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- Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) and Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (CPTSD) are two disorders that have many striking similarities, however are both quite different. People with either disorder can be misdiagnosed which can be problematic given that the two are treated very differently. To better understand the differences between BPD and CPTSD, in this video, we will look at signs of CPTSD that are often mistaken for BPD
To learn more about CPTSD and BPD, check out the following videos:
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Clearview Women’s Center. (2021, August 11). How is Borderline Personality Disorder Similar to PTSD? Clearview Women’s Center | BPD Treatment Los Angeles. www.clearviewwomenscenter.com/blog/bpd-similar-ptsd/
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Franco, F. (2018, August 2). How Do the Differences Between BPD and C-PTSD Affect Diagnosis? GoodTherapy.Org Therapy Blog. www.goodtherapy.org/blog/how-do-differences-between-bpd-cptsd-affect-diagnosis-0802184
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Mayo Clinic. (2019, July 17). Borderline personality disorder - Symptoms and causes. www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/borderline-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20370237
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How do you feel today?
Pretty good
I feel okay, you..?
Anxious
Annoyed
tired :))
and my anxiety has seemed to be worse today
To all experiencing BPD and CPTSD, I see you and I hear you. I was diagnosed with both and I understand where a lot of this all comes from. Complex developmental trauma takes everything to treat and every second of it is worth it because you are all so very much worth it.
Thank you for sharing your story, it has encouraged me to speak up as well. I was recently diagnosed with CPTSD and MDD. It’s a tough healing journey, yet a journey worth the embark!
please feel loved.
lost all my friends at this point. in such a hole.
@@goetcetc564 I feel that. Feel loved by you as much as you can. Dealing with life, and being an adult is hard, but I'm lucky enough it got just better enough for me. Keep it up, you just gotta try hard and hit your lucky break. Or go all the way to the mental health stability line of your dreams. Sorry this is corny. But I empathize. I've been there too.
Thank you, it's a very kind of you. I was diagnosed with bpd, then changed into cptsd, but neither can destroy me! (I'm optimistic now, don't know what I'll become in an hour) hope you feel well too
Signs it is PTSD, not BPD
1:57 1. BPD has an inconsistent self-concept
2:26 2. CPTSD usually does not provoke fear of abandonment
2:55 3. People with CPTSD are less likely to self-harm
3:20 4. with CPTSD, you are more likely to avoid relationship
Thanks
I guess people who have Cptsd are dismissive avoidant
Thank you 😩
@@jeanjessmommysharlyn2771 i think yes this is what the video implies but that's... Overly simplified. Not everyone with the anxious attachment style has BPD. I feel confident asserting that much.
Enlightening indeed.
I do have CPTSD. It’s the consequence of parental neglect, ADHD rejection and long term bullying.
I don’t like to call myself a victim. I am a product of indifference and silence from relatives and educational institutions.
Teachers out there. If you see patterns, not only say something, make sure you recommend mental healthcare professionals
There’s a lot of single abusive/neglecting parents out there that don’t even know what they’re doing.
I experienced the same thing and it has honestly heavily impacted my success in life. At least I can get better.
DM I have more of the CPSD cluster of symptoms. I and more than one therapist have said that I clearly have trauma symptoms. But I do have fluctuations between high and low self-esteem. Between grandiosity and shame.
Single parent doesn't equal abusive or neglectful. The single part is irrelevant. Let's not bash parents who work harder to play both roles without help.
When I was in elementary schools, my teachers suggested to my mom and step dad that I get tested for learning disability because I was having so much trouble learning, especially math. Every time it was suggested, both parents, especially my mother, would have a fit and shut the teachers down. How should teachers work with parents who won’t listen? I think my parents knew what they were doing to us, and that my development in school was delayed due to the trauma I experienced at a young age.
same experience here. caused a state of burnout that has lasted pretty much from age 14 to now (im 21)
BPD has been a diagnosis of convenience for trauma-uninformed clinicians for decades, often assigned to female patients they did not understand ("careful, she's borderline"). For anyone given this convoluted diagnosis, I would strongly encourage you to ask the clinician who diagnosed you if they are trauma-informed. If they get defensive or cannot say anything but what PTSD stands for, get another opinion. If you want to be nice, recommend the book The Body Keeps The Score by Bessel van der Kolk. If they haven't heard of the book... don't walk, run away.
Interesting. So your opinion is that BPD is basically a misogynist label for ignorant or prejudiced practitioners?
@@natashasays Now that you said it this way...Yep.
@Niphyra Agree. Making an accurate diagnosis should take time for a clinician and should not get easier to do over time. I wish the whole diagnosis process could become obsolete or at least re-vamped to include trauma-informed diagnoses.
