Everyone: I wish they still made simple, affordable, reliable sports cars with enough horsepower and not too much tech... oh and a manual gearbox is a must. Nissan: 370z Everyone: Eeeew, it’s old and simple and there’s not enough tech. Nissan: 🤦🏾♂️
The price hasn’t moved much, I had an ‘11. Yes I wish I still had it. In ‘11 I bought it with the sports package for 36. Still wish I had it and the room to keep it inside. Once you got used to rev match it was fantastic, I don’t understand why they didn’t like it. I did have to get used to it a bit and not fight the computer but it was a fun car in the mountains.
James Wuertele I love the rev match feature. I didn’t think I would because I used to heel toe my old Z4M.part of me feels guilty that I don’t miss the effort. I have a 370z and a B5S4. Two great cars right at the sweet spot of automotive evolution. The B5 is troublesome tho.
Nissan has heritage, but somehow couldn't remember it...and they chose their base model no options to sell it to the public instead of making it a sport package special. Nissan, the great company that forgot their greatness
The cool thing about these Z cars are that they are actually some of the last analog driving experiences you can have these days - Straight up NA engine, Manual gear box, RWD and go! Plain and Simple!
Nissan so rich that they treated the over manufacturing of the 370 like an annoying Spotify subscription they keep forgetting to cancel for the past 6 years
As with all Z's and many other Japanese sports cars, this car is not meant to be driven stock forever. Nissan intended to provide a solid platform for aftermarket development. They're one of the best manufacturers in my opinion because they've always made enthusiast cars with the good old japanese aftermarket community in mind. It's not supposed to be a luxury car or a super car. It's meant to be the foundation that you build your own dream car on.
Yes, you can go that route with good results if you want. Or, you can leave it stock or make minimal mods and just enjoy driving it as the great car that it is, especially when compared to most of the other overpriced crap out there today.
I bought my 370Z new in 2009. Honestly, it's been a great car. Haven't tracked it but it is a blast to drive on back roads, and as a daily driver, it's been nothing but reliable. A set a Michelin Pilot Sport 4s to replace the OEM tires, regular fluid changes, and that's been it for maintenance. Still on the original battery, which hasn't skipped a beat despite the fact that I don't drive the car in the winter and my garage is unheated. Try that in a Porsche...I've seen flat batteries in cars sitting in the showroom. Anyway, if you appreciate real wheel drive, naturally aspirated engines, hydraulic steering, a good manual transmission (funny how everyone from BMW to Porsche has adopted Nissan's rev match feature), and a supple and well balanced chassis, this is a car to recommend. Sure, the competition has upped its game in the last decade, but I have no regrets about my purchase. And to mix things up a bit, my other vehicle is an STi, which is equally fun, but a very different proposition. Two cars that have used the same formula for a long time, but still are engaging drives.
Sounds right. The reliability is beyond belief in real life over time. The Germans can't touch it. Those E90 of that era are nearly worthless with endless issues and leaks. And drive like crap. The Z still feels rigid and taught.
Even if it's 2022 and there are cars for cheaper and more technologically advanced 370z is still my dream car. Idc what anyone says I wanna own one of these someday.
@@duckway4733 I got one last August. 8,450 miles, 2013 Sport Package. Its gorgeous as hell and I love the way the 370 drives. You wont regret it. If I were you, I would get a Sport package or Nismo. And with the new Z coming out, the 370 will only get appreciated more and more
Hey Jack,! Great review man. Leaps and bounds ahead of the last one. You can tell you're feeling a lot more comfortable/relaxed and opening up the camera. It really shows. Keep up the good work man.
@@jackh7550 You're getting the hang of it. Your reviewing is already 10x better than most others out there, simply due to the fact that you're showing honesty, in typical SG fashion.
Perhaps its for the purpose of suiting the channel, but I noticed Jack having too many of Mark's mannerism, pauses, speech ticks and whatnot while he was reviewing the interior in particular. Once again, I know it may be due to him trying to emulate Mark for the channel, but I really didn't enjoy it. Just my .02
Jack, you're getting better with time like a fine wine. Glad you're keeping this channel alive! Best of luck to Mr. Goose himself, hopefully everything is all right.
