Yes, I am interested too. I personally "really need" to see how it handles deep sand wash sand and gnarly pointy and flat faced rocks... as that is what I ride in A LOT here... If it can't do those well, then in my opinion... its not really a 50/50 tire, but more of an 80% Street / 20% Dirt tire. Time will tell... Thank you for watching! - Kyle
Awesome video !!! Looking forward to see how they perform in the sand. Also maybe you have the chance to ride them in the rain a bit, because I remember the Dunlop tire which came with my Africa Twin didn't work that well on wet pavement. However, this one looks like a winner so far.
Thanks Swen! Yes... on tarmac and dirt / gravel roads this tire did exceed expectations. Now... just how good will it perform in the more difficult terrains... time will tell! Stay tuned! Thanks for your support. - Kyle
I'll give these a try on my Africa Twin. I've been a huge fan of the Shinkos (804-805) for the last couple of years on a few different bikes, but the torque on the AT shreds the rear tire in under 5000km.
Ha! Ha! Speedytrip... I have an issue with tires shredding off the back of my bikes too ;) Its a "fun" problem to have ... I too have found the 804 / 805 tires to wear out quick... but they are CHEAP price wise as compared to other similar tires. Fun! Fun! Thanks for watching. - Kyle
Excellent. Be good to see how they perform in your standard testing. I have the Anakee Adventures on my GSA at the moment and have found them to be a bit slippy on wet roads. Mind you our roads here are pretty crappy. I think I prefer the TKC 70s so far as a good all-rounder.
Very interesting feedback Triple Black Pieman, very interesting. I found the Anakee Adventure to do very well on wet asphalt, but not so much on cement. Streetability, I like your TKC70 suggestion, but did find it lacked the dirt performance I have come to enjoy from some of the more aggressive tires in the segment. Thanks for watching... and when the Mission Tire arrives I'll be a storm watcher... to see if I can find some RAIN to test in! Cheers - Kyle
Dunlop said that they played with lots of technologies and tread compounds. This current compound gave the best feel and the most even wear. If the tread blocks were not so deep, a dual compound may have been warranted, but cold / wet weather straight line traction would have suffered. Any softer on the sides, off road traction would suffer and cornering squirm would present itself. This is what they believe to be the best set-up. Thanks for watching!
I would definitely try these tires on my XT600 if they made a suitable rear size, like 120/80-18 or 4.60x18. I don't like to run mismatched tread patterns, so as it stands i'm planning to put on a set of Metzler Sahara Enduro 3's next season. I'm just really wanting a 50/50 or 60/40 front tire that won't cup badly on pavement.
Totally understand! That front tire cupping is a real problem that most manufacturers have not cured. I think you'd like them on the XT and they should have your size mid-2020 from what I have been told. Thanks for watching! - Kyle
How do these compare to the Anakee Wilds or Anakee Adventure tires? I am riding the Anakee Adventure tires on my Africa Twin Adventure Sports, and they have been really amazing on road, and surprisingly good off-road. I have done things with them that I didn't think I could do with any tires.
Thank you for your inquiry Kiran. Dunlop is marketing these tires as a true 50/50 that will compete with the Anakee Wild... BUT I "see them" being more like the Anakee Adventure tire. Hopefully the Mission tire does surprise me as did the Anakee Adventure, that would be nice! Thanks for watching. - Kyle
Hey Kyle, just subbed! You do a fantastic job in your videos - and I saw a few older vids from my V-Star days haha! Good input on the Dunlop’s for VStrom 650. Just curious, did you happen to leave traction control ON in the dirt?
Hey, thanks for the sub! Yes, my videos can be found in all genre of powersports... even SxS ;) I do miss the metric cruiser days... those were fun. I rode the Mission in all scinerios... Traction Control On / Off, ABS On / Off, Sport Mode, Off Road Mode... Rain Mode... They are a great tire all the way around. - Kyle
This Mission tire is as quiet and as smooth as a street tire. I have only put 2k miles on it though... I am unsure if it will get noisier as time goes on... 5k on a K60 Scout and the noise it nearly unbearable without earplugs! - Kyle
@kylebradshaw can you share the location of the trail at 8:41 kyle? Im in LA nsd am having a hard time finding a place to try these tires on my ktm 990 ADV
TheGammerguy For sure... search Marshall Peak in San Bernardino and it will give you three roads to it... those are the roads I’m riding at 8:41. Come in out and I’ll take you for a tour.