That book is gold when it comes to understanding trauma as a victim. I have cptsd and read this book 6 years ago, and it changed my life. I finally understood, that it was normal to get severely ill after what I had to endure for the first 18 years of my life.
You are right on target with that whole "careful, she's borderline" crap. I got a BPD diagnosis before I even got a proper cptsd diagnosis. I was just a scared kid. It is some dismissive sexism, especially for little girls with ADHD mixed in there. They have given and then retracted at least half a dozen diagnosis on me and still won't test for autism which I find to be pretty ridiculous. I'm middle-aged now, you would think they would listen to me. They have taken BPD off of my diagnosis list again I think. They keep putting it on and taking it off and putting it on taking it off and so on. Inconsistency is a real Beast in this field.
BPD is egosyntonic, meaning their thoughts and behavior are normal to them and the problem lies with everyone else. C-PTSD is egodystonic, which means they are aware that something is wrong and are more likely to seek help.
Thank you!!!! This NEEDED to be pointed out as like the key difference between the two.
I almost got diagnosted with BPD but then it turned out that I have CPTSD and my mom had BPD, and all the similar symptoms were me mirroring and projecting her in order to survive, so much that I did them unconsciously when I grew older. Psychotherapy helped a lot but still I have a long way to go!
Damn whoever helped you figure out your diagnosis did a really good job (I’m sure you played a big part in that too)!! I’ve had multiple doctors/therapists trying to figure out which diagnostic boxes my symptoms fall into for over a year now, I know other people who’ve gone decades getting the wrong diagnoses too. So many mental health professionals fail to look beyond what is immediately in front of them but that never is the whole story. I wish figuring this stuff out didn’t have to be so difficult :(
This is me also! I found being able to have space from BPD parent allowed me to grow and not show BPD symptoms as I was able to be my own person for once.
Oh crap this might be my case too. My mom's diagnosed with borderline, I'm diagnosed with borderline traits but I always felt something was different about my bpd behaviour. Or that I was a "quiet BPD" meaning I usually turn inwards and hurt myself when I feel rejection and abandonnement. But I also have a lot of trauma that's spanned out over my life, like CPTSD. Idk what to dooooo....
I can relate too! My mom isn’t diagnosed with anything because she refuses to consider there might be anything “wrong” with her. But I wonder if she has conditions like BPD and/or OCPD. My therapist and I think I have OCD (among other things) but my med prescriber thinks I have OCPD because I tick off more boxes for that than OCD, but honestly I feel like most of the traits I identified as having are things that I picked up from my mom. She’s been my primary caregiver for 26 years for better or for worse, it would be no surprise to me that she would teach me her behaviors as what a person is supposed to do. I started differentiating from her at the end of high school and she did NOT like that. I think I’ve become a better person for it, far less manipulative and needy than I used to be. I didn’t know I was doing anything wrong until I realized that my mom wasn’t normal and some of my behaviors weren’t acceptable or liked by most people. I still haven’t broken free from her to become independent yet, but I’m trying!
Yo same
These two disorders are so similar and can be difficult to differentiate. I’ve been learning about both disorders in school but this is a clear explanation of both so thank you and a great way to define childhood trauma so thank you 🙏🏽💜
Another great way is for parents to actually listen to me before it's to late
*learning about both disorders in school* you guys are taught mental health?!
@@brainy717 I think they might be in med school 😁 I do wish mental health and wellness was taught in primary school though, would alleviate so much suffering.
@@KnitBone so true.... We have non existent teaching about mental health tbh
Misdiagnosis for BPD seems to happen mostly to Autistic and ADHD folks who have C-PTSD (more commonly misdiagnosed among women/femmes). I don't believe this is a coincidence. The unstable sense of self in BPD can be due to a combination of complex trauma/abuse and Autistic mirroring, while the unstable negative/positive self-image can be a combination of complex trauma/abuse and ADHD Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria. In my experience and studying, BPD diagnoses are most often given to a neurodivergent person with C-PTSD.
When your Complex trauma includes tons of abandonment, esp used as a weapon by a narcissistic parent/guardian, then you absolutely will have fear of abandonment. If your C-PTSD includes a ton of bullying, you absolutely will be terrified of rejection. Rejection and bullying happen disproportionately to Neurodiverse persons. We need more neuro in our psych and more research on comorbidities. The information within academic and clinical psych is still woefully behind, underfunded, and under-researched, especially when it comes to Autism. We are only now undoing part of the extremely ableist, bigoted rhetoric that is accepted about Autism. A small part.
As with everything, these subjects are much more complexly layered even than they appear.
