2022/23 Specialized Levo Expert eMTB Long Term Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2021
- At $11,000 USD, the 2022 Expert is not cheap. What do you get for 10K? What is dealer service and warranty like? How does it compare to Gen2 Levo? We go trough it all!
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The best eMTB review I have ever seen! Good job!!
Short and great review, the best I've seen! Thank you!
By far the best review I´ve seen for the Levo. Thank you.
Great review. I rode a Santa Cruz Heckler for a year or so and rode with friends all with Gen2 Levo's. I had serious Levo envy mainly for the battery and motor. This summer I added a Gen3 Turbo Levo Pro so also went the crazy price route, but I have been totally satisfied and happy with the bike. Luckily no issues so far. That Brose motor is so smooth. Much more manageable on steep climbs than the Shimano E8000 motor on my Heckler. The Brose seems way more efficient too. I am 87 kilos and 1.87 meters so the improved efficiency and 700wh battery are great for me on long climbs. I went with the S5 and it fits perfect. FYI this bike cost more than what I paid for my new Husqvarna FE501s dual sport motorcycle! That just seems wrong, but it was worth it for me.
Totally get it! But like you, I believe the specialized turbo levo is the best! And the Brose motor is really the smoothest, with the best torque. I just got mine rebuilt for $900 after putting 4500 miles on it. I only rebuilt it preemptively, it did not have any issues. I believe if you just keep up on the maintenance, these bicycles will last you a long time. And I think they're more fun than good motorcycles! Plus you can take them anywhere. Have fun!
Wow this is really one hell of a great review because your passion towards this fight has not superseded your common sense thank you so much really enjoyed it I’m in the hunt for electric bike right now so this helps a lot
That was one of the best and most honest reviews I have ever seen on TH-cam! Enjoy your bike (yes, I want one really bad), and most of all, enjoy riding with your family! Cheers!
Great review mate. I was skeptical too regarding the high end price in comparison to some of the other E. MTB 's on the market. You ran through all the questions in which I myself had queried.. So big THANK YOU as I am now set on acquiring the 2022 levo..
Thank you so much for your Review youve helped me make my decision . Thanks again hahah ive got a crappy car too but i will have me a Levo sooner than later
I agree with you 100% i have the same bike in S4 size and i absolutly love it.
Very balanced and fair review, thank you. I have the comp carbon and I gotta say I absolutely love it. So much so I want to replace my Bosch-powered Cube Stereo hybrid with another similar Spesh. What a bike. Best days out of my life.
Nice review. I just got the Turbo Levo Expert as well and absolutely love it! I put on my Wahoo Roam and still can ride to power to get my workouts. Two upgrades… first, like you, I put on carbon bars but from SQLab and second, I put on the GX AXS. And yeah, the stock seat, cheap and awesomely comfortable. And yeah, my SWorks Aethos is not getting the same love anymore….
Great review that is spot on. I have the Expert also but in the S2 and wine color. I absolutely love it. My charging door broke off also but was replaced under warranty. I swapped out the dropper for the Reverb AXS from my other bike. Just upgraded the drivetrain to GX AXS also. Shifts like a Formula One car now. I too ride my eMTB over 90% of the time. More riding while being less spent is the biggest benefit. Ordered a set of Industry Nine wheels and hubs. Can't wait to try those out.
Hi Mark how tall are u? I am 5'8, trying to decide between the s2 and s3?
Haha high 5 on the mid life crisis!! Not to mention I bought the same bike as I live Melbourne Australia apparently we have the longest lock down in the world at 250 days. Don't regrets on the purchase at all. Absolutely love it, total game changer. Awesome review! If you haven't already can you do a full vid on the track you rode. Looks like a dream to ride there..
Just found one at a local dealer for 30% off. Too good to pass up. Getting assembled tomorrow. Pretty stoked!
great review, specially comparing to previous Levo generation :)!!
GREAT REVIEW. I have a 2022 Comp Carbon and LOVE the bike. There is a smoothness to the motor that you have to ride to feel! More miles, more fun, same leg burn.
