MK8 VW GOLF : Detailed, HONEST, accurate REVIEW
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Since making this video I have discovered that the Slovakian chap who made the critical "cost cutting" video runs a business which enables functions on a wide range of VW Group cars. I have also found out that VW Group with the Mk8 etc are now controlling this sort of thing via the new 'Function on Demand' feature which means the dealer and only the dealer will be allowed to unlock functions effectively putting people who do this unofficially out of business. Make of that what you will.
Well after the first impressions video clocked up 15 minutes, it's no real surprise we got to 42 mins with this non-sponsored full review! This is way beyond what I am normally happy with but new generations of Golf don't come along all that often so grab a drink, sit back and enjoy!
Before you do, may I suggest we all look at the bigger picture and not focus on the negatives without considering all the positives that the Mk8 brings. Whether this is seen as a net gain is down to you but I share my personal professional opinion which of course may differ from yours. This opinion has been formed from 26 years of driving VWs, 23 years of writing about for them for magazines and 18 years of buying and selling them as my (very) full time job.
If you are going to comment, then please try and watch the whole video first or at least the summary right at the end and consider that I too was negative before I experienced the car and doing that may also change your perspective if you haven't yet.
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Judging by the comments, clearly a lot of people haven't watched right to the end where I summarise that yes some things have gone down but others have gone up too. I can't deny there are some negatives but we need to look at the bigger picture - wireless charging and wireless Apple Car Play for example make life a lot easier and are free on this Style model (Audi charge extra for it), trick ambient lighting, digital climate control for rear passengers etc etc.
In response to this video, an industry professional has been in touch and confirmed that exposed door barrels are coming back because, as I suggested, it's to ensure access to the car is possible if the electronic opening process fails, not cost cutting. The suggestion it's to save money is ridiculous anyway because manufacturing a cap with a hole drilled in it is more expensive than one that doesn't need drilling.
As for the pull down locker being deleted being due to cost cutting, as I suggested the space behind it might be in use by electronics now but on reflection, the most like cause is that this isn't a rehashed Mk7.5 dash, it's a completely new dash so nothing has been deleted as such, it's a completely different installation. The locker wasn't carried over a) to reinforce the fact this is a new dash in a largely all new car AND b) to add to the clean minimalist uncluttered look of the rest of the dash. Many Audis do not have this locker and this won't be due to lack of interior budget.
I've kept learning things since I signed this off earlier today! The rear climate controls can be disabled, this is why they didn't work. If you play around with the digital instrument cluster configuration, you can get notice when the car is in 2 cylinder mode or coasting (interestingly it calls 'engine off altogether' and 'engine at idle with gearbox disconnected' both coasting).
To be clear, the car doesn't use braking to harvest energy like an EV, it uses engine braking to do this, i.e. the alternator is driven by the crank when the engine is off and the car is rolling. A lot of people for some reason think the Mk8 doesn't have paint under the bonnet but this appears to be untrue (unlike with Mk7 which is grey primer under bonnet). I didn't want to mention it as until I see a different colour car I can't be sure they aren't all white under the bonnet.
The exposed bolt heads on the door only visible when open are common to the Mk7.5 and are not new to the Mk8 (contrary to what the editor of a leading weekly car magazine tweeted recently).
Apart from using the paddles, there is no manual mode on DSG with the new style shifter. I suspect like type 992 Porsche 911, Mk8 GTI/R will incorporate an additional button marked M to be able to select this.
It has paint, however it is a Matt finish, and like I said before no gas strut for the bonnet,
Like I said before 2 x bonnet catches, having had to buy these parts, I can tell you a bonnet catch costs more.
Good on you Andrew for following up. I was interested about the transition into M mode. So using the paddles does it default back into D after a while of not touching them ?
@@volkswizard New Skoda Octavia has telescopic struts and two bonnet catches.
@@mattyboy8270 Well maybe it's a design things then or pedestrian crash protection. The bonnet does something funny when a pedestrian is hit so without telescopic struts permanently attached it might be able to do something else. It's never as simple as just "cost cutting"
That you for the video, very informative! I have one question (or two) if you wouldn't mind! Is there still a button or some way to switch the DSG to manual mode or does it have to be activated by using the paddles? Does it then go back to auto on its own after some time? Reason I am asking is I currently own a 2018 Golf R DSG which I drive in manual mode exclusively and the lack of a proper shift lever has me worried that I may find myself losing some control over the DSG due to the new design. Thanks!
Thanks Andrew, I have a 1.5 Style DSG 150 ps on order which was ordered about 5 months ago. Delivery has slipped fro 1st Sep tp 3 week in Oct...we will see! However I was thinking should I go for another brand and model but your great ,honest review has persuaded me to stay with my order. Our other car is a Golf 66 reg 2.0 TDI 150 ps DSG Match model which we both love to drive with only 25k miles on the clock and it drives like a dream so no way was I accepting a £9500 part ex price with our vw dealer. BTW We Buy any Car have recently offered me £11750 for it and we have decided we love it so much we are keeping it. Well done for a great review and I have now subscribed. ps your comment about the Korean key batteries failing is so true. We are on our third but that is my only complaint with the car.
Just picked up my 1.5 etsi style which took 6 months
Another solid and thorough review Volks.
In summary....(my views only)
Pro’s of MK8: Fuel economy
Cons on MK8: Literally everything else
I can get 53 mpg on my 1.4 TSI Mk7 already, and it’s great on fuel
Forza223 Bowe MK7 = Good. MK8 = Bad.
@@fxkraft1037 Larger panel gaps to aid ventilation when the air con packs up.
