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Hello, I have a specific question: Best boards i can chose from are: MSI MAG X670E Tomahawk WIFI MSI PRO X870-P WIFI Which would you recommend, the PRO X870 is even 30€ cheaper for me. Thanks for your help!
If I look at the AM5 motherboards, I cry and I remember buying in April 2019 my current ASRock B450 HDV 4.0 for $59.99. During next week I will replace my Ryzen 2 2200G; 16GB (3000MHz) with a Ryzen 5 5600GT; 32GB (3200MHz) and I intend to keep the motherboard at least till 2030. I'm a collector! I have all Windows releases from 1.04 (1987) to 11 Pro (now) in a VM and the same is true for all Ubuntu LTS Releases from 6.06 LTS to 24.04 LTS plus 4.10 (the first); 5.04 (my first) and 24.10 the 20 years remembrance version :) :).
I picked up the same (16 instead of 32gb) for my living room PC, 5600GT till RX 6600 arrives. It was great value, gets you on the AM4 platform. My main PC has AM5 Motherboard, 7600x for future potential upgrades, but the difference in cost to performance between the two pcs will be like 3 times the cost, twice the performance (if even!). Love a good budget build.
@ thats what im saying. If im paying 200$ or more on motherboard it should have all the simple necessities like wifi and blue tooth and IO shield pre installed.
OMG, just what I needed for my nephew's college pc build. I was looking for a MB for the upcoming 9950x3d at around $300 and this video came just in time. Thanks, Jason ! The timing is impeccable.
Thank you so much for this video! I've been nonstop looking at motherboards for days now not knowing what to choose. I ended up getting a bundle on Newegg Canada with a 7600x and Asus TUF B650 plus WiFi for $510 after shipping, duties and taxes. I was expecting to spend around $600 so that's pretty hype! I'll be throwing that extra money in the savings jar for a 5000 series GPU.
I was going with the Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX V2 for my build, but then the Gigabyte X870 Gaming Wifi6 came on sale and they are now the same price, so I'm probably going with the X870 unless anyone can give me good reasons not to. :D Thanks for the video! All your videos have been really helpful picking out parts for my build. Will be the first new PC I get since 2016 so I should see some good improved performance.
Did you end up getting this board? If so, how was set up and how are you liking it? I got the Gigabyte B650 Eagle Ax and am sending it back for another mobo since it’s faulty.
@@eyeayeinn178 yeah Gigabyte sounds like it’s got some bad luck more often than not from a lot of reviews and feedback I’ve read on their recent mobos.
Just bought 9800x3d with X870e Aurous Elite wifi 7, absolutely brilliant with the auto tuning on that x3d chip. Also came with compatible bios out of the box, still updated it for the x3d OC features
Bios f3f? I bought mine based off reviews like kitguru that I saw was using f3e but it's been pulled from the support page. Only f3f and f3a. I uploaded a short 12sec video on my page about f3f
I've built two systems with the asrock B650 pro rs wifi. One with a 7600 and the other wit a 7800x3d. Love that board. Just solid and works well. Never had an issue. Used 32 GB of gskill flare f5 at 6000 and CL30 on both that cost less than 100 bucks. No problems with expo and works great.
I got myself these beasties in my new build! Motherboard - Asrock B650E Taichi Lite which comes with 24+2+1 VRMs and ALC4082 audio codec for only $199.99 super happy! CPU - ryzen 7 9800x3d GPU - AMD rx 7900xtx taichi OC
In a “best” video I am surprised the nova phantom x870e and the asrock taichi x870e. Yea they are pricey, but not crazy like asus. But the design of the no compromise slots where they aren’t stealing bandwidth from the gpu is amazing!
@ maybe you need to up the pazaz. Add special effects to the videos. Maybe some quirky one liners to keep people attention till the end of the video. Just throwing out some ideas. Hopefully you get to one mill soon !😂🥳🥳
Who else coming back to watch Jason's videos even after having built a beefy gaming PC? Your videos are great as a refresher and learning new things. We appreciate ya Jason!
I really appreciate these videos! It's great that you break down all the terms on every video. I know you've probably said many of these things a thousand times but there's always new people coming in. and there's so much to learn that it takes a few times to really understand all these different numbers. Great job making content that's approachable to everyone, it's a rare talent!
MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk WiFi $280 for a Ryzen 9900x, when building a new system I'd much rather spend a couple more dollars and get latest gen and hopefully get at least 5 years out of it.
Solid recommends Jason. Didn't see this before the deep discounts were pretty much gone. Something that might have been worth including, in the chipset discussion, is how the boards with dual promontory chips (so, ONLY X870E, X670E, and X670) have the better PCIe slot, M.2 socket, and Rear USB port options versus the single chip boards. Don't think the upcoming B850's will have dual, but we'll see. Oh and completely agree, the A620 and upcoming B840 are really garbage worth avoiding. I managed to snag a TUF X670E before the sales ended, to "match" my TUF 4080 Super. Minor points on the two ASUS X670E boards recommended. Yeah, they are MOSTLY "the same", but there ARE minor differences that might matter to some. The TUF has 3x ARGB headers versus 2x on the PRIME, the PRIME has a TPM header (TUF doesn't), Clear CMOS button (versus just header on the TUF), and the PRIME supports CPU Over Voltage (via jumper) that the TUF doesn't. Also, for the 3.2 Gen 1 (5 Mbps) rear ports the PRIME has 4xA and 1xC, while the TUF is 5xA.
