Therapist Reacts to ELSA from Disney's FROZEN
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ค. 2024
- Elsa shuts people out because she doesn't want to hurt the people she loves - especially her sister Anna. But shutting them out is what actually ends up hurting them.
Licensed therapist Jonathan Decker and filmmaker Alan Seawright take a look at Disney's iconic ice queen Elsa and her transformation as she learns to face her fears, accept herself, and open her heart. In both Frozen movies, Elsa pushes people away to try to protect them, and has to learn that by actually letting people in and learning to trust herself and others, she can not only harness her powers but also repair and build healthy relationships.
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Written by: Megan Seawright, Jonathan Decker and Alan Seawright
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Jonathan has the mind of a wise old man and the face of an 8 year old boy.
I think it's the cheeks. And their color.
but honestly Jonathan will probably never look old :D and I agree, I too think it‘s the adowable lil cheeks :3
Yup
LOL!
When I read your comment. It made me equate him to Fix it Felix from Wreck it Ralph. Would love to see them do a Hero's Journey for Ralph, Venelope and Felix.
Alan: "I will wear Elsa's dress if you find one that fits me."
Internet: "Challenge accepted!"
Pretty sure I've already seen pictures of dudes with similar stature in Elsa dresses.
@@Atlessa Channing Tatum wore one on lip sync battle
I would be surprised if no one made that dress for him! I can't wait to see it! :D
Now the real question is: which elsa dress with train?
Sidequest: Make an Anna dres for Jonathan
@@koala4210 my vote is for the blue one, the most iconic. And i love the idea of an Anna dress for Jonathan as well 😂
As someone who struggles with depression and anxiety, "Show Yourself" gets me every time. The lyric "You are the one you've been waiting for all of your life" -instant tears.
For me it's the first few lines - pretty much the moment I hear that beautiful piano music start, I am in tears. Especially the "I'm arriving and it feels like I am home". Just hits me so hard because that's what I'm looking for. It's what we all look for, but somehow others just seem to find it much more easily.
Omg, same here, that part kind of depresses me more because I still don't know who I am, I feel like I'm trapped
too relatable
same here, just cried again dammit 😭
Same. Whenever i sing along, I start unintentionally crying. It's one of my favorites.
"If you take responsibility for everything, then you are actively denying the people in your life the opportunity for growth from taking responsibility for their stuff. Number two, if you are prone to blame yourself, you leave yourself wide open for manipulation."
Gold.
I loved that second part, about self-blame leaving me open to manipulation. It’s a simple idea that’s easier to carry around: not blaming ourselves for things that aren’t our fault protects us from hurtful people. 🙂👍
That second part makes me think of Vanille from the Final Fantasy XIII trilogy. She blames herself for countless things for centuries, some of which aren't even her fault, and it leads to a crazy religious cult using Vanille's guilt to control her and make her believe that doing whatever they want would fix everything. A bit of Vanille's narration in FFXIII Chapter 4 says it all, "If only I had been stronger, none of this ever would have happened."
The second part! When you self blame to the point of it being detrimental anything someone says that's negative only solidifies subconscious thoughts that are already present. Making you feel like what they said approves what you believe instead of being wrong
Wow I really needed to hear that
I feel like I need to have this tattooed on my arm as a reminder.
We getting closer to the “psychology of a hero: Simba” episode
that'd be EVERYTHING! please, cinema therapy, we need this!
I absolutely can’t wait for that one
Please cinema therapy
We're getting closer to "The Psychology of a villain: John Lasseter" episode.
@@williamfinch9858 😭😭
The moment that gets me is when her mother sings to her “You’re the one you’ve been waiting for.” Every child deserves to hear a parent say that.
Mine is just before that, 'I am found', since I got given my autism diagnosis. It explains so much, even though I've had results from it and regret it now, and I don't know what to do with the info to improve myself, but regardless it makes me feel whole for a few minutes.
I feel a tear in gut every single time I hear that line. So moving!
@@Roadent1241 I get that, it’s sort of like the question that haunts “what’s wrong with me” and the answer is lol nothing, this makes sense now, I am me and I know it
Aww
My only frustration with this is that Elsa has been so desperate throughout the film for connection-crying out for someone like her-“is it possible you’re someone a little like me” and then this song is just like _”nope, it’s JUST you, you’re gonna BE lonely, because it’s only ever BEEN you, there’s NO ONE ELSE”_
You mentioned Elsa's wardrobe reflecting her character arc, but her hair style also reflects her arc.
In the 1st movie, it goes from being bound tight on her head to down in a braid. The braid is a looser binding, but it's still a binding. In the 2nd movie, it goes from the braid, to the even looser pony tail, to the unbound, free-flowing hair.
Also, her skin tone. When she's singing "show yourself", it's the first time I noticed red in her cheeks instead of the cool, even tone shown previously. The red is most prominent when she's discovered it's her mother who's been calling.
hairstyle and makeup all form a part of your wardrobe, just not technically
True it expresses her well
I forgot about the ponytail. Probably because she has it for like 5 minutes!
I would say that Anna’s hair is symbolic but she is at her happiest generally and her most disconnected when her hair is a bun.
The "hair bound up" thing does seem to be kind of a metaphor thing for Elsa (and possibly also Anna).
I like both of them with the looser versions of their hair the most.
(They can finally let their hair down then. 😉)
I *LOVE* that you guys addressed the fact that "Let it Go" isn't really a "freeing" song or something to strive for - it's a song of solitude. She's essentially going "I'm a wrecking ball, I ruin everything so I'll sit here in my castle alone"...
Even Into the Unknown, Frozen 2's "big song" wasn't really it. The closest is Show Yourself... And I'm still bitter that song didn't get as much attention as the others...
Exactly. I mean she literally says "here I stand and here i'll stay". Also what was that about Show Yourself? Is it underrated? I thought everyone was praising it! If it is that makes me sad. It's my favorite song of the whole franchise and definitely in my top 5 Disney songs in general.
yeah the directors said that show yourself was too big of a spoiler that's why they used into the unknown as the promotion song.
Show yourself gives me chills every single time. It's glorious and while i totally understand the spoiler aspect of it, it deserves so much love
No shame but let it go was catchier than show yourself 😂 but I do agree
For me, it's The Next Right Thing that really hits. It's about the depths of hopelessness, and how, even then, you can still choose to go on - you may not know if you'll ever get where you're going, but you can always take the first step.
And, of course, it's an even bigger spoiler.
As a dad, i have to do this:
"Anna craves connection, and Elsa craves ice-solation."
I'll see myself out.
You must be an amazing father, lol
hahaha
"I see what you did there. So puny. So humorous. I die laughing. I dead now."
a kingdom of ice-soalation ( •_•)>⌐■-■
and it looks like i'm the queen (⌐■_■)
this joke will never stop being funny, all hail the dad jokes
@@pluspiping Yaaaaas. All hail the dad jokes!
She's not doing magic- she's dancing with power!
He's not flying- He's falling with style! 😂
Haha, I didn't pick up on the Toy Story reference until just now! 😂🤣
😂😂
As we should all know, flying is the art of throwing yourself at the ground, and missing.
About that, Elsa's character animation was based on the dancer Martha Graham. I think that's kinda COOL. ;)
@@MonkeyJedi99 i would like to learn that art lol
In the scene of Show Yourself, where Elsa unlocks all her memories, her origins, her entire life in front of her- surrounding her; and then her mother singing to her. And then she belts "I am found!" hits so hard.
Makes me cry every time as someone passionate about self discovery, shadow work, self acceptance and growth.
It's always a powerful and moving scene.
my favort part of moive #Frozon2. I waning for horesback riding.
not me literally tearing up with just them talking over it like it always makes me cry
Sincerely, I was super sad when I saw all the negative feedbacks about Elza's personality before because I relate to her on so many levels: the feeling of being ashamed of yourself, the fear of feeling emotions, the social fear and yet wanting to be appreciated. Especially the second movie hit home to me. I am really glad that you analyzed her. Thank you for this video!
