An IRRITATED Historian Reacts to CoD: Vanguard's Stalingrad Sniper Mission
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So turn off the Mr Beast drama and stop fawning over the Ahsoka trailer. Sit down and learn something about the historical errors that this game continues to make.
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Yeah guys, here we go. Call of Duty: Vanguard... We're back... You asked for it... and god I wish I wasn't. But at least its a sponsored video this time so hey, why not. This was originally supposed to be only thirty minutes long but they got so much wrong it went WAAAY longer. Pain... so much pain.
So turn off the Mr Beast drama and stop fawning over the Ahsoka trailer. Sit down and learn something about the historical errors that this game continues to make.
If you want to lose the will to live, you can always watch USS Indianapolis: Men of Courage (2016). It's got Nick Cage, a nuclear bomb and man-eating sharks in it.
Nyees, suffer for our entertainment
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Hey I wanted Call of Duty 3 Polish Mission
it blows my mind that they just didn't put a flash hider on one of the most iconic belt fed machine guns ever to have been made... LIKE WHY!? 😵
Man I have no idea. It absolutely blows my mind given how iconic the flash hider is. That shapely cone of the fascist death dispenser is in more movies than just about any other except the MP-40
I think it is because they made it into an attachment for the guns and then put a default model of the mg 42 in the cutscenes.
What blows my mind even more is the Dual-drum (aircraft use only on bomber mounted MG 151 and later LW-Troops) and ofc the shoulder fire... wow
@@AnimarchyHistory You should do the British Para Mission the Paras even have B.A.Rs not even modeled correctly.
Not really surprising they couldn't even get a bren gun right.
The funny thing is, at this point I think Black Ops III had a more accurate representation of the Battle of Stalingrad than Vanguard at this point, and Black Ops III's lasted until 1945 with zombies, mechs, cyborgs and dragons.
and it still did a better job about it
@@ryszakowy BO3's let me rocket punch zombies which was the peak of human achievement, Vanguard's just makes me question how it's supposed to be the same universe as World at War and Modern Warfare.
I kinda wish Chris Kyle was still alive.
To shoot the pathetic mess that is this game and sniper.
Black ops 3 wasnt stalingrad.... It was bastogne i believe.
@Matthew Ramirez he is prolly referring to Groad grovi (a map in zombies)
There is actually a manual of operations with the MG42 and how to hipfire it. You basically need to use a rifle strap on your arm and use the Bipod in the folded position as a pseudo foregrip. It looks uncomfortable as hell and woefully inaccurate but it's better than having nothing.
Damn cool seeing you here, I love your channel. Audie Murphy used a hipfire MG42 at one point after he ran out of ammo, and you can see his technique himself in his movie To Hell And Back.
Now I do wonder. How did the germans came to find out?. Surely it was in some desperate measure, but I want to think a German machine gunner was drunk, and was like 'Hanz,I bet I can use the Machinegewer as a rifle!'
@@strikeforce1500 nahh it's a literal option to use a rifle belt/strap on a machine gun.
Check out generation wars a German movie that's similar to band of brothers. There's a scene where a German machine gunner using the MG 42 hip firing with the rifle straps.
Shame the MG42 can't single fire like the 34
@@rubberwoody Ohhh but it can, with proper trigger discipline. Granted i am talking in experience of it's szuccessor, the MG-3 here, but if you have a good control over your fingers, you could single fire those things.
About the German helmet with the skull. As far as I know, in WW2 Germans didn't paint skulls in front of their helmets. Freikorps did do that in 1919. And most, if not all, of the pics of skulls in WW2 stahlhelms are from Finnish Light Detatchment 4, that was part of the cavalry and skulls were part of cavalry emblem.
Why bother to look for historical accuracy in the current mainstream FPS like Battlefield and Call of Duty?
Realism doesn’t sell. Look at the more realistic FPS, they have relatively low player counts, most are struggling to survive.
The average player does not want a realistic tactical they want Fortnite in WW2, with fun exotic customizable weapons and character skins. They would consider realism as boring, standard weapons and uniforms as a lack of imagination - been there done that, how many more WW2 games can you make repeating the same events etc. Well the result of that is Vanguard. A true corporate “develop by the tick box” game. There were some good games, even recently some came close to the originals, but still handicapped by the need to be innovative for the sake of innovation, inclusivity and last but not least propaganda.
@@Getoffmycloud53 This is the campaing, not the multiplayer. In MP you can have more freedoms for the sake of fun, but you can make the campaing historically accurate. Also most of these studios advertise their games as "historicaly accurate". Multiplayer is the thing that most play, no? But I guess it is too much hard work to make campaing and MP with different skins and mechanics.
@@Getoffmycloud53 historical accuracy does sell its just that game these days are mean for "modern audience" so they try to trigger the less amount of people at the cost of gamer and people that actually care
@@aoki6332 wtf is this statement? Trigger less people? They added all the shit inaccuracues because they thought people wouldn't like going all bolt-action or semi-auto without attachments, they were going for the right audience with the completely wrong mindset in gameplay.
Fun fact, the building Polina fought in is the Univermag. A department store that the German 6th Army used as their headquarters and is the area where the Germans surrendered in January 1943.
That literally means Polina is fighting inside a German headquarters. The inaccuracy of this mission...
The trend down bolt handle being on all models is because in the game the mosin is a scoped sniper rifle by default and you can simply remove the scope and use irons, which does not change the rest of the gun.
And the mg42 does nor have a booster because they made the mg42 have no muzzle by default and turned the booster into an attachment, which they forgot to ad.
The cursed gunsmith is creeping itself into the campaign.
