2007 subaru forester XT owner here (340HP) there are somethings to be noted here with the forester of this generation (SG5-SG9) 1:window gussets: this model has frameless window so some wind noise is to be expected, in case it gets really noisy check your window gussets for gaps and just replace them (NEVER CLOSE THE DOOR BY TOUCHING THE GLASS THIS CAUSES DAMAGE TO THEM) 2: 4EAT: the 4EAT is one of subarus most reliable trans but it needs to be properly maintaned, change your fluids every 40K miles or 80K kilometers and it should last forever.. also dont be a cheap bastard and change all 4 tires at the same time your center diff will thank you in the long run 3: 5 speed manual: this trans is shared in a lot of subarus but it is made of glass (literally) if u dont know how to launch a AWD car say goodbye to your trans or think on making it stronger 4: head gaskets: this causes confussion ONLY THE N/A 2.5 HAD THIS ISSUE depending on where you are in the world you can have the choice of a 2.0 or the 2.5 N/A or 2.5 turbo both the 2.0 and 2.5 turbo do not have head gasket problems but they will fail if not maintaned properly. 5:OEM: will be simple here dont be a cheap bastard use OEM. 6:oil starvation: this things eat oil. check your oil. engine will thank you in the long run this is all i can think off if i had any errors on the writing aspect i must say sorry english is not my main thing if we are talking about grammar and im tipyng this with a broken arm so its worse
Good to hear from a sensible owner. Even this stupid - seemingly thorough - review by ReDriven doesn’t differentiate between the NA and turbo versions, which as you say the turbo doesn’t have the HG issue. I had an ‘06 XT Lux which I LOVED and wish I didn’t have to sell at the time. I need another SUV type car again, and if the new Outback XT isn’t available I’m going to look at getting another SG Foz XT. NO other SUV I’ve looked at recently has the same ground clearance with low driver seat height and low boot lip.
@poo flap check for a saggy bum too. Not a big deal as it’s prob just the self levelling struts that need replacing, just factor it into purchase price. Better yet get a pre purchase report
the 4eat also has an issue with the transfer clutch solenoid that causes binding on turns at low speed, about 200USD for the part plus labor to replace
I have owned several high milage subarus never had head gasket issues. I have a outback 2.5 from 2005 now with 340.000km no oil usage or head gasket problem. Don't worry about it people. And these cars are easy to work on yourself.
Well I bought new in 2003, had it for 17yrs and 270,000kms, then it blew a head gasket and would of cost more than the car was worth to fix 😟. So scrapped the car.
Don’t forget the laws of probability though - if one in six Subarus develop this issue and you owned three, then your chances of having no issue are still better than 50% (125 in 216, to be precise :) )
A couple of points you missed. 1: this model had frameless door glass. Check for proper alignment, wind noise, or signs of moisture entry, and glass seal condition. 2: stress the importance of maintaining, rotating and replacing all four tyres together to protect the centre fluid coupling diff over the long term. Running two new tyres with two old tyres can result in problems.
Mine just ticked over 300K. 2005 Forester X. I think they're much more reliable if you avoid the Turbo charged model (XT). One thing to also mention is the front right CV axle sits very close to the exhaust and gets very hot, this is common on most 4cyl cars but still worth mentioning. This causes the grease inside to basically melt out of the rubber boot.
@@vincentperrault5900 sorry, sold mine a while ago. But Assuming the door seals are good condition, at first I used to just physically pull on the window (at risk of breaking it) which usually does the job until road vibrations open the gap again. The next thing I did was remove the door card and put thin shims behind the upper bolts of the drive mechanism to angle it slightly, and bend the bolt hole locations. Just bend it a little. For the shim option you Don't need much....I just cut up a coke can and used a couple of can thicknesses to alter the window angle just slightly. That combination Actually worked for me.
This is also a big one. I got a first generation parts car which had different brand tyres and it had chewed out the centre diff (no issue as it was $300 and I just wanted a few bits and pieces off it
Currently own a Subaru Forester 2005...got it at 129,000km, and now its 148,000km, made a few changes to it. Overall its been an awesome car to have👌. I've tested its off road capabilities as well as the symmetrical AWD in really crazy situations and I've not been disappointed. I'm always confident in that ride and I'd recommend it over and over again👌
I’ve got a 2008 and it’s been a great car. I’ve had it 3 years and haven’t had any major issues. Biggest thing was the alternator going bad, which is happens with any car. It burns oil, but not too bad. My favorite thing about it is probably how easy it is to drive. You have really good visibility, don’t sit too high or too low, and the gas pedal has a really good feel to it. It’s a great car to teach someone how to drive in.
I have 2002 Forester.. very happy with it.. great condition considering the year, simple AWD. perfect, soon will fit turbo or compressor and new clutch as it's slippery in high gear, when push it.. is great car.. I'm mechanic... New cars is shit built to break down.
I own a 2007 XT with 316k on the clock and love it. It had a full service history when I bought it and I'm doing the maintenance myself. I've done the 300k service and regular 1500km services and use only genuine parts.
I have the base model of this that I bought back in January (2021) with 188km on it (now 213) and I have never had an issue. I had to replace the headlights and forget getting genuine ones from subaru because they are over 1k each. I got some for about 650 from the US and fitted some modern bulbs and made a world of difference. Replacing them involves removing the front bar but it's not difficult and can be done within a hour. Be careful when replacing the stereo though, the whole facica has to be removed and there are fiddly linkages that connect to the air con controls. However it takes a single or double din head unit so you can really put a good stereo in if you like. The mechanical side of things requires some thought. Regular oil changes (no more than 10tho km) and gearbox and diff oils should be done no longer than 50tho km. Fuel economy is trash. The car weighs 2 tonnes with one person in it. It has a 60L tank and you would average maybe 550 with most highway driving. the power to weight is terrible. I picked up mine for 4.5k but now they are around the 7-9k. The standard wheels are undersized, I replaced mine with some 17" wheels off a 2019 outback and it works well. Overall I like it with my good stereo and 750kg towbar my biggest downside is fuel economy. Major servicing that includes the timing belt is usually overpriced at workshops. The timing belt kit wants all the pulleys replaced which is not usually required and that costs 740 from supercheap alone, where the belt and tensioner itself are about 1/4 the price. You can do it at home with some mechanical knowledge. Spark plug replacement is cumbersome but can be done within 30 mins with the right tools if you don't have a turbo version.
Just fyi your videos are the perfect length to take with me from breakfast- to getting ready don’t waste time scrolling for things to watch when I should be getting ready 👍🏻
I've owned a 2006 since 2008 and it's been solid as. Definitely check the fitment of the windows, the frameless doors are a security weakness and if they've been forced to gain entry they tend to never go back to how they should be, while you're driving see if you can slide your finger up between the seal and the glass at all. DAMHIK.
Two years ago I bought an ‘05 Forester 2.5X, SOHC (non-turbo) with 111,000 km for about $1,100 CAD. Barely driven, nearly new interior. A great deal. A bit more rust underneath than I’m happy with, but this IS Canada after all. Lots of snow and road salt here. The tops of both front struts are also rusted, looks like the springs are gonna pop through any day now. I use this car for city driving for the time being, and I’ve made a few longer distance road trips. Besides changing the oil and oil filter three times a year I’ve replaced the entire exhaust system, plugs, belts, air filter, alternator, front disk rotors and pads, front disk metal dust shields, rear brake pads, battery, and a few internal and external bulbs along the way. Some of these parts weren’t absolutely necessary, and probably frivolous, but hey, I enjoy doing the work. I’ve replaced the O2 sensor twice, both times with the less expensive after-market versions. The O2 sensor from the dealership costs almost half of what I paid for the entire car! I also replaced the front passenger and driver’s window felt guide pads which had gotten old and dried out, causing the glass to develop very fine scratches, every time the windows went up and down. The rear bearings will be next. I can hear them growling at me over about 40 km/h. Also due for a replacement are the timing belt, sprockets, idlers and new water pump. I’m going with original Subby parts when it comes to the timing belt and idler bearings. I’ll be returning the Chinese made sprocket and bearings next week. I don’t trust them. The head gaskets do leak a bit of oil, a common problem with this type, I am told, but nothing extreme, yet. I’ll leave that fix till next summer.
We had a friend with a Forester tag along on a few 4WD & camping trips 20 years ago. So, it was first Gen. Quite capable off-road, as long as you had realistic expectations of where it could go. Mostly just had to be mindful of the ground clearance (which he was not) and be careful not to bottom out (which he did, a few times). It surprised us how well it performed. Not comparing it to a Hilux or a Jeep. But he was able to come out with us and join the fun. The out takes crack me up. 🤣
I've found the same mate. I did some content for Nissan a while back, hammering a Navara Warrior all through the Victorian high country and kept running into a 2nd gen Forester with some smart mods and the thing was a beast. I remember arriving at locations and seeing the Forester and being amazed it even made to these places. Out takes aren't going anywhere mate, I struggle with speaking at the best of times! - AK
I have the manual version of the forester in this video. Very reliable, first engine light on at 235,000kms. Capable off road even stock did a great job. Very very practical. Will take a beating and reward you for it by continuing to run well. Fuel economy is not great, but I leave that up to user input. Will happily buy again.
