M.2 vs NVME: What's the difference?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ม.ค. 2017
- In this video I discuss the difference between an M.2 SSD and a NVME PCI-Ex4 SSD. From how to tell them apart just by looking at them and little bit about recent computer storage history of that explains how we got to this point.
I hope this video clears up the technical mumbo-jumbo using simple, easy to understand language.
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72 years old and you taught me something new having built my own pc for 30 plus years.
Well, I can relate! I'm 73 and I've been at it for 25 years, so we must've gone to different schools together! That video helped me a lot....I wasn't up to snuff on those storage options either. I sure don't miss those IDE cables!
This guy is 72?? He looks my age and im 32 years younger!! 🤯
Hey sir, the ADATA xpg 8200 pro m.2 NVME is at a great price! Check it out. Pure raw performance rivaling the Samsung 970 pro but a fraction of its cost. I would love to be able to tinker with hardware when I am at your age! Must have great stories and interesting hardware over the years of your builds. I am way younger than the entirety of the duration you have built PC!
Have a nice day!
Im sure you know Cobol and 1s and 0s.... good stuff!
My first build was 1986 - 4Mb RAM and a 10 Mb HDD
Hello SATA,
Hello PATA,
With NVME,
Does it MATA?
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Im a simple nerd, i see a tech joke, i upvote.
Clever.
I lol'd at this, well done sir
Subscribed because: "I'm the OG, I'm the original gamer"
Exactly.
same
It was hilarious
One point of order - Originally, the flat 40/80 pin cables were NOT called PATA ( PATA is a retronym ), they were referred to as IDE or just ATA and only renamed as PATA after SATA became available.
Well pointed out. I've plugged in quite a few IDE cables. But mainly I'm replying to praise the word 'retronym.' Never heard it before, and it's a beauty for this linguaphile. ;-)
@@barryschwarz as opposed to retronymph. Not sure what that would look like! Big hair and padded shoulders I guess.....
Being in IT for a long time, I have to say that this is a great video. I don't miss the days of IDE cable management. It's also nice that motherboards are much more clearly labeled now than they used to be.... :)
What's funny is now people use cable combs to spread out the individually sleeved ATX cables effectively making them ribbon cables. 🙃
Yea.. worst part I remember about computer setup, apart from those AMD processors that required you to nearly jam a screwdriver through your motherboard in order to install the heatsink, was sitting there with a flashlight at odd angles, trying to see those microscopic letters on the board, to figure out where to put the stupid tiny wires just so the power/restart button on the case would work.
Make sure you've got the master/slave jumper set correctly on the back of EACH drive connected to the IDE cable or your 4x CD-ROM Drive simply will not compute (you can always opt to plug this directly into your ISA Sound Blaster Card :P)
I, too, started in IT in the "ESDI/MFM/RLL/SCSI" era, but retired about the time these SSDs really began replacing the ole "spinning rust" drives, thus I was pretty much in the dark regarding the M.2 SSD's. Subscribed and thanks for enlightening me!!
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@RPM We got pong when it first came out. It held us for a little bit. Bicycles, homemade go-carts and running around outside was better. My next foray wasn't until CAD...using the big 5 inch, actually floppy, floppies to store my stuff.
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As your signaling frequency goes up, the distance between the wavefronts on the parallel interface become harder to synchronize. As a result, you have to build in delays in the protocol resulting in efficiency in transfers. Going with parallel/serial allows you to have several synchronized serial "lanes" that don't necessarily have to be time-synchronized on the wavefront for signal clocking. So PATA became SATA and SCSI became SAS - and PCI became PCIe...
Great explanations, when I saw those old cables it brought back memories of trying to build my first PC, having to run a jumper on certain pins depending on the hardware and setup. Thank god one of my roommates was an engineer with a lot of patience.
As an old timer myself, I appreciate the trip down memory lane 😀 You gave a really excellent description. Many thanks!
I felt like in a personal conversation. No music, right on front of me.
The way you talked and explained, it felt like a very close person was speaking to me about something we both love. Thank you kind sir. You got my subscription!
Very helpful. I've been an old-school builder for years. You cleared up all the confusion I''ve had about these newer SSDs. Thanks so much!
Thanks very much for this info. I’ve had an NvME drive in my system for nearly 3 years and had my M.2 slot set to SATA as my ASU’s Z170 board has that as the default setting because there isn’t an auto option. My system is noticeably snappier loading and opening apps now.