@@jackh7550 Just be yourself. Throw in the deadpan humor like its nothing, of course, but you should be more like how YOU would review a car, and less like Mr. Goose himself. Stick to the general format that Mark has established (gotta keep that SavageGeese standard up) but be more natural. Also, during the driving portion, I would maybe cut down on the pauses between collecting thoughts and saying them, use editing to remove them if necessary. I know its not easy to say what you think of a car while driving it, so perhaps drive it off camera once, write the thoughts down, then say them as you drive it a second or third time while filming.
I have a 2019 370Z 6MT sports pkg with: Hotchkis anti-roll bars front and rear, braided stainless steel Teflon core brake lines, a Stillen Gen 3 long tube CAI, a Fast Intentions 2.5" TDX x-pipe dual exhaust and an EcuTek dyno tune done on a Dynojet chassis dyno at Specialty Z. The engine performance differences were: peak rwhp from 282 to 321 @ 7200 rpm and a uniform 15% increase in torque across the entire rev range. Because of the good breathing at high rpm, the peak horsepower remains nearly constant from its peak at 7200 rpm until the 7500 rpm redline. These modifications have turned an already good sports car into a significantly better performing car that also sounds better with its more authoritative sounding exhaust. Future upgrades planned are for an eventual total weight reduction of about 200 lbs, conversion from 19" wheels to 20" forged magnesium wheels, aluminum two piece brake rotor/hat assemblies and a rebalancing of the car with a set of HKS Hypermax R coilovers.
I think most of the commentators missed it...he's impersonating the normal guy, talking the way he does, using the same phrases, same body language, and he did a great job impersonating him.
Some input from a Z owner: -No car is perfect from the factory. -Aftermarket can be limited for some cars. For the Z, that is not so and tons of mod parts. You can truly make this thing a beast of a car if you're willing to learn how. -This car even in it's past generation has such enormous potential as a sports car platform from drag to drift to road course racing. -Most people change the wheels and tire combos anyway to eliminate said understeer although oversteer can be a bit violent in this car. Learn your car and you wont have an issue. -This car can be made to be frickin fast and my Z in its current stage handles like a dream. I've driven some exotics and was not impressed in comparison. -The sound can be tuned and changed with quality, keyword quality, exhaust parts. Don't slap cheap parts on this car and expect it to be amazing. -This car was designed with the enthusiast and tuner in mind. Basically, it's a blank canvas for people that like to tweak and modify their cars. There's nothing wrong with keeping it OEM, but you're doing the car injustice. -The Z platform is such a blast to drive on the track once you've made it your own by tuning engine, suspension, etc. to meet your needs for motorsport. I can go on but I'll leave everyone with this to ponder on. Best way to really get a feel for what this car is or what it can become is to go to a Z group car meet. You'll see a variety of Z's and possibly get a ride in one from naturally aspirated road course swiss army knife to twin turbo drag racing monsters. The sky is the limit with this platform. As for the 50th anniversary color combo, Nissan was definitely drinking that night or smoking the good stuff when drafting the designs. :/
I agree with everything you say. The only issue with this car is it's price tag. At 30k, it's quite steep, especially when you are going to spend a bunch more modding it. 25k would have made it much more attractive
I agreed with everything but the tuning part, the engine bay is so small it makes it impossible to use forced induction, not like I would go forced induction anyway, it can already make about 360hp FBO which is plenty for drifting
Shoulda tested at least the sport model with the lsd bigger wheels and bigger brakes. Reviewers test the loaded variants usually but this time they tested the bargain basement model. Hardly fair.
@@ea3414 Its about right though. Sports cares aren't cheap. Its difficult to make cheap since they don't sell that well. Its faster than a brz/86 which is like, around $25-27k right? its priced ok considering
@@RotaryChannel I wonder if it's because he liked it and was trying to find faults or if he didn't want to like it and somehow found it enjoyable. Almost like he was breaking character at times.
as a 370z owner myself i can agree with you that this car gets upset when hitting mid corner over a bump but reliably has been great stock form suspension is decent power delivery is great as well and snap over steer is there once u reach the limits but overrall its a good sports car old but a good old one dont regret getting one
I still love my 2014 midnight blue 6sp touring. It's still a thrill to drive and sounds amazing with an aftermarket exhaust. I plan on adding a boosted performance turbo kit in the near future to give it the power that it truly deserves.
mr2turbo12 you don’t want this car used. People milk and abuse them to no extend (especially young daddy’s money kids) and then sell whatever is left. New was the way to go for me in 2018.
