A Historian Plays/Reacts to: "The Last Tiger" - A WW2 Battlefield Historical Breakdown
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Unfortunately they made Last Tiger before the Pacific update came out. A lot of the US gear is ported from the MP where the only factions at the time were German and British, and they didn’t bother going back and changing the mission to include things like the Garand and Bazooka. Guess they whipped together the US uniforms on rush order, as the Last Tiger came out after the game launched.
This!
Well last time I checked, just because the Pacific update came doesn't mean they have the right models to port from MP to the campaign. Pacific is another war alone, the uniforms from the US in Pacific is very different compared to those in Europe. Anyone who knows history knows that Marines fought in the Pacific and the Army in Europe.
The Marines always get the hardest front to fight.
When the Pacific update did come out the Americans only have their Pacific/Marine-styled uniforms. Nothing for the US Army in North Africa or Europe.
@@aveteranplayer6403 The US Army fought in Western/Central Europe, North Africa, and the Pacific. The Marines were often outnumbered by the Army presence in the Pacific. Sorry to burst your bubble
@@EnigmaEnginseer I mean I know those facts is not like I'm saying anything different but. What I'm trying to say that the rough front and rough parts of the Pacific theater got to be the Marines one. They did put a hell of a job there, However the western front is where the army shines more imo. Also, my favorite front story is gotta be Italy ngl since is where my country fought in WW2.
There is a theory that the tank commander still lives. As you listen carefully, you hear that the gunshot is one of the M3 Grease Guns, on the otherhand, the MP40 was already out of ammo, if you hear it correctly. As it states, after the war, the tank commander is released from prisoner camp and started living in the US. As in Battlefield 3/4, the character you play or meet has the same last name as the tank commander.
was the character a tank commander of an abrams?
Well that's nifty
Sergeant Jonathan Miller in Battlefield 3. A tank operator. He was captured by the PLR, an Iranian terrorist organization. Solomon, a CIA informant who had gone rogue, then executed him on camera.
It's entirely possible that Muller was captured and decided after the war to get as far away from Germany as possible. Instead, starting a family in the US.
@@walnzell9328 jesus christ the bf3 and bf4 stories were awful.. blatant attempts at trying to ride off the success of the call of duty campaigns
I wished they had included more stories from the "other side" in titels like BF1 where they went on a lot with the Entende and kinda never came close to try and approach the Central Powers. From the German Empire to the Multi-Ethnic Habsburg Monarchy and Ottoman Empire's and even the Balkans with Bulgaria there definitly isnt a lack of stories that could had been told. Expecially in a war who costed millions of lives to both sides. Still glad they took that step on BFV even though BF1 had a greater better potential.
That was quite the missed opportunity with BF1. And one that is quite puzzling, as the contemporary understanding of that war (and one that BF1 clearly shares) is that it was a war with no "correct side", just a slaughter between imperialist powers. So ut would've been interesting to see that represented through the stories more than just mere mention
@@pedroholsbach8592 the tchecoslovac side/Otoman would be the most interesting
@@warbrain1053 It would've been cool to see the German perspective of the fight against tanks too, considering how overwhelming that must have been for a common soldier to see those gigantic machones moving towards you
@@pedroholsbach8592 Well tbf as an Austrian I kinda would have liked to see more stuff coming from "our side" since WW1 had a big impact around here and kinda felt that EA went a bit "entente good side" (although that's just the feeling I got personally)
@@wolfgang6517 same.
Gruß aus Deutschland.
22:53 to be fair in the first cutscene of this campaign the commander asks the driver if they have their new radio guy yet and he does tell him no so at least they addressed the fact they don't have a radio operator
It may not be a true story. It may be an artistic expression of what happened to the Tiger found damaged & abandoned in Berlin's Gardens.
But this story always sticks with me because it really is showing how horrible it was for anyone in those last days of the European Theatre. The Story of Peter Müller & the Last Tiger will always hold a place dear to me and remind me of the often forgotten part of war.
[Edit]: Yes. The Tiger in Berlin's Gardens is a reference to Animarchy's video on the History of The Tiger 1.
We see the downfall of everybody's sanity as the war draws its end. The end quote really drives the point!
I hate how people simp for a fictional character who fought for Nazi domination over Europe. I hope u guys realize if Muller succeeded in his job, you would all be dead. Right? RIGHT?
@@Ahmed-wb7ko I hate how people take what others say out of context. If you'd look, we're stating we're sympathizing with a part of War forgotten that always affected both sides up until after that point in history.
We're sympathizing over the part of war where you have to watch as all your friends die, as your country is laid to ruin, as almost everyone you ever knew has their lives cut short for the selfish goals of the arrogant and monstrous people in charge.
We are not "simping over Nazis" but rather praising this mission and Game for taking the risk to show us a part of war often overlooked despite being one of it's crucial parts.
What happens to the survivors after the war. And more importantly; "Regardless of what a war is fought over or when, they all have one thing in common. In exchange for their very existence.... They must always be paid.... In human lives."
Next time you say something like this... Please look into the context and meaning of things. And we're well aware if he succeeded we'd all be dead. But like I said; We aren't supporting Nazis.