Love your succinct but clear explanation. I'm an old techie, too, I still remember pushing RAM chips into my first 8 MB motherboard and the HUGE upgrade from my 20 MB MFM hard drive to the big 60 MB RLL.
I also remember the RAM boards with the reams of chips and when they would stop working, just reseat the chips and be on your merry way. dust was not your friend.
Beautiful explanation! Congratulations!
ps: some nostalgia when I saw those IDE cables
I still have my old tower with a amd semperon and all the glory of IDE....really been thinking about dragging it out just to try to install windows 10 on it...lol
Lol, i still have my IDE drive in my PC, just because it works (after 7,2 years of power on, and about 15 years since i bought it) and because i can :D
Yes, also his mention of "scuzzy" drives. 😁
The good old 40 ribbon cable. Begone devil.
Damn, this vid was so straight forward and super informative. No sponsors and no ads he just wants to help explain to those who did not understand. Salute to you king
Yes! Very well done sir, and extremely useful for me. I've been seeing prices start to go way down on these devices, but I was having a hard time figuring out the format of the hardware. The whole "M.2" nomenclature is quite confusing, but you helped me out A BUNCH! Thanks so much :)
Yes he did explain this quite well Looks like an upgrade is in my future
I've never felt the urge to like a video and subscribe to a channel more quickly. What an amazing explanation, with no computer elitism and so much wholesome fun and enthusiasm. Thanks for being such a wonderful host! (:
So did you buy an NVME drive yet? :P
I agree with you!
once he said he was the "OG - Original Gamer" I subbed immediately
Your explanations are probably the best I've ever heard, plus I've also learned more from your other viewers' comments! Fantastic. Subscribed, and will return often. Thank you Carey AND other viewers!
I must admit I know the differences between M2 SATA & NVME, but you still went above and beyond on the details. I still learned something I didn't know before. Kudos on covering this topic. Well done! I will check out your other content.
That IDE cable...... Brought back lots of old memories. Very nice vid. Nicely explained. Subscribed.
I just found out about M.2 SSD about two weeks ago. I'm amazed you knew all this in 2017! The video is very informative and you explain everything in a way that's very understandable and eloquent. The humor is a definite plus, too!
Brother, watching this video is like taking a trip in a time machine to my own youth. Love the Shirt!! I just found you today and I love your low-key and detailed presentation style. You are a natural teacher and you deserve a dedicated video production studio.
Thank you so much!! I have been searching for hours trying to understand the difference. You explained this so clearly!
This was extremely informative. Thank you for taking the time to clear this up.
Your detailed computer build videos and tips helped me a lot while building my own PC. Thanks for the sincerity and effort you put in making those incredibly instructional videos.
Hello from Brazil! I've been watching tons of vídeos to check these differences explaned and you were the only one who was able to explain it in a way I could understand. Thanks!
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Sir
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Once again, another great educational video. The transition from MFM to RLL was painful for some of us. Got stuck with a case worth of Miniscribes when the company went bankrupt.
This was really helpful for me. I was looking for an SSD to upgrade my reading speed and this video helped me understand the difference. Thanks so much, you seem to have a high understanding of parts and explain it well I'll be watching more when I have further questions.
I never liked IDE but it brings back some fond memories of when I was just a kid tinkering with old computers and teaching myself how they worked. Up until now I've always had old hand-me-down computers, so I've become very familiar with the old interfaces. Only when I built my first computer last year did I upgrade from IDE. I skipped SATA altogether and went straight to m.2 and NVMe. I now have a SATA drive as well and I was surprised how easy it was to connect. Just two small cables, no jumpers, and effortless cable management.
Ah yes. "When I was just a kid..." 1980ish messing with an 8K Commodore computer using a cassette recorder data storage. Yes, exactly the same cassettes we used for music. Things have changed quite a bit since I was a kid.
I never got used to that annoying ticking sound from the IDE header. Even some modern SATA drives make that noise. However their a lot quieter.
I don't miss being on hands and knees looking for the little jumper that sets the master/slave. Drop it once, it will bounce to the most improbable place...
@@BLKBRDSR71 I think you're referring to hard drive head seek sound and it depends on the drive. Samsung Spinpoint drives click, whirr, clunk and grind a lot even SATA whereas WD drives are almost silent
@@cultclassic999 "auto" mode was best then it would decide for you...
oh thanks for helping build my first pc 5 years. Still running strong.