By the way I'm 5'11" , 185 LBs and the S4 fits like a glove.
Good review as I’ve been comparing this bike and Kenevo Expert for same price.
Wow, those trails are what dreams are made of.
Brilliant review 👍👍
Fantastic review! I just ordered a 2022 expert for 8250$. Can’t wait!!!😅
Great Levo owner review, thanks for that! Keep up the good work! By the way: I broke my port cover on day one on my Levo Pro 2022 and got it replaced under warranty. According to my dealer Specialized is working on the problem and will offer a sturdier version free of charge as an upgrade.
Great! The warranty port cover already broke! On number three...
@@TheBikeDads This does not sound good...
Awesome review!! I too bought one because of age related issues!!Lol!!! I had shifting issues from day 1 on the AXS system. It would hang up only from 11-10 up or down shift. After 3 visits they finally found that there was an issue with gears and replaced it. Wireless is awesome now and I too broke my plastic charging cover soon after owning the SW Levo. Replaced under warranty. Bike is awesome. Don’t ride analog at all. Again, awesome review. Best Regards
Great review thx man. I want one.
Great review! I bought this same bike after watching your video. Hope Specialized sends you some free swag. 😆
Great review 🍻👍
Past mid lifer here lol also first gen s works levo owner Just wanted to point out something that portion of the dropper post coming out of the top tube is where you are suppose to hang your big girl on a stand(beefier, more stable)
Maybe that's why they keep that size dropper post...thanks great review!
Great review man! I'm considering this same build for a few reasons. I love bikes and have too many but not an ebike yet 😂, it would be great for longer FUN days, I hate the uphill so if this will get me a few more laps in then hell yeah! And lastly, my gf could borrow it too and I'll just ride my pedal bike (evil wreckoning) and we can both be out riding longer.
sold all my regular MTBs for eMTBs, I have the Turbo Levo Pro with Cascade LT 170 f / 165 r enduro pretty close to fun factor to my SC Bullit, I’m 5’10 S4 is awesome 👏 I eRide a Large with my Levo SL
I love my Gen2.
nice education i got here ... thank you
Thanks for review! I want one, but can't get my head wrapped around 11000.00. I ordered a YT decoy mx core 2. If its 90% of a levo, then I'm golden. Geo is pretty darn close to your levo. I have a gen 2 expert, but chainstays are too long. Went ahead and did a mullet on it and it helps some. Have a levo sl expert also, love that thing going down, but to used to a levo going up.
I am 5’ 7” tall and 180 lbs. I like the dimensions of the S2. I haven’t ridden an S3, so I’m not sure how much of a difference there is. The S3 is the middle of the road and with the adjustability of the bike, you can’t go wrong.
Very nice review! Ive heard a lot of good things with specialized customer support and your experience with them proved it. Man, 5’8 - 5’9 people always fall on that hump sizing 😂 i know a lot of people having hard time picking if s3 or s4 will fit them better. Did you even tried sitting on a s4? Or you just really looked on the reach number and already made decision with it. Thanks!
I have sat on an S4 and it confirmed my choice. I'm pretty confident in my reach number (450-460mm), anything more feels too big for me.
I need to lose weight to get down to 165 because I’m 5’8” as well. I’ve had to levo pro for three years and written thousands of kilometers and I just bought a expert. I’m keeping the pro to let friends ride. They are super bikes, and I appreciate the great review.
That's hilarious on the latch cover. I had the exact same thing happen; it tore off, Specialized warrantied it, and now I rock the Gorilla tape along the hinge in pretty much the same fashion as you show in the shot.
It happened a second time to me just while riding. Looked down, gone! No warranty the second time...$8 bucks to replace. I'm sure they are working on a better solution.
Can’t believe a 10k bike has this issue . Sheeesh
Great review!! I i had a 2020 comp carbon.
I do had raining waters problem.
Otherwise a super ebike!!
Is there a big difference between this tow version??
