Okuma HAKAI battles Shimano Curados and Daiwa Tatulas!!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- At long last, I put the Okuma Hakai to the test vs the usual suspects in its price class, Curados and Tatulas!
The Okuma Hakai unboxing and casting impressions videos here
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Got a SLX DC XT a few months ago due to you and I couldn’t be happier. One of my favorite reels and honestly if a new scorpion doesn’t come out soon I’ll be picking up another!
Its my favorite current non BFS reel! Enjoy it!
Yeah.. SVS Infinity Brake is the winner, that's why I love my old Curado K-201 which still going very smooth after more than 4 years with me. Thanks for the casting arcade, thumbs up always to your videos 👍👍
I just bought an slx xt. Holy cow I love it. I love it as much as my 2017 Daiwa tatula sv.
I would like to see you up the weight to see how that varies distance with the spool weight….
For reels of that size I would like to see a 1/2 Oz cast tests as well, as this is more likely to be, what the average angler would cast on those reels.
@@peterpan7290 I just think lure inertia and spool weight surely would play off each other differently
thanks for the video... I just bought slx dc xt few days ago ordered direct from your recommended Japan website 👍
Recently bought a brand new Hakai for $130 from Fisherman's Source with free shipping.
That curado is GEM. Got intoruced to BFS years ago when I tired a buddy's Core 50 with a shallow spool.
It is a gem, to bad its looks dont match its performance lol
Indeed bro..i owned the new steez & antares but curado mgl 151xg always in my choice for long cast..
Shimanos are the best!!! That old 50e is so cool. I wish I had the money yesterday for 2 Curado 300es for 220 each. I love the 200k also.
The one that i wait the most...here come the hakai
Thanks for the great video! For the battle between the MGL vs the DC XT, considering that the numbers for the MGL were rather consistent and that there was one unusually low and inconsistent number (111’) for the DC XT, if you were to remove the 111’ the average would be almost 122’ versus the 121’ for the MGL. Soo…
But I was very surprised to see the casting difference between these two reels and the others being quite large. I have the SLX DC XT and this reel is incredible. I usually fish gravel pits from the bank and for distance is super important for me.
bank beaters are exactly why casting distance is very important! Enjoy the reel brother!
I still have 11 50 style reels( aldebaran mg, 50e, and xt1000) and 5 xt1500. I do have several new slx 70mgl reels a curado k and a scorpion mgl.
I have a tatula 80 and a tatula SV 70 and the brakes are the same you can interchange the side plates with the magnets and nothing changes.
The difference is the induction rotor on the SV spool and the SV has better bearings. The bearings on the 80 are kind of bad.
The stock 70 SV is almost as good as the 80 with a shallow light spool installed.
sounds like the Thailand factory got a bad batch of bearings
@@THEREELTEST just curious if you ever oiled the bearings on the 80? Mine quieted down a lot after I applied proper oil and grease to the reel. Pretty common for Daiwas to be dry from the factory.
Hola, tienes pensado probar el haibo arise? Gracias
What handle is that on your curado 50e? Great content.
Baixe o peso da isca e verás o podium se inverter ! Isca pesada para um carretel de pouca massa sempre terá desvantagem!
Saw a guy casting a hakai across the local pond last weekend wanted to try it out but looks like even the tatula 80 casts farther
Thanks - great info
What handle and drag star do you have on that Curado 50E ?
avail drag star and some old discontinued handle from years ago
I love the way you say Fanboy when you're one of theeee biggest Shimano Fanboys. And to correct you on something. FOR YOU… Shimano reels cast further. I have some Lew's, Quantum, Bass Pro and a Favorite Soleus that casts just as far as the best Shimano at a fraction of the price. I love Shimano, but too may of you guys talk them up like they're leaps and bounds better than anything out there, and that's only true when you're comparing to the entry-mid level reels. And if you know what you're doing you can swap out bearings for higher quality bearings and polish and clean up gears and make a decent performing reel perform at an elite level.
As for your "CONTROLLED" tests, you need to find a large warehouse where they allow you to cast reels inside without wind interference, which varies on every cast. Indoors you won't have that variable affecting casts.
@@OVSpr I would recommend trying a Zillion SV TW.
I got one and because of the recommendations and hype about the i-DC5 I bought a Scorpion DC to see if it really is that good. The zillion casts further and does not backlash at all. The scorpion does not cast as far, or when tying gives you backlashes. My lures have been chatter-, crank- and spinnerbaits from 5/8oz to 1oz.
