I HAVENT EVEN WATCHED THIS VIDEO YET AND I CAN TELL BY THE GRILLE ITS THE 3.0R MODEL, AND THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY THE PERFECT CAR, THANKS FOR LISTENING HAVE A GREAT DAY
"I really had some bad issues with my floppy knob but Jim got his hands on it and with his expertise the knob got firm and confident all over again, almost immediately." Noice.
Kudos to you mate, alot of car reviewers aren't willing to talk about floppy knob issues. Even though as car reviewers they almost certainly have loads of experience of floppy knobs
I drive a 2006 USDM LGT, blown it up a million times but im keeping it forever. At this point the bottom half of the motor is pure 2019 STI and the top half is pure Junkyard EJ mystery.
I've owned a 2.5 GT-B wagon for over 5 years now. I purchased it as I wanted rear or all wheel drive and manual transmission in a wagon. The only other choice was a VE SV6.... I love it, but as summed up at the end of the video, if you're not a car nut, don't buy one. My engine was ok, if a bit oil hungry when I pulled it out earlier this year, but it came out because: A) because the clutch needed replacement and it's easier to pull the engine and B) It was leaking coolant and oil in hard to access area's. I then found the engine had a mildly leaky exhaust valve, so now I'm committed to a full rebuild. Did it need it? Probably not, but I wasn't happy with it either. Personally though I've had so many things fail/need repairs, it's too much to list. Interiors are definitely variable and down to how well they've been cared for. 6 vs 4 is definitely a personal preference. I went the turbo 4 as it has much better fuel consumption than the 6 and a heap of punch with a few minor mods. Also the steering feels rubbery because it literally has a rubber coupling on the column shaft. This can be fixed with either a Perrin locking kit or a solid shaft.
Had a Gen 4 Outback 4cyl and boy did I love that thing! Unfortunately it fell victim to the head gasket prob you mentioned and gave it away cheap but I'd so own one again. They were simply amazing over snow which I drove on once a week
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Subaru are a nice alternative. But in the UK they are seen as a small niche make unlike Australia where they are quite popular and mainstream. They are seen as generally reliable here but parts lead times used to be or possibly still are horrendous, you could be waiting 6 months for a part in the UK depending what it is. As Subaru are a small volume manufacturer here, parts stock was not great in the past, and usually sent on the slow boat from Japan, not sure if this improved. Subaru have a rep for rust in the UK too, but the WRX and STi Impreza are legendary here. Especially the Colin MacRae rally era Impreza's, these are highly sought after and cherished by current owners. Most other non cherished examples eventually rotted away or ended with the tits thrashed off them badly modified and wrapped around a tree or lamp post 😂.
I had an 08 Dark blue, H6 B.Spec wagon, Auto (would have loved a manual, but the misses needed the auto) - was an awesome car - no issues at all - of course had to sell to buy a house. would love the opportunity to get another, this time in manual as a weekend fun car.
Was working in a caryard back in the day, and got a chance to give the Liberty GT wagon a go. Even in an auto, 8/10, would still love one. Definitely suited me more than the WRX. Sadly never got a chance to play with the 6 cylinder, but I imagine it would have been a smooth ride without the lag in the turbo.
Hence I bought the 3.6RS 6cyl model over the turbo version. Best thing I like is Instant torque and it runs on 91oct fuel for marginally less performance at half the price to purchase. I own two RS models and prefer the 2017 model with harsher suspension for more road feel. Good to know you weren't so much a fan of the WRX if ya had a choice?
Best model liberty/outback series for sure. 03-08. Owned a 2005 outback 2.5 premium wagon for years as well as a 2018 outback and the 2005 wins by a large margin. Better made, better looks. Love em
Well, I can attest to how safe these things are. My 2004 Liberty 2.5i Premium met an unfortunate end when I went straight into the back of a Lancer that got sideswiped by an unregistered Commodore on the Monash Freeway at 100km/h. The car flipped 270 degree and slid down the freeway for a couple hundred meters with my head just cms from the road surface. When i was finally stationary I managed to unbuckle myself, find my glasses that were bent from the airbag punching me in the face and wrangle them back into place. Found my phone sitting on the tarmac next to where my head was and climbed out the passenger door with the Liberty still sitting on the driver's side. The ambos were shocked that I was walking around let alone completely unharmed apart from a bruise from the seatbelt tensioner. The girl looking over me reckoned it looked like I had glitter on my face... which was actually glass shards. Also been a part of club.lib for decades now
Great review, I've owned my 4th gen 2006 Liberty manual 3.0R wagon for 6 years now, and its just ticked over 250,000km. I do all the mexhanical work on my car and I can confirm that pretty much everything in this review is right. The EZ30 flat 6 is the most reliable of the 4th gen motors without the headgasket issues of the EJ25. Only other thing to add is that HVAC blend door actuators are starting to get to that age when they go on these, the parts are affordable but it does take a bit of labour to get in behind the dash to repair them. The intermittent check engine light is usually the variable valve timing solenoid actuators that are fed by oil pressure. They get blocked up by oil sludge intermittently with age and can often clear up themselves or be pulled out and cleaned. Genuine Subaru parts at the dealer or online are still plentiful and affordable, and for the major service with spark plugs, coolant, brake fluid and timing belt service the dealers are actually priced about the same as Subie specialists. Figure about $1000-1200 for that service. On a plus side everything is very DIY able due to the compact nature if the boxer engines. I've never come across a car that has a starter motor, alternator, and exhaust headers that are as easy to remove. Also the parts quality of coil packs, clutches, alternators, cooling systems etc. is from top notch Japanese OEMs like Denso and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries so these things dont eat parts like European cars will. Similarly plastic trim doesnt get brittle like European cars either so you can pull stuff apart and it goes back together like new.
My mate a year ago brought a 3.0 flat 6 2007 liberty and 3 weeks in blew the head gasket of it mind you it had about 270k on but still head gaskets are an issue.
@@ar12. Head gaskets are definitely still an issue on all old cars including the EZ series. The difference is that the EJ NA motors had defective head gaskets from the factory as they were made of a composite material that was not up to the job. The EZ and turbo EJ engines used a proper multi layered steel head gasket that is much more robust. At higher mileages head gaskets can still be an issue but it's not an inherently bad design, more likely due to wear and tear in the cooling system or overheating, poor maintenance, or overheating.
Headgaskets can be an issue but they can also last a long time as well, I know of a few h6 owners that have done over 300k without touching them, only the time chain and guides as they can stretch, I found out the hard way 😅 just replaced my head gaskets at 257k kms so well see how long she lasts. Bought mine 11 years ago now at 189k kms and shes been amazing to own. Lots of maintenance but as expected with any car.
