a thing? "Oh god DC is ripping off Spider-Man by using a love interest of the protagonist to be a different version of Superman (or Supergirl in this case)" Because y'know Gwen Stacy from a parallel universe is Spider-Man and she's pretty popular these days. So it feels like people would just jump straight into that logic from the get go.
Kryptonite immunity could make sense if thought of in terms of genetics. "Just like both parents must pass on a sickle cell anemia gene in order for the disease to be fully present, both parents must be Kryptonian in order to produce a kryptonite-sensitive offspring. Or, perhaps sensitivity becomes a trait after puberty. Still, check that kid for radiation injuries." I guess the asthma could be written to make sense as well: an improbable mutation or a weird/unexpected result of combining human (Lois) with a Kryptonian who was shot through space and shot with all kinds of who-knows-what's during battles. But exploring those ideas would have taken away screen time from the nameless characters forgotten right after they aren't on camera. WHY LEARN MORE ABOUT THE HALF-ALIEN KID OF THE MAIN CHARACTER?
Then The recent multiverse event happens and Brandon Routh is finally humanized AND gives a huge cheesy late 80's smile at the camera to make up for all of it.
"Why did we need to know she wears pearls?" Yeah, whose movie is this? Batman's? (Though they do both have moms named Martha) "Nuclear Man was stupid, but at least it was new." Doomsday (killing machine created by Lex Luthor using Kryptonian DNA mixed with his own which absorbed the power of a nuke) approves this message. "Remember that Superman reboot where they killed his son as well as Lois?" Injustice Joker's laughing in the corner right now. Well, at least Routh's Superman was great in Crisis on Infinite Earths.
haha, Cat said: "Ya know what? You're not paying attention to me...so I'm going to get RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE of what you're doing." As cats do...so freaking often! XD
Parker Posey being in this film annoys me because she could have been the perfect Lois Lane in this film opposite Brandon Routh’s Clark Kent, she has the looks of Lois and has the perfect personality and she just has a personality in general heck James Marsden being in this film annoys me as he could have been a great Superman however I am so glad Routh got the role except I’m annoyed he didn’t get to do more as he is perfect casting Superman’s son in this film should have been a clone made by Lex Luthor after having visited the Fortress of Solitude
Even the video game of Superman Returns had a better plot; the graphics by EA were terrible, but at least Superman got to go up against villains like Mongul, Bizarro, Riot, Mxyzptlk, a giant Metallo. Why not make Metallo a villain in this Donnorverse Superman movie? Or Mongul? If Superman's gonna lift something big out of Earth's atmosphere, at least make it the War World! There is so much potential, but Singer just rehashed the '78 plot.
@@joshpart3319 I think it was because he had a continent-sized chunk of rock in between, wasn't it? Or maybe I'm thinking something was mentioned, but maybe not. Maybe it is a big plot hole. I do recall the Kryptonite poking through, and seeing Superman really struggling with that, like the protection gained from the giant slab in between breaking up.
@@joshpart3319 it's meant to be a metaphor of how if we all reach down in and find the best parts of ourselves and try our best we can accomplish things that we didn't know we could.
The only thing I remember from this movie was how Lex Luther said “Krrrriptonite” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Also that the role of superman was in Scott Pilgrim vs the World 😂😂😂😂 Love your videos NC :)
9:08 "Apparently, we're in American Toy Story right now." XD That could make a hilarious crossover given that Disney owns both franchises. XD With how amazing the intros the show has, that would be an awesome idea to parody an opening of AHS for Nostalgia-Ween. 😊 By coincidence, my mom is watching an episode of Legends of Tomorrow which had a Superman played by Brandon Ruth. XD
I really love this film. I know a lot of people have issues with this being "boring" and I get it. Its a slower paced film. But I love Brandon Routh as Superman, Superman returning to a world that has moved on from a savior and I love that leaving has had consequences on his relationship with Lois. Maybe I have nostalgia down with this film since it was my first Superman and first cinema experience I watched but I just think its an excellent Superman film.
Did anyone make it through this movie without falling asleep?
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Anything's possible during quarantine for example i watch the transformers movie.
Eh I didn't bother watching it.
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That bit with Malcom was easily the creepiest funniest shit I've seen all day
Lol i especially love how they froze frame on his creepy smile over sponsor ad.
That was the first time I've sat through the ad, lol!
I was laughing so much that I mm dying of laughter idk why but I'm am.
You can tell the madness from the quarantine becoming worse than the pandemic.
@@Gameact3 For who, us or the cast of this show? That image will be burned into my mind for days.
Okay the Malcolm joke was hilarious. Thumbs up just for that.
I personally think the fact that they had it drawn out so long and ACKNOWLEDGE it made it hilarious!!!
To paraphrase the Rocky and Bullwinkle review: 'I don't know how many more fourth walls we can break."
Malcolm as Denny from The Room. That is just priceless!
Definitely one of the better sponsored ads.
I swear Malcolm scares me now. LOL
I love how Malcolm is interfering with the sponcership.
And I love that the sponsor let them do it!
I know creepy, yet funny
Sponsorship right?
It's very Andy Coffman! 😃
I read this comment before watching, and I was a bit disappointed that he wasn't in the legit youtube ads also. LOL
I think the best thing about this movie is the casting; Brandon as superman was perfect, say what you will about Kevin but I think he was a good Lex Luthor, and the rest of the supporting cast.
Fun fact: Henry Cavill was in the running to play superman in this. Glad they waited 6 yrs to give him the part.
They actually looked like their comic book counterparts which is rare now.
Ironically, Amy Adams also auditioned for Lois Lane, both in Singers' movie AND the Brett Ratner concept. 😎
@@DTWX I didn't know that. That is cool.
I'll be 100% fair: this movie looks very good in almost every aspects, including the cast.
