DDR4 Ram has better Cas Latency though. 3200 CL 14 for example is equivalent to 6400 CL 28 (Lowest CL I've seen for DDR5 is 30 though) DDR4 Ram is still perfectly fine. Your ram is better than the cheap DDR5 kits he's telling you to avoid Edit: He's telling you not to buy those because 5600 isn't all that great (for DDR5) and that CL is garbage. Your kit is actually faster than that. The DDR4 equivalent to that kit he showed is 2800 CL20 (sounds like crap doesn't it?)
4060 is still a lot better in blender and other 3D programs and old game compatibility tests has been done yet, also the intel command/control panel lacks a lot of features compared to AMD's and nvidias. But yeah if you do not care about those 3 things then battlemages are absolute chads.
It doesn't kind of make it obsolete, it just overall smashes it in bang for buck. 8 GB cards in general are pretty much dead nowadays. What he said about needing 10 to 12 GB, for 1080p alone, is absolutely correct.
For those buying a fish tank case: You should be okay for the most part. While playing intensive games, my CPU only hovers around 50-55C and my GPU hovers around 55-60C. Just make sure you’re doing the “optimal” fan set up of your bottom and side panel fans pulling up air, and your top and back fans pushing out air
@@Merns you can always remove these fans and orient/place them the way you’d like. Most fans will have arrows indicating the direction in which air is flowing. Always ensure you’re pulling in more air than you are exhausting (in most case scenarios).
Honestly, as if now. Im just sticking with my ryzen 7 5700x3d and evga 3060 TI. Still getting great framerates with most games on high settings on 1440p. I do see it becoming a problem in about a year, but for now my system is still a beast for tje games i play. I thank thats another thing a lot of pc channels dont adress. The tech you need for what you play.
Until November I played greatly in FHD with an i5 4690 and a RX 5700, even games like BG3, Witcher 3, Cyberpunk 2077, Jedi Survivor and so on. But since the cpu more and more became an absolut bottleneck and new games become more and more demanding, are optimized very Bad and demand Raytracing compatibility, i upgraded to a 7800X3D and a 4070 ti Super. On to many years of happy gaming again :) Now in WQHD.
Now I know why the intel b580 is priced so low, once the tariffs kick in, it will be around 350 to 450. Companies are greedy so don’t expect any gpu under 250 by January. It’s now the time to buy all the tech.
With RAM it is also important to have 2 sticks and use alternate channels to install them. 1 stick will not provide full performance, and 4 sticks are unstable in some cases.
ddr5 will work okay with single stick as its dual channel. It's not 10-15% performance hit like it was with ddr4. It's a few percent. Two sticks is the sweet spot though.
@@grappleronyt4662ddr5 ram sticks dont like when you plug 4 of them, your pc might not boot at all. Get 2 sticks of 16/24 to get 32/48 ram and thats enough for modern gaming
Hey there geekawhat, Great video today. Thanks for all the work you and your team put into these videos, I feel as though you are underappreciated. You always, consistently manage to provide an entertaining but also informative video, without going too overboard on the enthusiasm. Keep it up!!
With ram the cas latency matters very little for performance but the lower cas latency ram generally has better memory chips that will run better secondary timings. That’s what matters more for the performance.
Realistically how much of a difference is CL 32 from 38? I have 6000Mhz ddr5, but was wondering if the cas difference really matters if I’m already running my XMP to 6k
@ not true, as long as you can run it in 1:1 it will still be better. I personally run 6400 cl30 with tightened secondary timings and it’s quite a bit better than 6000.
What i know its the matter of consistency. Good thing AM4 is the king for value to performance. And getting 32gb with c16 c18 and dram SSD should really really set you up for gaming, productivity, even low-bill
That's only cache memory and not RAM memory. A cache is kinda like a page file, used for holding data until it's needed and then flushed after transfer. RAM on the other hand will store memory until electrons are no longer present, (as in when the power is terminated from the PC.
6:30 RAM speed all depends on compatibility. I have a Core i-7 13700K CPU. The maximum RAM speed supported is 5600Mhz, so buying RAM based purely on the rated speed being greater than that is pointless. 11:20 PC Parts Picker is definitely a more reliable source of information for power supplies, than most websites. I checked about nine or ten sites and a few of them under-quoted the power draw of parts (because they don't ask enough information) and a couple of them over-quoted, presumably because they wanted to sell us more than we need.
It's worth checking mobo compatability list agreed. However the supported Ram frequency of your Cpu only indicates the guaranteed frequency that will work on all Cpu of that type sold, it is just the lowest bar not the limit your specific Cpu can handle (a bit like how one 13700K can OC higher than another 13700k, silicon lottery) It's also worth noting that Ram Speed is calculated using Frequency and Latency (cas). Ram that is rated 6000Mhz @ cas 40 is guaranteed to run at that speed, the same speed may be achieved running the 6000Mhz Ram at 5600Mhz with lower cas timings. Again it is down to thew silicon lottery somewhat.
just bought parts two days ago, saw this vid, none of the parts i bought was listed. GOD BLESS THAT VALIDATES MY RESEARCH WAS RIGHT. first time building so i was nervous as heck suddenly jumping from a 1650 laptop to a 4070 PC build
4:40 No, this is because Nvidia is better at memory compression than AMD. There are different examples where what you're saying here is true though. End of the day, you should get a card with enough memory for YOUR needs. 8gb is actually still plenty for a surprising amount of people
its not enough lil bro no need to defend nvidia. watch for once 7600xt and rtx 4060 they have ~same vram usage. what memory compression ur talking about? they both use GDDR6 chips try gaming at lowest resolution possible the 1080p and max setting demand more than 8 gb vram for new aaa games. even cyberpunk from 2021 cant run on 8gb card at 1080p with RT OD settings not speaking of latest titles there are so many of them where ur 4060 will choke itself: stalker 2, black myth wukong, avatar, forbidden west and zero dawn, alan wake 2 especially brother literally any UE5 game ffs 💀
@@despairdx There's a video by Daniel Owen comparing the 4060 and 7600xt. The 7600xt uses 1-3gb more vram depending on the title. 3gb difference is insane so no they are nowhere near the same usage lmao. You're correct that 8gb isn't enough to run AAA titles with max settings in a lot of cases, but if you want to do that in the first place you would never buy a 4060 or a 7600xt. And as for RT Overdrive that is just ridiculous for a 60 class card so i won't even get into that 😂 I refer back to my original comment, get the card that suits YOUR requirements and not what everyone tells you to get online
@@justmatt2655 7600xt shreds any game on high-ultra settings in 1080p just because the 4060 can't run ultra 1080p or medium 1440p doesn't mean it's impossible at the price point
@@TyroneTheBest vram isn't everything, the 7600xt still doesn't have much horsepower so it won't be able to get 60fps in every game. Besides the new B580 puts both to shame
I think the emphasis on VRAM is overblown. If you happen to hit an extremely demanding title that would use more than 8GB, just drop the texture quality a bit. It'll still look good and you'll still have fun. I run most games on low regardless of how much performance overhead I have because the visuals are typically still good, frame rates are always rock solid stable even in demanding games, fans are silent, and it saves power. For me 8 GB of VRAM will last a really long time.
