@@thejose970 still they should have just stuck with one design. Personally I like the version with the hinges because it is a small upgrade that would be easy to do. The hole bottom plate turning just looks weird.
As pointed out by Mike Walton, if you've ever built the MPC model, the whole disk is supposed to rotate. It's been a long time, but if memory serves, both dorsal and ventral were able to rotate independently. They probably didn't in the original movie due to budgetary and model constraints, but with the advent of higher budgets, better models, and CGI, it was possible to finally make the turrets do what they were supposed to from the start. Additional articulation of the turret mounts allows a secondary method of slewing the guns to the target if the turret disk is damaged or inoperable. The disk and mounts would likely have different power sources as well, for additional redundancy. Weapon systems on naval vessels in real life are upgraded or modified at times during their lifespan to add or change capabilities. It just makes good sense that it would be the same here.
The problem with rotating the whole disk is that the ladder behind the actor would change position as it rotates which we never see. That is unless the rotation of the disk moves the ladder and turret access tube along with it, but that would misalign the ladder and tube from the opposite disk.
The turrets are easily explained by the fact that the whole disc can rotate, as other comments have mentioned. The real issue here has to do with scale - given the thickness (top to bottom) of the ship, there is absolutely no way to fit two of these turret cockpits, AND a ladder between them. The ship would have to be twice as thick to scale in that much interior as seen in the films.
👍🏻 I noticed that when building the model. The only room for the gunners seat was suspended right in the middle of the ship. Definitely no room for another one let alone an access tunnel.
What are you talking about? The Falcon literally can turn that circular section so the turret can turn. It’s not “dA nEw mOvIEz tHrowiNg lOgiC aWay”. It’s literally using logic to fix something that was illogical in the original films. Also, “bad writing” is incorrect, no matter how you spin it.
The whole turret section rotates. Its been that way from the beginning. The early AMT model kit had that feature. The StarWars technical journal also illustrated this feature. The redesign shows that the new filmmakers didnt fully grasp the mechanics in question.
I lilike the rotating plate idea. I can well imagine the ship receiving upgrades and modifications to address its shortcomings. I do not like the triple hinge, however.
But why should it rotate? That rotation does not affect the view angle! And it is physically impossible, if you think about how the gun turret looks inside.
Having the entire turret rotate, to my knowledge was actually done in the Rogue Squadron games first. It would also be necessary to rectify the orientation of the ladder compared to the guns.
If you look closely, the pilot's seat is not rotated along with the round plate. The gunner position is a crazy, almost ompossible mechanical contraption if you would want to make it work like it is shown in the sequels.
Even as a kid I knew the cannons could fire backwards. The turrets do rotate and have always rotated. I had the toy and even built the models, the entire turret assembly rotates. FYI I saw the original release in 1977, I was 10 years old.
BEST option would have been the entire laser creation system inside and the beam channeled through mirrors or magnetic confinement tubes to shoot through a small optic module. Meaning the entire gun inside the hull and the laser or plasma blast exiring by a small external shaf device.
Fine Molds was a scale model manufacturer that made the best star wars models in the late 90s and early 2000s. They had access to the Lucasfilm archive. They made a 1/72 scale Millennium Falcon with a spinning turret mechanism as shown in the sequels, literally a decade or more before the sequels. The instructions told you to not glue the pieces together so that you could spin that section, and also the pictures showed the whole platform in different orientations to let you know about that feature. And that model was an expensive replica. The best you could buy at the time. Not a toy by any means. An almost one thousand pieces scale model for expert modelers. So I don't think ILM would've allowed that bold feature if it wasn't canon, and I don't think Fine Molds would've come up with it considering that scale models are all about accuracy to the point that we modelers actually call ourselves "rivet counters" sometimes, cause we tend to obsess over the little details and we do not want anything that wasn't supposed to be there. The spinning turret also appeard in videogames and toys but to me, the fact that a licensed and pretty expensive replica, and a scale model no less (it's all about details' accuracy) had such a daring feature makes it 100% canon even before the sequels. Plus, these things have to go through the approval of the license owner, Lucasfilm, to see if there's something that needs to be changed before release, so Lucasfilm must have approved it at some point. Now I'm not saying the original studio models had this feature, cause I don't think they did, and that's why other replicas don't have it, like the Master Replicas falcon or the Bandai Perfect Grade. But it's a no brainer for me that within the sw canon this very much existed before the sequels.
