BMW X5 Cost of Ownership - E70 Diesel
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- BMW X5 Cost of Ownership - E70 Diesel
What does it cost to own a BMW X5 E70? Well, there's the initial cost, and then there's the cost of ownership. Well, here's all of my last 5 years' costs and therefore I'm showing you my cost of ownership.
The #BMW X5 E70 also has some regular maintenance costs that go into the #cost of #ownership, but the larger items are the big ticket failures that you'll see here in the video.
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Been driving BMW for 17 years. I am a mechanic of 20 years. It’s nothing to me. I buy 1 year old certified. And I warranty every little thing before the warranty ends. My tip.... Buy your advisor a Starbucks gift card and for the mechanic. Goes a long way! I had brakes warrantied only because the advisor told me I always give him Starbucks gift cards and it’s no skin off his back. Nice video!
Have X5 diesel for 9 years. Every time dealer gives me a quote I manage to fix the issue 2-5 times cheaper. Just do your research online.
Thanks for the video. @ $2000/year I think you are still ahead of the game. Can't think of a comparable vehicle that could be had for $167/mo. Wife and I have owned our X5d e70 now for 2.5 years and have, fortunately, not had to spend near the money you have to keep it on the road. We have done a few of the repairs you mention, glow plugs/module, full front/rear brake service, and replaced tires once. Done the complete front suspension and cooling system as well, but I do all the work on the car. I think we've spent ~$2500 US or ~$84/mo. About half your monthly expense when you break it down. BMW's are certainly expensive to maintain if you are paying a shop to fix your car. I never recommend them to anyone unwilling or unable to work on their own vehicles unless in warranty from BMW. They are incredible vehicles (we've had near 15 of them), but come with their own maintenance schedules and design flaws. Thanks again for the video, hopefully it opens the eyes of potential X5d buyers as to how expensive they can be.
I’m must applaud your honesty Mark,at first I took you for just a hardcore BMW fanboy but lately you’ve being proving to be an honest car enthusiasts...Keep up the great videos,we may not always agree but I’ll always be subscribed.
After watching this video I dropped my plans to get 2012 X5 M
SB Rao A coworker of mine plans on getting the same year I think,but he’s a hardcore fan of the brand so there’s no changing his mind.
@@sbrao169 get E53 incline 6 engine. Very reliable X5’s as I currently own one with over 100k miles 👌
I have a 2009 BMW 3.0sd which Im driving almost everyday (I own it almost 5/6 years). The biggest cost it made to me was 1500TL (300dollars for a ball mill). All I do is filters changing etc just like every other regular car.. If you can find a clean well drived X5 theres no need to be afraid of that it will make you spend much money on it. X5 is a reliable car...
I just bought a preowned 2018 x5 35d. Thanks for putting this video together, it’s a great reference.
I was intending to buy a 2010 x5 30d with 130,000 kilometers, after this review I'm sure I won't get it, thank you!
Thanks for watching
Maybe Genesis GV80 a better choice?
CEL [check engine light]. That should be the name of a BMW model. Their ad could be like "Come explore the new BMW CEL and find out why walking might be an alternative for you!"
Agreed!
YOU BRING LOTS OF VALUE IN YOUR CONTENT THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!
I appreciate that!
Thanks for sharing that information. I had a 2011 35D and it was a rather problematic vehicle. I am not sure what my maintenance cost were but I knew my BMW SA on a first name basis because of the number of times she was in the shop. I loved the E70 but too many issues for me. Great video and please do keep the truth in ownership videos coming.
Torland L. Charles lol
Great video. It really helped me make up my mind. I would probably lean to a N55 powered one since I have dealt with all of those issues.
Thanks Mark. I have an e70 here in YVR, so good to know
Great vid, well done, Have a great day, William
Great video and thanks for sharing. I have a 2013 BMW X5 35i Premium. Bought it 74k miles in 2018 and just approaching 100k. I've spent less than 5k so far on tires and suspension and oil changes. Best vehicle I've ever owned! I know I will eventually start getting some kind of codes. Some who can afford it buy BMWs new or lease them and get rid of them after lease ends or vehicle gets to that 50-70k mark. That's really the only way to avoid getting nailed with the bigger maintenance costs. But either way your gonna pay up front or pay on the backend for the used. Just have the savings built up.
