Dunlop Trailmax Mission 50/50 Adventure Motorcycle Tire Ride Review
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Dunlop has been hard at work continuing to develop a wide range of tires to motorcycles. Their newest development is the Trailmax Mission true 50/50 adventure tire. This tire offers premium performance in a wide range of terrain.
Check out Wes put the the Trailmax Mission tire through it's paces, and give his thoughts on this all new tire!
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I have the rear TrailMax Mission on my 690 Enduro, this tire rocks! I have done several singletrack trails at Rampart Range Colorado. It grips surprisingly good on offroad. I can't wait until my front TKC80 wears out so I can put a TrailMax on the front. I have over 2k miles on it and the tire still looks new.
Drinking game:
Take a sip every time this project manager says: "you know"
6:20
Great job Wes and great meeting you as well!
Man. I just put on the 50/50 Dunlop 605 rear tire on my dualsport so far so good !
My buddy got a set and loves them. When my Tourance Next are shot, I’m buying a pair.
I have these tires on my Super Tenere...I was running Continental TKC 70's, their a great tire but the Dunlap seems to give me more traction off road, it's better in gravel for sure, dirt and takes a sandy beach nice... I'll continue to run these Trail Max Missions....
Thanks for the review bro, just ordered a set for my tiger 800. My bike shop owner also recommended them.
Glad we could help!
I applaud Dunlop for spending the money to make this tire , i own a 2008 ktm 990 adv and dont really care about milage , i want a tyre that can be predictable both on and off road , this tyre looks to be a good on road tyre and a pretty good off road tyre providing the blocks can clear , the 606 has been a long time favourite for many riders and given the high silica content proves to be decent on wet roads , i haven't tried them yet ill buy some and trial them and repot back , Dave Aus...
Looks like it compares to the Shinko 705. Looking forward to testing the new Dunlops.
Interesting review, but I'd like to know: Will they be the next set (that YOU pay for) on your bike? What were their thoughts about wet weather riding?
I have the rear TrailMax Mission on my Honda Africa Twin DCT 2020 and i so happy!!!
what are you running on the front?
@@archivecontentsrestoration387 TrailMax Mission.
I reached out to my tire shop for some new tires for my 2022 KLR, and he said he recommends these tires. I'm getting them installed in two weeks. Pretty excited to see how I like them. Thanks!
How did trailmax mission go on the KLR. I have the same bike and looking at these. How are they off-road and on road? Longevity?
Hi there, thanks for the review!
Would you recommend this tyre for a lighter bike like my rally-converted Husky 701 (without traction control and with "dongled" rear ABS) too?
Have you had the chance to ride it in the rain?
I put a pair on my Honda Africa twin wondering what pressure is recommended front and back
Can't wait to get it in Germany
The barely gravel road you guys road on could've been handled by an R1 with slick on it. How gome no deep sand/mud review, if this amazing 50/50 tire lol??
I'm looking for deep sand tires for my 2014 V Strom 1000
It sucks in deep sand and mud. Trust me. It's more an 80/20 tire, at best, which is why people get 15k miles or more out of a set of these tires.
Awesome, Thanks!
I'm sold. I love these tires
How is the noise on tarmac? Does it buzz a lot?
I just installed the Dunlap Trailmax Mission tires on my X300. There is a lot of reasons that these tires are what I chose (mid priced, true 50/50 tires, great grip off road, quiet and grip on road, longevity well exceeds most other tire options, etc.) It was a tough install. I was going to do it myself and even bought the tire changing hand tools. After watching many other TH-cam videos on the Trailmax Mission swap I got cold feet. I contacted a mobile tire service race shop and came over and we spent the better part of 3 hours beating the snot out of ourselves using a manual tire changer (clamps onto the rim) which helped and we had 4 hands free to get these tires on the X300 rims. The back was very difficult and without the use of 2 large "C" clamps to squeeze the beads together on one side and spoon the other onto the rim we never would have made it happen. These Trailmax Mission tires are so stiff you cannot squeeze the two beads together by hand to keep the tire in the center drop part of the rims. The manual tire changer was the No Mar brand and aided only in holding the rim and could not be used to get the beads onto the rear rim. The tire was too stiff. What we could have used was what is called a valve stem puller which I didn't know existed until after the job was done. Another thing that would have helped was heating up the tires as the day we did the swap it only got into the 60s degrees. Well - the job got done - swollen hands and fingers. The X300 has one of the smallest (narrowest) rear tires with the 130 size which appears to be a issue with how narrow the rim is and the rock solid tire with the free air beads only a couple of inches apart. The TH-cam videos that show the tires going on easier are the big bikes with much wider rims and tire sizes like 150 which gives you a lot more room to work with. So, if you're thinking about putting the Trailmax Mission tires on the X300 get help, heat up the tire to near the melting point (just kidding), buy the valve stem puller tool, use 2 large "C" clamps and don't use anything less than a mounted manual tire changer to hold the rim because two of you will be maxing out the tire levers with both hands. My video LINK: th-cam.com/video/N2P0k_iPCuc/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=trekOCLVone
So... how did the tyre behave? I also have a Versys x300 and i'm curious about how more versatile could this tyre be, compared to the regular Trailmax.
