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As someone who is going to get a new high end pc in a couple of months...yeah! Every component you can guys think of, im totally interested, RAM, Hard Drives...even cables for monitors!
Curious if there's a review coming for the new H5 Flow 2024? Looks like a promising entry-level case with support for bottom intake, but the PSU intake being flipped seems like it might interfere with the airflow.
Here's their "review" of the 9800X3D 🤣🤣 AMD’s 7800X3D and 9800X3D CPUs, priced over $400 USD, are widely marketed as “the best gaming CPUs in the world”. This is demonstrated at low resolutions with a 4090-class GPU, whilst conveniently ignoring 0.1% lows (frame drops). Under cherry-picked cache-bound conditions the X3D chips can excel, but there’s a trade-off: the additional cache results in 6% lower boost clocks and 50% to 80% higher prices than their regular counterparts (9700X and 7700X). As with their Radeon GPUs, AMD is looking to drive demand through advanced marketing rather than delivering real-world performance. While Nvidia has effectively countered AMD’s marketing in the GPU space, Intel's marketers remain asleep (terminally?) at the wheel. Nevertheless, the 13600K and 14600K still deliver almost unparalleled real-world gaming performance for around $200 USD. Spending more on a gaming CPU is often pointless, as games are normally limited by the GPU. Without significant improvements in social media marketing: forums, reddit, youtube etc., Intel now face the very real risk of bankruptcy (third worst-performing S&P500 stock from Jan to Aug 2024). Since this summary was published just two days ago, hundreds of twitter threads, thousands of “pcmasterrace” reddit posts, multiple magazine articles, and several youtube videos have emerged in unanimous support for the $480 USD 9800X3D. All of these supposedly disinterested actors are working the weekend to convince you to pay their favourite billion-dollar brand an extra $280 USD this holiday season.
@@JollyGiant19What's even better to me is looking at the review for the Ultra 9, which has maybe 2 lines about it being a bit underperforming then the rest of it is the same "get the 13600k and 14600k" and "everyone but me are sheep" copy/paste for 10 lines.
Best Overall CPU: AMD Most Balanced Price: AMD Best Gaming CPU: AMD Best Upgrade CPU: AMD Most Efficient CPU: AMD Best Mid-Range CPU: AMD Best High-End Desktop CPU: AMD Best Gaming CPU
It can't be overstated how good it felt dropping the 5700X3D into my 2019 build. I was so excited that I went ahead and upgraded my cooler and RAM at the same time, lol. Here's to another five years on AM4!
I just bought a 5700X3D and paired it with a x570 mobo and a 4070ti I bought broken for $390 total. Fixed both. So for less than $700 i got a 5700X3D, 4070ti, 2tb gen 4 nvme, 32gb ddr4 4000. BTW don't forget to undervolt your 5700X3D by around 30mv/core. You'll get more performance under load with better temps and it'll boost for longer.
For my part, I'm super grateful my R5 2600 carried me through a great couple of years of gaming, but I'm simply astonished by how much better the jump to 5700x is. Might not be an X3D cuz it was outside my budget considerations but still, I've fallen in love too, especially since my B450 board is still running great after all this time!
@@Adison19KH 5700X gang. i went from an i5-4460 to it and the difference is staggering. though in my case i went with it since the 5700X3Ds kept going out of stock when i was doing my parts shopping.
The 5700x3d really is something special for tech packrats like me. A friend of mine found himself needing a new computer (his 4790k, or more likely its motherboard, finally made its way to gaming Valhalla after a decade of honorable service) and I had a defunct homelab node made of ebay parts with a Ryzen 2700. I updated the BIOS and passed along the MOBO/CPU/RAM and told him to swap in a 5700x3d when he got a chance and now he's got a functionally brand new gaming PC where half of the components would be e-waste if AMD didn't go above and beyond their support promises for AM4.
I don't know whats the situation overseas but here in Europe(Hungary) we can buy the R5 7500f for around 160 USD, while the cheapest R5 7600 is ~200 USD. With a little tweaking the 7500f can easly come close to that performance for around 20% cheaper. Paring it with a cheap AM5 board is a really good entry to the platform and foundation for a later upgrade.
The fact that I can use a motherboard from 2017 to run a R7 5700X3D is crazy. Going from R5 3600 to this CPU doubles the framerate on some games, and not to mention the skyrocketing 1% low. As someone who isn't playing at 2k/4k monitor and is rocking a 6700XT for 1080p, I might just wait for AM6 for my next upgrade lol.
Great setup. I have a GPU heavy build with 5600x and 4070 TiSuper. 5600x is just fast enough that is hard to justify 5700x3d but am5 is too expensive to justify. I am stuck in between 😢
@@christophermullins7163 go for the 5700x3D, you wont regret it. I started at R5 3600, upgraded to R5 5600 and finally went to R7 5800X3D and the performance uplift in every upgrade was massive.
5800x3d here and I went from the 3600x, also had a 6700XT. I had that moment too where it was like "shit, I'm pulling almost 50% more frames here on some games" and just kept opening games to marvel at the frames I was suddenly getting. Was a crazy moment for sure and made the upgrade worth it 100%. You have a great combo there, I went from the 6700XT to a 7900XT and honestly the CPU upgrade was more insane because a lot of games I play are CPU heavy so the CPU upgrade had such an impact. I'm also gonna wait to AM6 I think, nothing here yet has made me wanna rush out and upgrade, and that makes me happy because I don't really have AM5 mobo, RAM and 9800x3d/7800x3d money
i have ryzen 1700 since 2017. i got rx 6700t red devil in november 2021 after my previous card died and ince then irun all games maxed 1440p 60 fps. but in those who have ray tracing iuse fsr to run them with max graphics and max ray tracing 1440p 60 fps while those who dont have ray tracing dont need fsr yet because it srill runs them maxed 1440p 60 fps
The AM4 5000X3D are still OP, matching the highest end CPUs when using upper mainstream GPUs in gaming. Incredible these parts will still be relevant for years.
That inductor dice tho! Using embedded e-waste is such a subtle nod to sustainability, which feels like a rare and thoughtful touch in the gaming world. Copper lettering with blue resin? Chef’s kiss. And let’s not overlook the custom wooden box with its latch and integrated roll tray...practicality meeting artistry. It’s clear that everything here, from dice to the packaging, has been crafted with gamers in mind. Plus, I love how this feels like a throwback to when creators poured their heart into every detail instead of churning out mass-produced stuff. Supporting this feels like backing a niche indie project with soul, and honestly, I’m here for it!