This is what I was looking for. This. Thank you! (I was a psych major and am having to learn from TH-cam apparently)
I have a feeling we will someday view BPD the same way we view the diagnosis of "hysteria" that was so prevalent in the past.
@@samanthaw8837 that's such an interesting take. I wonder if that will be the case.
Correct! Bigoted to women & POC. I truly believe I am neurodivergent but my demographic rarely gets a diagnosis.
"Always in high alert." Hyper vigilance isn't always actively looking out for danger but behaviors that you have developed and normalized to avoid it without thinking too much about it.
Such as paying attention to how people walk and the sound of their steps to perceive their mood.
Switching topics when you and the person you're with were steering the conversation towards a subject that set off your abuser, thinking it'll upset them too
Shutting doors and closing cabinets quietly because you got your butt jumped for letting the door close loudly behind you or your abuser slammed things a lot when they were angry.
Always using headphones so you can quietly listen to whatever you want because your abuser got onto you for not keeping things quiet when you were with them.
You nailed it.
100%. Most of these things I don't even realize, it's just so natural.
thank you for commenting this!!
Whoops please don't mind me thinking that everyone could tell mood based on footsteps....
I have cptsd from growing up with abusive and neglectful parents, a very dramatic divorce they went through in which I was placed in the care giver position, constant bullying and discrimination in educational centers I assisted, in jobs I had, a long term turned toxic relationship turned long term toxic situationship... All of which has left me in an extreme constant high alert, always analyzing and decoding people around me. Constantly denying my own needs and avoiding to ask for help. Its really tough you guys. I have isolated myself and gone through some extreme anxiety the last year. I dont know how to explain the feeling, I hope everyone going through anything like this sees the light at the end of the tunnel and finds the strength to pull through... You got this ❤️
I see you ❤
Two years later, I see you, too. ❣ Isolation is relatively peaceful.
I definitely have C-PTSD instead of the PTSD I was diagnosed with. It's basically impossible for me to trust anyone because everyone in my life proved they couldn't be trusted time and time again.
Yep. Same here.
I’m so sorry :(
I was diagnosed with Complex PTSD a few years ago. Avoiding relationships is so huge for me. Haven't been in one since 2006. I host a podcast called The Complex PTSD Guy, I guess it's ok to mention here.
i felt the same about people, i did EMDR and now i feel free of that mistrust
bad?
I been diagnosed BPD and to make simple it. This disorder more focus on relationship.
This is our cycle
1.We attach to new person
2.we overshare our problem
3.they get tired and starting to make a distance
4.we clingy so that we can avoid abandonment
5.if they still leave us alone, we find new person.
6. Repeat it from number 1
I think I have BPD. :’(
It gets better as we get older as well
@@Hellakiddie yes definitely
Or 3 is skipped if we meet someone with NPD. Then it becomes the NPD abuse cycle.
As an autistic, I have curious to see the similarities and differences between autism in women and BPD; it is a common misdiagnosis as well, especially in women. It is also possible to have both.
this, i was diagnosed bpd, cptsd and adhd but am getting tested to now see if the bpd may actually be autism as autism runs heavy in our family
I'm female, autistic and have CPTSD and BPD. How can I help?
@@MaliaMydnight I was diagnosed with bpd but after watching videos of people especially females who are autistic I think I may have autism it seems most logical to me I always felt very different even feeling honestly alien. It's really hard getting medical help especially if you don't have medical aid so I struggle so much in past when trying to get a mental diagnosis I knew what I was feeling was not normal or good. So now I'm again here with struggling to go for autism diagnosis I don't know where to start health staff sometimes so mean and non understanding.
I was diagnosed as bipolar as teen, then with PTSD after Iraq, but I also think I have BPD from my F'd up childhood and I might be autistic as well. I'm guessing it's possible to be all four?
well no one wants the bpd label … everyone now wants the autistic diagnosis because it’s widely accepted and there’s no stigma like a bpd stigma. sucks but it’s true. so many women with bpd want an autistic diagnosis badly to break away from the thought of being a “bad person” … it’s an epidemic
If you or someone you love has BPD or CPTSD, remember that you're not a monster as some people portray, but rather you're a soldier fighting your inner demons and past traumas. You may have a long way to go, but you are strong and capable. Never give up and never lose sight of your loved ones. You got this. Bless you all.❤️
NOTE: CPTSD is not only found from military soldiers, but average citizens that has gone through something traumatic like car accident or witnessing death.
Or many years of childhood and a adolescent abuse, or being in an abusive romantic relationship of whatever length.
PTSD would be the single incidents like car accident or witnessing death as you mentioned. CPTSD is a result of repeated trauma over a long period of time. Like being abused by family or romantic partners.
