This Underrated Painting HACK looks AMAZING!
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In this video we are exploring a technique that was a staple in the Arsenal of Miniature Painters, but was frowned upon for a long time. Can this revitalize it's popularity? Join me in this new episode of IS THIS TECHNIQUE TRASH OR GODSENT...
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“If I had this when I started painting, I’d probably have a fully painted army.”
Bless you for saying that.
I feel like the biggest breakthrough of Contrast/Speedpaints for experienced painters is not so much the one-coat approach, but the ability to make _really_ vibrant washes and glazes. It's good stuff!
True!
Yeah, I really like using speed paints as washes. Depending on the paint and what I am trying to do, I may thin the speed paint down a bit. Also I have used dry brushing before and or after the speed paint too where appropriate. This is really a style of painting I did in the 90s but with homemade washes. The speed paints really do flow well with this method.
The series name should be “Test the Technique”.
I love this approach. I’d call it the Minimalist Method. It’s a method using a limited pallet that’s applied fast enough to get minis painted quickly, but doesn’t sacrifice quality like most other speed painting methods.
True!
Trovarion's Technique Critique! Already looking forward to the next episode.
🧐 *CALL IT:* The Trovarian Technique/Trovchop
friendship with washes over, now contrast medium is my best firend.
I'd love to see how you'd approach black minis with this... both matt / satin types, and then on assassins or Harlequins where you get the latex/leather shine.
Whisper those sweet lies into my earholes
This series is amazing. Love how clearly you explain everything. Would be interesting to see you try the Artis Opus style of dry brushing in combination with some other things from this approach.
Series name-
Trash-hammer OR
Smash-hammer
Real Zippin’ Nice
Fast technique, looks nice and lots of information to unpack!
seriously though, the way you paint and the effect that you achieve usually make me want minis that I would never consider' or would never catch my eye.
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Saved this one. I particularly like what you said towards the final rating in that your brush skills make the end result more polished than someone not used to painting as much. This has been what I've tried to voice to many people watching youtube painters. Your brush strokes have a natural purpose that you can't exactly discuss because it's something you do with your tools. I think this is where the difference lays for us painters.
"Golden Demon Winning Artist Tries Newbie Techniques" or GODEWATNEWT for short.
I work in this way often. I like to use this over a zentihal prime with a white or off white drybrush highlight first.
*skips through to make sure there is no air brush* ok cool a new video to watch
Please do these for all kinds of styles. I would love to have a quick table that shows what techniques I can use when I want to prioritize speed/results/fun and then have a reference video for that technique.
Will definitely make more of these!
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Love the palette choice - I'm a sucker for white + orange, and love the teal in the recesses for contrast and focus. 😍
Love this style. Will push this for my aleph.
I suppose I do something similar, but for speed I generally just drybrush white over the contrast painted model, and then glaze over it again with thinned contrast paint 50/50 with medium to improve the transitions. You get really good contrast and readability this way, with pretty smooth transitions - faster and simpler but obviously not as neat as painting the highlights on, which is something I'd probably leave for characters.
The main benefit of this style for me is that it's super forgiving, but leaves plenty of room to build traditional painting skills on top of getting the model tabletop ready if you want to spend the extra time.
Great video. After going cold turkey on washes years back my painting got a lot better, which kinda teaches you to be close minded. Seeing the result you got in that timeframe though looks like I should give contrast medium a go. Really useful to see exactly how you're applying it too.
I'm on board for the rest of this technique tour!
SEEF painting. Speed, Ease, End result, Fun.
Love thos series! Thank you for your work!
This looks crazy good for only 2 hours. Amazing, keep up the great videos ❤👌
Series name suggestion: Technique Meter
I think the most important feature of any paintjob are shadows and highlights. I bet everything looks great with a oil wash and some edge highlights. Also the texture you paint creates a lot of interest.
I wonder how this technique compares to an oil wash, in terms of accuracy, ease of use and speed.
This type of painting will be the go to way of painting if not already
This new series is killing it!
Loving the content! Great work 😊👍🏽
Another great video, I am really enjoying this new series. Great job!
Great video, each step is so easy to follow and sinks into the brain cells, I would call it the easy step series.
Pigment police, creamy blend or stupid trend?, trovarion technique teardown, technique toolkit, paint winner or paint thinner? Will it blend?, Pushing the process, sorry ill stop now bored at work 😂
10/10 video mate, thank you!
I love your videos man. They are really well explained and are easy to follow.
Do you have any videos or would you he able to make one (or some if you fancy trying different ways) showing how to achieve a good metallic orange and some weathering and chipping on it in a way? I'd love to see that.
Wow that looks great. Fantastic combination of colours and techniques
Great video as always! I just picked up some more contrast medium to give stuff like this a go.
