Does anyone in India remember Jasleen Kaur case? how the woman destroyed a guy's life for 4 years and when the truth came out the woman wasn't even charged whereas the guy has to pay all the court fees
@@shanewilliams5150 the point is, she lied and ruined someone's life. Then didn't suffer any consequences as a result. And because she didn't suffer any consequences the guy still had to pay money to the court despite the fact that he was innocent.
@@shanewilliams5150 Bro the point his even after the truth,she faces no punishment nor any compensation was awarded to the victim He paid every court fees and she is roaming freely whereas guy was fired from 2 jobs
@@saandilyaagundu5697 girl accused him in mee too movement. He quit social media for a year and then posted screenshot of his innocence, which btw he might be, or not. On other side, girl is celebrated. And girl never moved to court, Just social media accusation. And his carrier got destroyed. That's what lord krishna said: KARMA
@Sam The Sham Media tends to exaggerate the situation. India is not as bad as media makes it out to be, especially in the urban areas. Also, majority of the rape cases in India are false.
@Sam The Sham by that logic, what are your views on gun ownership and gun use by police and civilians in usa? Sorry the usa not the republic of india. Double standards. Theres a stat.
@Sam The Sham You mean like 2nd amendment in USA. Our country will turn into Iraq and Syria. No thanks. 53% of rape cases were false repirt by DCW 2013-2014.
@@anri8231 that's not true. India is one of the worst country for women. Especially in Delhi. Many cases go unreported in india as many families prefer to keep quiet then to file a complaint.
@@akshatsaxena1431 then u r talking about someone else. This guy commented "YESTERDAY". and when I replied him, a day ago, some 17 years old teenager committed suicide
Most of idiots think woman can't be bad, they can't harm anyone. The same people thinks differently abled person can't be a criminal, it's their perception . By default the law is used to protect woman ( which is good), idiots think few can't misuse it !! Handful injustice is definitely injustice VICE
@Sagarika Mohapatra there is some places wich have nearly 70& 50% and some places have 10% Bro do Some more research And Give ur Knowledge To the people You edi*t
@@Nimish204 he deserved it. he was not believing them and then god gave him what he deserved to make him understand that men's rights movement is actually important.
@@Sunny21256 they wont... well Utsav would be cursing his past self that's for sure... it would be interesting if he comes up and accepts his mistake and biases he made in this video and then fight for MRAs... that would be a good thing his story would make MRAs get some good win because he did this biased interview, and then he was the first casualty of the Me Too sh@t in India his story would open eyes of a lot of men no feminist came to help him, he must have felt bad and angry that the people he considered as just some dumbos were his brothers, but the people he thought to be friends were snakes he might come up soon, its been 3 years btw, I hope he is alright, he has had no interaction on media since past 3 years maybe he's depressed... a LOT and feeling betrayed :(
I am founder of SIFF and I was interviewed in this video. Lawyers suggest women to misuse dowry law so that they can demand 4 to 6 years of total income of a young guy as one time alimony. For example, a 28 year old male software engineer can get a demand of Rupees 4 to 7 million as one time alimony. If he and his family pay up, then the the complaint of section 498a (dowry law) is withdrawn. If they fail to cough up the money, then they proceed with the case. Now, is that not reverse dowry on men? Lawyers who are involved may also be getting a good tip if they can make a guy cough up such money. The police in India are spineless here. That means, they can not dismiss a complaint of a woman even if they find it to be false. The feminists have made law makers to not give police these powers to dismiss a complaint. We do not deny crimes against men. We are not forcing Govt to withdraw pro-women laws or stop enacting new laws. We are just saying, Govt must put an end to false cases by punishing false accusers. We are also saying that just like USA, in India also men must get some protection from domestic violence, sexual harassment and stalking (from women). The feminists oppose punishment to false accusers and they want domestic violence against men to remain legal.
Hey Anil! So this is coming from a woman and a girlfriend of a person who has suffered through false allegations against him by a woman. The problem is even if the society is supportive, the lawyers are too shrewd for their own good. I hope you remember how much Nirbhaya's case was stalled just because of some people who knew how to play with the indian law. You're right about that. But I really want to know that what do you suggest to abolish the dowry related issues? Because clearly just banning it hasn't worked at all. People "gift" their daughters things and then only through those "gifts" the women's family start threatening the men's family. What can be done to abolish these trickeries?
@@shirleycharan8001 Well, I guess( and actually intend to do so in future) is creating an acknowledgement contract where details about those "gifts", financial cost undertaken by bride and groom's ceremony will be mentioned clearly and will be signed under a supervising lawyer. These will act as proofs that the man hasn't take any dowry and any "gift" given to bride is voluntarily given to her by her parents. And, I respect you for being there for your bf when he needed you the most. Women like you can help us to fight against the gender biased laws.
yesterday, 88 women were raped. but surely, why would you talk about that. look, gender equality is not a fight of men against women. its a fight of unjustice done to people only on sexual basis. understand that. i am a feminist and also a menimist. but i had rather call myself a gender equalist bcoz both the sides are not asking for opposite things. yes, men are wrongly convicted sometimes, but then why do you think the court is so tilted towards women in rape cases?...simple, the number of rape cases are just too high. thats where the problem lies. the problem is not the law, its the sexism.
The reporter Vice hired for this segment on women's right, as seen in the video, is accused of sexual harrasment that too with minors and was actually the first casualty of India's #MeToo movement. Wonder what he has to say now ? What Vice has to say now ?
You will never want to be in one of those "handful of cases" because: 1. No one will hear you out 2. The ones who do see it will call it a "handful" But trust me, you will be shaken for life.
I cant understand how Non Indians/Foreigners got guts to say that cases of Vineeth are handfull?? Sorry mates you need to come to India and spend sometime here to know the truth.
DUDAH Sir very nice of you to ponder on that side of the coin aswell else every person around the world by default regarded Indian Men as oppressor and Indian Women as victim.
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The reporter is clearly driving a feminist agenda, the video shows him asking preloaded biased borderline accusatory questions and abruptly cut off on any reasonable answers, and starts with his own feminist narrative. With the current system and laws set against men in India, it's better to be a MGTOW or if already married then record/document everything.
@Spammu Doggo Feminists are stupid, that female lawyer proved that. What is fight against patriarchy? Nobody gives a fuck about it. It doesn't exists. It's same victimhood problems that she was claiming men have are problems feminists have.
Cool story bro. Where did u get that tho? Oh yeah. NOWHERE IN THE REAL WORLD. Now stop living in ur fictional world called the “manosphere” & start living in reality.
@@revanthganesh3808 this Utsav guy, the host, who was trolling men's rights movement, was shortly falsely accused by a woman comedian... and his entire career ended overnight and no one believed him well... karma? seems like it either ways, even if was biased, and now is getting this under karma, still I wish him the best, atleast now he knows why men's rights are important... still I feel like no one should suffer, not even him... coz he is a human afterall, they commit mistakes.... I wish the best for him
@@denisewhite3902 not as simple as that. In my case my mom was the one that raised me more than my dad. She was the one that wore the pants lmao. Either way as guys we're taught that getting abused or harassed by women is completely normal. I always saw it happening growing up but it became so normalized that it was hardly noticeable. Sometimes I'd get hit with a machete or one of those big knives. The whole time I just thought it was normal. I've always been told I'm a guy I can take it. I still have those scars.
@@alexdaddario6848 I tried, but no one took it serious lol. Other than that, as a kid I got threatened so I never said anything. I’ve moved out by now tho so yeah.
@@von6413 huh bruh feel sad for you..as a girl there are someone to help me but 😖our laws are trash and society treating men as rocks which dont have feelings
As an Indian man, I support every right of women, need their protection, against dowry, their objectification, same rights as men but I'm still not a feminist. It's a cancer.
There's no way we are going to resolve this situation if we don't work at it together...i think everyone understands that just because loads of women get sexually abused doesn't mean loads of men are sexual abusers, that is simple logic and not the problematic issue here
Sarah L Yes it does Sarah - it means that loads of men are sexual abusers. That's _exactly_ what it means. It is illogical to conclude anything else. Too many men, especially in India, are instructed from birth that women and very young girls have to observe a long list of conditions if they don't want to _go and get themselves raped._ With the case of the Indian woman who literally got raped to death via four men and an iron bar (she died in agony two weeks later) - she had the nerve to be traveling to a cinema on a bus with a man to whom she wasn't married. Her rapists and murderers pleaded "fair game." All of them. Four grown men sadistically, savagely, raped a woman to death on a public bus. Think deeply about this next comment: NOT ONE DISSENTING VOICE. NOT ONE OF THEM SAID, "No, this is insanity; This is unthinkably cruel." If not the evil savagery demonstrated in that sickening attack, that sense of _entitlement_ happens too often in India among the men. The practicing of witholding women's passports or other insidious ways of putting women in effective or literal purdah - for women's _protection._ This mindest is clearly instructing society that women need protection from cruel men who wish to harm them. What they get wrong, time after time, is that when you instruct society that certain women ( and sadly, very young girls ) are 'fair game' if they do not observe some RIDICULOUS conditions, you fail women in India. I don't believe that highly-educated Indian men would hold such contemptuous views of women. Clearly it's the uneducated men expressing rank misogyny. But Sarah, *there are are many millions of them.* Stop failing Indian women by appeasing uncaring, (frankly coddled) men. The very idea that India needs a men's rights movement is a Very. Sick. Joke. I'm not laughing.