The whole disk is supposed to be able to turn. You ever built the old MPC model? It’s designed so that the whole gun disk can rotate. It’s supposed to do that! And it’s always been that way. This is why I hate SW fans.
Yep, we've been discussing this back when The Force Awakens came out, The 90 degree yoke first appeared in TFA, not just in the Rian Johnston film...www.therpf.com/forums/threads/the-force-awakens-millennium-falcon-projects.246235/page-31
Personally i think the turrets having more hinge points makes a lot more sense than the rotating plate. The port hole isnt centred so for the plate to rotate, the entire gunner section has to spin, meaning that the falcon could only fire 1 direction at a time on both turrets
The gun mounts have always been able to rotate. Return of the jedi model from the late 80s and early 90s was the only model to have this feature. look it up there is a vid on youtube. Ive been wanting to find that model for a long time
That's interesting! But still it's not a good idea, although it's apparently an old idea. In Return of the Jedi a Falcon Laser turret scenes was planned, but skipped. Maybe they wanted to fix the dead angle problem already back then.
@@Xubor No... more like it was a fox film from the 70s If you were a true fan you would know that they did not have the budget. the cantina scene in the origonal filming. you will find the wolf man and death in the background they were using monster outfits from the studio wardrobe. The turrets didn't turn because there was no money or time to make them turn. If you want to. re watch the video as he rants about the turrets. the lower turret finn was manning did in fact rotate from forwards to rear position.
You realize the rotating plate was a thing before episode VII, right? J.J. Abrams didn't come up with the idea. I swear, people will find literally any reason to hate the sequels, even if that reason wasn't the sequels' fault to begin with.
@@Xubor they can’t explain everything. If you noticed, the x-wings and tie fighters changed. Who knew the tie’s had tail gunner...that was definitely new to me.
I wondered about that just now when building the lego Version, and had to search for an answer!! I personally like the rotating Mechanism because it makes sense to me! It was fairly easy to include in my lego model too, so now I can shoot potential pursuers!!
So why CAN’T the gun pods rotate on an axis?… just because it didn’t in the early movies doesn’t mean it wasn’t designed to do it… Han made all kinds of mods to the ship… I doubt such a huge design flaw would go unfixed
Really nice video. I always noticed the difference but the first time seeing a video about it. But I actually like that they fixed it in the new movies. In fact one of the few things I like about the new movies.
This is news to me lmao. It’s that cannon? I’ve always just accepted that it wasn’t correct. Is their a flux capacitoresk machine that is acknowledged to change the direction of gravity?
I never thought about this. I am building a model that will have lasers shot at an angle. Based on the model the entire rear is exposed and you can't shoot anything behind you.
rotating the structure around the gimbal isn't that bad of an idea. adding hinges kind of messes with my head though. there's gimbaling guns on slower moving turrets IRL especially on AA mounts.
Great video. I have been fascinated with the Gun turrets since 1977. I do not like how they have messed them around in the new films. They were such a great design used sparingly in the original trilogy. The turrets are not central on the ship as indicated by the windows. A rotating turret means that the occupant would also be rotating on his seat. The ladder is fixed inside the turret, hence there is no way either would spin. The ladder on the set is incorrectly positioned, appearing behind each gunner seat. The turret is approached from the angle of the cockpit corridor. The ladder should appear to the left shoulder of the top and bottom turret gunner. Viewing the exterior set of the Falcon, there is no way that the turrets can fit in there. Not enough room.
