Hey there geekawhat, Great video today. Thanks for all the work you and your team put into these videos, I feel as though you are underappreciated. You always, consistently manage to provide an entertaining but also informative video, without going too overboard on the enthusiasm. Keep it up!!
7700x is perfectly fine. X3D cpus are expensive, for 1440p and 4K they are not worth it since you'll be GPU bound pretty much in every game. Buy X3D when you play esports titles on 1080p or if you're rich and don't care about the higher price.
I think the 9800x3d might be overkill for a 4070 ti super since the 7800X3D already combos really well with it and as of now (for me anyways maybe because of stock issues or shipping to my country) the 9800x3d is more expensive than the 4070 ti super so unless you're getting a 4080 super, 4090 or the new 50 series I'd just get the 7800x3d, 9700x or 7700x
With RAM it is also important to have 2 sticks and use alternate channels to install them. 1 stick will not provide full performance, and 4 sticks are unstable in some cases.
depends, if you buy cheapest 4060 ti 16gb which costed around $350 might be good, but note that some of 4060 ti 16b cost MORE than a 4070, heck some version surpass 4070 super, be careful of what version you buy, cheapest 4070 is miles better than an expensive 4060 ti 16gb
No, just buy the B580 for 100$ less or a 7700xt for like 40$ more. They are both significantly better choices. If you dont mind you can also wait for the next AMD gen for the 8700xt for about the same price for the 7700xt
Everyone says “dont buy intel!” but when I compare the price to performance from the 14600kf to any cpu from amd, the price to performance just makes me get intel, why should i get amd when the equal performance would end up in me buying a cpu costing 100$+
Because the intel socket 1700 is dead, meaning there won’t be any more CPUs for it and not a good upgrade path. The AM5 still has a few more generations left so really good upgrade path.
@@TufoTech aight next question Are the results meaningfully different enough for me to not only know what that means but to truly consider AMD over Intel? Also, *which* AMD CPU has better... "niche" performance?
4:40 No, this is because Nvidia is better at memory compression than AMD. There are different examples where what you're saying here is true though. End of the day, you should get a card with enough memory for YOUR needs. 8gb is actually still plenty for a surprising amount of people
Number 1 Component to avoid - an Nvidia GPU. You just KNOW the 50xx series cards are going to come in at a higher price & comparably lower tier than the last gen, with insufficient VRAM to boot. The 5090 will be the huge upgrade, but the 5070 will be what the 5060 should've been, and the 5080 will be what the 5070 should've been. You know, just like the 40xx series at launch, except worse.
When you looking for a GPU there are some important factors to look for below. 1. Bus Speed, 128 bit, 192 bit, 284, 384 bit. 2. VRAM Type GDDR, GDDR6, GDDR6X 3. VRAM: 2, 4, 6, 8, 12, 16, 24, 32 GDDR6x 4. Cooling Design: 1,2,3 Single, Dual, triple fans 5. Form Factor Size: mini-ATX, micro, ATX 6: Power Supply: What is the recommended power supply needed to power the GPU as well for overclocking
CL 36 is fine the difference between CL30 and CL36 is like between 2 to 3% hardly any gamechanger. Id rather use my budget to towards a CPU/GPU and having a decent PSU over overspending on RAMs in particular
So you would spend another $10-20 on CPU or GPU and think you gain more than the 3% you lost by nerfing the RAM? good luck with that. I would rather just spend those extra $10-20 on the RAM.
@hasanshafique6758 i have 4070 and im changing cpu soon and im getting i7 14 and 32 GB and maybe in future 64 i just wanna biuld new pc from my old parts that i used and buy a gtx 1080ti
Going with a Ryzen 7 9800X3D, MSI or ASUS X870E board, RTX 4090 or 5090 (if they aren't crazy overpriced ofcourse), 64 GB of Trident Z Neo RGB with CL30 Latency at 6400 MHz, 1200W ASUS Loki Platinum (as this one was somehow cheaper than a 1000W of many others), 4TB Crucial T705 (which I got as a present for my new build) and a Watercooling system of EKWB or Alphacool, then all packed into the Lian Li O11 Vision Chrome. seems very little will be bottlenecked because of it. Upgrading from a i9 10900k with a RTX 3090 that seems to have slight damage on the VRAM and crashes many games because of it.. with DDR4 build still..