Exactly, I feel the same
IKR AND THE FACT THAT EVERYONE WANTED HER TO HAVE AN ATTITUDE
If you ask me this makes her even more realistic.shes an amazing eprson
Same. And now Im getting diagnosed for personality disorders for it 🥺
Yep. I loved her for it because I saw myself in her.
I don't have a close relationship with my siblings or parents because even though I was physically with them I wasn't mentally there. I isolated myself from people when I was younger and now I don't know how to human.
It's difficult but I'm glad that I know a few things since I read a lot during the time I isolated myself.
I love the movies. And that's saying something because I hated the popularity of the songs. Yet I know the beginning lyrics to Let It Go because I related so much with her.
People who back lashed her are karens who are self righteous and hypocrites; so don’t worry about that any more
I absolutely love how "Let It Go" and "Defying Gravity", both songs sung by the queen Idina Menzel, are both songs about liberation, pride, and expression.
and the way idina sings them 🤩 gives me chills every time
Elphaba and Elsa are pretty much the same person. Power they try to hide, sister they just want to protect, exposes her power gets treated like a monster, sings a song about Fuck it and fuck them, mob comes to kill her.
@@ShroomDust6 when you look at those similarities, absolutely! The little sister relationships (and friendships) are very different though, and I think that does have a big impact on who they are as characters too
Hence why in 4th-5th grade those were my two all-time favorite songs.
That's why I hate Let It Go, and why I feel the movie could have been more, BECAUSE it's so similar to Wicked.
If you blame yourself for everything, you leave yourself wide open for manipulation by others. ❤️
Precisely, if you're so used to blaming yourself for every little setback, even for things which aren't even your fault, then you could set yourself up for being gaslit into believing that you're always to blame.
I need this as a daily reminder
I needed that...
So true
True
Honestly, you basically touch on why Elsa is my favorite Disney character. She was the first character from them that truly resonated with me...I have struggled greatly with my mental health. Her story arc is so beautiful in healing and growing into herself. It's so easy to buy into the lie that your brain tells you, and can be hard to accept love from others when you hate yourself.
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The two frozen movies, I related a ton to Elsa, I struggled with depression, and hearing Let It Go, and then Show Yourself, and they made me think exactly of depression!
I remember reading a comment once of someone saying Elsa's last dress is like a wedding dress, as an almost symbolic meaning of loving herself, and as someone who struggled with that, Elsa's arc in the two movies is so incredibly relatable.
(..... And yes... I started crying again...)
I agree with all of this, but I have always seen the girls' parents' behavior as very problematic. THEY were the ones who originally closed the shutters, separated her from Anna, told her to not feel, etc. They instilled shame in her from a very young age, which only made it harder for her to accept herself. I was surprised it wasn't mentioned here, but perhaps it was not the main focus of this particular narrative. I'm looking forward to your episode on Anna! Keep up the great work!
It isn’t just the parents! The way the adults behave in Frozen 1 is… cinematically understandable because the story has to be simple and have minimal characters yada yada, but from a human being standpoint deplorable. Who was running the kingdom between their parents deaths and Elsa (botched) crowning ceremony? Running kingdoms is hard and requires a huge staff (I assume. I am not a princess and have no personal experience, but I do have logic) so where is it? Where was the training period? All of the mcs in frozen have had no people to model their behavior and moral codes off, and they therefore fail to react to interpersonal situations well. Anna and Elsa are all about family, but their parents were incredibly negligent in attending to their daughters’ emotional needs. Honestly, I think the Frozen films are very pretty, and have some good messages, but they also tell girls and young women that the ways our parents f***ed us up are cute personalities quirks like immediately latching onto a stranger as your Prince Charming when you know nothing about them *cough* Anna *cough*.
@@rachell2172 Actually hopping onto that last point- the movie goes out of it's way to reprimand Anna for that ("You can't marry a man you just met" and all that jazz). Plus it makes sense for Anna to be that way because she was so desperate for any positive human interaction that she can connect to other than her own parents that of course she latched onto the perfect fairytale dream guy. Another analysis video described Anna's mindset in the beginning as this "She would do anything for the Happily Ever After, but nothing to stray away from that ideal", which plays into her arc in Frozen 2.
@@rachell2172 A movie can portray bad things without condoning them. I don't think the frozen movies ever condoned what the parents did. I suppose it would be nice with more of a direct mention of how fucked up the things their parents did was, but overall the movies clearly show that the parents decisions were in the wrong.
Sorry i must disagree.. THEY did that cuz TROLLS told them to. And for the big bad villan at the start of the movie hans looked and acted geniue in love... where coud that be just big trolls plan and not hanses?? besides why hans wouldnt kiss anna? he should just kiss and mary her and his entire plan would work out, but no he left her to die-- how does he intends to be a king with ho blood relations??
@@18stile I don't know exactly, how it happened, but I think he wanted to rule alone and therefore he wanted to get rid of both. And I think Hans told everyone, they gave each other the marriage promise right before Anna "died"
So, would Anna actually have died and Hans plan would have worked out, he would be the windowed man of Anna and therefore the first one with the right to claim the thrown.
So you could say, Elsa was ice-olated?
I know, i know, i'm off to my room to think about my life.
Just don't freeze the door! 😂
hehehe good one :)
@xInfoRaderx this is why I still have faith in humanity😂
Honestly, I was thinking the same thing
Damnit, of course someone got there first
Oh man. But the line "You are the one you've been waiting for" is so powerful to anyone that has had no sense of self and is trying to find their identity. It makes me burst into tears every time I hear it.
Literally tearing up just thinking about it man
"Who's is out there loving you, and do you let them? Who's there manipulating you? And do you let them?"
This really got to me. It made me think of my best friend... For the manipulation part. So I thought about why I felt that way and decided it was time for a good talk. After I asked the first question, she started accusing me of all kinds of things, brought up stuff from years ago that we already resolved and when I didn't give in to her, started to try and win sympathy by telling me all the horrible things that are happening to her.
All I said was: "I feel pressured when I'm with you. Did you know you had that effect on me?"
There was no way to have a good conversation with her. Anything I said would be used against me or twisted to make me the bad guy. And when I thought about it... That's something she did a lot over the years. She also tends to fill in how I feel and take it as the truth. (Example: I asked to get back my spare key. Her reaction: "she doesn't trust me! She thinks I'm going to use the key to break in!" ... I just asked for my key 😅) and there's no way to change her mind on it. I could tell her otherwise, prove that it's not true etc. But she'll still think of her thoughts as the truth. I broke contact with her. I finally saw her true self and the manipulation tactics she used.
I never thought a video on frozen would be the eye opener 🤭 but I'm truly grateful for you! My life became almost stress free and I feel 100 kilos lighter! Thank you! ❤️
Hey, I'm so glad you got out of that friendship! That line from the video really resonated with me, too. I just had a knack for having "best friends" who were toxic and manipulative to me. I just recently had to accept my best friend was a bad friend to me, and it's so weird getting therapy for it! It's like, I -want- to reconnect with people who valued and treated me well, nurture a relationship with them, become friends - but it feels so overwhelming and scary and impossible. I'm kinda stuck in a cycle of "too anxious to be friends with good people > will treat them badly (not respond to messages etc) > now I'm anxious about me being a bad friend to them" and the cycle begins again!
It's weird getting to hear that my overwhelm and fear comes from my core friendships in the past having been manipulative and shitty. Nobody tells you that friendships can hurt you this much, at such a core level! But little by little, even if it's hard work, I'm starting to get there. One good, kind friend at a time. I hope I can learn how to let people love me soon. And I also hope you're making space in your life for the people who treat you real good, as well. It's hard not to fall into old habits. I wish you the best, internet stranger of superb Pokémon taste!
@@ray23342 wow, I'm pretty much in the same space too! I'm afraid to trust people after it all and I'm afraid I've become a horrible friend myself. But just like you, I'm seeing a therapist for it! Admitting that a close friend is toxic for you is incredibly hard... And the aftermath is no joke. But by removing toxic people from your life, you make room for the right people to come in it!
