Kitbashing and Converting - STOP DOING THIS :Þ
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ก.พ. 2022
- In this 3 minute tuesday video we dive into tools and materials I use when kitbashing and converting warhammer minis with epoxy clay like milliput. We're covering all the essentials - let me know if you are interested in deeper dives on the topic and more conversion and kitbashing content in general!
The color shaper I use: Royal Sovereign Ltd. UK: size 0, extra firm, angle chisel: tinyurl.com/yzaefrb5
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I have always been hesitant to upload Kitbashes and Conversions to the channel - Are you interested in seeing more content that deals with these topics? Or are we a painting only channel?
Personally would love to see more kitbashing, great to see this video
I would love to see more kitbashing and converting I also prefer milliput over greenstuff,so much more versatile. Also what I make the handles for my sculpting tools out of lol
Advanced kitbashing doesn't get nearly enough content anywhere; I'd love to see it!
Yes please. Kitbashing and conversions are the best part of the hobby.
I feel like general advice on kitbashing, conversion and sculpting is an underserved market on hobby youtube, especially with good production quality and good explanations.
What I eould personally love is a structured, systematic series on sculpting different textures/items and how to fit those on a mini.
While you are a great teacher and painter (obviously), that space feels a bit overcrowded atm, there are a lot of at least decent painters out there.
Looking at your Sylvanas sculpt though makes it obvious that you have skills to show that most if not all channels similar to yours cannot offer.
Yes, I do want to see more conversions. You are a fantastic sculptor and achieve enviably smooth details that don't look out of place at all! Concerning the materials you use, have you tried mixing Green Stuff with milliput? I found it combines the good features of both materials, i.e. blends well, doesn't tear when stretched, can hold sharp edges and can be sanded when I invariably make mistake ;)
I mean...it'S definitely better than using pure GS ;)
Also thanks a lot for your kind words!
@@trovarion My sarcasm detector bleeped and broke :D
I need to try some more pure milliput as well. On the other hand, I finally managed to make fairly seamless pure gs transitions as well. I need to just sculpt more and see more good techniques for it, preferably by you. So keep the conversion content coming! It is the best part about hobbying.
Oh and you are great at conveying a lot of detail on this three minutes format. Loved these videos so far! And I'm aware that this one was more of a two for one package, but the intro about all the wrong tools was quite fitting ;)
I occasionally use epoxy clay / green stuff mixes, it depends very much on how flexable, rigid or workable (drill, sand) the finish needs to be. Haven't used pure GS in about a decade.
I feel like this is your distinguishing point Chris, lots of other channels cover painting but your conversions and sculpting are next level. I would love to see more videos like this on the channel.
Sculpting is a big part of the hobby for me. Both for conversions and original sculpt. So please make more videos about it!
Yes please, more sculpting and conversion stuff. I feel like people who want to paint to a high standard also want more personalized, individualized sculpts to tell whatever story they are portraying.
60/40 Milliput/Greenstuff is by far my fav.
Milliput alone still has some nasty weakness which gets nullified by Greenstuff.
Absolutely true. You can make do with one putty for sure, but blending and mixing different properties is very useful to learn too. Another point for sculpting using oven-bake polymer clay as the basis, and slapping epoxy putties on top of that.
what weakness for exemple?
Milliput is absolute trash for anything like clean small detail work, where you need to be super careful it's so messy, tears too easy and has a limited window where it's user friendly but it is great at filling gaps and covering any larger smooth flat/curved areas.
Green stuff is just easier to work with IMO, way more forgiving.
Have been using milliput for all sorts of jobs since the late 70s for both modelling and real world things, I still think it's the best all round putty.
BTW in case you don't know Milliput dissolves in alcohol, so you can use it to make a nice paste (or even a slurry) should you wish to ever wish paint it onto a surface say a letter material that has been cut and looks awful
It's also useful as a slurry to get it into a really awkward place (say to hold weights into the nose of an aircraft/spaceship)
If turned into a paste/slurry, how long drying time, compared to normal milliput, would one look at?
