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@darkecofreak Stellan also played Commander Richter, head of the Swiss guard, in "Angels and Demons". Piers did a great job as Chiron in the first "Percy Jackson movie". And who can forget "Love, Actually", am I right? (5/14/2024)
Fun Fact about this film a lot of the 'extra's who you see dancing are actually locals who live on the Island and asked if they could join in. The people on the docks dancing were all locals living on the island originally not intended to be in the film!
Oh my god I love this! One of the best things about this film is how everyone there looks like they're having so much fun, so it's even better to know the locals were purely there for the party haha
That is a cool tidibit. Kinda impressive that the direction accepted and instructed them well enough for the movie. Bet this movie has a special place in everyone's heart there.
Calling this movie “a drunken karaoke party with A-list actors” is hands downs the BEST and most accurate description of this movie I’ve ever heard! 😂🙌🏻
There's something about this first Mamma Mia movie that just RADIATES joy to me. The deep, loving bonds between friends, the way Sophie spends the whole movie trying to connect with her father but ends with recognizing all her mother's efforts and honoring her instead, it's just all so FUN! It certainly helps that everyone apparently had a blast filming this movie and getting drunk on a beautiful Greek island lmao
Seconded, it's the perfect movie to watch with your mum. Sophie and Donna's bond is the highlight of these movies, and Amanda and Meryl really convince as a daughter and mother.
It works because the 6 older actors of the main cast are just having a blast. I mean logically doesn't work because the age gap between mother and daughter is actually 20 years too much :) The musical is wonderful as well and well... flipper dance.
@@lusalma5404 I'd always thought Donna had aged quite a lot from 1979 (Mamma Mia Here We Go Again) and, I presume, 1999, or thereabouts, since Mamma Mia is set 20 years after she had her dot dot dot :)
I read that when Pierce Brosnan signed onto this film he had no idea what it was, only that it would be filmed in Greece and Meryl Streep was in it. And honestly, that’s all I would need too
Responding to the critics who panned Pierce Brosnan's voice, he replied (something to the effect) "But we all had SO MUCH FUN!" What a great response to the trolls!
Brosnan apparently knew he couldn't sing & thought it was a bad idea, but they really wanted him, so he got voice lessons, & despite being terrified, he gave it everything he had.
@@sunflower17k I might be the only one who actually think he can sing. But it's very "This is how James Bond would sing with too much alcohol and smoking".
I saw this in theaters with my mom because we saw the US Tour when I was younger (I had to comfort my mom during “Slipping Through My Fingers” and then once I was older and able to appreciate our relationship we held hands and cried through the song) and I will NEVER forget the audible groans EVERYTIME Pierce Brosnan opened up her mouth to sing 😂😂😂 This musical/film is the perfect example of mindless, fluffy camp with a few poignant moments. You don’t tune in to model relationships/acts, you just tune in to have fun… One of my mom’s fave bits of the musical was when the trio of men join in with the crazy disco outfits and when they appeared on screen at the end, she out loud said, “OMG LOOK AT THEM!” And the whole theater erupted in renewed laughter and applause…
My dad was obsessed with this movie, we watched it together million times. Mum was always saying 'why you keep watching this crap, this movie is not good' and never watched it with us. My father died. Few months later, for Christmas, here we go again was on TV for the first time. We watched it together with my mum and she said 'oh dad would watch it if he was with us'. ❤️❤️
This was one of my mom’s favorite movies, and I could never stand it. She passed away in October, and this one, and the sequel both made me sob and miss her, but it reminded me of her light and joy in the music she loved.
"Her wild past." Yes, how dare a woman in her early twenties have sex with three different men over the course of a wild summer in the late 70's/early 80's. I'm just saying, Donna's past isn't all that wild by today's standards.
Yeeees absolutely, they are the heart of the movie. My mom always cries when we see the slipping through my fingers scene. We always have a moment together, and it's so emotional
Yeah! I was hoping the episode would be more about the themes of family/growing up, ageing, pressure on women to marry, and the mother and daughter relationship of the film because that scene is so beautiful.
@@oblivionangel13 Yeah, I was surprised they didn't show more empathy for Donna. I was expecting them to go a little more deeply into the reasons why she was 'lying' to Sophie. I think Jono and Allan are totally allowed to dislike movies they review but when they don't give proper/balanced reviews and just eviscerate the characters it really annoys me. Particularly when it's a movie that many women love and connect with (like Mamma Mia and Labyrinth). I feel like they should have brought in female guests for these episodes like they have in the past.
Honestly I don't know why ABBA had such specific songs but I'm glad they did.(also I'm glad all these a-list drama actors got to do something fun and campy)
@@Maribelinda63 BESTIE WHAT DO YOU MEAN? Literally the movie is an adaptation of a musical that was written SPECIFICALLY around these songs. The story was written FOR these songs (apologies if you feel attacked, tone over youtube comments never translates)
I think it's genius how they created a context story for all these different songs. They aren't just one song after another in this, these lyrics contain plot now.
The energy they had on film was a direct translation of the environment on set. They had an absolute blast filming this and you can tell. It’s legendary. There are photos from their wrap party on location and it didn’t even seem like they had stopped filming.
A question this episode raises but doesn't address is "What is a 'good movie'?". If the purpose of Mamma Mia is to entertain, and the movie does, does it matter that the plot is Shakespeare grade, and the actors can't sing, but pour their heart into the performance anyway?
I wish more people had this view. There's this incessant need to "critical analyze" everything, and so often that just misses the point. Trying to paint art as, essentially, "objectively" good or bad is just weird.
I was going on about that: if the movie did its job, it was charming, entertaining, and the actors were enjoying themselves without phoning it in (I'd argue even Brosnan wasn't phoning it in he just really needs some singing lessons), why is it "bad"?
Literally the part that irritated me in this video and all the other movie critiques who analyse movie. If the movie's job was to entertain u and it has done the job. Then it's a pretty great movie. That's it
I mean, being able to capture the whole silly energy and feel-good sunny-ness everyone seems to have had on this amazing set is probabaly not that easy. Yes, the story isn't super deep, yes, most of the budget probably went into the song licences and a-list actors, but they made it work. I have watched so many "better" movies that don't make me feel half as much as this one, and I think making the viewer actually feel things is the most difficult part. This movie has done that exceedingly well, so I don't care if these emotions are just "fluffy sunshine" instead of "deeply thought provoking abd existential", this movie has pulled off that magic trick, and that makes it one if the best movies I've watched.
With perhaps one exception, I usually dislike musicals. I am grateful for Allan and Jono for covering this movie because I probably never would have known much about it otherwise.
My parents never kept it a secret from us that our oldest sister was an accident that lead to their shotgun wedding. Because of that, myself and all my siblings were very careful with relationships, didn't start actually dating until we were adults, and had very few relationships before finding our permanent partners. Being honest with your kids is so important. Letting them learn from your mistakes allows them to skip having to make the same mistake themselves in order to learn the lesson.
Giving context for the advice you give people, especially your kids, is so important. Hearing "don't do this" doesn't have nearly the impact of, "I did this and these were the consequences and these were the lessons I learned and this is why I wouldn't recommend going down that path, even though it looks attractive."
Exactly. Hiding your past mistakes from your kids is just helping them to make the same mistakes themselves. My mom was a bit of a rebel as a teenager and got into drugs for a little while before finding faith. While she wasn’t exactly keen to tell detailed stories about those days, she didn’t hide it either, and used those experiences to teach me and my siblings about how dangerous that stuff could be.
I was the "shotgun" baby, and I was hated, resented, neglected and abused for it. My parents *never* accepted responsibility for their poor choices, dishonesty and laziness, and instead they blamed me. It was bad enough that SW were involved. My Grandmother & Aunt raised me to make up for my loser, selfish parents. My best friend was also a "shotgun" baby who was blamed as well. Their hypocrisy, hatred, selfishness and bigotry was revealed. They were revealed as monsters and they knew it. And they deserved blame. They never apologised. I hope they burn in h*ll. That's what taught me, I had kids by choice, and I NEVER blamed children for my choices. People who do are monsters.