Bought a 2005 2XS with 60,000 miles on it. Replaced the exhaust from the cat back and have put a new set of tires on it but other than that just regular maintenance. It’s got 180,000 on it now and still runs great. I live in Maine and love the AWD. Really plows through the snow with the higher wheel base. Would definitely but another second gen. It been a great little SUV and I can camp in it by putting a seat down for sleeping.
I just purchased a similar one JDM from Japan 2005 (69,000km, 2.0XS), and it's yet to arrive here in Tanzania. I will come back with my comments after a couple of months of using it. Cheers
Two years have passed, and I have driven almost 111,200km. I must say, I absolutely adore this car. I had to do a major service at 100,000km replacing the timing belt and its accessories. This was expensive, but in my opinion, it was worth it. The MPG may not be the best (appr. 9km/l), but the driving experience more than makes up for it. I dislike how the body becomes bumpy when pressed or leaned on. I will try to keep it for as long as I can!
@@justjingerjosh6852 Two years have passed, and I have driven almost 111,200km. I must say, I absolutely adore this car. I had to do a major service at 100,000km replacing the timing belt and its accessories. This was expensive, but in my opinion, it was worth it. The MPG may not be the best (appr. 9km/l), but the driving experience more than makes up for it. I dislike how the body becomes bumpy when pressed or leaned on. I will try to keep it for as long as I can!
I run a 2006 2,5t and have since then put 314,000 km on it. I have replaced head gaskets once ,changed the radiator once and fitted normal rear struts. Other than that I have had no problems worth mentioning and in fact the motor still purrs like a swiss watch. Of course I service it regularly every 10,000km and use only the best replacement parts and fluids. I am now retired and do not drive as often as I used to but I have no doubt that I would be able to take this car on a 1500km cross country trip without any problems. I really love my Scooby...
Bought an optioned out pre-facelift forest green 2004 forester 2.5XS 5MT late last year w/ 110k miles (American), real shiny, just replacing wear and tear parts. I live in the Pacific Northwest so the AWD is such a win. Clean old Subies can be a rare sight up here, so really happy to be driving this beauty! All the bespoke options work, too. :D
I have an ‘03 forester that I am the second owner of, and the previous owner was an old man that used it to get groceries, so he put 240’000 kilometers on it and spent well over $5000 on new OEM engine parts In 2018-2020 (when I bought it)
I love my 2006 Forester. Bought at 50,000km 2 years ago and it's just done 100,000km and now has a new cambelt. It's super practical for me, the Labrador, tearing around the farm in and driving on the river bed. I just need an xt now, missing the power
I have a 2003 forester original transmission and engine with 389000 miles slight sweat leak finally on head gasket not worry about it no leaks on ground.
great review , the faults like head gasket problems are common. I agree with another commenter, Glass seals can also be problem area possibly and expensive to replace. Always buy four tires as set since most of these are AWD and dont like mismatched tires or of different tire tread depth. Solid on the highway and with all terrain tires and a lift kit it goes almost anywhere full size truck goes just not rock crawling or stream crossing deeper than 10". 2005 with the off road package is the modal I own
98 first gen owner. the bad head gaskets are rarely a problem as most where recalled and replaced. 223,000 miles on mine but i am getting ready to tare it down and rebuild it. the bearings are starting to rattle on cold starts. i figure new rings bearing oil pump timing kit shes gonna as good as new. and of course new gaskets.
I think it's way cool that young surfer girls and guys are buying these. - I wish they were around when I was a young guy. I'm a glider pilot, and mine has done over 350,000 kms. Just a tip to the surfers and sporty types. - Don't buy the automatic version. The manual is way better, with a high and low range that the automatic doesn't have. The low range will get you through almost anything at walking speed. It'll give you more confidence to get into and out of that favourite beach with a lot more confidence - and it still has cruise control. The moonroof is great, and I sometimes sit on the centre console with my head through the roof, while towing my glider at walking speed to the launch point. Buy one, and accumulate lots of stories to bore your future grandkids with. Power on, guys!
A tip if you're looking for rust, the first (and only) spot to rust on both my SG foresters was under the plastic trim piece around the hook that the boot latches to. Super easy to remove, and it seems like water runs down the boot seal and pools around the latch.
I've got a 2006 Forester that I bought here in the US for $3,500 USD. It has 219K miles now and it's been great on the highway, in the snow, and generally a practical car to haul around my dogs, Craigslist purchases, and I've even camped inside of it a few times. Will likely just run it into the ground as major costly repairs don't seem prudent considering the high miles and what I bought it for.
nice. I found one near me around the same price and definitely thinking of picking it up. seems like for that price in this market may as well get something a little older and hope it lasts a long time than go to a dealer and way overpay with still no certainty.
Having a manual MY07 Forester XS in my family for nearly 9 years and nearly 70k kms of driving (purchased with 127k, now has 193k), it's been an awesome car so far! So good that I kept it as a hand me down from my dad and in the process of restoring it to her former glory. This is our 2nd Forester, we had a 1998 GX prior to it, which again, had nothing really major go wrong with for around 50k kms that we had that car. This one did have one mishap a couple of years ago with a nasty misfire, but that was just a bad coil. Currently though it's now got the typical head gasket leak, and it's due for a clutch, and some other things for being a nearly 18 year old car, but overall, I'm not complaining, I love this thing to bits, mostly because of the spec it has (Obsidian Black Pearl with the beige cloth interior), it's really unique, so much so it's actually hard to find interior parts in the whole of Australia, considering that one of my previous dogs enjoyed chasing trucks and literally 3 or so days after my dad buying this car, decided to bite a chunk out of the rear right door panel, and later on the driver's door card too, and have tried looking for a beige interior Forester for so long in a wrecker or any spare parts. Couldn't find a single damn one anywhere! Honestly, I think this generation of Forester, particularly the facelift is the best-looking Forester ever made, close 2nd being the original, as the pre-facelift one of these looked a bit too angry in my opinion, still a good-looking car though!
Good review. I have a 2005 JDM with the 2.0l engine. Have had it for seven years and had to replace one rear wheel bearing in that time, nothing else other than regular servicing. Pretty happy considering it only cost $10k
hey mate Im looking at a 2006 cross sports s edition (JDM one like yours i think with the same engine), is there anything I should look out for? (99,300 kms btw)
Nice, I have a 2008 JDM with the non-turbo EJ20 2.0L as well. I've also got noisy rear hub bearings haha, but I'm also really happy with it otherwise. JDM foresters!!!
@@krymsn3499 If you're looking at the naturally aspirated 2006 model, that should be the facelifted CBA-SG5 like in the video. As stated in the video, the left headlight tends to get water leakage that kills the HID ballast. You can DIY some extra sealant on the headlamps while you still can, because getting replacement headlight assemblies is quite expensive, at least here in Japan. Rear wheel bearings tend to be weak, so listen for a droning sound at the back when driving at highway speeds. Also make sure the extra long exposed bolt connecting the rear control arms and knuckle are not too rusted out, as replacing hub bearings requires removal of this bolt, which can be a nightmare if it is corroded. Replacing wheel bearings on this car is already a nightmare enough. Based on mileage, it's about time for a new timing belt & water pump if that hasn't been done already. It's also time for new spark plugs, which is MUCH EASIER to get to on the non-turbo boxers (hooray!). Also, my front strut mounts have very cracked rubber. This is a common problem on the Subies that doesn't seem to be a safety issue, but not pretty to look at. They are not expensive to buy new, but of course labor will cost you. Otherwise, I think it's a great car! And luckily, head gaskets are usually not prone to failure on the N/A EJ20s. I love mine to death.
I guess I'm blessed I worked in a shop and I did two or three Subaru head gaskets a month I just pulled the whole engine out and resealed the whole thing you pull the flywheel off there's covers back there you have to reseal and the main seal new head gaskets genuine Subaru MLS new timing belt kit only gates or genuine Subaru and Japanese water pump that's the only way to fly
Mine was used by am Mechanic who took really good care of it. It has hardly any rust and was never used to offroad... apart from me😄 Plus it has an really cool Forester sticker on the bonnet. Greetings from Switzerland✌️🇨🇭
XT 06 First owner no major problems so far Then again l am lucky as still have 92 Brumby as my daily driver Forester only gets used in summer because it has AC 139K should last till we go electric, hell l may even convert it.
i own a 2007 2.5 liter turbo model with 270k kilometers and counting, no head gasket failures in the horizon and as far as i know the engine wasn't rebuilt, these vehicles are more reliable than the internet may have you believe as long as you do your maintenance and dont mod it and if you do no matter what tune it accordingly and you should be fine. its surprising how good these cars are at everything except fuel economy. definitely one of the underrated cars i know and im all for it since thats the only reason i could afford it.