Rubbish... I have two 3.6RS models with the better upgraded CVT. My 18 model is more adaptive for cruising but the 2017 model is better for the Sunday corners...
@@peterlattimore6013 good story champ. It's well known all CVTs are shit. Even stated by the mechanic in this video.. Why don't you think every other manufacturer use them..
Did Subaru sack all the designers of the 4th Gen Liberty/Outback cause they never made a well proportioned model since that time, in any model. So sad.
I was this close to buying a GT manual back in 2008 and to this day I keep looking at them, wishing I could re-live the experience. One of the best looking sedans ever made in my view.
One of the few carmakers who (briefly) had the perfect car for me when they made AWD turbo manual wagons with the spec B & STI tuned models which are pretty decent cars until the problematic 2.5 engine needs rebuilding. Sadly they’ve gone the way of so many other manufacturers who’ve stopped bringing in performance manuals to Australia. Definitely like their old stuff better their new stuff.
I love my Subaru liberty 3.0R the only problem is all the blokes that come and drool whale the woman don’t care lol 😂 I love the sub roof and the sound of the flat six when you get on it
I bought a 2008 3.0 model just a few months ago and it needed so much work before I could get a RWC for it. At this age, everything needs replacing. All the bushings (including diff), leak from cam cover and rear of timing chain cover and replaced timing chains, guides, tensioners, dashboard had cracks (common fault) so had to replace it. Most mechanics didn't even want to work on it, was going to cost $12+ grand. I did all the work myself but parts alone cost me $5 grand. I love driving it and I now have a good car but if you don't do the work yourself, don't touch it.
Curious. Why did you need to replace the dash for roadworthy? And what was wrong with the tensioners? just did them while the cover was off? i mean seems the only things it really required was the oil leaks, and the bushes. On the leaks though, they're usually very slow and a degreasing before trying to get a road worthy can get you through . then you can choose to ignore it, or not. (I chose to ignore them) Anyway I guess on the plus side all that stuffs done now, so can just enjoy the car .
@@mAJORDEE the dash had some cracks near the passengers air bag (very common with these cars) and that won't pass a RWC. I had to buy another dash from a wreckers and it took me hours to replace it. Also, I wasn't planning on replacing the chains and tensioners but there was a leak behind the rear chain cover so I had to remove the whole timing chain assembly in order to replace the hardened rubber o-rings causing the leaks. In the process I discovered a collapsed tensioner so I just ended up replacing everything, including the water pump since it all had to come out anyway. It was a huge job.
Bought my flat 6 Liberty 3 months ago with 180,000kms. Only 1 previous owner who had it from new! Needed some minor attention and cosmetic fixes like tiny dents taken out, but otherwise in immaculate condition. In the beautiful deep blue colour as well. Absolutely love the feel and sound of the car and 100% intend to keep it around for a long time. Maybe with some tasteful mods along the way.
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I believe it was due to Toyota's influence after they bought a chunk of Fujitsu Heavy Industries and had power to make calls on Subaru car designs. 5th gens line up look like they are all close cousins to Camrys, imho. Also, Toyota wouldn't want as tough of a competitor as before.
Had 4 Subaru Outbacks between 1999 and 2008. Loved them. Wifey had tears in her eye's when I traded the last one in. Last car was a Premium R H6 with all the bells and whistles. Certainly up there with the C Classes I also owned. I used them for company work vehicles - could carry a 6 foot set pf steps inside the car with only one back seat partition down - Something which couldn't be done in the Generals station wagon or many large 4WD wagons. Cars were serviced at the stealers. Carbon cleans were done from the first service. Subaru's are not Robinson Crusoe's when it comes to 100,000K timing belt changes
Im still the first owner of my black Liberty GT Wagon MY2004 with black roof bars. 251,000 km so far. Replaced with Bilsteins a year ago, otherwise all original. Still performs and fun to drive, no major issues. I don’t intend to replace it soon. I'm 71.
My 05 gt turbo has bilsteins all round with king springs to match love it just put light weight rims excellent tyres.Handles really good,but the poly bushes are overkill exept when pushing hard in corners.
I have owned most service them and the belt is cheap buy a gates from suppliers and cover gaskets on any car timing belts common on most cars do have niggles pick your poison
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3.0 Spec B wagon owner here. Absolutely inlove. If you are thinking of buying one - go for it. Good review.
I just bought an immaculate 2004 liberty spec B 3.0, what a car! Rebuilt motor and did the diff on purchasing and this thing is an amazing driving experience, and my Weekender is a built V8 but this thing is just awesome! I love it, it's my daily to get to and from work and I couldn't be happier, so glad I managed to pick up a smooth running 6, I am a changed and converted man, love the subies
Mate of mine has a 3.0R manual - it's been a bit of a moneypit, but it goes like hell and sounds great with an aftermarket exhaust. Pretty comfortable, too (even though the interior is falling apart, lol)
I have one too. it is at 315000 km now. Has a new stock exhaust after all those years and i changes the rear brake pads last week. Regards from Belgium. A German autobahn is nearby : )
I’ve had a few mid 2000s cars, all around the same kilometres and age. 2004 Nissan Sentra SE-R spec V (top trim) - absolute crap interior, rattly and cheap. 2004 Toyota echo -super cheap interior but very well built! 2008 Subaru forester (my first automatic car) - nice interior despite a couple rattles and abuse from the previous owner. Really impressed with the Subaru. I’m becoming a huge fan. -definitely miss manual though lol
Everything would be ok, if Subarus didn't simply have such rust problems. Especially in northern climates those rear axles and rear shock mounts just fall apart. I owned a 2006 Forester XT from new, which was very well maintained after purchase. The car was regularly washed, waxed and had several preventative rust treatments (Crown) done. In 2021, I still spent 3,500 EUR on changing the rear wings, repairing the bottom and sold the car for 4,700 EUR. No other issues except secondary Air pump and regular maintenance parts. Same issues with other models but the inner protection covers of the wheel arch save a little.
I have a 2011 Subaru Liberty 2.5i, my first car, worst decision in my life to get the only trim with a CVT, however back then I did not know. $5000 AUD fix to replace the transmission with a older km one. Currently looking for a Subaru Liberty 2.5 GT without the CVT
Cheers for the review. Im an artist. Hence pretty broke and need a decent hatch or wagon to carry stuff. Looking at one of these in a wagon or a Mazda 6 hatch (gg) next. Ive been spoilt with the luxury, practicality and performance of Saab 9000s and a classic 900. I think these 2 in the high spec options are really the only choices that interest me in my budget.
as some one who owns a blitzen spec b, I can conform that they are an absolute blast to drive, you just know you have enough power, to have fun. unfortunately I have to see it gone.
