Learn How To Ride Fast & Safe Around Corners on Dirt and Gravel Roads - Offroad Skills
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- Cornering at speed off-road is fun! The techniques for riding fast around low-traction corners are different than for cornering on paved roads. Professional riding instructor Dusty Wessels teaches you all you need to ride your adventure bike fast and safe on dirt and gravel roads and trails.
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Folks asking where is Bret and the channel giving really vague answers. How hard is it to just explain that he has left the channel and moved on to other things? If that's what in fact happened. I greatly enjoyed this clip too, but was totally expecting to see Bret.
mototrek.net/2020/03/04/hey-wheres-bret/
@@MOTOTREK also, brets videos had the thing where he took off his helmet and the editing made it seem like he was wearing his hat underneath the helmet. If you carry this onto your new presenter (cause it was a subtle and pretty funny joke) it would help carry on your channel culture.
Bret is in New Zealand doing talk series at the moment. Going to see him tmr in Auckland.
Brett does all kinds of cool secret squirrel government shit, he'll probably be back in a few months
He said he is parting ways with this channel, and any new videos he does will on his own channel and website.
Dusty was one of my instructors at RawHyde a few years ago and also one of the best. Good to see you again and keep the vids coming!!
Thanks Ash!
I am a huge Brett fan but I am also a huge Dusty fan as well. He did instruct my beginner off-road training too!
Thanks Pete! I am a big fan of Bret too! His videos are great!
@@west38moto53 Thanks so much to both of you. You guys are the people we need as new or aging riders to learn and gain knowledge which is critical to safe riding IMO. I know so many guys that get their license and just go (usually on a 600lb + big hog) without learning anything new!
@@west38moto53 Quick question regarding initiating the turn on gravel. You said to put weight on inside peg, but what do you do at the handle bars? I assume you dont do as on the street, where you push one side to initiate countersteering. Naturally I just press the handlebars with both hands to the side I’m turning. Thanks!
This is my second favorite channel on TH-cam. Next to my own. LOL. There is nothing better than power sliding around a corner on a 600-pound ADV Bike.
Why are you all so obsessed with where Brett is? The world is changing continously. Move with it. Nothing lasts forever, which is mostly good. Dusty here does a great jobb. Explains well, seems like a nice guy, rides well. Good job, great video! Thanks!
Thanks, Jan!
Thank you !
These vids are great. I'm (or was) a new rider, did corners slow sitting, then standing up but in line with the bike lean, ran over patch of loose more grainy gravel on normal gravel road and had shit pants moment as front washed out a bit even though regained grip soon, and immediately I reflex slammed inner foot down. Felt lucky as there was no damage, searched online, watched mototrek vids about putting foot down lightly only for your own and not bikes balance, and brets version of this gravel corners vid with outside lean and vision. Practiced it, felt really weird for months. Later on natural and way safer, (also faster) allows you to have front wash out and you still have balance while "waiting" for grip again which often is regained if you dont apply brakes. Other vids like weightless rider also helped a lot. We dont all have pro riding buddies to learn from.
Glad our videos are helping! Thx for the feedback.
Nothing teaches you to ride better than loose gravel and dirt roads. Having said that, I love that on this channel, those who show us how to ride know their job, how to explain and, my favorite, are articulate. Thanks.
Right on, Calin!
I did a long run on sand/gravel yesterday and things got very dicey. After the ride I searched TH-cam to find out how to get my testicles to descend but, voila . . . this video appeared! Very helpful - thanks.
My palms were sweaty just watching this! I don't ride on dirt often, just when I need to get from one paved road to the next and unsealed is the only option. But I always take it sooooo slow because I just don't know how far I can push it. This is such good information. I've been trying to practice standing and putting weight on the pegs, but I didn't really know how to best do that. This will be very useful next time (although I'll still go slow while I practice!)
It all clicked for me when I went on a course and realised I shouldn't be leaning down *with* the bike as I would on the road, but staying upright and leaning the bike underneath me. Suddenly made me feel safer - now I can power slide without panicking for a washout. Unfortunately I now do the same on the road and can't break the habit...
Nice, David! Offroad techniques work great on the pavement.
