Some are pointing out that the Bible gives humans permission to eat meat after the flood, but is unclear on when animals started being carnivorous. Answers in Genesis seems to hold a position that animals ate meat immediately after the fall, but does so tenuously. I believe I was mixing up Ken Ham and Kent Hovind, who holds to meat origins after the flood. I'll need to investigate further, but that these positions seem to be a toss-up tells us that any dogmatic Genesis interpretation may be a mistake.
Thanks for the clarification. I still don't recall hearing anyone claim it wasn't until after the flood, but it wouldn't even surprise me to be honest.
Sounds like a good topic for a video if you come across any contradictions from either of them, which, I'm only guessing now....probably isn't too hard to find ha
You're pissing him off enough to draw their direct attention. I believe the word is congratulations. May Ken ever be bothered by reasonable atheists like yourself.
Huh? Seriously that statement made no sense to me whatsoever. For one since when is oxygen quote "unaffected by gravity?" As to your video nah I'll pass.
+Paranormal Encyclopedia I wholeheartedly agree that this man deserves all the admiration every logical person have to offer :) Ken is so afraid that the truth will out in the end, he is not contempt to just skew some facts to serve his needs; he outright lies and misleads everyone who is not capable of critical thinking. (But it's not like he haven't done it before) Paul has chased the rat in the corner and it is struggling to find a way to escape.
Its only mission accomplished when Ken starts to actually take notice enough to stop blatantly lying every time he talks... or maybe when he just stops talking altogether.
+Timeshark :: _"take notice enough to stop blatantly lying every time he talks"_ I must respectfully disagree ... that would be 'Mission Impossible' LLLoL
I'd say "Mision accomplished" is when no one believes nonsensical BS anymore. But getting under their lying skin (i say lying, but it should be: either willfully ignorant or purposefully lying) is a good start.
I have a friend who is a teacher at San Diego Christian College. It is a local den of YEC fundamentalism. He says he “channels” me when introducing students to atheism. The interesting point is that he formerly would invite me out to lecture. After the last time, during the Q&A they could only fall back on faith as a final proof. I haven’t been invited back. I think he still channels me though! Lol!
I never expected this channel to get so far under Ken Ham's skin. Well done, Paul. Thanks for the crazy ride, man. I'm so looking forward to the future of you and AIG.
Paul your self restraint never ceases to amaze me. Watching the Aig schmucks make my head feel like it’s going to explode. I would pity them if it weren’t for the harm they cause to children. Keep up the good work.
Thank you for mentioning that there are people who wish to home-school whose reasons are other than religious. It sounds, unfortunately, like the association in Alberta has been taken over by creationists.
Haha I love it! He just can't help himself. "The thorn in Ken Hams side" God dammit that's a great moniker! Also, I love how his very first sentence is so distorted from reality, but hey, you can't expect much water from an empty bottle!
Certainly seems nobody wanted him here in Australia. I suspect he moved to the US because nobody would buy what he's selling. Good riddance. I suspect this country got a few milli-IQ-points smarter since he left.
Surely you aren't surprised by Lies for Jesus [a.k.a. bearing false witness against others] from people who are uninterested in truth! These frequent "Bearers of False Witness for Jesus" are great users of logical fallacies and projection. They must be exposed and their falsehoods cured by truth. Thank you for doing such a good job of it. Keep up the good work.
This was great Paulogia! It's so frustrating to know how many idiots, thankfully not as many as they lie and say, will be raising their innocent children on aig's lies. Poor kids, they will be suitable only for the lowest menial jobs. Love and Peace
Ah, the irony of a group that claims that people want to shut them up, when they're actually the group that's preventing other people from hearing what they're saying. They're crying persecution, when they're the only ones doing the persecuting.
This is my favorite TH-cam channel by far. The ONLY thing I would change about it is the amount of videos posted. I wish there was an infinite amount of them to watch. Of course I love watching Ken Ham's idiocy and dishonesty dissected, but it's the information that Paul offers which I find so intriguing. Learned a lot of cool stuff watching Paulogia. And after vetting many of his video's information, I'm confident enough to believe that this guy does his research and presents it honestly. Fucking love it. 🙂👍
I admit I did leave a couple of voicemail complaints with AHEA based on your vlog, so I suppose what you do do have a measurable impact on their work :)
It's a very uplifting jingle you've got there, Paul. It might have something to do with what usually follows of course, and I'm not ashamed to say that I love me some AiG-bashing in the evening:-) Thanks!
I know you JUST well enough to believe that, when we eventually hook-up and binge drink for a weekend, I STILL won't comprehend the patience you demonstrate in EVERY FUCKING ONE OF THESE!!!
Actually watching an Eric Hovind movie in its entirety for the sake of keeping an up-to-date TH-cam channel is so above and beyond the call of duty that the mind boggles...