They may have fought for a twisted ideology, but for most of the men involved... They were not die hards of the cause. They served served Germany. Not Hitler. And the tragedy of Müller, along with everyone who was REAL in history who went through something similar deserve to not be forgotten.
Yeah it is horrible that nothing here makes sense. If you want to play more realistic games play older bfs and cods not this shit please
This
That feeling that you are driving and fighting with one of the most fearsome armor in the war, surviving a meaningless and inevitable defense, and to finally felt the defeat's hand grabbing your shoulder and just ready to give up..
...only then to be relieved/denied (depending on your perspective) by another thing they didnt mention that often
*Youth. Brainwashing.*
Imagine this :
A mission in which you play as a soldier of the minor powers of the Axis (Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria...). There is this 2-3 minutes introduction about how you joined the military before german pressure on your state and before fascism. You are deployed on the eastern front and the first missions are the classic move to capture objectives and clean districts, but after you reach Sebastopol the 2 lasr missions are only organised retreats or taking buildings but discovering the advanced posts have fallen.
In short, imagine experiencing defeat in a video game. I think a lot of games focus too much on empowering the player so you can only win. Even here in the Last Tiger, you do not loose as a player, you have wrecked and slowed the Allied advance. You have the satisfaction of having been this mythical unstoppable beast. And Peter Müller gets killed by a clear bad guy but he was a good man.
I like this idea. Give the player true defeat. Not in a satisfying way either. Just true despair as victory slips away as the war drags on.
Imagine a game series where each game focuses on a certain country of the conflict. As it shouldn't have any multiplayer it could instead produce missions including army, air force, paratroopers and navies of these countries and not in the battlefield or cod way either where you play as an aircraft for like 2 minutes, I mean entire airial missions and naval encounters. Hell finally give us a fully explorable aircraft carrier.
i always wanted this ... a game/story that showed the loosing side, like no matter what you can do in the battle it will be lost and all you can do is try to get you and your buddies out alive.
I love this. Tho about peter a bunch of fans theorize he still lived
I'd totally be ok with DICE and EA making this a DLC pack for minor axis nations so long as the quality is incredible
In my opinion, this DLC mission was the best thing Battlefield 5 has done. Despite the controversy and “how dare you force players to play as the bad guys” they made this DLC and they’re probably the only AAA-studio FPS game in recent years where you play a Singe Player campaign as a German Wehrmacht unit. At least to my knowledge.
As a German myself and a personal history that is connected to the Wehrmacht tank force, I appreciate them showing off the constant conflict between duty and fanatics, beliefs and logic and of course the constant fear the average German soldier had to face during the final stages of the war where every random SS wanker could call you a traitor or coward and have you hanged or shot at the next lamppost and put on display.
Thanks for playing and showing us this mission M8
Well, to be fair there's no "good guy" "bad guy" in a war.
@@lust1875 whenever your gassing and mass murdering a people, there are bad guys.
@@lust1875 WW2 was definitely the closest though. Germany had an overwhelming amount of bad guys
@@solthegamer3769 The allies were actually worse, especially the soviets, mass murdering and enslaving million including my country
@@solthegamer3769 Also americans bombing civilian german hospital cities with no military presence in them
The thing that makes me love this specific DLC is the tone it goes for, It really gets across that late-war depression and defeatism, That no matter how many traitors you put down, No matter how you dress up your troops, The fancy speeches you make, That even if every man in that City had killed a hundred americans, That no matter how many Tanks that Tiger could have crippled, That had that Command Post stood and every american in that city died on its walls, It would still be a defeat.
Too many stories try to go for that tone of every last man in perfect unity fighting to the bitter end until the Regime fell, But that doesnt quite fit, The Regime fell long before the final Bullet and everyone except perhaps the most meth-crazed Youth member knew it.
The regime fell when Hitlee decided he wanted to destroy every person that wasn’t aryan in Europe and to take on everyone
Imagine seeing a Tiger Tank bearing down and thinking, "I've got this, I'll kill it with my submachine gun!".
They attacked because the Tiger was disabled, so they went for the opportunity to capture the tank or subdue the crew.
You can always try to take a tank with submachinegun and grenade. All you need to do is to blind the crew by wrecking the periscopes and viewing slits and they dont see where they are going and are due that immobilized, or shoot the foolish commander that is out of his hatch and drop a grenade inside. This is reason why in urban areas tanks are really just vulnerable tin boxes if there is no infantry support. Plenty of things infantrymen can do to stop a tank, if there is no infantry shooting at them. Even if there is there is still ways, like placing logs between the tracks to jam them up, breaking into engine compartment, where grenade or hell just knife can do lots of damage. Break the coolant lines and it will eventually over heat and shut down, witch point there is not much that can be done to defend it. This is also reason why "you dont need guns, when government has tanks and aircraft to use against you" is bullshit argument and more over reinforces why people should be just as armed as the government.
what the other guy said
@@Hellsong89 The people also lack other little things, like strike aircraft, CAS aircraft. secure communications, artillery, MLRS systems and a swathe of other military equipment you conveniently forget to mention when you bring up your little dig about US gun laws.
Fun fact, I don't give a toss about your gun laws. I really could not care less, so keep your nose out of ours.....