In formal logic it does not follow that if lots of women are raped then lots of men are rapists. It may be the case but it is not a logically sound conclusion. I don't live in India so I can't make judgments as to how deeply damaging the patriarchy runs...it seems fair to say that centuries of men going unaccountable for their acts have lead to this situation. It may take a while for the situation to find some sort of fairness but let's face it...anyone would rather be a man facing temporary potential injustice than be a woman. Does someone who has more knowledge know if class also plays into this? It would seem strange to think not....
its certainly not a hate group, but it's definitely a "oh people other than us are finally getting the good treatment they deserve but now the spotlights off of us so we're going to "solve" problems we "experience" that don't exist so plz pity uwu" kinda group
This movement must be spread throughout India........Because 99.5% laws are not helping men when he faces domestic violence... Kindly spread this movement every state....
This movement is important but these guys are doing that much we need social media support and yt channel specific for men and men's right,,there are so,many channel for women like "jfw,fzone,etc" which is ironic but nothing for men in Indian yt is sad
L This is the dumest movement their is I am not against men's rights , but this movement just brings men who have been falsely accused/other issues and convience them that it's cuz if feminism It doesn't work for men at all Just bashing women /fEmIniSm
TOP THINKERS they’re overgrown kids Some women are terrible some are really good Generalising all women to be terrible would bring a bad name to those who are decent
Most people here isn't getting the real agenda behind the movement. Innocent men are falsely accused very easily in case of dowry or rape. Nobody is telling that the rapists or the wife abusers should be let free. We need proper laws which protect men in such false accusation cases. If you all are so against men having those rights to protect themselves when falsely accused then women shouldn't have it either. BTW what had been the punishment for all the women offenders of false accusation of rape or dowry?
How about not taking dowry from bride at all? Its cruel pratice anyway, if men right's activists cared about equality they would work against dowry, right?
Sally Khaidem sometimes woman has to take those steps she doesn't want that marriage or it's a forced marriage you . See a women just cannot go away from that marriage for that they have get that reason
Isn't the central problem here that due to the nature of the crime, innocence and guilt is so hard to ascertain. What percentage of falsely reported rapes would you think can actually be proved as falsely reported rapes? Same with correctly reported rapes...only a tiny number will be prosecuted. The majority of rape cases lie in the middle surely? Our focus should be on what to do in those majority of cases...anonymity until the accusations about an individual start to stack up???
Sally Khaidem: I agree with you... However, if there is a major problem with rape and spousal abuse then that is really the problem. I would suggest that the group of men that are focused on this movement should join with the groups of women that have been traumatized and become allies. Together they can support each other. A man within that country supporting egalitarianism would set himself apart from the people that feel rape or abuse is acceptable. I have experienced sexual trauma in my life so I understand the issues about reporting it and the shame it can bring, I also have two sons who I am raising to be good partners but also that they protect themselves from being falsely accused.
Men and women need to work together against sexism to both men and women. Feminism attempts to do this but unfortunately many on both sides have misinterpreted feminism. True feminism is aimed at social constructs and roles not against men. However the social constructs whilst arnt favourable to men are far worse for women it is clear as day. This is not to silence the voice of men as their issues are equally as valid. We do not need to turn this into a war of sexes but a war against injustice.
We actually got the RSS/Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (male only) that is led by unmarried men and is the parent organisation of India's ruling party BJP (that has a majority in the central parliament as well as majority presence in the most populous states). Celibate men (theoretically) are immune from sexual overtures and in some ways the leverage women have over men, so they think from a different viewpoint The RSS is atleast 10-20million strong And after nearly a century of being founded it has now occupied a prominent position is the cultural and political discourse.....they are openly anti feminists btw They reject modern feminism as a western Woodstock fad ...... I would expect changes in many non gender neutral laws in the coming decades, it would seem we are heading back to a "traditional" outlook
Of course not everyone's involved but we have to look at what's enabling it and why is it so. India is still hugely disproportionate country in terms of wealth and economy and caste system is still alive and well. Add to that how religion plays a huge part in Indian lives, an old doctrine and practices that still put women in an archaic role for the most part. Up until recently in most cases rape victims have blamed not the men. You have men throwing acids on women who refuse their courtship. And from what I read domestic violence are also high, even though much of it isn't even reported. And it gets even worse in rural states. Now I'm sure there are men who gets abused and there are the female who does the abusing. But by in large, it's the unique blend of above factors I mentioned why India is still not a civilized place for women in comparison to most other first world countries.
Mr.Fake account holder spotted . you hide behind the fake name because you are scared that people will come up with good logical reasoning to show you your position.
He recognized his bias, he said he was ready to meet people that were just against women. And that some of the guys he met are just trying to get out of a bad situation. The reporting seemed honest
Is it because he brought up statistics that prove the people that he's talking to are a little misguided? He talked about who he thought he was going to meet and how they were very much different, but with a couple of changes. He's right about the main guy in the story though, it seems like he's more in need of legal advice than a bunch of dudes coming together to complain.
The supreme court judge made an interesting point on false positive and false negatives. The law was set up in a way of innocent until proven guilty. So it would rather let free a criminal in absence of enough evidence than to punish an innocent person. So the problem of even 8% false rape cases is a more serious problem.
Unfortunately they are saying U.S. MRA's are a "fringe hate group" here but that may have been editing. Either way, it shows you the power of media agenda. Just like the fact that fear sells,humans protect women and then the whole "spin" isn't a mystery anymore.
@@jloren5662 This anchor is now accused of sexually harassing minor girls. It's called karma. www.hindustantimes.com/tv/comedian-utsav-chakraborty-accused-of-sexually-harassing-minor-girls-aib-makes-statement/story-piswnvVhYVHHneNx0aaWbJ.html
@@ft.xsammy if you are a feminist you are talking up for men too....feminism focuses on equality and that includes men too....Feminism = Everyone gets equal rights(including men)
Adam feminsim is about social relations between both sexes. Boys being told not to cry is problem, being taught that they should do "manly" things is bad for them, teaching them bad ways to deal with their emotions is horrible for them and for the women in their lives. So there are alot of ways for lives of men to improve if they are aware of these issues, they need femininism just as much as women did it.
Well, does Utsav Chakraborty himself relate with men's rights and what a man goes through now after the charges imposed on him by Mahima Kukreja and her sister? I feel sorry for him now, as a fellow man...
@@shivamchakraborty-Money stabilité not having a job not getting thé man they want being poor no safe Jobs for women family and tradition if they had the choice for a more attractive man trust me they will not say no to him and woman and men dont even like they race in india they want to have White skin its very sad bro but that a black pill for you
@@annikasengupta9085 Oh! Lord! No! Definitely women are not all bad! They are our mothers, sisters, wives, colleagues and friends. The issue here is that the laws in India are very bad and savagely unfair towards men. What is needed is to make the laws fair to all citizens of the country.
@@rutha2403 In India, if you are a female. You can easily punish a man (for being a man). In lucknow, a girl was crossing a road. And a cabbie almost stopped the car and didn’t hit her. It was her faulty way of crossing the road. However, she started beating and humiliating him. At the end, the poor cabbie had to pay Rs10000 (which is one third of annual per capita income of India, and cabbie’s are not very rich). While the girl (who was a teacher) Had to pay only Rs100. And you can check the CCTVs if you want. Girls are too much powerful over guys because law makes them powerful.
@@rutha2403 Hello Ruth, Why did you not answer Kritik? No, Men in many areas do not have equal power or rights, and I believe in Equality of the sexes, not in fighting against one gender. And if you believe in equality (instead of female first sexist feminism), would you not also want men to be equal? Would you also not want false accusers to get heavy penalties for destroying someone's life; or equality before the law & presumption of innocence (like any other crime) when accused? Would you not stand for fair & equal standards in alimony?
@@rutha2403 Are you familiar with the book "The Myth of Male Power" by Warren Farrell? Or the work of MRA's like Janice Fiamenco, Christina Hoff Sommers, Karen Stroughan or Warren Farrell? They stand for men & women being equal, but emphasize the areas where males are not equal. They have way, way less power than Feminists, as can be easily shown by making some comparisons, even when numbers are male dominated. Unlike Feminists, they don't tend to throw another gender under the Bus to do it. And unlike Feminists, they are happy to be led by the opposite gender too.