Sure it depends on thickness, but just a ballpark :)
@@Himle_ I've used the technique of mixing Milliput with Tamiya's thin plastic cement to "paint" on texture, making something look like cast iron. The cement/alcohol evaporates at its usual time and so you just leave the Milliput for 12 hours to cure (24 to 48 if you want to be absolutely sure it's hardened).
@@nekrataali Hmm, interesting idea! I have to try that too. Just need to finish of my current paint batch. (-:
I thought that alcohol would evaporate, but never tried it, so thought i'd ask.
@@Himle_ indeed the alcohol evaporates off pretty quick then you have the usual milliput setting time
I’m a blacksmith, and when I need a new tool, I make it. I’ve adapted the philosophy with sculpting. Your video was very useful. Thank you 🙏
I love the home-made tools. I have a bunch of old sprue bits and toothpicks that I've filed to shape, some of which have served me well for over a decade.
Yes to more conversion content, please. Tools used for sculpting is always a hard subject that you simplified fantastically many sculptors use tools that they feel comfortable with and often over time fashion most of the tools they use themselves or modify bought tools, shapers though I have to say are a must-have and can be found pretty cheaply.
Found this video by chance and I'm so glad I did. Very informative and covers things I'd never even considered i.e. grain size. Thank you.
I totally agree with you on this. I'm a sculptor myself and when it comes to sculpting tools. most of the time homemade tools work better. Although I also have standard sculpting tools, I only use them for rough sculpting like adding or removing volumes of sculpey ,apoxie clay etc. And for detail works, I still revert back to homemade tools to kick those details in. And most of them are made from metal stirring sticks like Tamiya for example.
Yes!!! More sculpting and conversions please!! I'd love to see start to finish conversions, including painting.
Conversions and kitbashes are two of my favorite aspects of this hobby! I'm so happy that you recorded this video, and I'm looking forward to the next one. By the way, your editing quality is definitely improving!
Yes, absolutely would I like to see more conversions on this channel! always enjoy your work and as always, I appreciate your time bro!
Best video about sculpting in small scales that I‘ve seen. I had almost given up learning this, but I‘m definitely going to start again now. Thanks a lot!
Colour shapers were a revelation for gap filling, this has inspired me to try sculpting with them too.
Could you please do a video on that beautiful fur sculpt? (If you haven’t already that is)
Excellent advice, and great video! One thing I found useful in some cases is adding a little play doh to the milliput - it makes it softer, sculpts beautifully, and after a few hours it's as solid as normal milliput.
I tend to mix my green stuff with Milliput for a good texture blend and easy sculpting.
OK that fur is amazing .. you need to do a video on how to sculpt fur like that !!
I picked up a firm colorshaper a few months ago. It’s amazing for shaping green stuff for gap filling. Not brave enough to try more legitimate sculpting, but this video certainly is making the case that I should try.
Yes, more conversions please! My only problem with Milliput is, that it wont really stick to other materials...
Definitely want more conversions and sculpting work.
Trov, if people dont want to make their own needle tool, another cheap way to get one is a wristwatch spring bar/end link tool. Will have a pointed fork side and a needle side. Worth checking out usually only a few bucks.
Those silicon shapers made model preperation so much nicer. Got them after your gap filling video and now they are a primary part of my building tool box.
Definitely want to see more sculpting and conversions. You gloss over it but your sculpting is top notch mate
Yes more conversions and sculpting!!
I rarely use GS on it's own any more, I mix it with Sylmasta's Magic Sculp (no T), which I also prefer over Milliput
As always, great video!
Love your sword brother conversion, I'll have to try something like that too since the standard sword brother has a very rigid and recognizable stance.
Overall, your sculpting seems to be just out of this word, it's frankly amazing.
