New Tesla Model 3 SR+ LFP battery in the UK. Charge to 100% daily now? Cold charge test.
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So the new Model 3 SR+ are now fitted with a new type of battery in the UK
Made in China car
Now LFP battery and no longer the 90% daily charge limit.
Any other changes?
This is just a brief test to show quoted range according to the car and I also need to supercharge it a bit. How fast will it charge?
Note: this is a cold charge, not driven or preheated prior. That always restricts charge speed but what will it be like?
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I have one of these made in China Models 3s (known as MIC 3's here in New Zealand) and have the following observations and pieces of information I have picked up:
1. LFP cells are less energy dense but because they don't suffer from thermal runaway issues the batteries made from them don't need to be designed to mitigate thermal runaway and therefore more LFP cells can be put in the same size battery pack, partly making up for the lower energy density.
2. LFP battery capacity, remaining capacity and discharge/recharge rate are harder to measure so the Tesla can take longer to learn the battery behaviour.
3. Tesla recommends regularly charging to 100% because a) that doesn't hurt the batteries and b) helps the system learn
4. I have yet to drive a long way in mine so it is still learning my driving style but at 100% it is estimating 440km range. Based on an open road non-motorway trip that used 31% I estimate a range of just under 400km which if it turns out to be accurate is fine with me.
5. As with yours there is no lumbar adjustment for the passenger
6. Out rear boot is motorised, yours appeared to be manual...?
7. Tyres are Michelin Pilot Sport 4, the same as I have on my Porsche, which was a pleasant surprise.
8. I'd agree with your comments about construction quality of the MIC Teslas, in fact hearing the Model 3 I could order was MIC helped me decide to get one. The quality issues of the USA made ones had been a slight turn off for me.
I agree with John's comments, I also have one in New Zealand and charged to 100% with 444km range. I easily get 45kw from a 50kw charger but have not supercharged as yet, only been a few weeks.
It looks like it is a motorised rear boot. Look and listen when he closes it!
I also have an LFP but I'm in the UK, I would disagree with point no3.
Although charging to 100% is more acceptable with an LFP battery, I still wouldn't regularly charge it to 100%, you only want to do that every couple of weeks to help calibrate the battery management system, this is main reason Tesla have mentioned charging to 100%.
But even though LFP are more durable, charging to 100% still does actually hurt it more than charging to 80 or lower, it's just that with LFP it can take those deeper charge cycles without showing it early on in the batteries life cycle... If you plan on keeping your battery or car for a long time, still maintain 80% charges with a 100% charge to calibrate the BMS every couple of weeks!
We get our Model 3 on Wednesday next week (New Zealand). I think it's the last shipment for 2021 from China.
Our other car is a 2016 Leaf and we keep that at 50-80% almost all the time.
I'm a little skeptical of Tesla's recommendation to keep it at 100% even though it's LFP.
Maybe I'm overthinking it and should just let it be, the BMS and cooling/heating of the Tesla pack is light years ahead of the Leaf.
@@Fiskaba I would advise you don't charge to 100 all the time if you want to make it last. They just want you to charge to 100 to keep the battery management system well calibrated as LFP batteries are harder to manage because they have a flat voltage curve. IT IS true that LFP will last longer, but pushing it to 100 all the time still causes accelerated wear, I have opted to do 100 fortnightly to extend the life of the battery and keep the BMS well calibrated.
I have the LFP model 3 and my experience is exactly as you showed here. The key is to precondition the battery. This happens automatically on long journeys, but you can also preheat by setting a scheduled departure time, even without being plugged in. You can do that in the app. Just remember to get it started about an hour before charging.
Can’t wait for the real world range and charge video. Keep up the good work guys 👍🏻
This is the video I needed to see. Thank you!
Great that you shared this to show the difference between hot and cold charging! Keep up the great work!
Looking forward to the range test. A December uk one would be great to see what the lfp sr is capable of doing
10 degrees is not that cold at all, that is spring here. ;) For those living in a block, this is not good news at all. Unless you charge in the evening, before getting home (still not ideal when you are tired to spend some extra half an hour or so only for charging). I would test it vs a non LFP.