I hope you find amazing friends with who you can be yourself. And thank you for your kind compliment, friendly internet stranger! ❤️
@@Yoyocreative Good luck then! A life filled with loving people awaits for both of us! ❤
I experienced this with my ex best friend, and there’s been SO much working through trust issues and gradually coming to terms with and working through everything I came to realize as a result of that fallout. But I’m a stronger, better-armed person now in terms of evaluating who I can trust when it comes to entering any potential friendships or romantic relationships
I am *so* proud of you. What you did takes an incredible amount of courage.
as an older sister with anxiety and depression with a younger sister who really looks up to me.. elsa learning to accept the fact that she isnt perfect and accepting who she was fully in frozen 2 was huge for me. i had always resonated with her character but frozen 2 hit really hard for me.
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I can relate! It's great to feel accepted by younger siblings who don't see us differently with what we go through. I wish you all the best and I wish you happiness :)
@@xZoeAnnex6160 you’re the sweetest
Yep, I relate. I'm in almost the exact same situation, actually. But I completely understand everything you said, and it really hit home for me too. I've always loved her character and understood her even when I was really young and the first film came out, but, same as you, the second film was incredible and just developed everything so much further. It helped me more than I like to admit it did, I think. I'm glad I found someone who feels the same as me. I love you, I wish you best of luck on your journey :)
Ugh I relate so hard. Even though I'm the younger sister, my older sister has disabilities to where I took care of her alot and I felt older. Well she loves me like Anna loves Elsa and its hard for me cuz I recently moved out for my own mental sake cuz my mom is super abusive and toxic (only to me) and my depression was reaching a really bad state. And I'm so sad cuz to save myself, I had to leave home and my sister and our relationship hasn't been the same since (she doesn't realize I left cuz our mom was abusive to me since she thinks the world of our mother) I miss my sister so much. Last time I saw her when I visited, I took her aside and apologized for leaving her and tried to tell her how I needed it for my healing and mental health and wellbeing and it was just so hard but she forgave me but we still don't talk like we used to :(
I'm an alcoholic. In my first bit of recovery, and Elsa's line "You are the one you've been waiting for all of my life." is how I feel about myself. I'm learning to love myself again, and I can say I'm excited and nervous for what I'm going to find.
Great ! One step at a time !
Good for you man!
I hope you're still doing well and rediscovering yourself three months on. Wishing you the best!
Congratulations on your way to recovery! You already made an important step.
Good luck and good success most of all!
Congratulations on your progress! You’ve got this!
Drives me nuts that people talk about these movies being over rated, these movies are incredible and send a beautiful message to children
You actually make a perfect point about “Let it Go.” It’s a catchy tune. You could reinterpret it as a song about coming out, escaping an abusive relationship, or gaining independence. As it’s being sung by Elsa within the context of the movie, she’s not in nearly as much of a happy and healthy place emotionally as she convinces herself she is in that moment. It’s a song where she’s saying “I’m a dangerous monster in my relationships with other people because of my powers, so I’m going to just run away from people altogether to a place where I can be free to use them alone without any potential consequences.”
It’s why I really do love that moment in the second film when she cringes before a snow/ice recreation of herself singing the last verse of “Let it Go.” She now recognizes that she wasn’t really in a healthy place emotionally when she was singing that song.
I love how her hair just completely comes down and flies wild in the second one. She's just moving from uptight to down but still braided and then totally free, and it's such a great symbol for her character development.
Also, the moment she realizes she has been seeking herself all along just hits me so hard; I cry a little every time.
It’s defiantly a masterful animation moment too- that hair scene slowed down is magnificent !!
As a hair enthusiast, I approve these comments!
Oh yeah, as someone on a long journey to self love that part always gets me.
I was also think its a symbolism of Elsa having more freedom
Omg yess I was going to say the same thing
Elsa's (and Anna's) stories seem more to me like parental cautionary tales. Their parents isolated and sheltered their children believing it was for their benefit, but didn't consider what would happen when they were no longer around or isolation was no longer an option (and it never was a guarantee for someone set to inherit the throne).
Sheltering their children led to one daughter exploring her freedom recklessly the moment she "let it go". She goes the whole nine yards, getting a sexy new outfit, changing her hair, living opulently (and I mean, come on, she brought at least 2 snowmen to life, one she didn't even know about, and if that's not an allegory for a sheltered teen stumbling unprepared into adulthood, idk what is.)
On the other side of the coin we have Anna who craved freedom so much she was ready to marry the first guy that showed an interest because she never developed the skepticism and intuition most people learn through trial by fire in their teens. She also left her kingdom in the hands of a would-be usurper to save her sister without really knowing who he was.
Their parents raised their children too reactively, and maybe the troll guy's message wasn't meant for Elsa, but for her parents. Their fear left their daughters woefully unprepared for life without their helicopter-level protection and ultimately put their daughters at greater risk.
Rather than working with Elsa's differences and providing her a safe space to explore her talents and become confident in them, they suppressed her and left her feeling like she would never be able to control it, that she would be trapped with this "curse" for the rest of her life.
Moral of the story: don't smother/suppress your kid's worrisome talents and interests, show their how to practice and channel their abilities safely!
This is an interesting lense to view the story that I hadn't considered before, it checks out.
Yeah the outcome was quite extreme
I like this a lot.
And I never once considered that Elsa accidentally bringing Olaf to life, was an allegory for unprepared parenthood. That's brilliant!
Oopsie! I accidentally made a life! Oh boy... 😂😂😂
I would like this comment if only it wasn’t biased and it didn’t have exclamation points at the end of sentences. Because fake yelling at us is very annoying and unnecessary. And living “opulently” doesn’t apply for ice castles and all the verbiage and cringe phrases just make me want to report your comment. Bye 🥰oh and they are not teens but either way that wouldn’t be an actual problem
I think of the message as: if your kids feelings scare you so much that all you can think of to do is to shame them into bottling them up, you as the parent needs to get help. If not, your child might grow up to be (a) isolated, miserable, depressed, anxious, self-loathing, watching their peers live their lives but not sure how to get from where they are now to a person who can be happy... and then go to years of therapy and it slowly gets better and they can grieve what they missed in the first thirty-something years of their lives and move on or (b) dead.
Thank you for this. I see myself in Elsa so much. I don’t think she craves isolation at all - she craves connection so much she is afraid of it, because she feels like she isn’t worth it. And in the second film, when she finally has everything she ever dreamed of and still doesn’t feel fulfilled, she has to be *so brave* when she goes on her journey of discovering, and that has to be done alone, which is her worst fear.
"Let it go" is a self-acceptance song and "Show Yourself" is a self-fulfillment song.
"You are the one you've been waiting for"
"Wardrobe is a huge part of expressing character."
Thank you Alan, I whole heartedly agree with that statement as a visual artist, cosplayer and someone who's interested in fashion. Elsa using her powers to change dresses is a part of her practicing and accepting them which was used in both movies. This also works as part of Captain America's arc after the events of Civil War, he changes outfits becoming Nomad before returning to reunite with the rest of tbe Avengers to take down Thanos.
Also this movie has stunning animation.
Indeed. It's a huge part of storytelling.
I remain always surprised and depressed by the average theatergoer's ignorance and strong / foolish demands.
Don’t forget that Cap growing a beard in Infinity War is significant to maybe hiding his face so that the government would probably not recognise him.
Also, Black Widow dying her hair blonde.
@@dclark142002 You have no idea what the 'average' (implying you are above-average somehow in a theater XD) theatergoer experiences/understands unless they communicate it to you.
I love that she has an ability that allows her to not just show who she is as a character, but her moment to moment emotions. That is a superpower I could get behind.
"The cold never bothered me anyways", she is not afraid of her abilities but of hurting others, like she did with Anna, because she couldn't control them.
I know it's a fictional character, but, in the song, it sounds like she is more excited to embrace who she is. Just a thought.
@@chillingongreens Yes!! She is no longer confined by her fear, because there is no one else around. She can finally embrace her powers without the fear of hurting others. She can finally use her abilities, after hiding them and who she is for so long. I think her powers are also a symbol for her inner self.
Hmm.. another perspective, I always assumed she means she wasn't bothered by being by herself.
@@ZainabJamaly I think she just convinced herself that isolation never bothered her because she just got so used to it over the years. I mean, she leaves the town and the first thing she makes is the snowman from her childhood - that she made to see her sister smile once upon a time.
