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The Volkswagen Golf mk8 promises to be one of the most complete family hatchbacks you can buy. But do its new digital features add to the ownership appeal, and how does it perform compared with the likes of the Ford Focus and BMW 1 Series? In this CarGurus UK review, Dan Prosser puts a 1.5-litre petrol model to the test in order to find out.
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SET YOUR SEAT TO A MORE VERTICAL POSITION AND YOU'LL GET THE PROPER REACH OF BOTH THE STEERING WHEEL AND ALL THE OTHER CONTROLS. IT'S REALLY VERY, VERY SIMPLE.
JSB103 You tell him! I drove this car it is a lot better has more room and much more comfortable than the mark 7 just doesn't look as good thats all.
Nice review but just out of interest- why criticise the distance of the steering wheel from you when you could just adjust it towards you for comfort?!
I’ve never driven a golf and this is my first. If This is the basic model and I’m very happy with it, the higher ones must be really good. The driving experience is very smooth, comfortable and gear changing is effortless. The clutch does take time getting use as they said.
The touch screen does lag at times, but It has crispy clear screens with great built in software and UI. I’d say Have your seat more up right to reach the screen better.
There is decent size boot space and has more storage under the floor. Seating is also good and spacious.
Night driving is great with the ambient lighting (which can change colour settings) and having all the buttons light up is very helpful.
The MK7-7.5 front does look better that this one, but the TSI, GTI and R MK 8 look a lot better.
overall This is a nice car and does the basics very well 😎
Interesting how you’re also having to stretch ever so slightly to reach that screen. That will get irksome, not might!
Operating it, you have to engage with it just that much more than a button, I don’t think that’s a good thing and will distract people...
Have to say, you clearly aren’t that impressed with the car overall but end by saying it’s still one of the best when it now isn’t
Missed you Dan! Usual insightful review and agree mk7 design appears more cohesive. Loved my mk6 gti but was turned off when dsg started sticking from park to drive and sold.
Is it jerky during cold start? Did you have vibration during 2-cylinder mod?
Looks a good review. Thanks!
Great review and presenter. Easy to follow and I appreciate the honesty. After 8 years I expected a bit more of a leap forward instead of a facelift and I agree that the front is awkward but the back looks much worse with the squared off edges.
Golfs have been the same shape for around 20 years, just minor tweaks
@@forza223bowe5 No doubt. I'm not expecting a radical design change, but with the same chassis and engines, this seems like a Golf 7.6 rather than a Mk 8. And with the Korean competition gettting much better, I'm not sure if Golf can be content sitting mid-pack.
LOVE my MK7 still on the fence when it comes to the MK8. YOU.
Nice review 😄👍🏽
Not up to VW usual standards. Glad I've ordered a BMW 1 series, good collection of screens and buttons and far better interior quality.
Bought the 1series for the same reason
I bought a Perodua Kelisa
Another ugly car
Very surprised at VAG.
Excellent reviewer.
Hello I would like to ask will you review peugeot 208?
On looks you did compare a drab grey looking BASIC mk8 against a shiny nearly top of the range R line mk 7.5, ...roll your seat back forward a touch instead looking like Ali G :)
thought I'll never see that day that someone like Dan Prosser would review a boggo Golf!
I think they'll have to bring back the buttons and dials if this car does not sell wel.. everything in screen is distracting. Police will fine you if you touch your phone screen but not if your fiddling trying to turn off start/stop or lane assistant.. Forget voice control if you have any kind of accent
Good video.. I think I'll be holding onto my golf mk7
Fairly paradoxical, obviously the Mk7 R-line Golf will look sleeker and sportier than a base level MK8...
Everybody: we want buttons! Touch screens are awful in cars.
Car industry: you want touchscreens huh..?
It's a no from this MK7 owner.
Who really needs buttons ;-). Touch screens are great. Big YES from a new MK 8 owner.
Imagine trying to turn on the ventilation and the screen freezes, what a bad idea and dangerous also
Interesting review but I agree - the previous Mk 7 is better looking and with the obvious cost-cutting in many areas, I think VW will struggle to maintain the sales success of previous models. The touch screen is also too far away which will contribute to distractions on the road along with the fiddly slide controls. The newer 1.5 litre petrol is not coming to Australia due to high sulphur content in fuel and price will be critical so I am wondering where the advantages of a new model are? Those basic 16" wheels look terrible.