Im getting soon my b650e asus tuf gammng wi fi paring it with an 5 7500f but idk if i schould wait for nvidea 5000 ore going with an 4080 ore 4070 16gb
i say buy whats you want and can afford im not goin broke just to play games buy intel buy amd buy nvidia buy what suits your budget to say avoid intel avoid amd or nvidia is just plane stupid stop being bias an allow people to think for themselves
The intel ultra chips are getting hammered for the lack of performance gains over 14th gen while ignoring all the improvements. Intel is still the chip for anyone that uses their computer for more than gaming. WTH is up with amd idle wattage. No thanks I'll pass. Who cares if you're playing games at 115 instead of 120 fps. lol
people hate on the 4060 for no reason fair enough on release because the price was ridiculous but now it’s a reasonable affordable price there’s no reason for the hate
I'll buy nothing but Asus motherboards. They are the best mother boards out there for my use. And i really do not care about the Asus support issues. That is a US problem. I live in a country with acctual byers protection laws. So we don't have to deal with Asus. ASRock is a good number 2 tho.
Dudes never known anything but having millionaire parents. I use a 4070 12gb for 1440p to 4K low settings 60fps. What a twat, must be nice to be rolling in it and telling people to buy a 4090 to play games on their $800 4K TV.
+ Romans 10:9-10 "That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved
![Building a $900 ARC B580 Gaming PC! 👀 [Is Intel's NEW $249 GPU Worth It?!]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wQMvqgPOSxg/mqdefault.jpg)
in north american, basically need to avoid buying any electronics in 2025 due to the 46% increase in tariff, buy now if you can
Really hope orange man doesn't implement that shit right away.
@@Adrian_Franco It's set in stone already to implement in January. It's on the news
Yep, China already cut off the USA from any tech items
this whole situation reminds me of the similar one we had in uk not too long ago...
You're not smart, are you?
Hey there geekawhat,
Great video today. Thanks for all the work you and your team put into these videos, I feel as though you are underappreciated. You always, consistently manage to provide an entertaining but also informative video, without going too overboard on the enthusiasm. Keep it up!!
I love the little bit of banter, keep it up mate :D
The intel B580 makes 4060 kinda... obsolete? I don't know I need more samples for my verdict.
If they are produced enough and they provide support for old games (Won't ever happen according to DF) , then yeah
The 1% low is not good on intel your games will be lagging you will have to wait for drivers update
What cpu would you recommend to combine with a 7900 xt? This will be my first pc build.
9800x3d, 7800x3d, Ryzen 7 7700x and non x, 7600x
@@musm3367 yup this guy is cooking good stuff.
7700x is perfectly fine. X3D cpus are expensive, for 1440p and 4K they are not worth it since you'll be GPU bound pretty much in every game. Buy X3D when you play esports titles on 1080p or if you're rich and don't care about the higher price.
@musm3367 I appreciate your help. I'll more than likely pick up 7700.
Yea avoid the x3d most those gains are only at 1080 p or lower , 2k gaming far better then 1080 esp in 2024
7800X3D with 4070 Super, 9800X3D with 4070Ti Super or wait for 5070Ti 16GB 256 BIT.
If money is an issue I recommend getting the build now rather than later
I think the 9800x3d might be overkill for a 4070 ti super since the 7800X3D already combos really well with it and as of now (for me anyways maybe because of stock issues or shipping to my country) the 9800x3d is more expensive than the 4070 ti super so unless you're getting a 4080 super, 4090 or the new 50 series I'd just get the 7800x3d, 9700x or 7700x
@@pleb8227 What?
9800X3D= 583€
RTX4070Ti Super Asus Prime = 1046€
7800x3d and 4080super
With RAM it is also important to have 2 sticks and use alternate channels to install them. 1 stick will not provide full performance, and 4 sticks are unstable in some cases.
Which graphic card is best for ryzen 5 5600?
rx 7700 xt, rx 6800 from AMD or rtx 3060 ti, rtx 4060
I'm with new 9800X3D and that processor is a beast for Gaming Rig.