I will start off by saying not really a bad price for 5 year maintenance. Try owning a Land Rover for five years your maintenance will triple .. golden rule for these euro cars don’t go to dealer after the warranty is up look for a private mechanic
Facts. My mechanic charges half or even LESS than the dealer. Saves me a headache and some $$$,
Great video, I appreciate your honesty
Thanks a bunch Scott
This is more of the type video im interested in..
My 335d runs at 171F. Much cooler than a gas car. Easier on the cooling system. Most of this stuff can be done by the owner. Don't have to pull head for glow plug break. Pull out of the injector hole.
And delete all the emission stuff, get a tune, replace harmonic balance. All diy. Except send ECU off for the tune.
And how many km/mls have you put on yours after this? Was it hassle free?
Not easy but if you can turn a wrench should be no problem. I think I have 35k on it since. Also use bimmer geeks dongle to read the computer and clear any random codes.
Wow another great video, you're awesome for doing videos like this. THANK YOU. Me personally I'm going to stick to gas engines.
I drove BMW's almost exclusively for 35 years.
Every one I bought was less reliable then the one I had previously.
BMW service in my area is both incompetent and expensive.
I bought two Buicks...Yes Buicks!
A 2019 Regal GS and a 2018 Regal Tour X.
Both are rebadged Opel Insignia's and they drive 90% as well as a BMW at 60% of the cost.
Service is competent and reasonably priced.
I thought I would miss my Ultimate Driving Machine but BMW hasn't deserved the moniker for years.
Also BMW's have become as common as bellybuttons.
Everybody has one.
Both of my Buick's are fairly rare and I have gotten several compliments on both.
William Egler Have they been more reliable than your previous BMW? I’ve always had a soft spot for certain Buicks but never pulled the trigger on owning one.
@@penvon 100% fault free.
The Tour X I use for daily commuting and a month ago I drove it on a 10485 mile roundtrip to Alaska.
32 mpg at 80 mph in perfect comfort.
It needed a oil change while in Juneau.
Cost all of $49.00 at the dealership.
Fully agreed with you. My X6 cost me $2000 to $3000 a year to maintain. It was pain in the butt. The car of course looked good, but it was so unreliable till i was not confident enough to drive for long distant. I bought a second car Volkswagen to back up my X6. Each time sent for repair at least 3 to 4 days i need to drive my back up car. Now i plan to sell it....guess what...i could not find a buyer.
Jason Ong I’ll buy it for the lowwww
Very good. My 2008 was a money pit. Lights were constantly coming on. I was afraid to drive it, wondering which light would come on next. Mechanic said to get rid of it quick, the head gaskets were about to need replacing. This, just after replacing valve covers, starter, water pump, oil pan, and dealing with a microscopic oil leak that could not be fixed.
Wow, sounds like a painful experience, which engine did you have in there.
@@ECPP he had the wack engine.
I think you forgot to add one cost. The blinker fluid, i always run out of blinker fluid 😔
You've probably saved anywhere from $800 to $2,000 per year in fuel costs by driving the Diesel, depending on how much you drive. Not only Diesel is around 20% cheaper than the 95 octane gas (at least in Canada, where I also live) but also this X5 diesel consumption is 30% less than the gas powered version.
For example if you drive 20K a year, you need roughly 1500 liters of diesel @1.2, that is $1,800; the gas version would need 2200 liters @1.4 that is $3,080.
3,080 - 1,800 = $1,280 in Savings, that is HUGE in my accounting books!