As my great great grandpa said about one of his friends having his head blown in half by a Nazi sniper. " One minute he's talking to me about his back hurting from the twisting motion we were constantly doing loading mortars, the next he's staring up at the sky with half his entire head missing. "
Her entire character just feels like a box being check on some list to make sure the company's ESG score remains high.
Because that's exactly what it is.
@@sandwichninja She reminds me of a character Dice put in BFV a young Norwegian girl who destroys a German facility, but it was worse because that facility was real and was destroyed by a real life commando team.
@@GUMMRUCHK This is a big reason I don't support these companies. Everything is "woke" propaganda. I prefer indie games now anyway and I find there's less BS in them.
Wait till you find out female snipers were a thing in the Soviet army. Polina is inspired by Lyudmila Pavlichenko, the deadliest female sniper in history with about 300 confirmed kills. Women took part in WW2 my guy.
@@GUMMRUCHK her whole character is, “keel the nazi, thaet is plan”
I "like" how they can get away with an head blow off by an sniper in an M-rated game
But they don't show it because is easier to slap an wound decal on the model than to actually make an different model showing the damage
It always infuriated me that cod games after WaW never had such detail with gore when I was younger.
A sniper, a wound, not an.
@@GrumpyIan WWII had some pretty good detail, but that game is rarity in todays environment.
VG has gore models in MP and ZM, idk why they didn’t just reuse those
@@knowtheplan472 Gameplay models are usually lower fidelity than those used in cutscenes especially prerendered scenes
Getting history wrong and misrepresenting facts and timelines in media should be an actual crime gosh darnit.
I mean Egypt is suing Netflix for their bullshit with Cleopatra so I guess it is thankfully
We have a black cleopatra, a black juan do ark, a blac Aquiles, and i dont know if the proyect to put a black Julius Cesar work, lets not even metnion, the constant push for more representation in history, please come on, and in these f saga, the mission to dont remember that a mother and daugther taking down the heavy water installation to deprive the necesary to produce nuclear weapons, that was a group of dont remember the names but they were a group of men, and they put a girl saving her mom, lets not talk the cybor woman.
Being woke is more important than being factually accurate these days if you have noticed.
@@Val-cb6hm Black Viking king in netflix vikings
@Val NGL that might be hilarious because if I remember correctly Churchill was an absolute cunt and a huge racist
The writing makes me want to vomit. From the Nazis calling her “Lady Nightingale” to the nonsense of her saving the Russian cause in Stalingrad, it’s all embarrassing garbage. Whoever wrote this game should be ashamed of themselves.
Come on now dont be mean, its clearly written by the edgy 12 year old daughter of the lead designer after she watched enemies at the gate for research
I like how she's calmly talking to the guy on the roof in silence, then when he hits the street there's a big battle with a machinegun firing.
Call of Duty Finest Hour had an awesome Stalingrad mission set. It started with crossing the Volga River, had you play as a female sniper, and ended with a great tank battle centered in Operation Uranus
Hell yeah. Put the protagonist in the middle of the REAL crazy shit that happened, rather than make up new stuff that comes off as disrespectful.
agreed. that game was very underrated and the first soviet mission was ridiculously good.
Finally thanks for mentioning the game
@@Zaprozhanbuddy haven’t you played the very first cod titles such as finest hour
@@reqschannelyep they are all underrated because the people who made the franchise just doesn’t remaster the very first cod titles such a depressing sigh that it makes you want to🤦♂️
I was waiting for the obligatory random shotgun to show up. Also that guy hunting from the back of the Storch is a mad lad.
I cant believe they are so arrogant to claim that one woman single-handedly inspired the entire soviet army to liberate Stalingrad and crush the remnants of the 6th army. This is an insult to history and activision should be ashamed of what they have done to COD with this crap.
Its written like the soviet fan-fic of a 14 year old edge lord....
I mean... If you're going to Call of fucking Duty for your accurate history information, something has gone VERY wrong with your education.
I have a degree in History, and a particular interest in WW2 and the Cold War, but for all CodV's faults as a game, I just can't bring myself to hate their butchery of history, because it's a AAA
arcade shooter. I might as well get upset about the treatment of Roman history in Asterix comics. 😂
You didn't play the older cod games and it shows
@@peterclarke7006CoD has never been high on historical accuracy scores, but they've always had scores of respect for the historical material they were adapting. Vanguard is an insult to history not because of historical accuracy, but because it's tone and portrayal just sucks all around.
@@randot6675 explain.
We already know cod is an arcade shooter. We already know it and battlefield started deviating from the alleged historical script as they moved further away from single player campaigns and more into chasing that sweet, sweet multiplayer money.
And yet you stupid cod fan boy berks are still getting upset about them becoming more like a brainless twitch shooter mobile game with every iteration, and then still also claiming that multiplayer is all that matters.
You've done this to yourselves. And as a former World at War/European Assault/bad company 2 fan, I will never, ever forgive you.
You know?
I think it would have been better if the Mission included Polina being in a Sniper team with Reznov and Dimitri.
Polina is taking some notes from both Dimitri and Reznov.
Dimitri being the "heros need not question their actions" ending, which would make Polina consider that this war, while personal, she grows less and less assured up until the Nazis grow mere desperate, where they recruit every one they can find.
The young, the weak, and the old.
while Reznov is his vengeful self, with Polina viewing Reznov as a kind of a mirror to herself.
This game would’ve been way better if they at least had a cameo appearance from Reznov or have references to the Vendetta mission in WAW. Like subtle easter eggs (a line of dialogue mentioning General Amsel for instance) to tie this mission in to World At War.
@@josephhelgersonjoseph6115 Yeah.
They did just that MW and Cod CW.
