This would be great for me. Hauling wood around the yard, drive 5km down the road and another 5km on trails for trout fishing and bird hunting. I rarely ride more than 25km in a day.
Curious of the battery warranty details. Does 70% battery capacity degradation still fall within suitable conditions? So after 5 years you’re down to 56 mile range [driving like a grandma], at which point is not acceptable. Great review though fellas Edit: even the way you were driving, routine trail recreation, the estimated range shown @5:43 of 34 miles at 62% is only calc’d out to 55 miles total range from full. Plowing or really doing anything in the cold? Hmm I dunno. I sure wouldn’t want to be out in the wilderness and wonder if my 20% will get me home. I guess rule of 3rds from boating could apply. But I much prefer taking a 5L jerry with me just in case
The battery warranty is for five years, but non-defective lithium-ion batteries don’t lose 30% capacity in five years. And the batteries don’t care how aggressively you drive. How long will the battery last? Over the course of a typical ownership period, the batteries are designed to last the life of the vehicle. For example, although the longevity of the batteries depends on factors that can vary widely from customer to customer like frequency of use and miles of use, an average customer ownership period should retain 90-95 percent of the original battery capacity! That means that these batteries can go thousands of miles before they may lose only a few miles of range.
@@andrewsbbq Polaris warrants the battery for five years, and they are not just winging it with fluffy optimism. Their warranty is based engineering analysis and extensive historical experience with lithium ion batteries. They’re using Zero’s technology, so have plenty of historical data - along with the extensive industry experience with lithium-ion batteries. If you lose 30% capacity after five years, the battery is deemed defective and you file a warranty claim. The expected degradation for a non-defective battery, though, is actually only 5-10%.
@@ChitFromChinola 5 years is the warranty, but ownership could be 25 years. Only way it isn't degrading more in adverse conditions is locked reserve capacity offsetting it Does it have battery conditioning? Or will it push snow at -15 winter after winter and only see 5% loss. Even the trail riding in the video massively killed its range potential. Call me when solid state is reliably in consumer hands and economical
@@andrewsbbq Ok, but how but this? EV batt life is generally tracked by the amount of charge cycles. The average according to a quick search is 1500-2000 charge cycles. Let's knock that down to 1000 for worse case. They say 80 mile range but as you (and DirtTrax) pointed out, that gets reduced with agressive driving. So lets use 50 miles. Simple math is 50K miles. That's a lot of miles for a SxS and probably a much longer life span than most SxS engines with sooooo much less maintenance.
Have you used it in the mountains? My use would be on a mountain trail averaging about a 15 degree slope but at times up to an approximately 25 degree slope. I am assuming a dry trail. I like the quiet stealthiness and decreased risk of sparking a wildfire. Slow for safety is fine - just need to make it. Nice that it has a place to mount a winch to help out.
This would be a great SXS for scouting animals in. Early morning drives to find bears and moose would be so nice in something this quiet! If you have a powerboost f-150, the newly released PHEV Ford Ranger or the upcoming Jeep Gladiator 4xe, you will be able to charge this SXS while camping or hunting.
Outside of long way trips or overnight camping lacking any power, hard not to like this. 60 miles is actually a long distance in a SxS or any off-roader. This would satisfy the majority of users easily. Especially those who use it for utility. It would make a great plow rig, no cold start to get it going and outside of commercial use, not many will plow 60 miles of driveway. Cost and battery life-cycle will be the only issue. On some cars the batts are estimated to last 300K or more so if this can handle 50K, that will reach the life most will give a SxS.
Power wise just fine, better than a lead acid+alternator. What is does to range? If you have a 300w light bar, and 400w stereo at full that’ll be 0.7kwh usage on this approx 30kwh battery. So if you were camping with a full battery you could hypothetically run the light bar full time and stereo at max for 43 hours
I already ordered one for my farm. Quiet, torque monster, no oil changes, and it makes you laugh every time you punch it. Plenty of range for my place. Plug it in at night, and I’ve got a full battery for the next day. Dig it.
I’ll never buy an electric sxs it just doesn’t work for me. I sure hope if the industry does go all electric polaris will keep selling parts for my rzr.
Explain why it doesn't work for you. If they make an electric rzr with the only difference is one is battery powered where is the disadvantages in your opinion?
@@vaughnburrows Range! I go out on 200+ mile trips and the range of EV sxs just isn’t there. Also, when Polaris gives the range of the bigger battery units that’s perfect world scenario (no hills, light throttle, outside temp, etc).