Great final paint job!
My friend and I use the term paint pooling for a technique similar to this using contrast paints. I think the way you use it is more precise will definitely try this out
The result is stunning!
Techniques Tested. Simples! :) Great job as always!
Workflow Workshop: Contrast Washes would be a pretty concise title I think, plus you’ve got the word ‘workshop’ in there for the algorithm haha
I can do the whole all-base-and-700-glazes that golden demon painters do every time, but I end up doing the majority of moat miniatures like this, and only take out the slower, more powerful technique in areas where the eye goes, and inks will not give me quite enough control. You don't have to pick only one!
The one issue is that you might end up with 7 trillion paints, as pure acrylic and a contrast range will overlap a lot.
Funny thing... A week or so ago, this same technique popped into my head but I haven't had a chance to try it out. Now I see that it can work so I'll definitely attempt it.
I like the pin shading using contrast paint. I'll use it for my fire hawks using orange as basecoat and contrast red for shading. Also good tips for white
This series is truly great! It would be great to have the name of each technique reviewed in the titles. For a title for the series: What the tech!?
Slap or crap could be a good title. would also be a funny play on slap-chop
This is such a great discovery series
I love this series. It's a very effective and pleasant way to improve my toolkit.
Series name should be, contrast techniques 101 for all skill levels
Might finally open the contrast paints I have for the first time to try this
I like your Videos most (painting tips / tutorials). Thanks a lot. I would like to see a Grim Dark Space Wolf from you :-). Something special. Perhaps not that babyblue style. Keep the great work.
I think you should add enjoyment as one of the factors you consider in the different processes.
Funfactor is not the same thing?
Contrast glazing i think is a good simple name
Ca you please do a black legion model! I’d love to see how you approach this in your grimdark style
I see you saw the LEGO scheme Votann image, nice Mars Mission
What is the base coat orange you used? I've never been able to get orange that smooth!
great video!
Runic Grey from AP is a very awesome and versatile Speedpaint color. i reccommend you plkay with that. its very fun.
Thinned down its a good shadow color for white or on slappchop uts the poor mans NMM
I'd like to see this approach and how it looks on Tau infantry, old school ochre scheme and see how it does
Really cool video format.Guess it is importent to show the white /black differences approach.
Question to the community: want to paint harlequins and have worries because of the diamond pattern.Are there good tutorials out there helping?Thx.
Rly good vid
Call it *Joy-ficiency*
Joy vs efficiency
Awesome! Is this mini from the Necromunda Ironhead Squats?
Just a regular votann
Stunning, so crisp. Any chance we could see this technique done with black?
Slap Chop PRO or just Pro Chop. Slap Happy? Slap a Pro?
Call it the KISS series. “Keeping it stupid simple”. Highlighting simple and easy techniques to paint to a pretty good standard quickly. Your not going for complicated NMM or golden demon level pieces, just good painting, relatively fast, that beginners can pick up quickly. To be fair there is probably a better name out there though.
Keep it simple, stupid. 😂😊
hmmm so it's a bit like Slapchop+ eh? you used contrast but i got a feeling you can also use other brands like AP speedpaint or Vallejo Xpress, just thin it to glaze consistency methinks and use it on solid colours base instead of well pure white. NEAT!
Tournament of Technique
pros and cons, painting styles - PCPS
I’d call it “Wash and Go”
do something with oils next!
title suggestion: The Joy of Exploring Techniques
a lil bob ross reference
Did oils for the first one.
@@trovarion i meant oils only. Not just pinwashing but actually using them for base colors etc
@@pepi560 i havent painted with oils in like 12 years, so probably not.
@@trovarion understandable, have a nice day 😄
Call it the warhipster technique, as he start this first.
Magical method science
hello i use this technique often but the problem i have is that sometimes the contrast paint flood over other parts of the minis (we can see it on this one the orange is leaking into the white part) and it get really hard to clean afterwards so for tabletop result is okay but won't do anything more for me, what is your take on this cause i really like this approach tho?
I found that the easiest way to handle that type of spill over is to keep a slightly moist clean brush handy and quickly soak up what spilled over.
Did you go back over the orange armor with a yellow wash? I feel like it looks like whitish highlights in one shot and then suddenly next shot is vibrant yellow highlights.
No, first highlight is a mix of orange and yellow, second highlight is pure yellow. On the helmet i added white in the last hl so it looks more shiny.
Can I ask what contrast paint you used over the white. Is it Apothecary white?
Celestra grey * contrast medium
What orange and yellow did you use? It looks beautiful!
I think the orange is the single pigment contrast from gw. Magmadroth flame I think
@@gnol4688 Yes I suspected that as well... curios why he only mentioned half the paints he used!
I like and hate contrast/speed paint.