Biggest issues with these are the window regulator/motor breaking due to the switch for the drivers window sticking, also have issues with the front arm bushing wearing out prematurely. Ive had mine 6 years and its been great.
My wife had the 3.0l r wagon in manual, and it was an epic car. Was the best car we probably ever had, but it unfortunately come to a tragic end. The car got left in a multi-storey car park while my wife was in hospital for a couple of months. The rat's ate the wiring and the car wouldn't start. We got RAC to get the car going again so we could get home, but unfortunately we got home and parked the car in the garage the car caught fire. I managed to extinguish the fire.
Great review, my own 07 GT wagon is still going strong. Don't planning on replacing it anytime soon. I've also noticed the clutch was very heavy. Had it replaced and it's light as new but I still don't understand that mechanics of it getting stiff as they age though.
I used to own pretty much the exact spec of this car and I still miss that glorious sounding. Smoooooth boxer 6 and brilliant sti 6sp. Great car. Practical too. They would be Getting a bit old and tired now though.
There was also the rare 3.0R Spec.B Blitzen which was intresting variant of this H6 Liberty sedan sold here in Australia. That and Tuned by STi wagon was really nice cars. Subaru mid 2000s were certainly peak Subaru. Not that their products now are bad, they're actually really good just the competition no longer behind.
I owned a 2.5 lib as a p plater (flogged it), bought it at about 200,000 k’s. Was more reliable than my Fg falcon, only had to do maintenance (including timing belt), but 0 issues. Obviously there’s horror stories out there, like with most cars, but I found that the “unreliable” EJ25 can take a serious beating. Ps, this car handles amazingly you almost don’t have to brake for corners 🤣
I did on my P's too unfortunately mine was a money pit with head gasket, turbo and other issues. All down to a crap tune by the previous owner I reckon. Would love to own one again now I'm older with a better head on my shoulders
I stopped watching as soon as you said it might be better to finance then oay cash for a car. Pushing preditory lenders like driva isnt a good look and makes you look like your after a quick cash grab. Disappointing.
Not that we need to bother with the sales pitch, but Driva isn’t a lender. They aggregate loan packages so people can choose which loan they want, empowering people to have the freedom to choose what suits them best. Conversely, we’d argue that traditional financiers like banks and dealers are closer to ‘predatory’, as you put it, because they infrequently offer the same freedom, to the point where the buyer usually has zero. Reports point to a range of 50-90% of car sales being bought through finance, so its incredibly popular. How people arrive at the need to finance is up to them, we just advocate for a service that helps people find the best pathway, if that’s what they want.
My 2005 3.0R Outback wagon is one of the best cars I have ever owned. I installed coilovers and dropped it to Legacy ride height. Comfortable, reliable, smooth, great in our severe winters. And I can fit 3 55 gallon drums in it with the hatch closed.
I got a spec b 3.0 na 04 6 speed manual with 435ks on it. Kept the original McIntosh system and head unit. Spic condition from its engine, gearbox and sunroof :D. Fun car to drive. Did a whole bunch of preventive maitainence since I bought it but can't go wrong!
I have not one but 2 Subaru Legacys....2001 GT and a 2006 Legacy non GT.....the 01 is just shy of 300K and still drives daily. the 06 is my highway cruiser and is at 250K.....I cannot speak for the newer models but if they are anything like the older models they will last forever. One caveat, I am meticulous about maintenance. I change the tranny fluid, oil, and filters at recommended times or earlier. Everyone who drives in my car cannot believe it still drives so well, just like new. No rattles, squeaks etc. Thank you Subaru, life long customer.
Oh, I'm excited for this one, because I actually happened to buy an Outback in the generation before this one as my first car a few months ago! A later example with the 3.0R engine and everything! … I know I shouldn't be excited, but, still.
My dad has a NA 4 banger Legacy and it's great It can cruise at 180kph and if you press the pedal it will still get up and go at that speed Also no road noise from the inside, shocks can be absolutely gone and it will not care either Downsides was that the dashboard cracked, the door handles CAN break and are a pain if they do, not a lot of suspension travel so living in a 3rd world country isn't too great, the transmission CAN be rubbish if auto and hooo boy is that a pain because there's a billion different versions that you have to make sure if you replace it, it's from the same market as the car otherwise minor things will go wrong (3rdie problems) Still a great car though
Avoid. These weren't that good new. I made the mistake of recommending a 3.0R Spec B to my wife in 2006 and she still holds it against me. Manual with factory nav. Paint was poor and thin from the get go, interior plastics wore especially the buttons on the steering wheel, leather surfaces (gearknob/ steering wheel) worse several check engine lights, needed a new power steering rack at 20km Made a good noise, but was slow for what it was and thirsty than a Falcon. Air cond was good for front passengers, Mcintosh stereo was nice. Subaru servicing wasn't that good, and was expensive. As a one owner 3 year old car with 32,000 km and FSH it was damn hard to sell. No more Subarus.
I have a 09 2.5 GT Legacy sedan aut. A really nice car IMV Have read so many things about them, but here two years I still put it over the Audi A4 2.6, Benz C 180 kompressor and the BMW 520 e39 I have owned.
This is my favorite gen of the Legacy/Outback wagons. It had power, a great transmission and granted a few issues, but overall it’s really the best in both the 2.5L turbo and 3.0R platforms. And you Ausies were so lucky in getting the 3.0R in manual! My former ‘05 OBXT currently has 218k miles and it’s still going..
I bought one, 200K on the clock. 3.0R B spec with 6 speed manual. Yes I did have full service history, the car was well maintained. I do like to tinker and have been fixing small issues like window actuator and switches. I have a timing cover leak that is not to bad, overall the car runs well and is a pleasure to drive, in fact I sold my Camry of a similar age to get this car and it is far more enjoyable to drive. Do your home work and you will do OK!
I still miss my 2008 Liberty tuned by STI. It was immaculate with only 95,000km but was unfortunately ruined in a freak flood and I couldn’t move it before it was too late.
As an owner of a 06 Outback 3.0 H6 I totally agree! I live in southern Europe and due to tax legislations and pricing, the 6 cylinder Legacies cost more or less the same as a 3 litre equivalent from Bmw-merc-audi. So very few people bought them, and that makes them true Unicorn cars today! The sticker price of my Outback when new was around € 90k, in 2006! 🤣
My 2004 Liberty did 465000 kms and then I insured it for an agreed value of 10000, two weeks later somebody ran a red light and wiped out the car.. Hello 10000 payout.