@@reydolla it does affect it, because the gunner sections arent centred, behind it are ship components that would have to spin along with the gunner section
Great analysis here man, i appreciate the time and effort. However, lets not forget that awesome flying piece of junk got stolen from Han several years ago before it reappeared on the scanners, so a lot of previous "owners" could modified it just in the way you say, the whole gun mount being able to rotate as shown @ 3:34, dont you think?
From an enineering perspective it makes no sense to rotate a 4 meter steel plate just to turn a 2 meters gun. Plus, the gunner 's seat is not rotated along with the gun. It is super illogical and overcomplicated. Funny: on the cover of the old Lando Calrissian novel there is the Falcon with different guns which make much more sense. 🙂
Fair point, also can be only a rotor added to the mount and they left the rest intact. Who knows? Engineering goes in the way of the guy with the welder! ;)
That one is actually awesome ;) Maybe you can argue that it is redundant, because you could actually use the lower turret to fire at ground troops as well.
So is Flynn sitting facing down. It looks like it. But he’s not. I’d not get it either. Other than these film makers not being as good as they’re praised so much for. Please explain this to me someone?
I can kind of see why I like the milliunium falcon better but it is more rather complex and confusing at times while the ghosts turrets well make sense as the turret on top is a bubble turret with full visual front sides and back the turret on the front of the ship under the cockpit and the 1st Phantom as a extra rear support if it's facing backwards, the millennium falcon has it's super weird gunner positions and it's gravity is much different, the turrets are weird and it's looks from the first perpective as it looks like it's not moving a whole lot but I still like the ship didn't notice the Gunner positions were facing down and up opposite of each other and looking at it now is so weird
I say having the guns hinged is not biggie, especially for a universe where hyperspace and light sabers are a reality. I am more troubled by the fact that the guns need gunners. I would think that having computers control the guns would make more sense. But I can also see that making the MF similar to a WWII bomber where gunners had to man the guns is more rich visually and makes for a more exciting scene. Also that it shows that whoever is manning the guns (Luke, Han, Finn, Rey, etc) would have exceptional eye-hand coordination and there would be more merit with each kill for the gunner rather than for the computer.
Great video reminding me why I don't care for the recent star wars trilogy. Kinda random but a much greater THANK YOU is needed for making the Ketzer, my favorite TA unit😁
I always figured the button plate rotated, and that allowed for a 360° firing. As for the gun bending over itself in The Last Jedi, dude it's THE LAST JEDI, everything in that movie is totally fucked up. There is literally nothing right about The Last Jedi.
As u can see in ep 7 the gunner's seat stays fixed when the plate rotates. This alone makes no sense and is physically impossible, given that the gun port is not in the middle of the plate. And no engineer would create a 5 meter hinge to turn a 2 meter cannon ;)
i’m not going to get this time back, it was pointless whining about a minor flaw that can easily be explained by ‘the falcon is a freighter, so it’s easy to modify with common parts’
Who gives a shit dude. Maybe they upgraded the falcon over the years to have this new calability. It's got a new antenna after all. Michael J. Straczynki, the creator of Babylon 5 (one of the best sci-fi shows of all time) said that one day at a fan convention a fan asked him what the top speed of an Omega class destroyer was, and his reply was: " As fast as the plot requires it to be." So stop being a dork and just enjoy the film for what it is! SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF! Peace.
Wanker, ALL navies screw up but ALL navies find way to incrementally advance their tech. NO, the MF ain't ANYBODY'S navy anymore but does that really change things? Do hot rods not incrementally upgrade? The bad guys in The Matrix upgrade. I upgrade (yeah, it's Win 10 schitt but hey, XP can't last forever!)...
The fact that there are fans this anal about a fictional movie really cracks me up.....if you can pretend that the story is really happening in a galaxy far far away....then why can't you imagine that the original gun design can shoot backwards without knowing just how exactly it does so.....does it drive some fans crazy that they don't know exactly where in the universe this far away galaxy actually is located in relation to our own galaxy?......or where they so anal about it that they had to make that up as well and if so just how long did they all argue about and throw nerd tantrums?