What killed it for me was the script and pace. The dialogue wasn't the worst but jeez sometimes I felt bad for the actors: "it's not like the train set" was what killed my two remaining braincells and it was only the beginning!
Sure, characters aren't sometimes portrayed as bright but the lines and decisions made by these people made me wish sometimes that they would die...
Kevin Spacey is a great actor and his Luthor *should* have been great, but the version of the character in the movie is TERRIBLE, an angry troll who doesn't really does or says anything smart, wastes advanced alien tech on another harebrained real estate scam, and bonks an old woman to get back into business.
The Malcolm scary stare during the advert brake was really funny.
I had to look away to hear what he was talking about.
Seriously, dude, when he popped up, I'm there watching Critic and thinking "Where's the gun?".... but _then_ I remember this is _not_ exactly time for _that_ kind of humor period, and it goes off like "Riiiiiiight.... this comedy show is _nowhere near_ as inappropriate and tone-def as the 'leader' of the US right now... too much class for that joke..."
It was amazing
It’s like a good creepypasta where it gets into your skin.
Not to mention the dialogue lifted right from The Room.
Little did we all know, Lois' husband is really good friends with My Son, The Astronaut.
He's the best.
wow I was not expecting that reference here but I am 100% here for it!
Best comment
I literally laughed out loud, bravo
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"Why is there a close up shot to her pearls"
Cause Batman!
But her name is Catherine tho....so....nah
At least in Batman stories there is a reason to focus on the pearls as it usually precedes his mom dying.
So you could SEA them better.
anonymous dude
I SEA watcha did there!
😂
@@axelriotwrestling oh really are you shore
God bless James Marsden. He always gets screwed, at least, in every movie I’ve ever seen him in.
Even on Westworld
well there's one exception, *cough cough* sonic
Enchanted? X-Men? Hairspray?
@@SweetGem97 Carrots? Batterys? Lunch Break?
30 rock?
"Why did I need to know she wears pearls?"
Well obviously it was to set up Batman in the next movie.
That’s exactly what I thought!
MARTHA!!!!!
So no one else in the whole city wears pearls but Martha Wayne? That's just dumb
@@adey126 this whole comment section except ur comment is dumb
@@adey126 You right. Especially since no one else has the name Martha. I kid of course, all in harmless fun.
26:57 "Remember that Superman reboot where they killed his son as well as Lois?!"
Yeah, it's called Injustice.
Just about to say that as well. Great, now I wanna see the Critic review Injustice with Linkara and Joe.
The ghost of joker is laughing in his grave
@@metadaneholtzman7816 thats sadly almost never gonna happen now
@@donb7519 Why not?
@@KaiKrimson56 Channel Awesome is basically dead in terms of variety; after the document that exposed all the bullshit going on behind the scenes (their manager being the main evil) everyone who worked there left in droves; Linkara, Angry Joe, Cinema Snob, etc. Some of them claim that they wanted more creative freedoms so they split off from CA, but the writing was on the wall. It's clear they left due to the controversy. All that's left is NC and his misc skit friends with occasional input from other creators.
Let's be honest here: the best part of this movie was Kevin Spacey screaming "WRONG!"
Still is the best part.
RIGHT!
'Nuff said
Well, you are not WRONG about that.
Damn straight.
Malcom: *stares*
Me: *STARES STRONGER TO ASSERT DOMINANCE*
*staring intensifys
Me: stares at both of you so you disintegrate into ash.
@@DangerOctoYT Medusa: Stares in all of your eyes and you all turn to stone.
@@kobatroy3428Or you could say... rock hard.
Malcolm looking at me for almost 3 minutes is probably the creepiest thing I’ve experienced
Not only that, I felt like it was a great example of ramming a point home too much. I was like Ok we get it, the Superman X ray scenes are creepy, we get the point. And the worst part is, that joke/gag came right after Critic complaining about scenes in this movie dragging for too long. Oh the irony....or hypocrisy haha
@@FGH9G orrr...he dragged it out right after saying that..as part of the joke!? That cross your mind? ;)
@@FGH9G it's literally not even close to the same thing
@Esa Välilä
Maybe ;) But i still dont think the joke was integrated very well 😂😂 It sort of reminds me of Critic's mental breakdown/rant in the beginning of his review for Scooby Doo back in 2012 *shudder*
@@FGH9G oookaayy.. ;O
What I find truly tragic is that Brandon Routh was a pretty good casting for Clark Kent/Superman. It's a shame there wasn't a good story behind him.
So basically the 80's Supergirl movie doesn't exist either. I mean...if the Routh Superman had found Argo City and was covering it up that he has a Super cousin it would have explained his absence quite nicely.
So glad he got a briefly better story in CW's Crisis in Infinite Earths.
To bad the Smallville guy didn't.
You know, that idea of him finding Argo City felt like a big wasted opportunity to me at first, because you are right about it being a good explanation. But then I remembered that would make the Supergirl movie canon...
The price to pay was too big, wasn't it?
@@uglyguy2519 The "Supergirl" movie was still superior to this schlock, so... what damage would there have actually been?
Tyrant-Den his existence was nothing more then a glorified cameo, really unfortunate as meant to a combination of Kingdom Come Superman and Reeves.
you know there's an even worse comic book movie starring Routh as the main character? luckily or not it isn't paricularly easy to remember but unfortunately for me i saw it, and reaaded the comics too... Dylan dog death of night is like dragon ball evolution but this time almost nobody has ever watched dragon ball to begin with, rather than just the movie director
I turned my phone off and Malcom was STILL staring at me
*update* so many likes! Thanks everyone!
😂
I closed my eyes and he was still staring at me.
@@thescreenslaver8520 I fell asleep and he was in my dreams still staring at me.
@@RandomRon005
HOW DO WE STOP THIS!!!!?????!!!??
I died and in the afterlife he was still staring at me
Kevin Spacey's line delivery of "Krrryptonite!" is the best part of that movie.