Hi there! Wow I’m impressed how well you show all the things. I really like that. M name is Tom, I’m 48, I’ve got mk5 2006 tsi match 110ph. Planning buy golf 8 about end of February. Still I’m not sure what version should I buy, of course financial aspect is most important. Btw can you spend couple of minutes and tell me what different is between Life version and Active? Because I thing about those two. I guess after a long investigation life is a basic and active more rich in features. I would focus about “winter pack” I mean heated windscreen( I can past that), heated seats( I love to have it), ambient lighting ( I would have this changing in interior but is not end of the world if is only 10 modes if I’m right). What do you think would I feel any different jump from 1,6 110 ph to 1.0L tsi, I don’t know- 130-150? Smaller engine but faster? I’m not so friendly with all of that. I don’t need super fast Gti etc. I would take something minimum the same or slightly stronger. I’m generally doing max 4K per year. Work shop ones in the year going from Kent up to the mountains. That’s it. So think about white, manual, petrol, about 2020. Please let me know any suggestions what should I keep in
Mind. Greetings from Kent, Tom.
Great video Andrew, probably your best to date. By far the best review of a mk8 and it’s a car you really have to learn and view from VW’s logical if complicated train of thought to really understand. I honestly don’t sense much cost saving, I just see new solutions - most of these more expensive (2 bonnet catches, engineered drink holder). You even get half a battery cover on an 8 to shut up the 7.5 fraternity 😂😂 Wearing a VR6 T shirt in an e-TSI forced a wry smile 👍
Good review Volkswizard. Ive just bought a late 7.5 GT Edition Wagon, 1.5 Tsi. I did look at the mk8s side by side but on first impressions I think the 7.5 pips it on the interior fit and finish. I understand tech sells cars and touch screens and buttons are on trend. I suppose the trade off is that they can add or omit options through software now instead of physical trim pieces and buttons. Looks-wise they have grown on me a lot, but still think the 7.5 looks slightly better.
Thanks for the informative review. I ordered a Mk 8 1.5 150 Style having looked at the A3 (Aug/Sep 21). In price terms I thought that the Mk 8 was better value for money with newer tech. I've also ordered the Head Up Display and would be interested to see a review on that option. I initially ordered the IQ Lights but that was one option too far on the spec - you might as well hop up to the Audi. So price wise, I thought it was the better proposition. For me, I started my motoring in a Mk 1 CL(?) then had a lot of un in the Mk 1 GTI Campaign and then on to a Mk 2. So a good many years later I fin myself in a Mk 8 :-)
Great review, lots of detail and no dramas. Just bought an 8 Tsi 150 and now don't have to look at the instruction manual.
Is this a keyless model you have? I bought one recently and the keyless works only after touching the handle twice to open. Are you having the same situation?
A great review Andrew, thanks! Very comprehensive. Do the touch-controls work with gloves? If so, that'll keep those smudges at bay. I'm a lot more convinced after seeing this.
A great review, thanks. Seen too many reviewers shouting hello Volkswagen and didn’t seem interested in getting to know the new system. I have a 7.5 and having test drove the MK8 I’m impressed a lot more in the ergonomics of this new model. Found myself having to look down at the screen to much on the 7.5. The dash setup feels roomier to me also on the MK8.
Interesting video - I'd watched that video from the "serious Eastern European Guy" before & good to hear another "take" on that.
However, I really do not like some aspects of that interior very much - I can't help thinking that a lot of it IS down to price. VW Golf owners tend to be conservative (with a small "C" ), my parents, for example, have had a Mk7 & a Mk7.5 Golf. They're both in their 70s & I really can't see them getting to grips with the digital interior.
As for myself, I love the ambient lighting - I wish my 7.5 had that! Having said that, I'd miss the climate control buttons - they just shout "quality" & are pretty intuitive to use. That slider just looks cheap. As someone who's never linked their phone (& doesn't intend to), that stuff just goes right over my head!
Glove box? I'd just buy a rubber mat, like you said....
The styling? It's fine, I'd get used to the front end - the performance Golf 8s will look good, I'm sure!
That bonnet stay would really irritate me though😂.
One thing I read somewhere is that I think the upgraded audio is by Harmon Kardon & not Dynaudio? I love the Dynaudio system - it was in my old & current Golf & I wonder if anyone has tried the HK system yet?
Verdict: great video, on the car: not sure. But, I didn't like the Mk7 when it was new & I ended up owning a 7 & a 7.5.....
Congrats on hitting 20k subscribers, by the way👍👍
Thank you a great review. I drive the style 2.0 diesel auto which I have had three months. 60mpg without even trying, and more. Awesome car best Golf I have ever driven. I love the auto dip head lights, and the connected nature that interacts with the nav system. So smart. I love the cruise control, which even works perfect in a traffic jam, if you have an automatic gearbox, and stops and starts as required. I wish I had opted for a factory fitted rear camera, I paid for a retrofit, which is the same, but more expensive afterwards , it seamlessly integrates with the info system. So good this car, I absolutely love everything about it
Good to hear some positive feedback - Golf 8 has been very controversial but when it works, it's a great car
Thanks for a brilliant and honest review. I think to many people have jumped to conclusions with this car without actually seeing one. To many people have been very quick to accuse VW of cost cutting and pointing out things that are not on the car but have completely ignored all the extras that they have put on.
Thanks Cjbx11 and thanks for your comment. If you've seen my other videos, I am not afraid to criticise VW but I'll save that for Mk8 when/if reliability is proven to not be as good as we expect, which we'll find out in a few years.
Thanks for a very helpful review. Had an original 7 for 7 years which I loved. Replaced it with a 7.5 which was destroyed in a flood at 130 miles! Now considering an 8.
The Start/Stop function on the Mk8.. was there a button to disable that? or was it through a sub menu on the screen?
Just fucking tablets everywhere. I hate that look. I also hate the body lines. Sad to see mk7 style gone
One thing you didn’t mention was the reflection of the dash grill on the windscreen in strong sunlight which is quite irritating. Also on my loan car there is a speed related noise coming from the passenger side which sounds like a grommet is missing and allowing wind to come into the cockpit. The adaptive cruise control has a mind of its own and assumes you want to travel everywhere at the speed limit rather than the one you have previously set. I keep this functionality switched off. Otherwise its a car that grows on you as you appreciate it’s talents.