Yes it's just the Tomahawk except with one less M.2 slot and less PCIE slots, and 2 less USB 2.0 ports on the rear IO. So basically yes. If you want a more premium mATX go for it.
Just built a new system with the 9800x3d. I initially ordered a MSI X670E Tomhawk but then sent it back and got the MSI X870 Tomahawk instead for 30$ more. Several reasons why x870 VS x670e :1) the x870 is newer, possibly longer term support ; 2) more usb ports total; 3) pci quick release for GPU - this alone is worth 30usd if you've ever been really frustrated to get the old gpu out of there; 4) usb 4 ; 5) wifi 7; 6) newer audio I would say to people looking at getting a new motherboard sure maybe there is no one key feature in x870 that alone justifies it over a x670 or similar but as a whole it could make all the difference.
25:07 Small note: if I'm not mistaken, the b650e version of this Mobo has pcie 5.0 for both the gpu and for the m.2 SSD compared to the regular b650, which only has pcie 4.0 for the gpu and SSD slot. Not really a huge thing cuz pcie 5.0 has yet to be a standard, but worth mentioning in case you wanna future proof
Absolutely perfect timing on this video! Would a gigabyte x870 aorus elite wifi 7 be an overkill/inappropriate matchup for an RTX 3090 and a 7800x3d or 9800x3d? - Is the x870 comparable to b650e - Does either b650e/x670e make more sense in my use case as mostly game and light productivity (NO Content Creation) work?
I am a complete and total lamen In regards to building a computer and I’ve decided to build my first one. Your video has single-handedly been the most comprehensive and clear that I have ran across. (And I have seen quite a handful of hours of videos.) Thank you so much for what you do! Subscribe!!
Black Friday gave us some crazy deals. I managed to get the MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk Wifi bundled with the Ryzen 5 7600X for $465 CAD from NewEgg. Been pretty indecisive with the motherboard but think I'll be quite satisfied with that motherboard, especially for the price.
This was so helpful, thank you. I want a new computer for content creation (video, animation) and no other guides explained the difference in B vs X boards in a way I could understand, as I am a total newbie. Your guide made it clear as day.
Just picked up a Ryzen 9 9900x and a MSI B650m for a micro atx "console" build, gonna run a intel Arc a770 for a while, it was $300 and seems to be pretty solid nowadays.
I will still be rocking my ASRock B650 Steel Legend. I got it at launch for $ 178. It is actually a 650E as it supports Pcle 5,Insane Vrams with high-end audio with 10 connectivity slots,you can not find this motherboard anywhere now,not in the U.S. anyway
@markoselendic3690 send me that link. The cheapest I have been able to get the B650E for is $239,that is $60 more that I paid for the B650,I would get the Tiachi or Riptide for that price increase
As an engineer working on servers, the desktop cpu/chipset world is mostly foreign to me, but I try to build every other pc to keep somewhat in touch. Thanks a ton for this jam packed video that covered the points I needed to catch up quickly, as well as being digestible by my 12 year old son.
Great information!! Just picked up an X870e crosshair hero i found for a good discount and a 9800x3d. Looking forward to building up my new and first amd pc in a hyte y70 touch case and a rog strix 4080 super oc gpu! I had bought a 14900k when it first csme out but hadn't used it, then all the intel issues started happening. I didn't trust it so i sold it and my Z690E gaming wifi mb and made the amd switch!!
One potential suggestion for the future is mentioning the bios software of each board and how capable it is? For instance, I love the look of NZXT motherboards, but their BIOS is the most basic and unintuitive from the other manufacturers
I currently have MSI suprim X4090 with 9800x3d I play competitive mainly what board would you recommend for best performance and thank you for your advice to us
I got the Asrock B650E PG-ITX WIFI (Its X870 motherboard in a small build) with PCIE 5.0 Nvme and PCIE 5.0 x16 for next gen card. What I like about the motherboard is the software for Intel Killer Wifi. You can disable many Windows functions via Game Fast option to reduce lag in games and prevent Windows from updating especially Windows defender and update.
Thank you so much for making such a video. I was just looking for a similar Video on youtube and your video poped up. Really Thank you and God Bless you
Just got an Asus Prime X870-P Wifi AM5. Hope this fits in a med size case. Also got the new Ryzen 9800x3d. Hope everything is going to work out. This will be my first PC build.
@@Not_Deb The Montech Sky Two GX has good reviews and if in the US the White Version is $79. Just note it doesn't come with a rear fan so you'll need to buy one.
What do you thiunk about ASUS TUF Gaming B550-PLUS WiFi II motherboard? Is it good for 5 5600x? And if not is there any good mid range 150$ motherboards maybe for upgrade too?