@Hellsong89
Your government argument is stupid, assuming the entire military stays loyal, they have massed artillery, infantry and drones. You are coping to support the 2A 😂
The only thing I imagine when you repair a tank in battlefield is the crew putting wooden planks on the holes like its sea of thieves
the sound of the wrenches and such could be interpreted in that context as them attaching another metal plate over the hole.
35:38
It may not be too far fetched to have a Lewis gun. It looks rusted so I assume that it was pulled out from stocks and issued to the Volkssturm. Alot of old and dated captured equipment was used by the unit.
Some notable examples would be G98s and G88s seeing service, as well as WW1 maxim guns. In the battle of Berlin, two WW1 era landships were used as armored ammo carriers as well, they were originally taken from russian museums as war trophies.
Yeah there is actually a photo depicting a group of Volkssturm members with one of them carrying a Lewis gun.
i always thought they tried using them for extra firepower.
"It's a VTuber." So accurate I love it!!! People at first could not pronounce Mori Calliope's name right, but I, knowing she has the same name as the Calliope Sherman, was and will always be able to. This was great! This war story always gives me goosebumps.
I still don't know if it's like Cal-eye-oh-pee or Cal-ee-oh-pe
@@alexandertoucan4956 both are valid. its supposed to be the former, but the later is how her name is pronounced in katakana.
Idk how many got his reference but damn daddy stepped on him
Haha, finally found people who got the reference
@@instantbeansoup That Calliope sent him straight to herself.
Ah, yes. The Sherman Calliope, with its rockets known for their characteristic "Guh~!" sound when launched at a target. Very terrifying.
They had horrible accuracy in real life and yet in this game every single one of them finds their target.
"Guh~" kinda just sounds like the sound you'd make after getting punched in the stomach.
I like how The Last Tiger manages to talk about Nazism without ever even calling it by name or showing a single swastika. For all the criticism of "self censorship" this game got, it's a really interesting feat
@@TonyBustaroni Idk how you can be light handed with the literal nazis. There sort of the benchmark of evil for most people.
Not even Nazism it was just about a Tank Crew followed towards the view of a Commander who was probably the stories version of Erwin Rommel, the battlefield company was pissing themselves when they were making the story because it was about Germans, that was the whole thing that had them in fear, germans, Not about the Reich, the Story, The vehicle, it was Just the characters Part, hence why they refuse to allow out the One pilot for the Bf 109 that they said they'd add because it's about a German luftwaffe's perspective
@@KommandantGSR How did the Nazism part of the story fly so high over your head?
"Interesting feat" My ass. All it was just the game developers being too chickenshit to show us the Nazis fighting alongside the Wehrmacht and calling them out for their crimes. It was a blatant form of unnecessary self censorship for an M-rated game that tries to make itself seem serious and mature but fails at it.
@@rorschach1985ify It did call then out for their crimes. Mostly against their own people in the case of this story, since it is from the german perspective and at the very end of the war tho
"The Luftwaffa are bombing their own city's" *Heavy Belken Breathing*
Don't give EA any ideas, or BF6 will be Russia vs. US with neo-nazis instigating the war from the shadows, hoping the war would weaken them both.
This is an old comment but i won't let Ace Combat ref goes uncheck 😂
This was such an effective campaign, it actually made you empathise with just how hopeless things were, and how brainwashed and indoctrinated young children who were forced into the army were
That final scene, really hits, just something about the younger guy killing his superiors. You could see he was losing all reason.
He was a child. You can hear it in the way he begs Muller to lift his spirits. He desperately wants everything to be okay again. To be like it was in 1940 again. When the papers only talked of victory. His dad was probably drafted and killed, ending in an unmarked grave same as him for a regime that only saw him as a figure on a combat report.
For all the bluster of the Nazi ideology. All the talk, all the pizzazz, he was the kind of man it produced, and that's something truly sad.
So there is a really incredible book about that Pershing and Panther crews that dueled at Cologne. It’s called “Spearhead” by Adam Makos. I definitely recommend checking it out!
I grew up down the street from the gunner on that Pershing. As well as German and American war vets. I remember as a kid, at WW2 ceremonies you’d see old men in their German uniforms next to old men in their American uniforms. Strange, how we slaughtered eachother but as soon as the rifles fell silent we mourned with eachother. Us PA Deutsch know this well, we were on both sides of that war
Really an underrated book, plenty of research was done into it and it puts everything together perfectly
100%, would recommend anyone to read it. A very somber and poignant book.
The Last Tiger to me was a lesson about a multitude of things, but it's primary one was showing that there were people involved in this war. They weren't all the same, but they all were people. It was a mission about a commander wanting to get his crew out alive while still being able to keep their heads high that they did the right thing. I think it did a decent job of this, certainly more than any other of the main missions and more than Call of Duty normally does. This mission to me wasn't "Some valiant last stand" it was "We have to get home." and that to me is what really sold it for me. It was a somber reminder of what it took to be on any side of a war, and what you are doing when you choose to fire at the enemy.