Thank you Andrew. That was a very thorough and candid review. I also love the old school T. If I needed or wanted a new car, I’m sure I would buy the new Mk8. I bought a 2019 R two months ago. It was pretty much my dream car, given the circumstances of my life and finances.
Sterling review Andrew, I thoroughly enjoyed every second of this extended and extensive look at the mark 8. As is often the case, an in the flesh and behind the wheel experience can result in different feelings than the initial online images, articles and video reviews deliver. I can see how the many pros balance out some of the cons. As always, most things deliver subjective views. If I’d listened to all the negativity about the T-Rocs hard plastics I’d not have parted with my up! GTI for an R-Line. In truth, how often do you touch the dash, it is solid and well built and the tech on the R-Line, plus the extra options I have, make it a great car for our needs. One final thing, more extended reviews like these please. As a big fan of yours, extended content like this is very welcome (time permitting to film of course). Thanks again, keep safe and well.
I love my new VW mk8 GTD. I don't even mind the lack of buttons and I am even starting to get on with the haptic buttons. However, the software is very buggy and becoming an annoyance, I commute around 80 miles every day so need these systems to work. Here are my issues...
1. Sometimes speed limits are read in Kilometres per hour and not Miles per hour or vice versa; the car either accelerates quickly above the speed limit or slams the brakes on to slow down,
2. When the nav zooms in to show lane details on the motorway the lines start to float and nav info is lost on the display, very weird.
3. Sometimes my phone and apple car play connect and sometimes it dose not, this happens when connected by wifi or by the usb cable, today even after re-booting that load icon kept spinning around, I couldn't even select an alternative phone?
4. Sometimes when selecting the climate system it gives no options to change temp, alter settings etc. You have to stop and reboot which may take several tries.
5. There is no option to deactivate lane assist, I have to do this every time I start the car, I only want this on when using ACC,
6. When it works the voice recognition is great, but this is very hit and miss!
Has anyone one else had similar issues? What did you do?. I suspect I'll need to call the dealer and hope there's a software fix / update available. This is a great car and it is a shame that VW aloud a car to reach the market with some many bugs! Any help or advice appreciated.
has the dealer fixed it?
@@paradox5556 Thank you for your reply. Yes fixed for the most part, a software update and a new steering wheel resolved most of the issues. I am still waiting for the software updates for #1 kilometres -vs- miles which is still intermittent and still had an odd issue with #4 and the need to reboot. Service due soon so will ask about the software updates again then. Hopefully these issues are fixed on newer cars.
Where is knob or equivalent to adjust air distribution finely between, say windscreen and feet or anywhere in between. I just twiddle my knob in my MK7?
That’s a fantastic review pal! You saw my comment on your last video saying “I want to like it” but this video has made my decision. Even know I still prefer the Mk 7.5 in looks, the Mk8 is definitely a great improvement with the tech. Cost cutting I wouldn’t say is a major issue, at least you can still control the climate control really easily unlike on any of the Tesla models where you have to go into the infotainment to adjust anything. People just need time to adapt to the future. At least if it’s built into the infotainment it is less likely for anything to go faulty. Fantastic review mate, I can’t believe you have less than 20k subscribers yet your content is better than most.
A very good review and pleased to see that you have analysed some of the so called criticisms. I have been (am) waiting for the GTi but much of what you have covered is very useful to me. As they have been delayed (I'm in NZ so you will see it first) I have also looked seriously at a Merc A250 and am about to drive one. Very very impressed with what I've seen (and I know they are not directly comparible) so it will be an interesting decision in a couple of months. One of the drivers for me is I don't like small motors'so 2 litres is one of the criteria. Ergonomics are very comparible and both very smart. Thanks again!
Compared to my T-Roc and prevoius Golfs the ride is much better, the DSG box changes earlier giving a smooth power take off.
You either like VW's or you don't, there's no mid ground, I'm pretty happy with my Style, the only want is folding mirrors as standard and a reversing camera but they are extra.
In my job I drive all makes and models, pound for pound this isn't a bad motor, would I have a better mark if I had the cash, well no thanks, having bigger or better costs more to run and they brake down, have a look at the roadside, you dont see many Golfs waiting for the tow truck!
A good review, as always an honest one!
You’re spot on.You are either a fan of vws or you’re not.
Good review!
That engine-off coasting function, can that be turned off? I prefer feel of engine braking rather than “coasting” when off the accelerator.
How did you find the responses in give and take/cut and thrust situations where any hesitation or delay in engine response/gear selection can be annoying?
Also, the various display configurations, are there driver configurable presets and does the car “know” which driver is using the car so brings up their preferences automatically? Shared car use could be a pain otherwise.
Hey Adrian, I am sure it can but I think the mild hybrid system might be using the rotation of the engine with it off to harvest energy so I never felt it was running away with itself like it does in my Leon with engine at idle and DSG box in neutral (coasting)
The bottom line: i will stay with my skoda kamiq 1.5 litre(style, 2020).
My 2021 Volkswagen tiguan is not at that category so i will keep it anyway.
Thank you. Beautiful review.
Oh and I had the chance to buy a new mk8 or buy the mk7.5 Gti performance pack and the latter was a no brainier. In fact having looked at the mk8 Gti pictures and videos, I think that Gti 8 looks even more hideous than the standard Mk8. Unless it significantly grows on me which if being honest has been the case with golfs in the past, I think they will do a face lift fairly quickly so no point in investing on mk8 right now. By the way good job on all your videos, been binging on them the past few days! Let me know when you want to sell your TCR!!!😜
An absolutely brilliant review, Andrew. Many thanks. It will certainly be interesting to see the GTi and R variants and their enhancements. I think you were very impressed with the variable saloon lighting!!! All bes wishes, Andrew. 👍🏼
Thanks Ian! I like the lights because it's great to see new tech in cars so quickly, generally cars lag behind everything else but with Mk8 you can feel that all the tech has only just become affordable enough and we were luck this has come about just as a new gen Golf has been launched as a year earlier and we might have missed it.