I wasn’t expecting to see a review of this but I’m glad we’re getting it
“A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.” -The Senate, 1999
Are you saying it's the review we deserved, but not the one we needed?
ManDevil yes lol
I was supries that he didnt refences crisis on infinte earths
I actually had a moment think he did do one. Guess I confused the mentioning of the movie in the Superman IV review
The “pearls” shot establishes that the woman is Martha Wayne.... Marthaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Batman: why did you say that name? WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!?!
@@Demon666x3 xD
MARTHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
you guys simply dont understand the COMPLEXITY of that scene. MARTHA line is lot more complex than all of christopher nolan movies
(sarcasm btw)
Ah yes...a relic of WeeWorld.
I didn't fall asleep during the movie.
But more importantly: I can still feel Malcolm's teeth staring into my soul.
Say what you want, I'm glad Brandon Routh got to play Superman one more time. He was seriously underated as Superman.
Agreed
I would just like for him to have another Superman movie, as a side project separate from the main DC continuity, where he actually gets to fight Lex Luthor, instead of just getting his ass kicked by him, and his henchmen.
@@SuperSonicWarrior93that or just have him face off Brainiac
Beecause Brainiac would fit so well with the Donner Superman Movies, rigth? -.-@@anthonysalinas-candelero9978
Did he make that cameo in Arrowverse Crisis on Infinite Earths or the Flash
god damn that creepy Malcolm skit was seriously kind of terrifying
And the worst part is, it really overstayed its welcome. And the fact that it was in the same video where Critic was complaining that some scenes dragged on unnecessarily made it all the more cringy. Just my opinion.
@@FGH9G that's why it was genius
@Geschnitzte Kiste
I sort of get what he was going for, but I felt like it was ramming the point home too much. Just a bit excessive is all.
@@FGH9G But not hypocritical like ya seem to think, lol
Ok maybe not hypocritical lol but I don't think the joke was integrated very well imo. Just my 2 cents.
"this video brought to you by hello fresh"
BUT HOW WILL I GET STAMPS NOW?
STAMPS LOL
With AUDIBLE! Audible of course standing for:
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Still waiting for that compilation video of all of his Stamps commercials lol
Silence!
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Ok that Malcom part being creepy and was being in the sponsor the entire time I couldn't stop laughing 😆
Finally just realized it was a parody of that one scene from the room
He’s still watching 👁
You forgot to mention that the "dying old millionaire" is Noel Neill - Lois Lane from the original 1940s serials and the 50s TV show!
And im sure the "must be tough coming back" barman was also Jimmy Olsen from the original TV series.
Wow!
That’s wrong on so many levels
Mind. Blown.
Random. They couldn't cast her as Lois's mom?
NC: “Fuck that noise he’s lifting a rock! Wooo! A rock!”
Killer Croc: “It was a big rock.”
The outtake at the end with your cat interrupting was so cute.
I know
I HALP! I HALP!!
"You sure we didn't put on Brightburn Returns?"
easily my favorite joke in this review
I was thinking more "The Boys" myself.
69 likes.
Nice
Superman returns? When did he leave?
@@jjj9640 offscreen.
Like how all the action went. x,D
One of the best casting decisions in this was Brandon Routh as he looks more like his comic book counterpart than what Henry Cavill does. The sad thing is they didn't really give him much dialogue when he was Superman. One of the better things about the 1978 motion picture was the conversations between the man of steel and Lois. Particularly the interview in her apartment. There was nothing like that in Superman Returns.
“Hey remember that reboot where they killed Superman’s kid and Lois” oh man I love injustice.
My thoughts exactly when he said that 😂
Arc redemption I like that elseworlds storyline remember it's not main Canon superman that would turn evil if lois died he instead would become kingdom come .
@@vishall8246 Maybe, but you have to consider a bunch of other factors. In Kingdom Come, Joker just gassed and killed Lois and his friends at the Daily Planet. He's depressed that he couldn't save them, but it's not enough to break him. In Injustice, Lois was pregnant with his kid, and Joker didn't just kill Lois, he made Superman snuff her and the kid's lives out with his own hands, as well as the entirety of Metropolis. That shit is way above and beyond levels of extreme, kingdom come lois's death doesn't even compare.
And he guts Joker with his bare hands in a blind fury and later kills Shazam, a 12 year old, by lasering through his head. Shit was hardcore!
Ohhh I thought you meant Crisis on infinite Earths
I bet Malcolm was actually staring and not freeze framed
oof xd
Lol man
Legend has it Kubrick was inspired by the Malcolm Face.
I know it’s like a trick to the eye but when you glance away and look back it’s looked like he’s breathing. 😆
The Atom!!! That's who he is!
Sorry that was bothering me
Same.
I THOUGHT SO! Thank you for confirming.
Love that show.... I have a girl crush on Caity Lots!
He's a better Ray Palmer than he is Superman, though he was passable in Crisis.
He did also come back as Superman in Crisis on Infinite Earths
I think Brandon Routh would’ve been an INCREDIBLE Superman if he had better writing
We got it. It’s called Crisis of infinite earths.
@@jessedellross3245 Yep, he was definitely one of the best parts of the event. Too bad most of it was a frustrating and dumb mess.
I think the script and pacing was the worst. It made the movie hurt my brain while moving at a slug's pace.
Although the film has nice visuals and humor sometimes... That I can't take away from it!
@@jessedellross3245 yes! One of my favorite cameos. The Tom Welling cameo was just...underwhelming
@@NaturallyMeeee I think it was good for what they had to work with. We know Tom wasn’t going to get in the suit and thus not fight. The fact he was willing to come back at all is wonderful and does pay homage to Smallville.
I would rather get something then nothing at all.
If the commercial Malcolm blinked, it would have been even more super creepy.