Only in 1080p
Should i go with a r5 5600 or i5 12400f they are the same price
Am5 is not an option it's too expensive where I live
@Lesego954 i5-12400f
5600 if you’re trynna upgrade your P.C. in the future
@deucedeucerims I'll also be doing some editing and streaming so I'm leaning more towards the 12400f
is a 4060 ti with 16gb a good gpu to buy with a ryzen 5 7600x
depends, if you buy cheapest 4060 ti 16gb which costed around $350 might be good, but note that some of 4060 ti 16b cost MORE than a 4070, heck some version surpass 4070 super, be careful of what version you buy, cheapest 4070 is miles better than an expensive 4060 ti 16gb
No, just buy the B580 for 100$ less or a 7700xt for like 40$ more. They are both significantly better choices. If you dont mind you can also wait for the next AMD gen for the 8700xt for about the same price for the 7700xt
If you want NVIDIA just buy the 4070
Everyone says “dont buy intel!” but when I compare the price to performance from the 14600kf to any cpu from amd, the price to performance just makes me get intel, why should i get amd when the equal performance would end up in me buying a cpu costing 100$+
Because amd cpu has better single core performance and their integrated graphics are really good.
Because the intel socket 1700 is dead, meaning there won’t be any more CPUs for it and not a good upgrade path. The AM5 still has a few more generations left so really good upgrade path.
Also when you say “compare” make sure you don’t use UserBenchamark because they are really inaccurate and very biased toward intel
@@TufoTech aight next question
Are the results meaningfully different enough for me to not only know what that means but to truly consider AMD over Intel?
Also, *which* AMD CPU has better... "niche" performance?
Not too mention significantly more power consumption...
4:40 No, this is because Nvidia is better at memory compression than AMD. There are different examples where what you're saying here is true though. End of the day, you should get a card with enough memory for YOUR needs. 8gb is actually still plenty for a surprising amount of people
Yes 8 GB is enough, but the price to performance is sad 😔
Number 1 Component to avoid - an Nvidia GPU.
You just KNOW the 50xx series cards are going to come in at a higher price & comparably lower tier than the last gen, with insufficient VRAM to boot.
The 5090 will be the huge upgrade, but the 5070 will be what the 5060 should've been, and the 5080 will be what the 5070 should've been.
You know, just like the 40xx series at launch, except worse.
is corsair hx1000 good now am worried about pcie5 slot
seeing this after i bought a 7600 :
((
A very nice video 😃
just bought a cl 40 6500
ram.... am i cooked?
Kinda cooked ngl
I got the build u posted for 1400$ the Ryzen 7800xt. Is that the best graphics for fps for that range of money?
no, go with the 7900 gre
Go for the 7900 gre.
Sorry to tell you i dont have any issues with my intel i9 1400
When you looking for a GPU there are some important factors to look for below.
1. Bus Speed, 128 bit, 192 bit, 284, 384 bit.
2. VRAM Type GDDR, GDDR6, GDDR6X
3. VRAM: 2, 4, 6, 8, 12, 16, 24, 32 GDDR6x
4. Cooling Design: 1,2,3 Single, Dual, triple fans
5. Form Factor Size: mini-ATX, micro, ATX
6: Power Supply: What is the recommended power supply needed to power the GPU as well for overclocking
CL 36 is fine the difference between CL30 and CL36 is like between 2 to 3% hardly any gamechanger. Id rather use my budget to towards a CPU/GPU and having a decent PSU over overspending on RAMs in particular
So you would spend another $10-20 on CPU or GPU and think you gain more than the 3% you lost by nerfing the RAM? good luck with that. I would rather just spend those extra $10-20 on the RAM.
Gen4 16solt will not be relevant for years to come. Getting the gen5 slot isn't going to be magical make gpus better, lol
Is 1080 ti and i5 10400f 16gb of ram good?
Only if u play Fortnite or csgo. Get at least 32 GB.
@hasanshafique6758 i have 4070 and im changing cpu soon and im getting i7 14 and 32 GB and maybe in future 64 i just wanna biuld new pc from my old parts that i used and buy a gtx 1080ti
@RONHDMAPPER still 16 GB is limiting. I would recommend 32 if u have budget
Going with a Ryzen 7 9800X3D, MSI or ASUS X870E board, RTX 4090 or 5090 (if they aren't crazy overpriced ofcourse), 64 GB of Trident Z Neo RGB with CL30 Latency at 6400 MHz, 1200W ASUS Loki Platinum (as this one was somehow cheaper than a 1000W of many others), 4TB Crucial T705 (which I got as a present for my new build) and a Watercooling system of EKWB or Alphacool, then all packed into the Lian Li O11 Vision Chrome. seems very little will be bottlenecked because of it. Upgrading from a i9 10900k with a RTX 3090 that seems to have slight damage on the VRAM and crashes many games because of it.. with DDR4 build still..