The fuel economy isn't even that bad. I've got a 2008 Outback 2.5xt with 5sp auto and in the 62000 km I've had it so far (148k total) it's averaged 9.2 l/100km, with a best on a trip of 7.9. My mother's similar age and kms 2.4l RAV4 uses 11 l/100km and she drives it like the 84 year old she is. The Outback has never gone over 10 l/100km unless I'm towing. I actually had a 2017 Outback 2.5 with CVT in California for a year and it used a little less at 8.5 l/100km, but tbh I think that's because it was almost all on freeways not on NZs twisty hilly goat tracks. I must measure it one day, but I reckon once I hit the new motorway at Warkworth I'm probably averaging 7.5 l/100km for the 210 km to Karapiro. www.fuelly.com/car/subaru/outback/2008/brucehoult/1005227
Thanks for another very good and informative video. We have a 2004 XS model with 170000kms and really like it. We bought it 7 years ago. We too find it great around town and it does the job. Always check for when the timing belt is due for replacement to prevent any issues. We have done regular service and had to do a rear end rebuild a few years ago. Very good on wet roads due to to the awd. We have fitted a tow bar and electric brakes to to an Avan and go off the bitumen. It however is very thirsty on fuel when towing but can tow 1300kg.
Turbo versions don't suffer with head gaskets like the NA engines. However, they can suffer if people bolt aftermarket performance parts on and then thrash the living daylights out of it, but, if you service them regularly ie regular oil and coollant changes and allow the engine to warm up before driving hard and to warm down again after driving hard before switching off then they can last forever. Where owners go wrong with Subarus (and Toyota full size 4x4) is neglect and abuse, look after them and they'll see you out.
An easier option to replace the headlight? But incredibly expensive!!! Easiest option is to live with some fading/discolouration. We have some of the same plastic discolouration with our 2013 outback and the price to replace them is hundreds of dollars EACH. Buy some wet and dry sandpaper and a spray bottle and gently sand back and treat with a laquer over the top. Chrisfix goes over this hack beautifully. Cheap, satisfying and very effective.
@@hooliganracing1629 hi, I have a 2008 2.5 XT, 95000 miles (150000 k), not a single issue. Just fitted new brembo disc brakes and pads, I will change sway bars to thicker ones, and some more suspension jobs. This is a beautiful car. Turbo? Just keep up with oil changes every 4000 miles, turbo will last forever.
I have a 2007 and had to replace the headlights and it’s going to run you about 300 USD witch is like a quarter of what I payed for it To deal with the no CarPlay problem I just bought a 10 dollar Bluetooth adapter to put in the aux port or the original radio and it works great. The best part about the car is that it has 8 CUP HOLDERS
Top up your oil, and change it every 8k km max. oil pick up is a weak point. maf sensor every 5 years. running a 290k km 2005 2.5xt 5mt, custom ecu map.
Biggest problem with this age Subaru is the stupid check engine cruise control oxygen sensor issue. People change alternators and cats to fix the P420 code and it’s most likely the o2 sensor.
Use Denso o2 sensors or your wasting your time ,$250 aud, mark in tasmania, easiest way is to drop the manifold with cat 9 bolts and off, it will pull fault code rarely but always go off, these are very delicate. Reuse gaskets . Mine has 4oo,ooo km and sweet as, Some drive lash, no leaks, old single layer hg, tick tock
I'm the second owner of a 2002 X Manual that I bought with 49,000, which now has over 230,000km. Yes, the older they get they do require a bit more love. But I can't fault mine at all, great fun Car to drive and to have. Beside from the standard Subaru Head Gasket issue, have only had normal consumables to replace.
What about the clutch? How many times have you replaced it?? I have one 2004 forester x. With 5 speed with 139k got it with 89k and I replaced ones no head gaskets yet by my self it was done on 2013. So what about you?
if you want a better interior there are some versions with leather interior and heated seats, mine has it and i was so pleasently surprised it doesn't rattle at all even with a huge sub in the back and honestly i didn't expect something like that without a luxury badge at this price. subaru is the best company for SUVs
Hi, I'm new to your channel and at the ripe age of 30-something I'm finally preparing to buy my first car, and I already know your videos and website will be a great resource! In particular I'm in the market for a cheap, decently reliable wagon. The 2nd-gen post-facelift Fozza was actually one of my first picks, along with the Impreza wagon or Outback from around this time. After watching this I'm still sure this particular car is probably the right choice for me, but there's certainly a lot to consider with maintenance and long term reliability, not to mention the fuel economy of these old Subarus. I definitely want to see more wagons from a variety of manufacturers from you in future to help me weigh up my options. ✨
You actually dont need an aftermarket head unit, just plug in a compatible bluetooth adapter into the cd changer output (blue) off the OEM stereo system. There are options on amazon or ebay.
Bought a Subaru Forester 2019 in Malaysia. It needs sounds proofing...super noisy with wind & rain noise like a 1942 Jeep....After owning it 1 year, it now has a clicking noise sound at the front of the dashboard....drives me bananas...
I had 2 of them, the 2nd gen and the 3rd gen, 2nd was better than the 3rd, biggest problem with them was Oil leaking and Radiator made out of Origami Paper that splits with any impact with a Mosquito 🙃 had 3 replaced under warranty. On the upside it’s perhaps the better SUV to have in the city. Great reviews you chaps ROCK 😊
I purchased a 2006 x luxury auto forester a year ago, the previous owner flogged it and the head gasket and whole engine went in 2 months, oil and coolant leaks, heaps of suspension issues, I’ve been constantly fixing it for a year including a second hand engine replacement so everyone PLEASE learn more about them before purchasing one. I was so naive and wish I saw this video earlier 😂😅
Yeah right on bro. I bought mine a couple of months ago with 183,000km. Saying the previous owner flogged it was a massive understatement. The car had crazy oil leaks. 10 days later, the alternator was overcharging the power systems of the car every time I went for 60km/hr. Service guy said had I driven just a couple more minutes, the power systems of the car would've been KAPUT. So, learning from our mistakes and checking the car before purchase is a great piece of advice.
An awesome fix for headlight condensation on any car (not just the Subaru Forester), is to take out the bulb and get some warmish air blown into the opening. You can use a hair dryer on its coolest setting or even a vacuum cleaner which has option to blow and suck.
That doesn't fix it. As to get condensation in the headlight. It means the seal is not working and letting water droplets in. Dodgy way to fix it. Is to drill a small hole in the bottom of the headlight. To let out the watet / condensation.
2011 X reporting in. Can confirm smoke when hitting the gas hard coming out the back. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD CHECK THE OIL EVERY 1K MILES. Had to replace motor because my Forester burns oil, luckily had it warrantied.
I bought one this January. Here in Romania it costs me 1100 euro for a full engine rebuild(pistons, rings and all other required parts) in case of engine failure. The rear struts and upgraded springs cost me 200 euro in total. I bought the car for 5000 euros with 252.000 km and i freakin' love it. Off road this vehicle is a monster straight out of the box. I love it ! Parts are very cheap here.
On so many reviews you say "there is a small spot to store something in the door" or "there is a small storage spot in the door - but I don't know what you'd fit in there..." dude, that is not a storage box, it's the door grab handle - the one spot you grab the door to close it! So many of your videos have you describing the door grab handle as a storage area. In this one you did it again on the rear door @ 7:00-7:01. Grab handle - not storage.
Owning 2nd gens..... I prefer the pre facelift cheaper to road tax here in the UK plus I like sone of the Gen 1 carry overs feautures like the folding front arm rests and no stupid expensive wind turbine device for emissions on the facelift version! I have the turbo versions. Worth remapping for me. Running at 1 bar mine put down 256hp at wheels and 268 ft/lbs. The 2.5 is torquey and being the shape of a brick not designed for top speed but low down acceleration. My 5 speed XT manual has done 170,000 miles now and is burning some oil. But my imported Forester STI is still tight at 180,000 miles. Drivers window motor on these bad design...water gets in them.
absolutely the Flippin best car. I've had mine 2 years. 195k miles. only 2 problems. I believe the pressure plate got stuck l%l/rusted to the flywheel....started it about halfway through my 5-10 minute morning warmup, and it stalled. I was like, what the f. Went outside, and the clutch pedal was stuck. My shifter or whatever u call it wouldn't budge outa neutral. I kinda forced it into first, cranked it up, and it went into reverse, and itbwouldntbmove outta 1st gear. I let it sit for like two days. Then, I intentionally popped my clutch. Real fast release of my Clutch pedal while still stuck in 1st, i l started her back up and it was back to normal. wtfbwas that but for the age bruh. oh and then muffler rusted off while sliding around in snow for fun
Oh and I just wanted to say at four minutes and eight seconds of this video... Don't take this fool's advice... "If there's any signs of rust walk away".. They are kind of old cars dude...