Though, you have to admit Polina's missions would have been even more baller if at Least Reznov and Dimitri were involved and the guy that Polina killed was sent to replace Amsel.
And the game of cat and mouse would begin again as Dimitri with Reznov acting as his spotter would be tasked with eliminating german high-ranking officers in Stalingrad propper.
Well according to the devs, Call of Duty “never had any iconic characters.”
Just shows the lack of knowledge the devs had when making the game
So I see a couple people mention General Amsel and the Vandetta level. I remember what Reznov said “Heinrich Amsel, architect of Stalingrad’s Misery” which I think implies Amsel was the general at the start but since General Steiner is killed in winter I am guessing Steiner replaces Amsel.
Also is this Steiner related to Dr Friedrich Steiner from Black Ops or the Steiner that Hitler mentions in Downfall as being supposed to break the Soviet encirclement of Berlin. What if all three are cousins or brothers or something ?
@@jukab9292Captain Price (I imagine the Price you see in Call of Duty 1 is the Father or Grandfather of the Price in Modern Warfare), Soap, Mason, Reznov, Dimitri, Ghost, they are the iconic Call of Duty characters, well for protagonists.
18:26 So in WW2 we've got the Soviets using their planes to drop vodka, the Americans using them to make ice cream and the British using them to cool beers. This right here is why we learn history.
and they where the Luftwaffe making a clear sky
@@_E_Pluribus_Unum_ i think it could be made just in the fuselage of a high alt bomber, cold enough
You only missed the TACTICAL FLASHLIGHTS fixed on the k98 bayonet lugs that the soldiers have in the apartment/factory thing
Fun Fact: At 56:43, when Animarchy states that Steiner can not die at this moment, he is making a reference to the real-life SS Commander Felix Steiner. Sharing the same surname as this mission's fictional antagonist, he fought at the Battle of Berlin, hence Animarchy's comments.
Dragovich, Kravchenko & Steiner - All Must Die!
He is specifically referencing the (excellent) movie Downfall, the source of the "Hitler Rants" meme. Where a scene is Hitler talking about Steiner's counterattack changing the tide and getting angry once the other Generals inform him Steiner didn't attack.
What is more ironic is that Felix Steiner was not accused of any war crimes. He didnt for instance obey Hitlers infamous "comissar order" despite he was SS-officer.
The overcoat is fine - it's basically the same kind that was used by the Imperial Russian army, and didn't change much since then. The bigger issue would be the odd cape that Polina is wearing - capes _were_ a thing in the Red Army, but what she's wearing is a very stylized version that doesn't do the main job of a cape - protecting from rain and snow. It's Harry Potter stuff, not real world stuff.
Red collar tabs - before the shoulder pads were reintroduced in 1943, those were the rank insignia for the Red Army. After that they only remained as a style. However, the man is wearing a vatnik, which didn't have the collar to put those tabs onto. That's why it doesn't look right.
"Lady Nightingale" is a fucking stupid name, clearly of Western origin. First of all, "nightingale" is male in Russian. Second, "lady" would not be used by Soviets. And third, while snipers were very much celebrities in the newspapers, they were not leaders, they had a specific job to do and were expected to do it. At most they had a sniper platoon they'd lead - but even then that's a Lieutenant rank at best. She could not be a leader for the common rabble, because she'd be part of the regular army and subject to authority of a company commander, taking orders from her Captain. Also, the Germans printing out posters of one specific sniper while they're encircled and starving is hilarious. Chekhov's "Show don't tell" clearly isn't something the writers of this stuff ever learned.
And I must say, carrying a PPSh and a Mosin is impressive. Both are quite heavy weapons. PPSh is 4 kilograms when loaded. Mosin is 4,5 kilograms. Add to that the ammo. She's carrying at least 10 kilos of weaponry and switching between them willy-nilly. Even for a guy, that's quite impressive, for a short woman that's a hell of an achievement.
So basically, it's the Hollywood insistence on praising individuals and "strong women" for the work of the collective that created this character, a pathetic parody of the real women of the Workers' and Peasants' Red Army.
Early model telogreikas did have collars, they're just less commonly seen than the M1943 without. The collar tabs themselves were coloured by branch rather than just being red across the board (similar to Germany's Waffenfarbe system and continued by the Soviet Army after the war, for both collar tabs and shoulder boards). Magenta was the colour for infantry but generally is interpreted as red. I forget who *actually* had red during the war, later it was used for internal affairs troops.
e/ Polina looks like she's wearing a shelter half. Both the German zeltbahn and Soviet plash palatka doubled as capes when not being slept under. That's genuinely what they look like when you wear them, bearing in mind you're literally wearing your tent over your shoulders with your head poked through.
And Holy SHIT if you, lazerpig, and perun were on one video or even a podcast I would listen to it 10 times a day
Well, Lazerpig and I ARE on a podcast my guy. Perun can't (yet) because of his work.
@@AnimarchyHistory listening to it now and its my favorite yet. And its length is BEEFY. I love it, the longer the better
FYI: I wouldn't think shoulder firing the MG42 would be very difficult, though you'd hold on to the bipod and certainly keep fingers well away from the barrel sheath. I've done it many times with the MG3, which is pretty much the same gun, and it doesn't weigh more than around 12kg with the ammo. It also doesn't take an incredible amount of practice to fire in 3-4 round burst, and with holding the bipod accuracy is decent in the 20-50m range as that's when you rely on 'point-and-shoot' . I would also assume the Germans picked larger guys for the larger guns, and I think pretty much any 180ish/80ish guy won't have any major difficulties in lifting 12kg.