@@manybikes Thank you Kyle i appreciate the quick reply im new to LA so im always trying to find and area to go when its not fire season which seems like always!
@@manybikes (watched the video) nice review and comments on the bike, but (unless I missed it) you didn't actually say if you would choose this tire for the VStrom 650. I'm looking at these tires and also the MotoZ GPS, and welcome your feedback !! Thanks 🙂
The Vstrom is 80/20 bike or something like 70/30 top...it is like "mule" for loading with official 3 x10kg at back. How many bikes in his class have similar capabilities? It is wrong to compare it with KTM 790 or CRF1000... Also try to put OFF the traction control and will see the diference.
Thanks for your comments. I was not comparing the V-strom to the "other adv bikes" but was giving my feeback as to how the tires felt on each of the different bikes. Thanks for watching! - Kyle
It’s the heaviest of ADV tires, but you won’t notice it much on the 790. FYI the lightest of all ADV tires is the TKC80 or run the TKC70 Rocks in the rear for light... or the Bridgestone AX41.
@@manybikes i was thining about the Mitas E07 for every day riding, ocasional hard packed off road, like you have on this video, and 2 up traveling, i have a 790 adv s with prepared susps... thank you for the VERY fast answer
Awesome Kyle as usual. Thank you 😊. I’m still very keen to try them on my r1250gs. Do you know how they would compare to the Michelin Anakee Adventures. I’m assuming the new Dunlop would have less pavement grip but more off road ability. Do you think it’s a true 50/50 ? Cheers Ian
I really think this tire will be a great R1250GS tire... As for a true 50/50 rating, I am interested too and the jury is still out. I personally "really need" to see how it handles deep sand wash sand and gnarly pointy and flat faced rocks... as that is what I ride in A LOT here... If it can't do those well, then in my opinion... its not really a 50/50 tire, but more of an 80% Street / 20% Dirt tire. Time will tell... Thank you for watching! - Kyle
After having put 3k miles on these tires - YES they are a True 50/50 tire. I will see about 6k out of them and most riders will see about 8k mixed street / dirt. They are equal to the Anakee Adventure on the pavement (except in the wet) and perform like the Anakee Wild off-road. In the wet, the lack of Silica and the single compound work against it... but they still do a great job. When the AX41's on my personal bike wear out (love those too... but they last like 3k miles only) I will mount up the Mission Tires for a long term review. I think you will love the Mission tire on your R1250GS. Thanks for watching! - Kyle
Kyle Bradshaw ...So after your thorough review and comments and taking into consideration that these tires are below MICHELIN ANAKEE ADVENTURE on pavement because of their capabilities on wet and, also considering that they behave pretty much like the ANAKEE WILD off-road, would you say that the CONTINENTAL TKC-70 ROCKS, with the Silica compound and the new pattern for off-road, can be the best of both worlds and overall superior than DUNLOP’s and MICHELIN’s? Thanks for your insight!
Looks like the marketing men have earned their pay cheque going by the number of people who are going to try them & social media posts, time will tell if they are any good or just marketing hype
Exactly! Time will tell. I was disappointed 2 fold... 1, that I was not able to mount up a set on my 1190 so I could punish them and "really test them." and 2ndly... that our group rides were very mild off-road. Nothing really challenging. Now way to test a 50% dirt rating on a flat fire road... I need some obstacles! I am looking forward to getting my set that I can put to the grind here in another week or so... Stay tuned! Thanks for watching! - Kyle
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Great Kyle. Looking forward to the full test video of the tyres. Very interested!
Yes, I am interested too. I personally "really need" to see how it handles deep sand wash sand and gnarly pointy and flat faced rocks... as that is what I ride in A LOT here... If it can't do those well, then in my opinion... its not really a 50/50 tire, but more of an 80% Street / 20% Dirt tire. Time will tell... Thank you for watching! - Kyle
Awesome video !!! Looking forward to see how they perform in the sand. Also maybe you have the chance to ride them in the rain a bit, because I remember the Dunlop tire which came with my Africa Twin didn't work that well on wet pavement. However, this one looks like a winner so far.
Thanks Swen! Yes... on tarmac and dirt / gravel roads this tire did exceed expectations. Now... just how good will it perform in the more difficult terrains... time will tell! Stay tuned! Thanks for your support. - Kyle
I'll give these a try on my Africa Twin. I've been a huge fan of the Shinkos (804-805) for the last couple of years on a few different bikes, but the torque on the AT shreds the rear tire in under 5000km.