I think the rotating plate makes sense. It's a subtle fix that doesn't affect continuity or the look of the ship
Understand that point of view. In my opinion they should have built in new guns. I mean, Han updated that ship all the time.
@@Xubor Yeah, and the corellian yt-1300 is supposed to be easily upgradable, since it's a modular ship
@@thejose970 still they should have just stuck with one design. Personally I like the version with the hinges because it is a small upgrade that would be easy to do. The hole bottom plate turning just looks weird.
As pointed out by Mike Walton, if you've ever built the MPC model, the whole disk is supposed to rotate. It's been a long time, but if memory serves, both dorsal and ventral were able to rotate independently. They probably didn't in the original movie due to budgetary and model constraints, but with the advent of higher budgets, better models, and CGI, it was possible to finally make the turrets do what they were supposed to from the start.
Additional articulation of the turret mounts allows a secondary method of slewing the guns to the target if the turret disk is damaged or inoperable. The disk and mounts would likely have different power sources as well, for additional redundancy.
Weapon systems on naval vessels in real life are upgraded or modified at times during their lifespan to add or change capabilities. It just makes good sense that it would be the same here.
Only because it's an early idea, it doesn't need to be a good idea.
The problem with rotating the whole disk is that the ladder behind the actor would change position as it rotates which we never see. That is unless the rotation of the disk moves the ladder and turret access tube along with it, but that would misalign the ladder and tube from the opposite disk.
The turrets are easily explained by the fact that the whole disc can rotate, as other comments have mentioned.
The real issue here has to do with scale - given the thickness (top to bottom) of the ship, there is absolutely no way to fit two of these turret cockpits, AND a ladder between them. The ship would have to be twice as thick to scale in that much interior as seen in the films.
👍🏻 I noticed that when building the model. The only room for the gunners seat was suspended right in the middle of the ship. Definitely no room for another one let alone an access tunnel.
Finally someone who has addressed the real white elephant in the room.
What are you talking about? The Falcon literally can turn that circular section so the turret can turn. It’s not “dA nEw mOvIEz tHrowiNg lOgiC aWay”. It’s literally using logic to fix something that was illogical in the original films.
Also, “bad writing” is incorrect, no matter how you spin it.
The whole turret section rotates. Its been that way from the beginning. The early AMT model kit had that feature. The StarWars technical journal also illustrated this feature. The redesign shows that the new filmmakers didnt fully grasp the mechanics in question.
I still have my Built AMT model. Both upper and Lower turrets rotate.
Having the thing rotate is just good turret design, though
it's like... what all tanks do my dude
Is there anything’s saying the bottom circle part can’t rotate? It looks like it can
I’ve seen the bottom turret rotate like that in games and merchandise pre Disney’s acquisition of Lucasfilm
I lilike the rotating plate idea. I can well imagine the ship receiving upgrades and modifications to address its shortcomings. I do not like the triple hinge, however.
But why should it rotate? That rotation does not affect the view angle! And it is physically impossible, if you think about how the gun turret looks inside.
@@Xubor I'm more bothered by the tie fighter cockpits not matching inside vs outside.
Having the entire turret rotate, to my knowledge was actually done in the Rogue Squadron games first. It would also be necessary to rectify the orientation of the ladder compared to the guns.
If you look closely, the pilot's seat is not rotated along with the round plate. The gunner position is a crazy, almost ompossible mechanical contraption if you would want to make it work like it is shown in the sequels.
The top turret becomes even more impractical when you realize how big of a blind spot the radar dish creates for port side targets at 10 o clock.
Even as a kid I knew the cannons could fire backwards. The turrets do rotate and have always rotated. I had the toy and even built the models, the entire turret assembly rotates. FYI I saw the original release in 1977, I was 10 years old.
BEST option would have been
the entire laser creation system inside
and the beam channeled through mirrors or magnetic confinement tubes
to shoot through a small optic module.
Meaning the entire gun inside the hull
and the laser or plasma blast exiring by a small external shaf device.
Haha, yes!
I've been wondering this stuff for years! I agree with your findings! Fantastic!