Owned 2nd 3rd and 4th gen models all the way into high mileage (200-300k kms). The newer the series the worse they got for quality and reliability. My gen 2 with 350k kms on the clock - original engine, head gaskets, transmission, pretty much everything survived even the dash was not cracked or melted. All bushings apart from the front mains were original. Gen 3 was close with head gaskets at 200k and multiple fuel pump housings (they crack at the connector), the gen 4 was a bucket of trash compared.
My dad had a 2004 3.0-R b-spec from 2008-2018 and 15000-295000klms. He drove the wheels off it and it only got traded in after it split its head gasket soon after having a transmission rebuild. It’s suspension was well on the way out too and was just going to need too much money. Such a shame. He’s in an S5 now but still talks about that car.
I owned a 2007 US spec 2.5i sedan. Great interior, great AWD system, good driving dynamics. A little underdamped at higher speeds, but a good ride. Decent torque when you’re alone in the car. Clutch is on the heavier side, and the gearbox can feel clunky. TERRIBLE seat comfort on cloth models. I put 100,000 miles on that car and the worst problem is had was a bad ignition coil.
Funny at the end - after that list of potential issues, I was asking myself, "would'nt you just get an Aurion?" Dunno about this one. My partner has an 2011 Outback and my god, the servicing costs are outrageous in Perth, and there are very few places you can take it. That said, although I have only driven an older Outback, whatever Subaru does with their steering, road response and handling is absolutely magic. If I could get that in my 2015 Aurion, id be a happy man (yes i'm a little biased, but seeing those maintenance bills the missus brings home make me cry ;)
Had a 2007 3.0R auto wagon for 6 years. Loved it, sold it, no regrets. Engine and tranny absolutely bulletproof, steering feel improved lots with a sti front tower strut. Pretty much zero oil consumption. Power steering pump disintegrated at 100kkm, radiator went at 180kkm, and the top bolt on the front left shock completely snapped off at about 150kkm which could've ended real badly if it happened at speed. Check engine light used to pop up during motorway driving, and the local Subaru dealer and a non dealer specialist could not find out why. Fuel consumption was around 15.5L/100 of premium with mostly city driving. Brake rotors needed replacing every 50kkm. Interior plastic trim kept popping out for no reason, and for a 2007 car it had no traction control, ESP, or reversing camera. The Nakamichi system sounded amazing, but let down by the the door trim which rattled at average volume. Overall mixed feelings really. It was wonderful on a nice, twisty road, but I felt it wasn't great in terms of reliability.
The Liberty after this can only be described as "had too much KFC and a botched cosmetic surgery" . Also, get an Outback 3.0R. They get you everywhere in confidence and comfort.
Had the RB manual wagon for 18 years without any issues , thought i would get a more modern version but cant find a worthy replacement, tried a VWTiguan RLine but got rid of it after a year as i could tell it wasn't going to last.certainly miss the Subaru.
I watch all your vids But I'm impatiently waiting for you to do a ford focus st one preferably 2017 as I'm very interested in buying one but, be good to know what you think.i know you did the rs version and yes besides it's firm ride, you loved it But please do the st version?
@ReDriven i have a legacy in germany in black sedan its awesome its my first own car as well i love it (2004 3.0R) its a auto as well and it has 294700 KM has its faults like rust on the left Panel at the back and the door one time i needed to pick up my Parents from the Airport as they were on vacation and i was driving my Legacy to the airport when suddenly my car engine goes off and i was thinking quickly putting Hazard Lights on drive into a park station and i discover the Crankshaft sensor was broken so i replaced it it was fun to do it
I have the 2008 legacy for about 2yrs and I haven't had major issues with it. My only gripe with it is the low beams being subpar, wheelbearing always failing blame that on the roads. Other than that, I am happy with it.
Yes to a part 2. Like a toddler Adam, anything you put in front of me I'm going to consume. Oh and we got our 2016 XC90 just as your video came out and boy oh boy, issues but it's red and we'll love it regardless.
I HAVENT EVEN WATCHED THIS VIDEO YET AND I CAN TELL BY THE GRILLE ITS THE 3.0R MODEL, AND THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY THE PERFECT CAR, THANKS FOR LISTENING HAVE A GREAT DAY
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Can confirm. Drove a Blitzen (which is just a 3.0r in a pretty dress) from one side of Tasmania to the other today.
Car was perfect.
"I really had some bad issues with my floppy knob but Jim got his hands on it and with his expertise the knob got firm and confident all over again, almost immediately."
Noice.
Kudos to you mate, alot of car reviewers aren't willing to talk about floppy knob issues. Even though as car reviewers they almost certainly have loads of experience of floppy knobs
I drive a 2006 USDM LGT, blown it up a million times but im keeping it forever. At this point the bottom half of the motor is pure 2019 STI and the top half is pure Junkyard EJ mystery.
I've owned a 2.5 GT-B wagon for over 5 years now. I purchased it as I wanted rear or all wheel drive and manual transmission in a wagon. The only other choice was a VE SV6....
I love it, but as summed up at the end of the video, if you're not a car nut, don't buy one.
My engine was ok, if a bit oil hungry when I pulled it out earlier this year, but it came out because:
A) because the clutch needed replacement and it's easier to pull the engine and
B) It was leaking coolant and oil in hard to access area's.
I then found the engine had a mildly leaky exhaust valve, so now I'm committed to a full rebuild. Did it need it? Probably not, but I wasn't happy with it either.
Personally though I've had so many things fail/need repairs, it's too much to list.
Interiors are definitely variable and down to how well they've been cared for.
6 vs 4 is definitely a personal preference. I went the turbo 4 as it has much better fuel consumption than the 6 and a heap of punch with a few minor mods.
Also the steering feels rubbery because it literally has a rubber coupling on the column shaft. This can be fixed with either a Perrin locking kit or a solid shaft.
Love my 2007 pearl white liberty sedan 2.5l N/A got 270,000 kms on it still running like a dream
Had a Gen 4 Outback 4cyl and boy did I love that thing! Unfortunately it fell victim to the head gasket prob you mentioned and gave it away cheap but I'd so own one again. They were simply amazing over snow which I drove on once a week
This is a dream car for me.