So. . . Like Raven from Teen Titans, Elsa is letting her powers control her.
The best thing about Elsa and her "Let It Go" moment is that it can be interpreted as ANY of the ways that children can be different from their parents and not understood by them because of it.
13:30, Jono perfectly explains what is so compelling about Spiderman and Peter Parker. "With great power comes great responsibility" is such a great line not just because of the warning it is for people in power, but also the harmful potential it has on the psyche of good people who would lay down their lives for others.
Another bit of symbolism that caught my eye was when Elsa was preparing to cross the Dark Sea, she takes off her clothing. This being Disney, she can't of course remove everything, but she strips down to her undergarments and also takes her hair out of its elaborate braid and makes it into a simple ponytail. This is her getting back to basics.
A lot of critics panned Frozen 2 as mere cash grab, and the story is certainly not as polished as the original. But it still has important themes to address, and even Elsa's two songs, Into the Unknown, and Show Yourself are important milestones for the character. Show Yourself takes on a far more poignant meaning once you realize that she's essentially singing this to herself, not whatever power inhabits Ahtahollen.
The animation also easily makes this Disney's most beautiful fllm, and it's my personal favorite.
I actually like it a lot better than the first Frozen.
a cash grab? the first one made a billion dollars disney would be dumb not to make a sequel. and frozen 2 is honestly better than the first
Not everyone will see it this way (and I think that's entirely intentional, they didn't put her in a relationship for a reason) but as much as it is a metaphor for finding yourself in whatever your passion is, it also fits as a metaphor for motherhood itself. Crossing the dark sea could be giving birth/ other major challenges, and Show Yourself could be coming to yourself as you learn that you are exactly the parent you need to be. After all, it's distinctly her mother who shows her the way. Of course it's all metaphor and could be different things to different people, she obviously doesn't have an actual child in the movie, but that's the interpretation that means the most to me at my current stage of life. My 3 year old loves all the Frozen songs too 🥰
@@tengenforger4944 I certainly don't view it as a cash grab. As I said, it's my favorite Disney film, just that some critics did. It just wasn't as polished a script as the first because the crew was working to meet a deadline.
@@AlonaLeora I had never considered taking that scene as an analogy for motherhood, very interesting.
Often I think they didn’t give Elsa a girlfriend so they could avoid homophobic backlash, but sometimes I think a vague empowerment story can apply to more people
Jonathan: Shut the Hanses, embrace the Annases.
Alright sir, I'm about to commit a crime by stealing that line 👀
Shut out the gollumses, embrace the hobbitses.
@@tyleremery7088 and keep nasssty chips.
This may perhaps be a little far fetched but thinking of Show yourself as a metaphor for being a late-diagnosed autistic really resonates with me. Actually, Elsa’s whole character arc resonates with my autistic experience growing up. Going from believing something is wrong with me to later finding out who I am and that who I am is beautiful and awesome!!
I don't think that was intentional but it really fits, like penicillin.
@@OOB080 haha like that comparaison ! but yes this really resonates for me too
@@vicky_thegiantpossum For me too. I don't try to "conceal, don't feel, don't let them know", but when I was told that I was autistic it was like I was singing in my mind "I've always been so different, normal rules did not apply. Is this the day, are you the way I'll finally find out why?"
@@OOB080 Yeah totally !!
@@OOB080 Well wow that explains why I love that song so much
I really love the conclusion of this. I'm autistic, I have ADHD, I've been psychotic since I was 15 years old, among other things, and I've suffered a lot because of that and the isolation of being othered and abandoned when things get complicated and emotionally unsupported throughout my life.
I'm now an expert by experience in the mental health field, and it's my job to just listen to people who are in the same position I was, or have a loved one who is dealing with these things and it's creating negative situations and circumstances. I'm there for them to make sure they feel heard and understood, to give them my perspective through my own experiences and make them feel not alone in this fight, and if need be, alleviate feelings of blame and hopelessness and allowing them to stand up for themselves for the betterment of their mental health and their interpersonal relationships.
It makes all the pain and suffering and isolation I've had to endure worth it to me. I may not be able to reverse what happened to me, but I can use my own painful experiences to heal others and maybe even prevent things that I had to go through just by being there. And it helps me accept all the hurt I've gone through in the past, because it has meaning now.
I don't believe in fate or destiny, but it feels good that what I've gone through isn't just meaningless and that I can use it as a shield for others. All I want in life is to help others and make them happy or at least leave them in a better place than I found them, and if I make even one person's life better somehow, then I will do that.
I'd want to do something like this and want to study psychology but I haven't really been able to work through anything, the therapist I had did more harm than good and I dropped out of school, didn't even finish year 10 so I don't know if I can even do anything (I'm also currently 17) so yeah.
@@aspenture1087 It takes a lot of hard work, I have to say, but it's not impossible. It requires a lot of self-reflection and being painfully honest with oneself, but yeah. I've done much of my working through things by myself, and I didn't start until I was around your age. Your education is also not of much import, I graduated by the skin of my teeth when I was 15, with barely passing grades and I didn't pursue any form of higher education because I just don't gel well with formal schooling.
I'm 32 now, and I didn't make proper headway until I was 27, because I spent most of my 20s stoned from antipsychotics. If you have an interest in psychology, find a field that interests you and just start reading about it online. Read scientific journals, read the DSM, read blog posts from neurodivergent individuals storying their experiences, and start checking in with what sounds familiar to you.
I'm not saying it's gonna be roses at the other end. I'm still working on myself and I have to constantly check in with myself day-in day-out to make sure I'm mentally doing okay, and if not, then figure out what's going on. But you're still young, and undoubtedly smarter than you give yourself credit.
@@GHOST-in-the-MACHINE You seem really brave, and like a good person, and gosh I can't write, but you should know you deserve good things.
I love that this will be a two parter because family dynamics are so valuable. Also after watching Frozen 1 my sister mentioned how much this film reminded her of when I struggled with mh as teen, when she was still a kid. It was a lovely healing conversation.
I agree, I love the emphasis placed on the family dynamics, and how Elsa and Anna really grow closer as sisters.
@@trinaq Heya Trina! Absolutely. I love how both sisters are affected made the film (s) for me.
@Coline Clodine-Florent Oh Mental Health. Sorry about that. I used to work in mental health services (hurt people, hurt people, healed people heal people as Jonathan has mentioned). We used a lot of acronyms. MH was just a quick way of saying one of the support needs someone might have.
@@Firegen1 Greetings, I love how we keep meeting up on different social media platforms like this. Yes, their relationship is what really drives this story!
This is so beautiful, so happy for you 💛🥰
I think I speak for everyone else about Alan wearing the Elsa dress:
Challenge accepted.
I also ask for Jonathan as Anna, just to complete the look
alternatively, I will also accept Kristoff and Sven
My mom sews, but this might be a little too much to ask right now. Who else here sews?
@@Tzarina8472 the thread I came for. I would absolutely lose my collective cool and isolate upon seeing the 6’5 hunk in an dress
I think the easiest solution would be contact the person who made the dress for Channing Tatum's lip synch battle. They might still have it, and it might fit Alan, even though he's probably a bit taller.
More like the drag community has already done this and in fabulous 5 inch heels no less! Met a gorgeous queen at a drag show who performed let it go and she was superb!
Actually, I relate to Elsa in the 2nd movie. I left a marriage where I was severely emotionally neglected, and becoming severely depressed bc of it. I've been working on releasing my fear of singing in front of ppl--which is my passion.
So, as Elsa did, I'm finding myself and the inner strength no one in my life thought I had. They wanted me to STAY in my toxic marriage bc they all said I wouldn't be able to survive alone and divorcing would destroy my kids lives smh....everyone told me to stay for the kids---the kids were seeing a loveless, cold marriage--no, I didn't want that for them.
Thank you for being courageous enough to take that jump. As a child of an abusive parent who wishes my parents had divorced, you made the right decision.
As someone who grew up with parents who weren't abusive but clearly needed a divorce, thank you for doing the right thing, for you and for your kids. No child wants to see their parents wilt in each other's presence. If you had "stayed for the kids", the kids would have noticed. And they'd feel bad for existing and inadvertently forcing you to be miserable. That's not a good way to grow up even in non-hostile loveless marriage.
