Dawkins Endorses God! Ham Buys Dinoland! - (Ken) Ham & AiG News
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- Ken Ham and his team have a weekly "news" show, reacting to the news stories of the day from a Christian young-earth creation perspective from the Answers in Genesis staff at his Creation Museum.
I join Avery, Georgia, Roger and Bodie as they discuss - US Christianity declines; World Christianity rises; Dawkins supports religion and more during Answers News, broadcast live from the Creation Museum.
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"I'd be in jail if I wasn't a Christian." -Ray Comfort
At least he admits he's a garbage person. Shame he wasn't a Christian. At least in jail he wouldn't be able to do this kind of damage..
He probably should be in jail because of what he does DUE to being a christian... harassment of people in public spaces, scamming gullible fools out of their money. Telling countless lies about reality like "Evolution is not true, i know that cause i have a book"...
I used to think that way until I actually left Christianity.
That's why I say that with a lot of those "devout" christians, I'm hoping for the sake of humanity that they never lose their faith. If that's all that keeps them from being raving psychopaths, the very last thing they should ever do is lose their faith.
Sane people can be decent without a supernatural CCTV.
Religion never stopped crime and sin before. The religious can commit atrocities and say their deity told them to, or at the very least let their god take the blame.
@@jmaniak1 Even worse, according to their book all they have to say is "I'm sorry" and all is forgiven.
ray is absolutely correct: he'd be in jail if he didn't have religion to hide behind while pulling his con job.
*che zus* They were lying as usual; they are out for themselves, religious or not, which means avoiding jail.
Jesus Christ wasn’t a cop, so why does that make him better than me?
I love it.
The Nones pass the Nuns
None shall pass
@@birdjo6234 I already kicked the habit long ago.
@Kevin McDougall
LOL
When Dawkins seemingly endorses religious morality, an honest person would provide full context. This group of charlatans blatantly pounces on an opportunity to wholly misrepresent his thoughts.
Snake Man448 -- the Christian panel speaks as though atheists and Christians are separate species. Obviously we are all humans, so a Venn diagram of what atheists consider moral behaviors and what Christians consider moral behaviors would have a huge overlap. It's just a bizarre form of confirmation bias that they all assume that moral behavior can only come from the direction of a god.
Skeptic Psychologist -- true, but you have overlooked "muh feelings" as "evidence". I think that's why nations with the best science education have the lowest religiosity (and vice versa). Well educated people understand the difference between repeatable evidence and mere religious claims.
They may be lying sacks of shit, but at least they're consistent. They're consistently lying sacks of shit. Always have been, always will be.
Quote-mining is the lyingest, sack-of-shittiest misrepresentation you can do. You have to actively ignore some of what you have read/seen in order to deliberately fashion a lie. It's not spur-of-the-moment lying. It's not bullshitting (where you don't know if what you say is true or false). It's out-and-out premeditated dishonesty.
To misquote Miss Jean Brodie, they're the scum de la scum.
I can't think of anyone who has done more to expose the malignancy of religion, in the last 30 years, than Dawkins.
@@tonydarcy1606 Hitchens. But Dawkins comes a close second.
3:20 I wouldn't dismiss the correlation between Nicholas Cage films and people drowning in pools.
Haha!
For some reason my youtube closed captioning corrected you saying “answers in genesis” as “ass’s agenda”... sounds about right
"Welcome to polity ax."
great Video Paul, in 2009 I was Spiritually a Christian when asked and clarify never baptized- 2019 I claim atheist then clarify anti-theist. The world is a much better place now
I'm surprised Ham isn't planning on destroying any fossils he finds on that land.
It serves his purpose better to keep them as a curiosity for his customers to drool over while he preaches at them. So long as he denies the scientific community access to them, no harm can be done to his narrative through genuine study and accurate information. It's fucking infuriating.
@@thevampireyahweh5253 He'll probably sell them for money to build some dinosaur attraction.
@@mrapistevist nah, he'll just fleece taxpayer money using the bones as the main selling point.
No he is going to put a human skeleton with the dinosaur bones 🦴 then do a press release. Then say I told you so !