Watch the game industry go barrelling back into stereotypical goofy nazi bad guys without a second thought
@@thehypest6118 yes because that's the truth lol! The majority of the German nation and its armies, paramilitaries, and whatever shithead organizations it formed took part in war crimes or were complicit. There's like only 100 recorded cases of people refusing to take part in war crimes so 0.000555555556% of the Wehramact. If you can't figure this out it means that 99 percent of the people were shitheads who deserve death.
@@duke1654 how was your day today man?
@@thehypest6118 mine was alright thanks
This has got to be my favorite War Story in BF5, and not just because I love tanks and this is the tank War Story. But because it shows thing from the German point of view finally, it is beautiful in it's story telling, and it actually is good compared to the other which were mediocre at best.
@@gluehfunke1547 It's something, you atleast have to give it that. This is probably the closet we'll ever get to any kind of German campaign in any WW2/WW1 game ever.
@@inductivegrunt94 The Last tiger was one single greatest war story across any ww2 title. Is not about the german view or anything its because they finally reach up the tone the game was supposed to be. The Last Tiger story is just as good as the entire campaign of BF1 and Cod WAW which for me is very hard to top the grittyness and dark tone of both games. The fact that one war story can match up with these two shows how incredible the writting was for this story. Showing the German from 2 different perspectives is a very good point to make flash out of other stories.
Like the tank crew was not the same as it was at the end of this story, that's what makes the story feel more human.
I remember watching the cut scenes of the Last Tiger years ago, I don't even know how popular the game back then, but man it was so great.
17:41 that's definely a Lee-Enfield No.4 MK.1 beacuse of the front sight and "Spike" type bayonet.
They also didn't have a model for the M1 Garand until the Pacific theater multiplayer DLC.
This game was just so rushed.
But I remember they didn't release The Last Tiger upon the launch of the game. Someone really wanted this story to be in a playable state. And I'm glad they did.
That's what happens when you lock one of the major allied powers of WW2 behind DLC but also remember you set a mission in the campaign in a battle that involves that major power, so you just throw together a random kit that looks enough like the real kit from faraway if you squint. DICE threw all quality control out the window when they shat out this game.
Given Muller was narrating his story I like to believe he survived
the gunshots we here at the end might be grease gun shots, meaning there is a chance the shots we heard were the americans shooting the youth when he tried to aim at his commanding officer who was surrendering. the reason they keep it ambiguous is because it doesn't matter. in the end, muller had given up. for him, the war was over.
It could've been a 'during' sort of narration style. Still, someone said the gun that fired sounded like a Grease Gun. Entirely possible he was shot before he had a chance to shoot Mueller. Which would be rather poignant; Mueller had to see all of his crew die, for one reason or another.
He didn't die he lived and was taken as a POW. You can actually play as his grandson Miller in BF3 who is also a tank commander and it is confirmed that Miller is truly his grandson.
After seeing the anachronistic guns being used in the current war, everything from MP40's to duel mounted Maxim Guns with Red Dot sights mounted to them, seeing a captured WW1 Lewis gun in Germany is 100% possible
This is my personal interpretation of why the Americans are using the German Artillery and AT, I personally interpret it as the Americans went in assaulted these positions and turned the guns against the German counter attack since to give themselves the best chance to hold on to the positions as possible.
I know the reason was because they didn't want to spend the money and time modelling and animating said weapons for the Americans for a single mission, but you know I think my interpretation is cooler.
I've seen volkssturm use the lewis gun
@@ilo3456 and that feels like something any soldier would do.
charge/attack the enemy position route the defender or killing them off.
look perfectly functional weapons and the enemy is 50 feet away might as well turn them 180 degree and fire until they run out of ammo.
heck in older COD games capturing enemy equipment and using it to defend the mission objective was a staple in older COD games.
I remember in COD 1 or COD2 one mission where you was orderd to capture a bridge in holand as paratroopers.
and the first order commands gives after capturing it is telling the firendly (not player) to grab any machine gun and anti tank weapon. later you man the 88.
Yes this is supposed to be Cologne. The equivalent of "Chicago Typewriter" in German that you tried to pronounce would be "Kölner Schreibmaschine" ;)
Aside from that, display of insanity of war given or take, modern World War 2 shooters just don't put any effort anymore in regards to historical accuracy which is very sad to see as we now have the technology necessary to fully depict the horrors, drama and absurdity of our own history.
I mean, in BFV they completely cut out the efforts and sacrifices of British and, more importantly as they are direct neighbours of DICE's home country and underrepresented in media, Norwegian soliders and invented a stupid mother-daughter plot. Why though the real history is much more powerful...
Aside from that apparently the SBS consisted of convicts and a lot more stuff like this ...
Actually the shootdr Enlisted is preety decent.I went to berlin and was able to navigate through the city because of it
6:32 is probably due to the fact that some Germans wanted the Empire back, I remember that quite a few German Generals wanted to be Prussian not German. So I will take a big guess and say the civilians may want that too.
That doesn't make much sense at all.
They're re-used from Battlefield 1 because they had no models for German Reich flags. Only hanging banners.
@@walnzell9328 another reason is the game wouldn't be sold in Germany two if they used the Nazi Swastika
@@terrencehill4716 I know about that.
But there was a time where Swastikas wouldn't be put in any version of a game.