Between this channel and gamersnexus i can always find the info i need. You are doing a phenomenal job, keep it up! (and you have saved me and my family SO much on windows and office keys! 🍻)
Good morning Jason crew and kitties! Great content as usual! it’s funny, I’m patrolling around and I’m putting my computer together with with your suggestions in my mind… come on 2025 video cards!! ( maybe)🤔
Hey, thanks for the video! I was wondering if you could do a review of some x870e motherboards. I'm trying to decide between the x870e Asus ROG lineup and the x670e TUF. Which one do you think is the better buy? Im building for productivity work not gaming
Daughter said she wanted a new computer for Xmas so we bit the bullet and ordered a B650E AORUS STEALTH ICE which has reverse connectors. What are you thoughts on the reverse connector Mobo's Jason?
Thanks for your cpu video last week. I was able to get a good deal on 9600x, Asus B650E-F & ram. Thanks to Newegg combo deal I got $15 each off the ram and cpu. Also got $60 off the motherboard plus the free 1tb ssd. Unfortunately it is no longer available and the board gone up in price.
Got a newegg combo deal that included a x870 motherboard. Will I need a gen 5.0 riser cable to go to my 3080ti with a water coolong block, or will the 4.0 cable still work? I couldn't use the original gen 3.0 cable i purchased without issues on a x570 board, and wanted to have all the parts ready to go before placing everything back in the case. Please and thank you
Hi all, I am thinking about buying Asrock B650 Steel Legend Wifi or Asrock B650E Steel Legend Wifi (right now they are at same price somehow). Which category this Motherboard fit (mid or premium)? And do you think one of them is objectively better than the other? Thank You in advance
I forgot to add that the goal is to keep room for possible future upgrades in terms of CPU (right now it will be Ryzen 7 7500F) and GPU (probably a 4070S). Other options for Motherboard are really welcome. Thanks
I've watched Hardware Unboxed's review of the Steel Legend WiFi and the Aorus Elite AX V2, and they both perform as well as, or even better than, the premium B650 boards. However, the Steel Legend has very limited stock, so if it's available in your area, don't hesitate to grab it. Don't buy the B650E Steel Legend the B650 somehow is better which is really strange.
@@PCBuilderChannel Why the tomohawk over the Steel Legend? Seen many advice Steel Legend over the Tomohawk? The Steel Legend is in stock where i live and excatly the same price as the Tomohawk
So, I’m looking to upgrade my son’s pc for Christmas. Going with the Ryzen 5 5600x and had been racking my brain on what MB & gpu to pair with it. What do you know, stumbled across this informational video. Thanks man!
@ Probably a wild question. But would an Asus Tuf b550 with a 3060 gpu be a good fit for a teenager ? Just wanted to get a more experienced input is all
Hi Jason, Love from Bangladesh. I have been building an AM5 gaming Pc for myself for a while now, buying parts one by one. You have been very helpful in this whole process, especially since I am no expert, I have only mid level knowledge in building a PC. I have a question I hope you'll answer. I have bought Team T-force delta 32GB DDR5 CL30 RAMs (they come in 16gb x 2 dimms in one box), and I have ordered a 9800x3D. I want to pair it up with a good Motherboard that has good VRMs, and provides me the options to add another T-force Delta 32GB RAMs later. (16gb x 2 dimms in one box, same as before). Considering this and the pricing in Bangladesh, I decided the MSI B650 Tomahawk Wifi would be best for my purpose. But a friend of mine said that I can get the MSI X670E Tomahawk board by adding only 30$. It has better VRMs and more ports and whatnot. I have the budget to buy that, no problem. (There's a great offer going on for this board here in Bangladesh, I am very intrigued) But per my meager research, I found someone pointing out that I will have to use Two 32GB single dimms for the X670E board, I can't use those 16GB X 2 dimms when I upgrade the RAMs. Also X670E Tomahawk has ALC 1200 audio compared to ALC 4080 of the B650 Tomahawk's. I'm sorry for such a lengthy question, I know you must be a busy man. But It would really help me if you told me which board I should buy. I will not overclock my PC, just some gaming and casual Photoshop. It is very hard to get good advice for building a PC here in Bangladesh. Also these are the only decent deals for a B650 and X670E boards respectively here in my place, so my hands are essentially tied between these 2 boards. Thanks so much for all the help with your videos, and I hope you'll find the time to answer this query of mine.
whats the final answer for the b650 steel legend wifi, does it have pcie 5.0 and they misspelled the manual? or does it not have it and every store just put it on their page because of miscommunication?
So we see the features here...but what about performance? Thats just as important and it seems it was skipped over. Ive done quite a bit of studying to find a good motherboard for my new ryzen 5 7600x3d, and the ASRock was the best for performance...while the MSI Mag Tomahawk, the premium AM5 you suggest, is only average performance.
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What Ryzen CPU and Motherboard are you considering? Did you build or upgrade recently? Tell your story in a new comment below!
Early bird 😊
Hello, I have a specific question:
Best boards i can chose from are:
MSI MAG X670E Tomahawk WIFI
MSI PRO X870-P WIFI
Which would you recommend, the PRO X870 is even 30€ cheaper for me.
Thanks for your help!
9800x3d i was looking at the b650 tomahawk and x670 tomahawk
@@dropment5408 ye the tomahawks are great, but i can get the X870 for cheaper, so i wonder if i should do that. Also for a 9800X3D + 4080super.