Here's how the movie should've started: Superman is at his peak. He's loved by everyone, Lex is in prison, he's married to Lois and has a son. Whilst he's out flying, then comes the announcement that Krypton survivors may have been spotted. He's filled with emotion and doesn't think what he's hearing through. He instantly leaves. We get a shot of Lex laughing when he finds out Superman left then boom, title card. This creates the idea to the audience that Luthor has been planning this whole thing. When he returns to Earth, he's hated by everyone. Lex is out, has become loved by the city. Where there once was a statue of Superman, there exists now one of Lex. Lex is now trying to manipulate Superman's son to join his side. Make it personal. Put the blame on Superman. Male him feel responsible. Actually kill off Lois to hammer it home. That superman leaving screwed everyone over. Also, you can include that his mother died during those 5 years he was away. Really get to him.
Jordthe destro1 yeah or maybe have Brainiac download his mind in superman’s son’s body
SR Striker that’s a great idea I would have preferred Brainiac
Difference3 Maker well you should see the Cancelled superman returns sequel
That's actually not a bad movie idea. Though it might be more interesting if Superman confronted Lex, who smugly reveals that he didn't do anything; people felt betrayed by Superman leaving and lost hope in him ever returning. Essentially, there's no-one to blame for the city turning against Superman. Clark made a mistake and is paying for it. Lex just took advantage of the situation.
I get funding for that
ok y'all were C-O-M-M-I-T-E-D to that malcolm joke, and i am HERE for it XD
I was laughing and looking over my shoulder at the same time.
That creepy malcolm joke is probably your most hilarious bit I've seen on your channel in while
"The appeals court called superman as a witness and--" that's not how appellate courts work!
@@oliviarogers3559
While witness tesimony is used as evidence, it is seen as lesser than DNA, objects (such as murder weapons), film or images, self-conviction. etc.
Many Lawyers praise My Cousin Vinny for it being very accurate to the court system, and they needed more than simoly witness testimony.
@@oliviarogers3559 most witness testimonies, are not very reliable that's why their usually followed up by evidence, making the testimony just extra back up to confirm the evidence. In the past they relied way to much on witness testimonies which lead to false imprisonments and dead witness's.
For clarifications, appellate courts review what a trial court did through the written records. They don't call witnesses because that was the trial court's job.
Or should you say "WRONG!"
Isn't there a procedure for even appellate courts to call in a witness to testify on evidence or proceedings that were found to be unclear without further explanation after the fact?
Things I actually do like:
* Lois' husband is actually heroic and likeable. He's not just a plotpoint to be overcome by Superman.
*Which leads me to the next part of Superman and Lois not getting back together. Shows that not all relationships are that uncomplicated.
*Floating in space, hearing the whole planet. Great shot
You also forgot about one thing that I think may like about superman returns. And that was ignoring 3 and 4.
I actually really like the shot of the bullet hitting his eye
One of my favorite moments was being recharged by the sun towards the end. Very powerful.
@@privatewalnut6091
Yeah, that was also a cool scene. Same with catching the airplane.
But that is pretty much all the action this movie offers.
NjA yeah because he never struggled like Peter Parker in Spider-Man 2
Okay, but "American Toy Story" would be terrifying beyond words.
In a good way or a bad way?
Yes
Terrifying for the toys or the victims?
All of the above (good, bad, toys, and humans).
It would totally just be Puppet Master directed by Ryan Murphy. I'm here for it tbh
I think it's great that the Rebirth Superman comics actually bothered to explore Superman as a father to his son. They're really heartfelt and surprisingly (and ironically) down to earth
Then Michael Bendis came, didn't want to write a married Superman with a son, so he separated Clark and Lois and aged up Jonathan Kent to young adulthood, made him a MLM person, and thus ended ruining the entire family dynamic.
Oddly enough, the first time I saw this was on a date with a girl who had never known any Superman lore whatsoever. So I guess some people did come into this needing that opening text. Side note: she’s now the biggest Superman nerd I know, so this movie did its job right on some level.
Cool to know.
From needing the opening text to biggest Superman nerd. That's quite a change.
Loved the comment as Superman happens to be my favorite character. I wonder what her opinion is about this movie.
Most people don't like it. I fell asleep when i watched the first time. But i like it now. It could have been much better.
@@soubhagyanayak3098 I like it too, full disclosure, I am a big superman too
@@soubhagyanayak3098 Superman nerds - unite!
Right. If you're a fan with expectations then you're going to scratch your head, but it's not like it's not fun.
@@extonjonas6820 Cool to hear that. High five!
"Apparently were in American Toy Story now"
...actually. I'd totally watch that.
I bet Sid would be the main character
I want that to!!!
We’re
Me too
Same here
Lois: He’s a pilot and loves horror movies.
Guy: I also have a brother. He’s an astronaut.
Ahem.
J. Jonah Jameson: My son, the astronaut
@@Penguinmanereikel Guy: Yes, Dad, I know he's your favourite.
gottfer Lol 😆 me too
And his girlfriend she's a bitch
J. Jonah Jameson: I have a son. He's an astronaut and I hate Spiderman.
Someone in my movie theater let out a bloodcurdling scream when the bullet hit Superman’s eye 😂
So did the guy playing Superman in Epic Movie.
It’s a shot that’s too good for the movie it’s in.
Wow, this person was a tad hypersensitive.
@@sebastianemond5313 when i think Superman Returns, I have that awful EPic Movie scene living rent free in my head and i hate that
@@DeRockMedia 😆😅My condolences.
I’ll say this, Kevin Spacey was a better Lex than Jesse Eisenberg.
I can't agree with that. Spacey's Lex feels kind of neutered to me. It's like after every first take in this movie, Singer took Spacey aside and said "Kevin, I think you should maybe tone it back a bit."