Great info!! Luis
thanks for a clear and realistic review, from a rider to riders.
my current e-bike use shimano saint, which I find absolutely fantastic for that job.
how would you describe the feel and efficiency of the code? good enough, or should I consider supply the levo with saint again (if I'll buy one eventually)? Thanks!!!
Try the 2022 Rocky Mountain powerplay. 108nm. Finally quiet. And the most natural power delivery on the market. And with Cushcore from the factory. About the only competition that will impress you. Happy trails!
I own a 2019 Levo Carbon Comp, and the motor lasted 850 miles. The warranty (4yr) covered a new motor, the 2.2 version. I like the bike, but if I’m going out of town for mountain biking, I bring my 2016 Trek Remedy 9.8 27.5 as a solid back up as I don’t trust the Levo. Pushing a 48 lb bike back to a trail head ruins the ride.
You just had some bad luck. I got 5000 thousand miles out of mine with no problems at all.
I just racked up 4500 miles on my bike. Then I had to rebuild the motor, replaced all the bearings in my rear hub, installed a new cassette, new chain, new front chain ring, new tires, new valve stem. Back on the road $1600 later! And before that I upgraded my suspension to coil front and back and built my own wheels and upgraded my brake rotors. The bike is an absolute blast but if you ride them hard they are effing money pits!
I just purchased the same exact S3. My only gripe so far is the brakes. Never been a fan of SRAM. Replaced them on every bike.
Spot on!
Hi great video, I am waiting for my S3 levo comp carbon to be delivered. $6750 USD in the online winter sale. Now back up to $9k, couldn't resist my first e bike from a alloy comp epic which I love. I wanted to get my wife out more the new sizing means the S3 will fit her 5'4" and also me 5'10". So when she's out I'll be on my epic and when I'm out with my mate we will be on e bikes he's just bought a Obea H15. So it's his fault that I have pulled the trigger on the levo🤣. researched the purchase and just wonder how on earth they can knock 2250 USD off, there must be a huge profit margin or they are selling off before new models. I would advise anyone to shop around the website deal didn't seem to be advertised that well and was only on the US site.
Heya, great video and also watched your review of the orbea rise - also really good... After reviewing those books, If you were coming from analog bike (Santa Cruz hightower) would you go for levo or rise?
I will never go back after riding my 2022 Specialized Turbo Levo Pro eMTB!
Great video..answered a lot of my questions..one thing thats weird is that specialized still can't get those motors rite..come on!!...locally a guy is selling exact model u have for 7k..89 miles on the bike...im soo tempted but I know I won't have the warantee...specialized does weird stuff like the ohlin shock debacle..or that brain shock system..they should just use shimano and call it a day
From your review and the specs , I’m liking this version of the Levo the best . 14k Canadian though . Geez it’s just like buying an actual dirt bike , but healthier
It was 13K CDN 8 months ago when I bought it. Inflation is a bitch!
Ya that’s a brutal pill to swallow . At first I was debating to go with a cheap Chinese bike to get to and from work , but now as always with me, it’s spiralling out of control .
I off road dirt biked for years , but now that I’m in my 60’s I’ve had to kibosh that . I did buy a specialized bike about 15 years with full suspension, but I broke my hand in half 90 minutes after I bought it . I was taking in how cool the ride was on a trail here in town , and realizing it was giving that same high as dirt biking . Unfortunately back then there wasn’t a lot of suspension for a bike costing 3K , and I hit a small rock which threw the front end out .
I’m thinking seeing as that the Levo has more weight than a conventional pedal bike , and decent suspension, maybe I’ll stay up longer .
So as much as I think the prices are absurd , I’m kind of comparing it with the cost of a new dirt bike . I’m prepared to bite the bullet and just buy the one your showing , but it’s not available here in the west Kootenays. I want to buy local ,as they maintain it for free . Calgary would be cheaper , as I’d pay less tax, but I believe in shopping local in most circumstances.
They have a Levo which costs 8K which I’m super comfortable with , but it only has the 500 wh battery . I’m really wanting the 700 wh , just for piece of mind if anything .