As a queer introvert woman, elder of her family who is happily single, I always felt big connection with Elsa. But when I realized how perfectionism and pressure have crippled and destroyed so many thing in me an my life, just like her, this connection went to the next level. Like, I recognize her to a painful level. But it's been amazing to see her path and her journey into self-growth and finding herself and happiness, while walking on mine.
I really hope you'll talk about Anna's depression in the second movie. That song hit me like no other
I just find it annoying that people claim Elsa had it bad when Anna had it just as bad. Not only was she isolated from her sister she didn’t even have the knowledge on why it was happening. She was still shut inside the castle so that’s not much better than a room itself. Then if you look at it she doesn’t even get cool powers to make up for it. And on top of that their horrible parents only spoke Elsas name in their death. No mention of Anna at all. Sadly due to popular demand all will ever see is Anna getting shoved to sidekick territory and treated less. She was treated less by her parents and by her sister when she didn’t even come out of her room when their parents died. She had no obligation not to tell her sister but chose not to. By doing so she damned to them both to more years of suffering.
Right?? Also, listening to Kristen Bell talking in the behind the scenes about that song and how hard it hit her made it even more powerful to me.
I experience frequent depressive episodes, and that "the next right thing" hit me so hard. I listened to it for weeks after and wept like a child because It really managed to put everything I felt into simple, understandable words. I love Annas story in frozen 2.
Yesss please
@@emmagifvars6364 irk? Especially the "you are lost, hope is gone, but you must go on and do the next right thing". You're in so much pain you'd rather just stop existing but you do it for loved ones who want to see you happy.
In Show Yourself, when Elsa sings “I can sense you there, like a friend I’ve always known,” you can see her reflection in the ice. I’m curious on everyone’s thoughts on that!
great observation; definitely symbolic of 'I am Found' she's just getting there to know 'She's the one she is looking for'
Definitely picking up on some hidden symbolism there
I love Disney's attention to detail and my argument for re-watching movies more than once is because you notice new details each time you re-watch it that you didn't catch before. Her reflection in the ice as she rides past it definitely makes sense when you think about the lyrics in the end of the song, very profound how Elsa learns where her place and role truly is.
Most of show yourself had some reflection of ice which is interesting
Losing her ego and finding herself
When the "forest people" began to sing the "Na na na" song, I started bawling because it was there I saw that Elsa had found home.
For me Elsa had a misdiagnosis in the first movie, she gets to know her symptoms, good and bad.. in the 2nd she finally gets the right diagnosis (home) .
The "na na na" song is called "Vuelie." I google it for further info, and I copy-pasted it here, because it's pretty cool (pun totally intended!)
"The song's full name is derived from Fjellheim's original "Eatnamen Vuelie". The original piece was a mix between a yoik-inspired melody and a hymn floating on top of that. That hymn was called Deilig er jorden - meaning “wonderful is the Earth”. ... Vuelie is the South Sámi word for "yoik”."
Ironically, I've been avoiding watching this video for a few months now mostly because I just love Frozen too much to let anyone have opinions on it, especially Elsa, and secondly because I am the most avoidant person I know. Whether it be avoidant of feelings or of big changes or people in general, I just avoid. Every few days I tell myself I'm gonna watch it and be better for it, but tonight I forced myself to sit down and watch it. 2 minutes in and I'm crying more than I have in a couple of years. I need to force myself to do things more often. Thank you, Alan and Jonathan, every single person who worked on these movies, and whoever made that edit of Elsa with the Mario noises.
i know exactly what u mean. watched on christmas finally and i love these guys so much. i've been have been in a bad mood for so long and now i instantly feel little bit of clarity
Same. EXACT. SAME. ♥
Same!
"Actually, [causing life by accident] happens a lot more often than we think." Legit LOL. Gasping for air here.
One estimate I read said that between "happy accidents", true accidents, and force/coercion, over 1/3 of all U.S. pregnancies are unplanned.
I always thought that “Show Yourself” should’ve been the single instead “Into the Unknown”. I feel like it holds way more weight. Especially when her mom joins in on the song. My emotions!
Indeed, but it would’ve spoiled the movie for people despite it being a much better song. In my opinion anyway.
Same! Show Yourself gives me happy chills every time I hear it. Into the Unknown was good but nowhere near as powerful to me.
I know I was crying and like almost bawling in the theatre it was SO powerful !!
Yeah, the only line that really impacted me in Into the Unknown was "Everyone I've ever loved is here within these walls, I'm sorry secret Siren but I'm blocking out your calls,"
That was my favourite too.
I relate to Elsa pushing people away. When I'm depressed, I isolate myself and push everyone around me away to the point where I end relationships/friendships because I don't want to burden them with my real self and instead of people hurting me, I push and basically delete people from my life in an instant because I would rather preemptively let go rather than let people in
what I love most about Elsa is the symbolism of her wardrobe throughout both movies.
In the beginning of the first movie, it's a very concealing outfit and hair style made even more constricting by the cloak. That cloak, to me, represents the rules her parents forced her to live by (bc of its purple color and purple=royalty) while the concealing dress in blue shades represents her own fears with the tight hairdo accenting that further.
In "Let It Go" she does loosen up by removing the cloak, letting her hair down, and changing her dress. These changes show how she's literally letting go of those things that had been suffocating her, but her hair and dress are still fairly constricted and concealing respectively because she's still afraid of what might happen if she loses control.
But, then, by the end of "Frozen 2" she has the completely free-flowing hair and loose, maneuverable dress which shows how she's truly set herself free of her fears and I think it's all a beautiful, and somewhat inspiring, development
Mum - "you are the one"
Elsa - "I've been waiting for all of my life"
That self love makes me cry. Being enough for yourself is one of the hardest things.
The lack of fear she has when stepping onto an incomplete bridge and then sailing across it and completing the steps underneath as she ascends gives me strength.
Maybe thats healthy fear thi x3
One thing I like to remember is that the patterns between the two sisters were created by their dysfunctional parents, and by the time of the first frozen movie they were barely out of their teen years, really just young women, and not truly individuated yet. Elsa isolated herself, not just because of the trauma of hurting Anna, but because her parents conditioned her to believe that her she was dangerous to others (conceal, don't feel, don't let it show) and kept her isolated. It led to her self hatred, depression, and emotional dysregulation. And Anna paid the price for her parents' decisions as well, because she lost a sister and best friend, grew up alone, and became codependent and anxious.
I think a lot of the first frozen movie was truly about both girls individuating from the patterns and messages they were given growing up --- Elsa challenging her father's teachings (finding the beauty and joy in her powers again, which was the step that needed to happen before she could believe she was lovable), and Anna sticking up for her needs too --- standing up to Elsa and saying, "hey, I'm hurting too. I can't live in isolation anymore!" What I love so much about their relationship is that there is so much willingness and messy, healthy growth, from the moment they decided they were going to create their own family rules. And you can really see that in the spring short, christmas short, and frozen 2.
Elsa was the first animated character I related to on a deep level. Both "Let It Go" and "Show Yourself" hits something really deep and I love her arc overall. Far more relatable than most other Disney princesses and animated characters.
Talking about the snow animation:
There was a simulation program developed to achieve this,
a simulation program so detailed and realistic that it was later used to solve the Diatlov pass case, where a group of hikers was found dead without anyone knowing why for several decades. Turns out it was a specific kind of snow avalanche that they could recreate using the program
PS: Some people in the replies had an idea for an episode. You could ask Caitlyn Doughty from Ask a Mortician to come and talk about a movie like Coco or My Girl. We think it would be a great fit since she is an expert on grief and death positivity and is able to handle these topics with alot of care
That's so cool!
thank you, this is interesting
Oooh did you learn this from Death Mother too?
@@vampiresRhot Why yes, hello fellow deathling ^^
There is a wonderful documentary on how this happened on the ask a mortician channel from Caitlyn doughty on the subject which is facinating and actually very recent. Within the past 2-3 years was this case worked on.