In the context of this video, there aren't really any bad PC components. There's over-priced ones. So that, for example, a 4060 is a fine graphics card if you can buy one for under £100 / $100 / 100 Euros. 😄
depends where you live ....rx6600 cost me like a damn 4070ti i would get 4070ti instead...if i want to save more money i would go for 4070... I don't know why it's so expensive here for amd gpu but it makes sense when almost all local retail shops don't sell amd gpu here...
kinda disagree about the not needing a 1200 watt psu, sure it may be overkill but it future proofs your pc so that you almost possibly never have to replace it again, unless ofc it dies out or something
A 1200W PSU is completely pointless if you're rocking say an RTX 4070 and Ryzen 5. It's just a waste of $70 extra for an upgrade path you're likely never going to use. I would always replace the PSU when I replace my build anyway (as by that point it's going to be getting on 6 or 7 years old...) Of course, if you intend to upgrade the GPU or CPU in the near term feel free to future proof the wattage.
@GeekaWhat sure, it's overkill, even for my 4070 ti super, I just personally didn't wanna have to pull the thing back out once I undoubtedly have to upgrade again
@@spyrolancer 1200 watt is overkill for the next 10years at least. youll be better put your extra 70-100 dollars into your current componant rather the most useless upgrade path.
Despite the overall hate for it, I upgraded to an rtx 4060 from my old rtx 3050 at a fairly good price. Bc in the end it's not a terrible card, it was within my budget, and also it comes in white which fits my PC build aesthetic and I'm fine with that. I'm not a serious gamer anyway 😂✨
I'm disappointed with the 5080 series and their price points, especially given the limited RAM. It really should have 24GB instead of just 16GB. Unfortunately, that means I'm passing on Nvidia for 2025. I'll be opting for the upcoming AMD 24GB versions instead.
Just finished building a system and did not measure the AIO case and motherboard clearance. Luckily Lian Li make some AIO brackets (RB-001X) that extend the screw holes, letting me mount the AIO just off center on the top of the case saving my build
I feel like people really need to do a lot of research before buying anything pc component related. High end PC parts are so expensive it's out of control BUT when you inevitably pay the crazy prices you should seriously consider a lot of things such as the F word yes it is that word Future proofing haha. You really need to build something that is very future proof and something you wont need to upgrade until 20 years from now. All the best my pc gamer friends and all the best with your awesome pc builds!
Same. Not had any issues with bad 13/14 gen CPU’s at all (talking sample size of around 100 CPU’s). But I made sure that even before the drama started, that they were all set to run within the Intel datasheet power levels & not just allowed to suck as much voltage as they wanted. This is where the difference between experienced system builders & DIY home rig builders differ massively. There is much more to building a PC than just putting the parts together & setting XMP in the BIOS but the vast majority think that that is acceptable.
** Edit.., I havnt fully built it but all the parts are now here. Worried I bought the wrong memory for my new rig I just built, specs are as follows... Asus Rog X570 Crosshair VIII Dark Hero Ryzen 9 5950X (16C/32T) Gigabyte RX 7700 XT OC (12 GB) Corsair 850W RMx Series RM850X V2 PSU Fully Modular 80+ Gold ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420mm A-RGB MEMORY Kingston FURY Renegade 16GB 3600MT/s DDR4 CL16 DIMM X 4 = 64GB Just watched a few channels that say this memory wont work on my rig, appreciate any advice you or a viewer may have.
These videos never really make sense to me. If you're buying a brand new PC, yeah listen to the guy he has sole great advice. But it's not like previous gen systems and cards are useless all of a sudden.
Hi Geeka, extremely informative video, thanks! Quick question, I recently bought the Razer Katana PSU 850W 80+ Platinum as it was a bargain of a price for my very first build, which is arriving tomorrow. After a bit of research online there are currently no reviews, so I was hoping to see if you know anything about this PSU. Thanks again!
MSI B650 does in fact have BIOS flashback and supports AM5..........Right now my favorite case is the Corsair 3500x, under $100. Air flow is not an issue at all. Not sure where that comes from.
CL 36 is fine the difference between CL30 and CL36 is like between 2 to 3% hardly any gamechanger. Id rather use my budget to towards a CPU/GPU and having a decent PSU over overspending on RAMs in particular
So you would spend another $10-20 on CPU or GPU and think you gain more than the 3% you lost by nerfing the RAM? good luck with that. I would rather just spend those extra $10-20 on the RAM.
The difference between 30 and 36 is literally like $10 tho... and you futureproof your RAM. (Yes I hate the term "futureproof" but for only $10 is is definitely something I wouldn't downgrade on...)
7700x is perfectly fine. X3D cpus are expensive, for 1440p and 4K they are not worth it since you'll be GPU bound pretty much in every game. Buy X3D when you play esports titles on 1080p or if you're rich and don't care about the higher price.
So with VRAM as a consideration how do people rate the RX 7600 XT as a bang for your buck graphics card. 16GB and priced at £300 right now seems pretty decent on the surface.
@@Bannerlordfor Yeah, it's just interesting as that VRAM is always held against the 4060 but then as you say 7600XT has issues using it and seems like the 4060 Ti 16GB also does despite addressing the main criticism of the ordinary 4060. Sounds like my list should be 6750XT, 7700XT, 7800XT up to 7900 GRE depending on how far I can stretch my budget.
Hey i have just brought kingston ram memory,interesting no one made presentation of kingston product obvious they dont need it,but we still buying they are great no need to go for corsair,gskill,t group...