@@GamersNexusfor 4k would you buy a i9 12900k or a 7600x3d one has more cores and the other is better but in 4k it's not that much so would it be better to get the i9 so it can last me more years since it got 8 cores
@@pootsplasencia4846 If you're building a new platform for it, the 7600x3d would probably be the better starting spot. You can get the bundle from Micro Center, and it has a better future upgrade path. That said, I'm sure they'd both be fine for 4k. Neither is old enough to likely have issues in most games, so that'll mostly depend on the GPU.
100%! AMD isn't immune to doing big company things, and it will. It is important that Intel recovers, though of course it's their responsibility to do so on their own merits.
Disagree... I paid just over 1 000 $ (AUD) for I9 13900KS 2 years ago. Few days ago I paid almost 850 $ for 9800x3D. Tbh these 850$ hurt more cause I know I am not paying top price for overall best CPU cause my I9 can still run laps around 9800x3D in productivity
Upgraded from a Ryzen 5 2600X to a Ryzen 7 5700X3D just a couple months ago, super. Hoping to upgrade my GPU within the next couple months so I can keep this bad boy running for a few more years!
I did this same CPU upgrade and also jumped from a 2060 msi ventus to a 4080 super asus tuf, went from 2x8 2666 mhz cas 16 ram to 2x16 3600 mhz cas 18 ram and from an asus prime a320 motherboard to an asus tuf b550 plus ii. And to top it all, went from a benq zowie TN panel 27 inch 144 hz full hd monitor to a samsung odyssey g8 OLED 34 inch 175hz 4k one... I'm still waiting on some pieces to arribe and BOY the anxiety is killing me, this is my most high end pc ever. I also believe I probably won't even touch am5
My new 13600K for $150, with a used Z690 and 64GB DDR4 for $90 was the best upgrade ever. I had to drive 3 hours for each, though (Facebook Marketplace).
At this point the 5700X3D will out last my need to upgrade to AM5, but the 9800X3D is insane and could change my mind in a few years. AM4 though is fantastic for home labs, even when buying used. Ryzen 3000 & 5000 still never blink an eye at the small and big tasks I throw at them.
I agree. Most people are on mainstream GPUs that all three 5000X3D parts can easily max out. They should be more than relevant in the mainstream gaming space until AM6, possibly even longer.
@@jondySauce man i just upgraded from a 5600x to a 5700x3d and to be honest, i now get the hype for x3d chips, the stability it gives you over non x3d chips is crazy, i used to have a lot of micro stutters and worse 1% lows with my 5600x now its butter smooth, love it
I'd really love to get my hands on a 7800 or 9800x3d, but the prices over here in germany are just insane. 470-480 for the 7800, 540 for the 9800x3d. Sure I lose some peformance, but I decided to upgrade from 8600K to 9700x. That chip is 200€ less and still has good performance overall in gaming & productivity. Still happy about all your work you guys are doing, especially excited about the cases guide!
The 7500F is amaxing for the price, but the fact that is an OEM part that you have to buy practically used makes it not fiting for many categories, sadly. Maybe efficient, but there are parts that give much more performance using a little more power.
@@slayrx because is OEM, it hasn't and official price, so you won't see it winning budget king. It's really efficient, but the 7800X3D consumes a little more and performs a lot better, so you won't see it win efficiency. It's not the best performer, so it won't win that either, and so on. It's a value dream, but it's condemned to be underrated because the weird of it's nature, like the 7600X and other CPUs.
I really appreciate that you guys look as use cases beyond gaming. It makes finding components for balanced systems that little bit easier, and I am very grateful for that!
I'm happy with my 13600K but I do sometimes wish I got the 7800X3D instead. It was nearly the same price when I bought my parts and I think I probably would end up getting more out of it than the 13600K since it's still good for stuff like video editing, just not nearly as good. Definitely would be nice to have a cooler system and less stress about the melting issues...
This is the 1st time I’ve ever owned featured parts of a current end-of-year “best of” style showcase with the 7950x and it makes me at least Feel like I’m not broke.
Got myself a r5 7500f in China. It's the best entry level CPU in my opinion because it's an AM5 with good value. I can upgrade in the future in case I need more performance.
I was waiting for this video all year, glad it’s here!!! I was able to get an 9800X3D for MSRP on Amazon yesterday, and it’s already sold out! I can’t wait for it to get here!!
Been rocking AM5 with a 7950x3d on x670e and some solid memory, and I don't think I've ever loved a build I've done as much as this one. With the changes to the 9000 x3d series, I'm really excited to see the headroom with the 9950x3d in terms of overclocking in my custom loop. Might actually do a single generation upgrade for the first time ever if numbers look good (will put the 7950x3d to other use). As a former intel fan for ease of overclocking in the larger nanometer architecture days, AMD has been crushing it lately
AMD used to be on-par with Intel on performance, just using more power to do so. That were the reviews over the years and apparently they took that personal and absolutely demolished Intel this year.
Just bought a 5700x3d of Alliexpress from a reputable seller for $140 with shipping and tax. Definitely an insane buy to stay on AM4 till either AM6 or a future AM5 Upgrade.
I'm on a 10850k and it's weird: in my head it still feels "new". Would love to go crazy on an AMD system now, but given the prices around here, I really can't do that rationally lol.
@@bmwofboganville456 wtf??? are u insane. you would probably doube your fps in some games. i went from an 11900k to 7800x3D and my fps trippled in 1080p on MMOs
A pity that the 9950X3D is too late, that CPU would definitely win one of the categories. The best CPU's are quite predictable, the 9800X3D for gaming, Threadripper for production, Intel 14th gen for budget, Ryzen (out of the box the 7800X3D and the 7950X3D but you can take any of those CPU's and set a lower powertarget) for efficiency.
The 7950x3d wasn’t tested but remains one of the best choices, for gaming and office. Afaik it can mostly beat or equal the 7800x3d when properly configured, and is a beast for office/rendering stuff.
I was very happy to pick up a 5700x3d for £180 earlier this year, its given me the time needed to watch what the 9000 series was going to do and as I game at higher resolutions I'm not in a real hurry
My next upgradre will be cpu ram and motherboard but ihavent deicded when iw ill do it yet because while i have ryzen 1700 since 2017 it still loads evrything in 1 second(windows, internet, games, movies/series). and also runs all games maxed 1440p 60 fps. Mine pc is RYZEN 7 1700 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 RX 6700XT 12 GB RED DEVIL MP 600 2TB WRITE:4950MB/S READ:4250MB/S DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS But if i decide to do it soon then the best choise from price and perfomance is a X870 motherboard with ryzen 9700x and 32GB DD5 6400MHZ. Total price is 815 eur os in my country(with cpu cooler too at 55 euros).