SR+ (M3 RWD) has unused space in the battery compartment which has been part-filled with a larger volume of cells to get around the lower energy density problem. I believe there's also a slightly higher useable energy capacity vs the old NCA chemistry. And being able to charge to 100% without problem gives an automatic range uplift in everyday driving - I think it's a compelling package.
Great reference test to compare against a hot battery charge another time. LFP has lots of benefits, it also lasts a really long time with a cycle life many times cobalt based chemistries, not so sure about calendar (time) aging though.
Just tap the battery icon to toggle between MILES and PERCENTAGE. Great video as usual. A warm battery is a happy battery.
Just ordered this car and its due for Delivery in Feb 2022. Really looking forward to it. Great videos by the way.
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I have one of these from NZ too bought end of September and the range has been amazing. The promised WLTP is 448 but I have managed to get 416kms with another 20kms left on the display before I recharged. Obviously, we are in summer here and I have driven in a combination of motorway and inner-city roads. Definitely, range will reduce in winter but so far have found the LFP battery to be incredibly energy efficient and no visible range loss (battery degrad) after 6000kms. I am still getting about 425kms per charge and I can use up to 420 odd if I I choose to go under 5% charge. I haven't done any supercharging yet and I charge up to 100% once every 3 days by when the battery is down to 25%.I used to drive an MGZS EV before this and I have to say the range on this car for the size of the battery pack is incredible. MG was 44.5kw with WLTP of 265 km but that can only be achieved without the heater being on(no heat pump)and normally you will be lucky to get 230max. Tesla 54kw usable battery capacity and measured range in excess of 400kms on temperature above 18c (with liberal use of climate control) and possibly about 350kms in Winter( Auckland winter is very mild compared to winter in the UK). Following a software update yesterday, we now have heated rear seats and heated steering wheel options available for $500 as well.
I have a LFP battery (the slightly smaller previous version - Sept 2021). Agree it hates the cold. But have managed to achieve charging speed of 149kw/h , here in Scotland. But battery had to be preconditioned.
That's very impressive that
I’ve recently achieved around 230wh/mi on a drive where the temp was between -2, and 3 deg.
This equates to >200 miles in the cold in an SR+ 2021 with the LFP battery.
I’ve charged from 16% to 85% in around 17 mins too at a supercharger on the same journey as preconditioning is a must.
there is a video online where a preheated battery does 8-80 in 30min+. 16 to 85 in 17 mins is not gonna happen with the 60kwh LFP pack.
@@AERONOOBI’ll take your “there’s a video online somewhere”, and raise it with “real life experience” I’ve had..
8-80 in over 30 mins is either a slower supercharger, not preconditioned or a long range model.
@@pashton76 not "somewhere". Just youtube.
I'll take things that didnt happen for 300, alex.
@@AERONOOBoh dear.. maybe do some reading.. you’ll soon learn. Several things affect charge speed - temperature, state of charge, and which version of supercharger used.
you’ve no experience running or owning a Tesla yet claim to know more than someone who has.. bizarre behaviour to do what you’re doing on a 2 year old comment 😂
@@pashton76 I have SR+ and AmperaE. You dont get 16 to 85 in 16 minutes. Never never never.
Very informative well done
Hi Richard, I’ve had an MIC LFP SR+ in the UK since late March this year, one of the first MIC in the UK I believe. I checked with Tesla straight away when I picked up the car because of the missing daily charge limit. They told me that all made in China SR+ since we’ve been getting them in the UK are LFP. They recommend to keep the car plugged in whenever possible and regularly charge to 100% and at least once per week. I wonder why that is but you are right that you do get the extra range when you’re constantly at 100%. I drove across Europe approx 3000miles in total in the summer. I could see very consistent 165-175 kW charging speeds when the car is driven on motorway and the battery pre heats which works well on longer drives. What is interesting, the pre heating sometimes kicked in even about 40-45 min prior to arrival at the supercharger. Not sure how that compares to other battery chemistries but it seems long which adds to your point about people living close to chargers who don’t charge at home. Apart from that now in the winter I can feel some significant reduction in range especially if the car is stationary (I don’t charge at home … London living). But … all around superb car and if the numbers quoted for life span of LFP are true then those cars will be popular for resale and be around for a long time, I think.