At the very end of my conscription we were granted a bit more freedom, and I was allowed to Rambo the close combat fire track with the MG3 and 1 barrels worth/200 rounds (my squad leader/'blood-quart' found the idea funny). The targets did have more holes than running the round with the AG3, though mostly due to twice the ammo...
Doesn't 7.62×51mm NATO only have like half the power of 7.92×57mm Mauser due to it being an intermediate cartridge?
@@Edax_Royeaux I have no idea unfortunately.. Though the MG3 is belt fed, not magazine. My comment was mostly on the feasibility of shoulder firing the thing.
When it comes to punching power, the lesson was "one sandbag to stop an AG round, two to stop an MG burst".
@@Edax_Royeaux 7.62x51 is a battle rifle round full powder a slightly smaller 30-06 really.
@@nullvoid3677 I see I mixed up the numbers on bullet energy, it says Mauser has about 4k j, NATO has 3.5k j.
@@Edax_Royeaux If 762 NATO is intermediate, then 7,62x39 is a pistol round.
These vids are quite entertaining! Surprising how much CoD can possibly get wrong, I mean C-47's with D-Day invasion stripes bombing Berlin... that was a new low
Granted, the way the level is lit with the sky being so dark, I doubt they expected anyone to really notice they were refusing assets for something that mostly no one would pay attention to.
Granted, the final mission in MOH frontline has a bombing raid on a Luftwaffe airbase being done by C-47s, but comparing Frontline to vanguard is like comparing a golden crown to a wet dog turd.
@@cadjebushey6524 I mean, to be fair, that's much closer than the opposite factions aircraft on the other side of the planet. Also, frontline came out less than a year after 9/11, ie, almost 21 years ago.
@@cadjebushey6524 Oh I just realized Frontline was the Crown I that analogy ha
...I hope...
@@ChiefCrewin it is the golden crown. Vanguard doesn't even compare.
So if Polina was so instrumental in "turning the tide of the war" (Which just takes a steaming fat shit all over the sacrifices of literal millions upon millions of Soviet soldiers and civilians who died either defending the city or were murdered by the Wehrmacht) Then surely she would be staying in the USSR for propaganda work. Almost all famous War Heroes, especially winners of the MoH or VC, were typically brought home to do things like warbond appeals or photoshoots or interviews to boost morale for those back home. I find it extremely unlikely a now highly decorated sniper would be allowed to run off to the Western Allies in some secret operation when she would be needed back home on the offensive into Germany.
Not to mention that Stalin would have her executed not long after the war because he feared opposition of any kind.
Well, it's partially possible - Lyudmila Pavlichenko went to the US and Canada on a publicity diplomatic trip during the war. But note that in this very mission, there doesn't seem to be any command structure whatsoever that this woman fits into. She's a lone wolf, without assignment to a platoon like a normal sniper would be. Clearly the writers were too focused on having "the big hero" and entirely ignored the collective effort of thousands of soldiers. Typical Hollywood logic.
@@MLPIceberg Why would he have her executed? Or how exactly Polina character chould have been shown as opposition?
@@troller8680 Because Stalin hated any kind of person that had power and didn't essentially lick his boots? That was kind of his shtick. Unless the entire history is wrong and he was the nicest guy on the planet?
@@MLPIceberg Stalin was many things, but considering a sniper lady being a threat to his power? He considered Zhukov a threat, and guy lived, despite having real power and popular support. He was a great monster, but i doubt he was that petty.
Fun fact about the trench mag for the Gewehr 98/98K: it is pseudo detachable for cleaning purposes, but due to the layout of the magazine body, follower, and detent from the floorplate that locks it in place you’d have to use the tip of a cartridge any time you wanted to reload without using stripper clips, and as soon as you did the overpowered spring from the follower would ejaculate ammo everywhere the second it was removed from the gun.
It does use a small cross key to pin the follower in place but as far as I’m aware isn’t modeled in game.
53:16 was the furthest I got in this game before giving up and never touching it again, despite all of the stupid decisions the devs made before now, at this point enemies constantly came running up behind me out of no where, it really felt like they were trying to mimic multiplayer gameplay in singleplayer, like that guy that runs by the player at 54:48. This segment broke the camels back and why I don't buy Call of Duty anymore.
That's it? Not the fact that Call of Duty stopped being about the "Call to Duty" and more of "Murder entire countries by yourself" simulator? Which also stopped being accurate during MW2... Kinda lost me back then.
By the end of the game I was like f it this is bad historical fiction with bs woke politics. I just played the last mission not caring then i never played the campaign again. I mean this was worse the Battlefield V story missions.
@@Autobotmatt428 Define woke and how this campaign was "woke"
@@kakyointhemilfhunter4273 bruh, just watch the other campaigns, the game reeks of tokensim and making people racist ingame, while its historically known that those people (who are portrayed racist) in fact werent.... Its just a shit game with a clear political message (like the glamorization of the ussr, bleegh)
That was an issue since CoD2 way back when. These games always kept spawning enemies in impossible numbers and locations until you hit trigger points.
"Paulina changed the war for the Allies and the Soviet Union" My Bullshit alarm is ringing with such intensity that it is causing nearby glass and other items to shatter.
Pacman, I would like for you to do a historical breakdown of the rest of Battlefield 1’s War Stories and perhaps even check out the multiplayer.
id watch that
If I had to guess, it's probably a little bit more accurate than what was portrayed here, but still mostly wrong. No Battlefield or Call of Duty title has ever been historically "accurate", but Battlefield 1 and Call of Duty: World at War are both certainly more historically "authentic".
@@JohnSmith-mk5jt a big issue with Battlefield 1 is everyone and their dog having experimental sub-machine guns instead of the bolt action rifles they would have but otherwise it is historically pretty decent iirc.