To be fair to pierce Brosnan he was well aware of the fact that he can't carry a tune to save his life but he said f*ck it and went all in anyway, kudos for that. But yeah he doesn't sound great. :)
I. . .actually kind of enjoy the imperfection of his voice. Lets be real, most of the planet can't even carry tune, and while his voice sounded rough. . . I don't think he sounded awful. I had a pretty solid choral background for a good chunk of my life, if an unprofessional one. It could be much, much worse.
as someone who was always wary of men since childhood, watching sophie's scene with her 3 "dads" on the boat was so pure for me. I watched that when I was a kid and I remember liking that they were so caring towards her with no ulterior motives
I watched this movie for the 1st time with my mother-in-law last year & I remember cringing when she was about to get on the boat because a scene like that is never ever done in a way that respects women. I was blown away when the men weren't creepy or treated her as inferior or like a child. It is a beautiful thing to see.
@@brighidmcmullen9577 I agree, maybe it's weird but I get a little emotional just remembering it. It's a scene with just four humans having fun and bonding with each other
@witcherye it's not weird at all. It just shows how sad & screwed up our society is that something as simple as men treating a woman decently stands out and has this effect on us.
@@brighidmcmullen9577 Yes! That's one of my favourite things about this movie. All three of her dad's absolute pure love for her. I also love how it ends with her choosing not to find out which dad is actually her biological one.
You know, my ex used to go on and on about how Nickelback isn't a good band, yet he would listen to it with me and enjoy it. I eventually got sick of it and told him to stop critiquing and just listen to the darn music, and leave it to an art historian to decide if we were on the wrong side of history or not. You can't help what you like or don't like. And Mamma Mia! was clearly designed to hit emotional beats that touch women's hearts deeply through music, movement, and love, so is it really that bad? And if it is, can't I just enjoy my favorite actors playing dress up and singing karaoke badly on stage?
Tbh I don't think it would have worked if it all was autotuned and pitch corrected into oblivion and body doubled by perfect dancers. This feels like real people letting loose and feel their feelings. That's why no matter how often you watch it, it resonates. On an unrelated note: will you give me away? - yeah. I wanted to cry anyway right now 😅
This was a movie made by people just having a blast. No one is pretending they're a great singer or dancer. Period. This was all made possible because ABBA music is just so absolutely great. I would have been happy had they tried to "shoe horn" even more songs into it.
You're not the only one. When this film first came out, it was the first time I'd heard that particular song and I was watching it with my mum at the cinema. We were both in floods, as was pretty much everyone else in the cinema. A year later, I was a mum. I'm at the point where it makes me both think of my child and how my mum has felt about me through the year, so double the tears every time. It's such a beautiful song.
The idea of this film where Sophie makes every wrong decision at every turn and still ending up with the best possible outcome has such a nice warm feeling to it
I actually like that not all actors in this movie are great singers. They all sound decent enough and it makes them more relatable to me. Maybe because it reminds me of my mom. She is awful at hitting notes, lost every game of SingStar or karaoke we ever played, but she would sing with so much joy and fun that it didn't matter that she was off. Having great singers in a musical is wonderful but it can also be great to have "normal" singers.
So true though. The world is not populated with people who can even carry a tune. A little rough around the edge vocals isn't bad. I wouldn't even say anyone here has a particularly grating voice. But then, I enjoy a lot of FILK music, very little of which is done by professional singers, you get used to rough edges and not quite tuned pitches.
I lied for my first 2 jobs that I had more experience that I actually did. They hired me, and then I spent tens of weekends catching up and stressing to hide my lie. It was traumatizing for me. Now I am happy to honestly say when I don't know.
The sad part is that sometimes that's the only way to get hired 😞 It sucks this happened to you. Hopefully you're in a place where you never need to do that again.
I've got to say, my dad was incredibly honest with me about all of the dumb, reckless and oftentimes illegal things he did before I was born, and all it did was convince me to learn from his experiences and respect his honesty. It was nice being able to trust the man from day one.
@@crystalward1444is it the part where Donna meets Harry first in Paris? The diary in 1 mentioned that Harry went by the island implying that Donna already knew him. That part wasn't in the movie but Harry did go after her to the island but we only saw him missing the boat. The diary still stands.
@@TheicMoggy yeah and the fact that donna's mother is suddenly alive? idk at least in the 1st movie it was implied she died "somebody up there has in it for me. I bet it's mother". i love the sequel nonetheless
The whole film feels like celebration for me. Celebration of love, friendship, parenthood and life in general. And this film has genius music at the core of it. I don't care about any flaws because it brings me so my joy every time I watch.
Let's not forget that this is a movie adaptation of a stage musical that strung a bunch of essentially unrelated existing songs into a story - that it's only a little incoherent is kind of a miracle.
The flashback scenes in "Here We Go Again" are a great display of Donna's huge insecurity in relationships, which, pretty clearly, come from her mother's emotional neglect. Rather than sitting down and calmly letting Sam explain his family life and expectations back home, she runs him off, turning on him in such a quick, dramatic way. Watching that bit, I remember having the vibe of her thoughts as being, "I KNEW he was too good to be true! He doesn't care! He's just like my mother!' Sam had his own insecurities back then, too. All he had to do was stay on that island and fight for Donna. He could've ignored what that old lady said, defiantly sat down at the table, and waited for her to return from the boat trip. He could've even told Rosie and Tanya who he was, along with his side of the story. They could've helped him better explain things to her. Instead, his low self-esteem caused him to panic and leave. It cost them both so much, down the road. He could been holding Donna's hand during labor, promising to raise the baby, whether she was actually his or not. They might've gotten married much earlier, and/or given Sophie siblings. All that potential was thrown away, because of fear. I feel like this would be a great basis for another video. (5/14/2024)
Four years ago I very suddenly lost my best friend who was basically my sister growing up. I got a phone call and she was just gone. She was 20 years old. This movie was always one that we watched together growing up and she basically styled herself after the character Sophie, from her hair to her clothes, everything. I haven’t been able to watch any part of this movie for all that time without bursting into tears and having to shut it off or walk away. Today was the first time that I’ve been able to see any clips of Mamma Mia without having that reaction and just be able to enjoy this stupidly good movie with your guys’ commentary. ❤ (And thank god you didn’t play any Dancing Queen audio or I would be a mess right now!😅)
Yeah. Alan needs to avoid the sequel unless he's in need of...of...of...well, I don't know! That thing threw continuity out the window...tied to a rock, which plunged deep into the Adriatic.
Sorry but I was surprised that there a lot of people who think this movie is bad. I was really confused I always thought it was good and loved watching with my mom and my sister. We have watched it a few times together now I feel like it’s time to watch it again. In fact I have friends who loved this movie a lot and like it because they spend time with their sisters, friends and moms. Maybe is too much of a silly “chick flick” but no I don’t think this movie is bad. It’s a ton of fun it has lots of heart, they have good dialogues. If it’s just bad because it’s just a bit long or because elf too many secrets then this movie is not for you. It doesn’t mean is a horrible or shitty movie. Now Madam Web and remake of fantastic 4 , those movies are just crap 😂
@@kay-jay1581 I think men are especially quick to label anything women orientated 'bad' especially when it's made for fun or entertainment. You rarely see CT so quick to constantly say "this film is bad!" in other videos even with relatively 'junky' films, so it's sad they're doing it here imo. Like, we already know this isn't deep or high art, there's no need to keep repeating that. The point is the movie was made to be fun and enjoyable, and it does exactly what it aimed to do, there's no necessity to keep going "it's bad tho!" between any praise it's given.
I love this movie, and I have to admit my favourite moment is when James Bond starts singing an ABBA song. The first time Pierce Brosnan turned around and started singing SOS, I burst out in laughter. It's just so surreal. I think he was the perfect choice for this role, and I actually love his singing.
I think you can tell his put his all into it. No, it isn't perfect. . .I also don't think it had to be. Most people can't carry a tune and can still scrap by sounding decent.
You NEED to watch the second one. Make it about a comparison of relationships or dealing with grief. Im a huge mamma mia fan and this has made me really happy. Thank you and hugs from Spain ❤
10:29 Not to pour gasoline on the fire, but "You gotta get som of that Skar up in your gard" gets so much funnier in Swedish because "Gård" can literally mean yard or... backyard. 😆
The greatest lesson in family communication this film taught me was, who is getting what for each other at Christmas? That's how we ended up with four copies of this on dvd in the house one year.