- In an environment you cannot escape. -
Even when you 'just' believe you cant .
The earliest name I know of is 'Prisoner of War Syndrome'.
Another important note is that you develop cptsd from more than 1 traumatic event
Military soldiers are usually diagnosed with PTSD not CPTSD.....I worked with the CDN military as a mental health therapist
1. BPD has an inconsistent self-concept. 1:57
2. CPTSD usually does not provoke fear of abandonment. 2:26
3. People with CPTSD are less likely to self-harm. 2:55
4. With CPTSD, you are more likely to avoid relationships. 3:20
wow i have CPTSD
@@lifesoldier wow your pfp is the directX SDK logo. wtf?
@@glitchyjoe64 yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@glitchyjoe64 as a, a
Can you have both?
I describe CPTSD as a cluster of many symptoms on a spectrum. You arent gonna find 2 people the same. Its like yes the overlaps, if you draw three overlapping circles with CPTSD in the center. Those 3 circles would be PTSD, borderline and bipolar disorder. This is my opinion and experiences only. Take care friends 🌱
I'm diagnosed with all three, PTSD, borderline and bipolar. And I know it's definitely CPTSD not regular PTSD because I have been abused my whole life, first by my parents and then into adolescence and adults by romantic partners. Definitely have BPD as well and have known that for a while. The bipolar I never really suspected and am still wondering whether it's the case but I'm not one to deny diagnoses.
@@MorgonBranning have you ever asked your doctor why they believe it's bipolar and not something else? If not, make sure you advocate for yourself, since you know yourself best.
@@ej62133 personally my current mental health care and meds provider just seems kinda lazy and wanted to go with the “easiest” diagnosis so they had an excuse to put me on meds. The meds don’t help or change anything they just make me really tired, meds don’t work for BPD like they do for bipolar. They literally said when they gave me a dual diagnosis BPD/bipolar that BPD sucks because it can’t be medicated but bipolar can and tried to take my BPD diagnosis when they added PTSD because of overlapping symptoms which I think is uninformed and lazy health care, you can have multiple similarly presenting disorders but they seem to have a weird fixation on wanting to simplify every symptom into one or two diagnoses. I’m looking into switching care providers soon so fingers crossed on getting actual diagnoses (including ADHD which they insist is impossible that I have because even though I have almost literally every symptom I did well in school and apparently to them you have to have had extreme trouble in school and with grades to have ADHD which just isn’t true as a blanket statement).
@@MorgonBranning I've been on both sides of the desk in the MH community as a peer, so I can relate with the frustration of doctors trying to shut clients up by flexing their credentials. Definitely look for a better fit, because it sounds as if your doctor just wants feathers in their cap instead of actually listening and working with their clients.
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Really enjoyed the little fusion disorder dance at 1:32 , all jokes aside, thanks for shedding light on these issues, people need to understand the severity of mental health.
As someone who was formally diagnosed with PTSD by my psych, this video makes me want to cry. I witnessed the of my mother in my childhood, and there's definitely a sharp contrast in my mannerisms pre and post. It's a daily struggle, but I push myself to get up and live every day.
I have both & I’m a therapist. Healing is crucial. 💗
Can i speak to you about this.
i was first diagnosed with CPTSD, and then it changed to BPD. they are very alike, i feel like i could see myself in both. but after watching this video, i can see that i definitely have BPD.
thanks for being respectful towards bpd. i find that most online convos surrounding bpd often boil down to either "everyone with bpd is a disgusting monster who wants to hurt you" or teenagers insisting they have it after watching a single video. was refreshing to see something more objective for once. this video was really informative, my ex has cptsd while i have bpd & it's kind of funny how accurate your descriptions were to us.
As someone with cptsd, my heart goes out to those with bpd, it’s difficult for me to understand them so these vids help.
it always really pissed me off when I got the bpd diagnosis, and I argued it enough with knowledge and logic that it was removed from my record lol. I am textbook cptsd.
Extremely helpful, people online are conflating the two conditions. This video is extremely clear.
Thanks for sharing. Glad you find it helpful!! What content would you like us to cover next?
Wow! Super excited that you asked me I have a few ideas based on what is see folks conflating on and offline. 1.What is magical thinking 2. The difference between cronic mental health challenges like counterdependency and codependency and attachment styles 3. And what is the false self?