Are x3d cpus that good? I saw that performance increase is at best 10 FPS in games compared to non x3d BUT the price differnece IS FUCKING INSANE, seriously in my country you are paying ABOUT 70% MORE FOR THE X3D VARIANT! It is fucking insane for just 10 FPS! WTF.
X3D are significantly better for gaming because of the L3 cache. Now whether the price justifies it is up to you, as you do pay ~$300 more for these CPUs but they do provide a bug performance boost. I can see why it is hard to want to spend $600 on a CPU which is why I would recommend getting an AM4 X3D (they're like $200) if you want the boost. The only problem is that you would be on AM4 but the CPU will be good for years anyways. Otherwise Ryzen 5 7600 and 7700 series are fine and are on AM5
When you looking for a GPU there are some important factors to look for below. 1. Bus Speed, 128 bit, 192 bit, 284, 384 bit. 2. VRAM Type GDDR, GDDR6, GDDR6X 3. VRAM: 2, 4, 6, 8, 12, 16, 24, 32 GDDR6x 4. Cooling Design: 1,2,3 Single, Dual, triple fans 5. Form Factor Size: mini-ATX, micro, ATX 6: Power Supply: What is the recommended power supply needed to power the GPU as well for overclocking
I went with the 7800xt around that price range but also over spent a bit on other parts to future proof and have high quality other parts. You can go that route or 7900gre with some good quality parts too
depends, if you buy cheapest 4060 ti 16gb which costed around $350 might be good, but note that some of 4060 ti 16b cost MORE than a 4070, heck some version surpass 4070 super, be careful of what version you buy, cheapest 4070 is miles better than an expensive 4060 ti 16gb
No, just buy the B580 for 100$ less or a 7700xt for like 40$ more. They are both significantly better choices. If you dont mind you can also wait for the next AMD gen for the 8700xt for about the same price for the 7700xt
If you're going with AMD the RX 6800, 7700 XT, and 7800 XT are great options. If it's NVIDIA the RTX 4070 is a better option than the 4060TI. If it's intel the B580 is a great alternative.
Geekapc is charging 1099 pounds for a 4060 or rx7600 pc.... that almost $1400us. That is absolutely insane. You can get the same thing in the states for less than $1000 us which is like 800 pounds. man. Idk why people overvalued this stuff. Especially when people have plenty of options. You'd think sellers would want to be competitive. And geekawhat, I love you guys. I just think you're over estimating the worth of your builds
On our RTX 4060 build we make less than £200 of profit. UK sales tax (VAT) of 20% means you can't just compare part prices using the exchange rate as that fails to account for the appropriate taxes. Of course, building is always going to be cheaper than buying prebuilt. The added cost is so we can service things like insured delivery, warranty, customer support and more. It is not our aim to be cheap, it's our aim to do a good job.
Question for everyone in the chat, including @GeekaWhat. How do you guys feel about AMD 9700X cpu? Is it good for productivity and gaming? And if i didn't want to use an AIO water cooler, what is a suggested air cooler? Thanks in advance
Going with a Ryzen 7 9800X3D, MSI or ASUS X870E board, RTX 4090 or 5090 (if they aren't crazy overpriced ofcourse), 64 GB of Trident Z Neo RGB with CL30 Latency at 6400 MHz, 1200W ASUS Loki Platinum (as this one was somehow cheaper than a 1000W of many others), 4TB Crucial T705 (which I got as a present for my new build) and a Watercooling system of EKWB or Alphacool, then all packed into the Lian Li O11 Vision Chrome. seems very little will be bottlenecked because of it. Upgrading from a i9 10900k with a RTX 3090 that seems to have slight damage on the VRAM and crashes many games because of it.. with DDR4 build still..
Mate, you just saved me from making a very bad choice on cpu. Thank you 👍 I went for the ryzen 7 5700x3d over the 5 7600x with a very small price difference
Depends do you need the capacity more than speed? No point having the fastest RAM if going to end up running out of it due to projects using it all up. Are you happy with how things are performing presently? If happy with performance then changing it isn’t going to do much for you.
Completely valid. Only issue is when AM6 is out it will be hella expensive. Plus you want a motherboard with updated PCIE slots too, in which case most AM4 motherboards won't
Please avoid buying motherboards that arent ASUS branded btw. The newer 13th and 14th gen CPUs have been impacted because of motherboard manufacturers not heeding the specifications set by the CPU manufacturers. The only brand that has heeded this, is ASUS. Never cheap out on a motherboard, especially when you are running high powered components. Made the mistake of buying a Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX Z790, and now I have to go to a repair shop to have my BIOs updated since its currently refusing all my attempts (most likely the USB I'm using but dont have any others to test this theory on).
Dang maybe I should return the team group 32gb 5200 ram and crucial p310… I’ve been contemplating this and might just get 64gb 6000 ram and Samsung ssd. I’ve ran the apps I have though without any issues so far, is it REALLY REALLY worth the upgrade?
I will say 64 GB of ram is absolutely overkill for 99% of people. I would stick with 32 GB and save $80 - $100. Especially with DDR5 speeds 32 is enough. I will say though 5200 is kinda slow for DDR5 tbh
Everyone says “dont buy intel!” but when I compare the price to performance from the 14600kf to any cpu from amd, the price to performance just makes me get intel, why should i get amd when the equal performance would end up in me buying a cpu costing 100$+
Because the intel socket 1700 is dead, meaning there won’t be any more CPUs for it and not a good upgrade path. The AM5 still has a few more generations left so really good upgrade path.
@@TufoTech aight next question Are the results meaningfully different enough for me to not only know what that means but to truly consider AMD over Intel? Also, *which* AMD CPU has better... "niche" performance?
I think the 9800x3d might be overkill for a 4070 ti super since the 7800X3D already combos really well with it and as of now (for me anyways maybe because of stock issues or shipping to my country) the 9800x3d is more expensive than the 4070 ti super so unless you're getting a 4080 super, 4090 or the new 50 series I'd just get the 7800x3d, 9700x or 7700x
Looking to get a new PC im on i7 GTX1070 unit would a be best to wait till end of Jan to look to purchase somthing more for Gaming and music production with photoshop
I was thinking about a new pc built with Mother board x870 Ryzen 7 7700x Gpu 4060 Ram 6000mh 32gb 2tb ssd. Will this configaration be good enough or I need to change something ?