For sure, I love it. Plus cruising distance is amazing
Agreed, in the USA (I’m canadian btw) they seem to charge a 30cent premium per gallon which is bizarre from my viewpoint because in Canada it is about the same. For long distance touring and economy there is no better choice. I’m a diesel guy anyways so you are preaching to the choir. There may be a little extra maintenance when it comes to diesel complexity but n my books it is worth it.
Hi there! Thank you for great content! You were really meticulous with your accountancy. I appreciate honesty as it's not something everyone is capable of while in love with their car 😉 Anyways, I can see one comment after another saying it's so bad and so on and blah blah blah, but than again, how many of them (commentators) are so precise to keep the record of tires cost in Hyundai? The main thing here (talking about BMW cars) is that we should compare apples to apples and keep that in mind. Compare BMW to Mercedes, Audi, Range Rover. Comparing BMW to Toyota (or other Vietnamese products) makes only sense in the area of wheels number or the top speed, but not the driving quality. Yes I know Lexus IS good, and Infinity but it's a whole different ride. I am not saying that you did that but reading the comments... well, some people do that. On the other hand, from what you said, seems you have stumbled on some sort of engineering incompetence as some parts were apparently changed in the manner of "looking for the fault on the owner's expense". This might pump up the total cost in significant way as we cannot exclude additional faults built up on the faulty service. Authorized BMW service is always good at warranty service but not much more than that, oh maybe, except tripling the labor cost available anywhere else - this, they're brilliant at 😀
Thank you very much and yes you summarized it very well. It always helps to have a great Indy mechanic too.
Thanks Mark for posting, I’m thinking of buying the last model year X5 35d (2018) because I am a diesel guy want to tow a light travel trailer and do some long distance touring and diesels excel at those two things. Just a couple of questions 1. What do you get average in litres per 100km? 2. You didn’t mention fuel filters either do you do that? I’m similar to you where I do some jobs but other big hassle jobs not. 3. What do you think of the 2018? It’s the last model year the diesel was available sadly. Also 4. range on highway on a full tank?
Marc, what about the fuel filters for the common rail fuel system?
How often do you change them?
And do they have a hand primer to prime the system after filter replacement
Thanks and I love your videos.
I own an 2013 BMW X1. Paid $8500 for it two years ago and have paid out nearly $6300 in repairs and maintenance over the last 17 months. Most of the money ($4200) was consumed in my initial major service when I directed my mechanic to repair everything that was identified in the inspection report. A week later I shelled out $600 for a new set of tires. Another large outlay of about $1000 came six months later when the radiator sprung a leak and had to be replaced. The used BMW will almost always be the cheapest element of your BMW experience.
Cheers
I drive an e70 for 8 years. Can not agree more with you!
Lei Yuan do you recommend?
@@nachovarga596 I wonder the same thing.
We bought a Hyundai matrix in 2002. Due to economic difficulties with my dad's business and later with the global economic crisis, we could not maintain it properly. We were barely able to change oil and even that we did sparingly. This car has now gone way past the 350k km mark. The engine burns oil and it has fairly bad compression due to neglect and abuse all these years, and the car is quite beat up overall, but so far we haven't dropped more than 3k for maintenance in the 19 years we own it, and I am fairly positive we have never spent more than 100 euros on failures(which were completely minor interior electrics). My point being, why is a car costing 15k at most less prone to problems than a car costing multiple times that? Why paying more doesn't guarantee me a quality product? I mean, I know that a bigger more powerful car needs more expensive parts to work properly, but damn make them last, Gee! Anyway we got a second matrix used from 2004, over 160k km on it. Couple of things broke from the previous owner, we fixed, barely 200 bucks. It's expected to go for years.
Very nice video
I have driven an e70 for 8 years .can not agree more with you!
Damn. I have owned a 2009 BMW 335i convertible for 9 years. I bought an used one. I’m sure i have spent a lot to maintain it. I loved that car but maintenance was frustrating. Specially the coolant leak, oil leak. Finally had to let it go. As it had radiator leak. Probably had other problems too. Wanted to fix it but decided to let it go. I did not fix it because I had to change run flat tiers every year. One mechanic told me the car is slightly blend in the middle which is causing inner tier getting bad faster. 😢. I miss that car.