I really think their soundtrack. Also the fathers in this movie were so good. I loved that they all wanted to take responsibility and in the end still stood by her even if they dont truly know who the father is
This was posted right after my closing night of the musical! Me and my cast loved analyzing the psychology of the characters while they played them, and now I get to watch the Internet Dads do the same. It’s like the cherry on top!
My god do I love this movie! My mom and I love this movie and we cry all the time watching this movie because we didn’t use to really bond over movie’s until we watched this movie. We both cried and ended up bonding over this movie. Watched the sequel too and everything. Movies has always been a big deal to my family because we love to watch them together. Have that moment with my mom is something I will always cherish!! ❤❤❤
Never seen this film. I read the plot on wikipedia and was constantly thinking "What?" "Why?" and "That makes no sense!" But I guess when you let good actors go ham and have a good time then it all works out XD
"Bad movie, curiously enjoyable" is a good summary. And yes, it's probably the "all those very good actors seem to be having a blast"-thing that makes this movie fun. I
This film will forever be one of my favourites. I used to watch it with my mom, now that she's dead this film makes me cry but I still love it craziness and all.
I’m not going to step forward and say, “You’re wrong; this is a good movie,” but I am going to say, “Hey guys, maybe this movie wasn’t made for you.” This movie was absolutely made for people like my mom and I, who always listened to ABBA on family road trips, who watched the stage musical together, and who then a few years later watched this movie together. We both loved it. So shhh. 🙂
They both said they enjoyed the movie - that it was fun, with a stellar cast! That doesn't mean that it's a *good* movie, as in well made, plotted, etc. Lots of people love Thomas Kinkade paintings, but that doesn't make them good art...
This film was my safe place throughout my childhood and youth. For a while I watched this film several times a month. Whenever I was sad and afraid I watched Mamma, Mia and I always felt a little better afterwards. Mainly because of the music. That's why now as an adult I don't care that it's not very good and I still watch it at least once a year. It just makes me happy.🎉
My equivalent to Jono's accountability kink is a communication kink. I know it's done for drama, but holy fricking hell, does it get under my skin if it goes on for too long 😂. If I'm into someone, and then I have to start dragging information from them, I'll quickly lose interest 😅. Also... let Jono siiiiiiing! 🕺
Can you make a video on human endurance displayed in Society of the Snow? I feel like the film unapologetically shows us the most grotesque side of survival while also dabbling in conversation of the human condition. It's such a beautiful film, I've been obsessed
I second this and mean this in fondness, but lord was it a whiplash to be tipsilly watching a happy recap of Mama Mia and then see someone mention Society of the Snow, lmao
Not me absolutely dyyyying at the faint off screen 'oh nooo' from Jono at 'its a Stellan experience' 😂😂😂 404 Jono not found 😂😂 outdone yourselves. I'm cry laughing
I love Mamma Mia so much, I’m not the first to say this but watching it as a Daughter always makes me think of my Mother. Slipping Through my Fingers as a song, aswell as Sophie asking Donna to give her away never fails to make me cry despite the lack of context. This movie is just so deeply emotional about the trials Mother’s face and that relationship between a Mother and their Daughter I love it
15:45 All I can think of is the "drive by fruiting" scene from Mrs Doubtfire where Robin Williams nails Pierce Brosnan in the back of the head with a lime lol
If we're digging into modern musicals, may I suggest "Repo! The Genetic Opera" for all sorts of family dynamics? Nathan (Anthony Stewart Head) protecting his daughter from his secret life as a corporate assassin and keeping her locked away and Rotti Largo (Paul Sorvino) regretting spoiling his kids are a great basis for 2 entirely separate episodes. I bet you could even get Terrance Zdunich on to talk about creating it. The biggest issue would be censoring all the blood... Because there's a lot... But Joan Jett shows up to play guitar for the rebellious teenage girl song! And Sarah Brightman is fantastic! It's campy. It's got great family therapy moments. It's got *amazing* songs. And the story itself is actually opera-worthy.
Please do the marriage in Mr. and Mrs. Smith! That whole movie is an allegory for marriage, the first fight they destroy their house and ending fight is in a home improvement store. There's so much symbolism to unpack both therapy wise and film wise.
This movie has so much heart in it, and is so unashamedly feel-goody and silly, and the cast just really goes for it. I love everything about it and always cry and laugh as I watch it (also: Sophie's dress is absolutely beautiful!)
@@Linnellen ehhh I don't know. They were hated on really hard for their treatment of Jennifer Connelly's character in the Labrynth. I don't know how well they would do with four teenage girls
@@Linnellen ehhh I don't know. They were hated on really hard for their treatment of Jennifer Connelly's character in the Labrynth. I don't know how well they would do with four teenage girls
I need a breakdown from you guys on how this movie can simultaneously be crap but also be super enjoyable and have emotionally deep characters. The math isn't mathing here! Joy just radiates from everyone in this movie, and it will always be a comfort movie, so I'm definitely biased here, but I just need to know why you call it bad when it has all these great components going for it
My family has a lot of issues with lying, but it comes from abusive/traumatic pasts that also have a lot of shame attached to them. It’s one of the reasons I have to keep distant from a good chunk of my family now, and also the main reason why lying is a huge deal in my book. Even if someone has a really good reason to lie (and sometimes those reasons do exist), I have a hard time reconciling it. But CinemaTherapy is right. Most of the time, telling the truth is way less frightening than someone finding out you lied to them.
That moment when she asks her mom to give her away made me cry out of nowhere. Like, right at this moment. I've never seen this movie all the way through, never seen that scene before. Instant tears
Mamma Mia is literally one of my favourite movies. I know it's dumb, but absolutely love it. The plot is easy to follow, the actors are great, the music is amazing and it actually manages to get me through a range of emotions. You should also watch the second movie.
Okay, so here’s my Mamma Mia! story. 😂 Went and saw this in theatre with friends from acting camp 😂 and we had a blast literally dancing around the aisles because we had the theatre almost entirely to ourselves. Jump forward a year later, I found out my dad isn’t my biological father and my mom is like, “Not sure who is but here’s the roster,” and my friends immediately were like, “OMG it’s like Mamma Mia!” Minus, of course, Greece, musical numbers, and Meryl Streep (although a friend does bear a striking resemblance to her). So yeah. Always a fun film to watch and a group of us always have a giggle about my own Mamma Mia! drama. 😂
If you want to see Colin Firth playing "uptight British man," may I recommend The King's Speech? It's excellent, and I think it would fit in perfectly with the aims of CT.
the "slipping through my fingers" scene always gets me emotional, without fail. this is a movie that i've watched with my mom a hundred times, and we always get choked up and snuggle into each other when that scene comes around. my mom is my hero. she was a young mom who got pregnant by accident, and although i have always had a relationship with my dad he has never even come close to doing for me what my mom has. she was a single, working mother and i admire her so much for all her tenacity. the fact that she chose to keep me and raise me into the person i am now makes me feel endlessly blessed, and i can only guess at what she's feeling when i see the tears roll down her cheeks as we hear donna's voice crack as she sings to her daughter. love you mom
I still can't listen to "slipping trough my fingers" without bawling my eyes out. I went to the musical with my mom. When this song was on, I cried so much. She held my hand and I don't know if she knows why. Thanks to past trauma she has a good but difficult relationship with me. We love each other, but are very alike with some difficult personalities and handling relationships, project like crazy on each other and want to be understood by the other. I really really love my mum, and now that I live apart our relationship has improved massively. But I can't help feeling I missed her in my childhood. I know it's not her fault. But I missed her so much.
I feel your sentiments about the film exactly. I see it like cinima junk food. I know it’s bad and I’m certainly not going to watch it everyday, but when I feel down and want something light and dumb to watch by god does it hit the spot. “Bad but really enjoyable” is the perfect way to describe this movie.
