@@wayfaringstrangerthats the thing, he had everything to lose and obviously lived for a lot of great values. If only he had an army of media supporting him
Worse yet, McKinney and united Healthcare convinced the UK to start privatizing the NHS back in the 70s. These two American companies convinced Thatcher that the NHS needs to be a profitable business when that is exactly opposite of what the NHS was created to do. Now Republicans and the insurance e industry uses the NHS failings as an example of of why the US should never get universal health care. John Pilger with Endever just released a great about this
Yep the morons of your country (the majority) think it’s the best country in the world.. And that’s by design by your government.. What is the point of even complaining about something if you know you live in the greatest country, then you also know that it can’t be better anywhere else. So nothing will ever change for you, you are doomed
I know what you mean. When I hear people talk about "indoctrination" of kids in school, I think, we were brainwashed from kindergarten (I'm 46) to believe we live in the best country in the world. The wool is no longer over my eyes!
I went to high school with one of the daughters of United Healthcare's founder, Richard Burke. The amount of money that girl had was disgusting. I remember hearing that she totaled her $95k Range Rover and her parents bought another one two weeks later. This was all happening while at the same school, one of my friends' mom lost her job after recently being diagnosed with cancer and she was struggling to figure out how to pay for own healthcare.
At what point are the doctors and pharmacies partially responsible? Pretty sure it's the billing depth at the docs/hospital that sends it to collections.
I would have payed $20 for each visit if it was 3 different occasions. Just as everyone else in the civilized world, except in the greatest country in the world tho
That's because you're a bum and never bothered to set up a payment plan. They probably tried calling you but you just ignored it and now you want to play victim
I AM HERE TO DO SOMETHING ! To do SOMETHING I WILL NOT BE DISRESPECTED AGAIN! I NEED HELP PUSHING MYSELF INTO POWER #MiddleClassSlavery 100,000 jobs is NOT going to fulfill me WHEN YOU ALL ARE FAILING AT WHAT YOU ARE DOING! ( ex. nba playing like basketball lords )
Where's mainstream media condemning The Adjuster now? THIS is the journalism that focuses on the heart of the issue. Why the only tears for that CEO are from other parasites.
They're all lining each others' pockets--why would they ever report on the actual issue other than gaslighting the American public into believing them? That won't make them profit...
the workers that carry out the majority of this stuff are working stiiffs like you and me. they need to work, they need the job.. any job in some cases. the whole system is designed so that nobody has to take accountability.. its.. 'clean' murder. naturally the people at the top fully understand and cosign on this.. when youre the CEO youre the HNIC of that aparattus, thus blame (approproatley) is placed on them. I feel sad for BTs family, but we all have to make choices in what we do to make money, who that harms, etc. when another person loses their life because of it, noone is insulated.
Thinking this is because of a few shady individuals is delusional. This is what the system was designed for, and it's working perfectly. Fight the system.
The thing is that in some (if not most) cases, debts for a deceased person don't legally pass to another family member. They just call and threaten to do something if not paid. That should be illegal.
Debts of the deceased die with the deceased. At least they do in UK law. If you provide any debtors with the death certificate of the person who's debt theyre chasing. There's no quesrioning that certificate. The debt is automatically there and then written off and walked away from.wven any assets that were bought but weren't fully paid on are ignored and passed on to the next of kin. If the deceased had an estate (money assets etc) when they died debtors are in a line behind funeral expenses. If and only after funeral expenses have been met and there's any money from that estate left can the debts be paid out of there's enough money left over. And usually debtors in the UK won't even chase it if there is out of respect to the next of kin
I’ve been being hounded daily by a debt collector over an ambulance ride I couldn’t afford yet had no choice but to take. The emergency room I went to sent me to another hospital and didn’t give me a choice bc of the state I was in. Yet my insurance company deemed the ambulance ride unnecessary. Insurance companies can eat dirt. Soulless corporate policy should not apply to healthcare.
You could have taken a business class ticket to India, get into the best hospital of New Delhi did your surgery, recovered for two weeks in a wellness centre and still saved money. There are some hospitals which would have accepted US insurance too!
In our case, $15,000 ER visit for older sons stones. Sent home with meds to "help it pass". Younger sons surgically repaired leg from an auto accident $125,000.