My son has a 2011 1.4 MK6 Golf Match and I have a 2017 GTE...the MK6 is quieter by a long way than the GTE and generally feels better put together with no squeaks or rattles (the GTE is shocking and rattle and creaks) makes you wonder how well screwed together the MK8 will be.
Mk6, is built like a tank, very solid and feels made to last. Mk7, isn’t bad but a bit of a step down, but Mk8, really looks like they have spent penny’s one it rather than thousands
What model is he driving
We had a sit in it last week, not great, I'm sticking with my GTD.
As a Mk 7 Golf owner, I can't honestly say I like the new Mk8. The front/bonnet area looks too elongated and bulbous. I may need to look elsewhere when the time comes to change. Skoda perhaps? Not Seat, because of the harder/sportier ride. I prefer comfort! Having seen several recent reviews of the new Skoda Octavia, it looks a better bet than this new Golf. A better quality interior for a start.
Great review, the Golf seems wanting to me. I'd go for the Focus.
Focus always has been the better car, especially if you like a good drive
Good point about the seating position for tall drivers. I get that problem with a lot of cars. Have to say Mercedes and especially BMW have an excellent range of seat and steering wheel reach adjustment, as did the old 2007-14 Ford Mondeo. In all these cars you can drive with your legs stretched out and still rest your right elbow (on a RHD car). The problem would be more completely solved if manufacturers positioned brake and clutch pedals further away from the drive (i.e. further forward in the car), then we could get comfortable and reach the touchscreen controls too. Nothing worse than a high clutch pedal and a needlessly high brake pedal (Ford Kuga - guilty).
marmal320 I agree! with the Germans being a tall race of people you would expect them to understand our needs.
Touchscreen controls are horrible in a car , you can keep it VW.
Mk 8 touchscreen controls are very easy to use. I have had new Golf 8 since July and I have no problems at all. I think it´s all about attitude and want to learn something new things. I love mk 8 :-)
@@ossitikkanen1335 I don't thinj people need to learn somethung new with touch screen. Everyone has smartphone and ipad. It's obvious that touchscreen will need a bit more attention than typical physical button due to no touch response.
Picking my 1.5tsi 150hp manual on the 4th August ☺️👍👍
Hope your enjoying it, pick mine up today 😂
Good review.
I can't stand having everything forced on to the touchscreen - it's using technology, just for technologies sake, and surely it's got to be more dangerous, forcing you to take your eyes off the road to do anything (gesture control is NOT that great, and is most definitely not a substitute!).
Excellent review. I totally agree with you, especially for the look. I just want to add: expensive.
I can see where this is going first they introduce the car safety features like lane keep assist so you don’t sway and adaptive cruise control so you can’t crash. Then they add the touchscreen and people are like we can’t use them when driving we will crash and Volkswagen say no you’ve got loads of safety features and by the way here’s travel assist (In Style trim) now you can use that touchscreen without having to worry about crashing. But then comes the ninth gen Golf with full autonomy (with the choice to drive) and now you can play with your touchscreen all day long. Then one day full autonomy with no choice to drive, sit back recline have a sleep, chat play with your touchscreen turn your chair round the table comes up have lunch play scrabble or connect 4 watch a movie or play Grand Theft Auto 10 on your PlayStation 9 or chat to extended family friends or hold a business meeting while your car drives at 70mph down the motorway! No speeding at 90 no loud exhaust from a Lamborghini as it goes by, because all cars are electric, with the idea to be no more crashes ever again!
Good points, normal buttons and the ability to drive in a straight line! is still far better.
I have a Mk7.5 and I think it's a better looking car than the Mk 8. Also I prefer physical controls to on-screen controls. The 8 loses the gas strut under the bonnet,the sliding cover over the central cup holders,the storage to the right of the steering wheel and the felt lined glove box to name but a few changes. I've always owned VWs,but I'll be seriously considering other options when I next change.