Have had the 2006 XT turbo for 6 years and love it but just upgraded to the 2011 SH for a more modern car. Hard to find but found a stock one after months of searching. New subscriber
As an owner of this tank, I'm quite happy with almost everything. It has "medium" ground clearance, which frees me forever from all damn border stones. It's VERY easy to enter a car - barely bent and jump in a seat! VERY convenient after any "low" sedans, not saying about sportcars. 2.5T is fast enough to not make you feel boring. Back side has a lot of space even to move wash machine! You don't need to call any trucks, just move stuff yourself. Yes, this car likes oil and petrol, but hell, it's NORMAL to pay for speed! I prefer to spend +10 bucks on petrol, but drive like a wind, than "saving money", moving like a 3-legs turtle. Remember - you won't be "rich" if you save 10 bucks, so don't be stupid. Drawbacks are: 1) clearance - better to have it higher (at least 20cm) 2) more intellectual battery management - you cannot leave car for 2 weeks and start. Pity. 3) Frameless door glasses. Listen, it sucks! It's unreliable and gives no profits in usage. 4) Better suspension. Current one transfers all noise directly to salon(cabin). 5) Archaic CD player. WHAT?? In 2006 you install CD player? F**** yourself, japanese idiots! USB was invented 10 years ago before you made a car! 6) Fuel. You definitely waste more than it worth. My "reprogrammed" 2.5T eats 20L. Sure it can be way less. It's not about money, but petrol tank - it's too small for car appetite. 7) Better dashboard - current one sucks. You cannot install anything on the board! I need at least smartphone + separate GPS + HUD. All of 'em need strong, easy to mount, non-slippery, FLAT surface. WTF I don't have it now - IDK. But despite what I said, I highly recommend to buy this model! Universal car for family and enjoyment.
I just purchased a similar one JDM from Japan 2005 (69,000km, 2.0XS), and it's yet to arrive here in Tanzania. I will come back with my comments after a couple of months of using it. Cheers
headgasket and the rear view mirror seals are the worst on these cars. Everything else is actually solid! I have a 2006 well maintained that just lost it's head gasket at 100k miles. So be mindful of that for some reason Japan did cheap on this when that's not usually what they are known for. So about 2k repair with valves and heads machined .Far worth it when i know I can get much much longevity out of it with flexibility .
Great car! I have a 2004 Forester X, bought it 5 years ago for $7.5k with 80,000km, I've put another 100,000km on it since, completely hassle free. I'd heard about head gasket issue from others but apart from regular servicing mine's only cost me a water pump and a new a/c compressor. Fuel consumption started at 10L/100km, more like 13L/100km now with lift and bigger tyres, up to 15L/100km when fully loaded for camping (full roof basket, second battery, fridge etc.). Don't know how you got as high as 16L/100km unladen?!
thanks for the info, mine seems similiar around 13l/100 pumped tyres ,no racks, steady throttle etc........ little spewing ... cost pf petrol an all, less galavanting
My mum has one of these had it since almost new we have done 180k kms on it and it’s now starting to cost us money. we have done the head gasket the timing belt and a wheel bearing. We have the Manual and have done the clutch. It has had the aircon regassed several times including just yesterday and the aircon compressor is on its way out. They go through headlights globes like butter we replace one every 6 months. And the driver window is dodgy It has been a great car beautiful to drive it was our family car until we got our Pajero in 2014 and now it’s our town car. Like said it isn’t fuel efficient but it’s really good on the beach.
I had a 2.0 Anniversary Edition for a few years and loved it. I've bought a new XV now and I love it, but I do miss the Forester a bit. The main reason I got rid of it was that it started getting electrical gremlins and the battery drained so I had to keep jumping it and couldn't be arsed figuring it out, so I sold it on.
I have a 2003 forester n/a and it has had head gasket leaks and a fuel leak which I fixed by tightening up the clamp and a coolant leak which I fixed by tightening the clamp. It’s the little things with these cars. I do like the forester but don’t trust it much. I only have about 140k miles on it at this point.
The older Subarus are the best you just don't know if you have not owned an old one I pulled trees across two acres with a 93 legacy trees a lot bigger than the car the older ones you had a lever on the console you just pulled up and it locked it in they were like tanks you could push snow with them
I actually just found one of these on a lot this morning near my house. It's an '05 2.5 x. The dealership is closed, so I have no idea on miles. They want $4,300 US for it. I appreciate you pointing out what there is to look for on these.
In my experience in a hot climate the thermostats should be changed preventatively. Perhaps every 4 or 5 years. If you wait for it to fail you can have much more expensive repairs. Facelift headlights develop leaks.
I have a 2005 2.5L NA 5spd manual variant and it has 340k on the clock. Apart from a head gasket and valve guides at 140k it just keeps on going. Much to the bemusement of friends and family. As mentioned above, check oil regularly between service intervals plus swap the tranny oil too or it can become stuck between gears. Can go mildly off road and not worry about possible damage because it’s not new. Also has a specific AWD ratio lever missing from newer variants. So why buy a new model? 👌🏻
Oh Liam, the bloopers won't stop anytime soon, I'm bloody terrible at remembering what I've written! Yes, the C4 is a great idea. We'll get into trying to track one down to review and film. - AK
I would stay well clear of diesel variants... had a nightmare experience with the DPF, which apparently is also quite common... problem was never able to get fixed.
@@ReDrivendiesel outback was pus in the city. DPF needed cleaning monthly or there was a boost leak somewhere nobody found. Either way it’s someone else’s problem now
The gen 3 Forester did away with all those handy cubbies and cup holders. There is little room for "stuff". I really don't like my 2011 now that I've had it for 3 years. It aggravates me on a near daily basis. And it burns oil like it's gas.
@@violetflame22 mine is an 06 and had it done about 180,000kms... That era all need them done eventually. The coating on the metal fails and they start leaking oil slowly. It's nothing to do with how it's driven, it is probably more to do with age.
Thanks for the awesome review! Very informative! Planning to buy one as a run around car. I'm also an avid mountain biker so I might take it for the occassional long drives as well. This has been my dream project car for the longest time but the 16 litres/100kms consumption made me think twice! Any same model owners here that can convince me otherwise? Appreciate any advice + or -😊 Cheers!🍺
As I said in my comment, having one in the family for nearly a decade and driven 70k kms since purchase pretty much daily, it's been pretty reliable. As long as you don't beat the shit out of it or neglect it and keep up with servicing, it will be a good car for you!
Just remember to check your oil regularly they do burn a lot of oil. And they don’t like to be driven like race cars. Drive em nice and do proper maintenance and they will last forever. I’ve seen multiple of these cars with over 400,000 kms and still driving great
2007 subaru forester XT owner here (340HP)
there are somethings to be noted here with the forester of this generation (SG5-SG9)
1:window gussets: this model has frameless window so some wind noise is to be expected, in case it gets really noisy check your window gussets for gaps and just replace them (NEVER CLOSE THE DOOR BY TOUCHING THE GLASS THIS CAUSES DAMAGE TO THEM)
2: 4EAT: the 4EAT is one of subarus most reliable trans but it needs to be properly maintaned, change your fluids every 40K miles or 80K kilometers and it should last forever.. also dont be a cheap bastard and change all 4 tires at the same time your center diff will thank you in the long run
3: 5 speed manual: this trans is shared in a lot of subarus but it is made of glass (literally) if u dont know how to launch a AWD car say goodbye to your trans or think on making it stronger
4: head gaskets: this causes confussion ONLY THE N/A 2.5 HAD THIS ISSUE depending on where you are in the world you can have the choice of a 2.0 or the 2.5 N/A or 2.5 turbo both the 2.0 and 2.5 turbo do not have head gasket problems but they will fail if not maintaned properly.
5:OEM: will be simple here dont be a cheap bastard use OEM.
6:oil starvation: this things eat oil. check your oil. engine will thank you in the long run
this is all i can think off if i had any errors on the writing aspect i must say sorry english is not my main thing if we are talking about grammar and im tipyng this with a broken arm so its worse
Thank you, your English is great.....
Good to hear from a sensible owner. Even this stupid - seemingly thorough - review by ReDriven doesn’t differentiate between the NA and turbo versions, which as you say the turbo doesn’t have the HG issue. I had an ‘06 XT Lux which I LOVED and wish I didn’t have to sell at the time. I need another SUV type car again, and if the new Outback XT isn’t available I’m going to look at getting another SG Foz XT. NO other SUV I’ve looked at recently has the same ground clearance with low driver seat height and low boot lip.
@poo flap check for a saggy bum too. Not a big deal as it’s prob just the self levelling struts that need replacing, just factor it into purchase price. Better yet get a pre purchase report
the 4eat also has an issue with the transfer clutch solenoid that causes binding on turns at low speed, about 200USD for the part plus labor to replace
+1 to all of this
I have owned several high milage subarus never had head gasket issues. I have a outback 2.5 from 2005 now with 340.000km no oil usage or head gasket problem. Don't worry about it people. And these cars are easy to work on yourself.
It’s the 2002 model you must watch out for the flaw was fixed in the 2003’s
🤣time to change them
Well I bought new in 2003, had it for 17yrs and 270,000kms, then it blew a head gasket and would of cost more than the car was worth to fix 😟. So scrapped the car.
Don’t forget the laws of probability though - if one in six Subarus develop this issue and you owned three, then your chances of having no issue are still better than 50% (125 in 216, to be precise :) )
@@paulsi1234 is that the 2.5 engine?