This happened with my sister. Doctor thought it was BPD but was actually CTPSD. She’s finally got some clarity and I hope others find it too 💖
I have bpd and this has been educational thank you psych2go
Imagine going to the doctor and, instead of being given treatment, you're given an acronym and told 'this is what you are'
I have an inconsistent sense of self for sure and I definitely have a fear of abandonment. That’s why I tend to avoid relationships. I also have this sort of automatic self shut off switch, that when I get close to someone in a relationship, I shut off and pull away and lose interest. Happens all the time. Like…I WANT a deep and meaningful relationship, but when it gets there I lose interest in the person. I’m happier and less stressed out when things are kept at a distance, but at the same time I desire that close level of intimacy. Then when I get it I no longer want it. It’s weird.
I would NEVER think about self harm though. Never in a million years. I am actually very resilient, self aware and proactive in my life. I’m an amateur boxer, I do yoga multiple times per week and I always kill it at my job. And I’m very social in my life. I know I have CPTSD, but not sure if I have BPD as well. I feel like I’m some ways I do, but I’m very mentally healthy in my daily life so idk.
Sounds like CPTSD.
I agree it's cptsd but also try to search about dismissive avoidant attachment style.. it's a cognitive behavioral therapy by ms. Thais gibson i learn a lot from it...
All that you stated it seems like my guy best friend...do you have a tendency to push people away especially if they love you or wants a serious relationship? His like that, but also wants a friend's with benefits things and made people confused with his behaviors..but for him his just being his self...
@@jeanjessmommysharlyn2771 Yeah I’m like that. It’s very hard for me to catch feelings but when I do I get terrified and I want out of the situation because I feel like I’m losing control of myself. That feeling of complete vulnerability makes me nauseous and gives me anxiety. I have a lot of love to give, but every time I’ve done it I’ve gotten pushed away and it almost broke me completely. This has happened multiple times. The last time it felt like heroin withdrawal (what I imagine heroin withdrawal to be like), I was hugging the toilet throwing up and it took me over a year to recover and not having random bouts of crying. I wouldn’t wish what I went through on my worst enemy. That is something you couldn’t pay me a billion dollars to make me go through again. So because I expect to get pushed off when I open myself up, I just don’t do it anymore. I remain detached, I seek fwb types of situations and it’s a lot better. It’s physically painful for me to be in a relationship and not open myself up. So I just don’t get into relationships.
@@nickp3949 ahhhh i didn't know that's what it feels for him... we're best friends for 3 years we had a lot of fun, playful, teasing, flirting,joking he likes that...and fwb but i always tell him why are you playing games... because he doesn't want a relationship...i keep on trying a lot of different approach..but i can't keep fwb if i do have feelings for him. So..what else can i do? I always give him some space i understand.. I don't pressure him but when it comes to commitment i guess he feel pressured...can we be friends in fb? Or your also avoidant? He never initiate in texting but once i text him, he reply fast.
I've been married to my husband since 2014. The descriptions your discussing has help understand more. My husband said he loves me but he's disconnected with feelings and doesn't show he love me. I'm so frustrated I want a divorce but he wants to work it out. This is hard for mw.
Wow the way you break these very complex personality concepts/diagnoses down in a way that is easy to understand I truly amazing! Thank you!
This is very important thank you for bringing attention to this.
My mother has bpd and I survived all the storms of her disorder as a child and I, in turn, developed cptsd, since I was in full survival mode the majority of my childhood. i share a lot of similarities to my mother as it is simply because I was raised by her, but I do not have BPD. These resources are incredibly important and its important to understand where these similarities come from in your life if you or someone you know struggle with either or both these.
A little FYI.
If you have PTSD that is untreated for more than 10 yrs, you will gradually develop a PD.
ICD-10, see F:42 on long-term effects.
Just sayin'
Have a great day everybody.
That explains a lot….😳
Ah shit. That makes so much sense honestly.
There is a movement in the practitioner community to merge the two disorders in the DSM. As someone with CPTSD, partially brought on by being raised with a BPD parent, am absolutely FRIGHTENED by this. I have all the empathy in the world for BPF sufferers, but the two disorders are fundamentally different. They may appear to be the same, but the root cause and personality factors are dramatically different. Thanks for shedding light on this and I hope that those in the practitioner community who conceive of the two as similar get some better perspective.
This is done intentionally. Muddying the waters, giving the general public a wrong idea about mental health issues. That's how it becomes easier for 👿s to blend in... A very sad topic. But good to know. ;)
Oh my god I literally had this chat with my therapist a few weeks ago. I told her that my mood swings are severe but it turns out it was just my ptsd and that it apparently causes really bad mood swings. I mean it’s understandable I have ptsd considering what I went through but I was surprised when she told me
Dear lovely person that's reading this, we may not know each other but I wish you all the best in life! ✨
I believe in you! Love - Nat ❤️
please make more videos about BPD! they are very informational and helpful ❤️
also, could you make a video on how to help people when they don’t want to reach for help!