And unlike The Blunder From Down Under, who I think is a True Believer (TM) desperately trying to get the rest of the world to stop criticising him so he can go back to his nice little bubble of specialness, I'm 99% certain Eric Hovind is a con-man out fleecing the gullible. I think the way to tell whether an apologist is a con-artist or a True Believer (TM) is to take note of whether they favour arguing facts or playing word games. If they go for the word games, they're a con-artist. Bonus con-artist points if they also have that slimy vibe to them. Eric Hovind loves word games and has the sliminess. He just latched onto Sye Ten Bruggencate's crap and hasn't let go since. Jailbird Hovind, on the other hand, continues to argue facts and just comes off as stupid or crazy, depending on what he's talking about at the time. So we have one con-man and one True Believer (TM) in the same family when it comes to the Hovinds.
I've had the same thought about Eric Hovind. But I think we may be underestimating the extent of the mental gymnastics someone will use to justify his beliefs. Hovind the junior doesn't strike me as having the brains to "know better" than to see through his own crap. I could be wrong, though. After all, hucksterism runs in his blood.
Actually,Paul,I follow Ken 'The Amish Wolverine' Ham as close as you do. And I'm from Calgary too. I follow him as part of my work assisting podcasters cover creationists for their shows. I'd love to hear you on a number of them,as you could give a great perspective on creationists in Canada.
He's from Queensland where they play Rugby League and call it "football". Of course those of us from Victoria, South Australia and Western Australia know better.
No, he really isn't. He started out in Australia, got into a power struggle with the leader of the creationist organization he joined, then apparently decided (not incorrectly) he'd make more money in the US and came over here. Then the original creationist group tried to sue him for stealing a bunch of their stuff, including their mailing list, and he created AiG. This was all roughly 20 years ago, but you can probably find some articles about it if your Google Fu is any good.
All I know is that someone who pretends to know sports and then makes such a horrible error is an inhuman monster and must be defeated. Paul is truly fighting the good fight.
12:19 Yes, it's an old and tired joke. Also the funniest joke they have ever popped! Unless you count all the young earth crap, but that is more worth a sad smile, and a bad feeling in the stomach because some people actually believe it.
IGER Television Ok, let's for the sake of discussion give you that NASA is lying. Look at this: th-cam.com/video/V86skL35TlM/w-d-xo.html The interesting part where the rocket continue about 1.000 feet after it "hit the dome". And move in about 1.100 feet?/second. And the extreme lack of excitement from the launchers, regardless if they are flat earthers or not, they should react... in some way.
And: th-cam.com/video/xR0CF9fOxkY/w-d-xo.html Looking a little further on the video from GoFast 2014. Here we find that the rocket slowly stop and start to fall towards the ground again. And the sideways camera have a fish eye lens, but each time the Earth is centered in the picture, the Earth is curved. Regardless of the angle the camera is filming. Not by much, but clearly noticable. So, both NASA and the Bible is a fraud. (And if you have a problem here, remember I use YOUR standard of evidence!) So I guess both the worldview of the Bible and the worldview of NASA is a fraud (again, YOUR standard of evidence). So what now? Investigate the Greek or Norse or Hindu worlview? Mayan? Australian aboriginals? Brain in a jar? The Matrix?
IGER Television Sorry I just skipped over the ozone bit, I don't know how to answer since I don't have a clue what you are talking about. Gravity doesn't have an on/off switch. It's working constantly. Probably doesn't answer your question, just adressing a misconception. Some thinking. Wise.
Well done, points made, and on the high ground. You do a great job of keeping your cool with Ham and Hamonites sir, I need to work on that, or not. There is a bit of funn in taking the Ricky approach.
I was also indoctrinated from a young age to despise evolution and the scientific consensus. I was raised up on the Abeka curriculum which was full of fallacies and pseudo science. Getting a real education and learning about how science, and the world, really work could've saved me so much heart ache. If I had known what I do know about reality, science, and my religion; I never would've been baptized. I would never have believed as much as I did. Child indoctrination is wrong. I don't give a damn what you think you're going to achieve by doing so. Let them think for themselves and learn how to think!
Great catch about the fish eating another fish. I've actually heard more often that carnivorous activity supposedly started right after Adam and Eve had to leave the paradise so I didn't even think about this specific problem with Ham's "teachings".
Paul, major potential correction from around the 17 minute mark: I don't think that Creationists claim all animals were vegetarians before the Flood, but rather that all animals were vegetarian before the Fall (and expulsion from the Garden of Eden). If the AiG crew have made separate claims about animals being vegetarian between the Fall and the Flood, I would be curious to see it and will retract my statement.
