HUGELY IMPROVED: Could US Really Destroy Iran's Entire Navy In A Single Day? (WarGames 195b) | DCS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
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Today we ask take another look at the question whether a US aerial strike could wipe out the entire Iranian Navy in a single day. We start with a flotilla of US Arleigh Burke Destroyers firing SM-6 missiles, then two flights of F-35 Lightning 5th Gen jets with AGM-158C LRASM anti-ship missiles, then send in the FA-18, F-16 and F-15E jets to mop up.
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Any plans to add the AARGM-ER to your F35 mod? It would make it the ultimate SEAD platform
We've been using it for a couple of years: th-cam.com/video/EBzsu3UrFA8/w-d-xo.html
My question is, does DCS have the JASSM-XR or renamed the AGM-158B-2 with the 2000 lb, 910KG warhead and the 1,900 km or 1,200 mile range.. real life service deliveries were scheduled to begin this month...
F35???? The world champion diver for 6 years in a row
The best diver the inferior Usan brains can make
F35....The undisputed world diving champion
@@grimreapershowever the usa navy all can easily be destroyed by iran in seconds
The Usans are still living on the tree tops....no brains
Operation Praying Mantis II: Electric Boogaloo
"Proportional"
@@rpease96 SUNK everything with Iranian flag: I believe we were a little bit TOO proportional this time.
@@panan7777 Nah, the proportions just happen to be American-sized
@@rpease96 stop adding iran to your vietnam afghanistan coverups lol us destroyed 2 speed boats and a dinky frigate out of 350 destroyers frigates gunboats and iran wasn't even fighting us, fighting uk france sweden and tons behind iraq, and iran destroyed krats and strebor spelled spelled backwards + 2 gun boats, and 3 recon choppers during a lunch break, lol
Rules Based Order - Our Rules, Your Orders...
I hate when targets "don't accept" damage.
It's just very, very rude isn't it?
Bit Trumpy… he doesn’t accept damages 😂😂😂
@@milnez Damages from lies should not be allowed.
harpoon missile? "no sir not to day thank you"
@@patmcbride9853 guess thats why they went to court to prove he did in fact lie
A bad day for Muffy and I to be cruising the Gulf in our personal water craft and be mistaken for a gun boat.
Persian gulf*
@fuller9x I hope you didn't spill your pitcher of gin and tonics.
@@JeffTaylor-tr7my We absolutely did. And finding new help these days is such a chore. I will have to send a strongly worded letter to my member of parliament about this outrage.
"Terribly sorry about that. We'll fish you out when we swing back around."
@@WEKM please hurry. We've run out of canapes and now have to look at eating *gulp* tinned salmon
8:00 my Son in law is currently stationed on the USS Michael Murhpy (DDG112). Super cool to see it in the game.
He stationed in the M.E.? Hope his deployment gets exciting and he still comes back safe.
@@PeterMuskrat6968 I can't say where the Michael Murphy is being deployed, it's currently in San Diego re supplying and it's in the fleet that's replacing the Eisenhower in the Med and the Red sea. The recent drone attack is a concern but the Arleigh Burkes are absolute beasts... Thank you for the comment and the thoughts, I appreciate it.
It might have been slightly cheaper to use Hellfire on the PT's, and even the old harpoons might be enough on the corvettes, frigates and other larger ships.
Not a chance. The US ships that are simulating the Iranian ships would shoot down all Harpoons and/or Hellfire's. Has to be stealth. And the smaller patrol craft would be tough for a Harpoon to lock onto. LGB's are the ticket. The only platform in DCS that can fire the Hellfire is the Reaper drone, the Predator drone and the Apache. Not fast enough for those distances.
@@valuedhumanoid6574 The bigger ships might be able to shoot down the harpoons, they are just not the newest tech there is so some might come through. The PT-boats should have a problem with the hellfires, and the choppers should not go near the bigger ships as they are vulnerable.
There is a reason the 🇬🇧 got rid of that awful missile on the Apache and went with Brimstone...Now we've had to go with it on the new batch..
It is indeed never a war crime the first time. Nice to hear a Chubby Electron Guy reference.
😂 Chubby Electric Guy, ❤
It indeed was a "proportional" reference :P
I'll forgive his blasphemy against the metric system, but only because American Imperial system is defined by metric units.