Thanks very much for your time in putting this together, and for the clearer understood differences between the various connections
Love the history lesson, My first homebuild had a 10MB Stepper motor HD that connected to a card rather than the MoBo. My fourth build had all SCSI-2 interfaces. My next build will have NVMe M.2 Boot drive, on an x16 interface.
I remember watching you back in 2015 when I first built my PC, thank you.
Great video. That was an easy to follow explanation. Thank you for this straight to the point lesson.
Thank you... Very big help. The pictures and diagram help 100%. Your video is simple to understand and straight to the point. Excellent!!!
I really love your videos. You really break things down and explain it thoroughly enough that I can keep up and understand better. Thanks for doing what you do.
I would just like to say I found this video to be very informative, as this is my first time as a viewer i have definitely clicked the subscribe button. Thanks
I'm trying to build my first computer and thoroughly trying to research what all these acronyms and numbers mean and what they actually mean in layman's terms. This video helped a lot. Thank you for the great explanation and background information!
4 years in but this is still informative AF. Thanks man!
Easy to understand with slight sense of humor. I'm subscribing after seeing this. Keep up the good videos.
thank you for your video, super informative and very well explained. I'm looking forward to more of your videos.
I know this is 3 years old & tech has moved on but I'm playing catch up! You're like that one decent teacher at school (long long time ago!) that actually had a passion & an interest in their subject, they explained & taught in a way that not only made facts interesting, those facts sunk in to my thick head & more importantly STUCK cos I enjoyed the lesson!
Another great vid Carey 😊
Really good video, I vaguely understood the mechanics behind the different storage formats but knowing the details is really cool!
Man, those first few minutes were unexpectedly emotional, held back a tear and all...
When SATA came to market, I WAS SO HAPPY
I never liked those damn IDE cables
IDE cables are kinda fragile , im glad sata came into the market
@@yummyramen2821 yeah but believe it or not I've had more Sata cables go bad then I ever had ide cables go bad, the ends of the connectors are very fragile on sata
Always had to carefully fold the IDE cable to tuck them away... And the master and slave DIP switches..🤣😅
Hey, Carey. Tomorrow night I'm helping my buddy build his first gaming computer. It will be the first one I've ever built and we're going to use your videos as a guild. Thanks for all the information to make this build possible.
This is by far one of the best videos I have watched. Very well explained. I built a few computers and didn't even know there was a difference till today. Thank you
Thanks for the info man! Helped me a ton with the explanations, but was confused until basically the end of the video. :D
This was seriously so much informative. Thank you 🙏
Thanks Carey, You've cleared up the M.2 SATA/NVMe connections for me.
Now off to buy an external case for my NVMe drive.
Info i needed right now 7 years later ! Thank you !😊
Excellent, clear description you did! Easy to understand
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Some of us old guys were playing Pong when Uncle Carey was still being bottle fed...
@@mollygrubber Yep! Remember PONG well. 1975 Christmas season at Sears.
I would have loved to have had you as a teacher back in the day. I like the "info-tainment" channels like Jayztwocents and all, but sometimes you just need to have the facts explained to you in a no-nonsense way that's easy to understand. You deliver that perfectly.
This video was great!! Learning the differences between PC components so I know which one's are compatible so this helped so much!! Thank you
Knew most of this already but still very much enjoyed your video. Explained in simple terms, nice presenting style. Liked and subscribed :)
Exactly the video I needed. I've been wondering why folks were specifically saying 'NVMe' instead of 'M.2'. Thanks!
It helps me in 2021 to build my pc. great man
Very helpful. Best description I have found for M.2 drives.
Terrific explanation Sir. Informed me exactly what I wanted.
Nice video, clearly explained and comprehensive. Thanks!
Carey, this was a great thorough video!! IT was ... wow... complete and the visuals were great. Even 2.5 years later it is still relevant. I hope you can bring these structured planned videos with current topics as well. Honestly, I was entranced and enjoyed this video to the end. Honestly this video and information is 100% great !! Nice job.
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What a lovely cruise down memory lane in the beginning. Amazing video. Great explanation. Thank you so much. 🙏
really well explained, didnt even get lost, awesome vid
GREAT video!! I've watched ~4 videos and read SEVERAL articles on this, as I am completely new to this... yours instantly made it click! Going back to the roots was the PERFECT way to explain it, thanks man!