Yup, I do the same on the road as well. I live in a place where the road itself isn't always in the best condition and I just tend to use off-road style out of pure habit.
pretty much the same here.. feels more confident to stay upright or lean a bit out even on normal roads now
Ya wanna be able to catch the bike if it makes a sudden slip out. That said, the more the bike's leaned, the more likely to slip out. The reason we shift our weight to the inside is so we don't have to lean the bike as far for the same trajectory/velocity. But as we lean in our leverage to catch the bike decreases. It's a balancing game with no universal correct answer, it's something to experiment with to find what works best for you.
Also, Dusty is demonstrating standing technique here. I can definitely cook corners faster and powerslide with more confidence and competence when sitting. It's a little hard to describe exactly what we do because it's more of an ingrained response than a thought process. Don't be afraid to slide, front and back, it's great training for that time you lose traction with no anticipation. For all the virtues of traction, losing traction is quite fun and instructive, just tackle it judiciously. Eventually you build that ingrained response and then give no actual thought to the details of what you're doing.
@@elgringoec wow.i just posted comment with very similar.observations, there must be something to it, good point about catching bike too ... Also so true about no universal or 'true' answer to this issue, its much more complex than it looks
Thanks for the Learning bit Mototrek...I am a beginner since i bought a Honda Shadow 750 ace 1999 model last year,and had a few hours on it to learn and sit,balance and handling the bike,the last long route me and my teacher took was on gravel,learning to handle holes,pudles on the road and swinging..i was really exited how fast i got the handle the bike,so i felt secure..it put a big smile on my face that day..Shall take the MC license in the summer,a costly bit for me..Here in Norway..so when the roads here are snowfree,its out to ride around the neighborhood to learn what can happen in a slowspeed manner,use of braking,left and right,stops,turning..thats what i also learn from youtube to handle my bike the right way..
Good luck with the Shadow and getting your license, Thor!
@@MOTOTREK Thanks :) Keep up the Learning bit to be a better,safer driver..you save life's with that :)
You can't imagine how much you have added to my offroad riding skills. Thanks Dusty
This video is great for all types of riders. 👍👍
Here in parts of the midwest they still chip and oil roads out in the countryside. The roads are usually find but pea gravel seems to accumulate on tighter curves. So you can go from high traction to low traction quickly and without much warning and can really ruin your days. I will be using the tips in this video for sure, for both on and off road riding .
Right on!
I'm new to riding and find it really hard to keep my weight on the outside peg. This video is exactly what I was looking for. It answered all the questions I keep asking myself when I'm riding with great visual demonstration, it's perfect. Thanks.
Great Video, thanks Dusty for taking the time to help us become better dual sport riders. When I first started riding dirt and gravel I struggled with faster turns. I watched some videos and took some advance training. But with all of that , until I made a trip up to Wisconsin where some of the roads were similar to what Dusty was on, I was able to take a section and ride that section over and over again making changes to my form, speed, weight transfer etc, etc. My point is all the videos and training will only give you a good base to start. Until you get out there and practice, make a mistake, correct that mistake and move on, will you see the greatest improvement.
Dan Bolin great point! I have failed so many times at so many of these techniques to finally learn how they all work. Practice, practice, practice!
@@west38moto53 Its often hard to find a loose surface (gravel) place to practise that has no obstructions or other traffic. Years ago in Western Australia, we had a few abandoned WW2 gravel airstrips that were perfect for such activities. Perhaps you can search Google Maps for such places, and with some luck get one near you.
Dusty is not only an exceptionally knowledgable and great rider, but he is also a super cool guy. I look forward to riding with him at West38Moto!
Sam Jones thanks Sam!
West38Moto is the bomb! I’ve taken Dusty’s course and it’s phenomenal! Awesome to see him on this channel!
Thanks Chris!
This was very good instruction, Dusty, for those like us living surrounded by Tonto National Forest and riding dirt roads just to get to the main streets for groceries (ha!). Thanks!
Haha nice! Thanks Thomas!
Thanks for the video. The explanations were easy to grasp. However, I'll never be an advocate of speed while riding alone on gravel. But then, I've been a street rider for 50 of my 55 riding years.Enjoyed the video!
Thanks Curtis! I agree, knowing when and where to add speed is critical. Also, riding in our comfort zones is the most important thing of all.
I'm amazed by all the details that are spot on in every edit you guys put out. Amazing production, and really covering important subjects :-) Thank you, by far one of mye most viewed channel in here :-) Thank you
Thank you, Thomas!
I love it! We get a bunch of excellent presenters on this channel! Love Brett miss Brett but he will be back! Nice job Dusty
Thanks Chris! I am a big fan of Bret's too. His videos are great!