I like that it opens the door for more painted minis on the table. I have been so happy walking through the lgs and not seeing a single primed or bare mini on a gaming table in months..
Now my hate of contrast/speed paint, and the context,
i have been painting minis for more than 30 years, ten of those doing commission work on top of my own stuff....
i Personally I won't touch it again, I was not happy with the results, how it acted, the wildly inconsistencies in pigment density withina paint line. The best looking result was basically a "super contrast" black and white paint job, with contrast airbrushed over it. The piece was good enough it is in my display case.
Now, I am just gonna out myself and say my paint collection looks odd at a glance..
There are 7 bottles of ink, 4 different mediums, two different flow improvers, a bag of pipette, a set of laminated pages with ink mixture for specific colors and a pile of dropper bottles with a glass bead in them waiting for paint. Anything that is pre mixed is sitting on the shelf looking normal.
Then there is a pile of oil paints, mainly for oil washes or Blanche style painting
This system is way more work than the average gamer wants to put in and the paint can be horribly fragile unless you use multiple clear coats. I mix everything so it is airbrush ready.
But I can mix my own contrast like paints. I don't, i am not a fan of pooling, it drives me absolutely nuts. So, I like washes and glazes to act like they should.
Is this really a technique in its own right? It kind of looks like basically layering a coat of filter/shade using glaze medium then highlighting it as usual. Does the contrast medium work wildly different somehow? I mean is it a really one coat shade and forget thing? I am inclined to think it is not, and there was some coverup necessery as usual, but that happened in the highlighting process sort of..
I really enjoy where this series is going and have really enjoyed the first two video. However, the final level achieved in the two methods isn't the same. One is grim dark the latest (this one) is just painted to a good level, no chipping or streaking has been added to the time. So this would be much slower than the time shown.
All that said, keep up the great work.
fair enough, but gotta try and set a boundary somewhere - what I mean is: If every video uses the same techniques then it doesn't quite make sense to compare the approaches, if that makes sense? Here I went for a more "traditional" result, where it is about finishing the model to a midtone-highlight-shades result, while the other one is more about creating depth with non-acrylic and non traditional techniques. The next one will be about drybrushing and the one after that about grimdark/sponge painting - none of these will use similar techniques to any of the first two, again, so we can better compare.
@trovarion fair enough😀. I really look forward to them. However, it does invalidate your "time" comparison. I don't care as I think the concept of reviewing techniques is a useful one, but the time comparison is pointless. For example, this method I can get nmm in 4 hours, this one table top ready basic painting in an hour this one if one batch paints grim dark takes 1.5 to 2 hours. Great but does it take 4 +1 to do nmm + grim dark or 3 + 1.5. It just doesn't match. If each method finished at say grim dark, different techniques or quality finishes but we get a valid time indicator.
At the end of the day I don't really care. Your teaching style is great and I care more about the learning techniques or at least where to start than I care about time.
Hope this is all still working for you. You are much appreciated.
What color is the orange you basecoated with??
orange fire by vallejo game color
Call it "S.E.E. how fast".
How about something like "Technique Tests with Trovarian" for a series name?
Actually a very nice aproach.
But did you use a spray can to prime the minie? It really has a dusty/frosty look, and it hurts so much to look at 😁
Yeah I fucked that up normally I don't use white primer...but it's youtube and I had a deadline to release the video, so I worked with what I had. No time to assemble a new mini. Usually I prime black and then airbrush the mini white since that gives a smoother surface to work with.
Shadelighting
can this be done with black contrast paint? if you want some color to show on the highlights?
yes! you probably have to play around a bit with dillution. I always recommend to start more dilluted, because you can always apply a second thin layer!
cool thanks:) will try it on my black templars@@trovarion
What do painters mean when they say "volumes"?
Or you can use the almighty sponge for all your blending.
Great technique.
What's that figure? I don't recognize it.
New Votann range from GW
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Glazetrast
slapwash ?
Funny, I kinda just ran into this method due to following Juan Hidalgo's (hope I spelt that right) Eavy Contrast series and then trying to speed the process up and experimenting.
What is that head?
How this awesome Orange is called?
It's not fast enough anyway so you don't need to know
@@trovarion 😏
So I see you took my advice on the ease of use instead of difficulty (seriously I don't really think It was my advice only 😅).
So for the series name, maybe follow your natural tendency of readability of your teachings and call it something like "painting approaches rated" or something like that. I think that would suit the style of your channel.
5:21 Dunno if AI is great for referencing shading lol
I like this approach...but as you said, I use it mostly on natural elements, like fur or cloth. You should try these methods on some miniatures that have multiple textures, like Chaos Warriors or some Stormcast models. Maybe some chaos marines. I know that 40k and space marines generate more views...but if you do one fantasy mini it probably won't kill you.