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Dude starts talking about 5600MHz DDR5 being slow, as I watch through my 3200MHz DDR4 😅
DDR4 Ram has better Cas Latency though. 3200 CL 14 for example is equivalent to 6400 CL 28 (Lowest CL I've seen for DDR5 is 30 though) DDR4 Ram is still perfectly fine. Your ram is better than the cheap DDR5 kits he's telling you to avoid Edit: He's telling you not to buy those because 5600 isn't all that great (for DDR5) and that CL is garbage. Your kit is actually faster than that. The DDR4 equivalent to that kit he showed is 2800 CL20 (sounds like crap doesn't it?)
@@lanceleone2704 yep just upgraded to 64 gigs at 3200 from 16 gigs at 2600 and holy shit what a difference!!
3200 is pretty good for DDR4 so long as you have CL16 or lower. I have 3600 DDR4 CL17 which is fine because 3600 is usually CL18.
Evga is the best i miss them so much
@kurosakitagami2788 wtf are you talking about evga? Nothing here is about EVGA
in north american, basically need to avoid buying any electronics in 2025 due to the 46% increase in tariff, buy now if you can
Really hope orange man doesn't implement that shit right away.
@@Adrian_Franco It's set in stone already to implement in January. It's on the news
Yep, China already cut off the USA from any tech items
this whole situation reminds me of the similar one we had in uk not too long ago...
You're not smart, are you?
The intel B580 makes 4060 kinda... obsolete? I don't know I need more samples for my verdict.
If they are produced enough and they provide support for old games (Won't ever happen according to DF) , then yeah
The 1% low is not good on intel your games will be lagging you will have to wait for drivers update
look for benchmarks lmfao there are so many informative channels why ur asking here?
daniel owen, hw unboxed, gn, jayztwocents... they all got it
4060 is still a lot better in blender and other 3D programs and old game compatibility tests has been done yet, also the intel command/control panel lacks a lot of features compared to AMD's and nvidias. But yeah if you do not care about those 3 things then battlemages are absolute chads.
It doesn't kind of make it obsolete, it just overall smashes it in bang for buck. 8 GB cards in general are pretty much dead nowadays. What he said about needing 10 to 12 GB, for 1080p alone, is absolutely correct.
For those buying a fish tank case:
You should be okay for the most part. While playing intensive games, my CPU only hovers around 50-55C and my GPU hovers around 55-60C.
Just make sure you’re doing the “optimal” fan set up of your bottom and side panel fans pulling up air, and your top and back fans pushing out air
The Montech King 95 Pro comes with pre-installed fans, is there a way to check if these fans are set up the most optimal way?
@@Merns you can always remove these fans and orient/place them the way you’d like. Most fans will have arrows indicating the direction in which air is flowing.
Always ensure you’re pulling in more air than you are exhausting (in most case scenarios).
Funny comment, you do realize the so called "Fish tank" you all cry about doesn't resemble a fish tank at all. Band wagon folks ruin everything.
I came in sceptical for this video. But you ticked all the boxes with hardware to avoid. Good vid!
Honestly, as if now. Im just sticking with my ryzen 7 5700x3d and evga 3060 TI. Still getting great framerates with most games on high settings on 1440p. I do see it becoming a problem in about a year, but for now my system is still a beast for tje games i play. I thank thats another thing a lot of pc channels dont adress. The tech you need for what you play.
FACTS, had a 3070 and 3800X since 2021 and the only issue I've ever had was playing heavily modded Minecraft lol
Until November I played greatly in FHD with an i5 4690 and a RX 5700, even games like BG3, Witcher 3, Cyberpunk 2077, Jedi Survivor and so on. But since the cpu more and more became an absolut bottleneck and new games become more and more demanding, are optimized very Bad and demand Raytracing compatibility, i upgraded to a 7800X3D and a 4070 ti Super.
On to many years of happy gaming again :) Now in WQHD.
@@pattap9033 You should pair 7800x3d with something more than a 4070 Ti, there's a reason why most channels test ALL GPUs with a 7 or 9800x3d
@CNWPlayer its more. Its a ti Super. For WQHD more than enough.
@@pattap9033 Fair
MTS and MHz are different for DDR RAM. 6000 MT/s will actually mean 3000 MHz because the data rate is double the frequency or clock speed in DDR RAM.
Love how this video just summed up what everyone needs to know if they just got into the whole pc building hobby
cheers!
I have i3 13100F Sapphire 6500XT 4GB Kingston Fury Beast 16GB CL16 Motherboard MSI H610M-E Pro Case Antec NX200M @@GeekaWhat
@@GeekaWhatI would change to MSI Z790 Carbon Wifi ii and 32GB DDR5 6400MT/s
@@GeekaWhatWhich ram is good to buy
Now I know why the intel b580 is priced so low, once the tariffs kick in, it will be around 350 to 450. Companies are greedy so don’t expect any gpu under 250 by January. It’s now the time to buy all the tech.
Do it better and don't buy anything at all, the only way they will learn.
Hell yeah! I mean it’s bad but that’s what I’m doing. Just got my 5700X3D up and running and hoping to get some sort of card next Monday
With RAM it is also important to have 2 sticks and use alternate channels to install them. 1 stick will not provide full performance, and 4 sticks are unstable in some cases.
Fair point!
Thanks for dropping this comment. When you mean some cases do you mean the Physical fish tank case? Or in cases like times.
ddr5 will work okay with single stick as its dual channel. It's not 10-15% performance hit like it was with ddr4. It's a few percent. Two sticks is the sweet spot though.
@@grappleronyt4662ddr5 ram sticks dont like when you plug 4 of them, your pc might not boot at all. Get 2 sticks of 16/24 to get 32/48 ram and thats enough for modern gaming
@@bigzhopel1608 yup that’s my plan in my budget build. Planning to do. 2x16 gb thanks for the help ddr4 with a ddr4 mobo
Hey there geekawhat,
Great video today. Thanks for all the work you and your team put into these videos, I feel as though you are underappreciated. You always, consistently manage to provide an entertaining but also informative video, without going too overboard on the enthusiasm. Keep it up!!
Thank you - very kind of you! :)
This is a BRILLIANT video for someone new to building PCs! Well done
Based on the thumbnail, you want me to avoid buying a gpu, cpu, and ram? Sounds about right
With ram the cas latency matters very little for performance but the lower cas latency ram generally has better memory chips that will run better secondary timings. That’s what matters more for the performance.