A couple of points you missed.
1: this model had frameless door glass. Check for proper alignment, wind noise, or signs of moisture entry, and glass seal condition.
2: stress the importance of maintaining, rotating and replacing all four tyres together to protect the centre fluid coupling diff over the long term. Running two new tyres with two old tyres can result in problems.
Mine just ticked over 300K. 2005 Forester X. I think they're much more reliable if you avoid the Turbo charged model (XT). One thing to also mention is the front right CV axle sits very close to the exhaust and gets very hot, this is common on most 4cyl cars but still worth mentioning. This causes the grease inside to basically melt out of the rubber boot.
Have you found any ways to solve the wind noises? I have an 2004 XT and a standard 2006 and they both have this problem.
@@vincentperrault5900 sorry, sold mine a while ago. But Assuming the door seals are good condition, at first I used to just physically pull on the window (at risk of breaking it) which usually does the job until road vibrations open the gap again. The next thing I did was remove the door card and put thin shims behind the upper bolts of the drive mechanism to angle it slightly, and bend the bolt hole locations. Just bend it a little. For the shim option you Don't need much....I just cut up a coke can and used a couple of can thicknesses to alter the window angle just slightly. That combination Actually worked for me.
@@kylegriffiths5990 Seriously? That's one major design flaw right there 😅
The wind noise from the mirrors on the motorway gets to be a real bother,
I have a 2002 Forrester L. Bought it used in 2004. Have always taken it to the dealer for all services. 279 thousand miles. Still strong and going.
whats your fuel consumption like mate?
Check the tyres are the same brand and similar wear, mismatch tyres will ruin awd diff.
Great advice. - AK
This is also a big one. I got a first generation parts car which had different brand tyres and it had chewed out the centre diff (no issue as it was $300 and I just wanted a few bits and pieces off it
Definitely. They are notoriously vulnerable to breaking the viscous coupling due to mismatched tyres
Currently own a Subaru Forester 2005...got it at 129,000km, and now its 148,000km, made a few changes to it. Overall its been an awesome car to have👌. I've tested its off road capabilities as well as the symmetrical AWD in really crazy situations and I've not been disappointed. I'm always confident in that ride and I'd recommend it over and over again👌
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Is it long enough to sleep in with the rear seats down?
@@Scottwithelot Depending on your height yes.
Do it burn gas good?
I’ve got a 2008 and it’s been a great car. I’ve had it 3 years and haven’t had any major issues. Biggest thing was the alternator going bad, which is happens with any car. It burns oil, but not too bad. My favorite thing about it is probably how easy it is to drive. You have really good visibility, don’t sit too high or too low, and the gas pedal has a really good feel to it. It’s a great car to teach someone how to drive in.
I have 2002 Forester.. very happy with it.. great condition considering the year, simple AWD. perfect, soon will fit turbo or compressor and new clutch as it's slippery in high gear, when push it.. is great car.. I'm mechanic...
New cars is shit built to break down.
I own a 2007 XT with 316k on the clock and love it. It had a full service history when I bought it and I'm doing the maintenance myself. I've done the 300k service and regular 1500km services and use only genuine parts.
I have the base model of this that I bought back in January (2021) with 188km on it (now 213) and I have never had an issue. I had to replace the headlights and forget getting genuine ones from subaru because they are over 1k each. I got some for about 650 from the US and fitted some modern bulbs and made a world of difference. Replacing them involves removing the front bar but it's not difficult and can be done within a hour.
Be careful when replacing the stereo though, the whole facica has to be removed and there are fiddly linkages that connect to the air con controls. However it takes a single or double din head unit so you can really put a good stereo in if you like.
The mechanical side of things requires some thought. Regular oil changes (no more than 10tho km) and gearbox and diff oils should be done no longer than 50tho km.
Fuel economy is trash. The car weighs 2 tonnes with one person in it. It has a 60L tank and you would average maybe 550 with most highway driving. the power to weight is terrible.
I picked up mine for 4.5k but now they are around the 7-9k.
The standard wheels are undersized, I replaced mine with some 17" wheels off a 2019 outback and it works well.
Overall I like it with my good stereo and 750kg towbar my biggest downside is fuel economy. Major servicing that includes the timing belt is usually overpriced at workshops. The timing belt kit wants all the pulleys replaced which is not usually required and that costs 740 from supercheap alone, where the belt and tensioner itself are about 1/4 the price. You can do it at home with some mechanical knowledge. Spark plug replacement is cumbersome but can be done within 30 mins with the right tools if you don't have a turbo version.
What an incredible comment. Thank you so much for taking the time out to write this. - AK
The weight is 1500kg, not 2 tonnes.
Just fyi your videos are the perfect length to take with me from breakfast- to getting ready don’t waste time scrolling for things to watch when I should be getting ready 👍🏻
Awesome mate! Great to hear
I've owned a 2006 since 2008 and it's been solid as. Definitely check the fitment of the windows, the frameless doors are a security weakness and if they've been forced to gain entry they tend to never go back to how they should be, while you're driving see if you can slide your finger up between the seal and the glass at all. DAMHIK.
Two years ago I bought an ‘05 Forester 2.5X, SOHC (non-turbo) with 111,000 km for about $1,100 CAD. Barely driven, nearly new interior. A great deal. A bit more rust underneath than I’m happy with, but this IS Canada after all. Lots of snow and road salt here. The tops of both front struts are also rusted, looks like the springs are gonna pop through any day now. I use this car for city driving for the time being, and I’ve made a few longer distance road trips.
Besides changing the oil and oil filter three times a year I’ve replaced the entire exhaust system, plugs, belts, air filter, alternator, front disk rotors and pads, front disk metal dust shields, rear brake pads, battery, and a few internal and external bulbs along the way. Some of these parts weren’t absolutely necessary, and probably frivolous, but hey, I enjoy doing the work.
I’ve replaced the O2 sensor twice, both times with the less expensive after-market versions. The O2 sensor from the dealership costs almost half of what I paid for the entire car! I also replaced the front passenger and driver’s window felt guide pads which had gotten old and dried out, causing the glass to develop very fine scratches, every time the windows went up and down.
The rear bearings will be next. I can hear them growling at me over about 40 km/h. Also due for a replacement are the timing belt, sprockets, idlers and new water pump. I’m going with original Subby parts when it comes to the timing belt and idler bearings. I’ll be returning the Chinese made sprocket and bearings next week. I don’t trust them.
The head gaskets do leak a bit of oil, a common problem with this type, I am told, but nothing extreme, yet. I’ll leave that fix till next summer.
We had a friend with a Forester tag along on a few 4WD & camping trips 20 years ago. So, it was first Gen.
Quite capable off-road, as long as you had realistic expectations of where it could go. Mostly just had to be mindful of the ground clearance (which he was not) and be careful not to bottom out (which he did, a few times).
It surprised us how well it performed. Not comparing it to a Hilux or a Jeep. But he was able to come out with us and join the fun.
The out takes crack me up. 🤣
I've found the same mate. I did some content for Nissan a while back, hammering a Navara Warrior all through the Victorian high country and kept running into a 2nd gen Forester with some smart mods and the thing was a beast. I remember arriving at locations and seeing the Forester and being amazed it even made to these places.
Out takes aren't going anywhere mate, I struggle with speaking at the best of times! - AK
I have the manual version of the forester in this video. Very reliable, first engine light on at 235,000kms. Capable off road even stock did a great job. Very very practical. Will take a beating and reward you for it by continuing to run well. Fuel economy is not great, but I leave that up to user input. Will happily buy again.
Bought a 2005 2XS with 60,000 miles on it. Replaced the exhaust from the cat back and have put a new set of tires on it but other than that just regular maintenance. It’s got 180,000 on it now and still runs great. I live in Maine and love the AWD. Really plows through the snow with the higher wheel base. Would definitely but another second gen. It been a great little SUV and I can camp in it by putting a seat down for sleeping.
I own an 03, I love it so much
259k on my 2003 XT Turbo. Love the thing. Has fantastic acceleration. If maintained properly these last decades
320000km : )
I bought a 03 for 2,500 dlls with only 134+++miles it's a stick shift and so far so good i love it
I just purchased a similar one JDM from Japan 2005 (69,000km, 2.0XS), and it's yet to arrive here in Tanzania. I will come back with my comments after a couple of months of using it. Cheers
How’s the car going?
@@justjingerjosh6852 pretty good I think
Two years have passed, and I have driven almost 111,200km. I must say, I absolutely adore this car. I had to do a major service at 100,000km replacing the timing belt and its accessories. This was expensive, but in my opinion, it was worth it. The MPG may not be the best (appr. 9km/l), but the driving experience more than makes up for it. I dislike how the body becomes bumpy when pressed or leaned on. I will try to keep it for as long as I can!