There are good moments for sure, but Spacey's Luthor has the same problem as Gene Hackman's: the director got the perfect guy for the job and didn't let him do his thing. At least Zack Snyder let Jesse Eisenberg go apeshit and make his Luthor memorable and unique as opposed to just being a comedic foil for Superman.
StarKiller 56 And yet somehow both pale in comparison to Jon Cryer on Supergirl. I am not kidding there.
@@benwasserman8223 I've seen Cryer's Lex Luthor. And that's a case of an interesting performance being brought down by a mediocre show. The direction writing and editing make his performance father pedestrian. You almost have to take your time in writing Lex Luthor and deciding what you want to do with the character.
He's definitely allowed more leeway than Spacey or Hackman, but it's still a little too safe for my tastes.
@@blakeadamson1576 Idk everyone who's loved the show thinks Cryer is fantastic. And he gets the manipulative chess master persona in a way only Clancy Brown's version understands.
Any Actor Portraying Lex Luthor is Better than Jesse Eisenberg Portraying Lex Luthor
6:43. Actually, in Superman 3, it was mentioned that Clark's mother died. In Superman 4, he was selling (though not actually sold) the farm. And if the two did take place then Lois' condition would've been noticeable.
Then again, in Superman 2, the control panel was destroyed, and in Superman: The Movie, Krypton was dust, destroyed by Rao when it too was destroyed (Unless you take into consideration the time it'd take for the light to reach Earth thereby giving the impression it was intact despite the fact that it was destroyed thousands of years ago)...
Actually, continuity be damned!
What's even stranger is that when we revisit this reality in Crisis on Infinite Earths, it's made pretty clear that they're following up from Returns (same actor, same theme music, the kid is mentioned by name, etc.).... yet they briefly reference Superman III as having happened. ("Not the first time I've fought myself.") Somehow. Granted, it's delivered as a one-off joke, but still adding to the tradition of screwy continuity.
Mr_LRB if a big budget film like this shits on continuity then the CW of all places is going to lay a Taco Bell aftermath on it.
I think the bigger continuity issue is the time period.
In the New 52 they actually do a story where the light of Kryptons's destruction reaches Earth and an adult Superman watches it in the sky
Granted it's been a long time since I've seen the movie, but I just love how Clark and Superman disappear at the same time and return at the same time and no one mentions it. Plus when Superman is in his coma, no one's asking where Clark is. Hell at least Dawn of Justice said Clark died in the attacks after SM was killed.
Wow, I don't know what to say to you. I mean, do you expect these people to notice that, when they were fooled by his masterful disguise of "Clark Kent" ?
He does have the same look and "feel" of Christopher Reeve's superman
I remember going to see this in theaters, and everyone was more excited at the new Harry Potter trailer than the movie
Which one?
@@motor4X4kombat Well since Superman Returns released in 2006, I'm guessing that was Order Of The Phoenix which released in 2007
No it was goblet of fire if it was in theaters
nola bratteig Overload 25 is probably referring to The Order of the Phoenix teaser. There was never a time Warner Bros. didn’t re-release Goblet of Fire.
I was more excited for Pirates Of The Caribbean 2, it came out at the same time.
Superman returns: the sequel nobody talks about.
Superman Returns: Oh, yeah, this happened.
Because its inaccurate.
It’s better than justice league 🤣🤣 (pre snyder cut)
Superman Returns: And I thought Superman 4 was bad.
@@eddieolshefski6467 I actually like Superman returns
Not to defend this movie, but Superman also doesn't punch anyone in the original 1978 film. I don't even think that there was an action sequence until the last act other than the helicopter scene.
I mean, if Superman punches anyone outside of a high endurance villain that person is pink mist. And Superman has a thing about savagely killing people.
@9752matt That's just it though: Superman believes everyone is capable of doing good, which is why he doesn't kill. Doing so would deprive everyone, even the villains, of the ability to choose whether or not to do good.
That's why he said "it's 2006." Pay attention.
But we at least see him stop criminals in the 1978 movie
Unlike 1978 film, this movie doesn't have well rounded characters, a good chemistry between leads, colors, emotion. So it desperately needs some punching to distract us from boredom.
Was hoping for a "crrYPtonite!" & "rrRheumatism!" crossover.
I was hoping he'd show any clip with Rumpelstiltskin from ouat lol
16:41 that “The room” reference was gold🤣
I KNEW IT
Hi, Denny!
You look cute today...can I kiss you
I'm happy that Brandon Routh came back in Crisis on Infinite Earths
Actually in crisis on infinite earths even though his part was short he did a pretty good job at being kingdom come superman and he even fought another version of him .
We learned more about his Superman in that show then we did in this entire movie.
And to be Kingdom come Superman no less
Me too.
I thought he was better in there, than he did in superman returns.
I remember the end of that movie TED and Patrick Stewart narrated the epilogue with, "Sam Jones is now living in a studio apartment with fellow actor Brandon Routh. Remember Brendan Routh? He starred in that god awful SUPERMAN movie! I mean, Jesus Christ, talking about getting your hopes up and then taking a shit on all of us!" 😂
Seth McFarlane and Patrick Stewart are good friend in real life, and cast mates on American Dad. Stewart has also played parodies of his Capt. Picard Star Trek character in Family Guy cutaways, as well as himself in the episode where Stewie kidnapped the entire TNG cast (and killed Denise Crosby).
I was at a Con that had both Sam Jones and Brandon Routh and they joked about it.
@@Feralwolf444 He also plays Picard in Robot Chicken sketches about TNG. Funniest one, IMO, is the Night Crew.
The drawn out joke really gave me time to appreciate how much Malcom’s hair has grown and styled
My fave cameo is at the end before the charity shout out.
pupcuz1 So cute!
Buster!
Never once did I think I would see a "The Room" joke in a Superman review
Where was that?