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Subaru are a nice alternative. But in the UK they are seen as a small niche make unlike Australia where they are quite popular and mainstream. They are seen as generally reliable here but parts lead times used to be or possibly still are horrendous, you could be waiting 6 months for a part in the UK depending what it is. As Subaru are a small volume manufacturer here, parts stock was not great in the past, and usually sent on the slow boat from Japan, not sure if this improved. Subaru have a rep for rust in the UK too, but the WRX and STi Impreza are legendary here. Especially the Colin MacRae rally era Impreza's, these are highly sought after and cherished by current owners. Most other non cherished examples eventually rotted away or ended with the tits thrashed off them badly modified and wrapped around a tree or lamp post 😂.
I had an 08 Dark blue, H6 B.Spec wagon, Auto (would have loved a manual, but the misses needed the auto) - was an awesome car - no issues at all - of course had to sell to buy a house.
would love the opportunity to get another, this time in manual as a weekend fun car.
Was working in a caryard back in the day, and got a chance to give the Liberty GT wagon a go. Even in an auto, 8/10, would still love one. Definitely suited me more than the WRX. Sadly never got a chance to play with the 6 cylinder, but I imagine it would have been a smooth ride without the lag in the turbo.
Hence I bought the 3.6RS 6cyl model over the turbo version. Best thing I like is Instant torque and it runs on 91oct fuel for marginally less performance at half the price to purchase. I own two RS models and prefer the 2017 model with harsher suspension for more road feel. Good to know you weren't so much a fan of the WRX if ya had a choice?
@@peterlattimore6013 Yeah, sounds like the wagon with the 6 would be the go. But I do have a bit of a wagon fetish. ☺
Can you do the Alpha Romeo Giulia. Not the quad but the smaller engine
17:05 lol at that lady running in the background
Every time he says “supple” it gets me😂
The 5 speed auto is the most indecisive auto I've ever driven and the front passenger seat has the worst leg room for a front passenger seat.
Yes. I had a 2009 Manuel and miss it to this day because Subaru is a shadow of what they once were
ok im getting one my golf was a poile of poo im done with euros and i live in euros im getting this i love the golf to drive but it was walter white
I have the 2014 5th Gen Liberty 2.5i Premium. Want to feature it Redriven?
Well it was good enough for Ray Shoesmith, so that makes it good enough for anyone.
Best model liberty/outback series for sure. 03-08. Owned a 2005 outback 2.5 premium wagon for years as well as a 2018 outback and the 2005 wins by a large margin. Better made, better looks. Love em
do a G wagon 350d next pleaaaase 🙏🙏🙏
please review the 07 to 09 GT spec B or tb Sti
Well, I can attest to how safe these things are. My 2004 Liberty 2.5i Premium met an unfortunate end when I went straight into the back of a Lancer that got sideswiped by an unregistered Commodore on the Monash Freeway at 100km/h. The car flipped 270 degree and slid down the freeway for a couple hundred meters with my head just cms from the road surface. When i was finally stationary I managed to unbuckle myself, find my glasses that were bent from the airbag punching me in the face and wrangle them back into place. Found my phone sitting on the tarmac next to where my head was and climbed out the passenger door with the Liberty still sitting on the driver's side. The ambos were shocked that I was walking around let alone completely unharmed apart from a bruise from the seatbelt tensioner. The girl looking over me reckoned it looked like I had glitter on my face... which was actually glass shards.
Also been a part of club.lib for decades now
Great review, I've owned my 4th gen 2006 Liberty manual 3.0R wagon for 6 years now, and its just ticked over 250,000km. I do all the mexhanical work on my car and I can confirm that pretty much everything in this review is right. The EZ30 flat 6 is the most reliable of the 4th gen motors without the headgasket issues of the EJ25. Only other thing to add is that HVAC blend door actuators are starting to get to that age when they go on these, the parts are affordable but it does take a bit of labour to get in behind the dash to repair them. The intermittent check engine light is usually the variable valve timing solenoid actuators that are fed by oil pressure. They get blocked up by oil sludge intermittently with age and can often clear up themselves or be pulled out and cleaned. Genuine Subaru parts at the dealer or online are still plentiful and affordable, and for the major service with spark plugs, coolant, brake fluid and timing belt service the dealers are actually priced about the same as Subie specialists. Figure about $1000-1200 for that service. On a plus side everything is very DIY able due to the compact nature if the boxer engines. I've never come across a car that has a starter motor, alternator, and exhaust headers that are as easy to remove. Also the parts quality of coil packs, clutches, alternators, cooling systems etc. is from top notch Japanese OEMs like Denso and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries so these things dont eat parts like European cars will. Similarly plastic trim doesnt get brittle like European cars either so you can pull stuff apart and it goes back together like new.
My mate a year ago brought a 3.0 flat 6 2007 liberty and 3 weeks in blew the head gasket of it mind you it had about 270k on but still head gaskets are an issue.
@@ar12. Head gaskets are definitely still an issue on all old cars including the EZ series. The difference is that the EJ NA motors had defective head gaskets from the factory as they were made of a composite material that was not up to the job. The EZ and turbo EJ engines used a proper multi layered steel head gasket that is much more robust. At higher mileages head gaskets can still be an issue but it's not an inherently bad design, more likely due to wear and tear in the cooling system or overheating, poor maintenance, or overheating.
Headgaskets can be an issue but they can also last a long time as well, I know of a few h6 owners that have done over 300k without touching them, only the time chain and guides as they can stretch, I found out the hard way 😅 just replaced my head gaskets at 257k kms so well see how long she lasts. Bought mine 11 years ago now at 189k kms and shes been amazing to own. Lots of maintenance but as expected with any car.
Subaru's biggest mistake, making everything with a CVT since
Rubbish... I have two 3.6RS models with the better upgraded CVT. My 18 model is more adaptive for cruising but the 2017 model is better for the Sunday corners...
@@peterlattimore6013 good story champ. It's well known all CVTs are shit. Even stated by the mechanic in this video.. Why don't you think every other manufacturer use them..
After 25yrs owning Subaru's now have got Hyundai 120n love it
@@hobo1704If Toyota and Honda are using them, then they aren't all shit.
@@paulklp8262 yes, yes they are..
Did Subaru sack all the designers of the 4th Gen Liberty/Outback cause they never made a well proportioned model since that time, in any model. So sad.
I was this close to buying a GT manual back in 2008 and to this day I keep looking at them, wishing I could re-live the experience. One of the best looking sedans ever made in my view.
Yes this and the accord euro was my top 2 choice
I had one, wasn't bad.. the B4 I had before it was better
“Floppy knobs fixed by a bush …” - c’mon Adam and Jim be honest how many takes did you have before managing to say it with a straight face …
One of the few carmakers who (briefly) had the perfect car for me when they made AWD turbo manual wagons with the spec B & STI tuned models which are pretty decent cars until the problematic 2.5 engine needs rebuilding. Sadly they’ve gone the way of so many other manufacturers who’ve stopped bringing in performance manuals to Australia. Definitely like their old stuff better their new stuff.