They used to have separate versions of World War II games. One for North America, and one for Europe. Because all Europeans had to deal with Germany's problems for some reason.
But this game and Call of Duty World War II got so much flak for just not bothering and putting a Baltic Cross on every flag for all versions. Not to comply with German law. But to avoid offending any possible paying customers.
I think CoD Vanguard put them back into the North American release. Or maybe they didn't. The multiplayer is definitely devoid of Swastikas just in case you're playing against people from the EU.
And then you get games like Sniper Elite that have Swastikas in all versions, except in Germany. Or maybe they're allowed to put them in the release for the UK because they're not in the EU anymore and therefore not subject to the import laws that for some reason favor Germany.
@@terrencehill4716 But that doesn't explain why they have imperial German flags. They could've had the Reich's flag with the Baltic cross. They did it for the banners.
I am 99% sure it's because they didn't model a flag in time for the game's release.
8:58 the reason here is that was that greyhounds were not in the game until the end of development as far as i am aware this is also why the Americans use a bunch more British stuff then they should and even some German stuff too
I like how after I watch the c-47 ju-88 joint formation I get recommended a video titled "what if the US joined the axis instead of the Allies"
the officer dropping his cross hits so deep as a german
the cross doesnt stand for the nazis , it stands for the prussian spirit and germany as a whole
when he dropped it he also dropped all faith in the fatherland
this scene hits so much deeper for a german than anyone else can understand
Didn’t think about that, thank you for sharing.
I want more well made ww2 games. Something with a harsh tone dealing with the horrific conditions during many battles (particularly eastern front) where enemies weren't as much a concern as not freezing or starving to death... would make for a super unique and interesting story about the failure of humanity that is war.
Turn the movie "Stalingrad" into a game and there you go. Honestly though that is a good idea for a game which similar games have seen success with (This War of Mine being the best example of surviving the horrors of war)
If i remember, this campaign was basically there at launch for the game so they didn't have the models that would be more appropriate (something like lost pacific brought more uniforms and guns)
It was released with the first major update for the game
The Last Tiger was honestly the most touching campaign I played. It gives you the idea of what it was to control such a powerful machine and blindly follow orders just to lose friends and be called a traitor once you see through the lies.
I don't think it was a matter of 'seeing through the lies' as much as realising it was, indeed, over, and dying then would've been entirely pointless and needless.
One of my favorites game missions EVER, the soundtrack is just amazing, the voiceacting is really good, and the simple fact of driving a Tiger I is incredible. Sure, its not 100% historically accuratte, but its authentic, and i love it anyway.
This is not Köln (Cologne) the Cathedral of Köln has 2 Towers not one, i think this is Aachen it was the first Citiy the Americans reached that was on German ground but at the end with the bridge it could be cologne but honestly i just think they mixed some stuff up there
I guess it’s a fictional town in the ruhrarea
3:50 thats a knights cross around his neck. The iron cross first class is worn on the chest with the iron cross 2nd class being worn as a ribbon in the soldiers 2nd button hole (this was different for soldiers of the panzerwaffe, they wore the ribbon in the middle left (their left) lower triangle lookin part on collar (I think it’s the lapels? I don’t know clothing terminology))
It's clear that much like Battlefield 1, DICE is portraying an stylized diesel punk version of WWII where historical accuracy is just "Meh"
someone who finally understands that you can't shit on BFV for it's historical shenanigans while worshipping BF1
this was a really good mission, especially that ending
It is so fucking good, I just can't help but feel a stinging feeling in my chest when Kertz gets killed, it feels like he might at least make it out and surrender, but no he got killed by the Hitler Youth dude and it fucking sucks, same with Hartmann he probably saw the American forces and went for cover or simply he kept going forwards to recon and later he came back to his Tank missing and was just caught and treated like a deserter and hung despite doing his duty.
Like it all just fucking sucks for the Germans in the city, anyone who doesn't want to die and wants to stop fighting is killed by their own countrymen and even if you fight until you can't fight anymore you might just get killed anyways.
The campaign was done before the Americans were in the game, before the Pacific Update (Which also replace the british in a couple european maps) added American vehicles, weapons and even their uniform, but they never went back to war stories and replace it since the multiplayer is what sells nowadays.
So speaking of the duel at Cologne Cathedral, I have a friend who has met the gunner of that Pershing on more than one occasion. I hope to meet him as well one day, but I suppose we shall see.
These are the types of videos that I found your channel on. Would love to see them more frequently!
You must have been in war Thunder for your tiger to die that quickly
In regards to the STG.
At least be thankful it's the right model and hasn't been molested much
Loved the video. Your helping me learn more about ww2 and so forth. thx
“ I protested to him I didn’t take anything”
Maybe not he said, “but you were there”. This quote has always stuck with me as a perfect way to describe all the German men who thought they were fighting for there country rather then fighting for one of the most evil powers the world has ever known.
They literally discussed not having a radio operator in the opening cutscene.
The Knight's Cross is around the neck, the Iron Cross 1st Class is on the left breast, and the 2nd class would be worn during the actual ceremony or special occasions, however the ribbon would be in the 2nd button hole on the tunic.