The song "show yourself" when Elsa says "I am found" it brings tears to my eyes every time. Definitely some hurt in regards to being seen by parents
For me it’s when the mom sings, the waterworks starts for real then😭
@@mldag1678
Same. Can never get through with dry eyes.
Show Yourself is one of the best Disney songs of all time imo. Better than Let It Go for sure. Way better than Into The Unknown.
@@therealpskilla502 I firmly believe that Disney used Into the Unknown as a ruse making us think that's Elsa's power song in the movie so they could absolutely bamboozle us with the masterpiece of Show Yourself
@@therealpskilla502 Let it go is way better. It is a more real song. Show yourself is just cheesy and inauthentic.
My sister accidentally outed me as a lesbian to our family right around the time Frozen came out in theatres. It was "Let it Go" and Elsa's journey that genuinely helped me past that point in my life. I'm like... 30, but at the time, as a young 20-something, Elsa's story of concealing into being true to herself and owning it meant everything to me. I'll love her forever.
Into the outknown made me feel like I had an addiction to my anxiety. And there was soooo much fear in letting go of my anxiety
I cry every time Anna freezes when saving Elsa.
I cry every time Elsa finds herself/her mom.
Every. Time. My husband jokes with me that I need to stop because it's not healthy. But these movies are just *chef kiss* at making you feel.
I, too, loves those movies. I assume my nieces will one day outgrow they love for Frozen as they won't stay little girls forever (though they may rediscover it later in life) but it will always stay one of my favorite movie duologies.
Yes! These films are extremely cathartic and therapeutic!
I cry on most animated films, but the Frozen films and Moana are especially powerful. And I love them for that. Oh, and Inside Out as well, it's so amazing!
I think maybe he should stop, and try some too, because my guess is underneath that joke is fear/doubt. Maybe I'm wrong, but in general people who are comfortable with their own feelings don't joke about someone else expressing theirs - even when its from living vicariously through a fictional character - is somehow bad or wrong.
If it's good for you, helps you, and doesn't hurt anyone else, then keep doing your thing! That includes crying with films, so cry on!
Elsa was the first disney princess or queen that I felt like I can relate to, I have people who love me but I suffer from extreme social phobia and manic ddepression, so I literally have to shut myself up because if I go aoutside and try to talk to people then I start to have panic attacks, I cant breathe, I start to throw up and everything goes blurry, I think that scene in the ice castle where Elsa reezes aAnnas heart is perfect example of panic attacks
Definitely 🥰
My sisters laugh because I still ugly cry every time Anna saves Elsa. Then again, I'm ugly crying in pretty much every film/show, so a lot of their laughter probably comes from there. Just to be clear, it's just a teasing, sisterly way to pick on one another and I get my turn on other things.
Thanks for reminding me of that, as movie weekends with our families have been out of the table for so long because of Covid, so these are great memories to be reminded, that I cherish.
I feel like the way Elsa changes through both movies is the same feels I had when I got diagnosed with ADHD at 25. It was like an "Oh, I am not a failure, I just have to do things differently.... I can embrace the way my brain is wired instead of fighting it." LET IT GOOO! (of course, there is still work to be done, but now I know how to do the work!)
Samesies!
I suspect I have ADHD and now, I know have to work with my brain too.
Like your own super power? right? I like to think of as my own personal super power. Seeing on colour and caring about much more. :)
(and wouldn't have it any other way now that I understand it.)
It's lovely to be part of a community finally of people that can relate, espacailly in a creative thrlougtful way. Thanks! :D
@@leazypeazy4026 Exactly!
With adhd does one need to be hyperactive?
10:16 Oh. My. Goodness. I just thought of something symbolic about Elsa's braid. Yes, she lets her hair down, which symbolizes that she's not afraid anymore. Like in the expression "let your hair down", right? But she doesn't let it completely down, she doesn't remove the braid. So she still has some fear and self-loathing left. She doesn't let her hair down until the end of Frozen 2.
The first one came out when I was diagnosed with autoimmune issues. I saw so much of myself in Elsa (hiding, isolation, fear, etc). The second one came out while I was in the process of naturally healing my body (a rebirth lol.. courage, strength, growth, etc). Love love love Elsa so much 💙✨
I love that the "act of true love" had nothing to do with who loved Anna. It was about who Anna loved.
True, anna focused more on trying to find elsa and get her to open up to her. Having a man by her side (even though it does happen later on) was the last thing on her mind
People want to take that away from her too. Stating that Elsa did it. Like poor girl can't have one thing without being thrown into her sister's shadow.
@@taiya001 exactly. Anna is a wonderful character and all people think about her is her wanting to marry a man she's just met. I'm glad people started noticing her after Frozen 2. And i love how in Frozen 2 the writers had her made that comment summaring her role in Frozen 1 😂
As someone suffering from an anxiety disorder I highly relate to Elsa. I don’t like to feel because if I feel I start getting panic attacks I will loose control and hurt the people around me. Her songs also helped me with coming out as gay.
After my first panic attack and being super afraid of myself, I listened to “Let it go” and it really helped.
I have anxiety too, and you're totally on to something!!!!
When Frozen first came out, my anxiety was probably the worst it's ever been--I was experiencing frequent panic attacks, and everythign felt uncertain and out of control. I became obsessed with the movie (like most other 10 year olds), and looking back, I think it resonated with me so much because I related to Elsa's fear and isolation. In the reprise of "For the First Time in Forever," Elsa sings: "I'm such a fool, I can't be free/no escape from the storm inside me." I have yet to find another phrase that so perfectly sums up a panic attack.
@@marycapossela2090 omg that’s my favourite moment from the movie! When the storm builds and she belts out and then looses control. It’s so perfect
I agree with you 100%! I too am gay, have anxiety and am suspected to be on the autistic spectrum. I frequently isolate myself and just being around other people makes my skin crawl. Whenever I am trying to socialize with others, I get mentally and sometimes physically exhausted. I also somehow almost always manage to push them away, creep them out or make them think I am weird. When I saw this movie, I immediately empathized and related with Elsa. The isolation, the social awkwardness, it really is something that is relatable. So seeing her growing into someone who can let go of her metaphorical chains, it is gratifying and relieving. Now I myself am not at a place where I can let go yet, it is a process. But seeing this, I can think to myself “if a Disney character can let go and grow like that, then so can I!”
Show Yourself gave me way more chills than it deserved to...well at least I used to think it didn't
18:22 From a more spiritual perspective, I love how Elsa feels most connected and alive when "alone" with the spiritual. She's so connected with nature and non-human things; it's like those things are home to her. They get her. She can be fully herself and feel seen/understood in their presence. This happened in Frozen 1 during Let it Go, and again in Frozen 2 during Show Yourself. As much as she has people around her who love her, she finds freedom and home in the spiritual more than with people, and I relate to that.
this is so good! and yeah i totally agree here.
It’s easy to hate on Frozen but I’ll never forget the feeling as a little kid watching Elsa go off on her own, and right when I thought she was going to break, become a villain or just burst into tears she suddenly began singing. She was strong, free, and joyful! It’s so cheesy to say but I’d never seen that before! I rewatched that seen so many times when I was younger because I was just amazed. She was rejected by everyone, she should have not survived but instead she was happy. It still feels magical to me. This idea that even when everyone throws you away you still have worth, grow, and can delight in yourself
A lot of the hate for Frozen was more that it got credit for a lot of Disney Firsts that it actually wasn't the first of. For example, the first Disney movie featuring a strong pair of sisters(Lilo and Stitch) or the first Disney movie that wasn't strictly about a guy and a girl falling in love. Frozen got a lot of credit that really belonged to older movies.
@@cairrean2412 I'm not sure if this is true or not as it's only my personal observation, but Frozen 2, to me, was the first "big" Disney film that seriously committed to showing strong emotions in ways that they hadn't before. Anna's song in the cave was so heavy and Elsa's reaction to seeing her mother's face in the glacier hit so well. It kinda did away with "graceful" crying like the older movies did and introduced real, heavy, and uncontrollable crying ~ especially anna's reaction when kristoff proposed. Are there any other movies that did this before? Maybe I just need to watch more Disney
ur pfp is ahsoka and ur here praising elsa... honestly relatable af
Woah ikr wtf
@@cairrean2412 I think My neighbor Totoro does a better job of sisterly love because the film is easier to understand. My problem with Frozen is that the moral is not clear. If fear is the reason why Elsa lost control of her powers then shouldn't the moral be, there's a problem with bottling up your emotions???????