@@gokbay3057 I think World War 1 games can have a little bit of leeway because making interesting gameplay that can also cater to casual history enthusiasts/gamers would be impossible with only bolt action rifles. World War 2 games don't have that constraint, so the standard is higher.
@@JohnSmith-mk5jt Yeah, I don't disagree that what Battlefield 1 did is fine artistic license because Bolt Action or MG emplacements only would be boring while WW2 Games can still have decent variety as well as accuracy at the se time.
As someone who's shot melons with 7.92x57 Mauser can confirm can what he said about exit wounds
Same lol
Hell, as someone whose shot melons with a .22 I can confirm lol.
As someone who shot nerf darts at targets, I can totally confirm :)
There is something deeply satisfying about listening to someone who knows what hes talking about.
You should look up Yuri Bezmenov.
During the Polish-German armored maneuvers "Cross Attachment" I had the opportunity to get acquainted with the MG-3, a direct descendant of the MG-42. This was for entertainment, not tactical, but it is perfectly possible to shoot from a touchdown to the shoulder. The problem is with the rate of fire. Little chance for a good concentration of fire, unlike the PKM or UMG 2000 that we use in Poland.
The german shoulder firing the MG 42 is a reenactor....you can even see the Mg belt is comprised of blanks and crimped near the top
You're doing a video with Perun?
Epic. Can't wait. With his dry humor and your sarcasm, yeah.
first the pig then the powerpoint man. Its gonna be a good summer.
I like how everyone probably knows by now what 'powerpoint man' means :)
The DP-27 is also wrong. It has a pistolgrip, wich would make it a DPM, but without the tube housing the recoil spring. The flash hider is also missing.
I just call it the DPM because it’s easier that way
Also they always talk about "The Russians" when in fact it was The Soviets. Many diffrent people fought in the Red Army but yeah. As the German saying goes; "Everything after Poland is Russia." And sadly we still see that narative until today.
I always call them the Red Army or the Soviets. Anytime I focus on one group I’ll say Ukrainians, Ruthann’s, Crimean’s, or Russian, but when I’m talking about the army as a whole I call them Soviets. Hell I have had people say you shouldn’t call them Soviets so I have seen what your saying.
Back then nobody called it the red army, it was just Russians
The Soviet Union was a Russian empire, it's like saying British forces shouldn't be called British because there were Indians, Africans, and so on under their rule.
@@RipOffProductionsLLC No one called the Canadians or the Australians British.
@@RipOffProductionsLLC No, it would be like calling the British empire English, which no one does unless they're being specific to English forces.
I will point out that Polina is based off of Lyudmila Pavlichenko who didn't take part in the Battle of Stalingrad.
That is true thank you respect the lady death
I’m pretty sure Polina’s father was implied to be a Russian civil war veteran
One of my history teachers in High School, brought in a de-milled mg-42 in one class, and boy it that thing heavy. I tried to WaW it and aim down sights and was only able to do it for like a second.
My history teacher brought a deactivated Suomi M31 for the class to play around.
One of my history teachers brought in a T34. I could barely carry the thing so I have no idea how they could move those things around.
In my high school forensic science class the school resource officer brought a shotgun that was involved in a murder case from the 1890s
@@McBlazington My teacher once brought in a decomissioned Fletcher Class destroyer for us to mess around with. I could only carry it for a second or two, it's very heavy.
@@JohnSmith-mk5jt My teacher once brought an intact Yamato-class battleship to class for show and tell. It was quite a hefty thing, could barely get it off the ground.
The mosin PU example you posted isn’t a real one either. It has a hex receiver which the pu mosins were never built on! Good video keep it up!
21:50, sniper scopes don't typically have the same field of view as binoculars. So using binoculars over a scope does make sense. But being her scouting partner, he should have been "walking" her onto target while she's also using her scope, using landmarks and such to navigate her limited field into a target
In that situation what would really happen tho, is dude with bino's would say hey look at that thing over there, then sniper would just look thru the scope of their rifle ha.
I was waiting for the AS-44 bit lmao, I remember chuckling out loud when I came across an experimental assault rifle that wasn't invented yet in the middle of Stalingrad. 😆
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The DP-27 is inaccurate since it has a grip. I've only seen modifcations such as that during the Cold War. It certaintly did not exist in the WW2 Variant.
DP-27 DP-28 DPM it’s all the same okay
Imagine making a ww2 game and then censoring it. What a pathetic franchise.
Well, you have to to sell it in all countries.
This game is an insult
13:03 You say they might have done it for the sake of not pushing the limit of the M rating, but in an earlier level while playing as Arthur, a secondary character's head is graphically destroyed by a single bullet as he attempts to storm through a doorway. So it doesn't make much sense to assume the scene here was "dialed back" in the interest of not upsetting the ratings boards.
Fun fact, at 10:26, the helmet with the skull painted on it was something done by the Finnish 4th Light Detachment aka Kevyt Osasto 4 during the Winter War. Could be done by more Finnish troops idk, but of course it would find its way in the game in Stalingrad cause why not.
I'm beginning to think people that were charged in creation of this supposedly historical game don't actually give a damn or like history all that much. They were tasked with delivering bare fucking minimum since the last proper WW2 FPS across multiple theaters of operations (WHICH WAS OVER A DECADE PRIOR TO VANGUARD), and they couldn't even deliver on that by making so many mistakes or adding technology way earlier than it's created
Don't get me started on CODWWII which focused solely on France/Normandy and is not what I'm looking for in a modern AAA first person shooter title.