I wish I could've got my GIGABYTE B650 Eagle for $139.00 Cdn. !!!
i have the X570 from 4 years ago and it is starting to show it's age but still perfectly capable for most games
I splurged and got an ASRock x870e Nova WiFi and a 9800X3D. Couldn't be happier with the features and performance.
Me checking newegg and microcenter everyday But always sold out. I heard from every single person it's an amazing value board
@@mucerpI just picked up my 9800x3d at microcenter. They restocked yesterday.
What GPU are you running with it?
@@mucerp same here, I refresh r/buildapcsales like twice an hour and also put it on my hotstock lmao
@@StarFox_SNES "4060 ti"
If I look at the AM5 motherboards, I cry and I remember buying in April 2019 my current ASRock B450 HDV 4.0 for $59.99. During next week I will replace my Ryzen 2 2200G; 16GB (3000MHz) with a Ryzen 5 5600GT; 32GB (3200MHz) and I intend to keep the motherboard at least till 2030.
I'm a collector! I have all Windows releases from 1.04 (1987) to 11 Pro (now) in a VM and the same is true for all Ubuntu LTS Releases from 6.06 LTS to 24.04 LTS plus 4.10 (the first); 5.04 (my first) and 24.10 the 20 years remembrance version :) :).
I picked up the same (16 instead of 32gb) for my living room PC, 5600GT till RX 6600 arrives. It was great value, gets you on the AM4 platform. My main PC has AM5 Motherboard, 7600x for future potential upgrades, but the difference in cost to performance between the two pcs will be like 3 times the cost, twice the performance (if even!). Love a good budget build.
I needed this video right now for BF deals thanks!
That was the hope!! So glad the timing was good
Why arent all motherboards come with bluetooth and wifi integrated ? Its 2024 not 1990 🤦♂️
I'm replacing a 2010 PC, I couldn't believe they still don't have WiFi on all. I went with X870 Tomahawk Wifi
@ thats what im saying. If im paying 200$ or more on motherboard it should have all the simple necessities like wifi and blue tooth and IO shield pre installed.
I wanted a board without either, couldn’t find any that support am5 without both, as well as the bigger price tag that comes with
@TheLebronOfCooking go look for a 5-year-old motherboard then
@@NeverSurrenderMAGA am5 5 years ago? Stupid
OMG, just what I needed for my nephew's college pc build. I was looking for a MB for the upcoming 9950x3d at around $300 and this video came just in time. Thanks, Jason ! The timing is impeccable.
That's so great to hear! We really try with our timing and figured this would be useful for folks. So happy to help!
What did you decide on?
@@TheGandsta1 Momentarily on ASUS PRIME X670E PRO WIFI, but it's not discounted here in Eastern Europe, it's a little over $300
@@blindguardian8599 Thank you, you helped me get the X670E Tuff
Perfect timing!!! Pricing out a cheap upgrade for my nephew!
You bet! Glad to help out!
Got the X870e Nova Wifi before price hike and the rebates to make it under 300 and it's 🔥🔥🔥
Nice!!
Thank you so much for this video!
I've been nonstop looking at motherboards for days now not knowing what to choose.
I ended up getting a bundle on Newegg Canada with a 7600x and Asus TUF B650 plus WiFi for $510 after shipping, duties and taxes.
I was expecting to spend around $600 so that's pretty hype!
I'll be throwing that extra money in the savings jar for a 5000 series GPU.
I was going with the Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX V2 for my build, but then the Gigabyte X870 Gaming Wifi6 came on sale and they are now the same price, so I'm probably going with the X870 unless anyone can give me good reasons not to. :D
Thanks for the video! All your videos have been really helpful picking out parts for my build. Will be the first new PC I get since 2016 so I should see some good improved performance.
Did you end up getting this board? If so, how was set up and how are you liking it? I got the Gigabyte B650 Eagle Ax and am sending it back for another mobo since it’s faulty.
On my second B650 Aorus Elite Ax, first was faulty and the second looks to be as well. I'd avoid the gigabyte bios altogether
@@eyeayeinn178 yeah Gigabyte sounds like it’s got some bad luck more often than not from a lot of reviews and feedback I’ve read on their recent mobos.
Just bought 9800x3d with X870e Aurous Elite wifi 7, absolutely brilliant with the auto tuning on that x3d chip. Also came with compatible bios out of the box, still updated it for the x3d OC features
I just bought that too with the free ram from newegg. The bios is unusable and super lag for me. Do you not have the same issue?
@angsongkiu905 nah, mines working great, i did the trident neo ram, 7200 cl34
Bios f3f? I bought mine based off reviews like kitguru that I saw was using f3e but it's been pulled from the support page. Only f3f and f3a. I uploaded a short 12sec video on my page about f3f
Yea, i went to f3f, came with f2 on the board.
Nice!
I've built two systems with the asrock B650 pro rs wifi. One with a 7600 and the other wit a 7800x3d. Love that board. Just solid and works well. Never had an issue. Used 32 GB of gskill flare f5 at 6000 and CL30 on both that cost less than 100 bucks. No problems with expo and works great.