The imports come with the 2.0 T I’ve got a 2008 wagon gt spec B on the way with 57k
I love my Subaru liberty 3.0R the only problem is all the blokes that come and drool whale the woman don’t care lol 😂 I love the sub roof and the sound of the flat six when you get on it
I love my 2004 Outback H6, possibly the best looking wagon on the planet 👍🇦🇺
I bought a 2008 3.0 model just a few months ago and it needed so much work before I could get a RWC for it. At this age, everything needs replacing. All the bushings (including diff), leak from cam cover and rear of timing chain cover and replaced timing chains, guides, tensioners, dashboard had cracks (common fault) so had to replace it. Most mechanics didn't even want to work on it, was going to cost $12+ grand. I did all the work myself but parts alone cost me $5 grand. I love driving it and I now have a good car but if you don't do the work yourself, don't touch it.
That’s why I didn’t go for one…
Curious. Why did you need to replace the dash for roadworthy? And what was wrong with the tensioners? just did them while the cover was off? i mean seems the only things it really required was the oil leaks, and the bushes. On the leaks though, they're usually very slow and a degreasing before trying to get a road worthy can get you through . then you can choose to ignore it, or not. (I chose to ignore them) Anyway I guess on the plus side all that stuffs done now, so can just enjoy the car .
@@mAJORDEE the dash had some cracks near the passengers air bag (very common with these cars) and that won't pass a RWC. I had to buy another dash from a wreckers and it took me hours to replace it. Also, I wasn't planning on replacing the chains and tensioners but there was a leak behind the rear chain cover so I had to remove the whole timing chain assembly in order to replace the hardened rubber o-rings causing the leaks. In the process I discovered a collapsed tensioner so I just ended up replacing everything, including the water pump since it all had to come out anyway. It was a huge job.
@@mrnicktoyou fair enough! thanks for clarifying. I didn't realise the cracks around airbag would fail rwc..seems pedantic on their behalf
@@mAJORDEE I did find a couple of dodgy mechanics who said they would pass even with the cracks but I wanted to do it properly, 😆
Thanks for the review - the Liberty was a brilliant car until they ruined its looks and installed a CVT
Bought my flat 6 Liberty 3 months ago with 180,000kms. Only 1 previous owner who had it from new! Needed some minor attention and cosmetic fixes like tiny dents taken out, but otherwise in immaculate condition. In the beautiful deep blue colour as well. Absolutely love the feel and sound of the car and 100% intend to keep it around for a long time. Maybe with some tasteful mods along the way.
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Subaru really dropped the ball after this one...👍🏾
I believe it was due to Toyota's influence after they bought a chunk of Fujitsu Heavy Industries and had power to make calls on Subaru car designs. 5th gens line up look like they are all close cousins to Camrys, imho. Also, Toyota wouldn't want as tough of a competitor as before.
Had 4 Subaru Outbacks between 1999 and 2008. Loved them. Wifey had tears in her eye's when I traded the last one in. Last car was a Premium R H6 with all the bells and whistles. Certainly up there with the C Classes I also owned. I used them for company work vehicles - could carry a 6 foot set pf steps inside the car with only one back seat partition down - Something which couldn't be done in the Generals station wagon or many large 4WD wagons.
Cars were serviced at the stealers. Carbon cleans were done from the first service.
Subaru's are not Robinson Crusoe's when it comes to 100,000K timing belt changes
Im still the first owner of my black Liberty GT Wagon MY2004 with black roof bars. 251,000 km so far. Replaced with Bilsteins a year ago, otherwise all original. Still performs and fun to drive, no major issues. I don’t intend to replace it soon. I'm 71.
My 05 gt turbo has bilsteins all round with king springs to match love it just put light weight rims excellent tyres.Handles really good,but the poly bushes are overkill exept when pushing hard in corners.
What suspension is Nick using? Rebuilt bilstiens?
Hi mate, I have replaced the Bilstein shocks with considerably lower km units (~20,000km)
@@nick_sta factory units or the b6's?
@@zaamuro8408 factory.
I have owned most service them and the belt is cheap buy a gates from suppliers and cover gaskets on any car timing belts common on most cars do have niggles pick your poison
3.0 Spec B wagon owner here. Absolutely inlove. If you are thinking of buying one - go for it. Good review.
I have one too. black/black. Items from 3m fit in it. Good practical car. Have it 10 years already.
What's the suspension and exhaust on this car? I can't find it in the description.
Hi mate, I have replaced the Bilstein shocks with considerably lower km units (~20,000km). The exhaust is an Xforce mild steel catback.
@@nick_sta thanks for that. I might do the same exhaust on my car.
Never buy any vehicle for general use unless it is a Toyota, Mazda or Honda (in any order).
suppose you think you are smart regurgitating that same old B.S.
I just bought an immaculate 2004 liberty spec B 3.0, what a car! Rebuilt motor and did the diff on purchasing and this thing is an amazing driving experience, and my Weekender is a built V8 but this thing is just awesome! I love it, it's my daily to get to and from work and I couldn't be happier, so glad I managed to pick up a smooth running 6, I am a changed and converted man, love the subies
Mate of mine has a 3.0R manual - it's been a bit of a moneypit, but it goes like hell and sounds great with an aftermarket exhaust. Pretty comfortable, too (even though the interior is falling apart, lol)
ive had ez30 for going on 50 years now, never bat an eyelid
And thirsty af
A family member bought this exact car brand new and still has it… a manual 3.0L R Spec B.
It’s just about to tick over 300,000kms. It’s been faultless
I have one too. it is at 315000 km now. Has a new stock exhaust after all those years and i changes the rear brake pads last week. Regards from Belgium. A German autobahn is nearby : )
I’ve had a few mid 2000s cars, all around the same kilometres and age.
2004 Nissan Sentra SE-R spec V (top trim)
- absolute crap interior, rattly and cheap.
2004 Toyota echo
-super cheap interior but very well built!
2008 Subaru forester (my first automatic car)
- nice interior despite a couple rattles and abuse from the previous owner. Really impressed with the Subaru. I’m becoming a huge fan.
-definitely miss manual though lol
I'll get a Lexus IS instead. Best rational choice. Unfortunately, we didn't have that Subaru model in France.