There have been calls in the Kenya parliament to destroy the skeleton of Lucy.
Once again, AIG doesn’t understand the law or legal history or even history. Scopes was prosecuted under a Tennessee law that forbade the teaching of evolution. Setting aside whether that means that a bunch of other states were teaching the science (they were), the law meant that evolution wasn’t on trial. In fact, the idea to put the science on trial was the defense’s, and the ACLU had supported Scopes as a test case for that reason. However, the judge ruled that the issue in the case was whether Scopes had taught evolution, as prohibited by the law, and not whether the science was correct. Consequently, he excluded all the defense witnesses as irrelevant and no testimony on the subject was admitted. What was admitted was examination and cross-examination of William Jennings Bryant as an expert on the Bible. (This is highly irregular, btw. Calling opposing counsel is generally not allowed.) The prosecution won not because evolution lost, but because, well, there was testimony that Scopes had violated the law by teaching the material and it was pretty much a slam dunk. That was fine with the Defense, because they were planning to appeal and win there. However, the judge fined Scopes $100, and under Tennessee law in 1925, all fines of more than $50 had to be recommended by a jury. So the conviction was thrown out and Scopes had moved (I believe), so the State never refilled the case.
Anyway, the conclusion that Scopes changed anything about the legal landscape or tested the legal position of the science shows an utter failure to check the facts or understand the legal issues in the case. I’m pretty sure all this is on Wikipedia.
Thank you. I was about to point out the Scopes trial wasn’t about evolution, but about the constitutionality of that Tennessee law.
In as much as Australian churches are pushing their faith, I'm quite surprised and happy to hear it's not as bad as it seems to be!
Australia ranks as the most secular-rational nation in the English-speaking/Anglo world: www.worldvaluessurvey.org/images/Culture_Map_2017_conclusive.png
This is from the World Values Survey. This is the goto source for academics, politicians, etc.
They don't measure just secularism and the only have definitions for traditional values. "Traditional values emphasize the importance of religion, parent-child ties, deference to authority, absolute standards and traditional family values. People who embrace these values also reject divorce, abortion, euthanasia and suicide. Societies that embrace these values have high levels of national pride and a nationalistic outlook."
As shown in this video, 80% of the people in India consider religion important, while ranking as more secular-rational than the USA. Granted, all religions and religious expressions aren't equal. Around 80% of the population in India believe in evolution, which is less than 50% in the USA. Evolution doesn't contradict Indian religions/philosophies. In fact, only one of the 9 Indian religions/philosophies has a place for God in it. The others are athestic.
Maybe they're leaving the religion bc you've been blatantly lying to them about demonstrable facts their whole lives
But ... I haven't?! O.O
@@whynottalklikeapirat to each their own
@@birdjo6234 Woosh
Bird Jo it’s so Trump-ian. The facts aren’t the facts! Stop looking at them!
Character is how you behave when no one else will know what you did.
@The Great Owl That is one way. I always remember that whatever I do, I'm the one who has to live with it, even if know one else knows.
@The Great Owl @Jim Myers If you have a conscience, even a promise to a child or an animal is binding. If you are like Ray Comfort and Eric Hovind in the clip at 10:13 and have to outsource your conscience, you have no morals at all.
Eric's dad managed to get into jail in spite of being a christian.
Ironically as a Christian you just need to pray to God for forgiveness and voila. God drops the rape / domestic violence / corruption charges.
@@mrrolandlawrence rape is only an offense, if the woman is married, otherwise pay her father 50 bucks and she is yours...
10:09 + so those 2 actually admit they are bad persons, yet want us to listen to them.
Silentsouls -- and that is why "lying for Jesus" is so popular among Christian apologists, especially evangelicals. Because if a god wants you to lie, it's not immoral. For them, immorality is only going _against_ a god's wishes. That's why all the genocides described in the Bible were moral actions -- because their god ordered them to do so. Truly sad....
07:22 - - "They're not growing, they're just growing at a slower rate."
"And you know the surest way to go broke? Keep getting an increasing share of a shrinking market." - Danny DeVito, "Other People's Money"
Shouldn't the second growing be shrinking?