Some companies repair Active Tank for CAD$600 with lifetime warranty. No need to pay CAD$2500 + 13% tax
Once you mention the DEF heater. I can feel you. I spent 1300usd on 13 ml350 blue tech. Plus 4 seniors along the exhaust pipe. $700 each after market. Good luck bro
You shouldve just sent your ecu to have it tuned for around $700. Eliminates all that emissions crap
It almost makes me think if buying a newer domestic car for what you paid for the x5 plus the 10k would be a newer car with less problems, wondering if that would be the move and less headache
Would you recommend, someone to buy one of these used, or just over all or no?
Your videos are great! I just wish you told us what the codes were!
Cheers
Taking your BMW to the dealer as opposed to an independent mechanic is why a lot of this maintenance was so expensive. $1700 CAD for glow plugs?? Absolutely no way.
Great and honest video Mark. Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts to continue to put money into a vehicle that is worth approximately $15K and that you know is expensive to repair. Maybe a video on the financials of keeping vs selling a used vehicle in the near future. Cheers!
Hey BMW friends, how much E70 airbag pump noise is normal? I bought a used E70 and replaced the airbags. The pump is pretty loud, about as loud as one of those 12v plug-in tire pumps, but a little more "rattly" sounding. It's always sounded the same so I don't know if it's normal.
There will be some noise but should. It. E really loud
Hi, I’m Walter, I’m from Costa Rica. I do want to know what do you recommend? E70 diesel or petrol. Or F15 diesel or petrol.
E70😍
You are lucky the DPF did not go. I had to replace mine. I did DPF refurbishment (big mistake) 700 euro, exhaust manifold plus glow plugs 3200 Euro two months ago. Latter at the BMW dealership, excellent service, first at an amateur shop. They ruined it. Need new summer tires, about 1350 euros.
Anyway, very expensive all this.
Tarik Gunay what is your drive cycle like with regards to your DPF?
Steve Knight hi Steve, I sold my E70 unfortunately. One of the reasons were these costs. It’s about 200K KMS
Tarik Gunay I was wondering if you did a lot of short drives, the dpf needs some long drives at least 15 minutes for a regen to complete.
Steve Knight Nope. I used to work 50 KMS away. Drove at least 100 KMS a day. Did vacations twice a year. So plenty of re-gen opps.
DPFs just a have lifespan of about 200k. Other stories are not true.
Maaaaan, you just scared the crap out of me! I gotta get rid of this car. I had it for two years with very low mileage at 30, 000 and heading to 70K now, but started to get engine light after light....I have to think hard going forward.
Which X5 you got?
Brovez I have a 2011 35d Xdrive; I have the same codes: P2620 throttle position output circuit and also, P0675 cylinder 5glow plug circuit. I think both of those you explained and fix on your truck.
Anybody who owns a diesel somewhere along the way is going to have to do a glow plug.
we have a 2018 x5 diesel and we deleted all of the emissions bullshit. this thing is amazing without the emissions crapola. we get 620 pound foot of torque and 400 HP. it drives like a fast car😁. plus it's more reliable and less maintance NO DEF fluid no EGR issues no DPF plugging up. that's 4000 in us what the dealer told me. then he said just to delete the emissions crap
There's another video where the windshield cracked right down the middle. So perhaps that is common
It might be
I do not understand many things?
On your last fault, BMW fix add blue heater under extended warranty
Why previous problems BMW does not fix under extended warranty?
Do these problems become more common with BMWs in the United States compared to the UK or Europe?
X5's are made in USA:
Great video. I was wondering if you would recommend a 07 x5 with 118k miles on it?
Yes if you can do a little work on it yourself and I would say stay away from the V8 versions.
@@ECPP ok thanks...it looks like I'm getting me a bimmer then
Absolutely no
Sighs...those figures raised by blood pressure for sure..really don’t think the diesel x5 is the best i have 2011x5 gas and it runs perfect with good maintenance.great vid.