I find the mk6 to mk7 already reasons enough to look elsewhere, unfortunately I didn’t do the research and had to experience the cost cutting myself
Cost cutting VW, opening bonnet and using a hook to hold up?
Even my mk5 has hydraulic struts
Mk6 was the best Golf
You clearly like looking at the engine.
@@dermotporter5280 lol funny.
VW have been busy stripping out costs - my Mk7 has gas struts for the bonnet - the new one goes back to a stick! That may be a sensible cost/weight reduction, but not sure about the cheaper trim - esp the horrid black plastic interior
We had a Golf 7, it was a good car but build quality was very average and touch point quality was nothing like as solid as magazines like to claim. And from what I can see the 8 is a bit of a backwards step if anything.
I have a Mk7 quality is a bit hit and miss, a lot to rattles and squeaks and fuel cap keeps opening its self
Yes they cheaped out on this car bonnet prop instead of hydraulic lift even the s mark 7 models have this also no electric folding mirrors what cheapskates.
I think the Mk 8 design looks a bit frumpy compared with the Mk 7....
A bit??
Mk8 basically is a Mk7, just heavily revised
Ive got a mk7 and its brilliant, the best car ive had. But the tech inside the mk8 looks like it would annoy me. I dont want to swipe and all that shit. And how many times would it suddenly stop working just like a mobile phone does????
They've clearly spent the budget on ID3, this is why we've ended up with an inferior product compared to the previous generation.
This car is not meant to be anything special. It's just a bridge to the ID3. After electric cars gain more traction the golf will be discontinued.
I’m glad I have my Golf R mk7.5....way better looking than this 8!!
Trust me mate, I have a Mk7.5 GTD fully spec’ed out and it’s so much better to look out. Mk7.5 golf R also are just gorgeous to look at. Sick car mate 👏🏽
I just had a test drive with this exact golf. The review is spot on with the exception of the quality of the car. When you close the doors it sounds more like a Renault the a golf. And the interior quality is terrible. Definitely a cost cutting exercise
Not sure he is correct about lane control having to turned off EVERY jouney? Surely you just set it once? It does feel like a SEAT rather than a VW inside now. As for looks, you REALLY need the R line version and careful with wheel and color selection, ONLY some suit the car. VW do need to pay back dieselgate fines which is why some cost savings were made. Check out Mercedes A Class, Ford Focus, BMW 1 Series, possibly the Toyota Corolla Estate but come back and buy the Golf :D
I am 6ft 3 my concern is will I fit in it,also ill be driving about 60,000 per year
You need a VW Passat or Skoda Superb. Golfs are okay for two 6footers sitting in front and at the back...but 190cm? May be pushing it.
Sean Mc You'll be fine I'm 6ft 3 all legs the mk 8 has more room and better seating position upfront than the mk 7.
Much rather get the new Audi A3, looks better and has physical controls too 😉
Also more expensive.
Just DoIt Mk8 should be cheap, because it certainly looks it
I don’t like the new comments layout in the TH-cam app.
Best and most honest review of the new Golf I have seen so far. Compared to its predecessor it has inferior looks, inferior ergonomics, a higher price and with all those screens, more to go wrong! So clearly an inferior product compared to its predecessor never mind the competition.👎
New Ford Focus is the new Golf, it’s solid, refined and looks good
No doubt it will still sell well, despite its shortfalls
hey la verdad re lindo video lo disfrute bastante espero el proximo material los dejo les dejo besitos muchas gracias
I’ve always loved Golfs, with the Mk7 being one of my favorites. I just wished VW had tried a little harder with the styling but I’ll make my final judgement when I drive one.
I'll keep my 7.5 thank you
Me too
I would have kept mine, but I want to get rid of my 1.0 3 cylinder and get the new 1.5 Etsi
@@j.shussain7528 I have a 2013 MK7 with the delightful and incredibly economical 1.4TSI engine (604 miles driven down to Switzerland with the low fuel warning light coming on when I was just half a mile from the hotel). What's the 1.0 like for power and economy? Thanks
@ewaf88 well, glad to hear you made it!