Old Blubber Spark is a good story teller.
loved hearing the husky power man references
And also "Proportional"
Yes, yes, they really could, they almost did it in the 80s ‘by mistake’. Iran hasn’t progressed, the Yanks have.
You are delusional my guy ... IRAN haven't progressed since 80's ? Whatever it is you are smoking is the real deal budd .
Yes Saied. iran had a weak navy/
@@leekmuynuts139 dude what are you on about how does that have anything to do with what i said ? ....
@@saiedvalypour1963you didn’t even make an argument my dude 😂
Iran has progressed but not in a way that you think.
Can you imagine what the Iranian radio channels would sound like when the first wave from the Arleigh Burkes starts assigning those fast attack boats to submarine duty?
The crazy thing is that the F-35 is capable of utilizing ship cruise missiles to attack targets. So once the ships are taken care of, F-35s would be lighting up any military structure in Iran and having them destroyed.
It would be very busy, frantic, and loud....but would quickly calm down to nearly nothing.
Could a single iowa class battleship defeat Iran's navy 🤔
Nice
@@grimreapers if it fails id love to see a modern version of the Montana class had they been built today.
@@grimreapers The WWII version with all its small calibre guns might have an easier time than the newest.
@@surters my only point is new ships are not made for close quarter fighting. Though if we ever do this on a navl sim instead of flight it may be able to actually have the armor function as armor.
Small rounds would just bounce off. Still interested in seeing what missile would do.
So if you have a ship modeler , here is basic what id want from a modern Montana to bring it up to speed. Firstly armor belt of at least 16" equivalent. The 4 triple barrel 16" main gun turrets get a higher caliber and or longer barrels. Replace all heavy aa guns with sea wiz. Keep the double 5" turrets but maybe Replace one or two with sea ram launchers . Find a way to fit harpoon missile launchers possibly the size of Arleigh Burke if not double. Take the double smoke funal to one if possible to free up room for box launchers as well as a mid ships behind turrets 3 hella pad and bay for two bird. Replace all fixed wing aircraft with multiple drones. If possible get its speed up to 35 knots
My god, I can't get enough of this content. I'm completely emersed in this. It's every war film I've ever wanted to see made, with educational qualities
I can appreciate the effort, but the main thing to remember is that DCS weapons are not known for their realistic effects. Also, the latest US weaponry capability is still classified in regards to what upgrades have been done. AND the game's hit-boxes are not the greatest. A HARM can take out the radar on a missile frigate and thereby make it pretty much useless against air threats, something DCS fails to allow.
In any major conflict against Iran's navy the US might take some losses, but there would be no Iranian navy afterwards.
I don't think they even take losses, the US navy isn't going to even be in range lol the F-35 is basically invisible to everyone but China so they would just fly a couple sorties and launch cruise missiles from hundreds of miles away and call it a day. There's no chance anyone even knows what's happening until they are already exploding. The only scenario where Iran even has a shot is if the US is forced to engage quickly at close range which simply wouldn't happen
Do you know what game this is?
Being fair, unless the frigate is unsupported, the loss of one ship's radar array wouldnt mean they are incapable of air defence. Aegis can exchange target data between ships.
In any major conflict, the Iranian Navy would be almost completely irrelevant. Iran would launch massive waves of drones, ballistic missiles and cruise missiles. Their navy and air force, if they even deployed at all, would basically just serve to distract US/allied forces from the main threats.
DCS?? @@janixaudio7751
36:36 Oh dang, you sunk my battleship.
The best line in the game.
A german clanmate of mine told me a joke:
Q: How many germans does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: One, because we are efficient and have no sense of humour.
@8:42 SM-2 Block IIIC, deployed on Arleigh Burke DDGs beginning 2021, are indeed OTH capable as they incorporate the same active terminal guidance seeker as the SM-6.
I DID go to that DISCORD, I DID install DCS. I DID get horrified by all the controls it takes to actually be a Warfighter Aviator. I DID watch super cool Netherlands dude fly with keyboard. But, I DID get totally scared to have to learn SOOOO much at my age, spend so much to be able to just fly out and dumps a bunch of CBU-97s on top of a bunch of knot heads and enjoy all the boom booms. I'll just watch you EXPERTS and hope more CBU-97 activity comes along to satisfy my boom boom fetish. Carry on.