Paranormal - That's shocking to me... are they doing it to explain how everything on the Ark didn't eat everything else? From my Creationist upbringing (including lectures from Hovind's organization), the explanation I got was that carnivores didn't exist before The Fall and expulsion from the Garden, when death entered the world as a consequence of Adam's original sin. So that means the Ham and AiGs version conflicts with other Creation "scientists"... quelle surprise!
I know that before the *FLOOD*, dinosaurs and man lived in harmony, and the dinosaurs were all herbivores. I don't know for sure that he extrapolates that to all animals, but it seems like an odd distinction to make, if he doesn't. I think that his logic goes like this: 400,000 animals were on the boat, because math. There wasn't enough meat on the boat to feed the carniverous animals on the boat... therefore we can assume that they were fed rabbit food from the hydroponics bay. It's all very logical and stuff.
Nothing better than coming home.. rolling a joint.. opening youtube and seeing new Paulogia video uploaded! Paul, you're awesome.. greetings from Croatia!
I often wonder if these guys (and ones like them) actually still believe what they say, knowingly lie or are just too far gone from reality to turn back.
It's not an easy thing to answer. Humans are too good at compartmentalizing. Even if you really believe God can move mountains if you pray hard enough, you still get some heavy equipment to move that mountain--and then praise God for moving the mountain. In Ken's case, I am pretty sure he doesn't believe a word of it. He's in business. As the used car salesman puts on the happy face and acts like you are both wise and wily, so Ken puts on his Genesis face. Georgia is actually well educated. I don't know if she is Lying for Jesus out of a real commitment or simply knows that she'll make a hell of a lot more money doing what she does rather than what she trained for. I do know that those two numbskulls embarrass the hell out of her sometimes. It's fun to concentrate on her face when they are talking.
eyescovered take your point. It's like lying in general terms. One lie breads another to keep the fist lie from being exposed and so it goes on and on and on.... if you called time on one of his lies then you have to keep regressing back to source until the first lie that started it off is exposed. It would be like putting silk back into the spider after it made its web to see where it all started from. I guess by this time so many lies or un-thruths have been made that Ken now has an obligation to himself to keep the lies flowing thus stemming the flow of natural reason and curiousity to learn how the world realy is. That would take him to open his mind which is a terrible thing as mention, it would end up falling out :)
It's not really surprising, given that California is a favorite target of the religious right in America. They absolutely _despise_ what they see as some sort of godless leftist hellscape teetering on the brink of collapse.
Great show. It is so sick they time after time can sit there and talk about things that is very easy provable to be a big lie, it is so crazy, he with a straight face can say that you (Poul) want's to forbid him speaking in Canada. Is it possible to get that board of education fired or not reelected? That would be nice to get rid of them, i hope that democracy still is a thing in Canada? The cencorship they showed there should be punished. :-)
Ken and his team are full of it, and I hope one of them sees your video and reads these comments. These people all need to be exposed for who they really are. Also, noticed the comments are disabled on his video - not surprised by that at all.
The sickest part about Ken's videos is that the comments are always disabled meaning nobody can publicly refute their claims and they can lie all the want, the cowards.
That's it: AIG isn't merely mendacious and peddling a phenomenally deluded worldview. With their educational campaign, they have achieved an evil result. Congratulations? Excellent video, as usual.
Another great edition of H and A news Paul. Watching what the Aig team say about the conference brings to mind the words of Tennessee Williams in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof: there is an "odour of mendacity" in the room.
I remember a Star Trek episode where Kirk is fighting a bad guy and McCoy comments to Spock that bad usually triumphs unless good is very, very careful. No difference with your expose on Ken's world. Truth, while often messy and uncomfortable evidently needs careful support in this world as well.
Ideas should always be able to stand on their own if they're true ideas. If you're afraid your idea can't stand on its own, maybe you should be, and maybe you should examine the truth or lie of your idea.
@Paulogia the joke about being so open-minded that their brain is falling out might be old, but it's still fun, and the audience has so precious little to laugh at, so it should be perfectly understandable that it got the biggest laugh to date :)
My favorite exchange in Extreme Ghostbusters goes like this: Eduardo: "Hey, man, we're scientists, you have to keep an open mind, like I do." Kylie: "I know, I can feel the breeze."
The really funny thing is that while they accept the concept of Pangaea or the later forms of Laurasia / Gondwanaland they don't accept the earlier proposed supercontinents that existed. Those plates have been moving for a long time and there have been supercontinents for an equal amount of time.
Oh man, thanks for pulling in the Chesterton quote. He's the best. I do remember it a little differently, and I refuse to look it up, as I like my recalled version better. Who knows, he may have actually said it both ways. "Merely having an open mind is nothing. The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid." Christian or no, that guy had a brain that didn't leak out.