Life, health, fire, auto, home, boat, motorcycle, theft, sports, investments, injury, disease, professional, death, funeral, dismemberment, construction, equipment...any type, area or reason, there's an insurance for it with greedy, wealthy men backing it. One could spend every paycheck on insurance alone and never have a need to file a single claim.
My dad did the bankruptcy stuff right before cancer and when he died in hospice the bills just kept coming even after we reported the death. It took like 10 months to get the gas notice on the door. Billed him for almost a year after he died.
I am responsible for the dislike. I like your comment, but dislike how the health industry keep leeching you, even after death, like they bleed you of financial wealth, not well being health. Makes me v angry.
Our nation just elected Donald Trump. No one has any decency. Lack of decency is an asset and someone that's admired until you're the one in need of mercy.
Never gonna happen, the majority of you guys are ignorant and happy. If you think you live in the greatest country in the world regarding everything, there is no point in changing anything, you still have it better then anyone else… Perfect design from your government, they probably live in the greatest country in the world as they can do wtf they want and get away with it.
Common sense about denying claims, giving people the run around, and outright lying, for sure. But knowing the people doing that to you are making a commission when you eventually pay is definitely not common sense. That’s insane.
I second that!! Thank you for speaking on this corrupt industry. You’re doing what every single media company is afraid to do. Education on what goes on behind closed doors.
This is why i dont urs insurance i know you need to have it, but everytime i have to reknew everything changes and it goes up no matter if its the same quote that ive used for the last year. And i have so many try to call me its ridiculous how they hound you
If there’s actually people out there that don’t know or don’t think insurance companies are screwing them then clearly the insurance failed them for not paying for the much needed psych evaluation
I just read a story online about someone's father who needed MRI to check for cancer that runs in the family but kept getting denied by the insurance company for over a year until the cancer became stage 3 and the father died 3 years later. He could have lived much longer if he had MRI earlier but the insurance company killed him instead. Absolutely disgusting what these companies get away with
As someone who had a recent injury and had to deal with 6+ different people for the case. Not only do they make you wait and upset you. They force you to deal with others trying to make a living that have no control over what they do. They are just working a job. But when you have to deal with and they are the one conducting your situation you build a hatred for them. Leaving you in a spiral of, could they have helped or is it the bigger power. "Control what you can control" is what some have said to me. They have already lost their wits and have bowed down to their superiority. Disgusting. I can control a lot of things. No one is as safe as they think they are And they shouldnt, their protection is paid for with the same thing we wipe our ass with.
This episode was so good. I ate a whole pizza, so zoomed off dabs, then I realized the pizza was gone and I was sad, but this was bomb documentary along with the pizza. Good job vice.
The hunger for greed is no joke!!! Made a purchase for a Christmas gift last year, paid the full amount with shipping only to get harassed by debt collers for "missing" 40 BUCKS. There was no warranty.
I have had a lifetime of hospitalizations and operations but just to pick the most recent one, I was hospitalized for 2 weeks in May for a nearly fatal blood infection and that visit cost $242,600 with 1 SINGLE CT scan (taking literally 5 minutes) costing $20,000..... Greatest country in the world 🙄
My best friend punctured his lung after accidentally falling out a tree. In fear of crippling medical debt becoming an insurmountable burden on his family/friends, he chose not to seek medical attention and choked on his blood in his sleep later that night. He was 33. This is America.
If I didn't have a family, I wouldn't have health insurance. It's a total scam. I'd pay less just going out of pocket. My insurance is 500 every paycheck so 1000 a month. If I only payed as I needed, I'd spend wayyyyy less.
I’m at the point of not having much hope when it comes to this issue. We’re too far gone and have been ever since any form of government has been established. Greed has taken over completely. I’m willing for anyone to help me feel a bit more optimistic about it but I really just don’t know anymore. These same people running these companies have enough money to have the government and the system in their back pocket, they control absolutely everything and have spent generations on ensuring they stay making money off of people in unfortunate situations. We’re too far gone.
I have an HMO--the "cheapest" insurance available at my work. While I do pay a lot out of my check each month, the insurance pays for everything. Childbirth was $0. The catch is that I gave to go to their doctors--but since Iive in the suburbs of a major city, there are good hospitals all over.