Ha! Ha! Speedytrip... I have an issue with tires shredding off the back of my bikes too ;) Its a "fun" problem to have ... I too have found the 804 / 805 tires to wear out quick... but they are CHEAP price wise as compared to other similar tires. Fun! Fun! Thanks for watching. - Kyle
I think you will be very impressed!
Great job Kyle 👍
Thanks!
Excellent. Be good to see how they perform in your standard testing. I have the Anakee Adventures on my GSA at the moment and have found them to be a bit slippy on wet roads. Mind you our roads here are pretty crappy. I think I prefer the TKC 70s so far as a good all-rounder.
Very interesting feedback Triple Black Pieman, very interesting. I found the Anakee Adventure to do very well on wet asphalt, but not so much on cement. Streetability, I like your TKC70 suggestion, but did find it lacked the dirt performance I have come to enjoy from some of the more aggressive tires in the segment. Thanks for watching... and when the Mission Tire arrives I'll be a storm watcher... to see if I can find some RAIN to test in! Cheers - Kyle
Great vid Kyle, thank's for information. I will buy a set as soon as they become available around here.
Thanks for watching!
You will be impressed! They work well!
Thank ya
Be looking for the 10,,000 mile report
Yeah, me too! Thanks for watching!
Those new Dunlop 50/50 tires seem awesome, but, im curious: why no double compound ?
Dunlop said that they played with lots of technologies and tread compounds. This current compound gave the best feel and the most even wear. If the tread blocks were not so deep, a dual compound may have been warranted, but cold / wet weather straight line traction would have suffered. Any softer on the sides, off road traction would suffer and cornering squirm would present itself. This is what they believe to be the best set-up. Thanks for watching!
Kyle Bradshaw : Thanks for explaining; its make sense; best regards.
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I would definitely try these tires on my XT600 if they made a suitable rear size, like 120/80-18 or 4.60x18. I don't like to run mismatched tread patterns, so as it stands i'm planning to put on a set of Metzler Sahara Enduro 3's next season. I'm just really wanting a 50/50 or 60/40 front tire that won't cup badly on pavement.
Totally understand! That front tire cupping is a real problem that most manufacturers have not cured. I think you'd like them on the XT and they should have your size mid-2020 from what I have been told. Thanks for watching! - Kyle
GREAT INFO AND SHOOTING 👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks for watching!!!
How do these compare to the Anakee Wilds or Anakee Adventure tires?
I am riding the Anakee Adventure tires on my Africa Twin Adventure Sports, and they have been really amazing on road, and surprisingly good off-road. I have done things with them that I didn't think I could do with any tires.
Thank you for your inquiry Kiran. Dunlop is marketing these tires as a true 50/50 that will compete with the Anakee Wild... BUT I "see them" being more like the Anakee Adventure tire. Hopefully the Mission tire does surprise me as did the Anakee Adventure, that would be nice! Thanks for watching. - Kyle
Hey Kyle, just subbed! You do a fantastic job in your videos - and I saw a few older vids from my V-Star days haha! Good input on the Dunlop’s for VStrom 650. Just curious, did you happen to leave traction control ON in the dirt?
Hey, thanks for the sub! Yes, my videos can be found in all genre of powersports... even SxS ;) I do miss the metric cruiser days... those were fun. I rode the Mission in all scinerios... Traction Control On / Off, ABS On / Off, Sport Mode, Off Road Mode... Rain Mode... They are a great tire all the way around. - Kyle
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Mark Jacobs nice! I think you’ll be surprised too...
How is the road noise, compared to street tires?
This Mission tire is as quiet and as smooth as a street tire. I have only put 2k miles on it though... I am unsure if it will get noisier as time goes on... 5k on a K60 Scout and the noise it nearly unbearable without earplugs! - Kyle
@@manybikes I hope you have a comission or smth with Dunlop, cuz you ll be responsible for a lot of sales 👍
Can you tell me what was the preasure of your Dunlop tyres?
Dunlop recommends they tire to be run at full pressures. I was running 35ish on the street and 25 to 30psi off road depending on the terrain.
@kylebradshaw can you share the location of the trail at 8:41 kyle? Im in LA nsd am having a hard time finding a place to try these tires on my ktm 990 ADV
TheGammerguy For sure... search Marshall Peak in San Bernardino and it will give you three roads to it... those are the roads I’m riding at 8:41. Come in out and I’ll take you for a tour.