@@justjingerjosh6852 Two years have passed, and I have driven almost 111,200km. I must say, I absolutely adore this car. I had to do a major service at 100,000km replacing the timing belt and its accessories. This was expensive, but in my opinion, it was worth it. The MPG may not be the best (appr. 9km/l), but the driving experience more than makes up for it. I dislike how the body becomes bumpy when pressed or leaned on. I will try to keep it for as long as I can!
how much was the timing belt?
I run a 2006 2,5t and have since then put 314,000 km on it. I have replaced head gaskets once ,changed the radiator once and fitted normal rear struts. Other than that I have had no problems worth mentioning and in fact the motor still purrs like a swiss watch. Of course I service it regularly every 10,000km and use only the best replacement parts and fluids. I am now retired and do not drive as often as I used to but I have no doubt that I would be able to take this car on a 1500km cross country trip without any problems. I really love my Scooby...
Just bought a 2006 LLBean Forester and other videos made me concerned. Glad to see so many comments saying they aren't too bad.
Bought an optioned out pre-facelift forest green 2004 forester 2.5XS 5MT late last year w/ 110k miles (American), real shiny, just replacing wear and tear parts. I live in the Pacific Northwest so the AWD is such a win. Clean old Subies can be a rare sight up here, so really happy to be driving this beauty! All the bespoke options work, too. :D
I've got a manual 2005 with 415000kms..one of the headgaskets is fucked but it just keeps going, I love it
I have an ‘03 forester that I am the second owner of, and the previous owner was an old man that used it to get groceries, so he put 240’000 kilometers on it and spent well over $5000 on new OEM engine parts In 2018-2020 (when I bought it)
I love my 2006 Forester. Bought at 50,000km 2 years ago and it's just done 100,000km and now has a new cambelt. It's super practical for me, the Labrador, tearing around the farm in and driving on the river bed. I just need an xt now, missing the power
I have a 2003 forester original transmission and engine with 389000 miles slight sweat leak finally on head gasket not worry about it no leaks on ground.
Make sure the head gasket has been changed with an mls, multi layer replacement
great review , the faults like head gasket problems are common. I agree with another commenter, Glass seals can also be problem area possibly and expensive to replace. Always buy four tires as set since most of these are AWD and dont like mismatched tires or of different tire tread depth. Solid on the highway and with all terrain tires and a lift kit it goes almost anywhere full size truck goes just not rock crawling or stream crossing deeper than 10". 2005 with the off road package is the modal I own
Awesome advice mate! - AK
98 first gen owner. the bad head gaskets are rarely a problem as most where recalled and replaced. 223,000 miles on mine but i am getting ready to tare it down and rebuild it. the bearings are starting to rattle on cold starts. i figure new rings bearing oil pump timing kit shes gonna as good as new. and of course new gaskets.
I think it's way cool that young surfer girls and guys are buying these. - I wish they were around when I was a young guy. I'm a glider pilot, and mine has done over 350,000 kms. Just a tip to the surfers and sporty types. - Don't buy the automatic version. The manual is way better, with a high and low range that the automatic doesn't have. The low range will get you through almost anything at walking speed. It'll give you more confidence to get into and out of that favourite beach with a lot more confidence - and it still has cruise control. The moonroof is great, and I sometimes sit on the centre console with my head through the roof, while towing my glider at walking speed to the launch point. Buy one, and accumulate lots of stories to bore your future grandkids with. Power on, guys!
A tip if you're looking for rust, the first (and only) spot to rust on both my SG foresters was under the plastic trim piece around the hook that the boot latches to. Super easy to remove, and it seems like water runs down the boot seal and pools around the latch.
I've owned a 06 Sti for 7 years, is a weapon
Aaron we're so jealous! What colour? - AK
@@ReDriven Black, 133k on clock, only been garaged, is immaculate inside and out.
I've got a 2006 Forester that I bought here in the US for $3,500 USD. It has 219K miles now and it's been great on the highway, in the snow, and generally a practical car to haul around my dogs, Craigslist purchases, and I've even camped inside of it a few times. Will likely just run it into the ground as major costly repairs don't seem prudent considering the high miles and what I bought it for.
nice. I found one near me around the same price and definitely thinking of picking it up. seems like for that price in this market may as well get something a little older and hope it lasts a long time than go to a dealer and way overpay with still no certainty.
Having a manual MY07 Forester XS in my family for nearly 9 years and nearly 70k kms of driving (purchased with 127k, now has 193k), it's been an awesome car so far! So good that I kept it as a hand me down from my dad and in the process of restoring it to her former glory. This is our 2nd Forester, we had a 1998 GX prior to it, which again, had nothing really major go wrong with for around 50k kms that we had that car. This one did have one mishap a couple of years ago with a nasty misfire, but that was just a bad coil. Currently though it's now got the typical head gasket leak, and it's due for a clutch, and some other things for being a nearly 18 year old car, but overall, I'm not complaining, I love this thing to bits, mostly because of the spec it has (Obsidian Black Pearl with the beige cloth interior), it's really unique, so much so it's actually hard to find interior parts in the whole of Australia, considering that one of my previous dogs enjoyed chasing trucks and literally 3 or so days after my dad buying this car, decided to bite a chunk out of the rear right door panel, and later on the driver's door card too, and have tried looking for a beige interior Forester for so long in a wrecker or any spare parts. Couldn't find a single damn one anywhere! Honestly, I think this generation of Forester, particularly the facelift is the best-looking Forester ever made, close 2nd being the original, as the pre-facelift one of these looked a bit too angry in my opinion, still a good-looking car though!
Good review. I have a 2005 JDM with the 2.0l engine. Have had it for seven years and had to replace one rear wheel bearing in that time, nothing else other than regular servicing. Pretty happy considering it only cost $10k
hey mate Im looking at a 2006 cross sports s edition (JDM one like yours i think with the same engine), is there anything I should look out for? (99,300 kms btw)
Nice, I have a 2008 JDM with the non-turbo EJ20 2.0L as well. I've also got noisy rear hub bearings haha, but I'm also really happy with it otherwise. JDM foresters!!!
@@krymsn3499 If you're looking at the naturally aspirated 2006 model, that should be the facelifted CBA-SG5 like in the video. As stated in the video, the left headlight tends to get water leakage that kills the HID ballast. You can DIY some extra sealant on the headlamps while you still can, because getting replacement headlight assemblies is quite expensive, at least here in Japan.
Rear wheel bearings tend to be weak, so listen for a droning sound at the back when driving at highway speeds. Also make sure the extra long exposed bolt connecting the rear control arms and knuckle are not too rusted out, as replacing hub bearings requires removal of this bolt, which can be a nightmare if it is corroded. Replacing wheel bearings on this car is already a nightmare enough.
Based on mileage, it's about time for a new timing belt & water pump if that hasn't been done already. It's also time for new spark plugs, which is MUCH EASIER to get to on the non-turbo boxers (hooray!). Also, my front strut mounts have very cracked rubber. This is a common problem on the Subies that doesn't seem to be a safety issue, but not pretty to look at. They are not expensive to buy new, but of course labor will cost you.
Otherwise, I think it's a great car! And luckily, head gaskets are usually not prone to failure on the N/A EJ20s. I love mine to death.
I guess I'm blessed I worked in a shop and I did two or three Subaru head gaskets a month I just pulled the whole engine out and resealed the whole thing you pull the flywheel off there's covers back there you have to reseal and the main seal new head gaskets genuine Subaru MLS new timing belt kit only gates or genuine Subaru and Japanese water pump that's the only way to fly
Mine was used by am Mechanic who took really good care of it. It has hardly any rust and was never used to offroad... apart from me😄
Plus it has an really cool Forester sticker on the bonnet.
Greetings from Switzerland✌️🇨🇭
XT 06 First owner no major problems so far
Then again l am lucky as still have 92 Brumby as my daily driver
Forester only gets used in summer because it has AC
139K should last till we go electric, hell l may even convert it.
i own a 2007 2.5 liter turbo model with 270k kilometers and counting, no head gasket failures in the horizon and as far as i know the engine wasn't rebuilt, these vehicles are more reliable than the internet may have you believe as long as you do your maintenance and dont mod it and if you do no matter what tune it accordingly and you should be fine. its surprising how good these cars are at everything except fuel economy. definitely one of the underrated cars i know and im all for it since thats the only reason i could afford it.
100% mate. - AK
The fuel economy isn't even that bad. I've got a 2008 Outback 2.5xt with 5sp auto and in the 62000 km I've had it so far (148k total) it's averaged 9.2 l/100km, with a best on a trip of 7.9. My mother's similar age and kms 2.4l RAV4 uses 11 l/100km and she drives it like the 84 year old she is. The Outback has never gone over 10 l/100km unless I'm towing. I actually had a 2017 Outback 2.5 with CVT in California for a year and it used a little less at 8.5 l/100km, but tbh I think that's because it was almost all on freeways not on NZs twisty hilly goat tracks. I must measure it one day, but I reckon once I hit the new motorway at Warkworth I'm probably averaging 7.5 l/100km for the 210 km to Karapiro. www.fuelly.com/car/subaru/outback/2008/brucehoult/1005227
Thanks for another very good and informative video. We have a 2004 XS model with 170000kms and really like it. We bought it 7 years ago. We too find it great around town and it does the job. Always check for when the timing belt is due for replacement to prevent any issues. We have done regular service and had to do a rear end rebuild a few years ago. Very good on wet roads due to to the awd. We have fitted a tow bar and electric brakes to to an Avan and go off the bitumen. It however is very thirsty on fuel when towing but can tow 1300kg.