35:10 C'mon Grump - You, Simba and Fly are the trifecta in Cap's side - great mission!
They would hit the large ships first and subs would take part in the hunt. It would not even be a competition.
Well it would be…
It’d just be a competition between the US ships, aircraft, and subs to get the most kills.
@@blademaster2390Ships couldn’t enter the gulf for a while. The would succumb to a barrage of Anti ship missiles
@@tetraxis3011 From shore batteries that would be smoked by F-35s long before the ships were in range of them. Remember how many anti-air missiles Saddam had prior to Desert Storm? He had quite a lot, keyword is had because the US air campaign made them disappear.
@demomanchaos As HLC puts it “send them back to factory fucking settings in under 40days” DS1 air campaign was amazing to watch
I stumbled onto this channel and loved it, very cool how detailed your interactions are!
Good to see it back GR's. I appreciate your approach whole-heartedly.
Awesome as always Cap. Love your content….
always enjoy the videos you guys bring out, always a good way to spend some quality time,. many thanks!
that landing at the end was impressive. On your first approach i was like no way is he landing. well done.
I love watching you theoretical battles, very entertaining, no screaming like most vid of this nature lol.
Your very professional with your commands a decent pilot and def a good team leader.
Cool shit man, keep it up! 👍👍
If you stopped at just what the Arleigh Burkes did, that would still be a very bad day for the Iranian Navy.
Matrix “Finally Shak”….with 10 seconds left in the video 😂😂😂. Well done Matrix!!
I just wanted to say I love your guises videos and it’s gotten me through some tough nights. I’m trying to get into this type of gaming and I know you guys have public channels and you know I look forward to one day playing with you guys.
I feel like Grump watched The Fat Electrician video on Americas "Proportional" response to Iran inadvertently raising American gas prices 😂
I mean who doesn't watch Fat Electrician?
@@WyvernFalken Communist
@@WyvernFalken if he only knew what iran destroyed, lol
@@ariaspes3842 they're too busy sinking their own vessels. Lol
@@WyvernFalken stop adding iran to your Afghanistan Vietnam coverup list, lol us destroyed 2 speed boats and a dinky frigate out of 350 destroyers frigates gunboats and iran wasn't even fighting us, fighting uk france sweden and tons behind iraq, lol and that's 1/2 of iran's navy? that makes you 33rd in math, lol oh and iran destroyed krats and strebor spelled spelled backwards + 2 gun boats, and 3 recon choppers lol
Letss goooo yet another banger from gr
Would love to see what the 16 MQ-9B Protector that the UK has ordered armed with Brimstones would make of that boat swarm as its the kind of threat they are designed to deal with (armour/small boat swarms). I mean with a murder spec you could put 9 triple Brimstone launch rails on each or 6 triple launch rails and 3 Paveway IV's!
Hey Cap, thanks for the entertainment as always. Just a quick note from the briefing, and I never mentioned this before, but I'm pretty sure the F-35 will be limited to 2x LRASM. However, with the 1,000 F-35 just off the line (global militiaries), that just means the USAF would effectively double the jets versus the amount in your videos carrying four. Perhaps worth a comment during the brief for realism sake, but I don't think it's worth additional work on your end. Thanks!
Good Video guys!
Cap, love your Jerry Miculek "Get Some" reference when there is a smack down on a Red.
The fact that you can see the console reflection in the canopy is absolutely amazing.
Those manpads may be able to go 3-4 miles in an arc and hit a low/slow flying jet or helicopter. But I'd be very surprised if they can go half that vertically. 10-12k feet should keep most jets pretty safe from something like that.
As long as you aren't right over the launcher. That 20k ceiling only applies above the launcher because of course, the engagement zone is shaped like a dome
33:11 Your “That’s Numberwang!” comment did not go unnoticed. Great callback to a hugely under appreciated comedy show.
'Ignore the SA 6's...... they're minging'. I just love it when the Reapers get technical, with the emphasis on education. 😂
I love that you one of you guys watch the fat electrician on youtube. Talking about proportional and it ain't a war crime the first time. Another one of his catchphrases is steal.... strategically transfer equipment to Alternative locations
And if anybody's interested watch Fat electricians operation praying mantis
Yeh GR are a fan.
@@garbagemanstacking
another vietnam afghanistan cover up of what really happened, lol
Big boom-boom and sexy fly-bys. Very entertaining, chaps. Lovely flying.