@@manybikes Thank you Kyle i appreciate the quick reply im new to LA so im always trying to find and area to go when its not fire season which seems like always!
So if you had a vstrom 650 would you get this tyre??
I have ridden it on a Vstrom 650 at the press launch actually. Here it is at 10:55 th-cam.com/video/dTMhaSdZ9Ks/w-d-xo.html
@@manybikes (watched the video) nice review and comments on the bike, but (unless I missed it) you didn't actually say if you would choose this tire for the VStrom 650. I'm looking at these tires and also the MotoZ GPS, and welcome your feedback !! Thanks 🙂
The Vstrom is 80/20 bike or something like 70/30 top...it is like "mule" for loading with official 3 x10kg at back. How many bikes in his class have similar capabilities? It is wrong to compare it with KTM 790 or CRF1000... Also try to put OFF the traction control and will see the diference.
Thanks for your comments. I was not comparing the V-strom to the "other adv bikes" but was giving my feeback as to how the tires felt on each of the different bikes. Thanks for watching! - Kyle
Ha! Ha!
Are they noisy on the highway?
Henry Wojtkiewicz not at all. Zero noise.
what about the weight of the tyre on the 790?... i'm worried about too much unsprung weight...
It’s the heaviest of ADV tires, but you won’t notice it much on the 790. FYI the lightest of all ADV tires is the TKC80 or run the TKC70 Rocks in the rear for light... or the Bridgestone AX41.
@@manybikes i was thining about the Mitas E07 for every day riding, ocasional hard packed off road, like you have on this video, and 2 up traveling, i have a 790 adv s with prepared susps... thank you for the VERY fast answer
Sweet! The E07 is a super popular tire and is loved by many. It should treat you well for your adventures.
@@manybikes thank you kyle, you are one of the best
Well, thanks for your support.
Awesome Kyle as usual. Thank you 😊.
I’m still very keen to try them on my r1250gs.
Do you know how they would compare to the Michelin Anakee Adventures. I’m assuming the new Dunlop would have less pavement grip but more off road ability. Do you think it’s a true 50/50 ? Cheers Ian
I really think this tire will be a great R1250GS tire... As for a true 50/50 rating, I am interested too and the jury is still out. I personally "really need" to see how it handles deep sand wash sand and gnarly pointy and flat faced rocks... as that is what I ride in A LOT here... If it can't do those well, then in my opinion... its not really a 50/50 tire, but more of an 80% Street / 20% Dirt tire. Time will tell... Thank you for watching! - Kyle
After having put 3k miles on these tires - YES they are a True 50/50 tire. I will see about 6k out of them and most riders will see about 8k mixed street / dirt. They are equal to the Anakee Adventure on the pavement (except in the wet) and perform like the Anakee Wild off-road. In the wet, the lack of Silica and the single compound work against it... but they still do a great job. When the AX41's on my personal bike wear out (love those too... but they last like 3k miles only) I will mount up the Mission Tires for a long term review. I think you will love the Mission tire on your R1250GS. Thanks for watching! - Kyle
Kyle Bradshaw ...So after your thorough review and comments and taking into consideration that these tires are below MICHELIN ANAKEE ADVENTURE on pavement because of their capabilities on wet and, also considering that they behave pretty much like the ANAKEE WILD off-road, would you say that the CONTINENTAL TKC-70 ROCKS, with the Silica compound and the new pattern for off-road, can be the best of both worlds and overall superior than DUNLOP’s and MICHELIN’s? Thanks for your insight!
How about tire noise ?
Zero Noise. Zero Vibration. It really feels like a "street tire" that can go on the dirt.
Kinda does... doesn't it?
Looks like the marketing men have earned their pay cheque going by the number of people who are going to try them & social media posts, time will tell if they are any good or just marketing hype
Exactly! Time will tell. I was disappointed 2 fold... 1, that I was not able to mount up a set on my 1190 so I could punish them and "really test them." and 2ndly... that our group rides were very mild off-road. Nothing really challenging. Now way to test a 50% dirt rating on a flat fire road... I need some obstacles! I am looking forward to getting my set that I can put to the grind here in another week or so... Stay tuned! Thanks for watching! - Kyle
Meh I'll look for an actual consumer vid.
Here it is... th-cam.com/video/TjI015QyObE/w-d-xo.html