Also I’m 285 pounds , so there’s that
Btw I subbed . Every bit helps I guess , and this is a really good video you created here . Helped me the most so far
Fantastic review !! 👌
I'm on the verge of getting the expert, in the same sick colour way as yours ( Black & smoke ) question for you ? ; I'm 183 cm tall S4 & S5 I've only been able to test the Non e-bike versions of the turbo levo expert for size & only in the car park ! Because of very short supply due to the pandemic & no demo bikes available which is a bummer 👎☹️ but ; they are such great bikes !
The S4 was in it's slackest setting of 63.5 & the S5 was in the 64.5 they were super manouvrable !! I'm in-between sizes can go with either ! But because they are not the E- bike version I'm wandering wether the S5 might be too much it will be more stable ! & S4 more agile !! I'm basically wander wether to go up or down !!!
Your thoughts having got one & probably tried the S4 & you settled for the S3 !!
I think it is a personable preference around the reach number. I have tried a lot of bikes and feel real comfy on a 450 ish reach. Anything around the 470 seems too long for me and I find the bike stable but a handful. Given the reach is what I like and its a 50 lb bike I went with the S3.
I choose in between sizes and I ultimately chose the smaller size and I’m glad I did. Unless you are doing lots and lots of technical fast gnarly down hills I go with the smaller of the two sizes.
@@docwong What Doc Said. Personally, I think it is more about the **speed* you ride (larger frame) , vs better **handing traits* (Smaller frame size.) It's really NOT as much about how gnarly the trails are. Manuf sizing is just a starting point. Check out the Joy of Bike channel's YT video: HOW TO FIT A MOUNTAIN BIKE TO YOUR BODY | Free Fit Kit Note: Because I want a playful bike ((yes I go FAST downhill, but I still want to PLAY)) I always go down a size. More than once I went up a size and was quite UNHAPPY . And YES, I take my custom made **RAD string** whenever looking at bikes. I ride RAD+ size bikes. People coming from BMX will likely want RAD- sizing. The RAD sizing method is FAR better than the recommended size. and YES, I totally revisited all this before dropping $11kUS on an eMtb,, Also Consider:: eMtb are are HEAVY and LONG.... so handling traits are even MORE IMPORTANT than with lighter and shorter non-eMtb. Just my opinion.
I’ll never ride a manual again after the turbo Levo comp alloy. The bike makes me look great on hill climbs.
Love this colourway. On the fence in converting to an ebike. It’s seems like a no brainer to get in plenty of riding. I just don’t want the fun descending to be compromised 🤷♂️
Valid concern, and the older gen ebikes were sometimes a handful on descents. The new bikes like this change the game...
They are legendary. I have a 21 turbo levo comp. It is a monster
James, Try one and youll have the opposite thought. 4x more downhill, hands down way more fun
They’re definitely not better, just different, and amazing fun. I sold mine, partly because the mrs wasn’t a fan of 4 bikes in the garage, but mainly because I find normal MTB more rewarding.
I have a Santa Cruz tallboy and a Pivot Mach 6 and I bought my Levo Pro and I absolutely love it I use it more than my other 2 bikes.
great review! thanks for info not sure if you mentioned the weight, do you know what it weighs??
She be 50lbs!
I’m almost sold on this bike if specialized also extended the motor warranty to 4 years as with Gen 1 and Gen 2 models. I own the2020 and it’s my 3rd motor and specialized did live up to their warranty
Yeah, it’s going to be interesting to see Brands moving forward as riders will need extended warranty and service in a timely fashion, otherwise they can’t justify a 10K+ price. I would be hesitant to go direct to consumer brand for an ebike at this time, could not imagine the headaches trying to get motor replaced or fixed.
I would be curious to know why you chose this one over a SL model?
hola, me podrias decir pra una altura de 1,77 que talla me recomiendas? estoy por elegir la talla s3? esta bien?
GREAT review true mtb rider crappy car great bike 😀
Very cool review, still thinking if S6 would be ok for me. Im 203cm tall and bike has 46.5 seat tube. Maybe 200mm dropper would help?