Great vid as always, in your opinion this engine...... or the 2.0 TDi 150......purely judged on which is the nicest to drive ?
Only thing that bugs me is the speedo screen is smaller than the 7.5 and surrounded by too much piano black plastic. Looks tacky at that level. I’m not a fan of how much is in my 7.5 let alone the 8. Good review though.
Great video, for me I think it's the headlights that are causing all the fuss over the face. The outer lights have gone upwards since the mk3 and now they're upside down
Thanks for all the info. I liked all the points you explaimed. I did subscribe. However I have one complaint. With all of the camera movement when walking from car to I was getting motion sickness.
Great vid gonna pick my life 1.5tsi on 4th August but notice the wing mirrors didn't electrically fold in when you push the key..
That's true David, no sign of folding function on switch so assume that's been made optional.
@@volkswizard so manual fold by hand or adjust settings on centre display
Mine didnt either when i picked it up, i could switch it on in the settings tho
Sounds like a really good car with money spent in the right areas. I'm not surprised you like the engine, I've owned a few 1.4TSi's and the engine is great, especially in the Leon with DSG. I get 50mpg without trying, mid 60's with a good run and keeping it below 60mph. The money I save buying the petrol model outweighs any fuel saving (diesel is more expensive to buy, then there's adblue...) Anyway, really enjoyed your review, you covered all the things I wanted to know. One thing though, how many Car wow suitcases fit in the boot? 😉
Excellent review. Love the side by side comparisons. Also love the ‘Joe Public’ viewpoint in all your reviews. Enough detail for the car anoraks but also concise enough for the more casual viewer (me).
Much appreciated John, glad you enjoyed!
This has been the best in depth review i´ve seen so far. It takes a while to get warm with this new Golf. Now that i´ve seen some modified Golf 8, i really like it. I´m looking forward for the GTI and R Models.
Thanks, glad you've enjoyed. New R line looks so much better than Mk7 R so things are looking good 👍
I like having the latest and greatest technology in cars but the digital cockpit will age really fast vs regular dials. And why does every manufacturer is removing knobs/buttons? Love the mk7/7.5 Mk8 is very disappointing especially in the looks department.
Thanks for commenting. I am a bit confused how dials are going to not look old when the whole world is going digital? At least with the virtual displays you can update and customise them. Take watches for example, nobody wears an analogue watch to look modern but they do have a certain charm, not sure people want 'charm' in a modern car's dashboard though.
@@volkswizard _nobody wears an analogue watch to look modern_ - I do and I know quite a lot of people who do too. Not everything what is digital is automatically amazing. Changing the volume or the temperature or the fan speed in a car via a touchscreen is one of the worst ideas.
In my life I have owned some VW (mark II and mark IV).
Moved to bmw because of the tricky cheaty board computer on VW, instead of getting my Mark VI I have got my serie 1with RW driving and actually I'm very happy with BMW.
Note: On my mark 2 the digital panel locked on 277 km/h at 202 000 km and I had to replace the car.
Because as screen prices drop it becomes cheaper to replace mechanical parts with digital displays and they are easier to install.
Good informative review. This was on my watch list for my new car later this year however I really think the new Skoda Octavia interior looks far nicer than the Golf.
Is the wireless CarPlay reliable. If you navigate with it and stream music/podcast and wireless charge does it get hot to the point of uncomfortable to pickup? Thanks
Just ordered a golf 8 so delighted with how in depth the video is and the details highlighted.
Thanks Ross. Hopefully your later car will be free of any little bugs. There's a lot of Mk8 GTI content on this channel which should also be relevant so do check that out too 👍
Good review. Made points not mentioned elsewhere. You have the 6+1 speakers, not the harman kardon... is the quality OK? No mid range boom, any bass present? Clear highs? Not having to fiddle with the bass/mid/treble settings for every tune? No reviews of that loudspeaker setup to be found anywhere. No miracles expected of course. Did you try the Harman Kardon? Hope you can answer.
Bought a 2017 Kia Ceed last year to replace my 2008 Jetta .
Had it two months and hated it. Replaced with mk7 Golf. Far superior in every respect and saw a Golf 8 in the metal the other day and looks so much better than the pictures say.
Nick I have one of the earliest right hand drive golf 8 a Life 1.5TSI in moonstone grey it is really stunning to drive dare I say better than the 7.5 I had before and the finish is very high quality not like some reviews lead you to believe
Daniel Russell Am pleased, that’s the case then
The bezel of the screens are too thick but you know they did that to make them thinner in the facelift 8.5
I think you’ve hit on part of what makes me not like the cabin, the huge bezels. The screens look semi dated already and I don’t think will age well.
The facelift will be here within a few months, I can’t see many warming to the deign
Useful insight. Thanks.
The exposed key ‘ole will be infinitely more practical when actually needed.
The bonnet strut will never need replacing.
So, both are good.
But, no lined glovebox - quelle horreur!
And in time, the touch controls will seem dated and slow to respond - just the same as the touch response of a when-new iPhone 8 seemed speedy, compared to an iPhone 11 it now seems annoyingly slow.
Looking forward to the 8.5 update - hopefully it won’t have upside-down headlights :-/
I saw two mark 8s at my dealer in March before lockdown. One was black and the other a bright orange/yellow metallic. I would not go for that exact colour, but I thought the design suited a bright colour more. I will definitely consider a mark 8 when my 7.5 GTI PP lease ends in exactly one year from now. Thanks for the in-depth review, really helpful.
Thanks John for the sensible comment and feedback 👍
Fantasic video and review Andrew 👍 Until I see one in the flesh i’m still to be convinced about the styling, the front view looking a bit like a Toyota Auris. I do like the radical redesign of the interior, however clearly visible finger prints on stuff would drive me crazy (the same for all makes not just VW). Also you mentioned you didnt get any reflections off the info screens, but what about all that black gloss? To me it looks cheap and would be far too distracting for me with all the reflections off that. It may seem like nitpicking, but in order to live with a car the view you see most as a driver (the interior) has to be conducive.