Imagine a world with no religious discrimination or persecution. A world that fully embrace reality and science not solely on eelings and emotions.
We will always have reasons to neglect our fellow man and woman but I can only smile at the thought of one less reason.
Not to mention an immense amount of benefits gained from not turning away from science.
Awesome video as always Paul!
14:45 "Here's the thing ..." That is the best counter to the "borrow from Christian values" claim I've ever seen! I'm totally using this. Also, you should do a video just on this topic using all the examples. Love it!
It blows my mind that someone, who believes in a God that boils souls in oil forever, says their belief system is the basis for morality in the world.
How do you know it was the Skopes trial that lead to the teaching of evolution in schools? Were you there?
It wasn't exactly what we would today call a tipping point, but it was a pretty big deal. It didn't set legal precedent, but it catapulted the issue into the marketplace of ideas. The stage play and, later, the movie, 'Inherit the Wind' probably had a bigger influence. BTW, there are a number of good books on the triral, and a commom point of agreement is that the town fathers got together and did it as a publicty stunt.
Ark Encounter is soon changing it's name to "Ken Ham's Firewood Emporium"; right next to Comfort's Frozen Banana Stand.
Yay Paul and his Ham and Aigs!!! My favorite Playlist to replay through over and over hehe
3:55 They're Public Schools not "State" Schools Bodie. In the U.S. public schools are locally run. While there may be State and Federal mandates, local school districts still have a lot of autonomy in regards to curriculum.
I was one of those "I'd be in jail without Christianity", Christians. I am now a code-writing Atheist who is a fully functioning member of, and contributor to, society.
apparently you're impossible. congrats!
Good video. Thanks for sharing it with us and keep up your great work. We appreciate your efforts.
Christianity is declining.
Ten years ago, I would have said, 'Oh no!'
Now... I say, 'Yes!'
me too. high five.
So.. Eric admits on camera that he is a bad person , ony afraid for their sky daddy. WOW..
Tell me something I did not know yet.
3:17 most nicolas cage movies make me wanna drown myself in a pool
It is the best way to escape bees.
Chintex Watch Con Air. It's good.
Another piece of my Paulogia ReTourN 2023, with lots
of likey bits and comments this time through. Well
done and a tad tangy! Thanks.
Maybe Mr. Meadows will tour Gehenna soon?
I doubt I'm the first to mention this, she speaks so fast! WOW!!!
I think the videos are played faster
Paul speeds it up so we suffer less time! He's so nice.
The one great thing about being a youtube antitheist is you're never in danger of running out of stupid religious ideas to debunk.
@Trebuchet You may want to recheck that 1st definition. Atheism is a lack of belief in a god or gods no more no less. As for the level of apathy about religion, it is dependent on the individual atheist. Anti theism is a subset of Atheism.
@Smarticus I don't understand how any atheist is not also an anti-theist. How can one reject irrational, unsupported beliefs for themselves, and not strive to help others discard them. I'm convinced that our world would be a lot better place without the superstitions that people use to justify their inhumanity towards eachother.
@Smarticus I don't condone being overly pushy, and aggressive, but I can forgive a little proselytizing, considering that religion is always pushing itself in everyone's face.
And yes, religion isn't the only way people rationalize inhumane behavior, but it's always been a useful tool for those who wish to recruit followers with inhumane intentions. Religion is inherently divisive, by it's nature.
I've said it before but it remains true, I always get ads for Christianity right before these videos start and they always make me smile. Let 'em subsidize my atheism all they want!
"Creationism won that trial, but evolution got a platform."
Gonna call bullshit on that summary, as well as massive sour grapes on creationists.
4:20 I think ANYTHING to do with modern science counts as teaching evolution in Bodie's worldview.
13:43 Which at some point did include the stoning of homosexuals, non virgin girls, ...someone who worked on sabat ... or even someone who wore mixed fabric clothes ... among other atrocities
I was very surprised the other day while listening to some music from my childhood with my toddler son, when your theme song came on. It always sounded super familiar, but I never connected that it was a Sheron, Louis and Bram song. 🤯
From my experience, unfortunately, I've found the Colorado Western Slope to be even more religious than the Eastern Plains. The one saving grace is that right in that area is Dinosaur National Monument which is federal land operated by the National Park Service.