Realistically how much of a difference is CL 32 from 38? I have 6000Mhz ddr5, but was wondering if the cas difference really matters if I’m already running my XMP to 6k
amd makes no difference above 6000
@ not true, as long as you can run it in 1:1 it will still be better. I personally run 6400 cl30 with tightened secondary timings and it’s quite a bit better than 6000.
@@user-vl4iq7bj5e yes it does matter. CL28 is much better than CL38 at the same speed
What i know its the matter of consistency.
Good thing AM4 is the king for value to performance. And getting 32gb with c16 c18 and dram SSD should really really set you up for gaming, productivity, even low-bill
Everyone’s a professional these days. You’re another one of the TH-cam genius😂😂😂😂
AMD 7800 went upto €590 in Germany compared to i7 14700 at 400. So this video is only for Americans
I wonder how much more expensive GPUs would be if you could buy memory (Vram) separately.
Completely glosses over the fact that some SSD's have on board memory and some have not and this also needs to be taken into consideration.
That's only cache memory and not RAM memory. A cache is kinda like a page file, used for holding data until it's needed and then flushed after transfer. RAM on the other hand will store memory until electrons are no longer present, (as in when the power is terminated from the PC.
Cache does matter, but if it's NVMe with host memory buffer, it matters significantly less. It's more a consideration for SATA SSDs.
I love the little bit of banter, keep it up mate :D
thank you!
6:30 RAM speed all depends on compatibility. I have a Core i-7 13700K CPU. The maximum RAM speed supported is 5600Mhz, so buying RAM based purely on the rated speed being greater than that is pointless.
11:20 PC Parts Picker is definitely a more reliable source of information for power supplies, than most websites. I checked about nine or ten sites and a few of them under-quoted the power draw of parts (because they don't ask enough information) and a couple of them over-quoted, presumably because they wanted to sell us more than we need.
I also have a 13700k and run 6400 without any problem it depends more on what moba you have
It's worth checking mobo compatability list agreed.
However the supported Ram frequency of your Cpu only indicates the guaranteed frequency that will work on all Cpu of that type sold, it is just the lowest bar not the limit your specific Cpu can handle (a bit like how one 13700K can OC higher than another 13700k, silicon lottery)
It's also worth noting that Ram Speed is calculated using Frequency and Latency (cas). Ram that is rated 6000Mhz @ cas 40 is guaranteed to run at that speed, the same speed may be achieved running the 6000Mhz Ram at 5600Mhz with lower cas timings. Again it is down to thew silicon lottery somewhat.
just bought parts two days ago, saw this vid, none of the parts i bought was listed. GOD BLESS THAT VALIDATES MY RESEARCH WAS RIGHT. first time building so i was nervous as heck suddenly jumping from a 1650 laptop to a 4070 PC build
im just upgraded to ddr3 this year , last time i was used ddr2 build .. btw why suddenly ddr4 and ddr5 exist ? am i still dreaming ? multiverse ?
Have you been in jail for the past 10 years 😂
I have 12gb mixed speeds in ddr3
Which CPU are you currently using in that build?
All I know is I finally got a 9800x3d on order and I didn't have to overpay
I wish future PC components be connected into the case magnatically, no wires needed😊
4:40 No, this is because Nvidia is better at memory compression than AMD. There are different examples where what you're saying here is true though. End of the day, you should get a card with enough memory for YOUR needs. 8gb is actually still plenty for a surprising amount of people
Yes 8 GB is enough, but the price to performance is sad 😔
its not enough lil bro no need to defend nvidia.
watch for once 7600xt and rtx 4060 they have ~same vram usage. what memory compression ur talking about? they both use GDDR6 chips
try gaming at lowest resolution possible the 1080p and max setting demand more than 8 gb vram for new aaa games. even cyberpunk from 2021 cant run on 8gb card at 1080p with RT OD settings not speaking of latest titles there are so many of them where ur 4060 will choke itself: stalker 2, black myth wukong, avatar, forbidden west and zero dawn, alan wake 2 especially brother literally any UE5 game ffs 💀
@@despairdx There's a video by Daniel Owen comparing the 4060 and 7600xt. The 7600xt uses 1-3gb more vram depending on the title. 3gb difference is insane so no they are nowhere near the same usage lmao.
You're correct that 8gb isn't enough to run AAA titles with max settings in a lot of cases, but if you want to do that in the first place you would never buy a 4060 or a 7600xt. And as for RT Overdrive that is just ridiculous for a 60 class card so i won't even get into that 😂
I refer back to my original comment, get the card that suits YOUR requirements and not what everyone tells you to get online
@@justmatt2655 7600xt shreds any game on high-ultra settings in 1080p
just because the 4060 can't run ultra 1080p or medium 1440p doesn't mean it's impossible at the price point
@@TyroneTheBest vram isn't everything, the 7600xt still doesn't have much horsepower so it won't be able to get 60fps in every game. Besides the new B580 puts both to shame
Editing 🔥🔥
6:41 slow 5600 lol. Me with my 3200 ram.
Me walking on 2666mhz💀
Still rocking a 2070S and 3600 RAM. I’m slow as fuck I guess
Very informative, thank you
I think the emphasis on VRAM is overblown. If you happen to hit an extremely demanding title that would use more than 8GB, just drop the texture quality a bit. It'll still look good and you'll still have fun. I run most games on low regardless of how much performance overhead I have because the visuals are typically still good, frame rates are always rock solid stable even in demanding games, fans are silent, and it saves power. For me 8 GB of VRAM will last a really long time.
In the context of this video, there aren't really any bad PC components. There's over-priced ones.
So that, for example, a 4060 is a fine graphics card if you can buy one for under £100 / $100 / 100 Euros. 😄
Now there a Intel gpu that is basically same thing as 4070 gpu way cheaper then 4070
depends where you live ....rx6600 cost me like a damn 4070ti
i would get 4070ti instead...if i want to save more money i would go for 4070... I don't know why it's so expensive here for amd gpu but it makes sense when almost all local retail shops don't sell amd gpu here...
@@TheDragonfridaythe b580 is a great gpu but don’t mislead and say it’s the same as a 4070 because it isn’t. A 4060 and 4060ti? Yes. A 4070? No.
Yeah but we don't live in that world, so the 4060 is a scam
No, the 4060 is an entry level card.
I haven't needed to buy any new PC components since 2023. Maybe my 8gb GPU could be better, but everything still runs fine.