I went from an i7 9800x to a 5800x3d. Don't ask me why I had that horrible cpu, I didn't know what I was doing back then. Extremely happy with the upgrade
Just bought a new PC (not prebuilt) with the 7600X and already looking forward to upgrading the CPU eventually without having to buy new everything else
I'm keeping AM4 for atleast another 4-5 years. Going to switch to a 5700x3d ... just need 300 dollars first. Then go with a different GPU. The RX590 has served me very well.
I've had 9800X3D for 5 days now and it's been just absolutely superb. Upgraded from 5950X and the difference is amazing. I think this will last me years.
I'll be using my 5800X3D for years. For the games I play either they are GPU limited or the only ones that would benefit from an upgrade...are ones that love X3D and I only have the 7800X3D/9800X3D as upgrades. My brother recently had a far more significant upgrade, as he's gone from an i7 3770S (with stock cooler) with 16GB DDR3 1600 to my old; 3700X, Noctua NH-12S and 32GB DDR4 3200. In Cinebench R15 the multithreaded performance gain was 310%. Definitely shouldn't bottleneck his GTX 1070. He has said outright that *everything* runs far better.
Thanks for the video guys! In case anyone is busy/on the go and needs a "can't/didn't watch" list (I wrote it for my girlfriend): Best Overall: 9800X3D (480 USD) Best Balanced (Gaming, Workstation, Price, Efficiency): 7950X (480 USD), runner-up 14900K (440 USD) Best Gaming: 9800X3D Best Upgrade: 5700X3D (AM4, 230 USD), runner-up 14700K (LGA1700, 350 USD) Most Efficient: 7600X3D (300 USD) Best Mid-Range: 12700KF (< 200 USD) Best High-End Desktop: Threadripper 7970X Best Gaming Under $100: 5600, 13100F, 12100F Biggest Disappointment: Intel 13th/14th gen stability issues
As someone still running an i7-8700k im curious if you guys still plan on doing a revisting video like you mentioned some months ago. Im still going back forth about upgrading but even with all the charts and testing showing how much possibly better the new cpus are, i FEEL like im still getting really good performance out of it even if i may be throttling my 3090 a slight bit. So im curious how it compares
Hey Steve, i've read on reddit about you heklping a guy out who couldnt get help from Asus and his broken 4090, you are a great guy, thank you for helping him the way you did. Now on less serious stuff, how is 9950X3D looking? im planning on buing a whole new pc once the Nvidia 5000 series are out, and i was debating in between 9800X3D and the 9950, do you guys have any spoiler you may have heard? Thabks a lot! love your content guys!!! :)
Haha, I saw that post! I'm glad they finally helped him after that email. Sounds like he was stuck in RMA turmoil for a while. Can't help all the emails that come through, but I try to get the ones I see. Not sure about the 9950X3D! No news yet. There have been rumors and leaks, but no firm news. AMD is rumored to have a lot of announcements for CES, which is in January, so maybe something will come out then.
@@GamersNexus Thanks for your reply sir! I hope you guys know that many, many people support and love what you do, keep up the good work! Im so excited for CES! my budget for the next Gaming PC will be around 6-7k So i cant wait to see what will be shown there :)
MMORPGs, like FF14 or WoW, are often limited in their core count usage. So clockspeed is very often a major factor here, as those games also tend to be more leaned towards the CPU than the GPU, due to high individual Character count. Famous example for this is WoW, that ran on a single thread for many many years, causing confusion on many players when they upgraded their rig, but had less performance, due to their new CPU having more threads, but less clock speed. I am not even sure anymore when they addressed this and added dual-core support, but i think it was added around like 2010/11.
9800x3d even holds his own in productivity. I'm guessing this would be enough if i primarily game but want to dabble in some video editing sometimes. thanks Steve.
What’s the use of being the best when you aren’t available? Moving forward, I don’t think any PC part manufacturer will be able to fully deal with the demand whenever a new product comes out. This has become the new normal.
Out of curiosity, why not the 7950X3D for most balanced CPU? It is *slightly* less power hungry than a 7950X and gets most of the productivity performance while having better gaming performance when you use game bar to set “remember this as a game” and reboot to have core parking work properly. That is a bit of a setup, and I know there can be tinkering involved, but my point is more was there a specific reason for the 7950X over the 7950X3D? Or was that tinkering the specific reason? Great video as always though GN team!
I personally would have been interested in a 'best APU/ best gaming CPU with integrated graphics' category For potentially getting a really cheap starter build for kids etc
The Intel Core Ultra 9 285K has: - 2nd place in the Blender benchmark - 1st place in the 7-Zip Compression benchmark - 1st place in the Adobe Premiere benchmark - 2nd place in the Starfield benchmark Honestly, it feels like a really good productivity CPU and an okay gaming one, not top of the charts, but will handle whatever you throw at it decently. I wonder if this is a case of it being priced horribly that ruins it for the consumers, I remember when Ryzen 5 4500 came out everyone was up in arms about how you had better options for 130 USD, but I picked it up for 80 EUR years later and it's been worth it. Realistically I'm sticking with AM4 for a while longer and probably am getting a Ryzen 7 5700X to replace my current one, but I wonder how much cheaper the Core Ultra series would have to get to be worth it, at like 75% of the price they'd probably be good.
I upgraded from a 2700 to a 5700x3d (which I got for 200 a couple months ago). Pretty pleased with that upgrade, even if the BIOS upgrade process was a bit jank.
I absolutely love my 5800x3d. I'm really hoping I can keep this AM4 build until AM6 tbh, nothing has jumped out at me yet that would really convince me, even the 9800x3d is pulling maybe 30-40fps more here, sometimes less than that, with 1% lows not that much better either. It's not enough yet to justify an upgrade IMO but I've always been a kind of mid range guy, if you want the best of the best it seems a great upgrade
Really wish the 9800X3D was in stock up here in Canada land... At time of writing this comment there is ONE on Amazon for... ~$1200 CAD. For reference conversion of the MSRP puts the 9800X3D at around $650, and it's on back-order with Bestbuy for $670.