A 7600xt has 16GB and the price is good . 1080p in all ultra settings no problem
HUH???? The price is AWFUL. Especially compared to an Intel B580
It's like 400$ here. It's apparently not powerful enough as well to use 16 GB
It cant even use the 16gb tho most of the time😂 the B580 is better rn
If you want to be smart and efficient. DO NOT BUY INTEL AND NVIDIA. well intel gpus are fine but not the CPU
Nice try Diddy.
Intel gpu are going to be for budget people.
best is i9 12900k
Really? How about 7600/7600x? Same performance (5-10% +/-) for 25-30% less money on fresh AM5 socket that will be here longer than next Intel socket?
Im getting soon my b650e asus tuf gammng wi fi paring it with an 5 7500f but idk if i schould wait for nvidea 5000 ore going with an 4080 ore 4070 16gb
Could honestly order the 4000 series and keep it in packaging. Then try for a 5000 series and refund the 4000.
@ i migth wait til 5000 comes out then the pricec would may sink so i could go with an 4000 card
bought i5 13600k for 190 no importfees 😂
i say buy whats you want and can afford im not goin broke just to play games buy intel buy amd buy nvidia buy what suits your budget to say avoid intel avoid amd or nvidia is just plane stupid stop being bias an allow people to think for themselves
I have 32gb ddr5 ram 6000mt/s cl46😅
The intel ultra chips are getting hammered for the lack of performance gains over 14th gen while ignoring all the improvements. Intel is still the chip for anyone that uses their computer for more than gaming. WTH is up with amd idle wattage. No thanks I'll pass. Who cares if you're playing games at 115 instead of 120 fps. lol
the bots are crazy
hey geekawhat you wanna send me a 5070 ti buy any chance???????????????????
You want me to send you a card for free (no) that doesn’t actually exist? (Also no) 🤣
@@GeekaWhat can you at least try to send me like a Ryzen 6080 one? I'd really appreciate it!
people hate on the 4060 for no reason fair enough on release because the price was ridiculous but now it’s a reasonable affordable price there’s no reason for the hate
still expensive in vietnam
see the price of the 4060 8 gb vs the amd counterpart with a similar price.
Price to preformance, and now with the new intel gpus proves that point even further
Please don’t listen to bro
Fr it's not even 2025
Geekawhat please send me a ryzen 4070 super XTX😢
Bro get a job 💀
@@ThipaVR it was a joke bruh that card doesnt even exist lmao
Do you have 4070 super founders edition i can buy of you
No
@@MrAnimescrazy i wasnt asking u but ty
@Fusion2292 i am answering the question and I said no. You can check out many other places for 4070 super founders edition.
@@MrAnimescrazy where
@Fusion2292 Amazon, newegg, best buy, your local electronic stores, ebay, etc.
Perfect timing for my before bed snack
AND ..... *Only buy ASRock motherboards !* At least NEVER an ASUS one !!
Never buy anything ASUS. Horrible support
I'll buy nothing but Asus motherboards. They are the best mother boards out there for my use. And i really do not care about the Asus support issues. That is a US problem. I live in a country with acctual byers protection laws. So we don't have to deal with Asus. ASRock is a good number 2 tho.
We're not even in 2025 bro
Dudes never known anything but having millionaire parents. I use a 4070 12gb for 1440p to 4K low settings 60fps. What a twat, must be nice to be rolling in it and telling people to buy a 4090 to play games on their $800 4K TV.
Tbh if your gonna get a intel cpu you should get a 12400f at £98 it’s class
Ill show toes for a pc case or ddr5 32 gs of ram lmao hmu geekawhat
Need a mid atx I got a b650 live mixer mb hemp me out I'm still on xbox
SCREW 1080 AND 1440 !!!! 4K OR NO WAY, DO NOT EVEN BOTHER WITH A BUILD IF YOU BUY ANYTHING LESS THAN A 7900GRE !
4K is a waste of frames and money. 1440p is perfect
Youre out of touch
cant tell if this is satire or not
First
+ Romans 10:9-10 "That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved
BULLSHIT