Well done video.
kinda disagree about the not needing a 1200 watt psu, sure it may be overkill but it future proofs your pc so that you almost possibly never have to replace it again, unless ofc it dies out or something
A 1200W PSU is completely pointless if you're rocking say an RTX 4070 and Ryzen 5. It's just a waste of $70 extra for an upgrade path you're likely never going to use. I would always replace the PSU when I replace my build anyway (as by that point it's going to be getting on 6 or 7 years old...)
Of course, if you intend to upgrade the GPU or CPU in the near term feel free to future proof the wattage.
@GeekaWhat sure, it's overkill, even for my 4070 ti super, I just personally didn't wanna have to pull the thing back out once I undoubtedly have to upgrade again
@@spyrolancer 1200 watt is overkill for the next 10years at least. youll be better put your extra 70-100 dollars into your current componant rather the most useless upgrade path.
@@erwanlecocq381 I only spent a 110 on it lol
@@spyrolancer 110 for a 1200watt, so it won’t survive until next upgrade 🤣
THATS why I like platinum/titanium power supplies that 30% number is more like 10-15%.
Despite the overall hate for it, I upgraded to an rtx 4060 from my old rtx 3050 at a fairly good price. Bc in the end it's not a terrible card, it was within my budget, and also it comes in white which fits my PC build aesthetic and I'm fine with that. I'm not a serious gamer anyway 😂✨
I'll only say a jump of just one generation is not worth it, but if you're rich, it doesn't matter 😅
@@macblink I'm absolutely not rich at all??? I'm confused :'D
It is not a bad card, but 90% of times the price for it is 💩. It you found a good offer then good for you
@@retrohidalgo4024 I did find it at a good price thankfully 👍🏻
@@macblinkyou don't have to be rich to afford a 4060
I'm disappointed with the 5080 series and their price points, especially given the limited RAM. It really should have 24GB instead of just 16GB. Unfortunately, that means I'm passing on Nvidia for 2025. I'll be opting for the upcoming AMD 24GB versions instead.
Just finished building a system and did not measure the AIO case and motherboard clearance.
Luckily Lian Li make some AIO brackets (RB-001X) that extend the screw holes, letting me mount the AIO just off center on the top of the case saving my build
I feel like people really need to do a lot of research before buying anything pc component related. High end PC parts are so expensive it's out of control BUT when you inevitably pay the crazy prices you should seriously consider a lot of things such as the F word yes it is that word Future proofing haha. You really need to build something that is very future proof and something you wont need to upgrade until 20 years from now. All the best my pc gamer friends and all the best with your awesome pc builds!
"don't buy 14th gen" too late, i bought a 14900k, and guess what, absolutely zero problems with it.
Same. Not had any issues with bad 13/14 gen CPU’s at all (talking sample size of around 100 CPU’s). But I made sure that even before the drama started, that they were all set to run within the Intel datasheet power levels & not just allowed to suck as much voltage as they wanted. This is where the difference between experienced system builders & DIY home rig builders differ massively. There is much more to building a PC than just putting the parts together & setting XMP in the BIOS but the vast majority think that that is acceptable.
Yet*
@@saglike93 funny comment, i've got multiple 14900k builds, 2 of them i've had since the chip released and as above, zero issues
@ it was a joke so glad you picked up on the funny part, funnier that you felt the need to answer in such a butthurt way
@@saglike93 Explain how it was a butthurt answer? what is there to be butthurt about?
A very nice video 😃
Thanks!
If you were EVER buying Intel CPUs in the past 20+ years you were doing everything wrong and getting extremely ripped off.
I love how he featured himself 😂
** Edit.., I havnt fully built it but all the parts are now here.
Worried I bought the wrong memory for my new rig I just built, specs are as follows...
Asus Rog X570 Crosshair VIII Dark Hero
Ryzen 9 5950X (16C/32T)
Gigabyte RX 7700 XT OC (12 GB)
Corsair 850W RMx Series RM850X V2 PSU Fully Modular 80+ Gold
ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420mm A-RGB
MEMORY
Kingston FURY Renegade 16GB 3600MT/s DDR4 CL16 DIMM X 4 = 64GB
Just watched a few channels that say this memory wont work on my rig, appreciate any advice you or a viewer may have.
Trying to get a good case to hold a 420 AIO was a nightmare.., settled on a cooler master.
Use PC part picker website for your next build as it lets you automatically compare if parts are compatible, yes your parts will work together though.
A 7600xt has 16GB and the price is good . 1080p in all ultra settings no problem
HUH???? The price is AWFUL. Especially compared to an Intel B580
It's like 400$ here. It's apparently not powerful enough as well to use 16 GB
It cant even use the 16gb tho most of the time😂 the B580 is better rn
the price difference between ryzen 7 7800X3D and the ryzen 7 9800X3D is only 30$
Can't wait to see that 5060 come out with 8GB of VRAM. The roasting is going to be next level. 🔥
I thought it was bad enough lol. I see nvidia likes swimming in their own feces
would still add that x870 and 870e are kinda pointless unless u really insist on those usb4 ports for whatever reason
Fair point!
These videos never really make sense to me. If you're buying a brand new PC, yeah listen to the guy he has sole great advice. But it's not like previous gen systems and cards are useless all of a sudden.
Unless they're Intel 13th and 14th gen CPUs, which nobody should be buying now.
Here in europe electronics are so high price... its hard to upgrade.
Chasing the dragon with these pc builds
Hi Geeka, extremely informative video, thanks! Quick question, I recently bought the Razer Katana PSU 850W 80+ Platinum as it was a bargain of a price for my very first build, which is arriving tomorrow. After a bit of research online there are currently no reviews, so I was hoping to see if you know anything about this PSU. Thanks again!
MSI B650 does in fact have BIOS flashback and supports AM5..........Right now my favorite case is the Corsair 3500x, under $100. Air flow is not an issue at all. Not sure where that comes from.
CL 36 is fine the difference between CL30 and CL36 is like between 2 to 3% hardly any gamechanger. Id rather use my budget to towards a CPU/GPU and having a decent PSU over overspending on RAMs in particular
So you would spend another $10-20 on CPU or GPU and think you gain more than the 3% you lost by nerfing the RAM? good luck with that. I would rather just spend those extra $10-20 on the RAM.
The difference between 30 and 36 is literally like $10 tho... and you futureproof your RAM.