For your case reviews: will an Arctic LF 2/3 fit in the roof? Length of radiators is not an issue, but with VRMs becoming more massive, the clearance is suspect. 5 builds using corsairs carbide air 540, Fractal North and King 95 all have roof mounting clearance issues. While the North is elegant, just that bit too small. Likewise, the King 95 has amazing build quality, but I was forced to side mount my LF3. Maybe it's my fan set up, but no noise and great cooling. 2x120 floor mounted, 1 rear exhaust, 1 left side top exhaust and 280 LF3 side mounted. I place more emphasis on looks than you do as my PC sits where I can (must) look at it. In a crowded price point, how a product looks assumes greater importance, especially when build quality and thermals are reasonably close. You made the dice sets 60 years too late. My former board gaming friends are either dead or live hundreds of miles away. I did pick up a solder mat and plan to finish several WWII dioramas (a few of the models are older than you are lol). Many of my new PC gaming friends have X3D CPUs on their wish list. For ~510-530 I easily recommend the PowerColor HellHound GRE, but suggest waiting to see what AMD will offer next year in a similar price point. Instead of trying to enable RT, buy a 4K TV if pretty is at the top of your want list. Mine is the Hisense 55U8G.
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Definitely want to see how far you can push the new Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE Black CPU Air Cooler. It's a 7 Heat Pipes CPU Cooler with Dual 120mm PWM Fans, AGHP 4.0 Technology, and it's for AM4/AM5&Intel 1851/1700/1150/1151/1200.
Thermalright water coolers are of big interest, though I know you're probably talking about air coolers
As someone who is going to get a new high end pc in a couple of months...yeah! Every component you can guys think of, im totally interested, RAM, Hard Drives...even cables for monitors!
Laptop CPUs
Curious if there's a review coming for the new H5 Flow 2024? Looks like a promising entry-level case with support for bottom intake, but the PSU intake being flipped seems like it might interfere with the airflow.
Userbenchmark: You took everything from me!
9800X3D: I don't even know who you are
Here's their "review" of the 9800X3D 🤣🤣
AMD’s 7800X3D and 9800X3D CPUs, priced over $400 USD, are widely marketed as “the best gaming CPUs in the world”. This is demonstrated at low resolutions with a 4090-class GPU, whilst conveniently ignoring 0.1% lows (frame drops). Under cherry-picked cache-bound conditions the X3D chips can excel, but there’s a trade-off: the additional cache results in 6% lower boost clocks and 50% to 80% higher prices than their regular counterparts (9700X and 7700X). As with their Radeon GPUs, AMD is looking to drive demand through advanced marketing rather than delivering real-world performance. While Nvidia has effectively countered AMD’s marketing in the GPU space, Intel's marketers remain asleep (terminally?) at the wheel. Nevertheless, the 13600K and 14600K still deliver almost unparalleled real-world gaming performance for around $200 USD. Spending more on a gaming CPU is often pointless, as games are normally limited by the GPU. Without significant improvements in social media marketing: forums, reddit, youtube etc., Intel now face the very real risk of bankruptcy (third worst-performing S&P500 stock from Jan to Aug 2024). Since this summary was published just two days ago, hundreds of twitter threads, thousands of “pcmasterrace” reddit posts, multiple magazine articles, and several youtube videos have emerged in unanimous support for the $480 USD 9800X3D. All of these supposedly disinterested actors are working the weekend to convince you to pay their favourite billion-dollar brand an extra $280 USD this holiday season.
@@JollyGiant19 holy I knew it was gonna be schizo but I didn't realize the depth of this dude schizoness
Has anyone ever figured out who CPUPro is/what AMD did to them?
@@JollyGiant19What's even better to me is looking at the review for the Ultra 9, which has maybe 2 lines about it being a bit underperforming then the rest of it is the same "get the 13600k and 14600k" and "everyone but me are sheep" copy/paste for 10 lines.
@@theftking AMD ran over their dog like every CPU release i am starting to think.
It's to the point now that "Stability" needs to be considered when making a CPU purchase, too.
And that even goes for the new 200 series! We had some issues out of the box with those.
@@GamersNexus Yes. And 13th/14th gen has proven that you can't even always trust the stuff that initially seems stable and reliable.
Honestly. Was lookin at making a "spare parts" pc for the gf's aging laptop, and was honestly lookin at a 12600kf for value/reliability.
We used to be just worried about DOA, now we're adding DANU (Dead After Normal Use) to the list of worries as well.
@jimtekkit Can we switch that to DAMU? (Moderate use) DAMU Intel.
I know the best overall gaming CPU is the 9800X3D and the 7800X3D and I haven’t even watched the whole video yet
I'm from tomorrow and I also know the answer.
Im from yesterday nn i also knew the answer
I knew the answer since the 5800X3D.
I thought the 285k had a chance. 🤡
@@aflury In your dreams.
5800x3D gang still holding AM4 torch 💪
Still handles anything and everything currently :D
5800X3D was succeeded well by the 5700X3D, but the 5800X3D will remain the GOAT for what it did for AM4!
@@GamersNexusThanks, Steve. 🗿🗿🗿
I used a low end amd fx 4350 for 9 years… you’ll be fine… well WE’LL be fine cause I have a 5700x3d that I plan on using for awhile.
5800x3D represent 🙋
Best Overall CPU: AMD
Most Balanced Price: AMD
Best Gaming CPU: AMD
Best Upgrade CPU: AMD
Most Efficient CPU: AMD
Best Mid-Range CPU: AMD
Best High-End Desktop CPU: AMD
Best Gaming CPU
"Neanderthal marketing by AMD paying off to shill TH-camrs" -UserBencmarck looser 🤓
Should have "Most likely to avoid honoring warranty" and put everything Intel makes on that list.
Midrange CPU went to Intel lol
Mid-range and under-$100 went to intel
@@yakumoyukari4405 LoserBenchmark Losers. The Loser part has to be emphasized!
It can't be overstated how good it felt dropping the 5700X3D into my 2019 build. I was so excited that I went ahead and upgraded my cooler and RAM at the same time, lol. Here's to another five years on AM4!
Should last a while longer yet!
Definitely sitting on my AM4 til 27' ish. Curious to see how Zen 6 shapes out and ddr6.
another 5 years? jesus. thats abit pushing it lmao
consoooooom
I just bought a 5700X3D and paired it with a x570 mobo and a 4070ti I bought broken for $390 total. Fixed both.
So for less than $700 i got a 5700X3D, 4070ti, 2tb gen 4 nvme, 32gb ddr4 4000.
BTW don't forget to undervolt your 5700X3D by around 30mv/core. You'll get more performance under load with better temps and it'll boost for longer.