Thanks for watching
You can blame MB for ruining the diesel engine with the DEF system in order to sell DEF and more parts... Buying a diesel with DEF off sets the fuel saving from an efficient diesel engine and BMW went further and uses run flats...
The cost of DEF is insignificant I can fill my def tank for 30$ and be good for another 15,000 km.
this is not the suv you want to pay to play lol btw you still make great vidz
No wonder I see so many used x5 for sale .. ..
They are pretty good though and we love ours
$200 for service? Honestly I cant tell if that's even all that bad, comparing to Maserati's $450+ oil change cost...lmao
True and even further for the Lambo
ExoticCar PlayPlace yep and even further for the hypercars 😂
Well shit I've spent $4k (US) in DIY parts in half that time about 2.5 yrs. On my e46. So $8K in 5 yrs. seems par for the course with these plastic crappers
Ok so you bought a use BMW yhat waa 5 years old. And during those 5 years or cost you an additional $10.000.00. Every video that I've watch about BMW tells me to NOT purchase a used BMW. And after warranty get another one. Can you do a video on this topic. And what the averages cost will be after the warranty. Thanks.
Love the channel
I just replaced the passenger rear air suspension bag on my bmw e70 35d @ a cost of e350 supply and fitted. Now when the car is parked over night , the airbag in my opinion deflates. Mechanic said it meant to go to sleep when the car is not running. However it does pump up when you turn on ignition and drives perfectly with no warning light as regard suspension on dash. My hunch tells me mechanic has done a botched job as there’s still an air leak when vehicle is parked overnight. Please can you or anyone on this platform advise.
One thing a lot of people are not mentioning is he bought the car for what? Probably less than 1/2 the cost of new got a fairly new car with very low depreciation costs. If the maintenance costs are next to zero on a new car you pay hugely for the privilege of driving a new car. It’s probably 20,000$ that first year. I’m prepared to have some hassle and for it to cost me a bit more to save on my true cost of driving; THE DEPRECIATION! To each his own. PT Barnum was right a fool and his money are soon parted!
Great video, thank you. I´m just in a process of buying an X5. Regarding the tire change - you didnt mention how many km you do a year. I had to change mine summer tires on 740xd after only one year. They lasted for 20 -30 thousand km. And as for the total cost of owning, it sums up to be just 2.400 CAD a year, and that I consider extremely cheap :)
This vehicle sees about 15 to 20009 kms per year
That’s pretty much an average number of KM per year.
So I’ve had my 2009 BMW X5 diesel for almost 2 years and I’ve spent $3500 on it so far. I’ve had a $6500 quote for 3 fuel injectors and all glow plugs, the bulkhead compartment but supposingly I brought it to another mechanic and he said they don’t have to be changed just cleaned. A month after I’ve had a CHECK ENGINE LIGHT come on and I brought it to the dealer and he said I can’t seem to find anything but there’s a lot of carbon built up, you should drive on the highway. Two weeks later the CEL is still on. I don’t like going to BMW dealership because they charge too much for just looking at the vehicle. Any advice?
Sounds like o2 sensor or if it is carbon you need to red line the car floor it on the highway a few times take it to a place that will clear the code for free or TH-cam how to clear the code at home then see what happens I would do the sensor last as that will cost money
放心！
M47真的很可靠！
This all seems too much especially the brakes is this Canadian money or US dollars?
Canadians get ripped every time and the dealer network often plow the consumers here
Almost 400 by I'd for a vacuum leak repair? You should have fought that, especially cause you told them what to do.
I hear ya. Often feel ripped off.
so in 2022 still driving the e70 x5?
It’s now been sold
@@ECPPGreat cars we own two e70 x5's 30d one with 230000km and the wife's with 160000kms still strong ..no need for heated seats down here in Australia
Roughly $2k per year - that's not bad for a pretty nice car.
Plus that's without much DIY.
Exactly!!!!