Great video! One my fave tools is my lily pad tool, sharpened brass tube used as a punch!
Would love to see more conversations. Really enjoy your channel, thanks for all the tips and inspiration.
Indeed. More conversions please! Great video😎
Definitely want to see more conversions and kitbashes from you. Also as an idea for a video: how about some artistic tips for bases, when to go humble and minimal and when to go for story with your base.
Definitely more conversions. There are so many different sides to this hobby, but out of all of them, making models uniquely my own, gives me the most joy.
It's great to see how others approach conversions, and since there are so many techniques and tools, you can always learn something new. : )
great vid trov! I think this 3 minute format really suites your talents
Thanks a ton!
Definitely would love to see more sculpting and conversion tutorials 👍
Great vid! Would love to see more conversion videos, maybe even a small series of tutorials about making different bits like doing custom helmets, trim, pouches, fur, etc...
Nice video mate! An alternative is to mix milliput and greenstuff so you get a material you can sand and still is not that fragile as milliput by it's own but you pointed good advices 😉
Excellent timing, I started sculpting with milliput like a week ago. Great video!
That's awesome!
Making videos about conversions/sculpting seems like a unique selling point and thus a great way of distinguishing yourself from other content creators.
Great video. And very timely for me as I'm about to do some conversions and was thinking about getting Green Stuff and some tools. I feel I'll be shopping a little smarter, now. Yes, would like to see conversions, but don't go overboard.
Yes, more conversions! Great video and great advice 👍
I have been using more or less the same tools for most of my putty work. I do use a metal tool with a spoon and a spear tips and sometimes one with a flat face (mostly for milliput structures/90 degree angles, etc), a pointed and square shaper and finally I use a tiny crochet hook.
This was really helpful! I knew only some parts prior to your vid but you gave me those critical tips that I was missing out on
Yes, more conversion.
Great video - only thing I would point out is that for all it's benefits, Miliput has one fatal flaw - It's rock solid when dry. For most applications this is fine, but it means you have to sculpt things exactly the way you need them when finished.
By comparison, green stuff is fairly flexible when dry, so for things like tentacles and cables and such, that you might find hard to sculpt in-place or you just don't know what shape they need to be yet, you can sculpt separately and then conform the greenstuff to whatever shape you need later. Often this is achieved by using a thin flexible wire as a core for the greenstuff.
another great video, packed full of digestible information! il be sure to try some of these sculpting tips! thanks again
More conversions!!! please - always interesting - entertaining and encouraging and educational....... out of big 'e' words - thank you muchly!!
cool video, would love to see more conversion and sculpting videos!
More conversions pls!!! Your sculpting is boss tier.
i am in love with that custom belt!
I would love to see more sculpting/conversion videos!
Yes I'd love to see more conversions on this channel! The clip of the skull helmet was awesome!
it's going to make a full comeback in the next video!
Yes please, more conversions would be great! And I do prefer Milliput over Greenstuff as well. :)
Perfect! Thank you so much for explaining, now I know I need to buy milliput instead of green stuff.
I 've carved tools from wooden toothpicks and coffee stirrers to suit a specific sculpting task; I found the wood draws up water and can help with creating blends and other smoother finishes in epoxy clay or clay/green stuff mixes.
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Hi Trovarion. Thanks for the video. I wouldn't mind seeing a video on exactly how you sculpted that fur. Thanks again!
Yes more conversions Please!! %100
That Space Wolf belt is amazing!!! More conversions!
Definitely want to see more conversions!
Awesome video. Great points and thank you for sharing.
I have to say you really gave me a whole new perspective on sculpting in this relatively short Video. Thank you very much :) I'm converting almost every single one of my miniatures with greenstuff and I am always struggling with blending. Would you also use Milliput for free floating cloths like hanging leatherstraps, banners, etc. which only have small contact points with e.g. armor?