Was expecting to see Bret... but the new guy is not dissapointing! Good luck to Bret on your new endeavours and welcome Dusty!
Luis Cabrera thank you!
Perfect video. Yes, we will always compare with Bret but it because he set up the level high. This video is the same level.
You are very kind. Thank you!
Very use ful video thanks for uploading
But But But hanging the rear wheel at 45 degrees around the corner looks so cool!!!!!!!!! Great vid by the way.
Thanks! 👍
Haha, and feels cool too ;-) Thanks John!
Another excellent outcome of putting your weight to the outside, is that if you do happen to wash out, on or off-road, then the bike comes under you to some degree and you have more ability to catch the bike and re-gain control, as opposed to low siding... has saved me a few times... also great on-road technique in wet or slippery conditions.. great work Dusty thanks!
Thank you!
True about safety but dont lean out onroad at speed, it wont do you any good
Dusty’s a great guy! Ride with him, I have and he’s an awesome dude!
Thank you!
Great video Dusty I look forward to seeing more of your off road tips.
Thanks Andi!
You surely are very confident in conveying the concept by riding on a road with risks or slopes on any side of your path.
Perfect English, medular concepts accurately explained and to the point, leaves no margin for misunderstanding.
Now, let's go practice!!!
Points, taken!!!
Excellent job!!
Vision is so important these days what with all the 4X4 trucks, cars, sand rails and a dozen other off road vehicles in the deserts. Very nice to see riders in my home state AZ. share their skills. Thanks from Tim in Northern Mohave Desert. Watch out for the other guy.
Thanks Tim!
Agreed. Our cameraman David got taken out by a dune buggy on our way to film an episode in AZ last summer. mototrek.net/2019/07/23/living-legends-ted-simon-sam-manicom/
Excellent summary, Dusty. I'm relatively new to non-pavement riding, so I've been super timid on gravel. Now I've got some tips to try.
Thanks Mark!
When I was younger on dirt bikes, hauled ass, now 70 on a 650 versys, not so fast
Thanks, good advice for my ride in northern Wisconsin today on my GSA. Gotta love the power of the Beemer outta da corners. Ride on!
Way to explain it in simplicitic terms. Thanks for the information
very nicely explained, thank you ✌️
Most welcome, Jago!
MOTOTREK , 🤝 Thank you for your welcome, watching you from Slovakia. 🇸🇰
Great video and reminders! Adventure riding is just the best!
Absolutely!!
Awesome job on the video Dusty!!! Keep them coming!
Great info and so accurate! when you go out there and push yourself on a big adventure bike such as a gs1200 adv or similar, you will immediately identify all aspects covered in this video. Well done!
I Love these Videos. I watch them over and over again, and then try to practice what I see. I have really learned a Lot from these. It makes my Riding a lot safer, and a Lot more Fun. Thanks Dusty for making these.
Glad you like them!
This is EXACTLY the video I needed. Awesome :)
Perfect!
Excellent explanation. Thank you.
You are welcome!
Missing the White Rimed Reflectoids Dusty. Great job on the vid! Excellent communication skills.
Robert Glass haha thanks Rob! Glasses don’t mix well on camera 😎👊 Hope you are well my friend.
Great video Dusty.
Clear and informative.
Looks like a beautiful part of the world.
Thanks Simon! One of my favorite stretches to ride in a fantastic area of Arizona.
@@west38moto53 I was surprised (in a good way) to see you in the video in two ways. One, as I am used to seeing Brett, but also because I have seen you on Bookface linked with Tom Thompson. I met him in Mongolia in 2018, he seems like a really decent bloke.
Looking forward to seeing more videos from you.🙂
@@simonturvey1493 Thanks Simon! Tom is a very decent bloke. Good friend and great guy to ride with!
Thanks man, best explaination ever heard so far...
Thank you so much, the outer lean was really well explained and how to recover from a slide without breaks were so helpful
i just love the way you guy's express and explain things @mototrek. on my way to a bike licence eu. [hoping to take some sandy roads]
Good luck!
@@MOTOTREK thanks. It's just waiting till my health is declared as healthy to ride. Final exam and I'll be on the road.
Going fast on dirt / gravel is fun....but it’s also inherently dangerous. It’s a great skill to have and for the noob’s watching the video you certainly do a great job of explaining the nuances.