Gone 15000 km since june with a mic lfp sr+ great car, deals decently with cold temps below 0. For the most part i use my Home charter. Fast changing gives about 80kwh if you give it some chance to preheat by plotting the changing destination in advance in 0 degrees
Heated wheel / rear seat - yes it does have heated, just wait a few days for it to be enabled (about a week after delivery it happens).
Mine were enabled at collection SR+ end Nov collection
Your side by side testing is great, would be good to see you arrange that . Looking forward to your content from across the pond 😉
Will try. Where are you based?
I’m heading to LA in a few hours
@@RSEV London , forgot to ask the other day , will the plaid have fsd beta , or will you be trying it out at all ?
After the software update (V.11), your SR+ 2021 does have heated steering wheel ;-). Nice vid!
I have the new rear lights on my September LR which along with the improved brake lights also has 2 reversing lights and larger indicators
Thanks for this info I was wondering whether my new model 3 has the LFP battery and it appears to have based on what you’ve said.
I have an M3 SR+ MIC (LFP) from Dec 2020 and I have made some charging power measurements through 2021, which is roughly similar to what I experience when the battery is not pre-conditioned. If charging starts at lower SOC than 36%, the charging power will be much better.
How can you not mention the best part of LFP - They last forever. Well 3500cycles until 80% of original capacity. I can believe it too, i have some 8 year old LFP in my solar system that haven't lost any noticeable capacity and provide plenty of high energy output day in day out. I specifically want the LFP Tesla over the NCA batteries even though heavier, i just wished they offered some more options on the SR like upgraded audio etc.
Audio upgrade for SR+ should be an official option in 2022 for SR+😊
That's amazing if true. 3,500 cycles X 200 mile range is 700,000 miles with at least 80% capacity. That's a big deal on the sustainability front.
@@sebstott3573 yup we already have a 1million mile battery right there I think. As long as Tesla's battery management is setup well. The 3500cycle rating is for full 100% discharge. You get about 5000cycles to 80% discharge.
I’ve had mine for six weeks and experiencing great efficiency, cold weather I never saw less than 220 miles and now, with the warmer weather it’s nearer 260. Just done 1200 miles in France and never had charge/range worries and indicated 200-220 w/h per mile despite motorway cruise at 70. Just a great value car!
Yep brilliant! I think the LFP is fantastic
Appreciate Richard if car has delivery mileage and needs some charge pre handover you're not going to borrow it for too long.
Lumbar support on passenger side was removed because they had data to show it was hardly ever used, nothing to do with chip shortages. Standard range now has a 60kWh battery, heated seats and steering wheel as standard, great
It's weird how the fanboys just regurgitate whatever Elon Musk says. It's increasing profit margins - the fact that your wife or husband adjusts it once and leaves it there or that it's mostly needed on longer trips which are more rare, is just an excuse for the stock holders.
@@aliancemd they are running a business so increasing margins is a good thing. I'd rather have a bigger battery pack than a passenger lumbar support switch
@@andylangleynz Battery packs will increase with prices going down, with or without Tesla(these increased up to this point due to mobile manufacturers), it's just the normal flow of technology. I guess you don't care other people pay more for less(or get basically scammed, thinking they get the features that were there), because hey, it doesn't affect you(or so you think) and it's all about individualism nowadays, isn't it?
@@aliancemd I got a bigger battery pack, heated seats and steering wheel for the same price as previous models without so actually got more. Can't really see what you're problem is with Tesla other than you probably don't have one
Not the case, it was removed because of part shortages. The fact that it wasn't often used is what made them go ahead and remove it.
This should also be one of the very new 62kWh cars. 437km @100% is a very good indicator. The old 55kWh LFP were showing around 424km. The new range is visually reduced since the larger LFP calculate with a consumption of 140Wh/km which is ridiculously high.
I noticed the new tail lights here in the US at a charger as well! On a 3.
To get the mileage, without going to the software page showing vin, on the right had side of the screen where the car is, swipe to the right to get the trip computer, (swipe left gives you tyre pressures) then on the trip computer scroll down all the way to the bottom and it will show the mileage...
We collected our SR+ on Saturday and it’s our first Tesla and love it. It’s in black and yes we have paint defects. What we have seen based on home charge stats, it now has a 60kw battery which is maybe how the new extended range comes from. I had read they were coming next year so gratefully received! Update a week later - heated steering wheel and seats have miraculously appeared!