@@cactusanal9395 bahaha or maybe it's far superior technology in every way. But you can stick to your exploding chambers and conspiracy theories Einstein.
There are a ton of applications for this machine and its evident by it being completely sold out. It has been for quite some time now. Small to large farm will benefit from this machine. Many here use older golf carts from local golf courses to get around. Adding a cab and the HVAC (Northstar Edition) takes this to the next level. Starting our Gator to go down to the mail box (long driveway) for packages or run down to the the barn isn't always ideal. Our furthest pasture is 5mi away and the parents are the same distance. I do wonder about the charging end of this machine several years down the line
I'm the last person to root for electric autos but an electric SXS is a game changer for a small ranch or a farm. Way less maintenance costs and lightning fast when you need to haul a*s. Not to mention instant torque and quieter than an owl fart 😂
It would be fine around the farm or worksite. But I often ride 75 to 100 miles. A couple of gallons of gas is lighter than a generator. Electric is good but not quite ready for prime time. Thanks, I always enjoy you videos.
We charge ours at campgrounds near the trails and never have problem. Technical trail riding at 15 to 20 mph will yield 100 miles of range and 12 hours of riding. Most people bast bar to bar in 5 to 10 mile increments.
Maybe if I had a farm and used it for that however when I go ride for the weekend I'm out all day and night. What would be the range while night riding with both my light bars on, bluetooth music playing loud..not for recreation but you said it, has its place
What’s the charge time from empty, or even 25-30%? How much difference does 240 to 120 charging make? What was your experienced range? How much did that drop when hauling?
I go 30 miles on some rough trail to get to my staging site to then hike another half mile to mys tand. Theres no way this will make it to and from my stand. How fast will it charge on the 30amp cord? It probably wont do me mich hood in hunting, but it would be nice to have a rig for the ranch and charge it with my solar shed for free.
There will be a battery density revolution coming. When that happens electric motors will absolutely replace gas engines. That said, the generation of electric power will also need to change because the current electric generation capacity is not prepared. The wildcard is when the battery density revolution will happen.
Looks like the original 1000xp except for one downfall it's battery operated I don't care how much power it has or how quite this pricepoint it better be able to go on trails all day ery few people will use it strictly for work don't want any part of electric sxs or vehicle
If the day comes that electric takes over the off road industry it'll be the day I quit off roading...this EV BS is ruining the car and truck industry and it'll ruin this industry if people don't wake up to this scam.
I've had an electric car for 5 years. It kicks ass! Faster and cheaper to run than my gas stuff. If that's ruining and scammed, I guess I'll be a sucker every day!😀
Yeah man technology is so horrible. Who wants much more powerful, quiet and efficient machines? Better to make a lot of noise and go nowhere while overheating some crap CVT gearbox. lol get a grip..
This would be great for me. Hauling wood around the yard, drive 5km down the road and another 5km on trails for trout fishing and bird hunting. I rarely ride more than 25km in a day.
Awesome machine. The price tag is pretty high for something relatively new. I would love to test one for a year, if Polaris would send me one.😉
Curious of the battery warranty details. Does 70% battery capacity degradation still fall within suitable conditions? So after 5 years you’re down to 56 mile range [driving like a grandma], at which point is not acceptable.
Great review though fellas
Edit: even the way you were driving, routine trail recreation, the estimated range shown @5:43 of 34 miles at 62% is only calc’d out to 55 miles total range from full.
Plowing or really doing anything in the cold? Hmm I dunno. I sure wouldn’t want to be out in the wilderness and wonder if my 20% will get me home. I guess rule of 3rds from boating could apply. But I much prefer taking a 5L jerry with me just in case
The battery warranty is for five years, but non-defective lithium-ion batteries don’t lose 30% capacity in five years. And the batteries don’t care how aggressively you drive.
How long will the battery last?
Over the course of a typical ownership period, the batteries are designed to last the life of the vehicle. For example, although the longevity of the batteries depends on factors that can vary widely from customer to customer like frequency of use and miles of use, an average customer ownership period should retain 90-95 percent of the original battery capacity! That means that these batteries can go thousands of miles before they may lose only a few miles of range.
@@ChitFromChinola that's spec sheet optimism.
@@andrewsbbq
Polaris warrants the battery for five years, and they are not just winging it with fluffy optimism. Their warranty is based engineering analysis and extensive historical experience with lithium ion batteries. They’re using Zero’s technology, so have plenty of historical data - along with the extensive industry experience with lithium-ion batteries.