As you said, we rarely get Game Kampaings in the World wars, set on the German side. The fact that this is one alone makes it good, and the execution is just wonderfull. Ignoring the inacuracies, the presentation is just amazing, from the Music to the cinematics to the ACTING! The Final scene never fails to amaze me in all of these aspects.
The setup of the Crew reminds me a bit of the Submarine Novel "Auf Feindfahrt mit U 139" wich tells a wonderfully executed fictional story of a Submarine Crew in WW2, from the German Perspective. A Must read IMO for any History Buff or Naval enthusiast.
Anyway enough rambling. This German thanks you for making this Video and wishes you a good day.
I remember watching an old training video with my dad about safely scavenging enemy munitions, explaining functions of items like the firing modes of the MP-40, and the traps that could be put out to stop allies from getting a little greedy (like the pre-primed stick grenade that would immediately explode if you tried to arm it.)
I am kinda surprised that Dice dose not have a stock set of American WW2 assets since so many WW2 game are focused on America.
"It's a VTuber!"
Now that's something I didn't expect to hear
on the tank dual you talked about in 26:15 , I heard that the panther didn't fire first because the commander thought it was another German tank because no allied tank would look like that he thought
This is true. The Panther crew were baffled by the Pershing even though they knew a tank was coming. The Pershing crew seized the brief advantage, kept moving and chanced a shot on the move.
By this time in the war Germany had barely enough soldiers left look at Hartman he looks like he’s 14 poor kid
when you realize this is the last campaign mission battlefield ever made
The sound of the Tiger engine and main gun is like ASMR to me. IIRC DICE recorded all the vehicle and weapon sounds from their real life counterparts (or something similar as was the case for the V1 rocket).
When i saw the gameplay of this campaign i genuinely cried, especially knowing that my friends' great great grandpa was conscripted into the german army during the war, he saw some things, we still have his armband and several pictures of him and his men, he was an öbergefrieter or öberbeshütze in an artillery group
This was a wonderful story, glad you played and talked about it
15:51
Me: Wait....
My Brain: Yeah....
Me: How did I not notice that..
My Brain: You never thought about it too deeply
You made the impossible, you raised my respect towards a modern installment of battlefield from inexistent to minuscule .
For the AT guns, I assume the main reason was that there wasn't a model in-game for the American guns.
Though if I got word that there were tanks closing in on my position, and there were some abandoned PAKs lying around, I wouldn't exactly fret over the "Made in Germany" markings
I was so happy when I heard BFV had done a short story on the Germans. I was so happy that someone FINALLY showed the story of WWII from the germans side for once. It was awesome
The Last Tiger. A probably untrue story about a Tiger 1 crew in Late War Nazi Germany, in the slowly crumbling remains of a regime that was now being dismantled piece by piece.
I like the story of the Last Tiger. Mostly because its about the German tank but I have found that the story of the Germans in WW2 very rarely gets told as it's own thing. And sometimes when it is, I can imagine its not told truthfully.
Recently I found out that there is such thing as a "Clean Wehrmacht" myth, a series of made propaganda by the Germans to try and clean up the Wehrmacht image after WW2, i believe as i only glanced at the thing once. For what aims, I don't know but as a guy who likes German stuff and is willing to be called a Wehraboo, I can tell you this is a myth. German soldiers of both SS and Wehrmacht origin did some horrible things, and I won't refute that claim and if anything encourage people know more of the truth than simply the myth. Then again, no one in WW2 was clean from war crimes, everyone from Japan to America is what I say from chemical to beyond.
But the story of the Last Tiger speaks to me because I've always wondered: was every German soldier in it for the cause or something else. The Sabaton song, Wehrmacht asks basically the same question: Were the men who fought Dogs of war, maybe madmen, or simply young men who were drawn into the propaganda? It's not the first time they've painted a grey image of something, but it sticks to me harder because it just makes you wonder how many were there because they believed the propaganda through and through and how many simply believed it for a bit before regretting it?
Wish there were more games willing to look at the German perspective of war in this time in a blatant manner, though I can imagine it would be hard to try and have players relate to the character without kinda "Clean Wehrmacht"-ing them. But I think this part of Battlefield at least gets part of it right.
Well, thats me done rambling absolute madness. Gonna wait to see how ripped apart i am in the comments for this. But thanks Animarchy for covering this mission.
Thanks for the ted-talk! 👍
That ending broke my heart. Kind of wish Peter shot the guy before he could kill either of them.
Though, sound aside, it's also not a guarantee that he was killed either. He could have missed; the Americans could have stolen an MP40... who knows?
Sounded more like an M3 grease gun.
It sound smore like a grease gun to me. Perhaps Peter is alive?
I just like to think he died.
Better for the story. One thing i absolutely hate in any story is a character coming back from the dead, or should have died but didn't. Unless there's a really good explanation to why he didn't die, or came back to life.
Plus, i think people should appreciate tragedy a bit more.
I love this Story so much, it genuinely is the best story they did for this game and allowed me to actually enjoy the rest of it.
my biggest complaint of this campaign would be the uniforms.
the inaccuracy is just uurgh..
But I love the story, though.
Love the story. I'm kinda ashamed of myself that I watched this video though. I hate when people do these reactions and nitpick every single little inaccuracy they spot. Maybe I was really expecting him to just react to the story while playing instead of nitpicking inaccuracies at every chance he got.