What you have there is a unicorn. It has the bigger battery and the strong motor 325hp. The next shipment will be with the bigger battery and the weaker 285 hp motor with 6.1 sec to 60.
So guess what... Your cars used price will be hiiiiigh
@@baitish1 how do you know this car has the stronger motor, I picked my M3sr+ up on Friday
I got my on 24th November. in white and perfect. My got heated wheel and rear seats and 60kw battery. Had a phone call from tesla 2 days before delivery and comfirm its the 2022 model and I was one of the lucky few just before the price increased.
@@RayRay-bt1ww you’re so lucky, no such luck of heated rear seats and steering wheel
@@RayRay-bt1ww I got mine on the 24th November, Orderd 14th September, it cost £2000 less than the current cost from when I ordered and the model I ordered was SR+. My model is called Standard Plus in the app, if I log into my account under specs it's called RWD. The software update added the heated rear seats and steering, but I have no idea what motor I have and the Kwh battery I have or what model I have. It feels fast enough and the charge max lowest and highest that I have had is 271m to 275m. Confused :) How many miles on average does yours show on an average full charge and does anyone know what the 55kwh battery shows on average on a full charge?
I have a LFP SR+ that was built in California. I got mine in September 2021. I have fog lights and lumbar control in the drivers seat.
Thanks again Rich. As I've ordered one of these (due Feb So hoping for Heated seats etc), I'm really interested to see future Videos. I was concerned about Charge rate after seeing Bjorn Nylands Video, but it needs Tesla to sort out The Pre-heating, especially if you use a 3rd Party Charger. i.e Enter Destination & Tick box to say "Destination is a charger" Simples. See if you can have a word with Elon for us ;-)
Charging when warm looks to be very impressive. I look forward to trying one of these some more
I ordered one for Feb too, just got a delivery date yesterday, now collecting this weekend :) So it may be much sooner than you think...
If you update the software it will add the heated rear seats and stearing , I got mine 10 days ago had neither when I got it until i got home and update software, then they both appeared.
hi there collected our model 3 SR+ mid Sept how can i find out what battery its got also the heated s/wheel upgrade is it available to all?
If you are just a little bit of a nerdy type, then I would highly recommend the *) app + adapter, especially if you want to monitor the temperature of 1) the battery, 2) the heating/cooling circuit, 3) the engine. By daily follow the battery temperature, it is possible to get a much better understanding of the car's behavior and the impact on charging power, regeneration and more.
Note: *) TH-cam will remove this comment if I write the product name.
@RSymons you can just tap the battery percentage/range and it would switch to the other.
Hi Ray, another great video.
Picked my M3 LR on Monday, quality very good, few small scratches, only area of concern really is the lack of pint in the joint between the front wing and the cill, is yours the same?
Nick
Is your m3 lr equipped with lfp battery?
@@pizza88 Isn't that just on the SR+ rear wheel drive model?
How do you feel about having right-hand wheels on the left of the car?
Wondering if you've measured the weight of the SR+ LFP? On the website it still lists the vehicle weight as 1625kg. Thanks.
I don't think you'll get much cold weather testing out of Bjørn for the next month, he's either leaving for Thailand, or already there!
I thought that the plus in the model description had been taken off.
You commented on not showing the VIN but you actually showed it at just past five minutes.
Range test and supercharging with warm battery in cold weather would be great to see
Check out Bjorn Nyland’s videos - he just did one on charging in the cold (at various battery temps), and he did other ones a few months back testing the range on the LFP SR+
Your at the havant supercharger. I live in portsmouth. Shame they dont put car mats in the standard range.
Is the car disabled if you shield the mobile signal and gps antennas with something metallic? Is it dependant on the internet in order to work, will it still charge without an internet connection?
The paint is an option too...and the only reason the SR+ has the LFP battery is because it's less energy dense than Lithium so you need more cells to go the same distance and only SR+ has the room in the battery pack to add them.
The heated wheel and rear seats will be active today, do an update!
Efficiency is good, got 250 out of it in 0-10c. Needs a warm battery.
What was the average speed?
@@Medea007 good question, if only I could remember!