Saw ricky gervais’s “humanity!” Was hilarious! I love it that ken had to go on the defensive! Hope he challenges you again! Would love to hear how he would misrepresent your facts/arguments! I feel embarrassed for him and his cronies all the time! Good job Paul!👏👍
The best thing about science, is that often times evidence in one type of science will completely be independently verified by a separate branches of science. For example Geology and Biology oftentimes showing links in the fossil records such as the TK boundary and the impact event in the Yucatan Peninsula can both be easily independently verified in the geological record as well as the fossilized biological record. We see this all the time in all the branches of sciences. Not so much in contemporary religion.
Some are pointing out that the Bible gives humans permission to eat meat after the flood, but is unclear on when animals started being carnivorous. Answers in Genesis seems to hold a position that animals ate meat immediately after the fall, but does so tenuously. I believe I was mixing up Ken Ham and Kent Hovind, who holds to meat origins after the flood. I'll need to investigate further, but that these positions seem to be a toss-up tells us that any dogmatic Genesis interpretation may be a mistake.
C'mon Paul. How could anyone get these guys mixed up? It's sooooo obvious.
Kent Ham is the hammy one and Ken Hovind is the other one.
Thanks for the clarification. I still don't recall hearing anyone claim it wasn't until after the flood, but it wouldn't even surprise me to be honest.
Paulogia
Love your video Paul. TEAR that Ham to shreds like it's a baby Burger 😆
No biggie. Good job admitting a mistake right away
Sounds like a good topic for a video if you come across any contradictions from either of them, which, I'm only guessing now....probably isn't too hard to find ha
You're pissing him off enough to draw their direct attention. I believe the word is congratulations. May Ken ever be bothered by reasonable atheists like yourself.
Paranormal Encyclopedia seconded!
Now is the time to strike! He is weakened, and flailing about... Go for the jugular!
Huh? Seriously that statement made no sense to me whatsoever. For one since when is oxygen quote "unaffected by gravity?" As to your video nah I'll pass.
+Paranormal Encyclopedia I wholeheartedly agree that this man deserves all the admiration every logical person have to offer :) Ken is so afraid that the truth will out in the end, he is not contempt to just skew some facts to serve his needs; he outright lies and misleads everyone who is not capable of critical thinking. (But it's not like he haven't done it before) Paul has chased the rat in the corner and it is struggling to find a way to escape.
Paul, your integrity and honesty speaks for itself. Thanks for the work you do exposing these slimy lies.
Hey Paulogia, you are on Ham's radar and notorious in his eyes. Mission accomplished!
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Its only mission accomplished when Ken starts to actually take notice enough to stop blatantly lying every time he talks... or maybe when he just stops talking altogether.
+Timeshark :: _"take notice enough to stop blatantly lying every time he talks"_
I must respectfully disagree ... that would be 'Mission Impossible'
LLLoL
Hey, I can dream can't I.
I'd say "Mision accomplished" is when no one believes nonsensical BS anymore. But getting under their lying skin (i say lying, but it should be: either willfully ignorant or purposefully lying) is a good start.
I wish I had a creationist mad enough at me to spend so much time talking about me.
TTOR doesn't count.
+VR :: keep working on it, you'll get there :-)
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you're way more annoying than me. it'll happen.
be careful what you wish for. When Ken takes over congress, he'll make it legal to burn you for heresy...
I have a friend who is a teacher at San Diego Christian College. It is a local den of YEC fundamentalism. He says he “channels” me when introducing students to atheism. The interesting point is that he formerly would invite me out to lecture. After the last time, during the Q&A they could only fall back on faith as a final proof. I haven’t been invited back.
I think he still channels me though! Lol!
Keep up your good work and it will pay off in the end for you Viced Rhino
I never expected this channel to get so far under Ken Ham's skin. Well done, Paul. Thanks for the crazy ride, man. I'm so looking forward to the future of you and AIG.
Evangelical, creationist mother: Time to get ready to go to church.
Me: but I need my Ham and eggs first. 😁
Just tell her you're watching videos about creationism. It's technically correct, and that's the best kind of correct.
Avicaris True, very true.
You make my sceptical, Albertan heart swell with pride💙
Paul your self restraint never ceases to amaze me. Watching the Aig schmucks make my head feel like it’s going to explode. I would pity them if it weren’t for the harm they cause to children. Keep up the good work.
“Paul, I am your *disgruntled* father!” -Ken
Thank you for mentioning that there are people who wish to home-school whose reasons are other than religious. It sounds, unfortunately, like the association in Alberta has been taken over by creationists.
Ouch🤮
Haha I love it! He just can't help himself.
"The thorn in Ken Hams side" God dammit that's a great moniker!
Also, I love how his very first sentence is so distorted from reality, but hey, you can't expect much water from an empty bottle!