Fine Molds was a scale model manufacturer that made the best star wars models in the late 90s and early 2000s. They had access to the Lucasfilm archive. They made a 1/72 scale Millennium Falcon with a spinning turret mechanism as shown in the sequels, literally a decade or more before the sequels. The instructions told you to not glue the pieces together so that you could spin that section, and also the pictures showed the whole platform in different orientations to let you know about that feature. And that model was an expensive replica. The best you could buy at the time. Not a toy by any means. An almost one thousand pieces scale model for expert modelers. So I don't think ILM would've allowed that bold feature if it wasn't canon, and I don't think Fine Molds would've come up with it considering that scale models are all about accuracy to the point that we modelers actually call ourselves "rivet counters" sometimes, cause we tend to obsess over the little details and we do not want anything that wasn't supposed to be there. The spinning turret also appeard in videogames and toys but to me, the fact that a licensed and pretty expensive replica, and a scale model no less (it's all about details' accuracy) had such a daring feature makes it 100% canon even before the sequels. Plus, these things have to go through the approval of the license owner, Lucasfilm, to see if there's something that needs to be changed before release, so Lucasfilm must have approved it at some point. Now I'm not saying the original studio models had this feature, cause I don't think they did, and that's why other replicas don't have it, like the Master Replicas falcon or the Bandai Perfect Grade. But it's a no brainer for me that within the sw canon this very much existed before the sequels.
The whole disk is supposed to be able to turn. You ever built the old MPC model? It’s designed so that the whole gun disk can rotate. It’s supposed to do that! And it’s always been that way. This is why I hate SW fans.
"They didn't dare to fuck around with the look of the upper turret." 😂😂😂
Same logic issue could be applied to "EVERY ONE" of the movies. But the older films get "built in immunity" from criticism.
I always thought that button plate rotated, even as a kid.
Yep, we've been discussing this back when The Force Awakens came out, The 90 degree yoke first appeared in TFA, not just in the Rian Johnston film...www.therpf.com/forums/threads/the-force-awakens-millennium-falcon-projects.246235/page-31
A rotating plate actually makes sense.
Personally i think the turrets having more hinge points makes a lot more sense than the rotating plate. The port hole isnt centred so for the plate to rotate, the entire gunner section has to spin, meaning that the falcon could only fire 1 direction at a time on both turrets
The gun mounts have always been able to rotate. Return of the jedi model from the late 80s and early 90s was the only model to have this feature. look it up there is a vid on youtube. Ive been wanting to find that model for a long time
That's interesting! But still it's not a good idea, although it's apparently an old idea. In Return of the Jedi a Falcon Laser turret scenes was planned, but skipped. Maybe they wanted to fix the dead angle problem already back then.
@@Xubor No... more like it was a fox film from the 70s If you were a true fan you would know that they did not have the budget. the cantina scene in the origonal filming. you will find the wolf man and death in the background they were using monster outfits from the studio wardrobe. The turrets didn't turn because there was no money or time to make them turn. If you want to. re watch the video as he rants about the turrets. the lower turret finn was manning did in fact rotate from forwards to rear position.
You realize the rotating plate was a thing before episode VII, right? J.J. Abrams didn't come up with the idea.
I swear, people will find literally any reason to hate the sequels, even if that reason wasn't the sequels' fault to begin with.
Not true! Except you are talking about some extended universe stuff, I have no clue about that.
The perspective is impossible in ANH
These turrets have never made sense to me
I’ve always thought that is a genius design! Rotating gives you 360 and 180 reach to x and y axis on top and bottom! 🤷♂️
From ROTJ to TFA, there’s a lot of time in between...Han or someone else could had made some mods on their own
True. I'm totally okay with them fixing it, but I'm not okay with HOW they did!
@@Xubor they can’t explain everything. If you noticed, the x-wings and tie fighters changed. Who knew the tie’s had tail gunner...that was definitely new to me.