I would love to see more conversions and sculpting. I’ve seen a lot of tutorials on TH-cam of creating black Templar/dark Angel style tabards but they always look a bit off. Would be great to see your way of making them
The good news if that, if you play the video at double the speed, is still longer than 3 minutes XD
Great video, as usual!
damn!
I'd love to see how you sculpted the trim on your Nightlord because I've never been able to find a tutorial for it, that conversion also has the cleanest press moulding I've ever seen.
next video :)
There are a million painting channels, and a couple of sculpting channels. Very rare do you find the two in the same place. I'd absolutely hope to see more sculpting content from yourself.
Yes, we want to see more conversions, Mate!
Congrats on 100k Subs!! Well deserved! 🥳 🎉
I have my own trick.
I got some uv resin and a uv penlight.
I apply the resin to the joint using a small detail brush, use the uv penlight to immediately cure it.
Little or no sanding has to be used.
It’s better to under-fill and go back a second time to build it out more.
Results are smooth.
I have been doing the same, the stuff is brilliant and has so many uses, it's great for doing instant casting/copies as well.
Yes please, definitely more conversions!
Useful advice, thankyou. Sometimes, the best tools are the simple ones you make/customise -- eg: a metal needle glued into a wooden handle made from dowel. Lately, silicone tipped shapers have been a revelation for me, and I recommend them to anyone who's not tried them yet.
I've always wondered why people speak so highly of Green Stuff because it doesn't behave as well as Apoxie Sculpt or Milliput in my experience.
The more conversions and sculpting the better. This is an area I'm not yet brave enough to break into and need to watch more quality content about.
love that production quality upgrade 👍
Hell yeah the intro is awesome. Only one thing: I found it a little bit too much when the Headline/title flew in two times. Maybe reduce it to one time at the end?
Regarding the Kitbash topic:
I can´t get enough of these. Especially yours! They are not like "I took part 1 from kit 1 and put them on model 2 instead of the box model". You always sculpt and put way more effort in them then expected. That is really cool and inspiring. Keep it up!
Hey trovarion!
I was watching your content a few months ago and honestly while you are a brilliant painter , the content you were producing didn’t show the justice of your pieces, but now having revisited, you have improved by miles!
You constantly switch with a variety of camera angles, keeping it interesting, you keep the mood up with witty language but still getting in the important info , all in a great , somewhat bite size video, not too mention how you’ve started using more music throughout the video witch keeps it less monotone where before you where just talking with no background sound!
I can’t emphasise enough how well you’ve improved, and I’ll definitely be regularly watching from now on!
Keep up the great work :D
almost like it's true what they say: If you keep learning you might be getting better!
@@trovarion also sorry if this came across abit rude at the start , I was just trying to be more honest 😅
@@foxhound24 no prob at all!
honesty when expressed in a non-hostile way is always good.
I would like definitely conversions and sculpting!
Trovarion you legend I am sitting here trying to make a realistic scaled robe for a Librarian. This was the right video at the right time!
I'd love a tutorial on how you made your own sculpting tools.
I use milliput and Green stuff... But milliput for the final surface, superfine milliput and rub with finishing sticks and it goes Glossy and a glass like super finish
Would love to see you do more videos on this
Not gonna lie I really want to see that primaris chaos space marine you were working on. That is some fine work on that trim!
Holy production values Trovarion! Great video, very useful information, thank you!
I do a lot of kitbashing and conversions of my Army as I have a Catachan Battalion, and using different manufacturers of kits, for my female units, Penal close combat, and lots of different Armoured units, etc, also war won trophies like a lot of Ork battleWagons, great command centers, Comms unit, and supply carriers. I use miliput, great stuff, and Superglue with Bicarb of soda, also use a construction resin from our local store, also a resin from our $2.00 shop which works just a no thrills resin.
Trial of different stuff, but first try on scrap plastic as some stuff will melt the plastic, as I do sculptures in clay, and work with Gemstones to pay for my hobby needs, I make my own tools for my needs.