If you lose 30% capacity after five years, the battery is deemed defective and you file a warranty claim. The expected degradation for a non-defective battery, though, is actually only 5-10%.
@@ChitFromChinola 5 years is the warranty, but ownership could be 25 years.
Only way it isn't degrading more in adverse conditions is locked reserve capacity offsetting it
Does it have battery conditioning? Or will it push snow at -15 winter after winter and only see 5% loss.
Even the trail riding in the video massively killed its range potential.
Call me when solid state is reliably in consumer hands and economical
@@andrewsbbq Ok, but how but this? EV batt life is generally tracked by the amount of charge cycles. The average according to a quick search is 1500-2000 charge cycles. Let's knock that down to 1000 for worse case. They say 80 mile range but as you (and DirtTrax) pointed out, that gets reduced with agressive driving. So lets use 50 miles. Simple math is 50K miles. That's a lot of miles for a SxS and probably a much longer life span than most SxS engines with sooooo much less maintenance.
i bought mine almost completely to talk to the person sitting next to me, only had it a week but love it !
Have you used it in the mountains? My use would be on a mountain trail averaging about a 15 degree slope but at times up to an approximately 25 degree slope. I am assuming a dry trail. I like the quiet stealthiness and decreased risk of sparking a wildfire. Slow for safety is fine - just need to make it. Nice that it has a place to mount a winch to help out.
This would be a great SXS for scouting animals in. Early morning drives to find bears and moose would be so nice in something this quiet! If you have a powerboost f-150, the newly released PHEV Ford Ranger or the upcoming Jeep Gladiator 4xe, you will be able to charge this SXS while camping or hunting.
Outside of long way trips or overnight camping lacking any power, hard not to like this. 60 miles is actually a long distance in a SxS or any off-roader. This would satisfy the majority of users easily. Especially those who use it for utility. It would make a great plow rig, no cold start to get it going and outside of commercial use, not many will plow 60 miles of driveway. Cost and battery life-cycle will be the only issue. On some cars the batts are estimated to last 300K or more so if this can handle 50K, that will reach the life most will give a SxS.
I wonder how the battery would handle adding aftermarket options like a winch, stereo, lightbar, etc.
Power wise just fine, better than a lead acid+alternator. What is does to range? If you have a 300w light bar, and 400w stereo at full that’ll be 0.7kwh usage on this approx 30kwh battery. So if you were camping with a full battery you could hypothetically run the light bar full time and stereo at max for 43 hours
There's a separate 12-volt battery located under the seat that all the accessories run off.
@@dirttraxtv the primary 30kwh battery then keeps the lead acid accessory battery juiced?
I already ordered one for my farm. Quiet, torque monster, no oil changes, and it makes you laugh every time you punch it. Plenty of range for my place. Plug it in at night, and I’ve got a full battery for the next day. Dig it.
You are the exact customer this machine targets 👍
@@dirttraxtv
Yup. I’ll carry an electric chainsaw in the back so I can pretend to be working while ramming around laughing. Thanks for posting!!
I’ll never buy an electric sxs it just doesn’t work for me. I sure hope if the industry does go all electric polaris will keep selling parts for my rzr.
Explain why it doesn't work for you. If they make an electric rzr with the only difference is one is battery powered where is the disadvantages in your opinion?
@@vaughnburrows Range! I go out on 200+ mile trips and the range of EV sxs just isn’t there. Also, when Polaris gives the range of the bigger battery units that’s perfect world scenario (no hills, light throttle, outside temp, etc).
@@vaughnburrowsbecause the entire ev industry is a total ploe to control how much you use your vehicle. its not hard to figure out bub
@@cactusanal9395 bahaha or maybe it's far superior technology in every way. But you can stick to your exploding chambers and conspiracy theories Einstein.
There are a ton of applications for this machine and its evident by it being completely sold out. It has been for quite some time now. Small to large farm will benefit from this machine. Many here use older golf carts from local golf courses to get around. Adding a cab and the HVAC (Northstar Edition) takes this to the next level. Starting our Gator to go down to the mail box (long driveway) for packages or run down to the the barn isn't always ideal. Our furthest pasture is 5mi away and the parents are the same distance. I do wonder about the charging end of this machine several years down the line
I'm the last person to root for electric autos but an electric SXS is a game changer for a small ranch or a farm. Way less maintenance costs and lightning fast when you need to haul a*s. Not to mention instant torque and quieter than an owl fart 😂
How many miles you think it would go with 600 lbs of corn in the back?