@Gore Limey was it 350 miles on sr+ also could you ask tesla for a lfp model from tsla. I sold my 330e 2020 model and hoping tp order an lfp model but conerned about getting atleast 400km single charge from it
was it 350 miles on sr+ also could you ask tesla for a lfp model from tsla. I sold my 330e 2020 model and hoping tp order an lfp model but conerned about getting atleast 400km single charge from it
@@anumohandasnair latest LFP says 441km at 100% and this is EPA range, so 400 should be safe for 9/10 journey's.
I've just ordered my sr+ last weekend and will be receiving it in about 2 weeks so i'm excited, wonder if i'll get an LFP too. It was strange as the website said probable delivery may '22 so I was happily shocked it comes almost 6 months early lol (Netherlands). Hope it does charge faster with future charging XD even my BMW I3 that i got now does it faster at a 50kwh charger haha
If it's a Standard Range, it's LFP. Been that way since February
I got my order in. :)
I take delivery of my Model 3 SR+ in March 2022. Heated rear seats and wheel will be a bonus, but i’ll be very annoyed if there is no wireless charging !
It is strange that you have had a really slow charge rate. Is this something worth revisiting at a later time after a few miles and charges??
Can't find the answer on the Tesla website. Apart from range and speed etc what else does the LR have ie does it have a better interior, better sound system. I know there used to be a difference over the old SR+.
Mr Symons - I appreciate you make your living mainly in the Tesla world but if you could only have one EV what EV would it be and why ?
I'm looking to buy the Ioniq 5 or the M3. I get the impression the M3 appeals to the more tech savvy people which I certainly am not. I have a Kona EV, would the M3 wow me after a test drive ????
Why not precondition for fast charge in this video? 22 model 3 RWD is a bit slower than 21 SR+.. but the wltp is higher at over 300miles , closing gap vs 90% LR MODEL 3 .. All models would see a 25% to 30٪ range loss in the winter regardless which ...
Is it still badged SR+? The entry level Model 3 has dropped the SR+ name and is now called Model 3 RWD. Official figures of a 305 mile range too according to the website.
New LFP range is quoted with 317Miles. 305M is quoted at the top of the Tesla build page with Sport Wheels, when you scroll down and change Wheels to Aero it shows The Range as 317, so your range test in Winter and summer will be really interesting.
It’ll never do 300…. Our long range doesn’t do that (see other videos).
If it can consistently go over 200 miles even in cold weather will be a great achievement.
Is 4680 with iron phosphate chemistry possible?
what advice is given if you do live near a super charger to get the battery warm enough, simply drive around aimlessly or preheat the car n the driveway?
You can preheat the battery from the Tesla app
There is heated stearing weel in your standard range+ I got it after i payed for heated seats back.
You didn't mention the other reason for Tesla to use LFP was to increase battery supply as they are using all they can make, all Panasonic can make and going LFP brought in a new battery manufacturer in CATL
Recycling will be more economic for Ni and Co containing batteries. Recyclers pay for Ni and Co containing batteries and charge for LFP. LFP will be more of a waste treatment at the back end, which is ok since the minerals are less expensive and common. With the growth curve, recycling will only partially answer supply. LFP mated with efficient car is pretty exciting.
I'm planning to get the M3 SR LFP in September this year. I'm afraid I can't charge at home till next year so I would have to charge mostly at the super charger on my way to work. Probably once a week. Would that be a problem?
Shouldn‘t be a problem. The slower the charging speed, the better. You could also charge at 11kw-stations if your time table fits
My model 3 SR+ has the wheel heat and back seat heat after a long time upgrade. The range is 271 miles in current temperature (0~ 10). I assume the range in summer might be over 300 miles. I ordered the model 3 SR+ at the beginning October 2021, and collect it on 29th November 2021. So, for the November collection, I guess you need to upgrade the software first, and then the wheel heat and back seat heat will show.
I have driven my model 3 SR+ for 3 days. Up to now, the estimate range is 95% accurate. For example, if you drive 95 miles, the estimated range will decrease by 100 miles or less (in current temperature).
Interesting thing... The tesla will upgrade the game first.... then the map. At last the software...
Wow great range!
Does the Tesla Model Y have the LFP battery?