When i broke up with my GF she went crazy called the police and she lied to them i pulled a Knife on her. And i was Suicidal .. the NYPD show up at my job arrest me. After 2 months of back-and-forth in court she told the prosecutor that she might have seen me pick up my keys instead of a knife charges were dropped immediately but I was humiliated at work and 2 months of my time and 40 hours at lock up at central booking 1st day to see the judge before I was released on my own no bail thank good but she never got locked up. She also keyed my car Flatten my tires that was over 5 years ago i still Watch my back ps. Never trust a Bar girl. That how i met her
virtualatall well i can see how some people can take the law into their own hand in India or any other south asian country somce the courts are too slow. I am all for courts. And no Violence
this is because of school. In Indian school, if a girl did something and the boy did something, the girl would be applauded. Teachers completely ignore if a boy is getting good marks, if a girl is getting good marks, she is selected for all the activities
Happened to me. Scored top marks for 4 years in a row but never got any awards or appreciation from the school while a girl got to be the public speaker and school spokeswoman 24/7
Who cares? karma bro!! i was frustrated too after watching how biased he was. So i came back to this video after knowing about his allegations and i can't be more happy 👌
Holy fuck! I've had lecture about editing and the power of it. There are something called as 'Ethics of editing'. This video is edited to fit their narrative and bias rather than being a source of unbiased insight and I despise that. Eeeesh 🤮
"a handful of false accusations" - it's unknowable how many false accusations there are, we only know about the ones that are caught. But when you base guilt on the testimony of 1 person, the opportunity for lying to get what you want is crazy. This is why we have due process.
@VICE We ( Indian mans) want more videos like this. Yesterday a woman was not charged with murder for killing her husband because her husband called her a prostitute. She was having an affair with her neighbour. Any rights left for men? What do we do?
+Vikram DAS Men are second class citizen in Indian law system. Men need to unite and be more vocal about men's rights only then men will get some rights.
@@anri8231 yes... Vote N.O.T.A. No political outfit gives a dime about your gender ,( ironically enough , most of the politicians are men) .. Campaign for Men 's commission...
And she told that her husband called her prostitute but we can't justify it as husband is not even alive to say his part. Who knows he didn't even said that.
Brothers if we men will just stop supporting women in every cases then of course women will stop doing these all things men only empower them now suffering
Feminism is about equal rights for men and women. But now, the actions of what feminism is doesn't match it's definition. Now it's about female superiority. Women above men, more rights for women, special treatment for women because their women. This isn't right or fair. As a woman myself, this sickens me. I feel awful for men in India and the USA that go through or have to interact with a 3rd Reich Feminist...
Ilene B. You believe the stereotype that has always existed about feminism. Since the movement started it has always been the same thing “women want to control men, women want to be superior, special treatment, etc.” if the feminist movement had listened to that you and I still wouldn’t have anything. And women obtained what they have because of men’s help, they were the ones who listened to us, our allies. We can believe the stereotype, but more than any other time in history men have been involved in the feminist movement. If you take any feminist courses, like I’ve had to take in university because it was a “woman’s university “ (men can attend) all the focus is the inclusion of men. I do agree their are extremist, but that doesn’t diminish the true meaning of the movement. Just how it is with religion, one extremist does not destroy the good of a religion
We don't need laws for individual groups, any one. We need one law for all humans regardless of race, color, creed, sex, sexual orientation political group or importance of position. If it's wrong then it's wrong for all humans, not curtain ones. An eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth ,is about equality of justice for all humans. No one eye or tooth is more important than any other, no matter who it belongs. Cl.
"Actually over 330,000 crimes against women in India a year." India has a population of 1,371,640,437. That makes India incredibly safe for women. BTW you notice that he didn't put up the statistics on crimes against men for comparison.
Just started this video, and I'm curious if they're going to mention the Indian man in poor villages who get kidnapped and are forced to married at gunpoint. Let's find out
When only a low number of rapes are eventually prosecuted it seems wrong to say that the justice system favours women...The justice system is not delivering justice to either men or women due to the nature of the crime...finding a solution to that is the hard thing
50% of rape cases registered in delhi captial of india are false cases these cases in the end when come into light, nothing happens. Men have lost his job, home, reputation even when he is not a bad guy in the scenario. but women gets to live i peace no charges against her for false cases. BTW these cases take average 5 year to conclude which means men are without job for 5 year with reputation tarnished.
Same thing happened with my uncle. She took all the money and jewellery and the baby . The case went on for 8 years. She asked 50 lakhs to settle the case
The problem is, feminists think talking about men's rights somehow invalidate the fight for women's rights. I don't understand how that works. Why not fight for both?
People in general want equal rights, but everywhere you turn they keep talking about Woman's Rights or Men's Rights. As long as you don't start talking about Human Rights, its a one sided conversation.
+alex I agree with you but women in India nowadays have FAR more rights than men. There is national commission for women and even for animals but not for men. If a man is harassed/raped/domestically abused by a woman he has zero legal protection hence men's rights is a much needed movement.
Women & animals first. " real Men have made this modern world where beta males " Firstly, that's sexist. Ironic coming from a mgtow. As for Alpha males, I thought they just did the fucking, and chased women, while Bata men invented stuff like electricity and computers and architecture,
Karuna Nandy correctly said that all laws are misused - we should address the misuse. But the way she scoffed is the problem - you cannot be so indifferent to this issue. There are been so many documented suicides due to the misuse. The problem is no one is ready to talk that these laws are infact being misued more often. There should be proper investigation & just the mere filing of case shouldn't mean the men be jailed (some of these offences are non bailable offences). In fact, the data you referred to shows that the conviction rate is low, which is a clear sign that laws are being only misused, and only in certain cases are they being properly utilized. Go to any lawyer in India, and they will have a ready made template of filing cases against husbands - 1. Dowry, 2. Domestic Violence 3. Maintenance. Men are given the choice to fight these in the court of law which take years, or else, make a settlement (usually in crores now a days - as seen in the video). The burden on proof lies on the prosecutor but the laws are so biased that the womens testimony is taken as gospel & due to this it is the men who have to produce proof & are therefore harassed unnecessarily in this case.
My brother is suffering from depression since 2 years after being raped by 3 women😞😞😞,those 3 women roam freely, only 6 months jail and that too most of the time they were out on bail, they roam freely around everywhere, no shame on them, imagine if it was opposite then my brother would probably have been hanged. Shame on such Indian society, my brother was only 17 at that time😭😭😭,he fears to go out now cause people think he is not a real man, Once I graduate I will fight for men's right and fight against this fucked up feminist society. "Feminism is worse than cancer"
Shane Williams you do realize that most of the mgtow memeber are not incel right there like people who got divorced rape, who were accused of false rape charge, be manipulated by women and could not see there kid because of there manipulative baby mama. In the mgtow community we call people like you “simp” because for a pussy you do anything without thinking with your head and instead thinking with your dick, you a simple man that can easily be manipulative hence why you are called a “simp”
@@ruzario18 he made fun of and berated victims of false accusations now he himself is a victim. Hopefully, those who blame rape victims would also face similar justice
@Hemlata Srivastava why?? Yes I have videos he posted . Have watched this vice video or r u blind he criticizes and berates victims here just to make a buck 💵. He never realised that he too could be a victim one day. Yes every definition of karama justice served right and on time . Those who show no mercy deserves no sympathy.
7:50 its not about the numbers, our justice system says it would leave a hundred guilty to save one innocent rather than scarificing 100 innocent to catch a guilty, but when it comes to mens rights, the justice system flicks their switch, that is the main thing, men's right movement is working for
Men’s right doesn’t mean anti-feminist. Not all men want to stifle the progress of women rather want to get acknowledged for the issues that they face as well. It’s not a case that one is more important than the other, but rather that women have a voice for their issues and the small groups of men who go through similar situations have no voice nor outlet..... You know what forget it...
So far you're one of the few making sense in the sea of sexist comments. Yup, human interactions are messy. But those who can't get along with even one woman sure as hell won't get along any better with men. And, as you said, it's not a zero sum game.
just for clarification is mr feminist here the same guy here "In October 2018, a number of allegations of Chakraborty's sexual impropriety surfaced on Twitter, several of which claimed that he had sent unsolicited and explicit messages. Following this, Chakraborty apologized for his transgressions. However, in a leaked call recording which surfaced in November 2019 between him and one of the prime accuser, Chakraborty challenged the authenticity of the allegations; he also claimed that the unverified allegations effectively destroyed his career, maligned his reputation, and made him suicidal."
This is a good thing. Kuch to kadam uthana zaroori hai, warna India b America ki tarah ban jayega jaha shadi hi alimony ke liye hoti h. Divorce hobby ban jata h.
The host of this video Utsav, who was calling the men in this video bigoted, himself got implicated for harrassment under the #MeToo campaign. lmao. Poetic justice.