That moment when you have watched every single one of a creators videos
Phanno sometimes more than once cos chances are you missed something good the first time round!
1:46 Crying with laughter,
'Was upset that I was coming to Canada'
'More disappointed that anyone would want him here'!!!
Certainly seems nobody wanted him here in Australia. I suspect he moved to the US because nobody would buy what he's selling. Good riddance. I suspect this country got a few milli-IQ-points smarter since he left.
I love the Ham and AiGs intro theme!
I was about to go to bed, now I'm definitely going to have nightmares.
Thanks Paul.
Surely you aren't surprised by Lies for Jesus [a.k.a. bearing false witness against others] from people who are uninterested in truth! These frequent "Bearers of False Witness for Jesus" are great users of logical fallacies and projection. They must be exposed and their falsehoods cured by truth. Thank you for doing such a good job of it. Keep up the good work.
Looks like Ken follows the secret 11th commandment, “thou shalt ignore all other commandments which are inconvenient for thee.”
“Totally unbiased, conservative news”
This was great Paulogia! It's so frustrating to know how many idiots, thankfully not as many as they lie and say, will be raising their innocent children on aig's lies. Poor kids, they will be suitable only for the lowest menial jobs. Love and Peace
Or they study law and enter politics distrusting science.
Marquis de Moo yes! Like pence! Love and Peace
Ah, the irony of a group that claims that people want to shut them up, when they're actually the group that's preventing other people from hearing what they're saying. They're crying persecution, when they're the only ones doing the persecuting.
Another gem, well done Paulogia
This is my favorite TH-cam channel by far.
The ONLY thing I would change about it is the amount of videos posted. I wish there was an infinite amount of them to watch.
Of course I love watching Ken Ham's idiocy and dishonesty dissected, but it's the information that Paul offers which I find so intriguing.
Learned a lot of cool stuff watching Paulogia. And after vetting many of his video's information, I'm confident enough to believe that this guy does his research and presents it honestly.
Fucking love it. 🙂👍
Well done Paul..you are really start to get under his skin...keep up the good work bud...
I admit I did leave a couple of voicemail complaints with AHEA based on your vlog, so I suppose what you do do have a measurable impact on their work :)
Had an open mind, but it fell on the floor, it rolled all around, then rolled out the door.
... then the dog ,,,,,,,,
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Haha 😆 lmao 👌
Today on, "The presidents brain is missing!"
As always - fantastic
It's a very uplifting jingle you've got there, Paul.
It might have something to do with what usually follows of course, and I'm not ashamed to say that I love me some AiG-bashing in the evening:-)
Thanks!
Ken makes you look so good.
Ken Ham violating the commandment against bearing false witness? What a shock! Mind you, that's in Exodus 20:15, so the answer isn't in Genesis.
Awesome! Another Calgarian on here and having such lovely fun at the Ham.
I know you JUST well enough to believe that, when we eventually hook-up and binge drink for a weekend, I STILL won't comprehend the patience you demonstrate in EVERY FUCKING ONE OF THESE!!!
Great job exposing their lies. They are afraid...and they should be; their ideas are losing.
Go Paul! Next step Prime minister of Canada!
Actually watching an Eric Hovind movie in its entirety for the sake of keeping an up-to-date TH-cam channel is so above and beyond the call of duty that the mind boggles...
And unlike The Blunder From Down Under, who I think is a True Believer (TM) desperately trying to get the rest of the world to stop criticising him so he can go back to his nice little bubble of specialness, I'm 99% certain Eric Hovind is a con-man out fleecing the gullible.
I think the way to tell whether an apologist is a con-artist or a True Believer (TM) is to take note of whether they favour arguing facts or playing word games. If they go for the word games, they're a con-artist. Bonus con-artist points if they also have that slimy vibe to them.
Eric Hovind loves word games and has the sliminess. He just latched onto Sye Ten Bruggencate's crap and hasn't let go since. Jailbird Hovind, on the other hand, continues to argue facts and just comes off as stupid or crazy, depending on what he's talking about at the time. So we have one con-man and one True Believer (TM) in the same family when it comes to the Hovinds.
I've had the same thought about Eric Hovind. But I think we may be underestimating the extent of the mental gymnastics someone will use to justify his beliefs. Hovind the junior doesn't strike me as having the brains to "know better" than to see through his own crap. I could be wrong, though. After all, hucksterism runs in his blood.
Actually,Paul,I follow Ken 'The Amish Wolverine' Ham as close as you do. And I'm from Calgary too. I follow him as part of my work assisting podcasters cover creationists for their shows. I'd love to hear you on a number of them,as you could give a great perspective on creationists in Canada.
Whatever you do, don't make a drinking game out of Ken Ham lying... Your liver would go on strike!