Power wise, it’s got a lot of pulling power in the lower range, very nippy for a 1.0 which I didn’t expect, it’s fine on Motorways, but not ideal, if you drive continuously on 70, you’ll average 45mpg easily. Town driving wise, it has got a mild hybrid system which means it’s very economical, but keep in mind, if you drive aggressively, with harsh acceleration and harsh braking you will bring down it down to about 30mpg, which for a petrol car, many may say is ok, but the 1.0 can give a lot more if driven calmly and slowly, as if you’re taking your test.
As someone who’s had the 1.0 for 3 years now and I drive aggressively and calmly, I average about 35mpg. In my opinion, the best bet is a slightly more powerful engine. My one is 108.5 HP, 150HP is your best bet if you drive normally, like to overtake sometimes etc. Hope that helps buddy
@@j.shussain7528 Thank you very much for replying. I got 58mpg (imperial) on the trip down to Switzerland but I was cruising down at 65 on the motorways and 56 on the A roads which is why I made it to the hotel without a refill. Got back on a tank too. Had my Mk7 for over 7 years now and grateful that even my 122bhp version came with fully independent suspension.
The steering wheel looks so cheap.. honestly the look of the car isn’t eye catching. If I had both cars in front of me I would definitely pick the Mk7.5 - I currently drive a MK7.5 GTD 19 plate and god I’m so happy I bought that, It’s so eye catching and every time I step away from the vehicle I love it.
Yes, the Mk7 is a nice looking golf
Should have reviewed a TDI
This car has been out for so long now and i have seen a grand total of 2 on the road and one of them was on german autobahn. It might be due to corona but I’d guess it’s also the lack of quality.
Got memes I think you're right it doesn't seem to me as though it's selling that well, even year old Mk 7 match editions are the same price as used mk 8's
What the f is the point of warning cars if you are the only car with the tech?
Good review. Not sure I like the 8!
I kinda expect you're gonna sing The Scientist any minute in the video lol
😂
Hi Dan!
Evolution rather than revolution is the name of the game here I must say
It doesn't look that good standing still. But I think it actually looks quite good moving.
Ultimately the looks won't matter too much. A great number of Golf buyers will follow on through sheer loyalty.
I've had a mk5, mk6 and now a mk7.5......no way am i buying that ugly thing.
I have owned a Mk4, Mk5 and Mk6 and Mk7 but definitely not getting a Mk8
0:37 ...agreed the mk7 is better looking but that's not saying much, since IMO it looks rather dull.
IMO the mark 8 headlights are too low... My first car was a VW Golf. Used to love them back then, they don't do anything for me now.
Mk6 was the best golf
Police will prosecute you if you touch your phone but not a big screen. Before the fanboys go on about voice controls.. unreliable
No button to stop start/stop function anymore. And i do hope you can save you driver assistance settings.
No cd/sdcard for your music
No sunglasses holder
No cupholders cover or driverside storage
I have been driving golf for 20 years..
Toyota Corolla take my money.
"In cheap quality you trust -Toyota"
@@mathias61 VW reliability Vs Toyota i think we all know the answer to that one.
Take Toyota Corolla and enjoy the most boring car ever :-)
@@ossitikkanen1335 Enjoy your road side breakdowns and repair bills 😁 and the Golf is boring apart from a fancy looking silly no buttons info system, good luck trying to use that on the go then again when your waiting on the breakdown services it will be easy to use 🤣
You just compared a mk7 golf r line with a normal golf mk8 Ofc the r line will look nicer
True Golf fans would probably be staying away from the MK8
Have they stopped with the emission cheating !!!
The golf is doing the Civic.
That screen bezel 🤮🤮
The slope of the rear roofline looks like hell. VW made to many cuts on materials to cut cost and went to far on tech. The MK6 was the high point for the Golf and I would say this MK8 is the low of all the generations. I will stick with the MK7, wait for the MK9 and hope they look too the past for the Golf's future
Mk6 high point, u high? 6 is just a Mk5+
@@Nyez I had conflicts between the MK5 and the MK6 since they are so close with minor differences.
Mk5 and Mk6 Golf is almost identical, the only difference is the interior
I also did a review of the new VW Golf GTE in my channel! Looks very nice! But pretty expensive I feel
Sounds like another car that has a clutch delay valve.....its just annoying if it is.