I recently lost my job, thanks to my female colleague's false harassment complaints against me. Had a very bad nervous breakdown. My appetite has gone, friends deserted me and I had to leave my place. I Didn't tell this to anybody. I Am keeping this in my heart. Don't know whom to share my burden and embrassment with. 1. Guys and Girls, tell me what was my fault? 😢😢. 2.Why did my manager believe her? 3. Why did she do this? I was a supportive colleague to her. 4. Why was I shamed as a scum in the social media? I Am very depressed and disturbed. Don't know what to do now🤐🤐🤐🤐.
Does anyone in India remember Jasleen Kaur case?
how the woman destroyed a guy's life for 4 years and when the truth came out the woman wasn't even charged whereas the guy has to pay all the court fees
Yeah that guy deserved that girl
So what's ur poont, are they all lying cause of this one case
@@shanewilliams5150 the point is, she lied and ruined someone's life. Then didn't suffer any consequences as a result. And because she didn't suffer any consequences the guy still had to pay money to the court despite the fact that he was innocent.
@@shanewilliams5150 Bro the point his even after the truth,she faces no punishment nor any compensation was awarded to the victim
He paid every court fees and she is roaming freely whereas guy was fired from 2 jobs
Yeah that was Savage😄
Lmao the host was trolling the men's movement and now he is accused, and now he says it was false accusation.
What happened?
@@saandilyaagundu5697 girl accused him in mee too movement. He quit social media for a year and then posted screenshot of his innocence, which btw he might be, or not. On other side, girl is celebrated. And girl never moved to court, Just social media accusation.
And his carrier got destroyed.
That's what lord krishna said: KARMA
@@abhinav7302 what do you mean karma.i know the meaning of karma...
@@artistry._.4319 he's got what he deserved. He thought some men are just hysterical. He paid the price
@A R you again
so it looks like Utsav was overcompensating for his guilt
@Sam The Sham Media tends to exaggerate the situation. India is not as bad as media makes it out to be, especially in the urban areas. Also, majority of the rape cases in India are false.
@Sam The Sham by that logic, what are your views on gun ownership and gun use by police and civilians in usa? Sorry the usa not the republic of india. Double standards. Theres a stat.
@Sam The Sham You mean like 2nd amendment in USA. Our country will turn into Iraq and Syria.
No thanks.
53% of rape cases were false repirt by DCW 2013-2014.
@Sam The Sham Also, many go unreported.
@@anri8231 that's not true. India is one of the worst country for women. Especially in Delhi. Many cases go unreported in india as many families prefer to keep quiet then to file a complaint.
Irony is that, the feminist narrator Utsav Chakraborthy himself was accused of false Sexual Harassment🤣🤣
@Malhar Shelar Yeah! but karma kicked his balls for being a pathetic simp in this video.
🤣🤣🤣🤣good only might have changed his prospective and now might have learned his lesson ... after defamed and defended him self
@@rakshithm1257 as much as I hated how biased he was, no one deserves to be falsely accused. I pity what happened to him.
Ha yes I was thinking I have seen him some where what a simp he was
Nice and many many thanks to the Almighty.This is "Karma".He deserve that.
The guy hosting show for vice is quite biased. Hope this guy dosn't get falsely accused in 498a. Once he is, he will fall in line.
@@andy_the_monger1795 indeed
@@andy_the_monger1795 true
Its VICE they are left biased. They are not interested in doing a documentary but pushing their left narrative.
@Arindam Das it cant be more correct than this.
Exactly. VICE is fake news.
Just yesterday a boy committed suicide because a chick accused him of rape on social media(he was only 14 at that time by the way)
He was 17
@@Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet he was 14 when allegedly he harassed her
And Society wonders why men don't want to participate anymore.
@@akshatsaxena1431 then u r talking about someone else. This guy commented "YESTERDAY". and when I replied him, a day ago, some 17 years old teenager committed suicide
@@akshatsaxena1431 it was fake case
Most of idiots think woman can't be bad, they can't harm anyone. The same people thinks differently abled person can't be a criminal, it's their perception . By default the law is used to protect woman ( which is good), idiots think few can't misuse it !! Handful injustice is definitely injustice VICE
+Alex Tharoor It's not even handful lol. 50%+ domestic abuse and rape cases are false.
@@anri8231 70%
Law used to protect woman is not good... its bias
@Sagarika Mohapatra there is some places wich have nearly 70& 50% and some places have 10% Bro do Some more research And Give ur Knowledge To the people You edi*t
I have found more women do evil things than men.
It's a rare event that the reporter Utsav who is trying to push his feminist agenda by has become the victim of same!!! LMAO KARMA.!!!!
It's really not funny. He may have been biased, but no one deserves to falsely accused.
@@Nimish204 he deserved it. he was not believing them and then god gave him what he deserved to make him understand that men's rights movement is actually important.
@@Nimish204 😂😂 no sympathy for this kind of guys...let the feminists fight for his rights.
@@5TimesWCC truely said no sympathy for such ignorant simps
@@Sunny21256 they wont... well Utsav would be cursing his past self that's for sure...
it would be interesting if he comes up and accepts his mistake and biases he made in this video
and then fight for MRAs... that would be a good thing
his story would make MRAs get some good win
because he did this biased interview, and then he was the first casualty of the Me Too sh@t in India
his story would open eyes of a lot of men
no feminist came to help him, he must have felt bad and angry that the people he considered as just some dumbos were his brothers, but the people he thought to be friends were snakes
he might come up soon, its been 3 years btw, I hope he is alright, he has had no interaction on media since past 3 years
maybe he's depressed... a LOT
and feeling betrayed :(
That's why we want laws to be gender neutral for these things. It's not about men vs women....
Exactly.👏👍
I think this is a solution
But some people think it is men Vs women and fight unnecessarily...
This is exactly what we need, and uniform civil code is necessary for this country
krutika *cough* feminists
I am founder of SIFF and I was interviewed in this video. Lawyers suggest women to misuse dowry law so that they can demand 4 to 6 years of total income of a young guy as one time alimony. For example, a 28 year old male software engineer can get a demand of Rupees 4 to 7 million as one time alimony. If he and his family pay up, then the the complaint of section 498a (dowry law) is withdrawn. If they fail to cough up the money, then they proceed with the case. Now, is that not reverse dowry on men? Lawyers who are involved may also be getting a good tip if they can make a guy cough up such money.
The police in India are spineless here. That means, they can not dismiss a complaint of a woman even if they find it to be false. The feminists have made law makers to not give police these powers to dismiss a complaint. We do not deny crimes against men. We are not forcing Govt to withdraw pro-women laws or stop enacting new laws. We are just saying, Govt must put an end to false cases by punishing false accusers. We are also saying that just like USA, in India also men must get some protection from domestic violence, sexual harassment and stalking (from women). The feminists oppose punishment to false accusers and they want domestic violence against men to remain legal.
Hey Anil! So this is coming from a woman and a girlfriend of a person who has suffered through false allegations against him by a woman. The problem is even if the society is supportive, the lawyers are too shrewd for their own good. I hope you remember how much Nirbhaya's case was stalled just because of some people who knew how to play with the indian law. You're right about that. But I really want to know that what do you suggest to abolish the dowry related issues? Because clearly just banning it hasn't worked at all. People "gift" their daughters things and then only through those "gifts" the women's family start threatening the men's family. What can be done to abolish these trickeries?
@@shirleycharan8001 Well, I guess( and actually intend to do so in future) is creating an acknowledgement contract where details about those "gifts", financial cost undertaken by bride and groom's ceremony will be mentioned clearly and will be signed under a supervising lawyer. These will act as proofs that the man hasn't take any dowry and any "gift" given to bride is voluntarily given to her by her parents. And, I respect you for being there for your bf when he needed you the most. Women like you can help us to fight against the gender biased laws.
@@subhankarbaral9236 It’s sad a lawyer would have to get involved for men to even receive gifts.😌
@@yatinshah92 Well, different solutions for different times. Safeguarding yourself and your honor is what matters.
yesterday, 88 women were raped. but surely, why would you talk about that. look, gender equality is not a fight of men against women. its a fight of unjustice done to people only on sexual basis. understand that. i am a feminist and also a menimist. but i had rather call myself a gender equalist bcoz both the sides are not asking for opposite things. yes, men are wrongly convicted sometimes, but then why do you think the court is so tilted towards women in rape cases?...simple, the number of rape cases are just too high. thats where the problem lies. the problem is not the law, its the sexism.
The reporter Vice hired for this segment on women's right, as seen in the video, is accused of sexual harrasment that too with minors and was actually the first casualty of India's #MeToo movement. Wonder what he has to say now ? What Vice has to say now ?
Rekt.
Tables have turned, Danish... Mahima Crook reja seems to have been cooking up some stale pot soup
me 2 movement is a joke
There are 2 sides to a coin
Just like many men, you seem to have not dug enough on the story and assumed the single facet of the coin to be true.
Do some homework.
We need a respected Men's rights group in every country. Us men are humans as well.