Wow, this is like some old vice content! I applaud you all for posting this. Insurance companies are going to be on the hacking block and all being sued within the next 5 to 10 years. watch. Already happening in the US. Now bring back tattoo age too and highlight adrian lee. We will all be fans again at that point.
Now I understand why my insurance is cooking me. Forcing me to get a surgery I might not need. Not allowing doctors to do things that might further explain my chronic pain issues. Sucks. Luigi mangione for president 2025.
Mangione will be cemented in history as a type of Robin Hood.
He did what millions who have been denied wish they could do.
People who feel like they have nothing to live for and nothing to lose have unimaginable power to change the world
@@wayfaringstrangerhow about you lose everything and make that change.
@@wayfaringstrangerthats the thing, he had everything to lose and obviously lived for a lot of great values. If only he had an army of media supporting him
Unaffordable health care coupled with such a high cost of living. Propaganda has made us belive this is the best country in the world.
Worse yet, McKinney and united Healthcare convinced the UK to start privatizing the NHS back in the 70s. These two American companies convinced Thatcher that the NHS needs to be a profitable business when that is exactly opposite of what the NHS was created to do. Now Republicans and the insurance e industry uses the NHS failings as an example of of why the US should never get universal health care.
John Pilger with Endever just released a great about this
Yep the morons of your country (the majority) think it’s the best country in the world..
And that’s by design by your government..
What is the point of even complaining about something if you know you live in the greatest country, then you also know that it can’t be better anywhere else.
So nothing will ever change for you, you are doomed
top 20 not likely
I know what you mean. When I hear people talk about "indoctrination" of kids in school, I think, we were brainwashed from kindergarten (I'm 46) to believe we live in the best country in the world. The wool is no longer over my eyes!
It’s one of the worst and most depressing
There’s the old vice.
Old vice waited for violence and latched onto it to dictate content? yeaaarite
Old vices die hard
Amen!
When the world needed em most they came back 🎉
@ I just ate a whole pizza watching this and it was amazing on a Sunday.
This is why Luigi is a hero in my eyes.
I feel the same way about Chris, Micah and Gavin.
I went to high school with one of the daughters of United Healthcare's founder, Richard Burke. The amount of money that girl had was disgusting. I remember hearing that she totaled her $95k Range Rover and her parents bought another one two weeks later. This was all happening while at the same school, one of my friends' mom lost her job after recently being diagnosed with cancer and she was struggling to figure out how to pay for own healthcare.
CRAZYYYYY!!!!
Insurance is a big scam
100%
Yup
At what point are the doctors and pharmacies partially responsible? Pretty sure it's the billing depth at the docs/hospital that sends it to collections.
$6,000 for 3 MRI’s. Then they sent me to collections after 1 month of not paying the full amount.
I would have payed $20 for each visit if it was 3 different occasions.
Just as everyone else in the civilized world, except in the greatest country in the world tho
Health and housing is a basic human right.
@@Zui9SPARTACUS not in America
Hippa violation of the doctor to send it to collections
That's because you're a bum and never bothered to set up a payment plan. They probably tried calling you but you just ignored it and now you want to play victim
Too much inequality and not enough humanity.
Reagan opened the last flood gates of unregulated greed
Words of wisdom
I AM HERE TO DO SOMETHING !
To do SOMETHING
I WILL NOT BE DISRESPECTED AGAIN! I NEED HELP PUSHING MYSELF INTO POWER
#MiddleClassSlavery
100,000 jobs is NOT going to fulfill me WHEN YOU ALL ARE FAILING AT WHAT YOU ARE DOING! ( ex. nba playing like basketball lords )
Where's mainstream media condemning The Adjuster now? THIS is the journalism that focuses on the heart of the issue. Why the only tears for that CEO are from other parasites.
They're all lining each others' pockets--why would they ever report on the actual issue other than gaslighting the American public into believing them? That won't make them profit...
They're owned by people like Brian Thompson
the workers that carry out the majority of this stuff are working stiiffs like you and me. they need to work, they need the job.. any job in some cases. the whole system is designed so that nobody has to take accountability.. its.. 'clean' murder. naturally the people at the top fully understand and cosign on this.. when youre the CEO youre the HNIC of that aparattus, thus blame (approproatley) is placed on them. I feel sad for BTs family, but we all have to make choices in what we do to make money, who that harms, etc. when another person loses their life because of it, noone is insulated.