I know this movie is not perfect, but I feel like it was one of the first portrayals of the mother/daughter relationship I saw on cinema and, although I identify as non binary now, me and my mom have fond memories with it. I can’t help but cry in the “slipping through my fingers” scene, because I do feel like mothers and daughters we fear for one another and each other at the same time. It’s hard to describe but at the end of the day we try our best and I think Mamma Mia shows it well. Donna and Sophie love each other so much even with the complications and the lies they are what the other has. And I do think this is what makes this silly little musical so beautiful and so loved.
We did the play my Freshman year of highschool, and while this story has nothing to do with the movie or the advice given, I just wanted to talk about what stuck with me. We spent weeks getting our set, lines, and choreography down, our main lead playing Donna worked the hardest. She changed the whole dance during money money money and went all out, only to get a little applause. It was disappointing for her, but what made it rememberable was at the end when our Sam proposed to her and the entire audience lost their minds, people were jumping and screaming, all because the guy got on one knee. By itself it was a really fun, cool moment to witness, but whenever I think about our Donna lead I feel bad about it. Idk, just wanted to ramble, have a lovely day everyone!
Kinda cheesy but your guys videos have been a huge help during an extremely tough time for me. I've heard some hard truths that I needed to hear to start healing. Thank you so much for what you do!
I love how Sophie is angry on her mom's behalf when Donna shares that her own mother told her to never come back home. And how vulnerable Donna is when she asks Sophie if she can forgive her for being 'promiscuous' and not knowing who her bio dad is, because when it happened at the time she was not forgiven by her loved one.
I fell in love with this movie when it came out. I asked for the DVD for my birthday and watched it so many times over the years. I fell in love with Amanda Seyfried even more since Mean Girls and I fell in love with musicals even more as well. And this movie was my introduction to Meryl Streep 🥰
this movie is so dear to me because since i was 10 we used to watch it with my mom, her sister and their mom for our "girls' night", they drank wine and aperol and we all sang the songs, we know the movie by heart and to this day use quotes from it xD
I love this movie! And maybe I am tone-deaf, but I never thought that Piers Brosnan's singing was that awful... I guess I was just too busy vibing to the songs. 😅 Speaking of Piers Brosnan... I always thought he was Sophie's dad, so I was shocked when, many years later, I have read an interviev with some creators and they confirmed that Sophie's dad was Bill. 🤯
This movie is such a blast! Even if the storylines are a bit far-fetched (in real life, they could've done DNA tests, to find out who the father was), it's great fun! Also, no one has any evil or malicious intentions. They only deceive each other to protect each other, as Jonathan was saying, even if it wasn't the right thing to do. But Sophie loves Donna so much, that she forgives her for her mistakes, and Donna loves her so much, that she doesn't regret any of them. And the three fathers aren't even jealous of each other; there's no "Well, Donna was my girl first!" backlash. Instead, they bond with each other, and with Sophie. Plus, Sophie and Skye finally realize that they were too young to get married, anyway, and decided to live their lives. It's a such a great watch.
I've been thinking about a different video lately, and I like how it connects with this episode of Cinema Therapy. The other video mentioned that usually movies with female protagonists center the unique female experience in a patriachal system. DESPITE EVERYTHING, she became a lawyer. DESPITE EVERYTHING, she became independent. DESPITE EVERYTHING bla bla. It kind of aleniates "the female experience" from "male experience", which portrays "human experience". Men's stories are not just reduced to their gender compared to women's stories in movies. So what I like about Mamma Mia is that this is a human story. It's not about them resisting patriarchy and being strong women, they simply are humans who have a story. They can be silly, they can be deep, they can be anything. And that just simply has something very refreshing and personal to it that I appreciate a lot. Now, I still love movies like Hidden Figures, but there simply is a difference in the vibe I get from them.
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My Three Dads: James Bond, Mr. Darcy, and Bootstrap Bill Turner. 😂
And Baron Harkonnen 😂
Haha, I love that they even throw in a 007 joke, with Harry saying "Bright, Harry Bright", with a former James Bond standing right next to him.
@darkecofreak Stellan also played Commander Richter, head of the Swiss guard, in "Angels and Demons". Piers did a great job as Chiron in the first "Percy Jackson movie". And who can forget "Love, Actually", am I right? (5/14/2024)
Not to ruin your thunder but this is clearly Thomas Crown, Galahad and Dr Erik Selvig
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Fun Fact about this film a lot of the 'extra's who you see dancing are actually locals who live on the Island and asked if they could join in. The people on the docks dancing were all locals living on the island originally not intended to be in the film!
Rainbow story time 🌈
Oh my god I love this! One of the best things about this film is how everyone there looks like they're having so much fun, so it's even better to know the locals were purely there for the party haha
Neat, it really adds to the fun and inclusivity of the entire film, and the joy is really infectious!
That is a cool tidibit. Kinda impressive that the direction accepted and instructed them well enough for the movie.
Bet this movie has a special place in everyone's heart there.
The man on the ship playing the piano in "Dancing Queen" is also one of the two mens from ABBA
Calling this movie “a drunken karaoke party with A-list actors” is hands downs the BEST and most accurate description of this movie I’ve ever heard! 😂🙌🏻
I have never heard such a more accurate description of it. And I love how Alan flat out says this movie sucks but it is so enjoyable to watch.
It makes sense cus all of the actors were infact drunk doing this movie
Caling This Movie "a Drunken Karaoke
Part With A-list Actors"is Hands Downs The BEST and Most
Calling This Movie "A Drunken Karaoke
There's something about this first Mamma Mia movie that just RADIATES joy to me. The deep, loving bonds between friends, the way Sophie spends the whole movie trying to connect with her father but ends with recognizing all her mother's efforts and honoring her instead, it's just all so FUN! It certainly helps that everyone apparently had a blast filming this movie and getting drunk on a beautiful Greek island lmao
Seconded, it's the perfect movie to watch with your mum. Sophie and Donna's bond is the highlight of these movies, and Amanda and Meryl really convince as a daughter and mother.
It works because the 6 older actors of the main cast are just having a blast. I mean logically doesn't work because the age gap between mother and daughter is actually 20 years too much :) The musical is wonderful as well and well... flipper dance.
@@lusalma5404 I'd always thought Donna had aged quite a lot from 1979 (Mamma Mia Here We Go Again) and, I presume, 1999, or thereabouts, since Mamma Mia is set 20 years after she had her dot dot dot :)
@@arokh72 and everything makes even less sense with the sequel :) But it is a fun rompy pick up your mood movie and musical.
@@lusalma5404hey that’s just what happens when you get too much sun living on a Greek island 😂
I read that when Pierce Brosnan signed onto this film he had no idea what it was, only that it would be filmed in Greece and Meryl Streep was in it.
And honestly, that’s all I would need too
Which is exactly how I would choose roles if I was an actor 😂 what are you gonna do!? Say no to Meryl in Greece?! I think not
I would sign up to play a horse manure cleaner if I had the chance to do a project with Meryl Streep in Greece.
l Read That When Piercs Brosnan Signed
Which Is Exactly How I Would Chllsr Roles If I Was Actor 😂 Ehat are
Responding to the critics who panned Pierce Brosnan's voice, he replied (something to the effect) "But we all had SO MUCH FUN!"
What a great response to the trolls!
Pierce Brosnan is such a lovable and cool guy.
Brosnan apparently knew he couldn't sing & thought it was a bad idea, but they really wanted him, so he got voice lessons, & despite being terrified, he gave it everything he had.
@@sunflower17k I might be the only one who actually think he can sing. But it's very "This is how James Bond would sing with too much alcohol and smoking".
I actually kinda unironically love his bad singing 😂 it's not great but it has character
I saw this in theaters with my mom because we saw the US Tour when I was younger (I had to comfort my mom during “Slipping Through My Fingers” and then once I was older and able to appreciate our relationship we held hands and cried through the song) and I will NEVER forget the audible groans EVERYTIME Pierce Brosnan opened up her mouth to sing 😂😂😂
This musical/film is the perfect example of mindless, fluffy camp with a few poignant moments. You don’t tune in to model relationships/acts, you just tune in to have fun…
One of my mom’s fave bits of the musical was when the trio of men join in with the crazy disco outfits and when they appeared on screen at the end, she out loud said, “OMG LOOK AT THEM!” And the whole theater erupted in renewed laughter and applause…
"You know what I love about Meryl Streep?"