I remember seeing this movie in theaters. When Hans said, "Oh Anna, if only there was someone who loved you." the entire theater gasped and this grown man screamed, "OH HELL NO!!“ 😂
Just now while watching the show yourself again for how many times already, I noticed a few thing.
1. Chills, I get chills each time I watch it and especially when you dig deeper into the meaning of the song.
2. I can tell what she's saying by how her mouth moves for me.
3. I see how she's holding her tears when she saw her mom, like I actually see tears building up to her eyes and she's just holding it back.
4. It's amazing
Watching these movies as someone with anxiety disorder really hits close to home. Elsa always struck a chord in me with her fears and self-doubt, and her learning to overcome that in lieu of confidence and freedom is so inspiring
To this day, the scene where Elsa realizes that she's the answer she's been looking for, when she finds herself, I WEEP. That scene will never not make me cry.
It's beautiful. Who we are....our true selves...is enough.
same. i always cry too T_T
i always get goosebumps during that scene! ❤
Same! I tear up everytime she sings "I am found."
That is so powerful and it really resonates with me, since I dealt with being bullied and not being accepted for who I am. I loved the second movie for a lot of reasons (ie Mental health, Kristof being a great example for guys everywhere), but this is the main one.
I think Jonathan's "Man of Steel" interpretation of how Elsa's parents understood Grand Pabbie's warning to be the more accurate one. I believe Elsa's parents entirely interpreted Grand Pabbie's warning that "fear will be your enemy" to mean that other people's fear of Elsa's power will be the biggest danger to her. That's why they worked so hard to conceal her powers. I don't think it ever even occurred to them at all that it might be Elsa's own fear that Grand Pabbie was referring to.
I always wondered about that for a parent's perspective. A lot of people really don't know how to handle situations. Although I think Pabbie provided poor support, it was a good answer. Sometimes things really need to be reinforced and supported so that they learn how to accurately deal with things. Like any mental health situations. I know I wish therapists and others had given my mom the proper support to give it to me. Though the parents had each other they clearly needed more support.
(Ironic being a king and queen, but maybe symbolic that even great people need help.)
i really thought they were just bad parents. thinking about it from this perspective redeems them. unfortunately it doesn't explain why the dungeon has handcuffs that block elsa's power.
i also never understood why the troll had to say anything about it. i think anna and elsa would've had a better childhood if he kept that prophecy to himself. or offered to help elsa learn to control her powers.
@@lpatterson787 the gloves block her power, anything that covers her hands can do that. I think quite possibly they may have had the cuffs set up for maybe just in case she went completely out of control or something? It could be something they all discussed and she asked for, because she became terrified of hurting people after the accident with Anna
Yeah, but I also think that interpretation had a lot to do with the image Grand Pabbie showed them (It was Else being surrounded by red/angry people and them launching at her). I would've thought the same tbh
@@lpatterson787 I can't imagine a child asking for something like this... but them being afraid of not being able to stop a panicking Elsa from hurting somebody could be one of those "let's hope I never have to use this" situations.
.... As someone who struggles with isolationism.... I think I needed this.
When she sang with her mom, I bawled. I didn't lose my mom, she abandoned me...yet something touched me at that moment. To me, it felt like closure.
Not me, over here crying at “I am fooooooouuuuunnnnnnnddddddddd!”
And following up with "you are the one you've been searching for all of your life" my heart just can't....
@@valmarques "you are the one you've been searching for all of your life" is my favourite line. I have never felt so liberated in my life. The self acceptance is overwhelming
I understand all of you. Never knew how teary that line would make me 💛
I like to sing along with the song and sometimes I don't even get that emotional but at that line i ALWAYS choke up, I can't help myself ><
It's a feeling I wish to find so badly one day, step by step I suppose :')
I started tearing up too! I don’t think I cried watched the movie, but watching this video? For some reason cinema therapy just makes it easier to cry
The song has also been interpreted by some as a "coming out" metaphor for being autistic/neurodivergent. The wanting to be alone because when you're alone it's okay that you're different than other people really fits with that.
Exactly, so glad you pointed this out. This film and its sequel helped me and my sister communicate what it was like for each other during my depression/anxiety/eating disorder and autism diagnosis, and how as kids we barely ever talked, but we managed to heal our sibling relationship by communicating and not shutting each other out.
Also the fact that Elsa could be interpretated as lgbt or ace helps a lot, there's not that many role models and it helps a lot that there are now. Like Brave, too.
So glad you pointed this out! Elsa's powers seem so autism coded to me. Does wonders to explaining why I related to her so much when I was younger since I'm both gay and autistic.
Thank you so much your comment means more to me than you can ever imagine I am self diagnosed with autism trying to get professionally tested but too many things are going against me right now but yes you are correct about the song thank you again so much it just about made me cry
I've always wanted to shut myself out of people as a kid like imagine just staying in your room on your own adding to fact that I had an IEP didn't helped me but everytime i read it i mentally want to lock myself out. Similarly to Elsa wanted to also keep everyone out I don't think I'll interpret an lgbt ELSA but a coming out seems right to me.
@@sophiagonzales8974 I have to agree with you when I was younger and I’ll get home from school I would completely just disappear out into the backyard or the hill behind our yard where there was trails and I will go back there and find a nice spot and sit and just listen to the birds and other animals and avoid the snakes because I have a huge fear of snakes and I just would just try and be by myself most of the time if not all the time every so often I would sit back and watch my dad work on the cars and other things but otherwise I did spend more time with my mom because I somehow identified with her as a transgender girl which I never revealed back then but otherwise I’d like my alone time a lot more because it made me feel safer and made me feel better so yeah I agree with you
I finally watched the sequel so i could watch this video and "Show Yourself" absolutely destroyed me. It reaches so many places: coming home, reconnecting with your roots, counting on yourself and being your own power/hero, leaning into your past and elders to guide you. I sobbed. Hard. Several times. And Elsa asking the voice to show itself when it could be her talking tonherself. This whole movie she's still revealed to be surpressing herself because she wants to be in nature. She's beseeching herself to be honest.
Someone else once pointed out that, in the time period, they didn't have cameras or anything. So whereas those of us in modern day time can usually just go back and watch a video of our lost loved one, Elsa couldn't. Makes you realize how much harder it must have hit Elsa, seeing her mother's face and hearing her voice just the same as when she had been alive.
I have a friend who has depression and Elsa resonated with her IMMENSELY! She adores her character and tried to emulate her on some occasions.
I know.. I'm dealing with depression and I found frozen and Elsa like the most relatable movie and character ever.
Anna's song, the Next Right Thing, comes from a mantra Kristen Bell has when she's in the throws of depression. The Disney+ documentary about the Making of Frozen 2 discusses it and Kristen Bell talks about how she manages with depression while having a career and family responsibilities.
My friend was obsessed with Elsa, but also shipped her and Hans really hard.
@@reikun86 perhaps in another life. Where he isn’t such a douche, lol.
ME! I’m a character performer for Elsa, I literally just did an event as her this past week, and I relate a lot to her on a mental health level 🥺💙
"Fear of rejection, or fear of who you are causing others pain." Elsa reminds me of teenage Clark Kent from Smallville
Isnt Clark Kent a teen in smallville? Pretty sure at least the first season he’s in high school.
@@loracorwyn3713 Isn't that what I said? 🤨
@@breezy3392 yes lol. Sorry I misread it
Wow, you're right, so similar!
yessss i love that show ahaha
I am actually diagnosed with PTSD, Panic Attacks, GAD, reoccuring thoughts, (constant nightmares and sleep paralysis) and, of all things, a personality disorder literally rare as hell known as Avoidant Personality Disorder.