Dont worry VW will fix the gripes with 8.5
Touchscreen-only is a safety nightmare. Car designers shouldn't be allowed to do it. Why are you not allowed to look at your phone but you are allowed to mess around with touchscreen sliders for your air con? Focus for me.
At least it's on a ledge and you can use it just with a quick glance, this is much better than tesla or hondas design where they put it in the actual touchscreen
@@saturndesigns2339 Honda are going back to physical controls for climate controls and certain audio controls, like the new Jazz and next gen Civic. A good thing. Would never have a car like this Golf with touchscreen controls for everything.
I said this about Tesla cars years ago and I got ripped to pieces by their loyal fans
The reason they do it is to reduce manufacturing costs, end of. Manufacturers have been very clever in turning a trend driven by cost saving into some sort of sales feature. I am not against screens but think they should be offered with command dials and that things like air-con should retain physical controls. I find it to be a sad indictment of regulators that they (rightly) prohibit mobile phone use while driving but have allowed manufacturers to turn car controls into a huge distraction.
@@johnbradshaw5900 totally agree
All the electronic safety features the put into this car, then they go and put everything behind a touch screen which is impossible to use safely when driving. Utter stupidity.
Bad comparison between a R-Line 7 and a standard 8.
Could you not get all this and more with a Hyundai i30 for a lot less money.. looks the same...
The i30 is an excellent car and the i30N is a brilliant hot hatch and a bit of a bargain. What amazes me is VW still get away with charging premium prices based on a perception of superior quality which is just not reflected in reality. That said German cars seem to have such huge margins built into the SRP that big discounts are normal. My nominally £40k Audi A6 was £28k new, 3 years ago. I was going to buy a Mazda 6 but went Audi as it was almost the same price. 3 years down the road I honestly wish I had bought a Mazda as Audi quality has been very average at best.
@@johnbradshaw5900 £23600 for the base model. Just madness..
John Bradshaw VWs are probably more reliable than a Hyundai
Normally new cars grow on me but this car genuinely looks terrible to me. What on Earth were VW thinking. I will say that you can’t compare the look of a new Golf Life to a last R-line, it’s not a fair comparison and we should compare the new R to the old or compare this Life model to the previous SE or Mach. I’m looking forward to seeing the new GTI and R in the flesh and obviously there will be a facelift, let me rephrase that, THERE HAS TO BE A FACELIFT ON THIS THING. Looks like I’ll be turning to Audi or BMW when my lease is up on my R
I feel like they have made a car that I always liked the look of ugly, especially at the front
Not the car it should have been.
This is really the most honest review of the new golf, they have been lazy and cheap with it and it shows. I get the sense that most of the infotainment systems are a solution looking for a problem. I have had ownership of a golf for the last 10 years and currently drive a mk 7 R, I will NOT be purchasing this golf. Ugly and lazy, I’m absolutely gutted with what they have produced. Well done for calling it the way you see it. I think most golf enthusiasts will agree with you.
The Golf fairs pretty poorly in reliability and customer satisfaction surveys. The Golf is NOT a benchmark in which to judge other brands. Try the Toyota Corolla!
What ever they do, how ever they call it - it‘s a Golf 😂😂😂
I don't like it, would not buy one
I had the Mk6 and did 106k miles in 3 years and it was a great car.Never missed a beat.Got the Mk7 and hated it from the first minute.Rear suspension would rattle the fillings out of your teeth.Unreliable too.Leaking suspension,broken gearbox.Can't understand the popularity.Overpriced and boring to look at these days.Now drive Skoda.Based on same parts bin but a lot more kit for your money,well screwed together and reliable.
I recently drove a Mk6 pool car, and it was lovely and quiet and the ride was very smooth. Went back home in my Mk7, and was much louder and the ride wasn’t as smooth
My mk6 had cheap lowering springs and 18” wheels and was still more comfortable than my torsion beam audi a3. If i knew beforehand that it had torsion beam i would’ve never bought it.
prefer buttons - a phone is cradled in one hand and operated with the other, close to the body. When you stretch your arms/shoulders away from body, your fine motor skills are impaired - ask a surgeon. It's why touch doesn't translate well into vehicles despite our phone habits.