(Yes I hate the term "futureproof" but for only $10 is is definitely something I wouldn't downgrade on...)
What cpu would you recommend to combine with a 7900 xt? This will be my first pc build.
9800x3d, 7800x3d, Ryzen 7 7700x and non x, 7600x
@@musm3367 yup this guy is cooking good stuff.
7700x is perfectly fine. X3D cpus are expensive, for 1440p and 4K they are not worth it since you'll be GPU bound pretty much in every game. Buy X3D when you play esports titles on 1080p or if you're rich and don't care about the higher price.
@musm3367 I appreciate your help. I'll more than likely pick up 7700.
Yea avoid the x3d most those gains are only at 1080 p or lower , 2k gaming far better then 1080 esp in 2024
4060 is the most powerful efficient card, many itx systems will enjoy such a cool and efficient card.
The 7000 series is technically not last gen
9800x3d sold out everywhere unless massivly overpriced :(
I'm with new 9800X3D and that processor is a beast for Gaming Rig.
Only in 1080p
Great shout!
So with VRAM as a consideration how do people rate the RX 7600 XT as a bang for your buck graphics card. 16GB and priced at £300 right now seems pretty decent on the surface.
VRAM is overrated. Usually it's all people look at with graphics cards but clock speeds and cores are arguably more important.
@@Bannerlordfor Yeah, it's just interesting as that VRAM is always held against the 4060 but then as you say 7600XT has issues using it and seems like the 4060 Ti 16GB also does despite addressing the main criticism of the ordinary 4060.
Sounds like my list should be 6750XT, 7700XT, 7800XT up to 7900 GRE depending on how far I can stretch my budget.
Hey i have just brought kingston ram memory,interesting no one made presentation of kingston product obvious they dont need it,but we still buying they are great no need to go for corsair,gskill,t group...
We've featured plenty of Kingston DDR4 and DDR5 RAM here on the channel.... not sure what your point is...
Are x3d cpus that good? I saw that performance increase is at best 10 FPS in games compared to non x3d BUT the price differnece IS FUCKING INSANE, seriously in my country you are paying ABOUT 70% MORE FOR THE X3D VARIANT! It is fucking insane for just 10 FPS! WTF.
X3D are significantly better for gaming because of the L3 cache. Now whether the price justifies it is up to you, as you do pay ~$300 more for these CPUs but they do provide a bug performance boost.
I can see why it is hard to want to spend $600 on a CPU which is why I would recommend getting an AM4 X3D (they're like $200) if you want the boost. The only problem is that you would be on AM4 but the CPU will be good for years anyways.
Otherwise Ryzen 5 7600 and 7700 series are fine and are on AM5
Depends on games
@@johndrippergaming Insane that people want to pay 70% extra just for a few more FPS in some games.
@@Igor369 I am not 😏 and not even buy top end mobo I don't overclock 😏
Thanks for the video! I will be buying a 4060
When you looking for a GPU there are some important factors to look for below.
1. Bus Speed, 128 bit, 192 bit, 284, 384 bit.
2. VRAM Type GDDR, GDDR6, GDDR6X
3. VRAM: 2, 4, 6, 8, 12, 16, 24, 32 GDDR6x
4. Cooling Design: 1,2,3 Single, Dual, triple fans
5. Form Factor Size: mini-ATX, micro, ATX
6: Power Supply: What is the recommended power supply needed to power the GPU as well for overclocking
"No bro VRAM is all that matters"
Idk people are weird and seem to only look a VRAM
Amazon currently has a Platinum rated EVGA 1600W powersupply for 40% off. Of you can fit it its a good buy wven if over kill.
I got the build u posted for 1400$ the Ryzen 7800xt. Is that the best graphics for fps for that range of money?
no, go with the 7900 gre
Go for the 7900 gre.
I went with the 7800xt around that price range but also over spent a bit on other parts to future proof and have high quality other parts. You can go that route or 7900gre with some good quality parts too
is a 4060 ti with 16gb a good gpu to buy with a ryzen 5 7600x
depends, if you buy cheapest 4060 ti 16gb which costed around $350 might be good, but note that some of 4060 ti 16b cost MORE than a 4070, heck some version surpass 4070 super, be careful of what version you buy, cheapest 4070 is miles better than an expensive 4060 ti 16gb
No, just buy the B580 for 100$ less or a 7700xt for like 40$ more. They are both significantly better choices. If you dont mind you can also wait for the next AMD gen for the 8700xt for about the same price for the 7700xt
If you want NVIDIA just buy the 4070
If you're going with AMD the RX 6800, 7700 XT, and 7800 XT are great options.
If it's NVIDIA the RTX 4070 is a better option than the 4060TI.
If it's intel the B580 is a great alternative.
Why do people seem to not like the R 5 7600 as opposed to the R 5 7600X? Very similar performance but 7600 used less wattage..
Should i go with a r5 5600 or i5 12400f they are the same price
Am5 is not an option it's too expensive where I live
@Lesego954 i5-12400f
5600 if you’re trynna upgrade your P.C. in the future
@deucedeucerims I'll also be doing some editing and streaming so I'm leaning more towards the 12400f
Geekapc is charging 1099 pounds for a 4060 or rx7600 pc.... that almost $1400us. That is absolutely insane. You can get the same thing in the states for less than $1000 us which is like 800 pounds. man. Idk why people overvalued this stuff. Especially when people have plenty of options. You'd think sellers would want to be competitive. And geekawhat, I love you guys. I just think you're over estimating the worth of your builds
On our RTX 4060 build we make less than £200 of profit. UK sales tax (VAT) of 20% means you can't just compare part prices using the exchange rate as that fails to account for the appropriate taxes. Of course, building is always going to be cheaper than buying prebuilt. The added cost is so we can service things like insured delivery, warranty, customer support and more. It is not our aim to be cheap, it's our aim to do a good job.
Which graphic card is best for ryzen 5 5600?
rx 7700 xt, rx 6800 from AMD or rtx 3060 ti, rtx 4060
@@hanzai_keisu Hey, what abt Ryzen 7 5700x3d Which gpu suits it best ?
@KevinCosler I think rx 6800, 6800xt, 7700xt, 7800, 7800xt, 7900, 7900 gre, 7900 xt and rtx 3070, 3080, 4060, 4070, 4070 Super is a good choice.
