How to Setup Your Air Suspension for Ride Quality or Performance
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มิ.ย. 2024
- Maybe the single biggest benefit of upgrading to Air Suspension is it's adjustability. But with great adjustability comes a great ability to F&#* it up if you don't know exactly how much flexibility a quality system can offer.
Whether you've switched to air to get as low as possible or because your looking for a ride more comfortable than coils were offering; you can ABSOLUTELY achieve that with Air Suspension AND while getting the ride height that has your car looking dialed from the curb.
Will from Bag Riders is here to explain a few key concepts you need to know while you're dialing in the feel of your new suspension!
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00:00 -- How to Setup Your Air Suspension for Ride Quality or Performance
00:27 -- What makes Air Suspension so adjustable
01:06 -- Tweaking a divorced spring and shock vs. a true 4 corner adjustment
01:50 -- Different goals for performance vs comfort
02:06 -- Wheel Deflection
02:54 -- Why you would want a stiff spring-rate
03:18 -- Side-note on making adjustments to your Air Suspension
03:49 -- Finding a comfortable ride quality at a low drive height
04:20 -- Adjusting a lower mount on Air Suspension
04:41 -- How to adjusting threaded length of Air Suspension while it's installed
05:24 -- Side effects of changing the threaded length of your Air Suspension
06:20 -- Finding a balance for body height and air pressure
07:09 -- Different brands have different "standard" setups
08:05 -- How to adjust your dampers for Air Suspension
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I had no idea you could spin the bag to adjust the height! Thank you for this informative video Bagriders!
Just to clarify! You want to spin the damper, in the video we use the bag as a method of spinning the entire assembly. As long as the bag is locked to the damper, and your lower mount has the lockring loosened up, you can use this method.
@@bagriders Oh I see! Thank you for clearing that up
Great video! On my vw bug which was my very first bagged vehicle that I built all the bag brackets for I had no clue on bag geometry so I set it up as best as I could. I ended up taking the collapsed height and the max extended height and figured out the middle distance. From there I adjusted my suspension to the ride height I wanted and made the mounts at that middle distance of the bag travel. The bag never bottomed out or over extended and gave me a really good ride(a little on the stiffer side but not bad at all still plenty of cushion) when I would launch hard it would squat down about an inch and a half and dig(it was about 120 psi on ss6 bags) since then I've always used that middle of the travel setup at ride height with great success
You guys make amazing videos. Thank you for this video.
Awesome video, so glad I found you guys for my airbag journey.
Currently learning how to wire everything up for my 3p. So far it’s easy but I think if yall could Release a Step by Step guide that would be nice .
That's definitely something we want to do.
Badass video!!
great video.
Thx
👏Good job good job 😎🚘 cool
I just used this video to extend the front struts on my 2014 Mustang GT. I was needing to put just over 100PSI to get my car to the desired ride height and it pretty rough. Now I can actually run the recommended PSI of 55 and the car rides so much better. And still airs out the same amount as before. Thank you!
Heck yeah! I'm glad to hear that!
How come it still airs out the same amount?
@@towedoninsta9170
It seems that his suspension was initially shortened too much, which required him to inflate it to 100 psi to achieve the desired ride height. Because the suspension was so compressed, he was likely lowering the car to its lowest point while there was still air in the bags. This meant that the full stroke of the suspension wasn't being utilized.
That's a great video. °○° 😊 👏😎🚘
Wish I knew this back in 2016. 😅
I'm building a vip style LS400 and i want the ride quality premium but also lower it by a decent bit not too much maybe like 2-3 inches should i go with airlift performance kit? Or something else?
You mentioned 'premium', and that's music to our ears! Fortunately, we've crafted a kit tailor-made for the LS400, and if you're aiming for top-notch performance, the Super Low Air Suspension is precisely what you're after! It's has threaded damper bodies so you can adjust it to your likening although we always recommend leaving it how it came out of the box. Checkout some of our LS400 videos on our channel.