I got myself these beasties in my new build!
Motherboard - Asrock B650E Taichi Lite which comes with 24+2+1 VRMs and ALC4082 audio codec for only $199.99 super happy!
CPU - ryzen 7 9800x3d
GPU - AMD rx 7900xtx taichi OC
Where did u buy taichi lite i thought they were out of stock everywhere
Connectivity? Rog Crosshair X870E - 40G USB DP - Display Port? Is that much data needed for video, or useful for something else?
In a “best” video I am surprised the nova phantom x870e and the asrock taichi x870e. Yea they are pricey, but not crazy like asus. But the design of the no compromise slots where they aren’t stealing bandwidth from the gpu is amazing!
Stop buying bad Motherboards .
Stop doing it people! (;
🗣️🗣️🗣️
@abhilashyadav2274 please suggest some for ryzen 9000 and 7000 series processors of AMD motherboards ?
Bout to buy an Asrock B450M HDV R4.0 for $60. Don't tell me what to do!
That’s why i’m here :(
Every time I watch one of your videos I’m flabbergasted that you don’t have over 1 million subs yet.
Appreciate that! Thanks for watching
@ maybe you need to up the pazaz. Add special effects to the videos. Maybe some quirky one liners to keep people attention till the end of the video.
Just throwing out some ideas.
Hopefully you get to one mill soon !😂🥳🥳
Who else coming back to watch Jason's videos even after having built a beefy gaming PC? Your videos are great as a refresher and learning new things. We appreciate ya Jason!
I really appreciate these videos! It's great that you break down all the terms on every video. I know you've probably said many of these things a thousand times but there's always new people coming in. and there's so much to learn that it takes a few times to really understand all these different numbers. Great job making content that's approachable to everyone, it's a rare talent!
Thanks so much for that! So glad you're enjoying the channel :D
MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk WiFi $280 for a Ryzen 9900x, when building a new system I'd much rather spend a couple more dollars and get latest gen and hopefully get at least 5 years out of it.
Same mother board and CPU that I would buy too
Too bad that one cheaps out on the SATA ports
Start buying good motherboards
haha yes!
A lot of folks don’t understand how tariffs work… rude awakening incoming.
Plus nvidia creating an artifical shortage. Prices will skyrocket@@Reluctant_Hero
Tds in full effect
@@Reluctant_Hero we do understand how they work. lets keep giving china all our jobs
Solid recommends Jason. Didn't see this before the deep discounts were pretty much gone. Something that might have been worth including, in the chipset discussion, is how the boards with dual promontory chips (so, ONLY X870E, X670E, and X670) have the better PCIe slot, M.2 socket, and Rear USB port options versus the single chip boards. Don't think the upcoming B850's will have dual, but we'll see. Oh and completely agree, the A620 and upcoming B840 are really garbage worth avoiding. I managed to snag a TUF X670E before the sales ended, to "match" my TUF 4080 Super.
Minor points on the two ASUS X670E boards recommended. Yeah, they are MOSTLY "the same", but there ARE minor differences that might matter to some. The TUF has 3x ARGB headers versus 2x on the PRIME, the PRIME has a TPM header (TUF doesn't), Clear CMOS button (versus just header on the TUF), and the PRIME supports CPU Over Voltage (via jumper) that the TUF doesn't. Also, for the 3.2 Gen 1 (5 Mbps) rear ports the PRIME has 4xA and 1xC, while the TUF is 5xA.
No MSI Mortar? Is it just a Tomahawk in mATX form?
Yes it's just the Tomahawk except with one less M.2 slot and less PCIE slots, and 2 less USB 2.0 ports on the rear IO. So basically yes. If you want a more premium mATX go for it.
Just built a new system with the 9800x3d. I initially ordered a MSI X670E Tomhawk but then sent it back and got the MSI X870 Tomahawk instead for 30$ more. Several reasons why x870 VS x670e :1) the x870 is newer, possibly longer term support ; 2) more usb ports total; 3) pci quick release for GPU - this alone is worth 30usd if you've ever been really frustrated to get the old gpu out of there; 4) usb 4 ; 5) wifi 7; 6) newer audio
I would say to people looking at getting a new motherboard sure maybe there is no one key feature in x870 that alone justifies it over a x670 or similar but as a whole it could make all the difference.
Agreed did the same.
25:07
Small note: if I'm not mistaken, the b650e version of this Mobo has pcie 5.0 for both the gpu and for the m.2 SSD compared to the regular b650, which only has pcie 4.0 for the gpu and SSD slot.
Not really a huge thing cuz pcie 5.0 has yet to be a standard, but worth mentioning in case you wanna future proof
Absolutely perfect timing on this video!
Would a gigabyte x870 aorus elite wifi 7 be an overkill/inappropriate matchup for an RTX 3090 and a 7800x3d or 9800x3d?
- Is the x870 comparable to b650e
- Does either b650e/x670e make more sense in my use case as mostly game and light productivity (NO Content Creation) work?
It's a little overkill but if you really want it it should be a good Motherboard with a 9800X3D.
I am a complete and total lamen In regards to building a computer and I’ve decided to build my first one. Your video has single-handedly been the most comprehensive and clear that I have ran across. (And I have seen quite a handful of hours of videos.) Thank you so much for what you do! Subscribe!!