It's been hell to manage and I have had to force myself to do my best not to avoid things out of habit. It's gotten way better and manageable, even. My progress from just a year ago is rather impressive, but it's still there and my bad days are horrible. And my PD just complicates everything. My guy, luckily, will point out when I'm actively avoiding something and I literally have to calm down and take a moment and only then acknowledge that 'yes, I'm avoiding that' and then, depending on what it is I'm avoiding at that moment, I can face it within minutes or it can take a day or two before I'm ready. It just depends, but at least I can do it now.
So I can relate to Tony Stark and Elsa to very large degrees and I can, also unfortunately, tell when someone else is literally about to have a panic attack in front of my face and can, this part fortunately, help them manage it. It's hard to do. Ridicously. And you have to also be ready to help yourself through it and not just let habit take over. Which is why Tony Stark was able to refocus on the mechanics part so easily, it gave him something he could control again, something to focus on. That's all that you need sometimes and other times, just a really good support system.
I’ve dealt with anxiety and depression since my early teenage years. I’ve always been told by my family that mental disorders are things that we don’t talk about in order to not be seen as „weird“. When Elsas first song come out, it hit me right in my chest. A little while before I’ve let go of all of my beliefs that my family told me over the years. I‘ve never felt so liberated. This sound spoke to me deeply.
Oh and by the way: I love your channel. Keep up the great work!
i’m late but i feel the need to comment right now. the same thing happened to be with the depression and anxiety occurring since i was 12. i finally got diagnosed this year with bipolar 2 disorder at 20. only now i do have a supportive parents who is trying to understand my condition better even though they were skeptical of it at first. keep going! you’re not alone! we’re in this together 🤗🫶🏻
I did an early press day for Frozen 2 (I'm a critic/journalist) and regarding how Elsa moves, that's exactly right: They wanted her to move and interact like a dancer. They wanted her to be as graceful as she is powerful with her magic to maintain her elegance.
I’d love to get you’re guys’ take on Zuko/Azula from Avatar: The Last Airbender.
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Yes yes
Sokka, Katara, Toph, and Aang as well
Omg yess
Me too they have such a complex sibling relationship
How Elsa's hair "dances" for a split second @20:42 is one of my favourite animated moments in Frozen II. It is such a small detail, but so VERY WELL animated. I've read that Elsa's character has 400,000 individual strands of hair in the Frozen movies. If that is showing anywhere, it is absolutely here.
My sister and I watched Frozen 2 in theatres together!! We went with friends too and ended up sitting a couple people apart, but when Show Yourself came on, we leaned forward to look at each other and smile. Obviously it's not a sister moment, but for us it kinda of was anyways. We have a tumultuous relationship sometimes kinda like Anna and Elsa even though we also have each other's back. We are such different people, even down to what we are good at (our "superpowers if you will) and it sounds silly but this little princess movie is by far one of my faves because it's almost like a love story to every Oldest Daughter, every Little Sister, every group of siblings, every "Mom Friend", everyone trying to figure out how to live for themselves, and everyone hoping to find what they are here for. And that song can carry so many meanings, so for us I think it was just knowing that we can "show ourself" to each other. Like that's my sister, dude. There's almost no one else who can stand me anyways 😂💖 Who else is going to drive with me to get food and tell me all the work chisme??
I love Frozen 2 so much. Oh uh ahem and I also love Cinema Therapy
I think this line from Adventure Time perfectly describes Elsa:
“But I don’t wanna hurt nobody”
“Well that’s too bad, cuz you’re gonna hurt everybody!”
Elsa is easily one of the greatest Disney characters.
Frozen is a fairy tale about trauma and coping. Elsa used isolation and avoidance in order to cope with abuse and grief. Few animated movie characters have taught me more about self-acceptance and love.
I’m so glad she’s popular with children and LGBTQ people
Seconded, she's such a complex, compelling character. You can understand why she makes the decisions she does, and I liked how she wasn't made into a villain, but a protagonist who learns from her mistakes, and really grows as a result.
I particularly like show yourself because it is such a powerful song about self acceptance.
@@trinaq First off, HI TRINA!
Also yeah, it’s weird that the Frozen films get a lot of hate yet I can’t think of any Disney animated films that have stronger character work. Elsa and Anna are fantastic characters.
@@tariqthomas9090 Greetings, Tariq! Frozen is definitely one of the best Disney movies in recent years, and while the sequel isn't as strong for me, it still continues Elsa's journey to find herself, and places a strong focus on Anna and Elsa's bond.
@@tariqthomas9090 I think the hate is just people (especially parents) getting tired of.
My faborite disney princess was always Elsa, because she was an introverted person. Almost every other disney princess is outgoing and fun and spontaneous, and for some people that is not relatable at all. Also, I was always a bit depressed as a child (then it actually became serious depresssion), so the song Let It Go was so meaningful to me. I saw Elsa both as someone I wanted to learn from and someone I could relate to.
I know I’m a year late to the party, but the snow animation in Frozen is *so* advanced that the animators actually used the technology to solve the mystery of the Datlov Pass Incident (bunch of Russian hikers in the Ural Mountains found dead with odd injuries, some of them in various states of undress and no clear cause of death).
I now can’t watch Show Yourself without thinking about “Super Mario Elsa”
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“Fear of rejection or fear of who you are, causing others pain - so you just isolate.” We’re not unpacking this today, Jonathan.
Show Yourself still makes me sob every time I listen to it. Elsa goes from searching for an answer to realizing that she is the answer and that she gets to decide her own purpose. And it truly gets me EVERY time.
In Show Yourself, when the dress begins to emerge while her mother watches, it seems like when the daughter turns 15 and "enters the adult life" in one of those ancient rituals, but which at the core is the mother's love for her daughter... This is so beautiful, gets me everytime.
The horse with glowing eyes isn’t the scariest part. That “Horse” is a mythological creature with one heck of a myth
What's the myth?
@@tanmayaande3850 The horse in Frozen 2 reminds me of a Kelpie, which is a horse spirit that lures people onto its back and into water so it can drown them but I’m not sure if that was the inspiration for this horse
@@tanmayaande3850 The Nokk
@@MisterMooo Thanks
@@evepower8460 That might not be the inspiration but thanks
I wish some day we get an episode for Zuko's redemption arc from ATLA
It would be great, but unfortunetly, unlike other films presented here, Avatar saga is a bit too long. If it came true, it would take time. But at the end I agree - awesome ♥️
YES.
@@olak8800 they could do in multiple parts based on the book 1, 2, and 3
I have very recently escaped homelessness due to leaving an ex partner. I been isolating myself in order to not hurt anyone or get hurt and everything the both of you mentioned during the song “let it go” completely broke me down. Thank you both so much for the education, validation and compassion this channel brings to those of us who struggle to accept either though so desperately need.
I just had an Epiphany. Elsa and Edward Scissorhands have a lot in common.
1. Both have abnormal gifts that could make something beautiful but also cause harm.
2. Both are not the best in big social environments.
3. Both became ostracized in their films but still have people who love them.
Any thoughts about this?
Personnally, Elsa always reminded me of Peril from the book serie Wings of fire, idk if you've read it. Althought the ''gift'' that Peril posseses definitively can not create beauty.
To me it makes a lot of sense, that the writers intended “let it go” to be a song about coming out of depression, since Frozen is based on the fairy tale “The Snow Queen”, which also deals with escaping depression
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Watching Frozen when it first came: ""Elsa is so cool! I love this song!"
Rewatching years later: "dang.... This movie is dark...."
Welcome to fairy tales!
Most of them are legit scary.
Some stories are scary only when we become adults. Take 'It's a Wonderful Life'...cool Christmas film to a child. As a father...legit horror. It shows clearly how, even if you do EVERYTHING right, things can still go horribly wrong. The safety margin between acceptable life and nightmare is threadbare...Nowadays I refuse to watch it unless I have time to reach the ending.
If you ask random people what they think about her, she seems like a cold hearted selfish person who didnt care about her sister. But when in reality she was suffering from anxiety
So moral of the story about Elsa is when you learn to trust yourself in your capabilities, you can learn to trust others by letting them in which can form a healthy relationship. Of course, letting the people you trust into your life.
I am actively learning to differentiate between people who truly love and care about me vs people who would manipulate me when I have low self-worth and blame myself. Hope I can get out of this mess!