I wondered about that just now when building the lego Version, and had to search for an answer!! I personally like the rotating Mechanism because it makes sense to me! It was fairly easy to include in my lego model too, so now I can shoot potential pursuers!!
Why not design a new turret that can always fire to the rear? ;)
So why CAN’T the gun pods rotate on an axis?… just because it didn’t in the early movies doesn’t mean it wasn’t designed to do it… Han made all kinds of mods to the ship… I doubt such a huge design flaw would go unfixed
Are you positively 1000% sure that the falcon couldn’t have been modified in the 30 YEARS since the OT
Really nice video. I always noticed the difference but the first time seeing a video about it. But I actually like that they fixed it in the new movies. In fact one of the few things I like about the new movies.
Yes, I just wish they did it a bit differently ;)
Bruh the ship was owned for someone else for like 20 years you really think they wouldn’t have modified it?
If you're going to have artificial gravity, you might as well have variable or localized artificial gravity.
This is news to me lmao. It’s that cannon? I’ve always just accepted that it wasn’t correct. Is their a flux capacitoresk machine that is acknowledged to change the direction of gravity?
Soooo... It's not possible that the ship got refitted with upgraded weaponry? Han was a General, after all.
No one cares!
I never thought about this. I am building a model that will have lasers shot at an angle. Based on the model the entire rear is exposed and you can't shoot anything behind you.
rotating the structure around the gimbal isn't that bad of an idea. adding hinges kind of messes with my head though. there's gimbaling guns on slower moving turrets IRL especially on AA mounts.
Bro come on. Your telling me you didn’t read the cannon novel that has a whole chapter when Chewie upgraded the Falcon?
Great video.
I have been fascinated with the Gun turrets since 1977.
I do not like how they have messed them around in the new films.
They were such a great design used sparingly in the original trilogy.
The turrets are not central on the ship as indicated by the windows.
A rotating turret means that the occupant would also be rotating on his seat.
The ladder is fixed inside the turret, hence there is no way either would spin.
The ladder on the set is incorrectly positioned, appearing behind each gunner seat.
The turret is approached from the angle of the cockpit corridor.
The ladder should appear to the left shoulder of the top and bottom turret gunner.
Viewing the exterior set of the Falcon, there is no way that the turrets can fit in there. Not enough room.
crazytalk! and how about the interior/exterior discrepancy of Tie's viewport design! :0
He found a way
The entire disk that holds the guns spin.
But that doesn't work either. as the access tubes would be broken. Actually, nothing works. The inside is a lot bigger than the outside.
@@cnhawk8371 the disk spin and thath doesn't affect the acces.
@@reydolla it does affect it, because the gunner sections arent centred, behind it are ship components that would have to spin along with the gunner section
Great analysis here man, i appreciate the time and effort. However, lets not forget that awesome flying piece of junk got stolen from Han several years ago before it reappeared on the scanners, so a lot of previous "owners" could modified it just in the way you say, the whole gun mount being able to rotate as shown @ 3:34, dont you think?
From an enineering perspective it makes no sense to rotate a 4 meter steel plate just to turn a 2 meters gun. Plus, the gunner 's seat is not rotated along with the gun. It is super illogical and overcomplicated.
Funny: on the cover of the old Lando Calrissian novel there is the Falcon with different guns which make much more sense. 🙂
Fair point, also can be only a rotor added to the mount and they left the rest intact. Who knows? Engineering goes in the way of the guy with the welder! ;)
04:00 thats not's stupid, in fact it's a great idea better than the giratory turret.
1: They're not turbolasers.
2: Gun mount swivels.
The top one last time used during the battle endor
The millennium can be modified. Like what han solo said in episode 4. He made some special modifications him self to the falco
that’s what what the bottom laser turret is for shooting behind them
What about the auto turret from Empire Strikes Back ? I'm just curious
That one is actually awesome ;) Maybe you can argue that it is redundant, because you could actually use the lower turret to fire at ground troops as well.
They’re laser cannons not turbo lasers
So is Flynn sitting facing down. It looks like it. But he’s not. I’d not get it either. Other than these film makers not being as good as they’re praised so much for. Please explain this to me someone?