I love my 5700x3d. Really gave my rig a ton more life, the old 3700x was on the struggle bus
That's a great upgrade! Good way to keep it alive a while longer. How long do you think you'll use it?
For my part, I'm super grateful my R5 2600 carried me through a great couple of years of gaming, but I'm simply astonished by how much better the jump to 5700x is. Might not be an X3D cuz it was outside my budget considerations but still, I've fallen in love too, especially since my B450 board is still running great after all this time!
2700x to 5700x3d was insane. I saw like a 2x frame increase. If only the GPU upgrade were as affordable!
Personally I will keep using it until it stops doing 60fs at 1440p, only gpu upgrades till then@@GamersNexus
@@Adison19KH 5700X gang. i went from an i5-4460 to it and the difference is staggering. though in my case i went with it since the 5700X3Ds kept going out of stock when i was doing my parts shopping.
The 5700x3d really is something special for tech packrats like me. A friend of mine found himself needing a new computer (his 4790k, or more likely its motherboard, finally made its way to gaming Valhalla after a decade of honorable service) and I had a defunct homelab node made of ebay parts with a Ryzen 2700. I updated the BIOS and passed along the MOBO/CPU/RAM and told him to swap in a 5700x3d when he got a chance and now he's got a functionally brand new gaming PC where half of the components would be e-waste if AMD didn't go above and beyond their support promises for AM4.
wtf is a tech packrat lmao
@@Snxgur just another term for hoarder
I don't know whats the situation overseas but here in Europe(Hungary) we can buy the R5 7500f for around 160 USD, while the cheapest R5 7600 is ~200 USD. With a little tweaking the 7500f can easly come close to that performance for around 20% cheaper. Paring it with a cheap AM5 board is a really good entry to the platform and foundation for a later upgrade.
The fact that I can use a motherboard from 2017 to run a R7 5700X3D is crazy. Going from R5 3600 to this CPU doubles the framerate on some games, and not to mention the skyrocketing 1% low. As someone who isn't playing at 2k/4k monitor and is rocking a 6700XT for 1080p, I might just wait for AM6 for my next upgrade lol.
Great setup. I have a GPU heavy build with 5600x and 4070 TiSuper. 5600x is just fast enough that is hard to justify 5700x3d but am5 is too expensive to justify. I am stuck in between 😢
@@christophermullins7163 go for the 5700x3D, you wont regret it. I started at R5 3600, upgraded to R5 5600 and finally went to R7 5800X3D and the performance uplift in every upgrade was massive.
dude I'm almost the exact same situation, next upgrade will be generational and likely only in 2029
5800x3d here and I went from the 3600x, also had a 6700XT. I had that moment too where it was like "shit, I'm pulling almost 50% more frames here on some games" and just kept opening games to marvel at the frames I was suddenly getting. Was a crazy moment for sure and made the upgrade worth it 100%. You have a great combo there, I went from the 6700XT to a 7900XT and honestly the CPU upgrade was more insane because a lot of games I play are CPU heavy so the CPU upgrade had such an impact.
I'm also gonna wait to AM6 I think, nothing here yet has made me wanna rush out and upgrade, and that makes me happy because I don't really have AM5 mobo, RAM and 9800x3d/7800x3d money
i have ryzen 1700 since 2017. i got rx 6700t red devil in november 2021 after my previous card died and ince then irun all games maxed 1440p 60 fps. but in those who have ray tracing iuse fsr to run them with max graphics and max ray tracing 1440p 60 fps while those who dont have ray tracing dont need fsr yet because it srill runs them maxed 1440p 60 fps
GN over here releasing a video right away to get our minds off the disappointing Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson fight.
hahaha, was it that bad?!
@@GamersNexus Jake being accused of elder abuse 😅
@@GamersNexusyeah; even the announcers said there was disappointment in the air after the fight.
It was just boring yeah, nothing really hgappened
@@engineerlife8175 ooooof. That's... disappointing.
The AM4 5000X3D are still OP, matching the highest end CPUs when using upper mainstream GPUs in gaming. Incredible these parts will still be relevant for years.
That inductor dice tho! Using embedded e-waste is such a subtle nod to sustainability, which feels like a rare and thoughtful touch in the gaming world. Copper lettering with blue resin? Chef’s kiss. And let’s not overlook the custom wooden box with its latch and integrated roll tray...practicality meeting artistry. It’s clear that everything here, from dice to the packaging, has been crafted with gamers in mind.
Plus, I love how this feels like a throwback to when creators poured their heart into every detail instead of churning out mass-produced stuff. Supporting this feels like backing a niche indie project with soul, and honestly, I’m here for it!
That is a very kind writeup -- especially at the end. We worked hard on it for months! Thank you.
It’s insane how AMD is wiping the floor with Intel.
Same with nvidia and AMD.
It’s not good for the consumer. Healthy competition is needed.
We all know he's being paid by amd
Intel is better
COPE
It's incredible that 5800x3d is still on top of the gaming charts glad to have bought one a year ago, and it incredible how it prices has not dropped
The amount of work you put in is amazing! Thank you Steve
The whole team! And thank you for supporting it!
@@GamersNexusfor 4k would you buy a i9 12900k or a 7600x3d one has more cores and the other is better but in 4k it's not that much so would it be better to get the i9 so it can last me more years since it got 8 cores
@@pootsplasencia4846 If you're building a new platform for it, the 7600x3d would probably be the better starting spot. You can get the bundle from Micro Center, and it has a better future upgrade path.
That said, I'm sure they'd both be fine for 4k. Neither is old enough to likely have issues in most games, so that'll mostly depend on the GPU.
We all know he's being paid by amd
Intel is better
COPE
Going from an almost 7 year old 8700k to a 7600x3d for Christmas
5800x3D feels like the 1080ti of CPUs 😂 I love how mine has held up especially for the price
We need Intel comeback or we will suffer of high prices from AMD
100%! AMD isn't immune to doing big company things, and it will. It is important that Intel recovers, though of course it's their responsibility to do so on their own merits.
most people here would disagree with you
Disagree... I paid just over 1 000 $ (AUD) for I9 13900KS 2 years ago.
Few days ago I paid almost 850 $ for 9800x3D.
Tbh these 850$ hurt more cause I know I am not paying top price for overall best CPU cause my I9 can still run laps around 9800x3D in productivity
@@Need4FPS why did you buy the 9800x3d then?
Get ARM.