So glad we could help! Best of luck with your build!
I bought the MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WiFi for my new build
Me too! just three days ago!
same, this is my first pc build, i’m super excited but really nervous😭
Currently running a 7800x3d on a msi b650 tomahawk and it's amazing with 32gb 6000mhz ram 750w psu and a 7900gre
Nice!
Is the 750w sufficient to run both CPU & GPU?
Black Friday gave us some crazy deals. I managed to get the MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk Wifi bundled with the Ryzen 5 7600X for $465 CAD from NewEgg. Been pretty indecisive with the motherboard but think I'll be quite satisfied with that motherboard, especially for the price.
Needed this vid badly THANK YOU🙏🏽💙
With all the new launches we hoped this would be useful!
dude you sure keep up with stuff! good job!
This was so helpful, thank you. I want a new computer for content creation (video, animation) and no other guides explained the difference in B vs X boards in a way I could understand, as I am a total newbie. Your guide made it clear as day.
So happy to help! Thanks for the feedback that means a lot
I was just watching your old Ryzen motherboard videos earlier as I needed a new board and cpu. Stop reading my mind!!
Oh no they are onto us! (;
Glad we can help!
First video I have a watched from this channel and I'm blown away by the quality of information that it provided.
Glad you found us! Hope you keep enjoying the content (:
Just picked up a Ryzen 9 9900x and a MSI B650m for a micro atx "console" build, gonna run a intel Arc a770 for a while, it was $300 and seems to be pretty solid nowadays.
This video is exactly what I needed, been scratching my head on what makes each form factor good.
Glad that worked out! Hope you keep enjoying all the content!
@@PCBuilderChannel Definitely. Subbed, belled and everything. Keep up the excellent work.
I will still be rocking my ASRock B650 Steel Legend. I got it at launch for $ 178. It is actually a 650E as it supports Pcle 5,Insane Vrams with high-end audio with 10 connectivity slots,you can not find this motherboard anywhere now,not in the U.S. anyway
I got one preordered, hardware unboxed rated it really highly
It was too good to be true so they stopped producing them😅
@@themarketgardener there was a restock on amazon yesterday so I don't think they stopped making them
Would you say it's worth getting the Steel Legend B650E version over the B650 version for $25 (12%) more?
@markoselendic3690 send me that link. The cheapest I have been able to get the B650E for is $239,that is $60 more that I paid for the B650,I would get the Tiachi or Riptide for that price increase
As an engineer working on servers, the desktop cpu/chipset world is mostly foreign to me, but I try to build every other pc to keep somewhat in touch. Thanks a ton for this jam packed video that covered the points I needed to catch up quickly, as well as being digestible by my 12 year old son.
So glad we could help! Thanks for the great feedback
Appreciate the video. Helped me out when upgrading to am5 platform this holiday.
so glad we could help! Thanks for watching
Great video; very informative and just the kind of video I've been looking for as I'm building my own PC this winter.
So glad to help! Thank you for watching
Great Video Jason. Just let you know the Colorful Brand have B760m & B650m Colorfire Meow motherboards with Cats decorations.
Thank you! And what?? How did I not know this! (;
Exactly what I needed! Putting a build together for my brother :)
Exciting! Best wishes on the build and glad I could help!
@PCBuilderChannel thank you! Always appreciate your videos!
Great information!! Just picked up an X870e crosshair hero i found for a good discount and a 9800x3d. Looking forward to building up my new and first amd pc in a hyte y70 touch case and a rog strix 4080 super oc gpu! I had bought a 14900k when it first csme out but hadn't used it, then all the intel issues started happening. I didn't trust it so i sold it and my Z690E gaming wifi mb and made the amd switch!!
got the msi mag b650 tomahawk. Great board for under 200 dollars! TOTALLY worth it. its VERY feature proof. and with a bios update works with 9800!!!
One potential suggestion for the future is mentioning the bios software of each board and how capable it is? For instance, I love the look of NZXT motherboards, but their BIOS is the most basic and unintuitive from the other manufacturers
I currently have MSI suprim X4090 with 9800x3d I play competitive mainly what board would you recommend for best performance and thank you for your advice to us
Msi X870e Godlike... 🎉
Great video fella,
Why thank you! Glad you enjoyed this one!
we appreciate you refilming the b650 section because of the price cuts. It's such a moving target !
Thank you!
Jason thanks to you I am now very knowledgeable about Mobos. You have done all the hard work in pointing out which boards are best for our needs. TY
Thanks Rand! Really glad it was helpful. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving!
I got the Asrock B650E PG-ITX WIFI (Its X870 motherboard in a small build) with PCIE 5.0 Nvme and PCIE 5.0 x16 for next gen card. What I like about the motherboard is the software for Intel Killer Wifi. You can disable many Windows functions via Game Fast option to reduce lag in games and prevent Windows from updating especially Windows defender and update.
surprised to not see the asrock B650M HDV/M.2 on this list as its $99 sale rn for M-ATX board. seems to be a great option
why would that surprise you? this guy hates asrock he always leaves them off all his lists
@@chattifactorynot ALWAYS. At 14:00 he recommended the ASRock B650M Pro.