No wonder why I’m rubbing hardcore. Thank you for this video
Novice beginner, 54 bel air , had somewhat close pressures for each wheel, for best control and comfort, shipped vehicle Sat for a while lost notes. Best recommendation on where to start over for max control and comfort, start lower pressures and cruise a bit?
That can depend on the type of damper you use front and rear. With air struts with the bag sealed to the shaft, yes we like to start at a lower pressure and test drive it. With your Bel Air, the same logic should apply, though it will be a lot less sensitive to topping out, compared to a McPherson style setup. That means a broader range of pressures will work comfortably.
Higher the more woblly and less control? Or not exactly @@bagriders
@@eliacasanova4217 Having your control arms parallel to the ground at your ride pressure is a great starting point. Having it a little higher(taller) than that won't necessarily cause wobbliness but will impact your spindle and wheel camber angle. Let us know if you want more info.
How do I know if my air spring is bottoming out or topping out? Cause when I accidentally hit a small pot hole, I heard a loud-ish thud sound… but I’m following the specs you guys recommend for my GR86. This is on the Super Low suspension and I mainly hear it in the rear.
Air ride is not prone to common bottoming out issues because the PSI pushing your car upward (against gravity and downward forces) becomes increasing strong. Progressive coils springs are like this as well. So I would be with 95% odds that the sound is topping out!
How would drifting on bags go?
A well configured suspension being operated in the correct travel ranges will work for Motorsport or for daily driving. There's nothing about bags that prevent them from being used for drifting, so go for it!
I wish your shocks had more rebound damping. Mine is super harsh topping out. compression is fine but rebound is terrible
The majority of our suspension offerings boast 30+ way adjustability, providing ample opportunity to tailor your ride precisely to your preferences. Should you desire assistance in optimizing your suspension setup, don't hesitate to reach out to our dedicated customer support team at sales@bagriders.com or call us at 844-404-7344. We're committed to ensuring you're equipped with the ideal pressure settings for your vehicle.
Hey guys. When you say make it stiff, you mean max psi/pressure same as one indicated on the bag? Ex. 100psi Thanks
When discussing 'stiffness,' we're not referring to the maximum PSI. Instead, we define 'stiff' as operating at a pressure higher than the manufacturer's recommended ride PSI. However, even at this elevated pressure, the damper retains its ability to utilize its range of travel.
@@bagriders Good to know . Thank you so much
What should I do to eliminate the thumping in the suspension 🤔
What sort of thumping? Are you experiencing this at the most extended point in the travel range, or the most compressed point in the travel range? Does it occur over bumps, or all the time?
@bagriders over bumps I'm running airtekk stage 2 plus and 104 in the front and 94 in the rear. The front damper is at 10 and the rear is at 15.
@@RiseOfTheSonata2.0t If it occurs over bumps, you are very likely topping out. You'll need to determine if it's coming from the front or rear.
@@bagriders it's coming from the front the most.
@@RiseOfTheSonata2.0t I would try to thread them up to be a little taller (longer) as shown in the video, and then go for a test drive at a slightly lower pressure.
I have a full set of air struts that I just can get to ride right at all. Can you guys give me some tips/tricks to get me going?
Try adjusting your pressures in 5PSI increments to see how the car reacts. If you purchased the kit from bagriders.com please reach out to us for the recommended pressures for your air ride kit.
@@bagriders you know I did not buy from you, but I sure wish I had.
Great video Will, love the recent content you’re putting out. Do you have recommended air pressures for SuperLow? At least for Air Lift, people run the bags with too much or too little air pressure, and the struts top and bottom out. It’s really important to get your ride height at mid stroke of the shock for the best ride quality.
We would be more than happy to provide the recommended air pressures for our Super Low suspension! What is the year, make and model of the car as each kit has a different ride pressure.
Thank you guys for putting out all this information. It’s very useful and appreciated. You guys rock. 🫡👍🏼👍🏼👌🏼💪🏽