Great video Paul!
@14:25
"raise a barn on monday, soon I raise another" that scene always reminds me more of "Amish Paradise" then the movie Witness.
I wish I'd been taught 16 thousands hours of evolution. I wouldn't have to had wait until my 30's to learn how deep our understanding of evolution is.
The main church in Norway just released a poll from their members. 3 of 10 believes in god. And they were really satisfied with those numbers. I find that a bit amusing.
Are you playing the clips at Netflix speeds? I’m half expecting them to start selling micro machines. 😊
Best definition of 'Good' I've yet seen, man.
The percentage of people that wash their hands in the bathroom about doubles if someone else is in the bathroom. Simply being watched makes people more likely to do something that society expects and less likely to do something that society doesn't like.
It does really worry me that there are so many humans that seem to believe that if there isn't a "Big Daddy" of some sort watching and judging them, whether Gawd or the government or who knows what, they'd be the worst people around. It's a very worrisome situation.
Another episode! Thank the Lord
Good video.
You are are very methodical and point out Answers in Genesis hosts out when they are being unfair or misrepresenting (like in the example they used of Richard Dawkins).
@20:00 even bigger thanks for the heads up on the Mark Meadows flap. I'll give a nod to you in upcoming Evolution Hour, as I follow up on the info
oh good... there's a LOT to cover in that New Yorker article. I also have a link to the documentary the creationists produced if you're interested.
@@Paulogia The dramatis personae were enough for me. Joe Taylor rang bells, be touted the Civil War pterodactyls. omniology.com/LivingPterodactyls.html Since all Congressmen are up for reelection in 2020, I was happy to take Meadows' twaddle to him direct.
So the nones have passed the nuns.
Thank you. I've spent years training in a punnery.
It's ok to kick the habit, just take the nun out first.
Ray and Eric.....REALLY?? O_o You'd be bad without "a god"? You'd "be in jail"?
Well, I'm glad you think there is "a god", then. But I do as much "jail quality crime" as I want, as an atheist.....which is zero.
*Deavon Reye* There's no reason to start believing them now, they wouldn't know the truth if it hit them in the face!
@@BigHeretic Ha....true. I'm sure they were being untruthful in order to "make it seem like a god is necessary". :-)
I am compelled to be good in part because I know a fate of torment and misery awaits me if I am not good. If that were not the case I would commit crimes and be sent to prison.
@@tetsujin_144 So you don't think you're abiding by the law right now to stay out of prison? You don't refrain from stealing from your neighbour to avoid getting caught and losing their trust in you? Of course you do, because you prefer your liberty and you may need your neighbour's help in the future.
@@tetsujin_144 I....can only hope that your post was a clever bit of sarcasm. O_o
Paul, where did you find that map that you presented at the 2:15 point in the video? Very interesting how Ethiopia is 98 percent religious.
I can make wild correlations!
As data shows, with the drop in the importance of religion in almost a century, so have the deaths in armed conflicts dropped. Look at how terrible it was with the world wars, and how peaceful it is now. *Clearly* less religion has made the world peaceful!
Well TFG, it's a couple thousand years late but we'll take it 😎
10:00 I'm an atheist and I can say that I commit as much robbery and murder as I want. None at all.
But are you restrained because of your inner morality or the fear of serving jail time?
Wearing mixed fabrics does not hurt anyone, but wearing polyester makes the Brooks Brothers cry.
Never understood Theists telling me that I have no "basis for my morality". I do nice things and strive to be likeable because that makes me feel good. Is that so hard?
Been a while for a good old ham and egg news.
A big "thank you!" for speeding up the peanut gallery!
And here I thought you were talking about Ham buying Hovind's Dino Land
Paul I know you have more of these bombs to drop on AiG. The last half of the episode was a exciting as hell to watch. Placate the masses Paul, placate us.
I love your musical cues!
All power to you Paulogia, as the saying goes, 'all hero's don't wear capes'. How the hell you can listen to their inane rambling for hrs on end i do not know but it is a commendable public service that you're doing.