Ken just equated rugby to Australian football. He needs to stop pretending to be an Australian and come clean.
He's from Queensland where they play Rugby League and call it "football". Of course those of us from Victoria, South Australia and Western Australia know better.
Even worse, he keeps denying evolution when one look at him confirms that he is the missing link to Neanderthals.
But he agreed it was Australian football. No rugby person would say that. He’s American putting on a funny accent
No, he really isn't. He started out in Australia, got into a power struggle with the leader of the creationist organization he joined, then apparently decided (not incorrectly) he'd make more money in the US and came over here. Then the original creationist group tried to sue him for stealing a bunch of their stuff, including their mailing list, and he created AiG. This was all roughly 20 years ago, but you can probably find some articles about it if your Google Fu is any good.
All I know is that someone who pretends to know sports and then makes such a horrible error is an inhuman monster and must be defeated. Paul is truly fighting the good fight.
12:19 Yes, it's an old and tired joke. Also the funniest joke they have ever popped!
Unless you count all the young earth crap, but that is more worth a sad smile, and a bad feeling in the stomach because some people actually believe it.
IGER Television Ok, let's for the sake of discussion give you that NASA is lying.
Look at this:
th-cam.com/video/V86skL35TlM/w-d-xo.html
The interesting part where the rocket continue about 1.000 feet after it "hit the dome".
And move in about 1.100 feet?/second.
And the extreme lack of excitement from the launchers, regardless if they are flat earthers or not, they should react... in some way.
And:
th-cam.com/video/xR0CF9fOxkY/w-d-xo.html
Looking a little further on the video from GoFast 2014.
Here we find that the rocket slowly stop and start to fall towards the ground again.
And the sideways camera have a fish eye lens, but each time the Earth is centered in the picture, the Earth is curved. Regardless of the angle the camera is filming.
Not by much, but clearly noticable.
So, both NASA and the Bible is a fraud. (And if you have a problem here, remember I use YOUR standard of evidence!)
So I guess both the worldview of the Bible and the worldview of NASA is a fraud (again, YOUR standard of evidence).
So what now?
Investigate the Greek or Norse or Hindu worlview?
Mayan? Australian aboriginals?
Brain in a jar? The Matrix?
IGER Television Sorry I just skipped over the ozone bit, I don't know how to answer since I don't have a clue what you are talking about.
Gravity doesn't have an on/off switch. It's working constantly.
Probably doesn't answer your question, just adressing a misconception.
Some thinking. Wise.
Well done, points made, and on the high ground. You do a great job of keeping your cool with Ham and Hamonites sir, I need to work on that, or not. There is a bit of funn in taking the Ricky approach.
Well done Paul ! There's nothing like a stone in your shoe that you just can't get rid of - it slows you down if nothing else.
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Thanks for bringing this out into the open, Paul! These people are dangerous.
thanks i always enjoy your videos.
I was also indoctrinated from a young age to despise evolution and the scientific consensus. I was raised up on the Abeka curriculum which was full of fallacies and pseudo science. Getting a real education and learning about how science, and the world, really work could've saved me so much heart ache. If I had known what I do know about reality, science, and my religion; I never would've been baptized. I would never have believed as much as I did. Child indoctrination is wrong. I don't give a damn what you think you're going to achieve by doing so. Let them think for themselves and learn how to think!
+Caleb Tynes So sorry to hear that but I suppose it is quite common in some places. Glad that you came out Ok anyway.
Great catch about the fish eating another fish. I've actually heard more often that carnivorous activity supposedly started right after Adam and Eve had to leave the paradise so I didn't even think about this specific problem with Ham's "teachings".
FLIP'EM FLOP EM' FLIP EM' FLOP EM'
Akios Eres HAM AND AIGS!
Are those the words? All this time I thought they were singing "flip 'em fuck 'em"
+bg6b7bft lol xD
Paul, major potential correction from around the 17 minute mark:
I don't think that Creationists claim all animals were vegetarians before the Flood, but rather that all animals were vegetarian before the Fall (and expulsion from the Garden of Eden). If the AiG crew have made separate claims about animals being vegetarian between the Fall and the Flood, I would be curious to see it and will retract my statement.
That may depend on the creationist in question but Ken Ham and AiG quite explicitly do.
That's right
Paranormal - That's shocking to me... are they doing it to explain how everything on the Ark didn't eat everything else? From my Creationist upbringing (including lectures from Hovind's organization), the explanation I got was that carnivores didn't exist before The Fall and expulsion from the Garden, when death entered the world as a consequence of Adam's original sin.
So that means the Ham and AiGs version conflicts with other Creation "scientists"... quelle surprise!
Literal interpritation of scripture that God gave permission to eat flesh after the flood. Yeah I know it doesn't make sense but thats Ham for you.