Oh hi mark
@@johnjsal when critic and Tamara are trying to get Malcolm to go away, they repeat the lines where Johnny and Lisa are trying to get Denny out of their bedroom
I think we can all agree that Malcolm stole the show. 😆
I mean, he made us all forget what Tamara was doing when Doug interrupted her.
@@tyrant-den884 thats what heroes do :D
@@elangelazrael only villains make us forget dildos.
"Superman Returns plays it too safe."
Superman returns: POMERANIAN CANNIBALISM
*"Why the world doesn't need Superman"*
*Because Batman is hotter*
*-Lois Lane*
Lois was attracted to Bruce Wayne in Superman TAS.
DCAU Lois disagrees
I can just imagine the second Bruce found out Clark left, he started asking Lois out on a date.
Oh sheet 🔥 👏
I approve.... I have spoken
Hey, at least this Superman had a normal upper lip.
Also, I couldn't stop laughing when Malcolm was stuck on screen.
And i love how Doug Walker in the Hello Fresh ad is reacting to the Malcom on the Screen
I now see Malcolm when I close my eyes........yup he’s still there
That's good. He also sees you when he closes his...
Yeah, at first he was just gonna keep his eyes open and staring at us all the time like all other creeps, but we're talking about the guy who figured out how to use the three sea shells. Of course he was gonna go one step beyond.
That is what heroes Do
Surely Doug is going to include that classic meme of Luthor in this movie. I'm sure it's coming u-
WROOOONG!!
"Why do I still feel like I'm being watched?"
-Some guy in a TH-cam video.
This is what heroes do.....
To be fair he isn’t being watched when he does the recording. He’s only watched after he uploads the video onto TH-cam.
@@bigevil1001 fair point
“Starting off the dark knight with” *He was dressed like a bat*
Nah, they feel the need to constantly re-murder his parents for us.
Well kids are the target audience and they really would not know (and there is always new audiences anyway, expecially in other countries) so I don’t know why people are suprised this needs to be explained again.
@@sarasamaletdin4574Well Spider-Man in MCU didn't show us Uncle Ben dying again and it worked.
I always feel like, Malcolm is watching me. And I ain't got no privacy. Oh, whoa oh.
TRY EXPRESS VPN **sounds of native integration**
When I’m in the shower I’m afraid to wash my hair, since Malcolm might be standing there
He can watch all he wants, cause he's about to see some kinky fetish shit even he doesn't want to know about.
*opens private window and unzips pants*
This was the first movie I ever saw in the movie theater when I was a kid. As a kid, I loved Superman! Watched the old cartoons, had the action figures, read some of the comics, etc. When I was 5 years old, I went to the movie theater for the first time with my dad and we saw Superman Returns on the big screen. I was so blown away by that movie, loved it so much. I re-watched it before I watched this video and I think it’s still pretty good in my opinion all these years later.
This movie acts like it doesnt have enough words for the essay. A lot of filler.
The "I am not able to can" of movies
The story is really not good. I like Brandon Routh as Superman, but he wasn't given anything much to do as a character for either Superman or Clark.
The best thing about the movie was Brandon Routh getting a chance 13 years later to actually get Superman right.
12:18 - Lois say's that Superman is 125 pounds!!! I never noticed this before (likely due to how boring the movie is) but I had to do a triple take to make sure I heard it correctly. I'm sure they meant 225lbs but I can't unhear it now and it's really screwing with my head, lol.
Lol that would mean he would fight in the lightest weight category in UFC 😂
The biggest tragedy of this is the best possible Superman actor never getting a role again
Henry Cavill? I think he may be back.
If you're reffering to Brandon, he would eventually be casted as Ray Palmer in Arrow and return to being Superman in Crisis
If you're reffering to Tom Welling, he would be casted as Cain in Lucifer and also come back as Superman
Bernardo Espinoza Yeah, no.
@@ezelfrancisco1349 Well more like came back, betrayed e verything about his character by giving up his powers when the world needs him for his own selfishness. Leaving his children defenseless if another super villain shows up and he can't protect them. Hears the multiverse is collapsing and will destroy all sentient life, laughs at it, then goes to see what his rugrats painted on the wall.
Yep, he came back alright. As Selfishman.
Now, get this, heres how it should've went down. Tom Wellings Supes hears about the multiverse collapsing, asks if there's anyone else on it and is told that there's a whole group of people. He tells them that he must protect his own home as there's some disaster going on and he has to stay there to deal with it.
Let's say Darkseid is back and has taken over the world, he can't just leave that because of the multiverse, if he does people will definitely die whereas if he lets the other heroes handle it, they could very well succeed while him staying behind could make sure no one else suffers while he's out saving the rest of them.
He says he cannot help because of this and everyone understands, we can still do the Lex Luthor part but just say maybe he built up a tolerance to Kryptonite after being on earth for so long and being exposed to Kryptonite over and over, Lex has to run back to Charlie and live in his lakehouse afterwards.
THERE, character saved.
But instead we got what we got because Tom Welling was tired of everyone asking him to be Superman again and he just wanted to be done with it. Plus it was a neat little paycheck.
Face it, Tom Welling hated the role, hated us and wanted to be free of it.
@@Kazeromaru I watch the show and that was so in character. Clark was selfish in that show, he never want to be a savior.
OK, just gonna say it, the "Hello Fresh" segway with Malcolm was AMAZING! Super creative connection between the review gag and the sponser spot.
"Master of Comic Book movies..... at the time"
That was not even a picture of Sam Raimi.
Woulda love to see his take on it..
The fact that Malcolm was slowly draining my soul was awesome
I actually enjoyed this movie. No one beats Christopher Reeve, though.
No one
I watched it twice on the big screen. I like it, despite I felt that I was on step ahead of the writers.
Two thoughts.
1) you skipped over what could be the best line (in a bad scene). When he and Lois are flying and he talks about how he can hear everyone begging for help
2) One of my biggest pet peeves about this movie is that Lois described kryptonite as "irradiated pieces of his home world" and then Lex makes a continent of kryptonite. So, is his real estate scheme to sell homes on chernobyl island?