Note that in the USA a vast number of people identify as Christian even when they are agnostic/atheist/none. Culturally Christian is not being religious. Compare to Judaism.
@Trebuchet Yup. Most of us where I grew up were "went to church once in a blue moon" Christians.
"Morality Is Doing Right, No Matter What You Are Told.
Religion Is Doing What You Are Told, No Matter What Is Right." - H. L. Mencken
After a quick glance at the title, I thought Ken might have bought some land in Lenox Alabama.
Interesting that Kirk Johnson made that dinosaur quote as he grew up incredibly religious and now, thanks to science, he isn't. His book with Ray Troll, Cruising the Fossil Freeway, is still a favorite of my wife and myself.
Very great subjects.
6:38 I thought you said cold yeet 😹
“Science is the only true guide in life.” -Mustafa Kemal Atatürk. Founder of the Republic of Turkey.
You really should be more popular. Your videos are top notch and very educational.
please tell me the videos you're responding to is sped up . .
"Bodie says 16,000 hours are spent on evolution."
You have to remember that to Young Earth Creationists. "evolution" is "Everything that is not Young Earth Creationism and does not acknowledge the authority of Young Earth Creationism."
ugh. Gordon Conwell, My wife had started getting classes thru Gordon Conwell thru her local church. The church had an agreement with Gordon Conwell to send their "Teachers" to the church for about a period of 2 years. The Church would pay for the classes until they "graduated" and then the person would have to pay the church back.
My wife had just started her 1st semester when we met, and that's all she did. unfortunately, she still had to pay back that loan. not a big amount but I'm sure the church made money off it as well.
16000 hours of evolutional study... my daughter, who’s been in AP science classes since 5th grade, didn’t cover evolution AT ALL until her Sophomore year of high school in AP biology. And even that was basically 1 hour a day for two weeks, so 10 hours.
hm, dawkins was on rogan just a few days ago. he didn't sound like his stance on religion changed very much... and it seems like he fully recovered from his stroke :)
7:41 anyone else annoyed at the blatant trick they tried to pull here.
When they switch studies all they say is that they are going onto the next article which would imply that they are still using the same source but just another article from that source (especially when they made such a big deal about the source at the beginning and specifically named the source) but instead they are stealthily switching from a highly reputable neutral source to a biased questionable source.
Anyone who is just listening to them and not actively watching (for example if they are working, driving, cleaning, ect...) would think both articles are from the reputable first source and wouldn't even know that the sources switched.
One more person tells me I don't have a foundation for being good, I'm gonna give them a reason to believe that.
The Greeks were discussing the nature of good and evil when David was sending Uriah off to die in battle so David could shag Bathsheba. Some morality.
And don't forget the checkmate argument: We NEED a foundation for morality. Otherwise... eh... cats are sleeping with dogs and the world ends and all that jazz.
But anyway, just the fact that we have morality proves that it has a foundation. Morality emerged from causality and our evolution. Causality and preferring not to suffer and/or die is the foundation of our morality.
@@stylis666 Sounds like *Merovingian* ; "You see there is only one constant. One universal. It is the only real truth. Causality. Action, reaction. Cause and effect."
@@BigHeretic lol As annoying as I find his oversimplification, he is sort of right, if you ignore all the emergent phenomena, but they're still based in and limited to cause and effect.
Aargh... I hate it to say that he's right... But on the bright side, you don't have to be a bitter asshole to acknowledge that cause and effect is a thing, so there's that :D
4,40 TOGA! TOGA! TOGA! Brilliant. :)
is the stuff on stage sped up? i checked my speed settings several times.. either they all are on cocaine or the video is faster then normal.
Ugh, I just got an ad that made me feel slightly nauseated. It was for Inside Health...as far as I can tell they seem to be advocating chiropractic treatments for young children and she seemed to elude to vaccines being bad without out right saying it, that's how I understood it anyway. Even after looking at their website I'm not sure what they do exactly...I did see the ad on there website tho so if anyone decides to check it out and do a response video, please do let me know so I can check it out!
The desperation of dying christianity is in the fearful threats, yes. But it is even more in the 'I must get this message out at a mile a minute' before our time is up.