It's a massive bummer and shame that we lost Medal of Honor and Brothers in Arms. I mean there's Wolfenstein but it's alt history, and neither Postscriptum nor Hell Let Loose provide single player campaigns with high production value
About the red collar tabs during the Stalingrad mission, it could be plausible. The 1943 uniform (the introduction of which was decided Jan 15th) hadn't been issued to everyone yet, so collar tabs were still used to show rank and branch (red being the color of infantry). By 1941 "low visibility" tabs were introduced, but never completely replaced the colored ones.
The other call of Duty game your thinking of is Finest Hour. That level also featured Call of Duty's first female protagonist, and the first time a female was ever seen featured in Call of Duty.
That is true thank you for mentioning it because i have that game
Yeah and it accurately showed the Battle of Stalingrad unlike this piece of crap. It was hilarious seeing Germans running around with STG-44s and Gewehr 43s in 1942 Stalingrad
And she's better than Paulina by a thousand miles...
@@MLPIceberg really now
26:49 I wanted to play devil's advocate and say you could think of this as the MP43, not the STG44. What few MP43s there were *were* present on the eastern front. The 93rd Infantry Division was given some of them. The Waffen-SS also received some, but I can't find which units and where they were. But the 93rd Infantry Division, from what I can find, was not present in the Battle of Stalingrad. However, the 60th Infantry Division was.
And the 271st Infantry Regiment "Feldherrnhalle" of the 93rd Infantry Division was taken from the 93rd and transferred to the 60th. Technically. See there's a problem. This happened in the Summer of 1943. Long after the Soviets defeated the Germans in Stalingrad. Oh and after the 60th was completely destroyed in said battle.
The division was reformed as the Panzergrenadier Division "Feldherrnhalle". So not only was any unit equipped with the weapon not present for this battle, but the division that would later have some MP43s wasn't even the same one that *WAS* present in Stalingrad.
The 60th Infanterie-Division and the Panzer-Division Feldherrnhalle were not the same division. Oh, and later the Panzer-Division Feldherrnhalle would itself be destroyed in the Minsk Offensive and then reformed by, I am not making this up, Panzer-Division Feldherrnhalle (1). Real original.
37:23 And I looked this up. They were MKb 42(H)s. I think that's what you meant. There was a total of 50 of them ever made, and 35 of them were dropped into the Kholm pocket. But again, Kholm was not Stalingrad.
the bit about the Soviet quality control being sub par is real. It's notable enough that people collecting Mosin-Nagant rifles like to get both pre- and during-war models because you can see where corners were cut. The rifles are functional, but there are a lot of rough spots where the machining or woodwork isn't so smooth. It's the difference between a 1932 rifle where the factory had plenty of time to finish each rifle, or 1943 where they were literally trying to get them out the door as fast as possible because they were mobilizing conscripts so fast. The sanding doesn't need to be perfect, the lacquer finish can be too thick or too thin, the bolt and barrel can show the machining marks instead of being polished, etc. It'll still shoot Nazis, so out it goes.
That DP27 is actually a dpm, which is anachronistic. The pistol grip is the giveaway. They cocked it up.
You didn't even noticed the DP-27 had an reflex sight on it didn't ya
That is just how the rear sight block looks on a dp, it has the wings to pull on the release the mag
I'm here before the video has even uploaded but I can tell you this about to be hot
Very glad that you came back to propose a calm critic on this gorgeous historically accurate absolutely flawless masterpiece
3 COD Vanguard missions left: Rats of Tobruk, Operation Tonga, & Phoenix.
I don’t know why they decided to call her Lady Nightingale, Nightingale was British and served in the Crimean War as a nurse, you know, the war they fought against the russian empire. I get the character was intended to be a nurse, but, they didn’t had famous nurses in russia with a badass name? Same as the night witches? Don’t mind me, I just find that odd 😅 can’t wait the collaboration with the PowerPoint man 😂
Not funny have some respect for lady death will you
@@usadroopymeat1099 no
@@badasscrusader you must or else karma bites you in your buttocks I am not joking or kidding okay now can you please for everyone’s sake including your own give her an apology and we may forget and forgive all of this
@@usadroopymeat1099 no
@@badasscrusader why are you keep saying no for no reason i am serious
yeah, the overcoat looks like it's similar to a peacoat or "shinel" that would only be worn by officers. Soldiers might have a "plasch-palatka" which is a different , much more ample cut. You can see it on soviet era statues.
A plasch-palatka is a simple rain cape and tent piece, similar in concept to what other armies used but with a hood. Woolen shinels were issued to all ranks, though the officer ones were nicer and closed with two rows of buttons instead of hidden hooks! They were supposed to be fitted with rank insignia, though in practise often weren’t
so the reason why steiner didnt counterattack is because he was busy saving the timeline
The "partisan" sign in the intro makes a lot more sense in the historical reference photo you put up; it is all in plural. "We are partisans, and have shot at german soldiers." - that makes sense, when there's a whole row of people who've been summarily executed.
It makes somewhat less sense for a single person, like in the cutscene.
You really can’t expect any “AAA game” to take things seriously these days.
It's more of "Don't listen to devs who say their game is historically accurate/authentic" because it fucking won't be.
@@MLPIceberg There are many games out there that do try hard to be accurate though. It’s the big “AAA” devs that mostly ignore such stuff.
But muh explosions and cinematics and gurl power!
I like how COD WaW did their weapon modification system. They only allowed it in multiplayer mode so there could be a form of sandbox, but in the campaign everything was historically accurate.
Don't expect anything good from Call of Duty or Battlefield to be honest. Heck even Valkyria Chronicles tells a more believable WWII Scenario than those games do anymore. Yes I'm saying that specifically to insult COD and BF.