FWIW, my LR Model 3 I received in May did this for the first few charges, before eventually showing the daily / trip labels.
turns out the heat pump in the car is only around 700 watts. despite the heat from the pump, charging, and stator, it remains cold. in Munro's LFP video, it appears there's plenty of space left in the battery pack where they could have integrated an electric heater for the cells
A cording to musk, nobody used the lumbar much in the passenger seat. So they removed it
You might be able to upgrade to heated steering wheel with a purchase and software unlock.
I collect mine on Saturday from southampton and was wondering if they come with floor mats as standard?
This one didn’t… 😔
They were standard in June ‘21 when I picked mine up. I’d be surprised if they weren’t there now. I think I saw the rear one fitted in the video.
Picked mine up 24th November and it had floor mats
In this video your battery is cold and as we saw it affected the charging speed. I am new to electric vehicles and wondering whether to purchase one. You mention warming the battery up. How long would this take? How many miles would it take? Love the videos.
Normally a good 30-60 minutes to precondition the battery for optimal charging temps. But the good news is Tesla manage this automatically so if you are on a trip and navigating to a Supercharger, the car knows this and starts heating the battery automatically. The downside is this beahviour only works for Superchargers. If you are charging on other fast chargers, car won't "know" so won't do the preconditioning. For charging at home on 7kW AC, none of this matters. You'll get the full 7kW regardless of the weather.
@@ted_maul thanks Mark. That’s good to know.
Is this the 55kwh or 60kwh battery?
charging to 100% most likely is so the battery cells can balance out and maintain the same cell voltage, and and not drift apart over time. Very well known in the diy LFP solar circles.
I'm in Australia, and my daughter just bought a new model 3 standard range. She is complaining that the car will only get 200ks from a full charge. She has had the car for 5 weeks now. The other issue is that the tyre pressure monitor continually goes off.
How do know it's LFP? Tesla sales won't say it or don't know even during delivery if it is the new out old cell
slower 0-100, i think it is 5.8 seconds now. higher specified range.
Hi. You told that lfp battery gives around 200m. That is just more as Nissan Leaf. What point pay above 40k for 200m when leaf cost much cheaper??? Explain me please!!
Nissan Leaf has 37kwh, this has 53kwh (usable).
Leaf suffers greatly in cold weather being e.g. a highway range of 95 miles whilst this in the same (cold) weather can do 155 miles.
Leaf has max of 46kW charging in any weather, whilst this can pull >170kwh after pre heating (which it always will if you use the screen satnav).
This can do 0-60 in 5.6 seconds vs 7.9 in the leaf.
This has 321bhp whilst the leaf has 148bhp.
This has the large display for music, netflix, youtube etc.
If you opt for it, this has autosteer, auto speed, can keep the same distance between you and the vehicle in front etc.
This also has the heat pump giving you much faster heating in to the cabin, whilst simultaneously using much less power than the leaf heater.
This has auto lights. It also has heated steering wheel and heated rear seats if opted.
This has electronically adjusting seats and steering wheel.
This has updates pushed out all of the time to improve the car further.
Ah I saw earlier on the Tesla site that the SR+ can now do a claimed 305 miles. If it’s a new battery that explains it
It's also bigger, 60kWh now
God luck with that :) I'm getting around 200 of real world range. WLTP predicted range is something of a nonsense.
Hi, Is it still possible to order a Tesla model 3 SR+ MIC with a towbar? Thanks!! 😀
Yes. I ordered an LR with a towbar at the end of October. I collect it on Saturday.
There isn't an option to order a towbar directly via the website. You order your car then ring up Tesla and they will add it to your order over the phone.
This is for both the SR+ & the LR. As far as I know you've never been able to spec a Performance with a towbar.
@@peterwilliamson1825 Thanks !!! 👍😀
@RSymons RSEV Good news! Tesla road planner is preconditioning battery for Ionity supercharges - just noticed yesterday - apologies if its old news :) Thank you guys for excellent video, again.
I'm in the uk and my model 3lr is due Feb. I ordered it last week I wonder if it'll be a Chinese or Berlin build
It's likely to come from Shanghai - I'd suggest it could already be on its way, typically takes 2 months to ship, 5000 cars per time
Definitely Shanghai. Berlin won't be up to speed until 3rd quarter
I'm reading elsewhere that battery degradation is at a much slower rate on LFP, which may mean better residuals on this model?