I have to say when I was on the Submarines (US) we were always super fast in taking off our missiles (non-nuke) as soon as we came into port. We always joked there weren't enough missiles to go around and I still believe that. With Tomahawks costing 1 Million each you can bet we don't have thousands sitting around.
There probably is, but some Adm somewhere probably found a way to make it look like he is savings millions by doing this.
Those are some BEAUTIFUL liveries. Such a pretty red, and that green paintjob?
"Overkill is underrated"
THAT'S how it's done! Nice work, Cap and the boys! I did miss seeing FlyByWire's awesome livery though -- next time!
Always good to see Fly in a video
Just started the video. Cap, just hope there’s no baby punching 🤣😊
What do you think they are dropping laser guided bombs on patrol boats for? One of those things can take out a frigate which is 10 times larger! 😂
Baby punching banter is TERRIBLE for de-monetization...
@@grimreapers No way ………..🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@gregthomson8251
smallest iranian boats are equipped with automated ens keeping their distance from objects by 5+ miles, making those mk38s shoot lots of blanks, they fire with a 107 mm mrls(practically rockets) and bow mounted dshk 12.7 mm hmg . oh yeah baby, you gots yourself a wiiiiinner, lol
Well done *_REAPERS_* -CHEERS-
Add 300-400 drones attacking the USN fleet at the same time.
Can’t do that because…….viewers 😂
How did the rl ‘attack of the drones’ go…
Thank you GR for the great work in making this video a cake walk! 😂 Only 2 planes down due to pilot error! Truly outstanding performance! 🫡
I don't understand most of what you're saying (terminology, not accent problems, I don't think) and I don't know what software you're using, but I enjoy your videos. Of course, anytime I get to see USA win is fun. 😁 Thanks for making the content!
Nice work, those Iranian FAC all have some sort of ASM missiles, did the onrs used here have that armament?
They not only could, they should.
1 rapid dragon with cluster option with deconfliction
oof that would be a NIGHTMARE for me to set up!
i prefer it when you spectate the battle like its a simulation instead of playing and being in the cockpit
Grim Reapers making it look easy!
I'm wondering how many different generations of fighter/bomber you could go back before it would be impossible to accomplish this mission? ie: since you are all currently well versed in the Mosquito.. could it be done?
Cheers!!
I appreciate the effort you put in to set-up the scenario, but to cluster the enemy ships by class is not only unrealistic, it is also far to easy to cluster the appropriate weapons accordingly.
An interesting scenario might be the Iranian revolutionary guard vs their conventional military or other countries that have a two teir military
11:09 He thinks he's a torpedo! :D
I heard the Fat Electrician being quoted. Very nice.
You Rock!
When I saw the swarm of fast attach boats, my first thought was 'A GBU-43 MOAB or three could do a lot of damage there...' Would have been cheaper than all those SMs
Al Dhafra Air base is in the middle of nowhere in the Abu Dhabi desert. US has every asset you can imagine stationed there. When I was there in 2016 they were still flying missions almost daily like clock work. There is so much more shit going on than you can even imagine. I have to leave it at that. One interesting thing was watching the Emir's son fly around like a maniac in his F-16 every day. Very good air show pilot. F-16 can maneuver way more than ever displayed at airshows I've watched.
DFACs had great food though. Just not much to do unless you have a pass to go off base into the city. Beautiful and clean. Great people of all nations and countless malls, Ferrari world, clubs, and places to eat.
2 minutes into the fight, America has spent half a billion dollars! Also, as others commented, great "Proportional" references.
The LRASM missile seems to share a visual profile of the Yf-23. At least from some aspect angles.
This game reminds me alot of digital image design f-22 air dominance fighter with red sea operations.
Real life has one thing going for it: The graphic is amazing!
FireDad has a nice lookin McD/Boeing machine!
F-35s doing a tribute to the Grim Reapers on the landing... well done!
I believe the aphorism you're looking for is, "Overkill is underrated."
Some better improvements for realism: the Iranian Navy won’t be clumped together so maybe have them at their bases with the larger vessels in a forward posture. Also lol at SM-6 fired on patrol boats.
33:26 to quote his holiness, the Dalai Lama, "Ain't no kill like overkill."
I finally got my wife to watch a GR video with me! And she loved it!