Sure thing! Thanks for the suggestion. We will let the team know.
Psych2Go thank you so much! 😊 keep up the great work
@@Psych2go I would love if u make more videos about bpd too and I love this video as I was diagnosed with both and now I understand how they different from my personal daily experiences xx
I love ur channel! If I ever have nothing to watch on yt I immediately come over to this channel and I find myself watching at least 3 videos at a time! Your amazing
BPD with trust issues… it’s SO hard because i wanna be with others and i want them in my life like i need them but it’s so hard to let people in when everyone before hurt and abandoned you
Thank you so much!! This is exactly the stumbling block my therapy comes across every time, and this video makes it so much easier for me to understand why and to explain it to my therapist
I have BPD, was misdiagnosed for years. And this hits right on the mark.
I think my worst symptom is the fear of abandonment. It is hard to realize when I’m acting on the impulse.
I'm fairly certain i got misdiagnosed with "BPD" when i was a kid... Great video... Thanks for highlighting the differences...
Me too
That’s interesting you were diagnosed young, I’m pretty sure that psychologists are either not allowed to diagnose people under the age of 18 with a personality disorder or it is extremely discouraged.
@@HokeyPokey81300 Hmmm... I did not know that ? I have no memory of it myself, and what i know, is what i was told by my late mom, in my early 20's...
Im so glad my therapist is smart ! I was diagnosed with Bipolar and CPTSD which I can see being hard to diagnose & could easily get confused with BPD . Thanks for the video ! I have friends with BPD and this helped me to understand how to better help them when they are struggling ♥️
The voiceover is very nice. A really good mix of professional and soothing that’s really rare.
I just went through a very traumatic event, and this video really helped me understand my emotions. Thank you.
I hope you'll be okay and I hope you find a safe environment that will allow you to heal. Please be patient with yourself and treat yourself with as much kindness as you can muster.
I first learnt about BPD after watching Arcane. I can relate to Jinx a lot.
My best friend is diagnosed with BPD and i got diagnosed with CPTSD, we both shared a lot of similarities, we even wondered if one of us got the wrong diagnosis but we both agreed that there are some differences between us, you mentioned all of it, thanks a lot for that.
Thank you for making this video. Counselors with degrees need to be aware of this. It seems like a lot of people get put into the wrong category and it can really cause long term issues and a false self identity that’s really confusing.
Okay this makes more sense to me now, because i always thought it was BPD symptoms that im dealing with but actually it's CPTSD. I was bullied for a very long time in school non stop, which in turn made me have nightmares of the events and people that hurt me, im 20 years old and i still get those nightmares constantly, it stresses me out and i honestly became "used" to it. My emotions are also very complex and i tend to snap at others a lot when they trigger some sort of unsolved trauma that i still deal with. Which ruined quite a lot for me. Even having a steady job is hard because i think being around people who i dont even know will in turn repeat the same traumatic event i've experienced.
This video made me understand my mental health a bit more, sadly i don't have the the money to cover any therapy costs or medication costs.
I got diagnosed with adult ADD, but in the back of my mind, I've always felt I really have CPTSD.
adhd doesn't really have many overlapping symptoms with cptsd, you could very easily have both. adhd is a learning disability, while cptsd is a mental illness.
This is the best explanation I have seen about the differences. Thank you 👍🙂
I was diagnosed with complex-type PTSD a couple years ago, but I wasnt 100% sure if it was C-PTSD, or BPD.
Now I am confident that the diagnosis was correct, it is definitely C-PTSD.
Wow I've been wondering if I had BPD but everything you said about CPTSD was right on the money. Made my eyes go really wide, thank you for this video.
Thank you! Felt very seen for my BPD and love seeing more educational videos about it!
Thumbs up if you were more confused after watching the video.
Interesting, your description of BPD matches my experience with untreated ADHD almost exactly, including the change in character AND self-perception.
i'd like to see a video on how the treatment differs between the disorders :) thanks for the awesome video.
BPD hits to the note for me as I struggle with self-identity and keeps saying if this is me for being miserably abused for 10 years and not to mention, I'm bad with handling my emotions as well 😭
This is a good example of how BPD can become a part of cPTSD, BPD cannot exist without abuse present it's the basis of the disorder, literally described by Marsha Linahan, creator of the DBT program as "growing up in an invalidating environment", this behavior doesn't just pop up out of nowhere, like other symptoms of PTSD, they're behaviors developed to cope in bad situations.
Now I understand a bit better why I was diagnosed with both of these. Thank you for this video!