American men should come forward in unity all feminist will destroy men's life
@@srigorakhnath1297 If you mean feminists, who tend to be strongly female-first, and not women, then i agree.
@@pebblepod30 why u women hate us men we are your friends not enemy
@@srigorakhnath1297 I am a male, and not feminist either
@@pebblepod30 well law should be gender neutral buddy
You will never want to be in one of those "handful of cases" because:
1. No one will hear you out
2. The ones who do see it will call it a "handful"
But trust me, you will be shaken for life.
I cant understand how Non Indians/Foreigners got guts to say that cases of Vineeth are handfull?? Sorry mates you need to come to India and spend sometime here to know the truth.
DUDAH Sir very nice of you to ponder on that side of the coin aswell else every person around the world by default regarded Indian Men as oppressor and Indian Women as victim.
The reporter is clearly driving a feminist agenda, the video shows him asking preloaded biased borderline accusatory questions and abruptly cut off on any reasonable answers, and starts with his own feminist narrative.
With the current system and laws set against men in India, it's better to be a MGTOW or if already married then record/document everything.
I think he (reporter) was accused of exploiting a minor girl himself, if I am not wrong.
Dude this is vice, they do it all the time.
He said in America Man's rights activists are racist hate groups lol
So basically Women's rights good
Men's Rights bad
White men rights "Nazis"
@Spammu Doggo Feminists are stupid, that female lawyer proved that. What is fight against patriarchy? Nobody gives a fuck about it. It doesn't exists. It's same victimhood problems that she was claiming men have are problems feminists have.
Cool story bro. Where did u get that tho? Oh yeah. NOWHERE IN THE REAL WORLD. Now stop living in ur fictional world called the “manosphere” & start living in reality.
people say "you should not laugh at someone's pain or same thing will happen to you" , I am seeing this in reality...
How
@@revanthganesh3808 this Utsav guy, the host, who was trolling men's rights movement, was shortly falsely accused by a woman comedian... and his entire career ended overnight and no one believed him
well... karma? seems like it
either ways, even if was biased, and now is getting this under karma, still I wish him the best, atleast now he knows why men's rights are important... still I feel like no one should suffer, not even him... coz he is a human afterall, they commit mistakes.... I wish the best for him
@@lightyagami5483 I totally understand your feeling bro.. I too am like you
"we are a generation of men raised by women"~tyler durden
ManOFSteel ... maybe men should stick around to raise their children more? Women do? 🙃😴
@@denisewhite3902 not as simple as that. In my case my mom was the one that raised me more than my dad. She was the one that wore the pants lmao. Either way as guys we're taught that getting abused or harassed by women is completely normal. I always saw it happening growing up but it became so normalized that it was hardly noticeable. Sometimes I'd get hit with a machete or one of those big knives. The whole time I just thought it was normal. I've always been told I'm a guy I can take it. I still have those scars.
@@von6413 what you doing when some idiot is beating you?don't you complain to police or someone?
@@alexdaddario6848 I tried, but no one took it serious lol. Other than that, as a kid I got threatened so I never said anything. I’ve moved out by now tho so yeah.
@@von6413 huh bruh feel sad for you..as a girl there are someone to help me but 😖our laws are trash and society treating men as rocks which dont have feelings
As an Indian man, I support every right of women, need their protection, against dowry, their objectification, same rights as men but I'm still not a feminist. It's a cancer.
+Queen Women already have all the rights to protect themselves, men on the other hand not so much.
Yes me too
cancer is a cell mutation
@@eb.3764 I see no difference
You just described me, bro
Just because crimes against women are high doesn't mean men have to face injustice.
There's no way we are going to resolve this situation if we don't work at it together...i think everyone understands that just because loads of women get sexually abused doesn't mean loads of men are sexual abusers, that is simple logic and not the problematic issue here
We have to work together only when women can be held accountable for their act!
Sarah L Yes it does Sarah - it means that loads of men are sexual abusers. That's _exactly_ what it means. It is illogical to conclude anything else. Too many men, especially in India, are instructed from birth that women and very young girls have to observe a long list of conditions if they don't want to _go and get themselves raped._
With the case of the Indian woman who literally got raped to death via four men and an iron bar (she died in agony two weeks later) - she had the nerve to be traveling to a cinema on a bus with a man to whom she wasn't married.
Her rapists and murderers pleaded "fair game." All of them. Four grown men sadistically, savagely, raped a woman to death on a public bus. Think deeply about this next comment: NOT ONE DISSENTING VOICE. NOT ONE OF THEM SAID, "No, this is insanity; This is unthinkably cruel." If not the evil savagery demonstrated in that sickening attack, that sense of _entitlement_ happens too often in India among the men. The practicing of witholding women's passports or other insidious ways of putting women in effective or literal purdah - for women's _protection._
This mindest is clearly instructing society that women need protection from cruel men who wish to harm them. What they get wrong, time after time, is that when you instruct society that certain women ( and sadly, very young girls ) are 'fair game' if they do not observe some RIDICULOUS conditions, you fail women in India. I don't believe that highly-educated Indian men would hold such contemptuous views of women. Clearly it's the uneducated men expressing rank misogyny. But Sarah, *there are are many millions of them.* Stop failing Indian women by appeasing uncaring, (frankly coddled) men.
The very idea that India needs a men's rights movement is a Very. Sick. Joke. I'm not laughing.
name men's rights issues in india
In formal logic it does not follow that if lots of women are raped then lots of men are rapists. It may be the case but it is not a logically sound conclusion. I don't live in India so I can't make judgments as to how deeply damaging the patriarchy runs...it seems fair to say that centuries of men going unaccountable for their acts have lead to this situation. It may take a while for the situation to find some sort of fairness but let's face it...anyone would rather be a man facing temporary potential injustice than be a woman. Does someone who has more knowledge know if class also plays into this? It would seem strange to think not....
MRA is not a “hate group”. It is simply a group that acknowledges that all humans have issues.
true
Agreed
Agreed
💯
its certainly not a hate group, but it's definitely a "oh people other than us are finally getting the good treatment they deserve but now the spotlights off of us so we're going to "solve" problems we "experience" that don't exist so plz pity uwu" kinda group
This movement must be spread throughout India........Because 99.5% laws are not helping men when he faces domestic violence... Kindly spread this movement every state....
This movement is important but these guys are doing that much we need social media support and yt channel specific for men and men's right,,there are so,many channel for women like "jfw,fzone,etc" which is ironic but nothing for men in Indian yt is sad
@@artistry._.4319 "but nothing for men in Indian yt" then that's your problem that you couldn't be bothered to search for them.
This year has been amazing for the men's rights movement. We'll see in other years.
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This is the dumest movement their is
I am not against men's rights , but this movement just brings men who have been falsely accused/other issues and convience them that it's cuz if feminism
It doesn't work for men at all
Just bashing women /fEmIniSm
@@r3dghok427 that would be wonderful if it’s true. Do you really see any changes or at least men waking up and fighting for themselves?
*5:48 i hate that music....its in every video made by non Indians on India
They do the same shit with African vids too
bhuvan garg shehnai intensifies!
Probably the non-American made videos on America uses country music with banjos if it's in a rural area, and rap music for urban scenes.
bhuvan garg stereotypical of them.
it feels like when we used to doordarshan in early 2000
Can’t trust humans anymore
I’ll just adopt my self a dog
Animals are more trustworthy
TOP THINKERS that’s why they’re women
It’s a cute part of them 😂
TOP THINKERS they’re overgrown kids
Some women are terrible some are really good
Generalising all women to be terrible would bring a bad name to those who are decent
@TOP THINKERS true
@Kevin Sanshiro It's much better if you stick with men if you enjoy a big head.
my dog left me for another owner after I spent all my earnings to feed her
Great to see my brothers in India are standing up for themselves. Stay strong.Kings.
@Aayush Kumar Its been 4 years and still nothing has happened. What a fucking piece of judiciary.
That’s wonderful that they’re bringing these issues to light! You go boys!!
@United Provinces of Planet Earth wtf
@United Provinces of Planet Earth I'm a proud grasstouching fascist 😤
Hopefully it will bring in some changes🥺men in India really need to rise and speak up and fight back
Most people here isn't getting the real agenda behind the movement. Innocent men are falsely accused very easily in case of dowry or rape. Nobody is telling that the rapists or the wife abusers should be let free. We need proper laws which protect men in such false accusation cases. If you all are so against men having those rights to protect themselves when falsely accused then women shouldn't have it either. BTW what had been the punishment for all the women offenders of false accusation of rape or dowry?
How about not taking dowry from bride at all? Its cruel pratice anyway, if men right's activists cared about equality they would work against dowry, right?
Sally Khaidem sometimes woman has to take those steps she doesn't want that marriage or it's a forced marriage you . See a women just cannot go away from that marriage for that they have get that reason
Isn't the central problem here that due to the nature of the crime, innocence and guilt is so hard to ascertain. What percentage of falsely reported rapes would you think can actually be proved as falsely reported rapes? Same with correctly reported rapes...only a tiny number will be prosecuted. The majority of rape cases lie in the middle surely? Our focus should be on what to do in those majority of cases...anonymity until the accusations about an individual start to stack up???