Thinking this is because of a few shady individuals is delusional. This is what the system was designed for, and it's working perfectly.
Fight the system.
absolutely
When you live in an Oligarchy, it's not delusional, it's reality --- time to wake up -- the System IS run by a small number of people.
Luigi started the revolution
@@Pheyora the revolution was started more than a century ago, you might've awakened to it thanks to Luigi
Holy crap, Vice actually gave us a new video and not a repost. This must be a sign, 2025 let’s gooo
The thing is that in some (if not most) cases, debts for a deceased person don't legally pass to another family member. They just call and threaten to do something if not paid. That should be illegal.
Or people should not answer unknown calls and block any spam or unknown calls
Debts of the deceased die with the deceased. At least they do in UK law. If you provide any debtors with the death certificate of the person who's debt theyre chasing. There's no quesrioning that certificate. The debt is automatically there and then written off and walked away from.wven any assets that were bought but weren't fully paid on are ignored and passed on to the next of kin. If the deceased had an estate (money assets etc) when they died debtors are in a line behind funeral expenses. If and only after funeral expenses have been met and there's any money from that estate left can the debts be paid out of there's enough money left over. And usually debtors in the UK won't even chase it if there is out of respect to the next of kin
It depends on which state filial laws are enforced.
Company: You pay us just incase something happens
Customer: And when something happens?
Company: *_NO REFUNDS_*
Just sick asl
I’ve been being hounded daily by a debt collector over an ambulance ride I couldn’t afford yet had no choice but to take. The emergency room I went to sent me to another hospital and didn’t give me a choice bc of the state I was in. Yet my insurance company deemed the ambulance ride unnecessary. Insurance companies can eat dirt. Soulless corporate policy should not apply to healthcare.
U can get the bill to zero
The good old U S of A. I have no idea how you guys haven't abandoned the place.
The corruption in your country is astounding.
For profit healthcare is an embarrassment
this is crazy
Healthcare insurance should be non profit
30000 for emergency kidney stone extraction WITH insurance. I will never be able to pay that back.
I hear kidney stones are thee most expensive thing you can go through
You could have taken a business class ticket to India, get into the best hospital of New Delhi did your surgery, recovered for two weeks in a wellness centre and still saved money. There are some hospitals which would have accepted US insurance too!
@@zenmode216 Its emergency, not one that you can schedule to fly to another country first.
In our case, $15,000 ER visit for older sons stones. Sent home with meds to "help it pass". Younger sons surgically repaired leg from an auto accident $125,000.
@@myname8419sorry to hear that you had an emergency like that!
Life, health, fire, auto, home, boat, motorcycle, theft, sports, investments, injury, disease, professional, death, funeral, dismemberment, construction, equipment...any type, area or reason, there's an insurance for it with greedy, wealthy men backing it. One could spend every paycheck on insurance alone and never have a need to file a single claim.
And when you do. They ain’t paying 🤦🏽♀️😭
True this y I'll never bring kids here to just pay bills n deal with life hardships n bs
@@nilaja-itsmylifeu have to jump through hoops to get wtf they owe u
@@Shay-rx4xu not to be all up in your business 😅 Don’t ever let anything or anyone steal your joy ☀️ 💯🙏🏽. Children are a blessing ❤️🌹
My dad did the bankruptcy stuff right before cancer and when he died in hospice the bills just kept coming even after we reported the death. It took like 10 months to get the gas notice on the door. Billed him for almost a year after he died.
I am responsible for the dislike. I like your comment, but dislike how the health industry keep leeching you, even after death, like they bleed you of financial wealth, not well being health. Makes me v angry.
Insurance companies, and other private entities that never should have been private, are not on your side. Greed is too great. Sadness.
This is despicable. How does this go on?! What happened to care and decency?!
Died like a lot of other good things or you could say people do what they gotta do survive but even if you don't someone else will
Raj, this is the technique that was used to "tax" indians during Raj era . it is a well oiled machine that is applied across the board
Care and decency left the building in the yr 2000.
Capitalism happened
Our nation just elected Donald Trump. No one has any decency. Lack of decency is an asset and someone that's admired until you're the one in need of mercy.