Everything would be ok, if Subarus didn't simply have such rust problems. Especially in northern climates those rear axles and rear shock mounts just fall apart. I owned a 2006 Forester XT from new, which was very well maintained after purchase. The car was regularly washed, waxed and had several preventative rust treatments (Crown) done. In 2021, I still spent 3,500 EUR on changing the rear wings, repairing the bottom and sold the car for 4,700 EUR. No other issues except secondary Air pump and regular maintenance parts. Same issues with other models but the inner protection covers of the wheel arch save a little.
I have a 2011 Subaru Liberty 2.5i, my first car, worst decision in my life to get the only trim with a CVT, however back then I did not know. $5000 AUD fix to replace the transmission with a older km one. Currently looking for a Subaru Liberty 2.5 GT without the CVT
Cheers for the review. Im an artist. Hence pretty broke and need a decent hatch or wagon to carry stuff. Looking at one of these in a wagon or a Mazda 6 hatch (gg) next. Ive been spoilt with the luxury, practicality and performance of Saab 9000s and a classic 900. I think these 2 in the high spec options are really the only choices that interest me in my budget.
Got my liberty as my first car. Drove it for delivering Donimos in mountain suburbs of South Sydney... Fantanstic experience
Were Adam’s jeans too tight sitting in the car for the driving segment? He sounds like a chipmunk.
as some one who owns a blitzen spec b, I can conform that they are an absolute blast to drive, you just know you have enough power, to have fun. unfortunately I have to see it gone.
Amazing review, Owners without a doubt taken incredible care of this Liberty
Ty big man👌
This is the best Subaru, period. End of the 90s, beggining of the century sweatness, nice. Best era for cars in general
Biggest issues with these are the window regulator/motor breaking due to the switch for the drivers window sticking, also have issues with the front arm bushing wearing out prematurely. Ive had mine 6 years and its been great.
This car will feel better than your old 2.5i as the spec b came with better suspension with Bilstein's from factory.
My wife had the 3.0l r wagon in manual, and it was an epic car. Was the best car we probably ever had, but it unfortunately come to a tragic end. The car got left in a multi-storey car park while my wife was in hospital for a couple of months. The rat's ate the wiring and the car wouldn't start. We got RAC to get the car going again so we could get home, but unfortunately we got home and parked the car in the garage the car caught fire. I managed to extinguish the fire.
im sure some of them are good but ill never buy one because islanders and crackheads steal him in nz nonstop
Great review, my own 07 GT wagon is still going strong. Don't planning on replacing it anytime soon.
I've also noticed the clutch was very heavy. Had it replaced and it's light as new but I still don't understand that mechanics of it getting stiff as they age though.
I used to own pretty much the exact spec of this car and I still miss that glorious sounding. Smoooooth boxer 6 and brilliant sti 6sp. Great car. Practical too. They would be Getting a bit old and tired now though.
My 2.5 gt legacy (here in Canada) has 313k on the clock
There was also the rare 3.0R Spec.B Blitzen which was intresting variant of this H6 Liberty sedan sold here in Australia. That and Tuned by STi wagon was really nice cars.
Subaru mid 2000s were certainly peak Subaru. Not that their products now are bad, they're actually really good just the competition no longer behind.
Loved that Blitzed red Wagon. Was on sale when I brought my 2006 3.0R Outback Duotone.
I owned a 2.5 lib as a p plater (flogged it), bought it at about 200,000 k’s. Was more reliable than my Fg falcon, only had to do maintenance (including timing belt), but 0 issues. Obviously there’s horror stories out there, like with most cars, but I found that the “unreliable” EJ25 can take a serious beating. Ps, this car handles amazingly you almost don’t have to brake for corners 🤣
I did on my P's too unfortunately mine was a money pit with head gasket, turbo and other issues. All down to a crap tune by the previous owner I reckon. Would love to own one again now I'm older with a better head on my shoulders
What a great review. The owner has taken such good care of this
I agree, I believe the owners name is Nicholas. Must treat this car like a queen!
😂
What do people think of a 5th gen premium liberty?
I stopped watching as soon as you said it might be better to finance then oay cash for a car. Pushing preditory lenders like driva isnt a good look and makes you look like your after a quick cash grab. Disappointing.
Not that we need to bother with the sales pitch, but Driva isn’t a lender. They aggregate loan packages so people can choose which loan they want, empowering people to have the freedom to choose what suits them best.
Conversely, we’d argue that traditional financiers like banks and dealers are closer to ‘predatory’, as you put it, because they infrequently offer the same freedom, to the point where the buyer usually has zero.
Reports point to a range of 50-90% of car sales being bought through finance, so its incredibly popular.
How people arrive at the need to finance is up to them, we just advocate for a service that helps people find the best pathway, if that’s what they want.
My favourite generation of Subaru Liberty
My 2005 3.0R Outback wagon is one of the best cars I have ever owned. I installed coilovers and dropped it to Legacy ride height. Comfortable, reliable, smooth, great in our severe winters. And I can fit 3 55 gallon drums in it with the hatch closed.
is it me or is your voice pitched up in the driving section 😆
I thought the same too!🤣🤣 I was like what's going on is it just me?😆
Had the outback. Head gasket and off to the wreckers
Was just recently looking for the wagon version
I got a spec b 3.0 na 04 6 speed manual with 435ks on it. Kept the original McIntosh system and head unit. Spic condition from its engine, gearbox and sunroof :D. Fun car to drive.
Did a whole bunch of preventive maitainence since I bought it but can't go wrong!
Old subies never die.
Legacy GT Wagon is the ONLY way to go!
I have not one but 2 Subaru Legacys....2001 GT and a 2006 Legacy non GT.....the 01 is just shy of 300K and still drives daily. the 06 is my highway cruiser and is at 250K.....I cannot speak for the newer models but if they are anything like the older models they will last forever. One caveat, I am meticulous about maintenance. I change the tranny fluid, oil, and filters at recommended times or earlier. Everyone who drives in my car cannot believe it still drives so well, just like new. No rattles, squeaks etc. Thank you Subaru, life long customer.
Oh, I'm excited for this one, because I actually happened to buy an Outback in the generation before this one as my first car a few months ago! A later example with the 3.0R engine and everything!
… I know I shouldn't be excited, but, still.
My dad has a NA 4 banger Legacy and it's great
It can cruise at 180kph and if you press the pedal it will still get up and go at that speed
Also no road noise from the inside, shocks can be absolutely gone and it will not care either
Downsides was that the dashboard cracked, the door handles CAN break and are a pain if they do, not a lot of suspension travel so living in a 3rd world country isn't too great, the transmission CAN be rubbish if auto and hooo boy is that a pain because there's a billion different versions that you have to make sure if you replace it, it's from the same market as the car otherwise minor things will go wrong (3rdie problems)
Still a great car though
Oh no... Again..