At 17:47 I think it is a Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk. I rifle, the WW2 update of our old trusty SMLE. The front sight and the bayonet look like it.
Yeah it is a no4 there were a hell of a lot of them used under the lend lease program. Came with multiple versions of that short bayonet blade, spike , and have one that's been modified into a screwdriver
Ive played through this mission so many times and not once did i realise Hartmann was Ein Volkstrum kind(er).
I've been waiting for this vid ever since I saw your vanguard videos
The worst enemy of a German tank during WW2 was often itself.
I like to think that Peter lived. IDK why but it seemed that he truely ended up living, which is why we hear him narrating
Animarchy: *Dies fairly quickly*
Wehraboos: Pathetic
I love your channel keep up the great stuff
im glad you did this one. probably the best mission in all of BFV.
I can only imagine that loader eating Panzer chocolate drinking Fanta and one armimg the AP shells into that monster of a cannon
At 41:14 he turned right at one of the epic moments of the campaign😂
The surviving crew of the panther later said that they hesitated to shoot the Pershing cuz they didn’t recognize nose it and they thought it could have been one of theirs
I don't think a commander would introduce himself as "commander of Tiger 237".
Because, firstly, those numbers were not unique.
And secondly, when a unit got reorganised, the tanks got new numbers. This typically happened about twice in the lifetime of a Tiger.
Can we all not forget that kertz is the chad in this war story for driving the tiger and repairing it?
Jokes aside, honestly i wish we had more games covering the other side prespective on war because most games are about the allies and i think BFV only has 1 war story that is about the germans.
Also the part before they found hartman with the irony of all citizens have been evacuated but not really is pretty nice touch.
The last tiger also have some great soundtracks being my favorites along with in the name of tsar and the apocalypse from BF 1.
The Last Tiger was my favorite mission, I wish they would have created an air mission for the game like the tutorial. That would have made me love the game despite all the problems it has
Those imperial german flags are there because they're asset flips. They only made one type of flag from scratch, the reich one, and pulled the ones in flagpoles straight from BF1 because BFV is just BF1 with a WW2 coat of paint. It's even more obvious they're asset flips when you notice they're all the exact same, they have the same fold on the same side and are hanging from the same angle. They couldn't even be bothered to take the flag model and invert it here and there. Also fun fact, that m95/30 and lewis gun you grabbed were also asset flips from BF1.
The strap on the American helmet going over the brim is for the internal liner. The liner is removable so you can use the helmet as a shovel or bucket/pot.
Being able to play Call of Duty on German side would be nice.
Although most of us were on the recieving end and history is written by the winners.
It could be epic. I'd buy it
History is most certainly not “written by the winners”. No historian has ever had to run it by “the victors” to have there work published.
"history is written by the winners" this is not even remotely true, least of all with nazi germany
If history is written by the winners, why is so much of the history on the Eastern Front dominated by German authors?
>the fact that German generals wrote the history of the Eastern Front
Winners don't write history.
I'm fairly confident the Panzer IVs seen here are, at the earliest, the G model. It's easy to recognize the long-barrel IVs, but harder to differentiate the models, except for the F2; as the first variant fitted with the anti-tank 75mm gun, it had a rounded, ball-shaped muzzle brake. When the G came out, a number of teething problems from combat experience with the F2 had led to a number of minor changes, but the most recognizable was the change of muzzle brake. It was changed to a flanged cylinder design, instead of the previous ball brake. I didn't see any tanks in this mission with the early model muzzle brake; whether they're G, H or J variants is harder to say, though none of them that I noticed are equipped with Shürzen. I would assume they're just copy-pasted IV Gs, rather than the predominant H or latewar J.
I've been waiting for you to tackle this. Hell yeS
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It's referred to in game as the pak 40.
The allied counter part that's used in multiplayer is the 6 pounder
After 26:00 Notice how fast the gun reloads despite now missing a loader? You could argue the commander is doing it... but he has his head out of the hatch! 😅
Humans are more stronger in the battlefield universe
13:59 "He had Thompson Mag Pouches while using a Drum Mag Thompson. Yeah not much use to you chief" Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but don't you want Thompson stick magazines even if you use a drum for quicker reloads given how completely clunky the drum mags are to reload with? Is the Thompson somehow incapable of using drum magazines and stick magazines interchangeably? From what I know of the Thomson, the Drum mags were so clucky, that the British military started requesting jungle style stick magazines that were welded together instead.
Yeah, the M1 versions of the Thompson did not accept the 1928 Thompson drum mags.
@@underpaidmook But the Thompson clearly as a drum mag in it, so the question is, can drum mag Thompsons not accept stick mags? Because the contention here is that the soldier brought stick mags for his drum mag Thompson.
@@Edax_Royeaux It can, actually.