That being said the most believable WWII game I've ever played was Mobile Suit Gundam Zeonic Front for the Playstation 2... and again ya I do that for the sake of insulting WWII video games. That game however did emulate what it would of been like serving in a Heavy Tank Battalion in the German Army but in a Scifi Setting. Being the background story for Mobile Suit Gundam is a parody of WWII, so much of the same issues plagued the Zeons (Space Nazis) as they did the real life German Army. Yes a Franchise with Space Nazis yet made Space Nazis that were believable and technically the underdogs while also not glossing over the fact they're responsible for the deaths of in this case billions.
Silence weeb.
@@aarosundvall Oh I'm not even joking.
th-cam.com/video/L1rbmr21Vrs/w-d-xo.html < Speech given just before the final Mission on Zeonic Front. Just before the "Fake Battle of Berlin" so to speak.
Right after this speech you get a final mission which is basically General Wenck's attempt to break out what remains of the 9th Army, well at least the same exact scenario. You're last mission is an offensive to rescue surrounded allies. So ironically I find it interesting that those who made the game did enough research to know the last German offensive of the war happened at such a late hour So emulated it into the game as the final mission. Of course on a smaller scale. They literally tricked you by giving a cutscene making you think the game was over and ending o a high note. Prior to this you were spending mission after mission doing fighting retreats, and small tactical victors. Watching as your side loses ground, day after day, even watching your soldiers being optimistic early in the game, starting to fall into despair later.
It's a great way of contrasting that TRIUMPANT speech they gave literally minutes before. After all the dust settles, your unit retreats with what allies you were able to rescue. Find out over the radio that "Zeon" has surrendered. That Triumphant speech which gave them a last minute moral boost promising victory ends up being for not.
Basically, no WWII game has been made on the German side and done such a scenario better than Zeonic Front did. I dare a WWII video game to make a game that out does this "FAKE" WWII game. They've failed every single time.
Great analysis! If I might make a suggestion, I'd love if you took another look at Sniper Elite 5, particularly the weapon customization. Its not as far out crazy as Vanguard, but it can still be a bit wacky. I still love the game though, particularly since many of the locations are based off real places like the Abbey in the Spy Academy Mission and the V2 rocket plant in the Secret Weapons Mission.
Unexpected reference to Life of Boris, but a welcomed one
I know where they got the skull on the helmet idea: some Finnish units did paint skull on their helmets
but they were on the literal opposite flank of the entire eastern front, lmao
Came for Raid Shadow Legends stayed for Animarchy
Also no the USSR woud not have fallen woud stalingrad be taken.
The thing that gets me is, you could've had a lot more realistic weapons in the game that we would've been more forgiving for cheesing in. Like the ppd variants, the avs-36 through svt-40, the nagant revolver. Early geweher 41s. Mp-38s. Hell, even the mp 28. The plethora of tank and aircraft mgs that coulda been 'scavanged' from wrecks coulda been forgiven. There's plenty to pull from without just shitting on history.
40:40 heck, one of COD 2's mission in the first part is fixing a telephone wire between some garrisons in Stalingrad. God how I'd wish they'd remade that game in modern graphics...
Uh... no. Why? Can you really trust a company full of sexual predators and debaucherous weirdos (that also own subsidiaries that have since followed suit) to remake a game and not fuck it up to the extent they did when making Vanguard or WWII? No. Just... remaster it and release on modern conso- oh wait. It is on Xbox Series X. So just remaster it. Yeah.
@@MLPIceberghow about remastered all of them from the very first cod the second and third cod united offensive finest hour big red one final fronts and finally roads to victory
bro, Hans woke up and chose to be TF2 heavy but German and so incredibly jacked that they had to model him to look like a normal German due to the sheer amount of lag is monstrous biceps would cause 🤣
You'd think with Activision as a parent company for all the development teams for every single Call of Duty game (minus a few portable system spin-offs, possibly), they'd be able to use the research the teams of past installments did and use it in the latest historical game. But no. Parent companies nowadays don't support their subsidiaries or help them cooperate, they starve them until they make masterpieces out of toothpicks and expired gum and marshmallows.
An interesting suggestion I heard about the Volkssturmgewehr is that it may have actually been more practical to just keep making StG-44s, if simplified, then to completely retool to make the VSG, especially since those ones used the same magazine and ammo, though the one in the game might've been one of VG1, 2 or 5 versions.
never been a fan of the ending but something something woman, i'm sorry lady but you didn't really do shit. while you were busy on your personal revenge trip.Tanya Pavelovna,Nikolai Badanov,Aleksandr Sokolov,Viktor urasov, Oleg Puskov, Dimitiry Petrov,Mikael Kirelenko, KonstantinBagramyan, Alexei Voronin, Makarov, Borodin, Yakov Pavlov, V.S. Zubov, an named sovier radioman, Kovalenko, Kozlov, Filatov, Gromov,Kovalenko,Kozlov, Nikita Dragovich,Dimitri Petrenko (our boi who raised the flag on berlin back in world at war), and our boy Viktor Reznov were off saving the soviet union. (and yes those are all the notable ww2 soviet charaters you meet or play as in call of duty)
I love this series of going into a game and discussing its historical elements
They have a giant gunfight where they get shot dozens of times to get to an officer's meeting where both officers haven't heard a thing and are standing in the open, then they look at the officers instead of shooting at them because it would be too dangerous, then when the enemy is alerted, the friendo gets taken down by the first shot (instead of surviving it like the other times) and the girl fights her way through all those same enemies with a pistol only.