As I'm an Injured veteran, wheelchair-bound, as hobbies keep me very focused on my needs, maybe disabled but I still have hands, can breathe and have a heartbeat, love life, and living, cheers everyone.
I saw 52 Miniatures using a 50/50 mix of Greenstuff and Milliput. I tried it, and it's great for certain usages!
Good video, I have some shapers already but may make some of the tools you mentioned. Will keep an eye out for the ball tool as well.
One question I had was around getting milliput to stick to the model/ surface. When I have been using it, it doesn’t seem to adhere to the model, am I doing so,etching wrong with the mix?
I would love to hear more about how you work with milliput. Do you use any kind of water to smooth it? How do you prevent it from sticking to your tools? What's the best way to clean up mistakes?
My favorite thing to use is 50/50 mix milli-put and green stuff. I have an easier time using green stuff as it’s just what I’ve used over the years. But having milliput turns it into a super material. And dries harder than a rock.
A 3 minute long talk in under 7 minutes! I give this video 11 out of 10!
I find milliput too crumbly. I find green stuff too waxy. I found that both of these issues disappear if you mix them together. You get a putty that is easier to work with and cures rock solid, while being less brittle than milliput. And you can adjust the mix to get the properties best suited to what you are working on.
I also find uses for the traditional metal tools (I've got some pretty thin and pointed one) and the soft tools. And a wet finger.
Can't say that I ever had a big problem blending green stuff. Water works with green stuff too. Not in quite the same way as Milliput.
Honestly, these days I just avoid using epoxy putty. If a project needs it, it ends up being pushed to the back of the queue. It's just a hassle to dig out the tools, mix the putty etc. etc. I'm just getting lazier in my old age.
I came here to advocate a milliput/GS mix, too. For exactly the same reasons. My sculpting conversions are at the front of my queue though- I love it!
I do the main masses and rough shapes of a large project like that lizardman all in green stuff. On larger projects (doing mutations on chaos knights at the moment) I find green stuff and larger tools are perfect, and then if I want to get down to small details then use Milliput over the green stuff or for individual small things. Once I'm doing the small stuff I do use my set of size 0 color shapers and needles!
I find Miliput to be messier, fussier, and more difficult to use, while green stuff is faster and easier to hit the ground running with as a beginner.
I really like these small videos. Another subject maybe could be paint rust both lightly rusted and heavily rusted surfaces. There is so many different products and techniques out there for painting rust that little video about the best techniques and products would be useful.
Awesome video sir, I'd love to see more In depth kit bashing tutorials. My sculpting ability Is nonexistent, but I'd love to develope it . Keep up the work sir🖖
Thanks Trovarion. Very helpful. And nice timing! I'm half way through my o
first sculpt.
I like green stuff. Both have thier uses I'm sure but overall I'm preferring Milliput.
Can I ask what grit of sandpaper do you use for Milliput?
Nvm! I got the answer from the God Tier gap filling vid you linked! :)
Half of my metal sculpting tools have been heavily modified. The other half are at the back of a drawer somewhere.....
Proper tools are essential for every job/work, IF the maker wants to get more out of whatever they're doing 👍
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
Thank you 👍
I'm watching your videos quite some time now, and I must admit, that while the content is allways great, your video quality is getting better and better. 👍
i really like the citadel sculpting tool is one of their few useful products, mine is the old one that came by itself not the new triple pack one tho so not sure if they changed.
yeah i love milliput, comes in many colors easy to mix the parts togeather, dries much faster
Just used Milliput for the first time yesterday. Great product, it works just like regular clay
true!
Amazon sells a set of silicone sculpting tools, a 10 pk of 5bg 5sml, for $5 very useful and they have the ball tool on the other.
Good point on the right tools first. BTW, I've got a bricklayer's trowel, any tips for moulding capes onto epic 6mm space marines?