@@brentfugett2700 thats true he just very rarely pushes anything asrock if ever and asrock is the top company IMO
22:33 What do you think about the micro atx version of this board? Been eyeing a Microcenter bundle with the 7600x and the Tuf Gaming b650m plus wifi
Should be fine, just note the 9600X is only $30 more but unsure how much better that CPU is.
you make it look so easy explaining all this! just what i needed cuz i was getting lost in all the A-B-BxxxE-X- series !
Its super confusing! So glad we could help!
I subbed because your videos are informative and efficient, straight to the point and real info most average pc users understand.
Thank you and thanks for the sub! Hope you keep enjoying the content
Super informative, well done!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching
Thank you for the incredibly informative video!
You're welcome! Glad you found it helpful!
Which motherboard would you recommend for a build with the upcoming RTX 5090 and 9950X3D?
Literally searching for a motherboard last night, think god this dropped today 😂😂😂
We hoped the timing would be good for folks!
@PCBuilderChannel appreciate all the work u do, so helpful!!!!
@@PCBuilderChannel You're the man!
Cant thank you enough for doing this, your content is amazing!
So glad its helpful! Thank you for watching
Great video Jason ❤
Thank you! And thanks for watching!
Thank you so much for making such a video. I was just looking for a similar Video on youtube and your video poped up. Really Thank you and God Bless you
No problem! Good luck on your build!
Sooo I just bought a ROG Strix X670E-F for my 7800x3d, and I gotta ask, what is the compromise they made with the F skew compared to just the E?
I'm doing a "Slow AM5 build" for 2025, buying parts randomly until I'm ready to retire my older AM4 build. Your videos have been incredibly helpful!
Best wishes on the build and glad we could help!
Just got an Asus Prime X870-P Wifi AM5. Hope this fits in a med size case. Also got the new Ryzen 9800x3d. Hope everything is going to work out. This will be my first PC build.
I always follow your guide and suggestions. Never disappointed ❤
Thank you!
So glad we can help!
Thanks dude 👍🏽
You bet! Thanks for watching!
Great explanation in the differences of the boards.
Glad you enjoyed this one! Thanks for watching.
Which motherboards can support dual gpus slots for ryzen 9,9950 .- budget, midrange and premium?. Thanks
I bought the gigabyte B650 eagle AX for my AM5 build. Its got 12 phase VRM, which for what I paid for ($170 USD), theres nothing else as good locally
What do you think of the Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX?
For a Budget - Midrange B650 (preferably White) what motherboard will be the best? (I tried finding the Steel Legend but it was nowhere sadly)
Gigabyte Aorus Ice would be good.
@kelley09162 thanks, can you also recommend me a substitution to NZXT H6 Flow (idk why my pc builder has no updated stuffs)
@@Not_Deb The Montech Sky Two GX has good reviews and if in the US the White Version is $79. Just note it doesn't come with a rear fan so you'll need to buy one.
@@kelley09162 I was expecting something similar to NZXT H6 Flow but...thanks
@@Not_Deb oh my bad
Essential video for a modern build! 💯
Thank you Thomas!! Hope you are having a great weekend!
Im building with a 7900xt gpu and a 7700x cpu. Is the Asus rog strix B650e-f overkill? Its on amazon for $240
What do you thiunk about ASUS TUF Gaming B550-PLUS WiFi II motherboard? Is it good for 5 5600x? And if not is there any good mid range 150$ motherboards maybe for upgrade too?
Between this channel and gamersnexus i can always find the info i need. You are doing a phenomenal job, keep it up! (and you have saved me and my family SO much on windows and office keys! 🍻)
So glad to have helped! Thanks for the feedback it means a lot
@PCBuilderChannel you definitely help. I'll be using your vids to pick out parts for another build in jan or feb
Does the ASRock B650M Pro RS WiFi AM5 AMD B650 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX Motherboard support wifi 7?
No
Good morning Jason crew and kitties! Great content as usual! it’s funny, I’m patrolling around and I’m putting my computer together with with your suggestions in my mind… come on 2025 video cards!! ( maybe)🤔
Good morning William!! Going to be a great build!
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What about the Asrock B650 PG Lightning? It did not get mentioned here but would it be a good choice?
how is there no asrock b650 steel legend wifi
Hey, thanks for the video! I was wondering if you could do a review of some x870e motherboards. I'm trying to decide between the x870e Asus ROG lineup and the x670e TUF. Which one do you think is the better buy? Im building for productivity work not gaming
Daughter said she wanted a new computer for Xmas so we bit the bullet and ordered a B650E AORUS STEALTH ICE which has reverse connectors. What are you thoughts on the reverse connector Mobo's Jason?
Thanks for your cpu video last week. I was able to get a good deal on 9600x, Asus B650E-F & ram. Thanks to Newegg combo deal I got $15 each off the ram and cpu. Also got $60 off the motherboard plus the free 1tb ssd. Unfortunately it is no longer available and the board gone up in price.
Glad you got what you needed!!
I bought the GigaByte Gaming plus wifi board. It comes with a Ryzen 7700x and TForce 32 gb ram with only 480 cad cant say no to that..