I know that before the *FLOOD*, dinosaurs and man lived in harmony, and the dinosaurs were all herbivores. I don't know for sure that he extrapolates that to all animals, but it seems like an odd distinction to make, if he doesn't.
I think that his logic goes like this: 400,000 animals were on the boat, because math. There wasn't enough meat on the boat to feed the carniverous animals on the boat... therefore we can assume that they were fed rabbit food from the hydroponics bay. It's all very logical and stuff.
Nothing better than coming home.. rolling a joint.. opening youtube and seeing new Paulogia video uploaded!
Paul, you're awesome.. greetings from Croatia!
thanks, Josip!
As ever Paul, you are clearly doing something right. Answers In Genius strikes again! P.S Humanity is fantastic! Stay safe all 👍
I often wonder if these guys (and ones like them) actually still believe what they say, knowingly lie or are just too far gone from reality to turn back.
It's not an easy thing to answer. Humans are too good at compartmentalizing. Even if you really believe God can move mountains if you pray hard enough, you still get some heavy equipment to move that mountain--and then praise God for moving the mountain.
In Ken's case, I am pretty sure he doesn't believe a word of it. He's in business. As the used car salesman puts on the happy face and acts like you are both wise and wily, so Ken puts on his Genesis face.
Georgia is actually well educated. I don't know if she is Lying for Jesus out of a real commitment or simply knows that she'll make a hell of a lot more money doing what she does rather than what she trained for. I do know that those two numbskulls embarrass the hell out of her sometimes. It's fun to concentrate on her face when they are talking.
otrame1 well said!
eyescovered these mofos aren't Christians
I agree with AronRa, it's a deliberately constructed fraud.
eyescovered take your point. It's like lying in general terms. One lie breads another to keep the fist lie from being exposed and so it goes on and on and on.... if you called time on one of his lies then you have to keep regressing back to source until the first lie that started it off is exposed. It would be like putting silk back into the spider after it made its web to see where it all started from. I guess by this time so many lies or un-thruths have been made that Ken now has an obligation to himself to keep the lies flowing thus stemming the flow of natural reason and curiousity to learn how the world realy is. That would take him to open his mind which is a terrible thing as mention, it would end up falling out :)
Great to see Bodie the clown cracking jokes like a professional.
Oh, how we laughed.
"The thorn in Ken Ham's side" lol. Nice job, Paul
13:41 As a Californian, I’m simultaneously amused and disturbed by this
It's not really surprising, given that California is a favorite target of the religious right in America. They absolutely _despise_ what they see as some sort of godless leftist hellscape teetering on the brink of collapse.
I do love your work. Keep on keeping on!
Thank you, again, Paulogia, for another great "Ken-slap"! (Not that Ken needs much help making a fool of himself.)
Hey Paul, that's a pretty good photo in the Red Deer Advocate!
However, the name of that paper sounds like a lawyer for Family _Cervidae._
Great show. It is so sick they time after time can sit there and talk about things that is very easy provable to be a big lie, it is so crazy, he with a straight face can say that you (Poul) want's to forbid him speaking in Canada. Is it possible to get that board of education fired or not reelected? That would be nice to get rid of them, i hope that democracy still is a thing in Canada? The cencorship they showed there should be punished. :-)
Ken and his team are full of it, and I hope one of them sees your video and reads these comments. These people all need to be exposed for who they really are. Also, noticed the comments are disabled on his video - not surprised by that at all.
Loving the channel and this series. Keep up the good work Paul!
What??? Ken ham lied. Shocker.
But... how can he?? Isn't lying something baaad??
I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell ya.
It's OK to lie for Jesus.
Ken, a catastrophic occurrence isn't common. It's a sudden, surprising event. it's not supposed to be normal.
The sickest part about Ken's videos is that the comments are always disabled meaning nobody can publicly refute their claims and they can lie all the want, the cowards.
New subscriber here. Good work!
Ham
" non belief is a belief"
Why do creationists or believers in general not understand how silly they sound?
Welcome, Rory!
ajs1031. Lol.
That's it: AIG isn't merely mendacious and peddling a phenomenally deluded worldview. With their educational campaign, they have achieved an evil result. Congratulations? Excellent video, as usual.
Another great edition of H and A news Paul. Watching what the Aig team say about the conference brings to mind the words of Tennessee Williams in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof: there is an "odour of mendacity" in the room.
That intro's still legendary...
I remember a Star Trek episode where Kirk is fighting a bad guy and McCoy comments to Spock that bad usually triumphs unless good is very, very careful. No difference with your expose on Ken's world. Truth, while often messy and uncomfortable evidently needs careful support in this world as well.