It has an ashtray 🤦😂
Gotta love pretentious yuppies 🤦😂
Just having a little fun
The 4th gen was the best! I finally traded my '07 Legacy in at 179k miles for a '23 Mazda 3 Premium AWD sedan.
Avoid. These weren't that good new. I made the mistake of recommending a 3.0R Spec B to my wife in 2006 and she still holds it against me. Manual with factory nav. Paint was poor and thin from the get go, interior plastics wore especially the buttons on the steering wheel, leather surfaces (gearknob/ steering wheel) worse several check engine lights, needed a new power steering rack at 20km Made a good noise, but was slow for what it was and thirsty than a Falcon. Air cond was good for front passengers, Mcintosh stereo was nice. Subaru servicing wasn't that good, and was expensive. As a one owner 3 year old car with 32,000 km and FSH it was damn hard to sell. No more Subarus.
I have a 09 2.5 GT Legacy sedan aut. A really nice car IMV
Have read so many things about them, but here two years I still put it over the Audi A4 2.6, Benz C 180 kompressor and the BMW 520 e39 I have owned.
This is my favorite gen of the Legacy/Outback wagons. It had power, a great transmission and granted a few issues, but overall it’s really the best in both the 2.5L turbo and 3.0R platforms. And you Ausies were so lucky in getting the 3.0R in manual! My former ‘05 OBXT currently has 218k miles and it’s still going..
I bought one, 200K on the clock. 3.0R B spec with 6 speed manual. Yes I did have full service history, the car was well maintained. I do like to tinker and have been fixing small issues like window actuator and switches. I have a timing cover leak that is not to bad, overall the car runs well and is a pleasure to drive, in fact I sold my Camry of a similar age to get this car and it is far more enjoyable to drive. Do your home work and you will do OK!
I still miss my 2008 Liberty tuned by STI. It was immaculate with only 95,000km but was unfortunately ruined in a freak flood and I couldn’t move it before it was too late.
Sure, a B4 is a good poor man's SVX or R32. 😂 But else, just move quietly on. Imo. Buy an Accord Euro or Mazda6 if you must.
As an owner of a 06 Outback 3.0 H6 I totally agree! I live in southern Europe and due to tax legislations and pricing, the 6 cylinder Legacies cost more or less the same as a 3 litre equivalent from Bmw-merc-audi. So very few people bought them, and that makes them true Unicorn cars today!
The sticker price of my Outback when new was around € 90k, in 2006! 🤣
My 2004 Liberty did 465000 kms and then I insured it for an agreed value of 10000, two weeks later somebody ran a red light and wiped out the car.. Hello 10000 payout.
Owned 2nd 3rd and 4th gen models all the way into high mileage (200-300k kms). The newer the series the worse they got for quality and reliability. My gen 2 with 350k kms on the clock - original engine, head gaskets, transmission, pretty much everything survived even the dash was not cracked or melted. All bushings apart from the front mains were original. Gen 3 was close with head gaskets at 200k and multiple fuel pump housings (they crack at the connector), the gen 4 was a bucket of trash compared.
My dad had a 2004 3.0-R b-spec from 2008-2018 and 15000-295000klms. He drove the wheels off it and it only got traded in after it split its head gasket soon after having a transmission rebuild. It’s suspension was well on the way out too and was just going to need too much money. Such a shame. He’s in an S5 now but still talks about that car.
I owned a 2007 US spec 2.5i sedan. Great interior, great AWD system, good driving dynamics. A little underdamped at higher speeds, but a good ride. Decent torque when you’re alone in the car. Clutch is on the heavier side, and the gearbox can feel clunky. TERRIBLE seat comfort on cloth models. I put 100,000 miles on that car and the worst problem is had was a bad ignition coil.
Funny at the end - after that list of potential issues, I was asking myself, "would'nt you just get an Aurion?" Dunno about this one. My partner has an 2011 Outback and my god, the servicing costs are outrageous in Perth, and there are very few places you can take it. That said, although I have only driven an older Outback, whatever Subaru does with their steering, road response and handling is absolutely magic. If I could get that in my 2015 Aurion, id be a happy man (yes i'm a little biased, but seeing those maintenance bills the missus brings home make me cry ;)
Had a 2007 3.0R auto wagon for 6 years. Loved it, sold it, no regrets.
Engine and tranny absolutely bulletproof, steering feel improved lots with a sti front tower strut. Pretty much zero oil consumption.
Power steering pump disintegrated at 100kkm, radiator went at 180kkm, and the top bolt on the front left shock completely snapped off at about 150kkm which could've ended real badly if it happened at speed. Check engine light used to pop up during motorway driving, and the local Subaru dealer and a non dealer specialist could not find out why.
Fuel consumption was around 15.5L/100 of premium with mostly city driving. Brake rotors needed replacing every 50kkm. Interior plastic trim kept popping out for no reason, and for a 2007 car it had no traction control, ESP, or reversing camera. The Nakamichi system sounded amazing, but let down by the the door trim which rattled at average volume.
Overall mixed feelings really. It was wonderful on a nice, twisty road, but I felt it wasn't great in terms of reliability.
The Liberty after this can only be described as "had too much KFC and a botched cosmetic surgery" . Also, get an Outback 3.0R. They get you everywhere in confidence and comfort.
Had the RB manual wagon for 18 years without any issues , thought i would get a more modern version but cant find a worthy replacement, tried a VWTiguan RLine but got rid of it after a year as i could tell it wasn't going to last.certainly miss the Subaru.
I watch all your vids
But I'm impatiently waiting for you to do a ford focus st one preferably 2017 as I'm very interested in buying one but, be good to know what you think.i know you did the rs version and yes besides it's firm ride, you loved it But please do the st version?
@ReDriven i have a legacy in germany in black sedan its awesome its my first own car as well i love it (2004 3.0R) its a auto as well and it has 294700 KM has its faults like rust on the left Panel at the back and the door one time i needed to pick up my Parents from the Airport as they were on vacation and i was driving my Legacy to the airport when suddenly my car engine goes off and i was thinking quickly putting Hazard Lights on drive into a park station and i discover the Crankshaft sensor was broken so i replaced it it was fun to do it
I have the 2008 legacy for about 2yrs and I haven't had major issues with it. My only gripe with it is the low beams being subpar, wheelbearing always failing blame that on the roads. Other than that, I am happy with it.
Yes to a part 2.
Like a toddler Adam, anything you put in front of me I'm going to consume.
Oh and we got our 2016 XC90 just as your video came out and boy oh boy, issues but it's red and we'll love it regardless.