Thank you this was really helpful for me understanding the difference between SATA and NVMe
Great info, even 5 years later. Thanks so much!
excellent video now i understand the m.2 and NVMe differences -- thanks this made a subscriber
I’m an old timer too, DOS=Damn Old System. Thanks for the video it makes a lots of sense. I liked the small SATA cables, having built many machines wrestling with the old parallel IDE cables, but being an old tech I knew that parallel can be faster. Now that it’s down to the drive being a small circuit board mounted to the motherboard the old hard drive bottleneck which is a decades old problem is mostly resolved.
I was having some trouble understanding but this video was simple and easy to understand! The fundamentals of good teaching! Well done OG!
I've looked all over, and this is the clearest explanation that I've found LOL - thank you!
I always remember using those IDE cables that has to reach the master drive, slave drive and still reach the MoBo.. and many times it was a tight fit without a centimeter to spare.
Very good information.
Thank you!
first time to the channel, very well done and simple video. I will definitively check out the rest of your stuff as i build my second computer
Best explanation I ever heard. In 50 years, I never unnderstood it as you just explained. Thank you. You understand, you work it, and you teach it, 🌟 🌟 🌟 .
Thank you for a clear and concise explanation of these technologies. 😀
Very useful piece of info. Thank you very much 👍🏻
Great video. I needed direct suggestions like you delivered with some presentation slides which are also in this video. A perfect combination of both! Thank you.
The best videos are the ones that have clear information like this one !! Thanks
"I'm the OG, i'm the Original Gamer"
Thank you so much for posting this video! I'm one of those "old schooled" who started putting rigs together since the 1990's (early 1990's) and I know about the PATA vs. SATA cabling nightmares, etc. There are a lot of videos out there that attempt to clarify the M.2 vs. NVMe confusion but after watching them, it leaves even more confused. This video was very well made, with great and quick intro explanation as to the development of the different technologies and the actual visuals with sizes and installations--and compatibility issues, including the very important BIOS setup! Thanks again, and keep up the good work!
great video, with a great background in the history of computer storage drives, you are able to explain this very simply. And even after 5 years, this video is still relevant and informative!
Optane! I worked on developing that stuff as a dry etch engineer at Micron 5 or 6 years ago. It's cool seeing someone actually talk about it...
Thanks for this explanation. It is so simple even a three-year-old kid would understand. Exactly how it should be explained without unnecessarily complicating things.
Molex Plugs, they either get stuck into a drive or fall out of a drive. You guys forget about "Micro Jumpers" and SCSI, I/O Addresses, IRQ conflicts with sound cards or com ports, and Device ID Nightmares. I do miss the old MFM and RLL "jet turbine" sound effects though.
then there was DOS
I've got a triple height 5 1/4" MFM drive (10 Mb - Wohooo!) that sounds like a jet turbine firing up!
Two words... Dip Switch
Or flipping tiny DIP switches to set multipliers for the CPU....
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Informative, clear and concise video. If only other TH-cam tutorials were as well produced as this one.
IDE days. Always bring tears to my eyes :)
I cry tears of soy
Sure Lock sounds gross
That og Xbox cable and Xboxhdm
I still have ye olde computer in my grandma's house xD 40gb drive with WinXP on it :')
yeah but SCSI (Scuzzy) was pretty decent back in the day. I'm old leave me alone.
thanks for this blast from the past - now i feel old again...
Best explanation I had seen on youtube. And I am including all those made in this 5 years gap since this video was made. I wanted to leave a comment and I am hoping that you still make videos like this. Now I have to go to suscribe... cheers!
One of the best videos explaining the difference, even after 5 years of posting it...very well explained..nostalgic to see those IDE cables , brings back the good old memories of when started building PC' s in the late 90's
I have "mantled" and dismantled so many computers in my day, and lately find myself swapping M.2 SSDs dozens of times per week (we manage a park of around 6800 end-user computers) and now knowing this I am better able to understand the dos and don'ts - Thank you for the clarification!
This is my first time installing an NVMe on my new build. Been using HDDs for the past 20 years.
I've watched many videos on youtube about NVMe SSD. So far yours is the easiest to understand 👍
Thank you CAreyHolzman. Your video is so helpful. Thank you!!
It has been 14 years since my last build. Thank you for explaining the newer technology of storage.