No radio buttons would actually be a deal breaker for me. We Yanks will likely will get the more powerful engine options, , but I'm actually now re-thinking buying a Mark 7, end of model year closeout.
There have been known issues with that TSI 1.5 engine - one to avoid
Kangarooing sorted now
@@MOSSFEEN Trust and VW don't go hand in hand so how can you believe anything with VW?
Vw engines are crap, weak and unreliable
I’ve ran that engine in a mk7.5 no issues ever
Double Danny if the car is an MY20 built after august 2019 you wont have any problems.
PASS
Mark 7 better also, they got it wrong cancelling the true Golf GTI 2 door. What sense does it make to remove the true hot hatch? Idiots at the design helm.
3 door cars in that market segment sell in tiny numbers these days. Not worth the engineering cost
Just the standard curse of the even numbered Golf. The odd numbered ones have been much better recently!
Mini for driving pleasure
Kia for standard features practicality & reliability / warranty
Golf ??? No thank you
Nope. Vw has lost me after these last models. New tech, in a car that always had questionable reliability. Especially when everything is electronics. Thats why they jeep the 3 years of warranty, even they have realized the crap they are making and do not even bother to lie to us. Exterior styling? Styling died with the golf 6 the last beautiful golf. For the same or less money there are way better alternatives, like the sister new octavia nad the mazda 3. T-cross and t-roc have hard plastics all over the inside, where usually Vw has the best quality in the market. The new facelifted tiguan has new dampers, so they slap the word "facelift" and a higher price than the old one? Sorry Vw.
Everything in cars electronic these days. You may find cars that have actual buttons but it’s still all electronic as the buttons and switches only tells the microprocessor what to do. Whether a car has touch buttons, touch screens or actual controls the electronics underneath are the same.
VW cars are unreliable
I don’t get why people think the car is ugly when the difference between this car and the old one isn’t that major and most people not in the know probably wouldn’t spot much difference. Personally I think it looks a little more modern which I think is something the golf needed as to me it always looked a bit old fashioned. As for the touch screens whether people like it or not it’s the way the industry is going as it allows them to simply add new features and make improvements via software updates. I have driven this car and I have no problem with the controls and don’t find them any harder or dangerous to use than on any other car although I can fully understand why a lot of people may prefer traditional controls. One other point I would also make is that people have accused VW of cost cutting on this car because of certain things that have been removed but they have totally ignored all the extras they have put on the car. For example they have been criticised for removing a plastic cap on the door handle which covered the lock yet nobody has noticed that the handles now incorporate LED lights that I suspect cost a dam sight more than a plastic cap.
Cjbx11 It’s a lot more modern, but I don’t like how they have cost cut
VW designers need to resign with this uglyness
Unbelievable, how can VW call this the Golf 8? If it’s not a new platform then it’s just a facelift. This is so somewhat supported by the reviewer. Don’t like these cars, driven by people who listen to Coldplay and eat Margarita pizza and vanilla ice cream.
Golf is usually a solid and good Car, but this one really is a down grade
Vw doesn’t make new platforms anymore, it’s all mqb now, that started their downgrading of quality
Ha ha. The guys lead in tells you the MK7 looks better and everyone with eyes can see why.
The car in that spec looks a bit boring in my opinion.
Golfs are boring in all specs aside from GTi and R. That was always the case.
JDM Guy They are not boring, just conservative
The KING is DEAD no heater KNOBS what were they thinking Even the new Passat has them you would think it would be the other way around
I agree, and the new Arton
Over-styled, and you can keep the 'clever' tech - like a nagging toothache it will eventually drive you mad. The car industry has spent a century getting ergonomics right, so just because new tech allows you to do something doesn't necessarily mean you should do it, though some innovations are brilliant. Nil marks though for touch screens (more dangerous than using your mobile on the move, and that's illegal), gesture control, digital readouts for speed, revs, fuel and temp, and miniature steering wheels where you have to look over them to read the dash (Peugeot).
I agree, but this is nothing compared to the overstyled asian crossovers
Great car imho as evolution is what buyers want - and quite sorted dynamically - visually unless comparing like with like model variant new car looks like it doesn’t need as much bling and has a very clean design