To be fair, sometimes I do bring the cold heat when I get real riled up.
@08:00 thanks for that heads up on the supposed decline of atheism study, will add that to my TIP data field.
In a very surprising upset, underdog Democratic Attorney General Andy Beshear has won his gubernatorial bid over incumbent GOP Governor Matt Bevin, a staunch Trump ally.
And Bevin was a staunch Ham ally.
Unfortunately I can't find the study, but I saw one that suggested that as religion declined, those that were still religious became more extreme :(
PS They were referring to NUNs not NONES :)
6:36 - Or Jumbo Shrimp, but they exist.
Checkmate, atheists!
I would guess “16,000 hours in state schools” is the time per year kids are in school, assuming 40 hrs/week for ten months.
'Nothing in particular' and 'Agnostic' are code words for 'I am too coward to admit my atheism to myself and others'.
Not necessarily, it may be they do not realize that they qualify as athiest. Also agnosticism is not preventing a belief in god, I was once an agnostic theist. I am now an agnostic athiest nihilist. Life may be pointless, but I enjoy it to much to care.
Is it normal they speak so fast in that creationist program? Or did you speed it up a little to fit in your video?
Gee, I wonder why the comments are turned off on the AIG channel
I love that Answers "News" doesn't allow comments on their videos. Nothing shows how tenuous a position is when it cannot abide scrutiny.
true dat. plus many of us are banned from their live chat.
And plus I find it interesting kids don't go all year thinking about being good for Santa. It doesn't happen until Christmas is getting closer.
I'm a huge critic of Mark Meadows (being one of his constituents) and I would love to have the opportunity to drag him over the coals.
Just saying.
Please, please do.
Does anyone else constantly get ads for biblical studies whilst watching these types of vids?
"We won the trial but unfortunately our opponents got to teach in schools" and how was that a win?
6:21 to 6:26: Anyone know why Paul stopped talking midsentence, then picked up again a few seconds later in the middle of another sentence? O:-)
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I can guarantee you that if I had remained a believer I would be dead or in jail for life 25 years ago. Repenting is powerful for someone like me I was a psychopath as a believer but when I stopped believing I was downgraded to a sociopath. You see psychopaths have no care or empathy for others with the ability to repent I could do anything and know I would go to heaven. A sociopath has the capacity of very limited empathy which is what I have now but it wasn't just becoming an atheist that changed me. The empathy I have is a result of atheism and my late wife. She was my soulmate I think I loved her, I know I respected her. 4 years ago when I was 43 I woke up holding her corpse in my arms. When I discovered she was terminally ill for unknown reasons I felt something for the first time I mean I really felt something inexplicable. I later learned that was empathy and it really cemented itself after she died in her sleep in our bed. There is much emotion I don't understand like remorse and guilt among them.
I certainly don't know if I feel love no one can tell me what it should feel like.
When I was growing, going to school, I was a Hindu. It was the predominant re-legion, with some Muslims. No Christians, no churches around, only temples and one mosque. No re-legion was taught at school, our "spiritual and cultural needs" were met at home or in the community. when I heard this argument that, not just any re-legion, but Christianity in particular, must be taught in schools, I was shocked! God, and by extent, Re-legion, is personal, and therefore needs to be sought personally, that's why there are churches and other places, so people can seek that there. In the natural world, let natural things be learned.
These people at AIG don't give any answers, at! What they are providing are stumbling blocks for acquiring knowledge, and proud of it. It's disturbing.
At 10:25 I've never felt that way. Ive never thought, "oh, if I just didn't believe in God, I could......." And anyway, what does "do whatever you want" mean? Nah, I don't agree with Eric. Some of us are just not that way inclined. It's not a belief stopping me being nasty or something, no, it's just not something I want to be or do, and I keep it that way.
If religion is personal, does everyone have a different religion, and what is the point and purpose of religion?
@@autobotstarscream765 yes, that's why there are soo many re-legions!!!
exactly!!!!!
You have to love how they are unable to understand that what is being said, is their need for someone or something to be standing over them for them to act moral.
That stroke melted Dawkins’ brain. It’s a drag he used to be a really important scientist