Upgraded from a Ryzen 5 2600X to a Ryzen 7 5700X3D just a couple months ago, super. Hoping to upgrade my GPU within the next couple months so I can keep this bad boy running for a few more years!
if you’re playing in 1440p or 4K you’re good to go for years to come
I did this same CPU upgrade and also jumped from a 2060 msi ventus to a 4080 super asus tuf, went from 2x8 2666 mhz cas 16 ram to 2x16 3600 mhz cas 18 ram and from an asus prime a320 motherboard to an asus tuf b550 plus ii. And to top it all, went from a benq zowie TN panel 27 inch 144 hz full hd monitor to a samsung odyssey g8 OLED 34 inch 175hz 4k one... I'm still waiting on some pieces to arribe and BOY the anxiety is killing me, this is my most high end pc ever. I also believe I probably won't even touch am5
a special thanks to Mr Burke and his hard-working team for another year of roundup and excellent work , it's been a really wild year.
Upgraded from an R5 5500 to the R7 5700X3D, I haven't got the PC completely ready yet but I hope it's a decent upgrade.
That's a killer upgrade!
Couldn't believe how much grunt the 5700x3d gave me over my old 2600. Absolutely monsterous upgrade for how the power it sips to do it!
My favorite new category is 'Doesn't Burst Into Flames'
My new 13600K for $150, with a used Z690 and 64GB DDR4 for $90 was the best upgrade ever. I had to drive 3 hours for each, though (Facebook Marketplace).
Is it safe to buy a 13600 or 14600 because of oxidation?
Great categories and recommendations. It's really easy to just laud the fastest processor, but you really have something for everybody here.
At this point the 5700X3D will out last my need to upgrade to AM5, but the 9800X3D is insane and could change my mind in a few years. AM4 though is fantastic for home labs, even when buying used. Ryzen 3000 & 5000 still never blink an eye at the small and big tasks I throw at them.
Ha! Outlasting to AM6 would be crazy!
I have a 5600X and I'm so tempted to upgrade to an X3D of some sort. But the games I'm playing right now don't really seem to need it
I agree. Most people are on mainstream GPUs that all three 5000X3D parts can easily max out. They should be more than relevant in the mainstream gaming space until AM6, possibly even longer.
@@jondySauce man i just upgraded from a 5600x to a 5700x3d and to be honest, i now get the hype for x3d chips, the stability it gives you over non x3d chips is crazy, i used to have a lot of micro stutters and worse 1% lows with my 5600x now its butter smooth, love it
7500F > 7600 in value imo
I'd really love to get my hands on a 7800 or 9800x3d, but the prices over here in germany are just insane.
470-480 for the 7800, 540 for the 9800x3d.
Sure I lose some peformance, but I decided to upgrade from 8600K to 9700x. That chip is 200€ less and still has good performance overall in gaming & productivity.
Still happy about all your work you guys are doing, especially excited about the cases guide!
do not purchase a non X3D chip if you plan on gaming. seriously. i made that mistake and couldbnt believe what i was missing out on
One of the rare channels I can watch in normal speed. I have to speed up video playback for most other channels.
Sure, these high end CPUs sound cool and all, but I couldn't be happier with my 7500f at 1440p.
It is fantastic and not overpriced
Balanced builds are based 😊
Will probably build something new next year with a 7600 for my 3440x1440p display.
The 7500F is amaxing for the price, but the fact that is an OEM part that you have to buy practically used makes it not fiting for many categories, sadly. Maybe efficient, but there are parts that give much more performance using a little more power.
@@Just_An_Ignacio No idea what you mean by that.
Got mine for 160€ with VAT, insane Price to Performance, almost unmatched.
@@slayrx because is OEM, it hasn't and official price, so you won't see it winning budget king. It's really efficient, but the 7800X3D consumes a little more and performs a lot better, so you won't see it win efficiency. It's not the best performer, so it won't win that either, and so on.
It's a value dream, but it's condemned to be underrated because the weird of it's nature, like the 7600X and other CPUs.
The disappointment build is gonna be spoiled for choice on the cpu front this year, can't wait!
At least the 9800x3d came out to save the 2024 cpu launches considering all the disappointing crap that came out.
It really did come in clutch at the end here.
We all know he's being paid by amd
Intel is better
COPE
Just finished flashing the bios on my 870 board for my new 9800X3D! Doing an all white build with a 4080 super.
tech jesus has descended upon us to show us the best cpu picks.
and i love it.
I really appreciate that you guys look as use cases beyond gaming. It makes finding components for balanced systems that little bit easier, and I am very grateful for that!
I'm happy with my 13600K but I do sometimes wish I got the 7800X3D instead. It was nearly the same price when I bought my parts and I think I probably would end up getting more out of it than the 13600K since it's still good for stuff like video editing, just not nearly as good. Definitely would be nice to have a cooler system and less stress about the melting issues...
Is it a good option to buy now even with the oxidation problem?
Thanks for this.. I am wanting to do a new build and was just wondering where to go with my CPU.. Well now I know!!
This is the 1st time I’ve ever owned featured parts of a current end-of-year “best of” style showcase with the 7950x and it makes me at least Feel like I’m not broke.
How on the other side of the world have I managed to see this 1 minute after release (Australian)
It's probably middle of the day in AUS right now, whereas it's middle of the night in the US lol
@ yeah it’s early evening right now
@@fledintegral2859 2:20 AM here. Damn insomnia
Me waking up in Sweden: ohh time to fry some egg and bacon, this is going to be good 😋
Got myself a r5 7500f in China. It's the best entry level CPU in my opinion because it's an AM5 with good value. I can upgrade in the future in case I need more performance.
I was waiting for this video all year, glad it’s here!!! I was able to get an 9800X3D for MSRP on Amazon yesterday, and it’s already sold out! I can’t wait for it to get here!!
Did you make these kind of video for graphics cards as well
We all know what's winning Best Gaming and Overall. Though right now hoping to snag some Used CPUs with people upgrading
Aliexpress $120 5700X3D siblings rise up
"There is always room to suck more" LOL.
Been rocking AM5 with a 7950x3d on x670e and some solid memory, and I don't think I've ever loved a build I've done as much as this one. With the changes to the 9000 x3d series, I'm really excited to see the headroom with the 9950x3d in terms of overclocking in my custom loop. Might actually do a single generation upgrade for the first time ever if numbers look good (will put the 7950x3d to other use). As a former intel fan for ease of overclocking in the larger nanometer architecture days, AMD has been crushing it lately
I love how you still add the 5800X3D into the charts. Another Steve out there could learn from that.