There's a saying for that. Happy GR Wife - Happy Life ! 😉
Next time, add more AI jets the the USAF, and have the players instead flying Iranian Tombcats to defend the fleet.....
Also gotta love the value for money - $600m worth of anti aircraft missiles to splash $17m worth of Boghammars...
It's honestly quite difficult off the top of my head to imagine it's a powerful the early bird class is. They really are impressive.
Would Maverick missiles have a big enough bang to take out the speedboat type enemies? If so, I am thinking you could technically carry more "bombs" than something laser guided?
Yes, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Morvarid, two (ironically) Iranian F-4 Phantoms armed with 6 Mavericks each managed to sink 7 Iraqi ships, 3 Osa II's (235 t each), and 4 P-4's (24 t each).
i.e. with those numbers, larger PT boats (far larger than the speedboats in this simulation) require service from at the absolute most, 2 missiles each, possibly only one each.
they blow up tanks what do you think lol
@@Robert-hy3vv but sometimes in DCS bombs that you expect to be fatal in real life doesn't quite do the same in game
Air land and sea at scale where the loses of one wargame effects the rest
A series of wargames that takes attrition into account for each successive engagement
By at scale i mean divide it by whatever you half too to be able to run in DCS @@gigaslave
The perry at 18:40 took a direct hit but no damage it seems.
Hey I’m new to DCS, and I have a question. How do I make the AI fire immediately? If I’m fighting an F-15, it won’t shoot me from 100 miles, 25 miles or even 5 miles. It waits until it can use sidewinders and is super close. I should never make it to the merge in a Frogfoot against anything like an F-15. I’ve got everything on ace skill as well.
We might just find out real soon......
I can't wait to get my gear together and learn to fly so I can eventually join this.
Nice carrier landing Cap! RyanAir requests you submit your resume when you're done flying for the Navy.
I'm surprised to see so many items in play without crashing your computer.
Did you get an upgrade?
2:46 "hard deck"
SM-2s actually are over-the-horizon capable via inertial guidance.
I LOVE YOUR Sarcastic British mouth. 😅😅😅😅 I am new subscriber and I love your channel way better than growling.Sidewinder that's for sure.
"its never a warcrime for the first time"
Best quote of the day
Is Grump the Dark blue livery? if so, it's sick!
Yup
Grumps fictional 509th!
@@WyvernFalken very fine!
My question: was the CWIS on the russian corvette stand-ins disabled? Were they disabled on the OHPs too? And if not, Why did they not Engage the LASRMs?
They don't have the ability to track the LRASM due to its small RCS and low altitude.
Great video, cap and GRs. You know the next logical scenario will be: Can the Pakistani Navy beat the Iranian Navy. ;)
with those small patrol boats so closely packed together. wonder if dropping multiple CBU's dropped from FL200 will potentially kill multiple boats with several bomblets.
It's not a question about whether they could or not. It's a question of what way is cheapest? Probably a submarine with torpedoes as torps cannot be used for other tasks unlike missiles.
26:16 Wow ;)
Proportional. Quack Bang Out.
Deconflict so that missiles all strike the right targets at the same time = "TIME ON TARGET"!
The craziest thing is when you say your tax dollars at work, its most likely the US tax payers paid for the Iranian boats...
I would like to see less Flight III's in the future. Unless the combat scenario is best vs best, it's not super likely there would be any, especially not multiple, flight III's. I's and II's are still very capable, but it adds just a little more accuracy.
This... But with a task force centered on the Battleship Uss New Jersey.
Correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't the Arleigh Burkes engage with 5" guns after firing missiles and going after the remaining targets? Granted they would have to move at flank speed to get into range, but I hope the AI does this.
The Pentagon is taking notes....
Arleigh Burke Destroyers firing ASMs from VLS is a mod? If I try ship vs ship with awacs in mission editor AB's shoot only their harpoons.
I don't know how you guys can do all this. I've been on DCS for almost 6 months now. I am sending every available minute learning the F16. It gets overwhelming from time to time. I've had to develop new ways to process data. Landing is a good example. I find doing a verbal check list and talking my way through the process is the best way to achieve the proper landing consistency.
AAR is just not something I can do yet.
So I don't know how you guys can be effective in multiple different aircraft.
In relation to the surface fleet, would the US not set it up like they did in operation praying mantis? 3 groups of ships with their own missions?