Awesome comment Roger and thanks so much for enjoying our video. - AK
Did you mean 13 000 ? I see video it pulled truck with load of cars,. On snow and ice
Turbo versions don't suffer with head gaskets like the NA engines.
However, they can suffer if people bolt aftermarket performance parts on and then thrash the living daylights out of it, but, if you service them regularly ie regular oil and coollant changes and allow the engine to warm up before driving hard and to warm down again after driving hard before switching off then they can last forever.
Where owners go wrong with Subarus (and Toyota full size 4x4) is neglect and abuse, look after them and they'll see you out.
An easier option to replace the headlight? But incredibly expensive!!! Easiest option is to live with some fading/discolouration. We have some of the same plastic discolouration with our 2013 outback and the price to replace them is hundreds of dollars EACH. Buy some wet and dry sandpaper and a spray bottle and gently sand back and treat with a laquer over the top. Chrisfix goes over this hack beautifully. Cheap, satisfying and very effective.
I've got the 2006 XT luxury and it is the best car I ever had, the head gasket issue was fixed in 2005 and I'm hanging on to mine.
How many km does the engine have now? Thinking of picking up a new daily 2006 forestor xt 4spd premium
@@hooliganracing1629 hi, I have a 2008 2.5 XT, 95000 miles (150000 k), not a single issue. Just fitted new brembo disc brakes and pads, I will change sway bars to thicker ones, and some more suspension jobs. This is a beautiful car. Turbo? Just keep up with oil changes every 4000 miles, turbo will last forever.
I have a 2007 and had to replace the headlights and it’s going to run you about 300 USD witch is like a quarter of what I payed for it
To deal with the no CarPlay problem I just bought a 10 dollar Bluetooth adapter to put in the aux port or the original radio and it works great.
The best part about the car is that it has 8 CUP HOLDERS
Top up your oil, and change it every 8k km max. oil pick up is a weak point. maf sensor every 5 years. running a 290k km 2005 2.5xt 5mt, custom ecu map.
I have to give credit to the presenter, I like their charm and humor. Good content.
Forester was quite a popular choice. I think is quite practical actually.
Had a washing machine and mountain bike and heaps of boxes in mine this week. Extreme practicality
Yes, I'd say the Forester is the Dad truck not the middle child at all.
Biggest problem with this age Subaru is the stupid check engine cruise control oxygen sensor issue. People change alternators and cats to fix the P420 code and it’s most likely the o2 sensor.
yes. that's possibly why this one got 16 Lp100k while shooting this video. The o2 sensor is failing.
Use Denso o2 sensors or your wasting your time ,$250 aud, mark in tasmania, easiest way is to drop the manifold with cat 9 bolts and off, it will pull fault code rarely but always go off, these are very delicate. Reuse gaskets . Mine has 4oo,ooo km and sweet as, Some drive lash, no leaks, old single layer hg, tick tock
I'm the second owner of a 2002 X Manual that I bought with 49,000, which now has over 230,000km.
Yes, the older they get they do require a bit more love. But I can't fault mine at all, great fun Car to drive and to have. Beside from the standard Subaru Head Gasket issue, have only had normal consumables to replace.
What about the clutch? How many times have you replaced it?? I have one 2004 forester x. With 5 speed with 139k got it with 89k and I replaced ones no head gaskets yet by my self it was done on 2013. So what about you?
if you want a better interior there are some versions with leather interior and heated seats, mine has it and i was so pleasently surprised it doesn't rattle at all even with a huge sub in the back and honestly i didn't expect something like that without a luxury badge at this price. subaru is the best company for SUVs
I still have my forester 2004 for 4 years now still good car
They definitely chew though headlights.
Yes the are VERY capable off-road, trust me.
HlD lights in mine, no probs but l do believe they are up to 2K each
The best car I ever had beside Subaru Outback.
Hi, I'm new to your channel and at the ripe age of 30-something I'm finally preparing to buy my first car, and I already know your videos and website will be a great resource!
In particular I'm in the market for a cheap, decently reliable wagon. The 2nd-gen post-facelift Fozza was actually one of my first picks, along with the Impreza wagon or Outback from around this time. After watching this I'm still sure this particular car is probably the right choice for me, but there's certainly a lot to consider with maintenance and long term reliability, not to mention the fuel economy of these old Subarus. I definitely want to see more wagons from a variety of manufacturers from you in future to help me weigh up my options. ✨
I drive a 1999 Subaru Forester! I LOVE IT! ❤
You actually dont need an aftermarket head unit, just plug in a compatible bluetooth adapter into the cd changer output (blue) off the OEM stereo system. There are options on amazon or ebay.
I had mate with a 2016 forester with the 2.5s badge. Great handling and accelerate well...better than the equivalent cx5...
Accurate assessment,had one until it was written off,bought an gen 3 Outback which is more comfortable but less rugged and practical.
Thanks mate. - AK
Bought a Subaru Forester 2019 in Malaysia. It needs sounds proofing...super noisy with wind & rain noise like a 1942 Jeep....After owning it 1 year, it now has a clicking noise sound at the front of the dashboard....drives me bananas...
I had 2 of them, the 2nd gen and the 3rd gen, 2nd was better than the 3rd, biggest problem with them was Oil leaking and Radiator made out of Origami Paper that splits with any impact with a Mosquito 🙃 had 3 replaced under warranty. On the upside it’s perhaps the better SUV to have in the city. Great reviews you chaps ROCK 😊
I purchased a 2006 x luxury auto forester a year ago, the previous owner flogged it and the head gasket and whole engine went in 2 months, oil and coolant leaks, heaps of suspension issues, I’ve been constantly fixing it for a year including a second hand engine replacement so everyone PLEASE learn more about them before purchasing one. I was so naive and wish I saw this video earlier 😂😅
Yeah right on bro. I bought mine a couple of months ago with 183,000km. Saying the previous owner flogged it was a massive understatement. The car had crazy oil leaks. 10 days later, the alternator was overcharging the power systems of the car every time I went for 60km/hr. Service guy said had I driven just a couple more minutes, the power systems of the car would've been KAPUT. So, learning from our mistakes and checking the car before purchase is a great piece of advice.
An awesome fix for headlight condensation on any car (not just the Subaru Forester), is to take out the bulb and get some warmish air blown into the opening. You can use a hair dryer on its coolest setting or even a vacuum cleaner which has option to blow and suck.
That doesn't fix it. As to get
condensation in the headlight. It means the seal is not working and letting water droplets in. Dodgy way to fix it. Is to drill a small hole in the bottom of the headlight. To let out the watet / condensation.
2011 X reporting in. Can confirm smoke when hitting the gas hard coming out the back. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD CHECK THE OIL EVERY 1K MILES. Had to replace motor because my Forester burns oil, luckily had it warrantied.
I have 98 forester first gen with 430 000 km never have head gasket problem
If yours is a 2.0, you won't have the head gasket problems these later ones have, only the 2.5 SOHC N/A engines have those problems.
I bought one this January. Here in Romania it costs me 1100 euro for a full engine rebuild(pistons, rings and all other required parts) in case of engine failure. The rear struts and upgraded springs cost me 200 euro in total. I bought the car for 5000 euros with 252.000 km and i freakin' love it. Off road this vehicle is a monster straight out of the box. I love it ! Parts are very cheap here.
salut Alex! ce consum ai? rural si urban
@@mihaibalan1917 urban cam 12-14. In afara orasului intre 8 si 10.
On so many reviews you say "there is a small spot to store something in the door" or "there is a small storage spot in the door - but I don't know what you'd fit in there..." dude, that is not a storage box, it's the door grab handle - the one spot you grab the door to close it! So many of your videos have you describing the door grab handle as a storage area. In this one you did it again on the rear door @ 7:00-7:01. Grab handle - not storage.
So you store your hand while you close the door
Owning 2nd gens..... I prefer the pre facelift cheaper to road tax here in the UK plus I like sone of the Gen 1 carry overs feautures like the folding front arm rests and no stupid expensive wind turbine device for emissions on the facelift version! I have the turbo versions. Worth remapping for me. Running at 1 bar mine put down 256hp at wheels and 268 ft/lbs. The 2.5 is torquey and being the shape of a brick not designed for top speed but low down acceleration. My 5 speed XT manual has done 170,000 miles now and is burning some oil. But my imported Forester STI is still tight at 180,000 miles. Drivers window motor on these bad design...water gets in them.
pulled mine from a field in rural NY, 195k miles I'm the 2nd owner, a little elbow grease and some parts it still runs like a sewing machine
absolutely the Flippin best car. I've had mine 2 years. 195k miles. only 2 problems. I believe the pressure plate got stuck l%l/rusted to the flywheel....started it about halfway through my 5-10 minute morning warmup, and it stalled. I was like, what the f. Went outside, and the clutch pedal was stuck. My shifter or whatever u call it wouldn't budge outa neutral. I kinda forced it into first, cranked it up, and it went into reverse, and itbwouldntbmove outta 1st gear. I let it sit for like two days. Then, I intentionally popped my clutch. Real fast release of my Clutch pedal while still stuck in 1st, i l started her back up and it was back to normal. wtfbwas that but for the age bruh. oh and then muffler rusted off while sliding around in snow for fun
Oh and I just wanted to say at four minutes and eight seconds of this video... Don't take this fool's advice... "If there's any signs of rust walk away".. They are kind of old cars dude...