AMD used to be on-par with Intel on performance, just using more power to do so. That were the reviews over the years and apparently they took that personal and absolutely demolished Intel this year.
Basically an AMD clean sweep. Except for biggest disappointment... congratulations Intel!
Segments please, we love you Steve.
I went from a 2600 to a 5700x3d. I'm so glad I picked one up. It's like a new machine.
A 7600 will do fine for now, x3d can come later when needed.
7700x3d my dream
Just got a 7600x for £159 . Seems like a great choice at its current price
Just bought a 5700x3d of Alliexpress from a reputable seller for $140 with shipping and tax. Definitely an insane buy to stay on AM4 till either AM6 or a future AM5 Upgrade.
9800x3D is still a gigantic upgrade over the 5700x3D tho, dont act like it was a gigantic gain this generation lol
I'm out here still running a i9-9900k in my intel rig. New AMD rig is currently in the works.. which was previously a Ryzen 7 3800x. Good times..
9900k still games like entry level CPU today at least. Would push a 3080 at 1440p
I'm on a 10850k and it's weird: in my head it still feels "new". Would love to go crazy on an AMD system now, but given the prices around here, I really can't do that rationally lol.
9800 or 7800x3D will give you insane performance with ddr5 compared to ur crap i9 lol
@@SnxgurNo it wouldn't
@@bmwofboganville456 wtf??? are u insane. you would probably doube your fps in some games. i went from an 11900k to 7800x3D and my fps trippled in 1080p on MMOs
A pity that the 9950X3D is too late, that CPU would definitely win one of the categories. The best CPU's are quite predictable, the 9800X3D for gaming, Threadripper for production, Intel 14th gen for budget, Ryzen (out of the box the 7800X3D and the 7950X3D but you can take any of those CPU's and set a lower powertarget) for efficiency.
5700X3D price/value champion was a good choice to buy. It has power.
especially how dirt cheap am4 and ddr4 is..
@@s4yto dirt cheap because the performances reflects. ddr4 for gaming in 2024 is not a smart buy
As a resident of the UK, I approve this video drop time! Thanks Steve
The 7950x3d wasn’t tested but remains one of the best choices, for gaming and office. Afaik it can mostly beat or equal the 7800x3d when properly configured, and is a beast for office/rendering stuff.
I was very happy to pick up a 5700x3d for £180 earlier this year, its given me the time needed to watch what the 9000 series was going to do and as I game at higher resolutions I'm not in a real hurry
How about also a chart showing pricing trends of each CPU over the years? Btw how many months / years before a CPU is 50% or less of its intro SRP?
My next upgradre will be cpu ram and motherboard but ihavent deicded when iw ill do it yet because while i have ryzen 1700 since 2017 it still loads evrything in 1 second(windows, internet, games, movies/series). and also runs all games maxed 1440p 60 fps.
Mine pc is
RYZEN 7 1700
16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15
RX 6700XT 12 GB RED DEVIL
MP 600 2TB WRITE:4950MB/S READ:4250MB/S
DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS
But if i decide to do it soon then the best choise from price and perfomance is a X870 motherboard with ryzen 9700x and 32GB DD5 6400MHZ. Total price is 815 eur os in my country(with cpu cooler too at 55 euros).
I went from an i7 9800x to a 5800x3d. Don't ask me why I had that horrible cpu, I didn't know what I was doing back then. Extremely happy with the upgrade
Just bought a new PC (not prebuilt) with the 7600X and already looking forward to upgrading the CPU eventually without having to buy new everything else
9950x3D may become a real special CPU if it doesnt become the 800-1000$ cpu again. 9800x3D is quite the award winner :D
I'm keeping AM4 for atleast another 4-5 years. Going to switch to a 5700x3d ... just need 300 dollars first. Then go with a different GPU. The RX590 has served me very well.
Thanks for giving us your ideas and the results of your experiments. It really helps us. 👍
That 5700X3D looking pretty good today at $180. I don't have time to drive to Indianapolis and pick it up tomorrow.
on sale for $130 on aliexpress right now.
I LOVE my 5950x!!! Upgraded from a 5600X about 2 days ago
why did u purchase a 5950x in 2024 may i ask?...
Quantity vs. quality and the driver of video sponsors and views can be a good subject for one more video.
Pretty recently went from FX-6350 to a R5 5600G. And I honestly think I'll be more than happy with it for the rest of the decade :D
I've had 9800X3D for 5 days now and it's been just absolutely superb. Upgraded from 5950X and the difference is amazing. I think this will last me years.
I'll be using my 5800X3D for years. For the games I play either they are GPU limited or the only ones that would benefit from an upgrade...are ones that love X3D and I only have the 7800X3D/9800X3D as upgrades.
My brother recently had a far more significant upgrade, as he's gone from an i7 3770S (with stock cooler) with 16GB DDR3 1600 to my old; 3700X, Noctua NH-12S and 32GB DDR4 3200. In Cinebench R15 the multithreaded performance gain was 310%. Definitely shouldn't bottleneck his GTX 1070. He has said outright that *everything* runs far better.
dear @AMD can we have a Threadripper with 3d v-cache.... before GTA 6?
I am pretty sure they could do it, but would you buy it in rl to justify their investment?
Thanks for the video guys!
In case anyone is busy/on the go and needs a "can't/didn't watch" list (I wrote it for my girlfriend):
Best Overall: 9800X3D (480 USD)
Best Balanced (Gaming, Workstation, Price, Efficiency): 7950X (480 USD), runner-up 14900K (440 USD)
Best Gaming: 9800X3D
Best Upgrade: 5700X3D (AM4, 230 USD), runner-up 14700K (LGA1700, 350 USD)
Most Efficient: 7600X3D (300 USD)
Best Mid-Range: 12700KF (< 200 USD)
Best High-End Desktop: Threadripper 7970X
Best Gaming Under $100: 5600, 13100F, 12100F
Biggest Disappointment: Intel 13th/14th gen stability issues
Great video, as always. It's a bit deflating, the results...but it helps me be very happy with my 7800X3D, likely for years to come.
Thank you for providing us with some great data. Thanks Steve & GN team
As someone still running an i7-8700k im curious if you guys still plan on doing a revisting video like you mentioned some months ago. Im still going back forth about upgrading but even with all the charts and testing showing how much possibly better the new cpus are, i FEEL like im still getting really good performance out of it even if i may be throttling my 3090 a slight bit. So im curious how it compares
i'm still running an i5 :) there is actually nothing wrong with it, needs lots of ram and a fast drive but it does everything
i can promise you. your 8700k is not good performance compared to an X3D ryzen 7 lmao
Hey Steve, i've read on reddit about you heklping a guy out who couldnt get help from Asus and his broken 4090, you are a great guy, thank you for helping him the way you did.