Thanks 👍Trust me David, I was driving the car on very sunny days and there was nothing annoying about the screen and surrounds. This isn't a surprise as VW will have taken steps to prevent this. They also all work with polarized glasses on which isn't the case with the head up displays I've used.
Very informative review! Thank you! We here in the US for some reason don't like base hatch cars, so we will only be getting the performance GTI and R. Looking forward to the review of the GTI. It's a car I would most likely get, if anything in the new lineup. Thanks again! Safe driving, but not too much!
Really enjoyed this thorough review, unlike some other reviews which, as you highlight totally missed the relevant points. Test drove the same model myself and convinced me to order the new MK8 R-line, whilst currently owning a MK 7 R-line for the past four years. Really hoping you get to do a review of the R-line. Subscribed now, so won't miss a thing. Keep up with the great reviews 👍
Best review I have seen of the 8 so far. Still not decided on if I like it more than the 7.5 but I’m very eager to see what the GTI and R models look and perform like in the real world 🙏 (I still love my mk5 GTI though but hey!)
Hey Alex, glad you enjoyed it. Mk8 is good but Mk5 GTI rocks 🤘
Mk5 for the win 🔥😁
Cheers Andrew for making an enjoyable informative video of the mk8, really enjoyed it 👍
I hate to say it as I wasnt a huge fan of the new golf when it was first released but .... its slowly growing on me 🤔 still got my Golf Sv 7.5 for another two years yet so who knows maybe it might be replaced with a mk8 when the time comes . 👍
I've picked up a 1 year old eTSI 1.0L Life with panoramic roof, 17" alloys and some other extras for a good price. It has the Lime Yellow paint too in the estate guise. I'm hoping to see slightly better MPG than you got. I realise there's a power difference but I've just sold a BMW i3 and I needed something more tame to calm me down :P
Great review. Has the holder for sunglasses gone also? Would you change from the 150bhp diesel to this engine?
My dealer told me the MK8 was designed for the far east markets, hence the looks as that's where they will sell more. He also didn't like it and thought VW are straying away from how we all like a Golf to look like. The missing bonnet struts is a disappointment for a car that's gone up in price. I'll be keeping my MK 7.5 R, much prefer the looks and interior to this.
Fair enough Dean but a missing bonnet strut the average owner may never touch which was probably removed so the bonnet is free to move in an accident with a pedestrian not due to cost is made up for by so much else, free wireless CarPlay and wireless charging, 30 colour ambient lighting, 3 zone climate control with digital controls for rear passengers, engineered air vents not to mention 2 not 1 bonnet catches.
volkswizard great review, but I think VW missed the mark when it comes to the VW community. Only time will tell if they can match the sells numbers of previous years. In my humble opinion, I think it’s going to bomb out. Also, as for wireless Apple carplay the sound quality sucks!
If you didn’t know the MK8 was the newer model and were given the choice of mk7.5 and 8 with both in front of you, same colour etc...I’m sure most would pick the mk7.5.
The mk 7.5 is a gti
Did you get the opportunity to test the headlights? If so i would value your thoughts. Plus how was the car from a squeaks and rattles point of view, this has put me of changing my current MK6 to some modern options (my test drive of the MK8 is next week so looking forwards to this). Well done for taking the time to produce this useful video.
Thanks Tim! No, being June I didn't get to try the lights but rest assured they will be good as VW are making a big fuss about them, even the standard lights. The ones on this car are standard LED but still have the 'IQ' sign inside them, there is an upgrade to matrix LED which I'd go for as these are very cool. Audi have used them for a while and can switch off only bits of the main beam that blind drivers and leave the rest on the road. See my RS3 spec video from late 2018 for demo of that. No rattles at all, tight as a drum, not to be taken for granted on an early car. Let's hope it stays like this on stiffer spring cars
20:08 The wiper on my Mk6 did the same when I just got it, it went away by itself. Mk6 doesn't even have rubber lining there.
I hope they release a MK 8.5 later and fix all the mistakes in terms of quality
I hope they put proper dials back on it, even if they make them look different and improve the interior quality and put a nicer looking front on it, it will be a good car
It's better they work directly for Golf 9.....
Thank you for such a great review loved the teck dash,bring it on here at Australia.My 7.5 is 12 mths old after watching your review can not wait for the release here.
i had a 1.5 2019 plate hated the long gearing for economy it was boring, went to a three cylinder tsi 110 and love it
Great review, thank you! I think the MK8 will be one those cars which is a ‘slow burn’. The styling has not won everyone over but maybe in the metal the design is more striking than the pictures suggest.
I was one of those that did think VW were starting to cut a few corners with quality, but as has been said, it is swings and roundabouts in the grand scheme of things.
I am very happy with my 7.5 but I look forward to seeing how the GTI/R models look in the MK8 flesh in the future.
What is certain, I am sure VW still have a winner on their hands, it has just not won people over initially.
I have bought a Mk6 and Mk7 golf in recent years, and had lots of other golfs over the years too, and I think the Mk8 looks really underwhelming
I've watched both, your review and the slovenian man's and I don't think that your analogy with cathode ray tvs and tft, is what he really meant. I believe that the point he was making is that with Discover Pro, you're already getting plenty of screen real estate (9.2") while preserving physical controls. It's a compromise between the best of both worlds so it is a form of cost cutting. If haptic feedback was at least added in the MK8, this could be argued in the name of technology advancement, but in this case it does seem like VW is marketing it as an advancement whereas it's in reality a disguised form cost cutting. That's just my humble opinion. Great detailed video btw!