"Everything?"
That's absolutely right. Good on you, Alan.
This is a correct statement.
My dad was obsessed with this movie, we watched it together million times. Mum was always saying 'why you keep watching this crap, this movie is not good' and never watched it with us.
My father died. Few months later, for Christmas, here we go again was on TV for the first time. We watched it together with my mum and she said 'oh dad would watch it if he was with us'. ❤️❤️
My condolences, your father will always be with you, and you'll always have this film as part of your memories with him, to treasure forever. 💖
Oh the scene before the baptism must have been very tearful for you 🫂🫂♥️
This was one of my mom’s favorite movies, and I could never stand it. She passed away in October, and this one, and the sequel both made me sob and miss her, but it reminded me of her light and joy in the music she loved.
That’s so wholesome
I liked how nobody judged Donna for her wild past, not even Sophie. The Mother/Daughter relationship was always the best part of these movies.
Good point. She was rightly judged for being a liar but there really wasn't any slur shaming going on.
I know
"Her wild past." Yes, how dare a woman in her early twenties have sex with three different men over the course of a wild summer in the late 70's/early 80's.
I'm just saying, Donna's past isn't all that wild by today's standards.
Yeeees absolutely, they are the heart of the movie. My mom always cries when we see the slipping through my fingers scene. We always have a moment together, and it's so emotional
@@aaroneinhorn5529 that’s true
I can’t believe they skipped “Slipping through my Fingers” I was so looking forward to seeing Alan cry.
They wanted to keep with the dishonesty theme, but I wished they had kept it in as well.
Yeah! I was hoping the episode would be more about the themes of family/growing up, ageing, pressure on women to marry, and the mother and daughter relationship of the film because that scene is so beautiful.
@sophie1564 yeah missed opportunity on their part. Instead it's another poop on a movie that people enjoy. Very annoyed.
@@oblivionangel13 Yeah, I was surprised they didn't show more empathy for Donna. I was expecting them to go a little more deeply into the reasons why she was 'lying' to Sophie. I think Jono and Allan are totally allowed to dislike movies they review but when they don't give proper/balanced reviews and just eviscerate the characters it really annoys me. Particularly when it's a movie that many women love and connect with (like Mamma Mia and Labyrinth). I feel like they should have brought in female guests for these episodes like they have in the past.
Yessss...I absolutely adore that whole sequence.
Honestly I don't know why ABBA had such specific songs but I'm glad they did.(also I'm glad all these a-list drama actors got to do something fun and campy)
Because ABBA was two married couples who wrote about their own experiences? 😂
I mean they wrote the musical based off the songs
Exactly, I wondered why they didn't choose songs with lyrics that got along with the story. They had plenty to pick up from!
@@LiekkeenValve And then they hated being a band.
@@Maribelinda63 BESTIE WHAT DO YOU MEAN? Literally the movie is an adaptation of a musical that was written SPECIFICALLY around these songs. The story was written FOR these songs (apologies if you feel attacked, tone over youtube comments never translates)
I think it's genius how they created a context story for all these different songs. They aren't just one song after another in this, these lyrics contain plot now.
Well originally it’s a broadway musical
@@ultimatebishoujo29the musical was written by the two male members of the band.
I mean, they very much changed many of the lyrics to fit the story.
@@gracehowell.some of the lyrics, not all.
The energy they had on film was a direct translation of the environment on set. They had an absolute blast filming this and you can tell. It’s legendary. There are photos from their wrap party on location and it didn’t even seem like they had stopped filming.
A question this episode raises but doesn't address is "What is a 'good movie'?". If the purpose of Mamma Mia is to entertain, and the movie does, does it matter that the plot is Shakespeare grade, and the actors can't sing, but pour their heart into the performance anyway?
I wish more people had this view. There's this incessant need to "critical analyze" everything, and so often that just misses the point. Trying to paint art as, essentially, "objectively" good or bad is just weird.
I was going on about that: if the movie did its job, it was charming, entertaining, and the actors were enjoying themselves without phoning it in (I'd argue even Brosnan wasn't phoning it in he just really needs some singing lessons), why is it "bad"?
Literally the part that irritated me in this video and all the other movie critiques who analyse movie. If the movie's job was to entertain u and it has done the job. Then it's a pretty great movie. That's it
I mean, being able to capture the whole silly energy and feel-good sunny-ness everyone seems to have had on this amazing set is probabaly not that easy. Yes, the story isn't super deep, yes, most of the budget probably went into the song licences and a-list actors, but they made it work. I have watched so many "better" movies that don't make me feel half as much as this one, and I think making the viewer actually feel things is the most difficult part. This movie has done that exceedingly well, so I don't care if these emotions are just "fluffy sunshine" instead of "deeply thought provoking abd existential", this movie has pulled off that magic trick, and that makes it one if the best movies I've watched.
With perhaps one exception, I usually dislike musicals. I am grateful for Allan and Jono for covering this movie because I probably never would have known much about it otherwise.
My parents never kept it a secret from us that our oldest sister was an accident that lead to their shotgun wedding. Because of that, myself and all my siblings were very careful with relationships, didn't start actually dating until we were adults, and had very few relationships before finding our permanent partners. Being honest with your kids is so important. Letting them learn from your mistakes allows them to skip having to make the same mistake themselves in order to learn the lesson.
Giving context for the advice you give people, especially your kids, is so important. Hearing "don't do this" doesn't have nearly the impact of, "I did this and these were the consequences and these were the lessons I learned and this is why I wouldn't recommend going down that path, even though it looks attractive."
Agreed 100%
as my dad is fond of saying, "life's too short to make all the mistakes yourself"
Exactly. Hiding your past mistakes from your kids is just helping them to make the same mistakes themselves. My mom was a bit of a rebel as a teenager and got into drugs for a little while before finding faith. While she wasn’t exactly keen to tell detailed stories about those days, she didn’t hide it either, and used those experiences to teach me and my siblings about how dangerous that stuff could be.
I was the "shotgun" baby, and I was hated, resented, neglected and abused for it.
My parents *never* accepted responsibility for their poor choices, dishonesty and laziness, and instead they blamed me.
It was bad enough that SW were involved. My Grandmother & Aunt raised me to make up for my loser, selfish parents.
My best friend was also a "shotgun" baby who was blamed as well.
Their hypocrisy, hatred, selfishness and bigotry was revealed. They were revealed as monsters and they knew it.
And they deserved blame.
They never apologised.
I hope they burn in h*ll.
That's what taught me, I had kids by choice, and I NEVER blamed children for my choices.
People who do are monsters.
Also, Christine Baranski is CRIMINALLY underrated always, but in this movie particularly. She and Julie Walters make it.
Christine Baranski is a *treasure.* 🥰 Everything she's in, she absolutely owns.
Especially in the second one!!
To be fair to pierce Brosnan he was well aware of the fact that he can't carry a tune to save his life but he said f*ck it and went all in anyway, kudos for that. But yeah he doesn't sound great. :)
Frankly I can respect that.
I. . .actually kind of enjoy the imperfection of his voice. Lets be real, most of the planet can't even carry tune, and while his voice sounded rough. . . I don't think he sounded awful. I had a pretty solid choral background for a good chunk of my life, if an unprofessional one. It could be much, much worse.
But...OMG he looks sooo good!♥️♥️♥️
I commend him because he put his all into the performance though
Not being able to carry a tune is after all a karaoke staple
as someone who was always wary of men since childhood, watching sophie's scene with her 3 "dads" on the boat was so pure for me. I watched that when I was a kid and I remember liking that they were so caring towards her with no ulterior motives
I watched this movie for the 1st time with my mother-in-law last year & I remember cringing when she was about to get on the boat because a scene like that is never ever done in a way that respects women. I was blown away when the men weren't creepy or treated her as inferior or like a child. It is a beautiful thing to see.
@@brighidmcmullen9577 I agree, maybe it's weird but I get a little emotional just remembering it. It's a scene with just four humans having fun and bonding with each other
@witcherye it's not weird at all. It just shows how sad & screwed up our society is that something as simple as men treating a woman decently stands out and has this effect on us.