Now on less serious stuff, how is 9950X3D looking? im planning on buing a whole new pc once the Nvidia 5000 series are out, and i was debating in between 9800X3D and the 9950, do you guys have any spoiler you may have heard?
Thabks a lot! love your content guys!!! :)
Haha, I saw that post! I'm glad they finally helped him after that email. Sounds like he was stuck in RMA turmoil for a while. Can't help all the emails that come through, but I try to get the ones I see.
Not sure about the 9950X3D! No news yet. There have been rumors and leaks, but no firm news. AMD is rumored to have a lot of announcements for CES, which is in January, so maybe something will come out then.
@@GamersNexus Thanks for your reply sir! I hope you guys know that many, many people support and love what you do, keep up the good work!
Im so excited for CES! my budget for the next Gaming PC will be around 6-7k So i cant wait to see what will be shown there :)
MMORPGs, like FF14 or WoW, are often limited in their core count usage. So clockspeed is very often a major factor here, as those games also tend to be more leaned towards the CPU than the GPU, due to high individual Character count.
Famous example for this is WoW, that ran on a single thread for many many years, causing confusion on many players when they upgraded their rig, but had less performance, due to their new CPU having more threads, but less clock speed.
I am not even sure anymore when they addressed this and added dual-core support, but i think it was added around like 2010/11.
Great review, and love your Equivalent Gaming Performance Chart.
9800x3d even holds his own in productivity. I'm guessing this would be enough if i primarily game but want to dabble in some video editing sometimes. thanks Steve.
Great video. Still makes me happy to have gotten the 5800X3D and see it still keeping pace
Planning to upgrade from an i3 8100 (a CPU without hyperthreading) to a 9800X3D around Christmas.
I'm gonna be entering a whole different dimension
The 7500f is a hidden budget banger if you can find it, it's basically the AM5 7600 with without an iGPU at a 50 buck discount.
What’s the use of being the best when you aren’t available? Moving forward, I don’t think any PC part manufacturer will be able to fully deal with the demand whenever a new product comes out. This has become the new normal.
Out of curiosity, why not the 7950X3D for most balanced CPU?
It is *slightly* less power hungry than a 7950X and gets most of the productivity performance while having better gaming performance when you use game bar to set “remember this as a game” and reboot to have core parking work properly.
That is a bit of a setup, and I know there can be tinkering involved, but my point is more was there a specific reason for the 7950X over the 7950X3D? Or was that tinkering the specific reason? Great video as always though GN team!
I personally would have been interested in a 'best APU/ best gaming CPU with integrated graphics' category
For potentially getting a really cheap starter build for kids etc
Happy to be awake to catch this juicy video.
Very glad that my newly bought 9800X3D tops as the CPU of the Year. Now waiting to upgrade my 4090 to 5090.
The Intel Core Ultra 9 285K has:
- 2nd place in the Blender benchmark
- 1st place in the 7-Zip Compression benchmark
- 1st place in the Adobe Premiere benchmark
- 2nd place in the Starfield benchmark
Honestly, it feels like a really good productivity CPU and an okay gaming one, not top of the charts, but will handle whatever you throw at it decently.
I wonder if this is a case of it being priced horribly that ruins it for the consumers, I remember when Ryzen 5 4500 came out everyone was up in arms about how you had better options for 130 USD, but I picked it up for 80 EUR years later and it's been worth it.
Realistically I'm sticking with AM4 for a while longer and probably am getting a Ryzen 7 5700X to replace my current one, but I wonder how much cheaper the Core Ultra series would have to get to be worth it, at like 75% of the price they'd probably be good.
the core ultra is utter trash lmfao
lookin forward to the case roundup
13600k gang, think it will be good for some more years
you really should of purchased a 5800x3D instead damn. intel just gets blown so hard in gaming by amd x3d
I upgraded from a 2700 to a 5700x3d (which I got for 200 a couple months ago). Pretty pleased with that upgrade, even if the BIOS upgrade process was a bit jank.
I absolutely love my 5800x3d. I'm really hoping I can keep this AM4 build until AM6 tbh, nothing has jumped out at me yet that would really convince me, even the 9800x3d is pulling maybe 30-40fps more here, sometimes less than that, with 1% lows not that much better either.
It's not enough yet to justify an upgrade IMO but I've always been a kind of mid range guy, if you want the best of the best it seems a great upgrade
am5 is a gigantic upgrade over 5800x3d, dont downplay it
Every video, Steve gets one step closer to being John Romero.
Really wish the 9800X3D was in stock up here in Canada land... At time of writing this comment there is ONE on Amazon for... ~$1200 CAD. For reference conversion of the MSRP puts the 9800X3D at around $650, and it's on back-order with Bestbuy for $670.
For your case reviews: will an Arctic LF 2/3 fit in the roof? Length of radiators is not an issue, but with VRMs becoming more massive, the clearance is suspect. 5 builds using corsairs carbide air 540, Fractal North and King 95 all have roof mounting clearance issues. While the North is elegant, just that bit too small. Likewise, the King 95 has amazing build quality, but I was forced to side mount my LF3. Maybe it's my fan set up, but no noise and great cooling. 2x120 floor mounted, 1 rear exhaust, 1 left side top exhaust and 280 LF3 side mounted. I place more emphasis on looks than you do as my PC sits where I can (must) look at it. In a crowded price point, how a product looks assumes greater importance, especially when build quality and thermals are reasonably close.
You made the dice sets 60 years too late. My former board gaming friends are either dead or live hundreds of miles away. I did pick up a solder mat and plan to finish several WWII dioramas (a few of the models are older than you are lol). Many of my new PC gaming friends have X3D CPUs on their wish list. For ~510-530 I easily recommend the PowerColor HellHound GRE, but suggest waiting to see what AMD will offer next year in a similar price point. Instead of trying to enable RT, buy a 4K TV if pretty is at the top of your want list. Mine is the Hisense 55U8G.
About a month ago, I bought FOUR R5-5600s. Not only did I pay less than $100USD, I paid less than $100CAD (for each of them of course)!
I got me a Ryzen 5 5500 upgrade 2 months ago, the 5600 in my country cost 175 dollars. I got my 5500 for 85 dollars.