Especially stupid since comic fans know that kryptonite affects humans too and actually killed Luthor once from radiation poisoning... so even if he doesn't know it in THIS continuity... it's still a stupid idea from the fans point of view...
Forget it being irradiated, look at that desolate hunk of black rock, who would willingly live on that?
@@phantom1592 yeah, only brought up the Lois line because I mentioned kryptonite being radioactive to someone once (I've dwelled on this a lot) and he was like well it's a different universe so maybe the rules are different. I was like, no! She mentioned it earlier in the movie
@@tyrant-den884 Not to mention if you reduce the world population by a few billion then extra living space isn't going to be so desirable anymore (heck there are vast spaces of uninhabited land already, partly because it's not suitable for human habitation, much as a giant hunk of rock doesn't make for ideal beachfront property).
@@tyrant-den884 Lex Luthor ' s scheme was beyond stupid here, hardly worthy of the greatest criminal mind of our time. I mean, aside from the absurdity of the giant mass of crystalline radioactive rock, Lex stupidly launches his scheme without saving his yacht. I mean, he needs transportation. Duh. Also, his helicopter certainly doesn't have enough fuel to get to the mainland. Also, how is he going to claim this rock, and how is he going to communicate to the outside world? Why was he so eager to set up shop with only suitcases of money to live on? Why d8d he not keep the remaining crystals on his own person rather than giving them to his moll? This Lex Luthor was an idiot.
"Kevin Spacey is a good ma-"
*_WROOOONG!!!_*
He’s adopted
The #1 thing I remember from this film was when me and my parents went to see it in theaters and Superman was using his X-Ray vision on Lois's house and my dad just goes, "Superman, the Super Stalker"
That's my main memory of this film.
I didn't even realize that superman doesn't even throw a punch in this that's insane
"There's nothing 'super' about this film."
I take objection to that! The flying effects are PHENOMENALLY done. I absolutely believe that this Superman is completely unaffected by gravity. The way he holds his body, his featherlight take-offs and landings, the smooth fluidity of the motions....come on, if that's not the one thing that deserves some appreciation, what is??
Also the fact that his cape stay still when he's floating in outerspace is actually scientifically accurate.
Superman Returns: the movie where Superman doesn't fight anyone and is a deadbeat dad
sounds like a hit
@Eric Sledge Shit game for a shit movie
Dude he didn’t fight anyone in the original movie
@@Ol_Lochy No, but as the Critic said, he did interact with the people in the original movie, he had a great chemistry with Lois, Lois was funny and Christopher Reeves gave an upbeat, charismatic performance. It's as if Brian Singer asked Kate and Brandon to act the whole film as a pair of marble statues, but even more bland.
Deadbeat dad and creepier stalker
“16 minutes” I’m also pretty sure we’re nearly an hour into the Donner film before Superman saves the helicopter. The difference isn’t how great the action scene is. The Donner film actually told interesting stories leading up to that. The destruction of Krypton, Clark losing his Earth father to something not even his powers could prevent, Clark’s first day in Metropolis and dealing with city life. The Donner film for the most part is a masterclass in keeping your audience engaged.
This movie fails because almost every idea it brings up is executed in a hollow fashion. If Lois had completely given up on Superman under Donner’s direction and Mankiewicz’s writing, it would take more than saying sorry and saving her to make her change her mind. If they had a kid together, that would’ve been explored. Returns tried too hard to imitate the style of those films without realizing what was important.
its kinda funny how donner he made first the movie about the individual that will doom humanity in the omen, and then he made the move about the individual that wll save it with superman.
My big problem with Superman Returns is that it tries so hard to replicate the feel of the Donner-era Superman movies too much even down to quoting lines (the whole "I hope this experience hasn't put you off flying" line for example) from the older movies. Like the Critic said, it's heart was in the right place, but I think that the film should have had the magic of the Donner films combined with the action and emotional complexity of modern comic book movies. Say what you want about Man of Steel (I think it's underrated), but at least it tried to do something different with Superman (and he actually throws a punch, unlike this movie).
Dom Taylor I personally do think Man of Steel is at least better than Returns by a long shot
@@domtaylor1887 It kind of does have the "complexity" of modern comic movies from the time it comes from.
It's not that it's 16 minutes into the movie - it's that the scene itself is 16 minutes long, from cause to end of the rescue. The helicopter scene in contrast is under 5.
NC: was Lois lane super girl and we never knew it?
Me: let me just write that down in case I get a job at dc
Surprise incest would unfortunately be an improvement on DC's recent Superman stories.
I mean, you know what people would be saying if that were actually a thing?
"Oh god DC is ripping off Spider-Man by using a love interest of the protagonist to be a different version of Superman (or Supergirl in this case)"
Because y'know Gwen Stacy from a parallel universe is Spider-Man and she's pretty popular these days. So it feels like people would just jump straight into that logic from the get go.
The kid should’ve been effected by the kryptonite near his face. Being half human and aliens be damned.
Also why does he have asthma?
Suggestion is his powers haven't kicked in yet, hence why Kryptonite doesnt do much if anything yet.
@Cat Egorical You probably fell asleep watching it, they did warn you! :P
Because consistency and logic are for hacks, apparently.
Kryptonite immunity could make sense if thought of in terms of genetics. "Just like both parents must pass on a sickle cell anemia gene in order for the disease to be fully present, both parents must be Kryptonian in order to produce a kryptonite-sensitive offspring. Or, perhaps sensitivity becomes a trait after puberty. Still, check that kid for radiation injuries." I guess the asthma could be written to make sense as well: an improbable mutation or a weird/unexpected result of combining human (Lois) with a Kryptonian who was shot through space and shot with all kinds of who-knows-what's during battles.