I have BPD, am an avid #MentalHealthAwareness advocate and spoken word performer, and I love this so much. I travel the country trying to bring that awareness on stages, in classrooms, hospitals, and on my TH-cam channel, so I get excited when I see other advocates.
Also me: avoids relationships because it's easier than having to explain my weird brain disease.
And now I understand the differences my therapist was talking about. Thank you.
This explains my username and why I don’t speak to women who clearly have interest. I literally worry that if I speak to them it might end up in a relationship, so I intentionally never say anything to them. I am so freaking scared of a relationship. I have no car and not a lot of money, no one is gonna convince me that being myself will keep someone in a relationship with me. Idk this is just kinda random thoughts I guess. I don’t tell people how I feel irl, I do it here cause no one actually knows me here.
100% can relate, great video thankyou. Definitely clears up my uncertainty
Thank you so much for making this video. I'm in weekly therapy and diagnosed with PTSD, definitely complex after 42 years straight of traumatic events, but after watching videos about BPD I was really confused because I related to the people with BPD, but this made it clear to why I definitely don't have BPD and therefore I don't need DBT...I was worried I wasn't getting the help I should be getting to be a better mommy and human.
DBT is a good treatment for cptsd though
I have ASD(Autism Spectrum Disorder) but it's nice to know more about other disorders and how they function.
I'm on the spectrum as well I'm high functioning nice to meet you.
@@kyleslavik6324 nice to meet you as well.
@@lonewolfnergiganos4000 do you have high functioning autism since your on the spectrum.
Thank you!!!
This just strengthens my belief that I have been misdiagnosed.
I got diagnosed with both, and its really confusing because i dont know whether i should believe any of them or not.
P.s.: i got diagnosed with bpd at the mental hospital and with ptsd at my therapy
Cptsd and ptsd are not the same.
@@lfairy6130 i know that, thats why im confused
Yeah I went to a mental health hospital...maybe don't trust them. Was diagnosed with ptsd in therapy....I think they prob meant cptsd. Mental health field needs more development tbh. They don't really support ppl fr
lol i feel that about the inaccurate/confusing mental hospital diagnoses. the mental hospital diagnosed me with bipolar but my psychiatrist told me i have bpd not bipolar
I really needed to come across this so thank you very much.
This was so helpfull. I've been thinking I had cptsd in a very long time, this opened an eye for the alternative.
BI just wanna point out, the ordinary healthcare in sweden hasn't helped me.
It felt pointless last 1½ year to seek help.
But the ordinary healthcare where I live, doesn't have the resources and make false trust for the people that needs help.
And I pray for everyone!
Don't stop look for help if you know you need help, You will find the help and You Deserve it.
The help out there it will be there for you, don't worry
I was misdiagnosed around 7 years ago with BPD and I found out at the end of last year that it was CPTSD all along. This video helped me understand why I may have been diagnosed, thank you for helping me understand
Oh boy oh boy oh boy I found this helpful! I'm struck speechless in my state of absolute gratitude.. This video found me at the perfect time! I think I may have a little bit of BPD but mostly I relate with CPTSD more
Yesss, this is sooo helpful!! Tyssm :)
I have not been diagnosed with either disorder, but it was comforting to know that negative reactions such as inconsistent self-concept and flashbacks are treatable.
I am diagnosed with BPD. A friend of mine questioned if it had C-PSD. I think because I have the sub-type “Quiet Borderline,” he didn’t view me as showing signs of bpd. However when I researched the differences between the two, I see my diagnosis was accurate. I have a deep, intense & enduring fear of abandonment, fluctuating self-concept and I seek out relationships but will withdraw for fear of rejection/abandonment.
I can say with my own Complex PTSD which I was diagnosed with in 2017, it really impacted my ability to learn and memorize things in grade school up to college until I was taught how to learn differently and get info into my long-term memory. I definitely avoid relationships, haven't been in one since 2006!
This has been very helpful because it's been confusing. I was diagnosed with BPD but I could never relate to it because I never feared abandonment and being alone. I especially never feared being alone. I am hurt when people emotionally abuse by flaking on me, but I don't fear losing those people. I love being alone. I like having the right people around but a lot of persons are inconsiderate of my feelings.
this makes so much sense! thank you ;-;
My doctor diagnosed me with CPTSD a few year ago now. But I’ve recently learnt it’s not been added to the DSM5 and not actually officially recognised as a mental illness. No wonder I’ve found it very difficult to get the support and help I need.
This helped so much, thank you
Based on the descriptions of both disorders, it seems I have both conditions. I guess that's why it's so hard for me to recover. Thanks for sharing. It opened my eyes
u should get diagnosed
me too. Can’t work, chronic fatigue, avoid relationships completely, low quality of life. Having both is really tough. I wake up everyday not knowing what way i will be. Living hell.