@@Edax_Royeaux The Thompson in-game appears to be modeled after the 1928A1, yet it also has features of the M1 Thompson. Though the game uses an M1928A1 receiver, the barrel isn't the 1928A1 finned barrel, and the handguard is that of the M1. The sights are the early 1928 Lyman adjustable rear sights, and it can be upgraded in the multiplayer to use drum magazines, as the M1928A1 receiver can accept both drum and stick magazines. It's not impossible to have this happen, odd but not impossible for a 1928A1 to be retrofitted with an M1 handguard if say, the forward pistol grip was to break or become unusable, as the forward grip if I recall was attached by a single screw. There would be a plausible reason to carry both a drum and box magazines, and was doctrine in a few weapon designs such as the early RPKs or the MG36. It would make sense to have a drum loaded in an early Thompsom to say, provide covering fire and keep the enemy suppressed at first contact. You could then then swap to using 20 or 30 round stick magazines once your base of fire is in position, and you have multiple Garands and a BAR or two joining the firefight. Drums are a bit finicky, as proven by the PPSh-41. The Soviets had to hand-fit drums to work with each submachine gun, which made them less than interchangeable without some modification. After they moved to the PPS-43, the Russian Military used double stack, double feed box magazines almost exclusively because the drums had feeding issues at times.
Simple answer is the 1928 up to 1929A1 can use it, they were retrofited and mostly issued to paratroopers and tank crews (some variants included a folding stock like on the M1 carbine). The M1 and M1A1 however can't accept drums because if changes to the mag well. Also a major tell is the placement it the charging handle.
3:19 If I recall correctly, the reason for the Blenhims being used is because this is way before US Western Front aircraft were introduced into the game
Honestly the Lewis gun is perfectly fine. The German where constantly capturing enemy weapons and putting them into storage. So an old, and VERY rusty Lewis gun that was probably captured during the last war that an man had in his attic from when he took it as a war trophy, wouldn’t be too out of place
During the battle for Berlin their where pretty much weapons used from all around the globe. And yes, it was an absolute nightmare for logistics. But at that point logistics wasn’t their biggest problem.
I think the first time I watched the end of the Last Tiger, it was probably the first time I saw the soldiers fighting for the Axis powers as actual people rather than, monsters, for lack of a better word. Along with showing me how terrible war is, too. I also think I cried, too.
I mean, imagine humanising soldiers, easier to just call them Nazis… make it better, by hiding theyre faces, and extra points for showing them mercilessly execute prisoners
@@HeroFighte What point are you trying make?
@@adamtruong1759 "why make the enemy combatants look human when you could just make them a faceless, generic barbaric murderer" that's what the other one meant
Because there are no monsters, only monsters created by your country’s leaders propaganda. The Germans were no less vicious or cruel then Americans, British, or any other country that were there at the rise of the Third Reich.
Just look at China today, or even America/Europe. So many who use propaganda, and or physical violence to accomplish their goals of power.
What the intro ignores:
Germany produced ~1350 Tiger tanks, ~20 were deployed to North Africa and ~130 to the Western Front.
Guess who faced the rest.
Damn, 1200 went to fight T-34 rush didnt they?
@@thecommentguy9380 Yep and a good deal of them were promptly lost to the horrific travel conditions of rural eastern Europe. While those that made it to the battlefield soon learned a big gun means dick all when your ammo capacity and mobility sucks. Especially when the factories of Russia could spit out T-34s faster than yours could make shells and spare parts.
I will never understand the German obsession with perfection when good enough is all you need in a war.
The eastern front don't exist on battlefield 5 probably
13:59 M1928 Thompsons can use 20 and 30 round stick magazines as well as the 50 round drum magazines. It's the M1 and M1A1 that can't use drums.
"That is a JU-88!"
Correction, that is a JPEG.
You missed out on an inaccuracy: in the first cut scene (the one in North Africa) the Tiger took out the back tank when in reality it would've started by destroying the front one so that the trailing tanks can't move forward. Then the back tank would be destroyed to trap the middle tank/tanks. Finally, the rest of the tanks would be picked off (also there's literally no reason for the tank to be leaving it's vantage point and going head first into the enemy)
they did pull fury with that one
@@ThatOneKate oh ok
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Is it just me or does the turret move faster when your moving?
Tiger tank turrets do speed up as the engine speed increases but that was discouraged due to higher engine fail rates.
@@BHuang92 well it is a German tank from WW2. The only things going for the them were light tanks and tank destroyers. I'd add medium tanks but we get the Panther which had the same issues as the Tiger.
@@BHuang92 It can go much higher in Tiger E or B
The Gewehr M95 is indeed an Austro-Hungarian rifle; however, it is in no way a Mauser it is a Mannlicher and is quite different from a German K98k Mauser notably in its use of Mannlicher clips which go into the rifle unlike Mauser stripper clips which are just used to load ammunition.
42:13 I see in this ‘universe’ Bodenplatte got delayed by 4 months
And the courland airlift as well by the looks of it.
Back in the day parents would get so upset that a ww2 video game would let you play as Germans in the campaign.
This mission having to be in the same game as the Norwegian historical revision is a shame.
It's because of The Last Tiger that I feel so strongly about the mission with the heavy water sabotage in Norway.
The French African colonial mission was also revisionist as hell. Just wanted to make it clear I felt that one was bad too.
The last tiger is my favorite of the war stories bc it shows that the Germans in WW2 were human just you and me and not just as evil nazis and makes them appear as less than human
43:00 so this is the air support goering promised