Why didn't they just fire at the officer, seeing as they and their escort were obviously entirely deaf 😂
That wasn't actually a DP-27, that was a DPM
do not understand WHY these games need to try to have some big huge story, when it takes PLACE in the literal biggest story known to man, world war fucking 2. Like what the fuck. WaW was peak.
On 12:35 a character cuts something from the deceased soldier's neck to identify him.
I assume it's supposed to be a dogtag. But Soviets didn't use dog tags. RKKA had bakelite ID capsules, but they hadn't been meant to be worn on the neck. And even this for of body ID had been scrapped in the end of 1942
It looked like he just wanted to detach the barbed wire from his neck.
Also is not "Russia" its the USSR and the loss of Stalingrad would had not meant the crumble of the USSR , a huge loss ? Yes but not the end of the USSR. Also no partisans took part in the battle of Stalingrad (not that i know of at least)
In regards to handing the binocs to Polina, devils advocate here, in that case I think that was actually one thing that could have likely been smart had that situation happened, not because of better magnification, but because of WORSE magnification; binocs tend to have lower magnification iirc, much better for scouting a wide area
pretty sure your doing something wrong if youre looking at CoD for any kind of accuracy in regards to story telling, lmao. CoD is a fantasy shooter in my opinion, and extremely far removed from more realistic military simulation games.
The factory map in Red Orchestra 2 was brutal. Much of the map could be covered by machine guns and snipers. Leaving the riflemen and assault troops to rush below or around the flanks to try and get to the points. That game was brutal. Felt too realistic. Basically pop your head up in a server with good players and you’re done. Loved that game.
The AT rifles were beasts
You know what I have issues with I don't think the Communist Soviets would refer to a heroine as lady. That implies nobility Which even if they didn't hate before they've been told to hate now.
While I haven’t fired a K98, I have fired a Turkish Gewehr 98 with the only non-original part being the sling. (At least I think it was the Gewehr 98, although according to the serial number, it was made in 1949 in Turkey). It is to this day one of my favourite rifles to shoot, even if I rarely get to as the owner lives multiple states away. And in spite of packing a punch, it was also less energy intensive to operate the bolt (due to the help of gravity for cock-on-close) when I tried to fire faster.
Plus I did take it apart to clean it, and it makes you appreciate the small things and complexities that make the rifle truly shine. Plus it’s just outright gorgeous.
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Ok that sounds cool but does it even relate to the topic
Isn't it sad that a game series that started out priding itself as being historically accurate to the point of being educational has come to the point of being such BS that it can be called propaganda?
Is just one of those forgettable experiences of WW2. No WW2 game will ever surpass The Last Tiger or World at war.
The Last Tiger was pretty forgettable
Do a video on Call of duty world war 2, it is a little more accurate than this piece of garbage of inaccurate game
for the 34-85s i think they just watched "Stalingrad" (1993) and saw that they had 34-85s (cuz that was all they could get at the time) and went: "yes, lets get those ones!"
Not to forget Serbs, Romani and so many other peoples who were seen as sub-humans too
The binoculars are used due to their better FOV(Field of View) this will allow her to easily relocate the target from her scope based on the more detail she could pick up with the binoculars. Not only that it would also allow her to find more targets quicker and take better notes on their location so she can find them easier when she is on her scope
I'm not a fan of anime, I especially hate it when I see historical vehicles, weapons and what not turned into anime girls and at first I was thrown away by just looking at some of your video cover pictures. But I see you do justice to history and I like how you point out inaccuracies along explaining why they are wrong and how they should be shown to be accurate to real life events. Big respect for that man.
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it have pistol grip which is DPM (late 1943 if not '44 gun) feature though tbf its more like a mix of models because og stock and no recoil spring above it. it also says "105 round pans" which it never had. what Im trying to say is what I wouldnt count it as a gun "without problems" haha
31:19 You're not wrong, why is there a Sherman?
Little fun fact, if they wanted to put a Sherman they should've put the M4A2, because it had a diesel engine, and was the only variant shipped to the Soviet Union. As well as giving it a 76mm M1A2 gun
Id love a version where you are zhukov hunting the guy down. Like full Christmas tree of medals and hes voiced by jason issacs.
Really got me with the raid shadow legends switch out
THANK YOU for giving credit to Mark Ivanir! Dude has been in damn near every game with a russian voice and he could carry any game with his experience and talent. Also he's of Ukrainian heritage so no doubt we'll hear him some more in the delayed Ukrainian developed titles coming up.
My friends like to point out that his slavic accent sounds fake because they hear him in every game, and when I point out that he's Ukrainian they just shut up.
came to the comments just to find out lol, his voice is so recognizable to me as i’ve played the metro games many times
I actually have a recommendation for the next review. Battlestations Pacific. I feel like it would be a good game to review
Is that the one where you can kill the protagonist of a previous game in the Pearl Harbor level ?
@@richardtouchstone5508 Yup. I mean, the game isn’t the most historically inaccurate thing with the American campaign as long as you don’t use unlocks lol.
However, the Japanese campaign is like… hoo boi
@@richardtouchstone5508 Battlestations pacific is a game where you take control of Japanese and American Naval/Air Forces. It has two campaigns. The More Historical realistic US campaign, and a Alternative history scenario with the Japanese campaign.
@@totalwar1793 the Japanese campaign is a alternative history type thing.
@@MISTERX_5890 Yeah that's true, but there are some weird things like many ships being commissioned before their actual date or airplanes being used before their actual dates.
Good examples are all 4 Iowas being present at the Invasion of Hawaii, which is a 1943 mission, along with B-29 Superfortresses.
The DP-27 has a big issue, it has a handgrip, it should be held like a rifle, the grip isnt introduced until the DPM