I would think so, the S6 has a pretty big reach of 532mm. And with that seat tube length, you should be able to get a big dropper in there like a one-up with short insertion lenght.
Thanks for review. did you think about spending the extra 2000 to get the PRO?
I told myself if an Expert build was released and I could find one in my size, I would jump in. Expert builds in my mind have always been best value from specialized although the last year has kind of changed that. The Pro does look enticing with the Carbon wheelset but I could care less about Kashmina fox factory suspension, the performance elite stuff is top suspension. I figured I would buy an aftermarket carbon wheelset and keep alloy roval to sell with bike and keep the carbon set for next bike or sell separately.
what kind of cable do you use to tow your kids? I have 3 kids ;)
Okay, I got the 2021 levo sl expert carbon and yes it's a "year in" and the sl does not have the same motor (...), but i think it'a good sepcs for EUR 6.6k.
I think 6.6k is already a number but 10k?
Hey bro . I’m 5’7” smaller dude . I used a lowering strap on my motorcycle even . I’m looking at the Comp version . I was thinking the S2 frame but it’s out of stock for both bikes I was into .. think S3 would be too big?
What's the difference when you go up the models? I've ordered a turbo levo alloy I'm waiting on but I was curious on what the main differences are as you go up the range
Thoughts on cannonade carbon 2 vs the Turbo Levo COMP
Did the noise go away when you were on flat .. mine sounds like bees 🐝 when I climb… but will go back to normal when at dealer lol… so yeah… I also have the door issues haha 😂 oh .. and my bike turns off anytime the trail gets rough .. hopefully my dealer helps
I was wondering if you had any issues with the X2 shock on your Levo. I have seen some posts saying that the side loading stress caused by the extended yoke can cause the shock to fail.
Not with the X2 but I did break the shaft on a dpx2 on the 2nd gen levo (Same design).
Did you ever tried an assistance mode based on your heart rate? Is it cool and useful?
I have a 2023 carbonfiber smoke grey..bought it discount price.love the bike .need better forks and shocks. Never can get spare parts.. waited2 months for rear cases it broke.seat down lever broke. Been 1 month it still hasn't come in..I've had to resort to ordering online after market parts .so that probably does Away with warranty. I'll see...when it works I love mine..I'd been sick if I paid 10 for one but am sad I didn't upgrade
For better suspension front and back. Is what it is..I'll work it out
Hi Colin, I am also 173cm tall. Trying to.decide between s2 and s3. Did u ever try a levo S2? Keen to know your thoughts..
For me, I know the 432 cm reach of the S2 is too short. Our height is bang on in the middle of the S3 sizing…perfect I would say.
great review, where do you primarily ride? looks like BC?
Coastal BC and Bellingham.
@@TheBikeDads 😍
Is the electric turbo faster then the Non-electric bike?
Can I ask where those trails are located? The single tracks look awesome!
In and around lower mainland BC.
@@TheBikeDads Cool! I'm hoping to do a road trip on the North West next month. I might make it as far as Vancouver if time allows. If you get a chance I'd really appreciate your suggestions for epic rides not far from the city. Nothing too technical. BTW.... just purchased my first e-bike, Specialized Tero Turbo 3.0. Based on your review I hope to upgrade to the Gen 3 Levo some day. :))
What's the weight of this build? I'm considering the same size & build.
Hi mate, have you ridden an S4? I’m same height 173cm. Have only had the chance to ride both the S3 and S4 in a carpark, I can’t make up my mind.
I have and prefer the reach of S3.
What size disk was on the front?
I couldn’t find the S-Works so I bought the S6 frame set… do you think I’ll regret the S6 at 6’2”?
That’s a pretty big reach on the S6 but if you like a long stable bike for plowing down fast rough trails it should be pretty good for you at 6’2. For a more manageable feeling bike at slower and flatter terrain the S5 is probably a great choice at your height.
@@TheBikeDads Yeah, I didn't mention that the S6 was all they have in stock. It's not shipped yet so I think I'll cancel and wait for Spring.