@@Al.j.Vasquez I've traveled 3300 miles so far on the Trailmax Missing tires that they are showing almost no wear. So, that claim is true (expect over 10000 miles on these tires).
They are low noise and I'm still experimenting with air pressure to find where the tires run at the 10% rule of cold to hot pressure differences. The 10% rule is where the pressure with change because of mostly side wall flex and the temperature will affect the change in pressure. On a 75-degree day the rear tire's temperature rises to about 90 degrees and that will change the pressure from 31 to about 34 psi. That is about 10%. Moving on to traction - they are very good on and off road. I understand why the Trailmax mission tires are very popular. They are hard to find as they are sold out most of the time. I have no experience with the "regular Trailmax" tires that you speak of so, I can't comment on those. I hope this helps.
I have a video on the Trailmax Misson tire installation on my Versys X300. LINK: th-cam.com/video/N2P0k_iPCuc/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=trekOCLVone
@@trekOCLVone Thanks man, with the "regular" Trailmax i guess i meant the older one, that has been replaced with this new mission tyre.
I'll definitely try to find it here.
How about noise? Are they noisy on the highway?
I have heard great things about these tires and I have a set waiting for my 790R. One thing that is important to me is these tires are made in the US. If they go 8,000 miles, then that makes them cheaper per mile than most tires out there, including the Shinko tires.
I'm going to try some on my v strom 1000 but I will be very surprised if I can get 8000 miles, I just wore out an anakee wild in 1200 miles which was disappointing to say the least. I don't see the point of having performance and not using it so I don't usually see anything like the manufacturers claims for mileage. Is it just me that has this problem, does everyone pootle about on tickover everywhere?
Do you have any idea when they are coming to the UK ????
Already commenting on longevity @ 5:44? Wow.. Just another sponsored review.
Yeah, no. This is an AMAZING tire but longevity-wise it's bullshit lol. The tread lasted me about 2000 miles on paved road (so when I finally got to the mountains, I had to change my tires!)
Who makes the Blue Nipple-Less Rims at 7:27? They look beefy AF.
I think I'm going to try these out on my 1190R. Looks very similar to the Pirelli MT 90s I run on my 1190R and 950 Adventure now. The Pirelli's are a 70/30. These look more like a 60/40 than 50/50. Just wish they had a V speed rating like the MT90s.
Thanks for watching. High speed performance and tailoring each tire and size to the bikes that it applies to was a huge part of the development on this tire. My guess that you will be pleased and surprised by the performance that is packed into these. When you do try them out give some feedback on the product page to help other riders in their decisions. Thanks for watching! - Wes
Pretty lightweight detail on the construction guys...
Cool. Hope these are an option for my GS 1250.
When are they available for purchase ?
Ian S pretty sure December 5th but dont quote me. Thats what there website said
When Dunlop makes the mission a radial tire. Then I will buy a set for my GSA
How about wet weather performance on road? Did they mention how these are expected to handle in the rain? I live in the Pacific Northwest and ride an Africa Twin, so rain handling characteristics are huge.
Wet weather grip is something that they mentioned but as you saw (or didn't see) we can't say anything as to the performance in wet weather conditions. Dunlop is saying that with the compound that was used in the construction of the tire, wet weather traction will be significant compared to the competition in 50/50 category. - Wes
@@rmatvmc very interested to see real world results. Excellent, thanks for the update!
I noticed a couple of V-Stroms in the the lineup of bikes; did you ride one of those with the new tires or get any feedback from those that did? I ride a 2018 V-Strom 650. Thanks.
Hi TJ! They did have a few models of the V-Strom available to ride but unfortunately I was only able to ride the Africa Twin Adventure Sports and the 790 Adventure R. Dunlop did mention that the V-Strom was a huge part of the testing that they did with this tire and it is the bike that they used for overall mileage testing with a whopping 8k out of the rear tire! The other editors that did ride the bike had similar comments that I gave in the video. Thanks - Wes
I had the opportunity to rip these tires on a 2019 V-strom 650 the second half of this test. I was very surprised as how great a canyon carver the 650 was on these tires. I will have a video coming out shortly which will be a vlog style video on the V-strom talking about how the tires felt on that specific bike.