@@brighidmcmullen9577 Yes! That's one of my favourite things about this movie. All three of her dad's absolute pure love for her. I also love how it ends with her choosing not to find out which dad is actually her biological one.
@@brighidmcmullen9577amen. that's why sweet simple good representation of wholesome interactions is so important.
"pitch please ✨" I'm dying 💀
You know, my ex used to go on and on about how Nickelback isn't a good band, yet he would listen to it with me and enjoy it. I eventually got sick of it and told him to stop critiquing and just listen to the darn music, and leave it to an art historian to decide if we were on the wrong side of history or not. You can't help what you like or don't like. And Mamma Mia! was clearly designed to hit emotional beats that touch women's hearts deeply through music, movement, and love, so is it really that bad? And if it is, can't I just enjoy my favorite actors playing dress up and singing karaoke badly on stage?
Tbh I don't think it would have worked if it all was autotuned and pitch corrected into oblivion and body doubled by perfect dancers. This feels like real people letting loose and feel their feelings. That's why no matter how often you watch it, it resonates. On an unrelated note: will you give me away? - yeah. I wanted to cry anyway right now 😅
Period . Say it louder 🤌
I don’t know why Nickleback gets such a bad rap!
This was a movie made by people just having a blast. No one is pretending they're a great singer or dancer. Period. This was all made possible because ABBA music is just so absolutely great. I would have been happy had they tried to "shoe horn" even more songs into it.
"This is bad. I love it" my favorite genre of movie!
If I'm having a bad day, I watch the "Lay All Your Love On Me" scene and feel better.
I can understand that
That scene is Peak Cinema, and Alan can fist fight me about it.
The dancing guys on the dock is the best part of that whole song
Super sexy scene
When faced with heavy duty house cleaning... it's the entire film! Dancing and dusting
The way Jono just NOPED out of his chair had me snorting with laughter 🤭😂
slipping through my fingers makes me cry, EVERY. TIME.
I started tearing up as soon as the first note hit. Gotta admit I was mildly annoyed at the way this video blue-tearglanded me.
You're not the only one. When this film first came out, it was the first time I'd heard that particular song and I was watching it with my mum at the cinema. We were both in floods, as was pretty much everyone else in the cinema. A year later, I was a mum. I'm at the point where it makes me both think of my child and how my mum has felt about me through the year, so double the tears every time. It's such a beautiful song.
The passion in this movie is incredible, everyone is clearly giving 130% and struggling not to laugh outside of intended moments
The idea of this film where Sophie makes every wrong decision at every turn and still ending up with the best possible outcome has such a nice warm feeling to it
I actually like that not all actors in this movie are great singers. They all sound decent enough and it makes them more relatable to me. Maybe because it reminds me of my mom. She is awful at hitting notes, lost every game of SingStar or karaoke we ever played, but she would sing with so much joy and fun that it didn't matter that she was off.
Having great singers in a musical is wonderful but it can also be great to have "normal" singers.
That’s true
So true though. The world is not populated with people who can even carry a tune. A little rough around the edge vocals isn't bad. I wouldn't even say anyone here has a particularly grating voice.
But then, I enjoy a lot of FILK music, very little of which is done by professional singers, you get used to rough edges and not quite tuned pitches.
I lied for my first 2 jobs that I had more experience that I actually did. They hired me, and then I spent tens of weekends catching up and stressing to hide my lie. It was traumatizing for me. Now I am happy to honestly say when I don't know.
The sad part is that sometimes that's the only way to get hired 😞
It sucks this happened to you. Hopefully you're in a place where you never need to do that again.
I've got to say, my dad was incredibly honest with me about all of the dumb, reckless and oftentimes illegal things he did before I was born, and all it did was convince me to learn from his experiences and respect his honesty. It was nice being able to trust the man from day one.
I think it's important to allow yourself to like things, even if other people don't like them. Such as Mama Mia.
Mama Mia and the sequel are such a comfort. During lockdown I watched them on a loop with Will Ferrel’s Eurovision movie and Frozen 2. It kept me sane
The scene in Frozen 2 where Olaf summarizes the events of Frozen cracks me up
Love this selection!!
The sequel has some BAD continuity issues with the first. While Bill's backstory was fun, it's too bad they messed up Harry's so horribly.
@@crystalward1444is it the part where Donna meets Harry first in Paris? The diary in 1 mentioned that Harry went by the island implying that Donna already knew him. That part wasn't in the movie but Harry did go after her to the island but we only saw him missing the boat. The diary still stands.
@@TheicMoggy yeah and the fact that donna's mother is suddenly alive? idk at least in the 1st movie it was implied she died "somebody up there has in it for me. I bet it's mother". i love the sequel nonetheless
Sorry Alan, you can't convince me that this movie is crap, this movie is a masterpiece
The whole film feels like celebration for me. Celebration of love, friendship, parenthood and life in general. And this film has genius music at the core of it. I don't care about any flaws because it brings me so my joy every time I watch.
Let's not forget that this is a movie adaptation of a stage musical that strung a bunch of essentially unrelated existing songs into a story - that it's only a little incoherent is kind of a miracle.
The flashback scenes in "Here We Go Again" are a great display of Donna's huge insecurity in relationships, which, pretty clearly, come from her mother's emotional neglect. Rather than sitting down and calmly letting Sam explain his family life and expectations back home, she runs him off, turning on him in such a quick, dramatic way. Watching that bit, I remember having the vibe of her thoughts as being, "I KNEW he was too good to be true! He doesn't care! He's just like my mother!' Sam had his own insecurities back then, too. All he had to do was stay on that island and fight for Donna. He could've ignored what that old lady said, defiantly sat down at the table, and waited for her to return from the boat trip. He could've even told Rosie and Tanya who he was, along with his side of the story. They could've helped him better explain things to her. Instead, his low self-esteem caused him to panic and leave. It cost them both so much, down the road. He could been holding Donna's hand during labor, promising to raise the baby, whether she was actually his or not. They might've gotten married much earlier, and/or given Sophie siblings. All that potential was thrown away, because of fear. I feel like this would be a great basis for another video. (5/14/2024)
Four years ago I very suddenly lost my best friend who was basically my sister growing up. I got a phone call and she was just gone. She was 20 years old.
This movie was always one that we watched together growing up and she basically styled herself after the character Sophie, from her hair to her clothes, everything. I haven’t been able to watch any part of this movie for all that time without bursting into tears and having to shut it off or walk away.
Today was the first time that I’ve been able to see any clips of Mamma Mia without having that reaction and just be able to enjoy this stupidly good movie with your guys’ commentary. ❤
(And thank god you didn’t play any Dancing Queen audio or I would be a mess right now!😅)
Alan, I don't know any single person who thinks this movie is good. That being said, everyone I know loves this movie with all their heart
Yeah. Alan needs to avoid the sequel unless he's in need of...of...of...well, I don't know! That thing threw continuity out the window...tied to a rock, which plunged deep into the Adriatic.
😔I actually thought is a really good movie lol is my favorite one actually 😂
Sorry but I was surprised that there a lot of people who think this movie is bad. I was really confused I always thought it was good and loved watching with my mom and my sister. We have watched it a few times together now I feel like it’s time to watch it again. In fact I have friends who loved this movie a lot and like it because they spend time with their sisters, friends and moms. Maybe is too much of a silly “chick flick” but no I don’t think this movie is bad. It’s a ton of fun it has lots of heart, they have good dialogues. If it’s just bad because it’s just a bit long or because elf too many secrets then this movie is not for you. It doesn’t mean is a horrible or shitty movie.
Now Madam Web and remake of fantastic 4 , those movies are just crap 😂
@@crystalward1444 Yeah, the second one sucked lol.
@@kay-jay1581 I think men are especially quick to label anything women orientated 'bad' especially when it's made for fun or entertainment. You rarely see CT so quick to constantly say "this film is bad!" in other videos even with relatively 'junky' films, so it's sad they're doing it here imo. Like, we already know this isn't deep or high art, there's no need to keep repeating that. The point is the movie was made to be fun and enjoyable, and it does exactly what it aimed to do, there's no necessity to keep going "it's bad tho!" between any praise it's given.