With the CPU's why isnt the I7 12700k on the list? it cant be worse than the I3 12100f
Video audio is too low
Question for everyone in the chat, including @GeekaWhat. How do you guys feel about AMD 9700X cpu? Is it good for productivity and gaming? And if i didn't want to use an AIO water cooler, what is a suggested air cooler? Thanks in advance
It's a good CPU. Maybe a little over priced considering the performance bump vs the 7700X, but solid for productivity and gaming. :)
No wonder the ryzen 7800x3d was so expensive.
Going with a Ryzen 7 9800X3D, MSI or ASUS X870E board, RTX 4090 or 5090 (if they aren't crazy overpriced ofcourse), 64 GB of Trident Z Neo RGB with CL30 Latency at 6400 MHz, 1200W ASUS Loki Platinum (as this one was somehow cheaper than a 1000W of many others), 4TB Crucial T705 (which I got as a present for my new build) and a Watercooling system of EKWB or Alphacool, then all packed into the Lian Li O11 Vision Chrome. seems very little will be bottlenecked because of it. Upgrading from a i9 10900k with a RTX 3090 that seems to have slight damage on the VRAM and crashes many games because of it.. with DDR4 build still..
PSU is A-Sus so ofc its cheaper
@@oars_024 anything wrong with Asus Hardware? maybe I missed something?
@@cedericveder Mishandled RMAs and stuff go check out Gamers Nexus
The biggest thing on this list for me is power supply
So you shouldn’t buy the newer intel CPU’s or all intel CPU’s?
Intel CPUs are fine it's just that AMD will give your much more bang for your much in terms of gaming
if your in America buy all the parts you can cause the tariffs are coming the tariffs are coming
pls make a $1200 dollar pc build
Mate, you just saved me from making a very bad choice on cpu. Thank you 👍
I went for the ryzen 7 5700x3d over the 5 7600x with a very small price difference
Main difference being the chipset tho. In the future if you want to upgrade your CPU you'll also need a new motherboard
@@Bannerlordforand ram
Is this guy an astronaut?
I have 96GB of Corsair vengeance 5600mhz ram. Wouldn’t be better off with 64GB of 6000mhz?
Depends do you need the capacity more than speed? No point having the fastest RAM if going to end up running out of it due to projects using it all up. Are you happy with how things are performing presently? If happy with performance then changing it isn’t going to do much for you.
Yes.
AM5 is only going to 2027? I think I'll just stay on AM4 until then and get AM6. 5700x3d goes for $170 on ali express anyway.
Completely valid. Only issue is when AM6 is out it will be hella expensive. Plus you want a motherboard with updated PCIE slots too, in which case most AM4 motherboards won't
Please avoid buying motherboards that arent ASUS branded btw. The newer 13th and 14th gen CPUs have been impacted because of motherboard manufacturers not heeding the specifications set by the CPU manufacturers. The only brand that has heeded this, is ASUS. Never cheap out on a motherboard, especially when you are running high powered components. Made the mistake of buying a Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX Z790, and now I have to go to a repair shop to have my BIOs updated since its currently refusing all my attempts (most likely the USB I'm using but dont have any others to test this theory on).
will you be there at CES 2025? :D
This was very watchable for me at 0.75 speed....lol
sooo is intel 14 gen safe now (already bought it, just wanna see if I should cry or not)
update bios
Dang maybe I should return the team group 32gb 5200 ram and crucial p310…
I’ve been contemplating this and might just get 64gb 6000 ram and Samsung ssd. I’ve ran the apps I have though without any issues so far, is it REALLY REALLY worth the upgrade?
No. Just keep it in mind for the future
I will say 64 GB of ram is absolutely overkill for 99% of people. I would stick with 32 GB and save $80 - $100. Especially with DDR5 speeds 32 is enough.
I will say though 5200 is kinda slow for DDR5 tbh
@Bannerlordfor Yeah but it's not gonna be enough of a jump to justify him doing all that
@@FantomMisfit oh yeah no I agree. I would just wait for DDR6 in his case. Like I said 32 GB is honestly overkill as of now anyways.
seeing this after i bought a 7600 :
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why does everyone say the 7700 XT instead of the 7600XT, I'm selecting the parts for my new pc so plz help.
Everyone says “dont buy intel!” but when I compare the price to performance from the 14600kf to any cpu from amd, the price to performance just makes me get intel, why should i get amd when the equal performance would end up in me buying a cpu costing 100$+
Because amd cpu has better single core performance and their integrated graphics are really good.
Because the intel socket 1700 is dead, meaning there won’t be any more CPUs for it and not a good upgrade path. The AM5 still has a few more generations left so really good upgrade path.
Also when you say “compare” make sure you don’t use UserBenchamark because they are really inaccurate and very biased toward intel
@@TufoTech aight next question
Are the results meaningfully different enough for me to not only know what that means but to truly consider AMD over Intel?
Also, *which* AMD CPU has better... "niche" performance?
Not too mention significantly more power consumption...
Gen4 16solt will not be relevant for years to come. Getting the gen5 slot isn't going to be magical make gpus better, lol
@GeekaWhat Is a 6900xt or a 6950xt (or similar old gen Nvidia GPU’s) for around $350-400 better to buy than a 7800xt for around $450 2024?
7800X3D with 4070 Super, 9800X3D with 4070Ti Super or wait for 5070Ti 16GB 256 BIT.
If money is an issue I recommend getting the build now rather than later
I think the 9800x3d might be overkill for a 4070 ti super since the 7800X3D already combos really well with it and as of now (for me anyways maybe because of stock issues or shipping to my country) the 9800x3d is more expensive than the 4070 ti super so unless you're getting a 4080 super, 4090 or the new 50 series I'd just get the 7800x3d, 9700x or 7700x
@@pleb8227 What?
9800X3D= 583€
RTX4070Ti Super Asus Prime = 1046€
7800x3d and 4080super
can I buy a i5 14600k or is the problem with the voltage still there
Looking to get a new PC im on i7 GTX1070 unit would a be best to wait till end of Jan to look to purchase somthing more for Gaming and music production with photoshop
I was thinking about a new pc built with
Mother board x870
Ryzen 7 7700x
Gpu 4060
Ram 6000mh 32gb
2tb ssd.
Will this configaration be good enough or I need to change something ?
Samething , at blackfriday i got it 😊
I cannot take a video seriously when the presenter is wearing a NASA Tee shirt..
Just bought an intel core ultra 265k haha !! Proud of my purchase and will rival amd