In the USA these things drop like a stone in value, maybe the Americans know something the Brits don't
How long to charge to 100 percent?
HI All,
Ill got my M3LR this week, I guess this one has a LG battery right? is this one ok to charge 100% daily ?
No the long range are 90% recommended daily max.
Only the recent SR in the uk is 100% regularly.
Your charge level display with show “daily” 50-90%
Sadly not a video unto the usual standard.
Several comments that were made are misleading.
The heated steering wheel and rear seats, require a software update.
LFP batteries have been used for the last 12 months, now the cars are being shipped with a different motor hence the increased 0-60 time.
Actually the 0-60 time is increased in the new version; 5.8s rather than 5.3s.
Just to clarify, are you saying that there will be cars delivered without wireless phone charging functionality? That's one of many huge selling points for me and the absence of it would unfortunately be a deal breaker for me on delivery day...
Two other things about LFP:
It likes to be charged to 100% unlike the NCA batteries.
LFP is more susceptible to the cold. You lose more range with LFP compared to NCA when it comes to cold temperatures.
I noticed a set of mud flaps in the boot on the video, does the model 3 come with free mud flaps?
Uk now comes with little ones usually fitted at front as standard. In the box are extended ones but they tend to scuff the ground on speed bumps etc so not really useful
@@RSEV many thanks Richard, what about mats in the RWD Model 3?
Keep the awesome videos coming.
@@chrisroberts9860 yes now get mats! 👍
I’ve been ill with covid recently but hopefully recovering now and more videos to follow asap!
@@RSEV get well soon, hopefully you haven’t had it as bad as I had it November last year.
What hp do these SR+’s/rwd have? Figures seem to differ online from 245hp, 280hp and over 300hp.
First LFP's were using the rear performance motor, so 325bhp, rumours are the 60kWh will have the new J motor, (hairpin design), with 283 ish bhp, hence slower 0 to 60.
A few "unicorns" around, lucky people who got 60kWh and 5.3 to 60!
@@kenmitchel thanks Ken. I’ve just placed an order for a new RWD delivery in March. God damn it haha
@@WolfieJon Mine is due March as well👍
How to travel long distances with lfp batteries??? Half time sit in charging places???
See other video, with real world scenario. When warmed after driving a little bit they charge really fast. I did say this video was very much not real world
People will mention the mining issue, probably because they are sick of the hypocrisy from EV owners, they think because their car is electric they are not causing pollution.
@@dougbhorne your right if you drive you pollute simple as, let's face it those cars couldn't exist without oil or operate without oil, and the majority of things on this planet require oil.
Does model 3 performance come with LFP BATTERY?
No
Does the car have a heat pump. Can you preheat the battery?
Comes as standard now
Yes. Setting the destination in navigation to supercharger will pre-warm the batteries. I’ve had 720mph charging, others have claimed 1000mph+.
When tapping the screen to change % to miles tap the actual % not the little battery.
That is incredibly slow supercharger charging! Even for a cold battery! I have done supercharging with cold battery with my long range Model 3, and it starts out about three times as fast as yours did and gets faster as things warm up. Perhaps i will do some research on this issue and get back to you.
That's one of the few downsides of LFP, cold weather performance. Not an issue if you can charge overnight or preheat the battery on the way to a charging station.
Does anyone know how many miles per charging hour I will get from a standard 13 amp socket for a model 3 ? I’m guessing 8 to 10 per hour but this is based on American owners figures of 4 to 5 miles at 120 volts mains.
Yes about 8 miles per hour from a 13a plug
@@RSEV thanks. That would do for my driving needs.
You should of gone to another charger site so it would heated up the battery on the way. Just as bjourn did.
New car, couldn’t drive it. We’ll try do more tests at later date
the great thing about lfp is that you can charge to 100%
...without affecting long-term battery health
like he says, the key here is that lithium iron phosphate are cobalt free. thats the game changer for me.
Have tesla stopped the free 1 year subscription heard they only give 1 month now
Yup
If you navigate to the charger in the screen, the car will warm itself up before you get to the charger because it knows it's going to charge, and charge faster