I’ve had “Take a Chance on Me” stuck in my head on a constant loop for the past month. Thanks for keeping it going Jonno.
That scene “slipping through my fingers” makes me cry every time. 😭
I love this movie, and I have to admit my favourite moment is when James Bond starts singing an ABBA song. The first time Pierce Brosnan turned around and started singing SOS, I burst out in laughter. It's just so surreal. I think he was the perfect choice for this role, and I actually love his singing.
Same I really don’t mind his singing voice. I like how realistic it sounds.
I think you can tell his put his all into it. No, it isn't perfect. . .I also don't think it had to be. Most people can't carry a tune and can still scrap by sounding decent.
If Pierce Brosnan was Pierce Brosnan, and he could sing on top of it, people would hate him. But he can't sing, so we can relate. One of us, Pierce!
@@limecilla7612I mean, that would just be unfair if he could sing 😂
You NEED to watch the second one. Make it about a comparison of relationships or dealing with grief. Im a huge mamma mia fan and this has made me really happy. Thank you and hugs from Spain ❤
Yes 2nd movie please! I'm also dying to know your thoughts on the quality of the relationships, especially on Donna and Sam
This film is basically a warning how awkward things can get if you lie
If this is a warning Liar Liar is one of those anti-drug specials from the 80’s, lacking in any subtlety whatsoever.
@@jbcatz5 ok sure, all I was saying was that this movie is awkward
10:29 Not to pour gasoline on the fire, but "You gotta get som of that Skar up in your gard" gets so much funnier in Swedish because "Gård" can literally mean yard or... backyard. 😆
1:30 they were actually drunk quite a bit filming this movie lol
That explains a lot, actually
@@catdragon2584lol yes
Seemingly, the crew as well. The camera is alllll over the place, lol.
The greatest lesson in family communication this film taught me was, who is getting what for each other at Christmas? That's how we ended up with four copies of this on dvd in the house one year.
OMG same! I think my mum and dad bought a copy, my auntie got us a copy and then my friend got me a copy!
I really think their soundtrack. Also the fathers in this movie were so good. I loved that they all wanted to take responsibility and in the end still stood by her even if they dont truly know who the father is
This was posted right after my closing night of the musical! Me and my cast loved analyzing the psychology of the characters while they played them, and now I get to watch the Internet Dads do the same. It’s like the cherry on top!
My god do I love this movie! My mom and I love this movie and we cry all the time watching this movie because we didn’t use to really bond over movie’s until we watched this movie. We both cried and ended up bonding over this movie. Watched the sequel too and everything. Movies has always been a big deal to my family because we love to watch them together.
Have that moment with my mom is something I will always cherish!! ❤❤❤
That's so sweet. Thanks for sharing and watching!
Never seen this film. I read the plot on wikipedia and was constantly thinking "What?" "Why?" and "That makes no sense!" But I guess when you let good actors go ham and have a good time then it all works out XD
"Bad movie, curiously enjoyable" is a good summary. And yes, it's probably the "all those very good actors seem to be having a blast"-thing that makes this movie fun. I
One word: tsipouro
This film will forever be one of my favourites. I used to watch it with my mom, now that she's dead this film makes me cry but I still love it craziness and all.
I’m not going to step forward and say, “You’re wrong; this is a good movie,” but I am going to say, “Hey guys, maybe this movie wasn’t made for you.”
This movie was absolutely made for people like my mom and I, who always listened to ABBA on family road trips, who watched the stage musical together, and who then a few years later watched this movie together. We both loved it. So shhh. 🙂
They both said they enjoyed the movie - that it was fun, with a stellar cast! That doesn't mean that it's a *good* movie, as in well made, plotted, etc.
Lots of people love Thomas Kinkade paintings, but that doesn't make them good art...
I did a local theater production of Mamma Mia and absolutely LOVED every second of it. Thanks again Cinema Therapy!
This film was my safe place throughout my childhood and youth. For a while I watched this film several times a month. Whenever I was sad and afraid I watched Mamma, Mia and I always felt a little better afterwards. Mainly because of the music. That's why now as an adult I don't care that it's not very good and I still watch it at least once a year. It just makes me happy.🎉
My equivalent to Jono's accountability kink is a communication kink. I know it's done for drama, but holy fricking hell, does it get under my skin if it goes on for too long 😂. If I'm into someone, and then I have to start dragging information from them, I'll quickly lose interest 😅.
Also... let Jono siiiiiiing! 🕺
Can you make a video on human endurance displayed in Society of the Snow? I feel like the film unapologetically shows us the most grotesque side of survival while also dabbling in conversation of the human condition. It's such a beautiful film, I've been obsessed
I second this and mean this in fondness, but lord was it a whiplash to be tipsilly watching a happy recap of Mama Mia and then see someone mention Society of the Snow, lmao
I support this notion!!
Yes! I would absolutely love that!
@@tracer.s LMAOOO I DIDNT EVEN REALISE THATS WHAT I DID. That film has been on my mind these past few days non-stop.
Not me absolutely dyyyying at the faint off screen 'oh nooo' from Jono at 'its a Stellan experience' 😂😂😂 404 Jono not found 😂😂 outdone yourselves. I'm cry laughing
I love Mamma Mia so much, I’m not the first to say this but watching it as a Daughter always makes me think of my Mother. Slipping Through my Fingers as a song, aswell as Sophie asking Donna to give her away never fails to make me cry despite the lack of context. This movie is just so deeply emotional about the trials Mother’s face and that relationship between a Mother and their Daughter I love it
15:45 All I can think of is the "drive by fruiting" scene from Mrs Doubtfire where Robin Williams nails Pierce Brosnan in the back of the head with a lime lol
"run by fruiting"
RIP Robin Williams.
Mamma Mia is one of my favorite junk food movies. It's so fun and infectious.
If we're digging into modern musicals, may I suggest "Repo! The Genetic Opera" for all sorts of family dynamics? Nathan (Anthony Stewart Head) protecting his daughter from his secret life as a corporate assassin and keeping her locked away and Rotti Largo (Paul Sorvino) regretting spoiling his kids are a great basis for 2 entirely separate episodes. I bet you could even get Terrance Zdunich on to talk about creating it.
The biggest issue would be censoring all the blood... Because there's a lot...
But Joan Jett shows up to play guitar for the rebellious teenage girl song! And Sarah Brightman is fantastic!
It's campy. It's got great family therapy moments. It's got *amazing* songs. And the story itself is actually opera-worthy.
I second this!
I third this.
Yes please! I fourth this 🍀
The closest I can get to them talking about relationships in the devil's carnival would be to talk about Repo. Please do this!
I like to tell people that R!TGO is the best worst movie they will ever see but they have to embrace the absolute camp of it
Please do the marriage in Mr. and Mrs. Smith!
That whole movie is an allegory for marriage, the first fight they destroy their house and ending fight is in a home improvement store.
There's so much symbolism to unpack both therapy wise and film wise.
This movie has so much heart in it, and is so unashamedly feel-goody and silly, and the cast just really goes for it. I love everything about it and always cry and laugh as I watch it (also: Sophie's dress is absolutely beautiful!)
Now I need y'all to do Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants...
Yes! 🙌
@@Linnellen ehhh I don't know. They were hated on really hard for their treatment of Jennifer Connelly's character in the Labrynth. I don't know how well they would do with four teenage girls
@@Linnellen ehhh I don't know. They were hated on really hard for their treatment of Jennifer Connelly's character in the Labrynth. I don't know how well they would do with four teenage girls
I love love love that all three dads sound just like regular dads singing, I don't care if they're good because they feel so cute and real
Could you please do a cinema therapy on Moulin Rouge? Also I love your videos, you’re both incredible
I would go feral. Please please
Oh geez I only have one wish in life and it’s this
Same
Johnathan’s sweet singing voice at the end was unexpected and lovely!