Hey Marcelo, I appreciate your feedback. I don't miss the haptic feedback and oddly the screens work better than the Audi ones which have it so I wonder if there is a compromise to the screen responsiveness. OK, maybe I misunderstood that but Discover Pro is an expensive option on 7.5 isn't it? While his car and 'my' car are standard spec. I honestly can't think why you need more screen, and I don't think Tesla are a good example to follow😑
i'm going to wait for the performance models, and hopefully they will make the front end look nicer on those as I feel the front styling is the only thing that really bothers me - otherwise it looks like a great car - especially the interior which looks a lot nicer than the 7.5 - great review thank you
Thanks for commenting and really glad you enjoyed it. Bring on the performance models 👍👍
Excellent review Andrew. Not particularly warming to the Mk8 but then again when the Mk7 came out I didn't take to it initially either, so will reserve judgement until I sample one. I rather suspect VW are more interested in wholly battery powered stuff now. Times are very unsettled but things are moving on...
Mk6 was the nicest shape Golf, but the Mk7 is a lot better than the Mk8
Well this definitely looks much better than what I was expecting. I watched the comparison video which you mention, and the biggest issue I had was that he was comparing such different trims. You can't compare a base model to an R, there will be significant differences in the trim levels. Still not a fan of the front look or the amount of touch buttons in the interior though. There would have to be some very significant upgrades with the mk8 R to justify upgrading it over a 7.5.
Hate the screen being up high on top of the console just like the rest of the generic cars being lazy and not finding a way to integrate the screen into the dash. The 7 has it perfectly set into the dash.
To be fair, it is better integrated than many.
The cars I've come back to over the years and had several of because of their all rounder nature are the BMW X3 3.0d and the Golf , I've had a 2005 GTI from new for 4 years , a 2017 1.5Tsi and now ...drum roll I'm chopping in a 2016 X3 for a Mk 8 GTD in black pearl ...they must be doing something right I'm excited! Thanks for the laid back natural and honest review Mr Wizard!
Can’t beat a VW or Beamer 👍🏻
@@SF-rs3xm haha indeed yes, since then I've settled on a (hopefully now) long term automotive partner, that's a BMW 530d xDrive ( 0-60 in 5.4 OR 55MPG on a run) stuck a tow bar on too so a great all rounder ..( but don't tell volkswizard:)
@@UKArtlover nice, my Dad has a G30 too :)
@@SF-rs3xm :)
Great video, very interesting. You’ve opened my mind somewhat on the ‘lack of quality’ and ‘cost cutting’ issues, but for me it’s just the face only a mother could love. It’s ghastly. The Dame Edna headlights, totally unnecessary. Parked next to that TCR just emphasised the problem.
Thanks, well lets see what Mk8 TCR and R look like before we write it off all together, beefier treatment should work wonders according to GTI images I've seen so far but it will as ever be wheel and colour dependent.
volkswizard I hope you’re right, I’ll certainly look forward to your review. Dearly hope you get invited to do one, really enjoy the channel. I picked up my Mk 7.5 PP yesterday after waiting to see what the 8 was like, I’m delighted with it. Found your review on that very helpful.
Great review thanks. I pick mine up on Saturday - albeit the 2.0 d 150 DSG.
Loving my 7.5 GTE, I think it looks much better than the mk8. Might change to a Cupra Born in the future
At the end of the day design / quality is in the eye of the beholder, personally I’m not a fan. I don’t like that most physical buttons and other features have been removed such as the cover on the cup holders the felt in the glove box, the gas strut on the bonnet etc etc... Come to think of it, if touch buttons are the way forward like on both the mk8 golf and new Leon, why hasn’t Audi done the same on the upcoming (and more upmarket) new A3? 🤔
Fair point about A3 (although not seen it myself) but then the more premium A6/A7 and £100k+ RS6 have got touch screens so there is inconsistency? Maybe it's there to attract those who don't like screens and are prepared to pay for it - A3 is easily most profitable car on that platform so makes sense to give it a USP.
Apart from the glovebox I am pretty sure the other deletions are functional, a bonnet has to do stuff in a crash now and being attached to chassis with a strut may affect that (also the cost of fitting two catches and a manual strut is more than telescopic strut one catch so cost overall in that case has risen) . I used the cupholder in 7.5 yesterday and it's almost impossible to pull my VW thermal cup out of it with one hand such is the force needed and when it's released it comes out with so much force it' easy to spill, suspect LHD using right hand to do this is less of an issue. The key point to remember is that this is an all new interior and to emphasise this, the designers have changed pretty much everything, it's not a 7.5 lower dash hence no cubby. This isn't a deletion it's just different, likewise centre console. I am not sure why everyone is ignoring the extras such as 3 zone climate, the 3rd zone being the rear seats with their own digital panel (which works fine when not set to be disabled by the head unit). Overall I'd say net gain.
You may have a point about safety when it comes to the bonnet function and also the extra features that many of us including myself have missed. 3 zone climate is a plus in this sector along with the other technology they’ve put in. However I think it’s ultimately due to the Diesel scandal that has forced VW would cut a few corners in interior quality and therefore save money (in my opinion).
My point about the cup holders was more about how it’s presented than how it functions. Providing a simple cover adds a touch of quality, something we expect on a Golf, especially when the competition does it. Although their own Tiguan model is a bigger car, the same cup holders are used in this model and a cover comes as standard even in basic trim. I can’t imagine it would have cost VW much to add this to the mk8 golf.
On a separate note, I know the rear door plastics have never been good quality on previous generations, but I expected VW to up their game this time around. In comparison my wife’s 5 year old Hyundai i30 has soft touch plastics on all doors.
To summarise, I don’t mind the looks but much of the competition have now caught up regarding interior quality. Kia for example has come on leaps and bounds in recent years and VW shouldn’t hide behind technology to be considered a class leading car.
The MkV had a shelf in the glovebox for the Owners Books. When did they drop that? Sorry I'm a bit behind :D It had double bonnet struts too! Thanks for rebutting some of the claims in the other video. It seems like the sliders for the AC might be the only thing to annoy me. Other point do these have a PPF?