This is the Canadian thing I’ve ever watched
Cheers
ExoticCar PlayPlace Great video. How many miles/km do you have on the car now and how has the reliability been? What to look out for on higher mileage cars?
Oil change 200 if done by yourself 🤔🤔🤔I think not
Uuufff costly
I have grown to hate this car
Heater fan go out on yours yet?
When you own a used car you should expect to pay half of what it would cost to own a new car. Ie 12 x monthly payment/2= yearly cost. If you expect to pay nothing to drive after you pay off a car you’re not realistic.
$2000 / year is realistic.
The real question is what was the cost per year as COMPARED TO OTHER CARS. If BMW is more then you have a story. Right now you’ve told me nothing useful and you can’t even say if BMW is too high COMPARED TO OTHER CARS. you are just saying it cost you a lot. So get a bike.
I appreciate Mark putting this up because I’m considering buying an X5 diesel so this is very useful to me, it makes me comfortable about taking that risk of buying an “exotic” BMW. From my experience maintaining an older Honda and I’m like Mark I track my maintenance costs VERY closely am handy and do some of my own work myself. I had a rule of thumb where it was about 100$ CAD per month to drive that car. Granted I drove 20,000km and later 30,000 km per year (we moved). It turns out the more you drive it the more it costs because some items are triggered by distance. ANYWAYS that rule of this as time went by is probably more like 150$ or even 200$ per month. There is a Bathtub principal in owning used cars where the cost goes down at say 1-2 years and spikes back up at say 12-15 years. I generally buy my used cars at 3-4 years and sell at 12-15 years to take advantage of that low sweet spot on the maintenance curve. At the end things like brake and tranny lines and structural issues come up so I now don’t hold for 15 years because I’ve been burnt (financially) by a money pit car. That is what this post is all about. THANKS MARK. I’m a diesel guy (VW) and an thinking of buying one of f these in the last model year (2018) any thoughts. They hopefully worked out the kinks of that generation of chassis. (I always like to give the manufacturer at least a couple of years to work out the kinks!)
Who the fuck takes their car to a dealer? Unless it just for diagnostic
Thanks
You own a bmw you need to work on it yourself. Brakes, 400 rotors and pads.
Freaking E70 endless money pit the only luck for you if you buy parts yourself from germany and have indy mechanic replaced for you, or you screwed ;D mine again on driveway waiting for master cylinder
Thank you for sharing! You just reinforced another reason NOT to buy a BMW. If I were to buy German, I would get an Audi instead.
tikimaka1 Audi/vw? After the diesel scandal? Not me
Lol Audi is even worse.
Yeah I’m out
Thanks for watching
😱😱😱 I think I will stick to Toyota
Wise man 👍
Just going to say, I’m here researching the e70 to replace my wife’s total POS Toyota Highlander with there government forced abs actuator recall failure that covers only 2 of the 5 years they used the defective part. $3k repair. It’s a hybrid with a 2 year old replacement battery I’m scared will fail at anytime or the inverter that failed in previous years but supposedly not her year that would cost $12k to fix. I’m a very happy e60 550 owner and I’ve concluded that at least the BMW is worth fixing while the noisy slow tin can time bomb Toyota is not. Other obvious fact here is that at least BMW acknowledges when they have a issue, extend the warranty and update the failure prone part when they have issues with there cutting edge technology while Toyota will spend millions on lawyers trying to deny obvious liability. Government has had to step in anytime Toyota has had issues......For what it’s worth.
Should I buy a 2012 x5 50i with 135 k miles on it? Engines been replace, fuel injectors, transmission
James McKinney the X5 50i xdrive is the one to stay away from. Fun, and fast as hell but that model has the most issues. The older 3.0 is bulletproof, and the 35i from 2011 and newer are also bulletproof. Older then that have HPFP problems but if that was addressed (recall preformed) they are also bulletproof. We ended up with a 2013 x5 35i xdrive and couldn’t be happier
Bmw, too much plastic...
Yes
Sure I got a Lexus SUV
Oil and gas
Super turd