As a BPD, cptsd sufferer life long now aged 61 I totally agree with you, also fight daily to find hope in an hopeless illness.
thank you for this, i had been thinking i had bpd (already diagnosed with cptsd) but the more I hear about how the symptoms manifest I doubt its bpd. this is why i wish the criteria would go in further detail. everything is so broad and general that its easy to check off all the symptoms.
extremely informative, this really explained alot and made me realise some things, thankyou
I have wondered for years if I had borderline but this really shows me I don't and that I'm acting more like cptsd victim, aside from the dating but I've avoided a lot of people for years and prefer to be left alone most of the time, even now. I do have a fear of abandonment but it's mostly for my dog because she's old and might die soon or in a few years. for everyone else, I'm just afraid of being attacked and criticized by them and I feel like I can't trust anyone in that way. I metaphorically pushed my boyfriend away just a few days ago because I thought he was verbally attacking me and I realized he wasn't when he held me and calmed me down. Then I realized something in my mind made my partner an enemy and a combination of every single abuser in my life so I had such a strong reaction towards him over simple sentences that triggered it.... the same sentences my abusers would always say. But in the moment, of course, it was hard to realize that he didn't mean it the same way so I lashed out to protect myself. And after I calmed down and realized how I behaved, I felt ashamed and guilty. I've also had two panic attacks in our relationship when he tried to make moves on me. I thought he was raping me and felt like someone else even though I knew it was him yet I couldn't control the way I reacted and panicked. I feel bad for my boyfriend and all the trauma behavior he has to put up with to be with me. But don't worry, I've been seeing therapists for years and group therapy and medication.
come for the mental health insight, stay for the beautiful animations. :') this video was so pretty.
this is a very helpful video. before i got diagnosed with CPTSD i was convinced that i had BPD. i think the biggest symptom that should have made me realize that i have CPTSD was the constant nightmares and hyper vigilence
It's helpful. Everything said states I do not have BPD but do have cptsd. Good video
Thank you for this one
Thankyou so much! I have bpd and I wondered this for a while.
Thank you for a very informative video. I found it very helpful.
I have C-PTSD thanks to my mother and my son was diagnosed with BPD at 12 years old... It broke my heart and I seriously thought I was going to lose him.
He's 19 yrs old now and he still struggles, BUT he doesn't contemplate suicide any more, thank God
So helpful. Thank you.
If it helps anyone, I self-injure and I have CPTSD, not BPD. But the way I self-injure is thru skin picking (hard to talk about, but again, might help someone). Until I started having flashbacks and nightmares about my abusive childhood, I didn't know why I did it and kept it a secret. Then I traced it to my mom and never being perfect for her (i.e, if I'm perfect, she'll love me). So I think it's connected to CPTSD since I don't have the other primary BPD traits. Sometimes I don't even know I'm picking. My diagnosis is CPTSD.
Great video
Thanks!!! 💗💗
I had some repeated bullying problems over the years, where I was the victim and, for some time, would have nightmares about what happened. It even started when I was a child, not to mention I felt I had a hard time trusting people after being mistreated, so I'm wondering if I might have C-PTSD.
Thank you for this video
This really helped me feel at ease that I have PTSD and not BPD
Another note from what I found researching these, in prolonged Narcissistic or emotional abuse someone can develop BPD or CPTSD, or both. Keep in mind that in emotional and narcissistic abuse, it may not be BPD or Quiet BPD. With prolonged abuse, especially those who grew up with/were in a relationship with a narcissist, it’s more likely CPTSD with Borderline traits and features. That’s where the line gets super hazy between the two. Self Concept and intense rage episodes that you may or may not remember is really the biggest defining factor between the two. Because CPTSD can mimic all kinds of borderline traits including the intense fear of abandonment.
Very helpful indeed! I saw a psychologist who said I have both C-ptsd as well as possible BDP. I definitely fell under both umbrellas, but feel the former affects me more than the later, or rather created it.
Good job. Accurate asf.
Hey everyone, as someone diagnosed with C-PTSD from a horrific childhood with a single BPD mother (financial, physical, verbal abuse and neglect from a very young age) I want to recommend IFS (Internal Family Systems) therapy which is done by a trained IFS counsellor. This type of therapy where you see yourself and others as having different parts (wounded part, protector part, etc.) which work together was life changing for me. IFS and MDMA-assisted therapy were the paramount experiences of my healing journey after years of trying different talk therapy, traditional and spiritual modalities. I hope this helps!