Good review . Well done . Will stick with my Leon ST . The differential between the two is not so much to make me want to change. But the fuel consumption is really impressive !
just leased that model auto and if no brexit deal it will go over £30k !! (Keyless entry is £400 extra).
Quite nice to drI've but they will struggle at that price as there must be better value cars around.
When I first saw the MK8, I was disgusted. However, it’s slowly grown on me. I don’t love it, but it’s a change. Whether it’s a good change or a bad change is entirely subjective, but I see what VW is trying to push - although I must admit it isn’t for me (particularly the interior).
I think they offer brilliant value... (I know I’ll get backlash for saying this, but come on, new car prices are shocking - £18k - £20k for a decent Polo/Fiesta etc.) I’d also be very surprised to see anyone paying list price, and the vast majority of sales will be on a PCP scheme anyway, so list prices will be irrelevant.
I think they’ve specced all models particularly well, most people won’t need more than the base “Life”. VW is clearly aiming to compete with the premium hatches full on, a change from the previous generations which straddled between Astra/Focus pricing and A3/1 Series pricing.
The tech for me - while a definite leap forward - is also a massive leap backwards. Yeah, it’s innovative, but in my opinion a car should never have such a distracting set-up. I shouldn’t have to take my eyes off the road just to change the Climate Control or volume of the stereo. Setting the NAV whilst on the move will also be dangerous.
One of the things customers loved about the Mk7 was the fact it followed the VW’s formula of easy to operate, whilst still being plush. Personally I think they nailed this with the updated infotainment in the 7.5 facelift, it was simple and easy but never felt basic or lacking in features.
In terms of driving dynamics, again, Golf owners have certain (maybe boring) expectations - so if that’s what they like, why would VW need to drastically change them?
I can totally see why it’s subjective, but I feel people would only be complaining if VW barely changed anything like usual, so I appreciate the changes.
I had a mk7 R a few years back, and I may consider a mk8 GTI in a couple of years if I can get my head around the technology.
I must say, the car looks way better in real life than in photos/videos.
It drives well, has comfortable seats and pleasant materials on surfaces you touch every day, like steering wheel and door handles.
Sadly, VW has dropped its “form follows function” in certain areas. Air vents are positioned to kill driver wrists on hot summer day. There are no headlamp washers to clean them from autumn dirt. And good luck adjusting anything on cold winter day wearing gloves. Everything shines like Christmas tree at night, but LEDs ran out when building climate/volume slide-bar. Any why the *** there is no night mode for map display?
No night mode for map display is huge issue for me if that's true. I used to occasionally get a Vauxhall Astra as a hire car for work when working nights away that had the same issue and it was so incredibly frustrating trying to drive in the dark with a white bright screen glaring just in my peripheral vision. It would be even worse on this Golf for sure.
There is a night mode for the map. You can select day, night or auto mode.
@@Cjbx11 Ok that's good. I found it shocking I couldn't change it on the Astra, so glad I don't own one.
My Dad has a Golf Match Bluemotion 7.5 with the 1.5 tsi and that has the mild hybrid tech which helps to charge up the 12 v battery and it will switch into neutral on the DSG when coasting and drops down to two cylinders under a light throttle. Best mpg I’ve seen is around the 65 mpg mark and that was on a run down to Bolton along the M6/M61, with ACC set to an indicated 66 mph.
Are you sure that's mild hybrid Mark as this is a first for VW and it's a 48v system. 7.5 will charge the 12v battery but that's like any alternator. The big difference with mild hybrid is that it can switch off the engine totally and run on stored electricity in that separate battery under the seat. The cylinder on demand (2 cylinder mode) and coasting (engine at idle and gearbox in neutral) have been around since Mk7 and are clever but mild-hybrid is even cleverer 😎
volkswizard It definitely switches off the engine completely when coasting ad revs drop to 0 and instead of a slide out tray under the passenger seat, there’s a metal box much like the one under the drivers seat of the MK8. It is the full on Bluemotion version with lowered suspension and rear spoiler like the R. I’ll double check in the owners manual when I get a chance. Really enjoy the TH-cam videos btw. 👍😎
volkswizard Sorry for not updating you sooner. I’ve had a good look in the owners manual, but can’t find any Bluemotion specifics, but after looking under the passenger seat, the metal box I mentioned prior has ‘Li-Ion’ printed on it, so it’s definitely a battery of some sort.
Great video.
I still prefer a diesel as it's much cheaper to service.
Do you have to take it to VW / Specialist to service?
How does it compare against the competition & in terms of residual value after 4yrs or so
The hook on the back of the B pillar on the 7.5 is to hang the parcel shelf if you take it out.
Really enjoyed this. Great indepth review, well done sir 👍🏻 The autonomous cruise is certainly a step up, very impressive. And as much as I've commented before that I just don't like the front light design (makes it look too soft) I will reserve judgement till I see one in the flesh. Looking forward to seeing the GTI TCR Mk8 👍🏻
Shout out to the cathode ray tube, my grandfather helped work on that thing!
Thanks Andrew..Great review. Looking forward to the GTI & the R versions.
The MK 8 is aluminium bonnet too rather than steel on MK 7 so it’s more expensive still
Well done on your review, :) best I’ve seen yet! Tell me, Has the mk8 golf a CD player?? Also, Is there ANY Standard USB plug. Or just USB-C?? (Just I’ve a USB stick with music on it. Thks in advance
A USB C to A (Standard) adapter can purchased for a small amount at virtually any store.
No cd player or sdcard reader
I'm gonna order a GTE next year, thanks for clearing up a lot of my doubt with this video
No problem, GTE review video will drop within the next week
@@volkswizard Cool! I’m looking forward to the video!!