I need a breakdown from you guys on how this movie can simultaneously be crap but also be super enjoyable and have emotionally deep characters. The math isn't mathing here! Joy just radiates from everyone in this movie, and it will always be a comfort movie, so I'm definitely biased here, but I just need to know why you call it bad when it has all these great components going for it
My family has a lot of issues with lying, but it comes from abusive/traumatic pasts that also have a lot of shame attached to them. It’s one of the reasons I have to keep distant from a good chunk of my family now, and also the main reason why lying is a huge deal in my book. Even if someone has a really good reason to lie (and sometimes those reasons do exist), I have a hard time reconciling it.
But CinemaTherapy is right. Most of the time, telling the truth is way less frightening than someone finding out you lied to them.
No one can convince me that this movie is not anything short of a masterpiece!! I watch it at least once a year 💃💃💃
Best part of my week is seeing my favorite Internet dads drop a new video 😌
I am today, old, realizing that that’s Mama Weasley! Thank you so much for pointing it out. It just makes me love this movie even more.
She's an icon!!
"You gotta get some Skars up in your gard" DEAD 🤣🤣
That moment when she asks her mom to give her away made me cry out of nowhere. Like, right at this moment. I've never seen this movie all the way through, never seen that scene before. Instant tears
Mamma Mia is literally one of my favourite movies. I know it's dumb, but absolutely love it. The plot is easy to follow, the actors are great, the music is amazing and it actually manages to get me through a range of emotions.
You should also watch the second movie.
"let the truth have its day and let the chips fall where they may."
Adding that to my life motto stash.
Where is this from? Who said this?
Okay, so here’s my Mamma Mia! story. 😂 Went and saw this in theatre with friends from acting camp 😂 and we had a blast literally dancing around the aisles because we had the theatre almost entirely to ourselves. Jump forward a year later, I found out my dad isn’t my biological father and my mom is like, “Not sure who is but here’s the roster,” and my friends immediately were like, “OMG it’s like Mamma Mia!” Minus, of course, Greece, musical numbers, and Meryl Streep (although a friend does bear a striking resemblance to her). So yeah. Always a fun film to watch and a group of us always have a giggle about my own Mamma Mia! drama. 😂
There is NO WAY this video comes out while my senior year play is going on... And it IS Mamma Mia 💀
The description of everyone being told "Make it bigger!" in every scene makes the movie make so much more sense. 🤣
If you want to see Colin Firth playing "uptight British man," may I recommend The King's Speech? It's excellent, and I think it would fit in perfectly with the aims of CT.
the "slipping through my fingers" scene always gets me emotional, without fail. this is a movie that i've watched with my mom a hundred times, and we always get choked up and snuggle into each other when that scene comes around. my mom is my hero. she was a young mom who got pregnant by accident, and although i have always had a relationship with my dad he has never even come close to doing for me what my mom has. she was a single, working mother and i admire her so much for all her tenacity. the fact that she chose to keep me and raise me into the person i am now makes me feel endlessly blessed, and i can only guess at what she's feeling when i see the tears roll down her cheeks as we hear donna's voice crack as she sings to her daughter. love you mom
"This is a bad movie" Alan, we love you, but those are some fighting words. You're pushing the line, Scoob
I still can't listen to "slipping trough my fingers" without bawling my eyes out. I went to the musical with my mom. When this song was on, I cried so much. She held my hand and I don't know if she knows why. Thanks to past trauma she has a good but difficult relationship with me. We love each other, but are very alike with some difficult personalities and handling relationships, project like crazy on each other and want to be understood by the other. I really really love my mum, and now that I live apart our relationship has improved massively. But I can't help feeling I missed her in my childhood. I know it's not her fault. But I missed her so much.
Between the film, Broadway and touring company productions, my mom has seen this more times than I can remember. I’m going to send her this video.
We hope she enjoys it!
omg my two fav things together finally happened 😭 mamma mia and movie dads 💕
And as for your comparison to Chernobyl - both Mama Mia and Chernobyl have the incredible Stellan Skarsgard CRUSHING it.
26:14 😮 The timbre of Jonathan‘s voice is actually really adorable! Let this man sing! 👏
I feel your sentiments about the film exactly. I see it like cinima junk food. I know it’s bad and I’m certainly not going to watch it everyday, but when I feel down and want something light and dumb to watch by god does it hit the spot. “Bad but really enjoyable” is the perfect way to describe this movie.
I know this movie is not perfect, but I feel like it was one of the first portrayals of the mother/daughter relationship I saw on cinema and, although I identify as non binary now, me and my mom have fond memories with it. I can’t help but cry in the “slipping through my fingers” scene, because I do feel like mothers and daughters we fear for one another and each other at the same time. It’s hard to describe but at the end of the day we try our best and I think Mamma Mia shows it well. Donna and Sophie love each other so much even with the complications and the lies they are what the other has. And I do think this is what makes this silly little musical so beautiful and so loved.
We did the play my Freshman year of highschool, and while this story has nothing to do with the movie or the advice given, I just wanted to talk about what stuck with me. We spent weeks getting our set, lines, and choreography down, our main lead playing Donna worked the hardest. She changed the whole dance during money money money and went all out, only to get a little applause. It was disappointing for her, but what made it rememberable was at the end when our Sam proposed to her and the entire audience lost their minds, people were jumping and screaming, all because the guy got on one knee. By itself it was a really fun, cool moment to witness, but whenever I think about our Donna lead I feel bad about it. Idk, just wanted to ramble, have a lovely day everyone!
OMG, Jono is a fellow ABBA fan!!! Thank you for this episode!I love the random ABBA lyrics you sprinkle in!
Yay!!!!
Kinda cheesy but your guys videos have been a huge help during an extremely tough time for me. I've heard some hard truths that I needed to hear to start healing. Thank you so much for what you do!
You're so welcome. Thanks for watching!
I love how Sophie is angry on her mom's behalf when Donna shares that her own mother told her to never come back home. And how vulnerable Donna is when she asks Sophie if she can forgive her for being 'promiscuous' and not knowing who her bio dad is, because when it happened at the time she was not forgiven by her loved one.
I fell in love with this movie when it came out. I asked for the DVD for my birthday and watched it so many times over the years. I fell in love with Amanda Seyfried even more since Mean Girls and I fell in love with musicals even more as well. And this movie was my introduction to Meryl Streep 🥰
this movie is so dear to me because since i was 10 we used to watch it with my mom, her sister and their mom for our "girls' night", they drank wine and aperol and we all sang the songs, we know the movie by heart and to this day use quotes from it xD
I love this movie! And maybe I am tone-deaf, but I never thought that Piers Brosnan's singing was that awful... I guess I was just too busy vibing to the songs. 😅
Speaking of Piers Brosnan... I always thought he was Sophie's dad, so I was shocked when, many years later, I have read an interviev with some creators and they confirmed that Sophie's dad was Bill. 🤯
It's really awful,but so sincere and charming💙
This movie is such a blast! Even if the storylines are a bit far-fetched (in real life, they could've done DNA tests, to find out who the father was), it's great fun! Also, no one has any evil or malicious intentions. They only deceive each other to protect each other, as Jonathan was saying, even if it wasn't the right thing to do. But Sophie loves Donna so much, that she forgives her for her mistakes, and Donna loves her so much, that she doesn't regret any of them. And the three fathers aren't even jealous of each other; there's no "Well, Donna was my girl first!" backlash. Instead, they bond with each other, and with Sophie. Plus, Sophie and Skye finally realize that they were too young to get married, anyway, and decided to live their lives. It's a such a great watch.
I've been thinking about a different video lately, and I like how it connects with this episode of Cinema Therapy. The other video mentioned that usually movies with female protagonists center the unique female experience in a patriachal system. DESPITE EVERYTHING, she became a lawyer. DESPITE EVERYTHING, she became independent. DESPITE EVERYTHING bla bla. It kind of aleniates "the female experience" from "male experience", which portrays "human experience". Men's stories are not just reduced to their gender compared to women's stories in movies.
So what I like about Mamma Mia is that this is a human story. It's not about them resisting patriarchy and being strong women, they simply are humans who have a story. They can be silly, they can be deep, they can be anything. And that just simply has something very refreshing and personal to it that I appreciate a lot.
Now, I still love movies like Hidden Figures, but there simply is a difference in the vibe I get from them.