"collections" and "commission" don't belong in the same sentence
2025... the year to rise up ✊🏽
Never gonna happen, the majority of you guys are ignorant and happy.
If you think you live in the greatest country in the world regarding everything, there is no point in changing anything, you still have it better then anyone else…
Perfect design from your government, they probably live in the greatest country in the world as they can do wtf they want and get away with it.
the ball is in motion...
It’s time. Don’t let the race baiting from media and politicians divide us
If we actually do. There's a lot of people here that are just complacent
What better place than here, what better time than NOW!?
How many more Luigi's will step up?!
We gotta get Mario next
here
here
Welcome to late stage capitalism. Horror show.
And this video didn't even touch on health insurance. You could make a movie-length Informer video with that kind of whistleblower.
Free healthcare for everyone should be the only choice. We can’t be the best country in the world with problems like this
Luigi sent me here !!!
#DDD
Free him
@@corywilson2007hell yeah
"seeing them as something to extract from, not seeing them as other humans". this is the main problem with society in general i would say. good video.
Yup
Yes, just a reminder, there are people out there that cheer when a person in despair cries. That's who we're fighting.
These people are inhuman - the CEOs, their kin, board members, stockholders... all of them.
Excellus is now $1300/month, and goes up every year. I can’t afford to live.
Deny Defend Depose
If anyone is surprised by any of this then they either haven't been paying intention, don't want to know or have far too much faith in society.
This is common sense. No one can be shocked about this.
Considering the state of America probably not .
Common sense about denying claims, giving people the run around, and outright lying, for sure. But knowing the people doing that to you are making a commission when you eventually pay is definitely not common sense. That’s insane.
Need more Luigi's
"We're gonna need a bigger Luigi"
What needs to happen is a system change?
@@monzorella1 System is run by just a few people.
Thank you Vice for actually covering the real villain in all this, the US for profit health insurance industry!
I second that!! Thank you for speaking on this corrupt industry. You’re doing what every single media company is afraid to do. Education on what goes on behind closed doors.
Couldn't have come out at a better time
If someone works in the industry and face this. Record and document conversations copy documents so they can’t claim you’re lying.
no tears for the ceos of the night.
in Europe when you sign a travel health insurance it clearly says it covers all countries except for USA.
I moved to Canada - it’s not perfect here but I won’t go back
I believe we have arrived @ the proverbial "let them eat cake" moment. Just sayin...
Expose these scum insurance companies
*”Health” Insurance
The TH-cam censorship working overtime on this video
What does this even mean?!
Gotta comment to boost it
You mean to end Vice
luigi mangione bringing back the old vice.
I wish this insanity would stop.
Gotta love America 🤦♂️ greed over humanity 🤷♂️
Absolutely disgusting and unsurprising. I appreciate this reporting.
This is why i dont urs insurance i know you need to have it, but everytime i have to reknew everything changes and it goes up no matter if its the same quote that ive used for the last year. And i have so many try to call me its ridiculous how they hound you
bout to be a lot more american heros looking for ceos
If there’s actually people out there that don’t know or don’t think insurance companies are screwing them then clearly the insurance failed them for not paying for the much needed psych evaluation
The therapist would be too busy telling them that they are paranoid that no one is out to get you
I just read a story online about someone's father who needed MRI to check for cancer that runs in the family but kept getting denied by the insurance company for over a year until the cancer became stage 3 and the father died 3 years later. He could have lived much longer if he had MRI earlier but the insurance company killed him instead. Absolutely disgusting what these companies get away with
As someone who had a recent injury and had to deal with 6+ different people for the case. Not only do they make you wait and upset you. They force you to deal with others trying to make a living that have no control over what they do. They are just working a job. But when you have to deal with and they are the one conducting your situation you build a hatred for them. Leaving you in a spiral of, could they have helped or is it the bigger power. "Control what you can control" is what some have said to me. They have already lost their wits and have bowed down to their superiority. Disgusting. I can control a lot of things. No one is as safe as they think they are And they shouldnt, their protection is paid for with the same thing we wipe our ass with.