Could you show us how you remove the battery, thanks
Single 6 mm Allan key bolt on down tube and slides right out. Very easy, takes less than a minute.
So I bought the exact same bike as you, 1st ride today, motor cooked at .8 miles, same noise, reduction in power, a real buzz buster, drove it to my dealer, he rode it 10 ft and he confirmed bad motor. I’m hoping this is just the luck of the draw, I was hoping these motor issues were a thing of the past. How has your second motor been?, how many miles do you have on it now?
Second motor has been trouble free. 1500KM.
@@TheBikeDads That’s great, just my bike back today, new motor is working great so far.
Did your motor only make that noise while climbing or all the time?
Louder when climbing…but all the time.
What about the turbo levo comp alloy .still good ?
Heck yeah.
What do you use to tow your kids? I have never even considered that as a possibility :D Best tip in 2023 for me
We have another video for you. We take our towing seriously. th-cam.com/video/PBsUr5YWrAM/w-d-xo.html
Looking at the kenevo sl 😂
Washington state?
Do you have any new issues with the motor?
No issues with second motor but the TCU went on me and the blew the rear shock. Both warrantied.
Do you know the real weight of the bike?
How told are you? I am 1,78 and I don't know if I should buy the s3 or the s4......
I’m 173 cm.
@@TheBikeDads thanks! so with 1,78 I think I should take the s4...
If your preference is a little more stability in the handling of the bike, S4 for sure. If you want to man handle the bike a bit more S3.
if you had your time again would you go to a s4 ? I'm 5,9.5
I really like a reach in the 350/355 range…I’m 5,8. The S4 is 370 ish, too long for me. The other bike Dad is 5,11 and recently tried S4, fit him perfect.
@@TheBikeDads I think I'm better of with the s3 at 5.9 definitely not 5,11 my inside leg in 30/31 ish
IF you could do it over would you spend the money for the expert?
This is the expert, do you mean spend more for the Pro?
@@TheBikeDads would you buy the expert again or get the lower model and upgrade components. Do you feel it was a 11k well spent? About to drop the cash on the expert.
Def worth it!
why everyone now wants 220mm rotors??? 200mm works great, just use Shimano brakes :) (or maybe Magura?)
I wouldn't be saying on video you tow people.. be a hard sell to warranty that motor again ...
Is this bike made made in the usa?
In Europe 18000 $ !!!!!
no, it's 10700€ and in January 2023 with all the discounts offered by Specialized is 8600 e
$10,000 working man's ebike! 🤣
More expensive than my car
Mine too.
Great bike , rides smooth th-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L I added a bigger spring loaded seat to it . Takes a bit of adjusting cables to get brakes and shifting to perfect . I've owned quite a few bikes in the past that were absolutely uncomfortable to ride and they always ended up as garage wall decor . I'm not seeing that with this one. It's pretty light I've only ridden it a few miles but I like it . As for the pedals falling off in the other reviews , the pedal arms are aluminum along with the pedal studs look to be also . I would not overtighten them. I can see it would be very easy to overtighten them and strip the threads right off . All in all I think it's pretty good quality besides the aluminum pedal thing .
Wow not first review claiming bad motor on fresh bike. Wth is specialized production line like 🤔
10K working man’s ebike😒
Bosch,,,,is the best tested ebike motor . The rest suck. Its the only way to go. Tests all show that fact.
Yeah I have a Trek Rail 7 with Bosch motor and it's a blast. I would like to try a Levo though someday.
What a open minded statement
After running the Brose, Shimano and Bosch, the Bosch I’ve found is the best..
"Everyday Man Ebike". LOL. not everyone can afford a bike for $10k. Levo is overpriced, unreliable, and low quality. The battery cells are cheap. Only good is the service IF u buy it new. I have a gen 3 alloy.
I THINK YOU SHOULD OF GOT THE S4, WERE THE SAME SIZE HEIGHT AND WEIGHT WISE
NICE VID
Pricing is hilarious on these bikes. No wonder they have 25% off. Brose motors are shit.