Shame this fella doesn't look at the difficulty of changing - on the move - screen demist to an auto setting which for me is at least once a day. That's where the loss of buttons makes the touchscreen so difficult and as far as I'm aware you cant change those settings via voice control? It was why I didn't buy one last year and stuck with Beemer Wife now looking at swapping her 67 plate 150Tsi GT and she was disappointed over the loss of the bonnet strut and frankly the explanation given here that the 2 catches prevents it is nonsense My 2Series has both. VW def have cut the interior spec over 7.5 still a nice car just not a cut above other brands as much as 7.5 was. Wife may still swop as its closest dealer for us but she's looking at 1 Series
I've read elsewhere the hydraulic bonnet strut was cut for reasons relating to pedestrian impact deformity of the bonnet.
The golf does have a designated windscreen demist button next to the rear window demist button.
@28:54 probably it uses the seat sensor. You should do the same test with 2 people in the car, so both front seats are occupied.
I'm buying one for a driving school can you please tell me is it easy to de fog windows?
Nice deep review! I’m really impressed with consumption, but then: UK vs EU speeds and roads. The question now is can it stay on 2.0TDI levels at 130/140kmh cruising speed? Any chance to see your test circle also with MK8 TDIevo?
BTW “Eastern European video” is from Slovenia, some nice Alpine passes there, perfect for TRC with the soft rubber :D
Andrew,
Thanks for the overview /reasoned comparison , as with the MK7 /7.5 it begins to grow on you.
Really waiting to see the GTi, R & R Plus subtle tweaks to upgrade from the base models.
It will also be interesting to see how the up coming Audi A3 /S3 is similarly revised & changed..
Excellent video, lots of detail. Question. MPG analysis is interesting but how ... ahem ..accurate are dashboard mpg figures?
It's a comparison with my Leon 2.0 TDI 150 which is same platform and while both are inaccurate to some degree they should be close to each other in inaccuracy compared to exact consumption. Generally trip computers are a few percent out so say 2 mpg optimistic worst case scenario, still 50+ which is incredible at motorway speed. For more scientifically achieved stats, have a look at official figures as WLTP should be a lot more accurate than the old method 👍
volkswizard thanks
50 mpg isn’t bad, especially for a new car which isn’t bed in yet
I'm really not a fan of those door handles. I've first experienced them in an A4 and I thought I had pulled the whole damn thing off. Just feels wrong and you don't even get a place to rest your thumb and assist the opening.
As for the looks of the MK8, I get that style is subjective and it's not that the car looks terrible, but I can't recognize it as a Golf. To me it looks weird and disproportionate. And inside the cabin there's so much frame on those screens I can't help but think it looks tacky.
As I have very shallow pockets, I can’t afford a brand-new GTi I’ve managed to scrape together enough money to buy the Volkswagen golf, MK8 style interesting to know your view on that particular model. Many thanks
So was going to look into one of these, but I think now we will just get the MK7.5 GTI. For £20k would you get the standard MK7.5 Golf GTI with lower miles or go for the MK7.5 Golf GTI Performance with some more miles? Worth the upgrade?
Depends on cost for me if they are both the same cost, get the PP. When I was speccing my GTI the cost increase was well worth it in my opinion anyway. Bigger brakes, nicer exhaust, electronic diff and a remap all for a lot less than if you went aftermarket for it all.
I had the standard golf. To be honest I'm not the type of person to do a track day event. I think the upgrade is worth it if you will use it otherwise save the money. Just in the process of selling mine as was going to wait for the GTI mk8 but feel underwhelmed by this car.
Good review
As a past golf R 7.5 and currently a Golf GTI TCR owner
I don’t like the design of the new Golf
The front design looks good but not enough change else where
The center console around the phone charger and gear stick seams to be very plane
But will see what it looks like in reality
What do you prefer, your old R or the new TCR?
7.5 looks better I’m sure the Gti version of the 8 will address the design issues of the lesser models. Great comprehensive review
Golf mk7.5 fanboy here.👍
When will it come out? Really need to know. Im about to buy a tcr.. is it better to wait?
By the TCR lot nicer than mk8
Lots of good detail in your review, but overall I think you're being way too positive, trying to brush off every negative point or downgrade (like mentioned in that video you comment on). Those are mostly valid points, but you just brush them off. Having just properly test driven a same spec mk8, my overall impression was that it was an annoying experience. The car drives good, seating position and comfort is good, but so stupid and so much worse to have everything controlled via the display.
Thanks for the feedback. Most of this is my opinion and it's based on having lived with the car for a 4 days which is 4 days more that most people right now. Maybe I am open minded about these things than others but do you think VW would really redesign the iconic Golf to put buyers off?
OK, your opinion is that you don't like it but I am pretty sure many will, just look at the likes vs dislikes count. Clearly most people only comment in a negative way just like reviews on Tripadvisor etc are mainly complaints.
Unlike the "cost cutting" video, what isn't my opinion here isn't misleading or factually incorrect (for example he said mirror was cheaper than 7.5 when last 7.5s had the very same mirror so clearly his research/knowledge is flawed).
I don't think it's valid to say the locker/cubbie being deleted is cost cutting when there is a good chance this was just taken away as part of the overall design and to avoid a link with Mk7.5 as the dash is all new. Many other VWG cars with much higher price tags don't have one so it's hardly a key benchmark for quality.
Likewise the door handle, he didn't say it was different nor did he mention the puddle lights.
I could go on.
My overall point is yes some things have changed but if you don't also mention the extras you now get I don't believe it was a fair and balanced assessment.
volkswizard I think the reason why the quality might have taken a dive, is all the new tech won’t be cheap and also due to the diesel scandal. I don’t like the looks of it personally
@@volkswizard well said.People are coming on here giving their opinion on the car when they probably haven't even sat in the car yet.
This car is still a Volkswagen really and just because it's fast well compared to a Honda or a Toyota hell even a Nissan which one do you think will still be on the road in 20 years? It is a Volkswagen Herbie Goes Bananas
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Hey! Does the ”foot of gas pedal” give you a physical feedback or just a symbol on the dash? Audis will give you a tap on the foot.