Sally Khaidem: I agree with you... However, if there is a major problem with rape and spousal abuse then that is really the problem. I would suggest that the group of men that are focused on this movement should join with the groups of women that have been traumatized and become allies. Together they can support each other. A man within that country supporting egalitarianism would set himself apart from the people that feel rape or abuse is acceptable. I have experienced sexual trauma in my life so I understand the issues about reporting it and the shame it can bring, I also have two sons who I am raising to be good partners but also that they protect themselves from being falsely accused.
Men and women need to work together against sexism to both men and women. Feminism attempts to do this but unfortunately many on both sides have misinterpreted feminism. True feminism is aimed at social constructs and roles not against men. However the social constructs whilst arnt favourable to men are far worse for women it is clear as day. This is not to silence the voice of men as their issues are equally as valid. We do not need to turn this into a war of sexes but a war against injustice.
LET'S GO OUR OWN WAY
"MEN GOING THEIR OWN WAY"
Gay
@@C4ioPereira20 we know u are gay
@@medobrundo421 your last name Bruno is name of a gay movie
@@C4ioPereira20 lol its not my last name, i took this one because i care about my privacy u fool
@@C4ioPereira20 you have a problem with gay people.
Looks like MGTOW is everywhere, no country uneffected, amen brothers. Greetings from UK
It should be worldwide and mens come on be more strong
@Sam Houser 👍
Kenya, South Africa and Nigeria are the African MGTOW hotspots.. Here we go!!
We actually got the RSS/Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (male only) that is led by unmarried men and is the parent organisation of India's ruling party BJP (that has a majority in the central parliament as well as majority presence in the most populous states). Celibate men (theoretically) are immune from sexual overtures and in some ways the leverage women have over men, so they think from a different viewpoint
The RSS is atleast 10-20million strong
And after nearly a century of being founded it has now occupied a prominent position is the cultural and political discourse.....they are openly anti feminists btw
They reject modern feminism as a western Woodstock fad ...... I would expect changes in many non gender neutral laws in the coming decades, it would seem we are heading back to a "traditional" outlook
Only loser men like you will do that lol. A perfect men will always get a perfect girl and will be the perfect partners forever.
People in the comments probably watched a few episodes BBC and CNN news and judged a entire country of 1.2 billion people.
Pushyamitra Shunga that's westerners for you
Your country is shithole btw, with men rights movement in a country with mass rapes it's even more shittier !
Of course not everyone's involved but we have to look at what's enabling it and why is it so. India is still hugely disproportionate country in terms of wealth and economy and caste system is still alive and well. Add to that how religion plays a huge part in Indian lives, an old doctrine and practices that still put women in an archaic role for the most part. Up until recently in most cases rape victims have blamed not the men. You have men throwing acids on women who refuse their courtship. And from what I read domestic violence are also high, even though much of it isn't even reported. And it gets even worse in rural states.
Now I'm sure there are men who gets abused and there are the female who does the abusing. But by in large, it's the unique blend of above factors I mentioned why India is still not a civilized place for women in comparison to most other first world countries.
Robert Oppenheimer get a life dude you are on every Indian video...your so much on every video that now people don't even take your comments seriously
Mr.Fake account holder spotted . you hide behind the fake name because you are scared that people will come up with good logical reasoning to show you your position.
The reporter seems to have his own agenda. But we all know law is being misused.
It's because he's an idiot. But what else can you expect from VICE? These people value social justice over individual justice.
He recognized his bias, he said he was ready to meet people that were just against women. And that some of the guys he met are just trying to get out of a bad situation. The reporting seemed honest
vice leans left
I feel the same , his entire vocal was was to shun us and support femnist from every word. this is really bad journalism , bad of vice India
Is it because he brought up statistics that prove the people that he's talking to are a little misguided? He talked about who he thought he was going to meet and how they were very much different, but with a couple of changes. He's right about the main guy in the story though, it seems like he's more in need of legal advice than a bunch of dudes coming together to complain.
The supreme court judge made an interesting point on false positive and false negatives. The law was set up in a way of innocent until proven guilty. So it would rather let free a criminal in absence of enough evidence than to punish an innocent person. So the problem of even 8% false rape cases is a more serious problem.
My indian brothers are finally seeing the truth like men see in the United States. MGTOW
Unfortunately they are saying U.S. MRA's are a "fringe hate group" here but that may have been editing. Either way, it shows you the power of media agenda. Just like the fact that fear sells,humans protect women and then the whole "spin" isn't a mystery anymore.
@@jloren5662 This anchor is now accused of sexually harassing minor girls. It's called karma.
www.hindustantimes.com/tv/comedian-utsav-chakraborty-accused-of-sexually-harassing-minor-girls-aib-makes-statement/story-piswnvVhYVHHneNx0aaWbJ.html
You lose me when you say a 'handful' of cases against men. Such a biased reporting. Simon Go Back!!!!
Harshit Pant so true
54% rape claims are false...what about the family, life and job of those poor men? How much would they have got ashamed?
a k no one cares for men not even men themselves
@hayder tellez.....we are talking about situation in India where 54% cases are fake...across the world would be a different scenario!
Hahaha the simon go back part is funny
How does it feel now utsav chakraborthy
you mean feminists?
He is a feminist simp and he deserves it
m.hindustantimes.com/india-news/sc-grants-bail-to-77-year-old-rape-accused-on-dna-evidence/story-QA8hi6fi4fIITGntqKTlGI.html
He got what he deserved.
No sympathy for him
@@Yash-vh3ns but aib also faced everything with him.
Good days of Utsav before #MeToo movement 😂
Hes enjoying the feminist movement now.
2:47 "I was a feminist until I knew that even men can have problems" That line gets me.
Why can't he be both feminist as well as men s right activist
@@ft.xsammy why can't women be both feminist and men's right activist
@@ft.xsammy if you are a feminist you are talking up for men too....feminism focuses on equality and that includes men too....Feminism = Everyone gets equal rights(including men)
@@jooniegirl1929 Tell that to millions of men suffering due to feminism
@@somerandomguy9997 Why is it so hard to understand for you guys. Feminism means both being mens right activists and womens right activists.
2:47 Says, _"I was a feminist until I knew that even men can have problems."_
Dude doesn't understand feminism
Haha im sure hell change his opinion as soon as he knows the real definition of feminism
You can talk about definition all you want, but name one time that the feminist movement have ever helped with mens rights.
Adam feminsim is about social relations between both sexes. Boys being told not to cry is problem, being taught that they should do "manly" things is bad for them, teaching them bad ways to deal with their emotions is horrible for them and for the women in their lives. So there are alot of ways for lives of men to improve if they are aware of these issues, they need femininism just as much as women did it.
Child abuse is a great contribution of the feminist movement. Infanticide is the other. They are all very positive outcomes.
Well, does Utsav Chakraborty himself relate with men's rights and what a man goes through now after the charges imposed on him by Mahima Kukreja and her sister? I feel sorry for him now, as a fellow man...
Prayers for the men in India.
I pray for women in india as well
Pray for both
Notice how all of them are unatractive i'm. Telling you people looks IS every things
@@zmanzizou1461 if looks is everything then why did those women married them in the first place ???
@@shivamchakraborty-Money stabilité not having a job not getting thé man they want being poor no safe Jobs for women family and tradition if they had the choice for a more attractive man trust me they will not say no to him and woman and men dont even like they race in india they want to have White skin its very sad bro but that a black pill for you
Men standing up for themselves, Great!
Hell yeah fight the power
Look ! Not all women are bad !
@@annikasengupta9085 rebelling for those women who made a false accusation in terms of relationship case, not all women.
@@annikasengupta9085 Oh! Lord! No! Definitely women are not all bad! They are our mothers, sisters, wives, colleagues and friends.
The issue here is that the laws in India are very bad and savagely unfair towards men. What is needed is to make the laws fair to all citizens of the country.
mgtow brothers
The first step for men to start regaining their power and self-respect is to boycott companies like Gillette who engage in male-bashing advertising.
Men never lost their power what are you talking about?
@@rutha2403 In India, if you are a female. You can easily punish a man (for being a man). In lucknow, a girl was crossing a road. And a cabbie almost stopped the car and didn’t hit her. It was her faulty way of crossing the road. However, she started beating and humiliating him. At the end, the poor cabbie had to pay Rs10000 (which is one third of annual per capita income of India, and cabbie’s are not very rich). While the girl (who was a teacher) Had to pay only Rs100. And you can check the CCTVs if you want.
Girls are too much powerful over guys because law makes them powerful.
@@rutha2403
Hello Ruth, Why did you not answer Kritik? No, Men in many areas do not have equal power or rights, and I believe in Equality of the sexes, not in fighting against one gender.