YOU can buy all the reels, rods, line, camera equipment, rent the warehouse to run your CONTROLLED tests, film it, edit it and show all of us the results. Ill be waiting....
@@peterpan7290 where is your proof? My old discontinued $100 Casitas would probably beat my Zillion 1000 with SV boost.
@@THEREELTEST I can not say anything about the casitas as I do not own one nor have I ever. Just in case you didn't noticed...I have no tackle review channel. I just make my experience out there on the water. I therefore have no Video comparisons. *BUT* neither do you 😉
No front, but as I aldeady mentioned in the other post, the only thing you have proven is how these reels perform with the exact line, rod, lureweight and luretype that you have used. And there is nothing bad about it. There is no way to test all types of lures on different rods with different lines. Nobody is expecting that. But the respect and faith that we have in you, for not choosing a setup of rod, lure ect that benefits the Shimano reels the most, you have to give to us and our experiences.
You got all these bible quotes that teach equality and humbleness but it seems that you're demanding things from your audience you are unwilling to give.
..Just my opinion..
I love the okuma reel but i hate the handles anyone know what handles will go in it i seen some pics where some okuma hakai reels had flat handles anyone know about those
Why didn’t you put the curado 70 in the ring?
It’s not in the same price range as these. These were all around $200
@@cjsfishing1494 curado mgl70?
@@OVSpr the Curado 70 is $250
@@cjsfishing1494 bought it in August for less than 200.
@@OVSpr on Tackle Warehouse right now it’s $249.99
Difference between the curado 150 mgl and the curado k is just the addition of the spool from the scorpion mgl correct?
no, watch the Curado MGL 150 video for the details
Hi, my daiwa alpha 800 sv sounds just like your tatula 80 when casting. Mine sounded bad from the first use. I switched bearings with my kastking zephyr and still same noise. Was wondering if the noise is actually the spool bearing having some shaft play which causes it to be noisy when casting? I notice the zillion and shimano bfs has springs on the bearing spool which reduces the shaft play. Furthermore, roro also make spool bearings with rubber O rings on the outside. What's your take? Thanks!
I dont know, It seems to be that frame the Tatula 80 uses. My Gekkabijin is a noisy caster too. The Tatula SV casted smooth and quiet and it has no o rings or special bearing tech
I got a hakai that was obviously used I returned it and got a curado mgl 150 and it was the best move I could have made the curado mgl 150 is a way better reel
So which all reals do use the E50 frame?? Please a list would be awesome
There are several with the same body, but with different materials. Aluminum, magnesium and CI4+.
Aluminum framed with graphite handle sideplate:
- Curado 50E -10
- Chronarch 50E -10
- Scorpion XT1000 -10
- Brenious -12
Magnesium frame and magnesium handle sideplate:
- Aldebaran 50 Mg -09
- Core 50 Mg -09
- Aldebaran Bfs Xg -12
- Aldebaran Bfs Xg Limited -15
- Stefano 200 -12
- Stefano 200 XG -13
CI4+ frame and CI4+ handle sideplate:
- Stefano CI4+ 200 -12
Might have missed some
Core 50
Curado 50
Chronarch 50E
09 Aldebaran
Scorpion 1001XT
Brenious
Aldebaran BFS 2012
Aldebaran BFS Limited
Didn't read all the comments, but the Okuma Hakai is still $169.99 at DSG
If you were wanting to pick one up, now would be the time then
Owning 3x hakai and 1x 150 mgl and a few daiwas I'm surprised the hakai did not do better compared to the others... For some reason I still like my hakai better than my daiwas and shimano... That being said I hated the hakai with fuoro but love them with braid...
its a great reel even at the raised price
How about Haibo Arise?
I have the Gravity reels that use the same brakes
Useless test ... you would have to have mechanical robotic arm for the rod so the casting parameters/forces are always the same. It should be performed in the hall (no wind variable) also.
I guess that means youre mad LOL
You have to take In account that this man has absolutely no way of casting the same for every cast or reel .. no way possible he can cast the same trajectory, or at the same pressure on the rod for every cast in his tests, his test are truly inconclusive and biased.. if you watch him for long enough, you will see that he is a 100% Shimano fan and nothing is better than his Shimano’s. If you watch other people on TH-cam, everyone has an opinion about a fishing reel, this one or that one Shimano Daiwa, Abu Garcia, KastKing, Lews or any other brand you prefer.. You have to take this gentleman‘s reviews with a grain of salt. Although he portrays himself as an honest man and puts Bible verses at the beginning of all of his videos, he is still biased, and he perfers a Shimano over anything else in his arsenal, always has and as far as I can see he always will.. fishing reels, rods, or any other product is a personal preference if you honestly think for one minute that a reel can Out cast another reel based one guy casting in a park your sadly mistaken. 👎
So where are YOUR videos? Bias isnt a sin. All that nonsense you wrote just proves YOU ARE MAD lol
@@wczxdrtxsu4220 Probably because I know that fanboys like you WILL ALWAYS WATCH :)
I totally agree and personally feel his rod selection per lure is a bit off. However i love his channel and enjoy his opinions and reviews as well as reel knowledge. Therefore i rate channel very high.