Great video! I was heading to purchase a set but wanted to check the Dunlop website. It specifically said this tire is NOT compatible with 2019 KTM 790 Adventure R. Could you clarify?
I'm not sure if it's an error with their site or because the back tire may be out of stock but I know people have run these tires on the 2019 790 Adventure R and there are plenty of videos of those bikes running these tires. I'll try to find out some more information and get back to you.
@@rmatvmc I still don't see the rear as an option for the 790R. Is this a mistake? I thought the 1290 and 790R shared the same size rear tires?
Just wondering are they hard rubber compound on the crown and soft compound for cornering ?
No, this is single compound tires
The front tire is really soft and the rear is really hard. Works really good on the road sometimes the rear will slip it you're getting really spicy
Yea I don't know about this. The videos show it being used on a standard gravel/dirt road. That looks like it'll offer equal if not slightly better grip than the Anakee Adventure, which is touted as one of the best 80/20 tires.
I think the 50/50 here is just done for marketing to say, "we have the best street-oriented" 50/50 tire OR to try and help convince the guys who really don't go off road that they are "just as capable" as everyone else.
Show me that in a sand pit, wet clay, and in mud; that's where I have problems with my Anakee Adventures, not on graded gravel, dirt, or dry clay.
Agreed. The 50/50 claim is just to make the Starbucks GS crowd feel like they actually ride off-road. These tires would be worthless in the mud. I use Dunlop D606 on every dualsport I've owned because I actually ride OFF-ROAD and not just pretend at the coffee shop.
I'm looking for a tire that will get me from Deadwood, SD after the Sturgis Rally. To Prudhoe Bay, AK. Then back to NC.
In the big picture...confidence on wet pavement, without losing my hearing. And confidence from Fairbanks, to Prudhoe Bay and back. Even if it rains. Is this the tire that will fill my needs?
Thanks
You need a true knobby 50/50 tire for Prudhoe Bay, this is more an 80/20 tire.
They did a test at Chaparral Motorsports, they ran those tires hard, and they claim to be one of the best they had tested. In another of their videos, they give the results of their tests of 25 different tires (th-cam.com/video/gjtgLz1LjnE/w-d-xo.html) and these tires were one of the heaviest tires (if not the heaviest). Which suck for less powerful bikes and for the chain. I would like a comparison between these tires and the Mitas E-07.
120/70-17 front? What a pity they have no plans for Motard 17″ bikes? ... add in a 120/70-17 front to your plans Mr Dunlop. Looks like a perfect competitor to the TKC80 for motard riders who enjoy a bit of dirt/drifting on back roads with their 17″ rims.
Did they vibrate on the freeway or did you get up to freeway speeds? How do you think they'd do in the desert like Mojave or in Death Valley?. It seemed you mostly road dirt or gravel roads.
Cheers
Without getting on the freeway we did get close to triple digits and the tires were definitely smooth and quiet. I didn't feel any vibration or anything out of the ordinary. Obviously that's without knowing if it will continue throughout the life of the tires. I think that the tires would be just dandy for Death Valley or Mojave and I would think that these are one of the better options for the bigger bikes. The last time I was in Death Valley I was on a much smaller bike and the D606's. Depending on the size bike you are riding and how western you like to get on the trail, these tires are going to get the job done. Sometimes more in the hands of the capable rider! - Wes
@@rmatvmc Thanks for the quick response Wes. I plan to ride from northern California to Death Valley and then ride the BDR from southern DV to the end in Benton. Then ride home. So good on street and dirt is essential. The Karoo 3's that came on my 790R vibrated too much on pavement. Cheers
@@FanOWater Nice! Congrats on owning a 790R. A fantastic bike for 50/50 riding and would couple fantastic with a set of these tires. If you have any other questions let me know. Cheers! - Wes
Awesome but where you guys are testing that tire you could go with a bald tire and be just the same why don't you try testing it and Western New York or and Pennsylvania whether some mud and you need skilled to ride Thank you and God-bless
I'm the different guy. I want the best traction I can get on road AND off road. I could care less about longevity. That said the TKC 80's still can't be beat. Dunlop needs to get something to compete with the TKC 80's triple compound tires.