And if you believe in equality (instead of female first sexist feminism), would you not also want men to be equal?
Would you also not want false accusers to get heavy penalties for destroying someone's life; or equality before the law & presumption of innocence (like any other crime) when accused?
Would you not stand for fair & equal standards in alimony?
@@rutha2403 Here is a response to this sexist Vice documentry, from a Woman who stands for equality:
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@@rutha2403 Are you familiar with the book "The Myth of Male Power" by Warren Farrell? Or the work of MRA's like Janice Fiamenco, Christina Hoff Sommers, Karen Stroughan or Warren Farrell?
They stand for men & women being equal, but emphasize the areas where males are not equal. They have way, way less power than Feminists, as can be easily shown by making some comparisons, even when numbers are male dominated. Unlike Feminists, they don't tend to throw another gender under the Bus to do it. And unlike Feminists, they are happy to be led by the opposite gender too.
Boycott all romantic relationships
Boycott marriage
No wife awesome life
#Mgtow4life
I totally support mgtow to far very far build you own society of men and live there dont come
@@hazzasgayvodka4177 own society lol this society u live was built by men and mens blood so u can leave
Yesssssssss👏👏
True
Woohooo more girls!
Notice how she looks up and to the left when she says "that's a widespread myth".
When i broke up with my GF she went crazy called the police and she lied to them i pulled a Knife on her. And i was Suicidal .. the NYPD show up at my job arrest me. After 2 months of back-and-forth in court she told the prosecutor that she might have seen me pick up my keys instead of a knife charges were dropped immediately but I was humiliated at work and 2 months of my time and 40 hours at lock up at central booking 1st day to see the judge before I was released on my own no bail thank good but she never got locked up. She also keyed my car Flatten my tires that was over 5 years ago i still
Watch my back ps. Never trust a Bar girl. That how i met her
bret too ...if this would have happened in India, then judicial system would be so slow that it would take a years time to clear the case.
virtualatall well i can see how some people can take the law into their own hand in India or any other south asian country somce the courts are too slow. I am all for courts. And no Violence
I'm sorry, brother. NYPD, I'm glad you are still alive.
bret too avoid bars
You can't fully trust any girl
this is because of school. In Indian school, if a girl did something and the boy did something, the girl would be applauded. Teachers completely ignore if a boy is getting good marks, if a girl is getting good marks, she is selected for all the activities
Happened to me. Scored top marks for 4 years in a row but never got any awards or appreciation from the school while a girl got to be the public speaker and school spokeswoman 24/7
I'm flying to Delhi now to support my brothers in Men's Rights, who shall join me?
im a feminist but ill join.i support what there working for. :)
@@zcisla2604 Then you’re not a feminist.
Please help the men's rights people in America they need your help they maybe from a different country but their still brothers
@@provablegrub4581 femenist : people who want equal rights
Men hate : Women are more equal than men
@@jackhoffmanhoffman35 then you definitely should go!
MGTOW is growing everywhere. Praise Barbara Lerner spectre.
I wish Utsav Chakraborty faces the same fate as some of these men's rights activists someday. We'll see what he has to say about women's rights then.
ishant 7 welcome brother
I called it! 😂
@Roh Fer I know that. He has admitted to it but I'm just referring to the part where Karma gives him a choke slam. 😂
Your wish came true
Who cares?
karma bro!! i was frustrated too after watching how biased he was. So i came back to this video after knowing about his allegations and i can't be more happy 👌
I wish their is a group called “Human Rights”
Why? Would you say that about the feminist movement
@@theelectricprince8231 Feminism would be called equalism if it were for equality - no?
Holy fuck! I've had lecture about editing and the power of it. There are something called as 'Ethics of editing'. This video is edited to fit their narrative and bias rather than being a source of unbiased insight and I despise that. Eeeesh 🤮
Thiru why studying a useless course.
"a handful of false accusations" - it's unknowable how many false accusations there are, we only know about the ones that are caught. But when you base guilt on the testimony of 1 person, the opportunity for lying to get what you want is crazy.
This is why we have due process.
53% of rape cases in delhi, the "rape" capital of the world are false
Its pretty sad and ironic that the host, Utsav Chakraborty himself faced fake MeToo allegations later
@VICE
We ( Indian mans) want more videos like this.
Yesterday a woman was not charged with murder for killing her husband because her husband called her a prostitute. She was having an affair with her neighbour.
Any rights left for men?
What do we do?
+Vikram DAS Men are second class citizen in Indian law system. Men need to unite and be more vocal about men's rights only then men will get some rights.
@@anri8231 yes...
Vote N.O.T.A.
No political outfit gives a dime about your gender ,( ironically enough , most of the politicians are men) ..
Campaign for Men 's commission...
And she told that her husband called her prostitute but we can't justify it as husband is not even alive to say his part. Who knows he didn't even said that.
Brothers if we men will just stop supporting women in every cases then of course women will stop doing these all things men only empower them now suffering
If feminist are in our world....then
Meninist should be....
Then will be EQUALITY.
Mr. S someone doesn’t know what feminism is
They don't know about it...
but they perfectly know to how harassed to men..
Mr. S feminism is about women AND MEN. Equality of the sexes, people do not educate themselves properly to know what it truly is and what it means
Feminism is about equal rights for men and women. But now, the actions of what feminism is doesn't match it's definition. Now it's about female superiority. Women above men, more rights for women, special treatment for women because their women. This isn't right or fair. As a woman myself, this sickens me. I feel awful for men in India and the USA that go through or have to interact with a 3rd Reich Feminist...
Ilene B. You believe the stereotype that has always existed about feminism. Since the movement started it has always been the same thing “women want to control men, women want to be superior, special treatment, etc.” if the feminist movement had listened to that you and I still wouldn’t have anything. And women obtained what they have because of men’s help, they were the ones who listened to us, our allies. We can believe the stereotype, but more than any other time in history men have been involved in the feminist movement. If you take any feminist courses, like I’ve had to take in university because it was a “woman’s university “ (men can attend) all the focus is the inclusion of men. I do agree their are extremist, but that doesn’t diminish the true meaning of the movement. Just how it is with religion, one extremist does not destroy the good of a religion
Mens rights and empowerment is the need of the hour.
men always wanna be the victims lmao
We don't need laws for individual groups, any one. We need one law for all humans regardless of race, color, creed, sex, sexual orientation political group or importance of position. If it's wrong then it's wrong for all humans, not curtain ones. An eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth ,is about equality of justice for all humans. No one eye or tooth is more important than any other, no matter who it belongs. Cl.
nobody thought that, you dolt, just because a certain group got rights they deserved doesn't mean yours are being taken away.
I always wanted to join one like this.. recently I saw this documentary "the red pill " I think I gonna join this men's right movement...
No
The only option left for men is to go mgtow! MGTOW!
"Actually over 330,000 crimes against women in India a year." India has a population of 1,371,640,437. That makes India incredibly safe for women.
BTW you notice that he didn't put up the statistics on crimes against men for comparison.
Another burn body found that's probably gangraped before murdered
I pray for the indian women/girls safety
@@youtubeaccount6625And what happened to those rapists you should read about that too
I hope the anchor saw this interview months later to take advise for himself.
I support this movement
Just started this video, and I'm curious if they're going to mention the Indian man in poor villages who get kidnapped and are forced to married at gunpoint. Let's find out
falsely accused men in jail: dekho kaun aya hai "ustav" ki tayari karo!
ustav: 😭😭😭
"I was looking for justice, and so I googled it. "
makes sense to look up sources.......what are you implying?
@@somkeshav4143 I think he's trying to say that Google filters it's search results.
@@TheCuriousViewer567 I am not sure. The original commentator ain't responding...........
@@somkeshav4143 ... That there's no justice for men in real world 🤦🤦
tim serious I don’t believe that, trust me there are stories of men that do get justice from women
The justice system favoring woman is wrong. Each party should have a fair chance to defend themselves.
When only a low number of rapes are eventually prosecuted it seems wrong to say that the justice system favours women...The justice system is not delivering justice to either men or women due to the nature of the crime...finding a solution to that is the hard thing
50% of rape cases registered in delhi captial of india are false cases these cases in the end when come into light, nothing happens. Men have lost his job, home, reputation even when he is not a bad guy in the scenario. but women gets to live i peace no charges against her for false cases. BTW these cases take average 5 year to conclude which means men are without job for 5 year with reputation tarnished.
I love poems that use emojis! So post-modern 💪💪💪
Need to work on your rhyming skills though
@@sarahl3721 You must read the previous comments
Utsav, you considerate soul, make a video on women's rights now, will ya?
Yeah😂😂 best example of irony
There r too many
But this for men because female always had rights they are just afriad to use it.
@@mysticstrikeforce5957 One can say the same about men who are frightened of their wives
I got to know the whole story of Utsav today. I hope he too gets his rights and career back.