Yeah the bottom turret is the best position to be
This is why i like the Ghost better.
I can kind of see why I like the milliunium falcon better but it is more rather complex and confusing at times while the ghosts turrets well make sense as the turret on top is a bubble turret with full visual front sides and back the turret on the front of the ship under the cockpit and the 1st Phantom as a extra rear support if it's facing backwards, the millennium falcon has it's super weird gunner positions and it's gravity is much different, the turrets are weird and it's looks from the first perpective as it looks like it's not moving a whole lot but I still like the ship didn't notice the Gunner positions were facing down and up opposite of each other and looking at it now is so weird
the fact that youre calling it a turbolaser shows how little you understand about star wars. theyre laser cannons
I say having the guns hinged is not biggie, especially for a universe where hyperspace and light sabers are a reality.
I am more troubled by the fact that the guns need gunners. I would think that having computers control the guns would make more sense. But I can also see that making the MF similar to a WWII bomber where gunners had to man the guns is more rich visually and makes for a more exciting scene.
Also that it shows that whoever is manning the guns (Luke, Han, Finn, Rey, etc) would have exceptional eye-hand coordination and there would be more merit with each kill for the gunner rather than for the computer.
Either way still my favorite ship of Star Wars.
Great video reminding me why I don't care for the recent star wars trilogy. Kinda random but a much greater THANK YOU is needed for making the Ketzer, my favorite TA unit😁
Thats not Lucas fault! Its Disney's!
If look at the model the top is front facing and the bottom is aft facing.
I always figured the button plate rotated, and that allowed for a 360° firing. As for the gun bending over itself in The Last Jedi, dude it's THE LAST JEDI, everything in that movie is totally fucked up. There is literally nothing right about The Last Jedi.
As u can see in ep 7 the gunner's seat stays fixed when the plate rotates. This alone makes no sense and is physically impossible, given that the gun port is not in the middle of the plate.
And no engineer would create a 5 meter hinge to turn a 2 meter cannon ;)
i’m not going to get this time back, it was pointless whining about a minor flaw that can easily be explained by ‘the falcon is a freighter, so it’s easy to modify with common parts’
Feckin' sequels.
Hmien got Fritz. Ve ver yoo busy enchoying ze mofy to notiZ ze fesighn flauee😂
@@mistytharpe3991 Mein Herr, zat's vy yu alvays miss ze important schtuff.
Who gives a shit dude. Maybe they upgraded the falcon over the years to have this new calability. It's got a new antenna after all.
Michael J. Straczynki, the creator of Babylon 5 (one of the best sci-fi shows of all time) said that one day at a fan convention a fan asked him what the top speed of an Omega class destroyer was, and his reply was: " As fast as the plot requires it to be."
So stop being a dork and just enjoy the film for what it is! SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF! Peace.
Alright this has to be the stupidest critique of the sequels I’ve ever seen, what by fixing the dumb turret design?
Wanker, ALL navies screw up but ALL navies find way to incrementally advance their tech. NO, the MF ain't ANYBODY'S navy anymore but does that really change things? Do hot rods not incrementally upgrade? The bad guys in The Matrix upgrade. I upgrade (yeah, it's Win 10 schitt but hey, XP can't last forever!)...
Neeeeerd!
Not very nice dude! Show some respect!
Just to let you know, it's Star Wars. Not real life.
Fiction should never be stupid an unreasonably unrealistic just on the basis that it's not based off 100% real life
Thank you for pointing that out ;))
The fact that there are fans this anal about a fictional movie really cracks me up.....if you can pretend that the story is really happening in a galaxy far far away....then why can't you imagine that the original gun design can shoot backwards without knowing just how exactly it does so.....does it drive some fans crazy that they don't know exactly where in the universe this far away galaxy actually is located in relation to our own galaxy?......or where they so anal about it that they had to make that up as well and if so just how long did they all argue about and throw nerd tantrums?
Yet you seem to care because you shared your opinion.