But - and perhaps you could also stress; at some point, a large percentage of people will bin it - it’s the nature of the beast. Some will do it slowly, others at speed..but the end result will be the same.
If it were me, I’d be telling folks - “OK, learn how to do this, but practice, practice and practice. Be prepared to bin the bike at some point and preferably try going doing this with friends.”
I use to live in Payson...know the whole area pretty well. I also use to ( but no longer...) ride all the time alone. Extremely experienced rider, but even experienced riders lay it over.
Now, try doing this on a nice hot day in AZ......all alone, no cellular service....110 in the shade....and you hit one of those oh so nice deep pockets of sand in a rut - down you go.
Bike catches rut, stands up, tosses you and then bee-lines it into a boulder by the side of the road, bounce of that and goes 15 feet down an embankment.
Some ego bruising and a machine who won’t start and even if it could, theres no way in hell to get it back up the bank.
....It’s 110 in the shade remember. Some of these “Roads”....never see another soul for hours....days even. I always carry a SPOT....for times like this. Just in case.
Hoofing it back to a point where one can get cell service ( if you can...) in full boots, textile pants and your now empty camel back; that’s when sliding and going quick on dirt roads becomes really REAL.
So, my point is, as good as this video is - Perhaps having some safety information in it would be good -
Things like -
Try to practice when you are with another mate; if you can’t and it’s quite rural - let people know where you are and carry something like a SPOT in case it all turns to custard.
Don’t become complacent and think because you can control some drifts, that now’s a time to take one’s eyes of the road and look at the scenery - I did once, won’t admit it so don’t ask. End result was a heart stopping deep gravel / sand / up bank / back down ride that taught me a lesson.
Know one’s environment and prepare accordingly. One camel back won’t last long if you are on foot and it’s a scorcher. Two hrs of walking and it will be done and in AZ in summer - it can be a death sentence.
So yeah, would be nice to see some “caveat’s”.
Cheers.
Educate people
I think, that would make a great video even better.
Really GREAT video Dusty!
The hardest thing for me here is to give pressure on the internal peg but keep the balance of the body at the external, becouse if I focus to the external balance I start pushing too much on the external peg and the bike start keep straight instead of cornering. I would like to understand better the functions of the knees.
Fantastic tips! I would add that you can certainly break in a turn, agreed that it should be an emergency stopping maneuver, but simply get the bars & bike straight.
I would also add that I should use reading glasses when using text to talk and realized my comment chose the word "break" instead of brake...
Awesome video bro, thanks very much for the technical info and very nice vibe. I don't care if it's Bret or you hosting the channel, I care for great advice and knowledge for responsible riders around the world, so, thanks a lot again for sharing and keep it up man! Safe rides!
Thanks for the kind words!
Thank you!
Great video Dusty! Thank you!
Excellent topic, thanks for sharing. Also, your comments below about front wheel traction were helpful. The front is always the one I worry about losing. Perhaps you could add it to a future edit to the video.
Thank you for the feedback, Dan.
Some more gravel riding videos like this would be awesome.
Very informative 👍. Thanks for making such video
Another high quality video lesson from Mototrek.
Yay! I’m doing it right. Thank you for this video 🎉
Brett has probably moved on. People do that you know. Great instruction from the new guy. Tnx!
Thanks Mithum!
The soundtrack (drums & motocyle) keep me coming back for more videos...
... the instruction is great too! 😆
3:41 I'm really happy you've said that, 'cause I was on a dirt road the other day and I couldn't remember whether or not to put pressure on the outer peg! All I knew at that moment, was; I like to hang on the outside, but also like to push the bike down on the inside. But my mind was like: yea but I 5hink the guy said; apply pressure on the outer peg... So I got confused, but did what felt right and that was putting pressure on the inner peg instead... So, thank you for confirming it to me 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Dusty, I love your instruction method. Great video. Sweet wristband!
Thanks Marty! Haha...you noticed! ;-)
Baby chickens! Great video. Your training helped me get a lot more out of my bike
Killer video Dusty! Hope to see more videos with you!
Thanks Dusty, great video enjoying the content and very useful and in all aspects of riding vision is one if the most important fundamental to get right first..
Thanks Christian!
Alright, I know I said another video was THE video I needed to see, but this is too! Love the content y'all are putting out there, I've learned a lot from this channel. Thank you!
Nice vid Dusty. Appreciate the tips.
Thanks Sam!
Great help with the big bikes!