But exploring those ideas would have taken away screen time from the nameless characters forgotten right after they aren't on camera. WHY LEARN MORE ABOUT THE HALF-ALIEN KID OF THE MAIN CHARACTER?
@Cat Egorical I think hes just talks/references it SO much that it seems like hes reviewed it already
It’s kinda crazy how the last CW superhero crossover showed Brandon Routh as a great Superman better than this entire movie did.
Also crazy that it's the same version. I think it's safe to assume he had "a phase" in this movie.
@@MastarNinja Dudes a great actor, movie was just really bad.
NC: "I like to see Superman as a father"
Years of Superman Comics exploring that: "Are we a joke to you?"
Then Bendis happens.
I still want to see more of Mexican Superman
He’s gonna love Superman & Lois
He needs to read the Superman Rebirth issues after the Superman: Lois and Clark miniseries.
Critic didn't know ant man was a comic book character so.....
Then The recent multiverse event happens and Brandon Routh is finally humanized AND gives a huge cheesy late 80's smile at the camera to make up for all of it.
"Why did we need to know she wears pearls?" Yeah, whose movie is this? Batman's? (Though they do both have moms named Martha)
"Nuclear Man was stupid, but at least it was new." Doomsday (killing machine created by Lex Luthor using Kryptonian DNA mixed with his own which absorbed the power of a nuke) approves this message.
"Remember that Superman reboot where they killed his son as well as Lois?" Injustice Joker's laughing in the corner right now.
Well, at least Routh's Superman was great in Crisis on Infinite Earths.
Yeah they should have made that no legged man from Batman v Superman into Metallo
"Is it a bird, is it a plane?"
No it's a sequel nobody wanted!
or asked for
"squeal" ?
You spell nobody wrong
Reboot
haha, Cat said: "Ya know what? You're not paying attention to me...so I'm going to get RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE of what you're doing." As cats do...so freaking often! XD
Parker Posey being in this film annoys me because she could have been the perfect Lois Lane in this film opposite Brandon Routh’s Clark Kent, she has the looks of Lois and has the perfect personality and she just has a personality in general
heck James Marsden being in this film annoys me as he could have been a great Superman however I am so glad Routh got the role except I’m annoyed he didn’t get to do more as he is perfect casting
Superman’s son in this film should have been a clone made by Lex Luthor after having visited the Fortress of Solitude
I was _soo_ thinking how Marsden should've been Superman. He has the looks, goodness and dedication to saving people.
Even the video game of Superman Returns had a better plot; the graphics by EA were terrible, but at least Superman got to go up against villains like Mongul, Bizarro, Riot, Mxyzptlk, a giant Metallo. Why not make Metallo a villain in this Donnorverse Superman movie? Or Mongul? If Superman's gonna lift something big out of Earth's atmosphere, at least make it the War World! There is so much potential, but Singer just rehashed the '78 plot.
@@rogue7723 Maybe Singer was worried Marsden's would sing to Lois.
🎵😄I've been dreaming of a true love's kiss!🎵
Maury: "In the case Lois's son, Superman, you ARE the father!"
Superman: *flies into space*
While the Cameraman has Jetpacks and following Superman.
🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
The ending shot is pretty cool since the “giant rock” he’s lifting is made out of kryptonite
Yeah, it totally makes you overlook that minutes ago he could barely stand on it because of that but now he's strong enough to lift it to outer space
@@joshpart3319 Shonen Jump logic.
@@joshpart3319 I think it was because he had a continent-sized chunk of rock in between, wasn't it? Or maybe I'm thinking something was mentioned, but maybe not. Maybe it is a big plot hole. I do recall the Kryptonite poking through, and seeing Superman really struggling with that, like the protection gained from the giant slab in between breaking up.
@Thread Bomb I would watch that anime.
@@joshpart3319 it's meant to be a metaphor of how if we all reach down in and find the best parts of ourselves and try our best we can accomplish things that we didn't know we could.
The only thing I remember from this movie was how Lex Luther said “Krrrriptonite” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Also that the role of superman was in Scott Pilgrim vs the World 😂😂😂😂
Love your videos NC :)
It reminded me of Nostalgia Critic's running gag of "Rrrrheumatism"
the irony that he is more known for being in Scott Pilgrim, than being superman
Todd’s vegan
MarkFilipAnthony as a wise man once said...
“Looks like someone wants to get... Funky”
@@axelriotwrestling but only on monday,
Because its friday now, and she has the weekend off
I literally cried laughing during the entire sponsorship 😂😂😂
"Metropolis, Houston, and Gothim are sending reports"
One of these things is not like the others.
“Houston” had an “o” as the second to last letter while the other two have an “i.”
Houston's a real place while Gotham and Metropolis aren't.
Gotham is spelled incorrectly and it's not a typo just poor spelling?
@@KaiKrimson56 No, Houston was made up for Apollo 13. The other two are real.
Definitely Metropolis. It's actually a small town in Southern Illinois, not a big city.
9:08 "Apparently, we're in American Toy Story right now." XD That could make a hilarious crossover given that Disney owns both franchises. XD With how amazing the intros the show has, that would be an awesome idea to parody an opening of AHS for Nostalgia-Ween. 😊
By coincidence, my mom is watching an episode of Legends of Tomorrow which had a Superman played by Brandon Ruth. XD
I really love this film. I know a lot of people have issues with this being "boring" and I get it. Its a slower paced film. But I love Brandon Routh as Superman, Superman returning to a world that has moved on from a savior and I love that leaving has had consequences on his relationship with Lois. Maybe I have nostalgia down with this film since it was my first Superman and first cinema experience I watched but I just think its an excellent Superman film.
Lmao, it was my 1st Superman film to 😂
Same. I loved this movie as a kid and was my introduction to the character. I even had the video game which was also one of my favorites.
Brandon Routh is hot and thats it
I loved it too.