How is the asrock b650 livemixer compared to other midrange motherboard options you recommended?
Hey will the ASUS TUF Gaming B650-PLUS work good with the new AMD Ryzen 7 9800x3d?
Got a newegg combo deal that included a x870 motherboard. Will I need a gen 5.0 riser cable to go to my 3080ti with a water coolong block, or will the 4.0 cable still work? I couldn't use the original gen 3.0 cable i purchased without issues on a x570 board, and wanted to have all the parts ready to go before placing everything back in the case. Please and thank you
Hi all, I am thinking about buying Asrock B650 Steel Legend Wifi or Asrock B650E Steel Legend Wifi (right now they are at same price somehow). Which category this Motherboard fit (mid or premium)? And do you think one of them is objectively better than the other? Thank You in advance
I forgot to add that the goal is to keep room for possible future upgrades in terms of CPU (right now it will be Ryzen 7 7500F) and GPU (probably a 4070S). Other options for Motherboard are really welcome. Thanks
I've watched Hardware Unboxed's review of the Steel Legend WiFi and the Aorus Elite AX V2, and they both perform as well as, or even better than, the premium B650 boards. However, the Steel Legend has very limited stock, so if it's available in your area, don't hesitate to grab it. Don't buy the B650E Steel Legend the B650 somehow is better which is really strange.
Hey! How about the ASRock B650 Steel Legend Wifi ??
And is it good for the R7 9800X3D?
Good board but its been completely out of stock! If you can find it at a good price that's fine. The MSI Tomahawk would be my pick over it
Better to get the asus tuff gaming 670e plus wifi for 200 on bestbuy
@@PCBuilderChannel thanks for the advice!
@@PCBuilderChannel Why the tomohawk over the Steel Legend? Seen many advice Steel Legend over the Tomohawk? The Steel Legend is in stock where i live and excatly the same price as the Tomohawk
The Tomahawk has better rear panel connectivity and audio
Msi b650m gaming wifi or its b650m gaming plus wifi model?
Which will be future proof board and worth?🙄
Here in india its like 60USD price difference
Great content. Ty vm
Glad you're enjoying it, you're so welcome! And thanks for tuning in ;)
So, I’m looking to upgrade my son’s pc for Christmas. Going with the Ryzen 5 5600x and had been racking my brain on what MB & gpu to pair with it. What do you know, stumbled across this informational video. Thanks man!
So happy to help!
@ Probably a wild question. But would an Asus Tuf b550 with a 3060 gpu be a good fit for a teenager ? Just wanted to get a more experienced input is all
please advise if these motherboards include 5v 3pin ARGB due to the fact that I want to connect with Lian li strimer
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Love to see a review on the upcoming Intel B580 GPU.
Do you recommend Maxsun challenger B650m Wifi? for ryzen 5 7500f?
Hi Jason, Love from Bangladesh. I have been building an AM5 gaming Pc for myself for a while now, buying parts one by one. You have been very helpful in this whole process, especially since I am no expert, I have only mid level knowledge in building a PC. I have a question I hope you'll answer.
I have bought Team T-force delta 32GB DDR5 CL30 RAMs (they come in 16gb x 2 dimms in one box), and I have ordered a 9800x3D. I want to pair it up with a good Motherboard that has good VRMs, and provides me the options to add another T-force Delta 32GB RAMs later. (16gb x 2 dimms in one box, same as before). Considering this and the pricing in Bangladesh, I decided the MSI B650 Tomahawk Wifi would be best for my purpose. But a friend of mine said that I can get the MSI X670E Tomahawk board by adding only 30$. It has better VRMs and more ports and whatnot. I have the budget to buy that, no problem. (There's a great offer going on for this board here in Bangladesh, I am very intrigued)
But per my meager research, I found someone pointing out that I will have to use Two 32GB single dimms for the X670E board, I can't use those 16GB X 2 dimms when I upgrade the RAMs. Also X670E Tomahawk has ALC 1200 audio compared to ALC 4080 of the B650 Tomahawk's.
I'm sorry for such a lengthy question, I know you must be a busy man. But It would really help me if you told me which board I should buy. I will not overclock my PC, just some gaming and casual Photoshop. It is very hard to get good advice for building a PC here in Bangladesh. Also these are the only decent deals for a B650 and X670E boards respectively here in my place, so my hands are essentially tied between these 2 boards. Thanks so much for all the help with your videos, and I hope you'll find the time to answer this query of mine.
hey pc builder i have a question on which cpu should i buy for 7700xt gpu please give me an answer thank you a lot
7600 would be a great choice! See our Best GPU/CPU Combo 2024 video for more
@ thank you a lot really appreciated
whats the final answer for the b650 steel legend wifi, does it have pcie 5.0 and they misspelled the manual? or does it not have it and every store just put it on their page because of miscommunication?
So we see the features here...but what about performance? Thats just as important and it seems it was skipped over. Ive done quite a bit of studying to find a good motherboard for my new ryzen 5 7600x3d, and the ASRock was the best for performance...while the MSI Mag Tomahawk, the premium AM5 you suggest, is only average performance.