Commisson based on fees is all I needed to hear
Sad... USA is a rich and powerful country, yet we have issues helping our citizens with healthcare 🤦
This episode was so good. I ate a whole pizza, so zoomed off dabs, then I realized the pizza was gone and I was sad, but this was bomb documentary along with the pizza.
Good job vice.
The hunger for greed is no joke!!! Made a purchase for a Christmas gift last year, paid the full amount with shipping only to get harassed by debt collers for "missing" 40 BUCKS. There was no warranty.
I have had a lifetime of hospitalizations and operations but just to pick the most recent one, I was hospitalized for 2 weeks in May for a nearly fatal blood infection and that visit cost $242,600 with 1 SINGLE CT scan (taking literally 5 minutes) costing $20,000..... Greatest country in the world 🙄
Wow now it all make sense
Delay, deny, depose 🤢
Protect Luigi 🫶🏻
Free Luigi bro
Luigi is proving hes a hero
Deny... Defend... Depose.
lol that time I went to the doctor to get antibiotics to treat a sinus infection, forced to see a nurse practitioner, left with two heart CT scans…
Free luigi
My best friend punctured his lung after accidentally falling out a tree. In fear of crippling medical debt becoming an insurmountable burden on his family/friends, he chose not to seek medical attention and choked on his blood in his sleep later that night. He was 33.
This is America.
If I didn't have a family, I wouldn't have health insurance. It's a total scam. I'd pay less just going out of pocket. My insurance is 500 every paycheck so 1000 a month. If I only payed as I needed, I'd spend wayyyyy less.
I’m at the point of not having much hope when it comes to this issue. We’re too far gone and have been ever since any form of government has been established. Greed has taken over completely. I’m willing for anyone to help me feel a bit more optimistic about it but I really just don’t know anymore. These same people running these companies have enough money to have the government and the system in their back pocket, they control absolutely everything and have spent generations on ensuring they stay making money off of people in unfortunate situations. We’re too far gone.
Oligarchy.
I have an HMO--the "cheapest" insurance available at my work. While I do pay a lot out of my check each month, the insurance pays for everything. Childbirth was $0. The catch is that I gave to go to their doctors--but since Iive in the suburbs of a major city, there are good hospitals all over.
THE TIME FOR CHANGE IS NOW 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️
Power to the people
"Healthcare" in the US is insane. In any civilised country, healthcare is free/subsidised.
Shut your mouths. You'll do nothing! -United Health
@@ClearGlassStudios281 haha tell that to the former CEO 😅
@@tylersowa3858 dont forget: the boardmembers and stockholders are liable too
@@tylersowa3858 😂🤣😂
Free Luigi!!!
Wow, this is like some old vice content! I applaud you all for posting this. Insurance companies are going to be on the hacking block and all being sued within the next 5 to 10 years. watch. Already happening in the US.
Now bring back tattoo age too and highlight adrian lee. We will all be fans again at that point.
perfect timing for this episode
American propaganda is so good, people come here cause its the "Best country in the world"
We arent suppose to be a democracy, but a Republic regardless that opening statement was crazy...
Now I understand why my insurance is cooking me. Forcing me to get a surgery I might not need. Not allowing doctors to do things that might further explain my chronic pain issues. Sucks. Luigi mangione for president 2025.
Surgery that you might not need? I am so sorry to hear this sounds absolutely disgusting
Capitalism is what they are talking about capitalism is all about wealth extraction
Only cancer and capitalism want infinite growth in a limited space.
“Respect the shooter” - Troi Torain aka Star
Almost all these tactics are illegal. It won’t last.
Get rid of the large health insurance companies that’s the answer. They lie
Insurance policies are Vogon poetry.
I like Luigi now. I had no idea it was this bad. These people are pure evil
this pathetic country of ours.. hate it more every day
It just got worse
finally some decent reporting from Vice again!
Wow! Spread this to everyone you know people. This needs to go viral.
Yup
I’m insurance is free for life but you get what you pay for lol! The department of veterans affairs isn’t much different.
Veterans deserve so much better than the VA.
Gee I wonder if that's why that guy got shot and died....I 🤔🤔🤔🤔
the whole time all I could think of was mr incredible’s boss
⬆😂😂
TBH, i don't like insurance because there's no assurance. My money is best stayed in the bank.
I'm glad I got away
DELAY DENY DEFEND