Next time I’ll by a ticket and go. I’m a nobody and not on anyone’s radar. Secularism isn’t a religion Ken Sham. With fundies, criticism = oppression.
Might want to get a group to help you out and spread them thre out the crowd. It's a good way to get the audience to wake up.
Saru*shi of the Blue Rogues a group would be better.
"So open-minded that your brains fall out". Dan Millman says , "Lose your mind and come to your senses".
Well Done Paul !
Huh, their confusion of gradualism etc reminds me of punctuated equilibrium quote mines
It’s refreshing that this guy can make money debating inconsistencies in story telling
Does Ken Ham even realize loosing Paul as a "supporter" means he has lost his only true support ?
Darth Killer great question.
Darth Killer 😖 ‘loosing’ ❎ ‘losing’ ✅ 10 demerits!
Sir Meow The Library Cat : thanks about that. ;-)
great vid!!
Congratulations, you must be very proud!
Lololol, "a thorn in Ken Hamm's side".
I wonder if Hamm realizes what a compliment that is?
If Sham is the emperor, who is Darth Vadar? Are you surprised Sham played the martyr card by lying?
I'd say Kent Hovind is the Emperor and Ken is Vader... Eric is of course Jar Jar.
Hmmm you may have a point there... so maybe Kent's Plagieus.
Nicht von dieser Welt ha!
ajs1031 o would buy that.
Oh, crap! I just discovered this channel while running out of beer. Worst time to start binge watching Ham and Aigs.
ha. sorry.
Keep up the good work Paulogia!
Funny how the advert before this was for the bible on line app
jenny luvaglia I assume you watch several videos with religion in the tag..
The Suck Dickster 133 i do watch many aithiest video's so im guessing thats why i got the bible study advert
jenny luvaglia, it's realy not that funny, maybe advertisers are aware that atheists read the bible too; oftentimes more than believers.
Richard Cramer your so right i read my bibles far more now than when i was a Christian so that advert was well placed
Ideas should always be able to stand on their own if they're true ideas. If you're afraid your idea can't stand on its own, maybe you should be, and maybe you should examine the truth or lie of your idea.
@Paulogia the joke about being so open-minded that their brain is falling out might be old, but it's still fun, and the audience has so precious little to laugh at, so it should be perfectly understandable that it got the biggest laugh to date :)
Yes, Ken, people who profit off of lying should rightly be labeled as controversial.
There seems to have been a very small upload/render blip at the end you cut out right before you finish the end pitch.
Lol Ken doesn’t even know Australian Football (Aussie Rules) is a different sport to Rugby Union
Matt Tarrant proof he is just wearing a human suit
This made my day ❤
I always hear "OH NO IT'S KEN HAAAAM!" at the theme song.
Love the show. Keep fighting the good fight until this garbage is obsolete.
My favorite exchange in Extreme Ghostbusters goes like this:
Eduardo: "Hey, man, we're scientists, you have to keep an open mind, like I do."
Kylie: "I know, I can feel the breeze."
I had a dream last night that I met Aron. It was cool to meet the legend himself
The really funny thing is that while they accept the concept of Pangaea or the later forms of Laurasia / Gondwanaland they don't accept the earlier proposed supercontinents that existed. Those plates have been moving for a long time and there have been supercontinents for an equal amount of time.
Awwwww Ken Hamm is sooooooooooooo persecuted. Pooooooor little fella.
I would crowdfund a study of their education stuff
Oh man, thanks for pulling in the Chesterton quote. He's the best. I do remember it a little differently, and I refuse to look it up, as I like my recalled version better. Who knows, he may have actually said it both ways. "Merely having an open mind is nothing. The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid."
Christian or no, that guy had a brain that didn't leak out.
Saw ricky gervais’s “humanity!” Was hilarious! I love it that ken had to go on the defensive! Hope he challenges you again! Would love to hear how he would misrepresent your facts/arguments! I feel embarrassed for him and his cronies all the time! Good job Paul!👏👍
We can’t get enough of your videos! How is it in Canada 🇨🇦? Thinking of relocating
they should start doing slapstick.
i'd love to see ken catch a pie in the face after one of his wise cracks.
17:25 That vegetarian fish isn't eating the other one, he's trying to revive him after he drowned in the flood. Because fish... drown... you know?
I really liked Ricky Gervais and when I found out he is so vocal about his non belief, it was like cherry on top of cake.
The best thing about science, is that often times evidence in one type of science will completely be independently verified by a separate branches of science.
For example Geology and Biology oftentimes showing links in the fossil records such as the TK boundary and the impact event in the Yucatan Peninsula can both be easily independently verified in the geological record as well as the fossilized biological record.
We see this all the time in all the branches of sciences. Not so much in contemporary religion.
The more you rely on silencing your opponents, Ken, the more listeners will turn from you in disgust.