Have had the 2006 XT turbo for 6 years and love it but just upgraded to the 2011 SH for a more modern car. Hard to find but found a stock one after months of searching. New subscriber
As an owner of this tank, I'm quite happy with almost everything. It has "medium" ground clearance, which frees me forever from all damn border stones. It's VERY easy to enter a car - barely bent and jump in a seat! VERY convenient after any "low" sedans, not saying about sportcars. 2.5T is fast enough to not make you feel boring. Back side has a lot of space even to move wash machine! You don't need to call any trucks, just move stuff yourself. Yes, this car likes oil and petrol, but hell, it's NORMAL to pay for speed! I prefer to spend +10 bucks on petrol, but drive like a wind, than "saving money", moving like a 3-legs turtle. Remember - you won't be "rich" if you save 10 bucks, so don't be stupid.
Drawbacks are: 1) clearance - better to have it higher (at least 20cm) 2) more intellectual battery management - you cannot leave car for 2 weeks and start. Pity. 3) Frameless door glasses. Listen, it sucks! It's unreliable and gives no profits in usage. 4) Better suspension. Current one transfers all noise directly to salon(cabin). 5) Archaic CD player. WHAT?? In 2006 you install CD player? F**** yourself, japanese idiots! USB was invented 10 years ago before you made a car! 6) Fuel. You definitely waste more than it worth. My "reprogrammed" 2.5T eats 20L. Sure it can be way less. It's not about money, but petrol tank - it's too small for car appetite. 7) Better dashboard - current one sucks. You cannot install anything on the board! I need at least smartphone + separate GPS + HUD. All of 'em need strong, easy to mount, non-slippery, FLAT surface. WTF I don't have it now - IDK.
But despite what I said, I highly recommend to buy this model! Universal car for family and enjoyment.
I just purchased a similar one JDM from Japan 2005 (69,000km, 2.0XS), and it's yet to arrive here in Tanzania. I will come back with my comments after a couple of months of using it. Cheers
Mines got a cassette player and 6 stack cd, very nice indeed
good comprehensive review
Thanks mate! - AK
headgasket and the rear view mirror seals are the worst on these cars. Everything else is actually solid! I have a 2006 well maintained that just lost it's head gasket at 100k miles. So be mindful of that for some reason Japan did cheap on this when that's not usually what they are known for. So about 2k repair with valves and heads machined .Far worth it when i know I can get much much longevity out of it with flexibility .
Great car! I have a 2004 Forester X, bought it 5 years ago for $7.5k with 80,000km, I've put another 100,000km on it since, completely hassle free. I'd heard about head gasket issue from others but apart from regular servicing mine's only cost me a water pump and a new a/c compressor. Fuel consumption started at 10L/100km, more like 13L/100km now with lift and bigger tyres, up to 15L/100km when fully loaded for camping (full roof basket, second battery, fridge etc.). Don't know how you got as high as 16L/100km unladen?!
Bought my 03 in 2017 for $2300 with 170k miles. Up to 235k now. So far so good.
thanks for the info, mine seems similiar around 13l/100 pumped tyres ,no racks, steady throttle etc........ little spewing ... cost pf petrol an all, less galavanting
My mum has one of these had it since almost new we have done 180k kms on it and it’s now starting to cost us money. we have done the head gasket the timing belt and a wheel bearing. We have the Manual and have done the clutch. It has had the aircon regassed several times including just yesterday and the aircon compressor is on its way out. They go through headlights globes like butter we replace one every 6 months. And the driver window is dodgy It has been a great car beautiful to drive it was our family car until we got our Pajero in 2014 and now it’s our town car. Like said it isn’t fuel efficient but it’s really good on the beach.
I had a 2.0 Anniversary Edition for a few years and loved it. I've bought a new XV now and I love it, but I do miss the Forester a bit. The main reason I got rid of it was that it started getting electrical gremlins and the battery drained so I had to keep jumping it and couldn't be arsed figuring it out, so I sold it on.
Just the type of reviews I like; Keep up the good work. Subscribed...
Cheers Andre! - AK
I have a 2003 forester n/a and it has had head gasket leaks and a fuel leak which I fixed by tightening up the clamp and a coolant leak which I fixed by tightening the clamp. It’s the little things with these cars. I do like the forester but don’t trust it much. I only have about 140k miles on it at this point.
The older Subarus are the best you just don't know if you have not owned an old one I pulled trees across two acres with a 93 legacy trees a lot bigger than the car the older ones you had a lever on the console you just pulled up and it locked it in they were like tanks you could push snow with them
I actually just found one of these on a lot this morning near my house. It's an '05 2.5 x. The dealership is closed, so I have no idea on miles. They want $4,300 US for it. I appreciate you pointing out what there is to look for on these.
In my experience in a hot climate the thermostats should be changed preventatively. Perhaps every 4 or 5 years. If you wait for it to fail you can have much more expensive repairs. Facelift headlights develop leaks.
Great review. Thank you very much
YES! Thank you
I have a 2005 2.5L NA 5spd manual variant and it has 340k on the clock.
Apart from a head gasket and valve guides at 140k it just keeps on going. Much to the bemusement of friends and family.
As mentioned above, check oil regularly between service intervals plus swap the tranny oil too or it can become stuck between gears.
Can go mildly off road and not worry about possible damage because it’s not new.
Also has a specific AWD ratio lever missing from newer variants.
So why buy a new model? 👌🏻
If you put the back seats down, does the back become long enough for an average man to sleep in?
Easily
The bloopers are getting even more funny if that was even possible haha. Would love to see the Citroen C4 hatch reviewed, such an interesting beast.
Oh Liam, the bloopers won't stop anytime soon, I'm bloody terrible at remembering what I've written! Yes, the C4 is a great idea. We'll get into trying to track one down to review and film. - AK
I own a forester and am surprised how good it is.
thanks for this video i am looking at a forester . lots of handy information
Our pleasure Karen. - AK
XT has a 2.5 turbo, its quiiiiick! I love mine!
Rubber in the front window mirror shrinks and causes annoying wind noise
And these have cam cover leakages rather than head gaskets
Nice video .new follower
I would stay well clear of diesel variants... had a nightmare experience with the DPF, which apparently is also quite common... problem was never able to get fixed.
We never received the diesels here but great advice Jasen. - AK
@@ReDrivendiesel outback was pus in the city. DPF needed cleaning monthly or there was a boost leak somewhere nobody found. Either way it’s someone else’s problem now
Love them!
Should i buy one? The same as the one on your video with 370 000 full service history with agents, i wanna use it off-road on weekends…Help
Only the EJ 2.5L naturally aspirated engine had the head gasket issues.
Dying to watch the Gen 3 jimny review!
We're dying to do a Gen 3 Jimmy review! Good news is, we have one lined up very soon. - AK
I have had mine since 20k on the clock and run it on LPG
The gen 3 Forester did away with all those handy cubbies and cup holders. There is little room for "stuff". I really don't like my 2011 now that I've had it for 3 years. It aggravates me on a near daily basis. And it burns oil like it's gas.
Good car! Does the job and cheap! Well until it needs a 4k head gasket replacement :P
Well shot Sam!
Only some model has Gasket issue from abused drivers
At what km mark did it need a new head gasket?
@@Honestandtruth007 which model? I abuse mine.
@@violetflame22 mine is an 06 and had it done about 180,000kms... That era all need them done eventually. The coating on the metal fails and they start leaking oil slowly. It's nothing to do with how it's driven, it is probably more to do with age.
@@thatdudematt Awesome thanks, I plan to upgrade before I hit 180km
Thanks for the awesome review! Very informative! Planning to buy one as a run around car. I'm also an avid mountain biker so I might take it for the occassional long drives as well. This has been my dream project car for the longest time but the 16 litres/100kms consumption made me think twice! Any same model owners here that can convince me otherwise? Appreciate any advice + or -😊 Cheers!🍺
As I said in my comment, having one in the family for nearly a decade and driven 70k kms since purchase pretty much daily, it's been pretty reliable. As long as you don't beat the shit out of it or neglect it and keep up with servicing, it will be a good car for you!
Just remember to check your oil regularly they do burn a lot of oil.
And they don’t like to be driven like race cars.
Drive em nice and do proper maintenance and they will last forever.
I’ve seen multiple of these cars with over 400,000 kms and still driving great