Probably not. Because his life is more or less ruined. Ironic that a female's words can do so much damage.
Bill Burr is one of the best men's rights Mascot....with humour this guy has addressed all that a man has to face in a feminist world!!!
Only in India can a women slap a man for no reason, and get away with it without any consequences
Same thing happened with my uncle. She took all the money and jewellery and the baby . The case went on for 8 years. She asked 50 lakhs to settle the case
The problem is, feminists think talking about men's rights somehow invalidate the fight for women's rights. I don't understand how that works. Why not fight for both?
Yes. Men and Women must unite an fight against the criminals.
Hope everyone think like you.
People in general want equal rights, but everywhere you turn they keep talking about Woman's Rights or Men's Rights. As long as you don't start talking about Human Rights, its a one sided conversation.
alexa yeah correct human rights should have top priority.
+alex I agree with you but women in India nowadays have FAR more rights than men. There is national commission for women and even for animals but not for men. If a man is harassed/raped/domestically abused by a woman he has zero legal protection hence men's rights is a much needed movement.
Women & animals first.
" real Men have made this modern world where beta males "
Firstly, that's sexist. Ironic coming from a mgtow. As for Alpha males, I thought they just did the fucking, and chased women, while Bata men invented stuff like electricity and computers and architecture,
@DUDAH nope
@DUDAH *Is and nope. No one one was created to for any specific reason.
Good for them! Men should be equal in law and cultural norms to women and women should be equal in law and cultural norms to men.
Best comment ever!👍
Karuna Nandy correctly said that all laws are misused - we should address the misuse. But the way she scoffed is the problem - you cannot be so indifferent to this issue. There are been so many documented suicides due to the misuse.
The problem is no one is ready to talk that these laws are infact being misued more often.
There should be proper investigation & just the mere filing of case shouldn't mean the men be jailed (some of these offences are non bailable offences).
In fact, the data you referred to shows that the conviction rate is low, which is a clear sign that laws are being only misused, and only in certain cases are they being properly utilized.
Go to any lawyer in India, and they will have a ready made template of filing cases against husbands - 1. Dowry, 2. Domestic Violence 3. Maintenance. Men are given the choice to fight these in the court of law which take years, or else, make a settlement (usually in crores now a days - as seen in the video). The burden on proof lies on the prosecutor but the laws are so biased that the womens testimony is taken as gospel & due to this it is the men who have to produce proof & are therefore harassed unnecessarily in this case.
shes a great lawyer.
Welcome to red pill 💊 boys
What took you so long ?
Love to all my brothers from Canada 🇨🇦
Agree,men's right is growing and politicians must take their needs seriously else get ready to be kicked out just like Congress got kicked out.
👏👏👏 You have my support my Indian brothers!
It's time to expand the manosphere worldwide!
Redpills and MGTOWs unite!
Wishing all Mens
Happy International Mens Day in advance
Based💯💯🗿🗿
Greetings Indian friends. 🤝
My brother is suffering from depression since 2 years after being raped by 3 women😞😞😞,those 3 women roam freely, only 6 months jail and that too most of the time they were out on bail, they roam freely around everywhere, no shame on them, imagine if it was opposite then my brother would probably have been hanged. Shame on such Indian society, my brother was only 17 at that time😭😭😭,he fears to go out now cause people think he is not a real man, Once I graduate I will fight for men's right and fight against this fucked up feminist society. "Feminism is worse than cancer"
We should stand up for men's rights, it's high time
I'm disappointed Vice.
An interviewer should never argue with their interviewee.
MGTOW is the answer guys!
Naw get laid incel
Shane Williams you do realize that most of the mgtow memeber are not incel right there like people who got divorced rape, who were accused of false rape charge, be manipulated by women and could not see there kid because of there manipulative baby mama.
In the mgtow community we call people like you “simp” because for a pussy you do anything without thinking with your head and instead thinking with your dick, you a simple man that can easily be manipulative hence why you are called a “simp”
MGTOW 4 LIFE NUFF SAID, TO ALL MY MGTOW BROTHERS STAND TALL STAND STRONG AND STAND PROUD 👍👍👊👊👊
@@shanewilliams5150 most incels are American whites ,not curries ...because curryland has arranged marriage .
Whats MGTOW?
Is no one going to point out the irony of this video here? The host, Utsav was brought to depression and self harm due to false allegations
Vice puts out edited videos taking it out of context.
No Name so true man. The video is comppetely baised and completely FEMINIST.
What context was missing?
I agree for men's right Commission because we need a strength
It will take time for people to really really understand Equality, which should all men or women thrive for.
Can someone check if utsav has joined this club after his incident.😂😂😂
Alimony = the reverse dowry.
Bro, Dowry is one time, Alimony is lifetime.
@@kingvegeta7301 You have a point.
When Mr pervert shames other men
Well the story is different now, with the recordings etc that were leaked
@@ruzario18 he deserves it it's karma
@@erica8332 more than karma, I'd say it's a publicity stunt gone wrong. From either sides. 🤷🏻♂️
@@ruzario18 he made fun of and berated victims of false accusations now he himself is a victim. Hopefully, those who blame rape victims would also face similar justice
@Hemlata Srivastava why?? Yes I have videos he posted . Have watched this vice video or r u blind he criticizes and berates victims here just to make a buck 💵. He never realised that he too could be a victim one day. Yes every definition of karama justice served right and on time . Those who show no mercy deserves no sympathy.
7:50 its not about the numbers, our justice system says it would leave a hundred guilty to save one innocent rather than scarificing 100 innocent to catch a guilty, but when it comes to mens rights, the justice system flicks their switch, that is the main thing, men's right movement is working for
Men’s right doesn’t mean anti-feminist. Not all men want to stifle the progress of women rather want to get acknowledged for the issues that they face as well. It’s not a case that one is more important than the other, but rather that women have a voice for their issues and the small groups of men who go through similar situations have no voice nor outlet.....
You know what forget it...
So far you're one of the few making sense in the sea of sexist comments. Yup, human interactions are messy. But those who can't get along with even one woman sure as hell won't get along any better with men. And, as you said, it's not a zero sum game.
All men should rally together for men's rights. Now that's exactly. Every country should have this
Yes this is what we need.Time for men to stand up and take back their rights and freedom.
Lovely hit piece you did there, no mention of Groom theft?
mrspeigle1 completely agree.. let’s also talk about dowry (which leads to groom kidnapping) and female infanticide.
What is groom theft?
Dr0pkidd girl's family kidnaps some guy and force him to marry their girl.
mrspeigle1 does that still happen in India today? Same for female infantcide, still happens today?
Nnn Nnn sounds like Kyrgyzstan
just for clarification is mr feminist here the same guy here
"In October 2018, a number of allegations of Chakraborty's sexual impropriety surfaced on Twitter, several of which claimed that he had sent unsolicited and explicit messages. Following this, Chakraborty apologized for his transgressions. However, in a leaked call recording which surfaced in November 2019 between him and one of the prime accuser, Chakraborty challenged the authenticity of the allegations; he also claimed that the unverified allegations effectively destroyed his career, maligned his reputation, and made him suicidal."
if yes now you know the need of mens right right?
carreer destroyed and got suicidal oh is that an issue probably not according to you
So now he must run 🏃💨 to same men's rights activists to same his life.
This is a good thing. Kuch to kadam uthana zaroori hai, warna India b America ki tarah ban jayega jaha shadi hi alimony ke liye hoti h. Divorce hobby ban jata h.
The host of this video Utsav, who was calling the men in this video bigoted, himself got implicated for harrassment under the #MeToo campaign. lmao. Poetic justice.
Sweet Sweet justice
And he was found innocent
@@diwakarsingh5056 Which makes it even funnier
Yeah and you are clueless
Yep. Hope he learns his own karma
India need "Husbund protection law"
@@zcisla2604 It's quite rare to see a feminist supporting men's right movement. 👍
@@Baladwitya feminism meaning gender equality
@@mr.marinoyt7993
On the paper for sure. On the practice is only about women supremacy. Periodt.
@@mr.marinoyt7993 Feminism mean proti৳ution
Dowry before marriage is considered as a sin
But money after divorce is good according that female lawyer
That is the hypocrisy of feminism
I recently lost my job, thanks to my female colleague's false harassment complaints against me.
Had a very bad nervous breakdown. My appetite has gone, friends deserted me and I had to leave my place. I Didn't tell this to anybody. I Am keeping this in my heart. Don't know whom to share my burden and embrassment with.
1. Guys and Girls, tell me what was my fault? 😢😢.
2.Why did my manager believe her?
3. Why did she do this? I was a supportive colleague to her.
4. Why was I shamed as a scum in the social media?
I Am very depressed and disturbed. Don't know what to do now🤐🤐🤐🤐.
If true, leave India and settle somewhere else. You don't need to protect this country anymore. Sorry brother, if I could have done any help but...
Rip
Don't leave hope brother