And a lot of the riders here normally lean a little more toward the off-road traction capability for the stuff that we ride. We will sacrifice longevity and some of the high speed street performance for more performance off-road. 5-8 day rides, mostly off-road, on gnarlier trails on a lighter bike are as good as it gets in my opinion. And while this tire is capable of that, there are so many different riders, bikes and riding conditions that play into tire decision. This tire definitely filled a hole in the Dunlop lineup and I think that riders will be pleased with on-road performance and pleasantly surprised with off-road performance. - Wes
I have some TKC 80s. They're good tires for off road because those tires keeps your bike straight up almost 99% of the time through tough terrain. They suck on the streets though. I can't feel the road and the curvy roads as smoothly as I use to. This will be my last set of TKC80s unless I'm going in an off road expedition.
Is not near close to a 50/50 tire
I was just advised Dunlop Australia will not be bringing these tyres here !
I wanted to try a set on my r1250GS... but need to look elsewhere.
Local dealer saying March '20 release...
Bugger, hope they change their mind, I'd like them on my R1250GSA too, plenty of different road surfaces around the greater Newcastle, Hunter Valley area.
You can ride that hard pack on a goldwing. Drop down to Lucerne youll think your on 10/90s.
Anybody know of some goggles that don’t look ridiculous with a 6d helmet?
100%!
Do you have an email I can contact you on please?
westonh@rockymountainatv.com
If it's not dual compound it's already obsolete!
To be honest I wondered about that (especially with Michelin recently releasing their 2CT Anakee Adventure) but after riding the tires I am more than satisfied with the amount of grip both on and off-road. You could definitely tell that Dunlop did their homework and due diligence with testing to find the compound that strikes the balance between grip, stability and longevity. Now, let the test of mileage begin! - Wes
Don’t believe the hype, wait for an independent review, that thing looks 70/30 street tire
Azdrtdog seems to good to be true. These reviews never really test what the actual user rides
I'd call it a 70/30 too..My E-07'S are true 50/50'S
60:40
90/10, 80/20 if your'e really generous. Compound is very hard single compound in back. Forget about mud and anything but shallow sand. Deep sand it will sink you on a heavy 800 + CC bike, certainly on a BMW 1250 GSA or Africa Twin..
"Sand"? Nah bruh - that's dirt. I'm sure these Dunlops are great - would love to see a real review.
Chaparral's review is quite that IMO
When can i buy it in Austria/ Europe ?????
Never ??
All these motorcycle journalists need to stop testing tires on dry, sandy/ rocky roads and do some damp muddy roads because this is getting ridiculous. A Honda goldwing with pilot powers could have gone down that dirt road.
probably an over priced shinko 705 in a dunlop dress! I hope I'm wrong.
I hate to be critical, but IMO this isn't 50/50 riding. I'd like to see this in actual off road conditions, not just forest roads. I used to rip through forest roads on conti trail attack tires.
I would've loved to get into a little bit gnarlier terrain as that is what I normally ride here in Utah. With the time that we spend off-road I was more than impressed with the performance and wouldn't hesitate to take these into that tougher terrain to give them more of a shakedown. I think that in the hands of a capable rider these tires are capable of the tighter trails. - Wes
Looks more like a sponsored review. This tire is not a 50/50 but a 70/30 (where it evt. may excell over TKC70, GPS, K60, Scorpion STR).
If it were 50/50, compare it to TKC80, Anakee Wild, Scorpion and MotoZ Adventure, especially in mud, sand and other low traction surfaces.
Getting traction on fast flowing gravel roads on a heavy Bike is no big deal.
Man that rider in front of you @2:30, he should not be riding on the street... following too close to the rider in front of him, have no knowledge of apex, cornering and keeps slamming on his rear brake. As far as the tire goes, I just bought them today and the front feels heavy, it feels as if you have multiple steering dampers up front.
Wow. Dunlop must of hired Honda Africa Twin marketing. So many reviews popping up on this tire. All doing a great job of sticking to the authorized talking points.... This is NOT a 50/50 tire. Might be a great tire, but not 50/50. Way to stick to the script Rocky...
This is bullshit. 8k miles on a 50/50 and it’s “only half way”. Get serious and somehow realistic.
I bought these. I will comment when I hit 8k miles on them and tell you how they are
@@jeffwelty980 I bought a set because of these claims. I still have them on the bike at 8k miles. I’d say they are good for another 3k maybe. The compound is hard and the rear tire is fairly poor off-road. The front tire is surprisingly grippy. I really think 50/50 these days is probably meant for the coffee crowd on big ADV who never really experience anything other than a gravel driveway!
No mud, no sand ... this is a joke...