It's not his fault that the Shimano reels outcast all other reels. You understand he buys all these reels right? Just in this video 3 major brands reels are compared to each other. I own a Metanium and it outcasts all my other reels. I'm not biased because I can acknowledge reality 🤌🏽💯
indeed. Bias isn't a sin. But you need make it clear: your reviews are biased. Actually I don't believe on biased reviews.
This is laughable No One is spending there hard earned cash on no okuma stuff period okuma has to give stuff out for free for hype let’s be reel bud
Don’t insult shimano or diawa like this okuma is more like piscufin kast king
Shows you haven’t used the Hakai or the Helios Sx
Whaaaaat??!?!?! Okuma has been making HIGH QUALITY reels for years! So much so professional big game fisherman outfit their setups with their reels in order to land fish that bring in literal thousands of dollars a piece. You need to stop reading your Daiwa and Shimano forums and wake up. You don't even know how to spell Daiwa for crying' outlaid! LMAO
I’m not talking deep sea fishing here SPUD 😂
Man I hate to say it but the fact that you're a bank fisherman really takes away from your reviews. Often times on this channel all that is focused on the is distance, I care way more about control than I do distance and I just don't hear enough about it here.
Im not worried about it
How sad is it being a Daiwa fanboy! 🤣
Not at all. 🤷♂️
As at least on the water my daiwas outcasts my shimanos every day. And in addition witch much less adjusting when switching lures.
@@peterpan7290 If you even really have any Shimanos(which I doubt), you obviously arent capable to reaching the limits of their performance. Its not that hard, you just seem to lack the mental capability to do it
@@THEREELTEST Are you serious?😂😂😂
If you'd like to I can make a short Video and show both the Zillion and Scorpion side by side just to prove you wrong.
Not the "menthal" ability when casting? You just proved yourself to be the "fanboy" you're not getting tired to critize the Daiwa guys to be.
I have not written that every Daiwa will outcast any Shimano reel in every situation. But for my setup wich is a megabass superorochi which I use for cranking and spinnerbaits with 1/2 - 1 1/4 Oz the Zillion outcasts the Scorpion. Not by much - but it is the ease - especially with spinnerbaits - that is unmatched by the scorpion. The Scorpion is set on PE Mode and Brake 2. The Zillion on 8 I think it was. Any lower on the Scorpion gives overrun.
Maybe it is because on the boat the wind is constantly coming from different directions, maybe it's just the type of lures or the combination with my rod. Whatever it is...when I try to match the casting distance of the Zillion with the Scorpion, I would have to go down in brakes and if I do so I may get one or two lucky casts without backlashes, but when actually fishing the hassle is simply not worth it. And you can not argue against that as it is a fact.
I really appreciate your tests and reviews but they are not scientific and can only be related to the rod, wind, lure weight and wind resistance of that lure, as well as maybe the type of line too that you have used in that test.
@@THEREELTEST since I have now watched your latest "Most desired Reels of Japan 2022" video I think i know where the hate against the zillion comes from.
Seems you have not liked it de-throning the matanium?
However your insult gets some weight when you adress the fisherman of whole Japan.
It seems that - according to your statement - the majority of japanese anglers is mentally not capable to throw shimano reels as well and this is why they voted the zillion in first place? 😉
Again, don't get me wrong, Shimano makes great reels. But there is no such thing as "the best reel". Each reel has its own strenghts and weaknesses and you may have discovered a constallation where the scorpion is ahead. But for me and the majority of japanese fisherman this constallation does not match the situation on the water, which is why we prefer the zillion.
@@peterpan7290 I recently bought the steez HLC , then immediately the zillion after because of little trouble with hlc below 12 break. Love the zillion - caught 11 bass last weekend lol. Love the tatula 400 for muskie of course. Love the shimano old round calcutta 300 CTE! .. Love my SS STEEL komodos ... now for my favorite : perhaps the 8.1 TATULA HRF SPECIAL 😮, 200$ Asian Portal
I think if you threw out the outlier cast, the DC would have won.