THANK YOU FOR THIS REVIENS 👍👍👍 great info and video are Pro super shooting 👍👍👍
Good video! Thanks!
Thanks for lesson. Anyway background sound is awsome, only drums, blends perfectly with video.
You're welcome!
The difference between pressure and weight eludes me. I get that when I’m on the pegs I lean left to go left. I am putting pressure and weight there. Please shine light on the difference. Great video.
I Recognized that road, cool. I have a much smaller bike and get good results even by just moving to one butt cheek and knee in the tank to support the turning lean. I have watched flat track racers do the same body movements. It does take intention to make the shift from pavement to dirt.
Dale - we were excited to find that road! It was the perfect filming location for this demo.
Absolutely great advice!
Glad it was helpful!
@mototrek I'm kind of obsessed with your videos now. I hope you get a million subs soon!! Cheers!! :D
Wow, thanks!
Dusty ! My man , long time since the Rawhyde class when we met , and you have a shiny (reletively) new bike. Stuck with the GSA I see, and I like the blue! Super good video , and great to see you teaching riding again. Be safe out there.
Here, in my latitudes, we just blast the horn on blind corners. Louder the horn, bigger the vehicle is perceived to be.
Really liked the video. Hopefully Bret will be back. High quality content and great video editing from this channel.
Much appreciated, Ernesto!
Show off! LOL Love the videos thank you very much for sharing your insight and knowledge!
Haha, thanks Lynn. Some things are more camera worthy than practical :-)
What is the rush???????
Great video, very informative.
Thank you, Kris!
I knew that was Dusty at the beginning of the intro!
Very informative and well done video, thanks!
best soundtrek ever!
Good explanation! Not just do this, but actual reasons. Nice!
Fantastic production quality! Love the music.
Crystal clear, so easy, let's crash that now! (I meant try). As always, excellent videos, thanks.
You're welcome!
Great job I hope you do many more videos!
Thanks, Dave.
thanks, nice tips! would love to hear something about traction control and abs on gravy roads also.
Simply explained this is so much useful.
Bret is gone, long live Bret, but I'm kinda liking this new guy. Works for me! 👍
Yes. Very nicely put.
Like it.
Thanks for liking
I would love to ride that fast off-road. I do okay but doing that in 4th? Amazing!
Thanks Ricardo! However, I was not in 4th gear AT ALL on this road. I was in 2nd most of the time (which on this bike can be a good rate of speed). The corners were a bit too tight, close together and too many blind corners to be going that fast. Sure looked like it in the video though!
@@west38moto53 I've never had much opportunity to ride off-road. I went pretty hard core once in California when taking a class (and did quite well in a group of 250s with my DR650). But would love to do much more. Even when I rode through Mexico for a month on my DR650, I didn't ride off-road much. I really wanted to do that when going through Baja... Hopefully soon. At real speed. :-)
"My name is dusty and I ride lots of dirt."
Great lesson, speed with safety is usually a result of good technique.
Good explaination, many thanx from indonesia
You are welcome!
Even though there's solid advice here, there's a very crucial error at 3:58. A motorcycle doesn't turn by weighting the inside peg. Bret Tkacs from the same channel also argues it doesn't, but his claim that "body positioning" is the actual cause is also wrong. The only way to initiate a turn on a two wheel vehicle is to counter steer. This is confirmed by Keith Code, and every testing done on the subject. Even at low speeds, the turn is initiated by a slight counter steer. If you intentionally restrict a handlebar's movement to the left for example, the motorcycle will be unable to turn right, no matter how much you weight the right peg, drive your outside knee in, or move your entire body to the right. There will be some minimum influence, but not nearly enough to actually control the motorcycle.
Great tip! Thanks so much
Great advices. When I see what he's doing with a GSA, I am reassured with my GS. 👏😃
You're a God! Who else but a God can rip through fast turns on dirt on a heavy over-sized pig like the BMW GS1200? I mean, every single weekend we come across guys on the trails we ride upstate NY on those things (GS, HD PanAmerican, KTM 890 ADV, Triumph Tiger, etc.) crawling along, dumping them, and struggling to get 'em back upright. Dusgusting! Make a video on why NOT to buy bikes like that - unless you're a God!
Great work, Dusty! You are a great instructor... Good Luck Bret... Thanks Mototrek
Thanks, you too, Jorge!
Excellent information and demo... nice work Dusty
Stay great,
Steve
Nice moskomoto bags. Love their stuff