The same weight is not the issue at all, its wind resistance the faster you drive the less range you have. This happens gas SXS too.
It would be fine around the farm or worksite. But I often ride 75 to 100 miles. A couple of gallons of gas is lighter than a generator. Electric is good but not quite ready for prime time. Thanks, I always enjoy you videos.
Will it charge off a camp ground rv hook up?
That is how we charge ours when we trail ride.
I'd love to see this with a larger battery in the new XD chassis.
Electric sxs......no way. And when it's running low on juice you can plug it into an oak tree.
We charge ours at campgrounds near the trails and never have problem. Technical trail riding at 15 to 20 mph will yield 100 miles of range and 12 hours of riding. Most people bast bar to bar in 5 to 10 mile increments.
Maybe if I had a farm and used it for that however when I go ride for the weekend I'm out all day and night. What would be the range while night riding with both my light bars on, bluetooth music playing loud..not for recreation but you said it, has its place
If you have to reroute once in an electric vehicle, you’re f’d. Battery life and cold temps are a bad combo.
We have many creeks to cross on our trails. Can we drive through water?
Yes.
Not gonna lie, it sounds like a electric drill
What’s the charge time from empty, or even 25-30%? How much difference does 240 to 120 charging make? What was your experienced range? How much did that drop when hauling?
With a 240 it takes about 5 hours. With a 120 from empty as much as 20 hours. So an hour charge with a 240 will get you about 20 percent.
@@dirttraxtv thanks for the response! Definitely gonna want the 240 at the hunting cabin!
I go 30 miles on some rough trail to get to my staging site to then hike another half mile to mys tand. Theres no way this will make it to and from my stand. How fast will it charge on the 30amp cord? It probably wont do me mich hood in hunting, but it would be nice to have a rig for the ranch and charge it with my solar shed for free.
5 hours on a 240 and up to 20 hours on a 120.
You mention a 2 liter ? What machine are you referring to
Pro R?
Are they gonna have charging stations on the trails? Lol
Every couple miles.
You get gasoline from a tree?
@@dingusflingus I mean, I do. Don't know about you guys.
Plug in to growing potatoes.. charge time of 6.7 years
Electric as a viable option, yes. Will it replace gas, not a chance.
Where is your review of the new 2024 Polaris razor XP????
Coming soon!
“You need to discuss how y’all say “house” or figure it “out”
There will be a battery density revolution coming. When that happens electric motors will absolutely replace gas engines. That said, the generation of electric power will also need to change because the current electric generation capacity is not prepared. The wildcard is when the battery density revolution will happen.
Looks like the original 1000xp except for one downfall it's battery operated I don't care how much power it has or how quite this pricepoint it better be able to go on trails all day ery few people will use it strictly for work don't want any part of electric sxs or vehicle
Power density simply is not there and it's not going to be. Yes they have there place but it's a very small place.
What about propane? Burns cleaner than gas. Longer shelf life than gas.
Ranger XP Propane...
What’s the mileage with tracks on running across a lake in the winter? 10 miles is my guess 😂
Might make it to the other side. It's a gamble 🤷♂️
NO!
NO.....gas rules....
Drink some ❤
Not for me.
Electric is a joke
It works for your moms vibrators ❤ go run your truck in the garage
bahahah infinitely better in every way apart from range but it's a joke. I know who the joke is..
Electric golf carts been out for decades and we chose gas for a sxs
But lithium batteries and powerful motors haven't. Get educated.
@@CptAngelKGaming you going to educate me grandpa?
Commenting on a one year old comment. Your life must suck
Won’t be such a thing as atving. Have you read the United Nations goals for sustainability.
Offroad industry has plenty of lobbyists fighting its fight.
If the day comes that electric takes over the off road industry it'll be the day I quit off roading...this EV BS is ruining the car and truck industry and it'll ruin this industry if people don't wake up to this scam.
I've had an electric car for 5 years. It kicks ass! Faster and cheaper to run than my gas stuff. If that's ruining and scammed, I guess I'll be a sucker every day!😀
Yeah man technology is so horrible. Who wants much more powerful, quiet and efficient machines? Better to make a lot of noise and go nowhere while overheating some crap CVT gearbox. lol get a grip..