Jack is coming along very quickly with his review quality! The difference between this and his last review is shocking. Great review and even greater progress!
I’m so glad I picked up a Red 2016 Nismo for $31k, I would never drop a dime on any other 370Z just from the simple fact that they do look very outdated now. But in my opinion the Nismo trim still has that wow factor. Just missing some newer technology but the driving experience, bumper to bumper performance and cosmetic upgrades are worth it.
Where has Turbowoski been??? Great review. For a NA engine that revs to 7500RPM, and it's a real sports car (two seats) and it's pretty cheap ($35K), I think it's a great car. I would probably buy a used Nismo version with ultra low miles (better seats, more HP, better looking, better wheels and body rigidity) for $10K less than new. They can be had for $35K with less than 5000 miles on them all day long.
... Problem is this is a $25k car, not a 35k one. You get a bachup cam and a 10yo interior and chassis and little has been done to the same vq engine even if it has 332hp and the 08/09s had a bit less. The engine and 6spd are keepers, the rest needs to go.
i own a 16 Z best thing about it, it's simplicity i dont want any gadgets, info panels, lane control, sensors., over rated, what's wrong with just an engine and a radio. I see maybe once a week another Z on the road, now ask yourself how many camaros, mustangs, civics, jeeps, chargers, challengers do you see, for me at every damn set of lights... same was true of the S2000 they were rare.
Raph V - while you’re doing your anti-technology rant, you may as well get rid of power windows and mirrors, remote door locks, and AC too. And don’t even bother trying hook up your Bluetooth b/c you won’t need a cell phone either right?? All you need is an engine and radio right?? And while the rest of the world moves forward with technology, you can enjoy your outdated Z.
@@ONI1013. it's not a techno rant, the car is over 10 y/o with no upgrades. i upgraded the interior myself for a few hundred bucks got in dash gps not the factory one, backup cam, 1.5k watt system, bluetoothm handsfree calling, i used to build car shows back in the 90s ealry 2ks. it was more about some people think it needs a refresh, i dont think so every car now everything is push buttons some dont even have a shift knob anymore theyre becoming a controller for a video game. technology not always best ask people to drive a stick shift and theyll say. "Do what!?"
@@ONI1013. you guys are not true car people. I have a 1986 Toyota Cressida wagon with a old-school JDM 3.0 inline six, coilover suspension, aftermarket panhard and 4 links in the rear, camber plates in the front and nice 16x8 wheels with sticky tires am fm tape radio but it has power everything and auto ac controls (not nearly as refined by today standards) the thing I love about the car is how old school the drive feels you feel connected to the car in everyway something modern cars cannot replicate
@@ONI1013. it's the 6mge engine which is the JDM and can make 200 to the wheels with simple mods which obviously is not shit by today standards but yeah and it is auto locks auto window auto mirror auto AC this was a luxury car
MisterX - Key word being this WAS a luxury car. Not anymore. But like I said, if being a “True car person” requires holding onto 40 year old car technology and rejecting any new technology. No thanks. I assume you also reject any new hypercar as well.
Nicely done Jack. You always had it in you, and it came through once you got comfortable and relaxed a little in front of the camera. Hope the hair implanting goes well for Mr Geese.
@@savagegeese toupe’s are better lol but at a older age I dunno , sometimes just gotta accept what it is , 2 of my friends had toupe’s for a few months , one was getting married he was shy about it lol
@@savagegeese I have plugs , I’m still bold but it’s nice to have a hairline shape so when I shave my head I still have that shadow line just looks smarter than a shiny never ending forehead . I might mix it in with one of those SMP hair tattoos to make it look like I still have follicles in the back . Given our age /skin and greys , Less is more sometimes ! < Just like my e46 m3 which I’m still waiting for a review on your channel , and I hope you don’t miss the detail of how the engine sits kind of behind the front drive shifts as opposed to directly on top , giving the car almost a mid engined feel :)
I just bought a 370Z that I'm building as a drift car and you weren't wrong about the rust issues! That new brace you mentioned on the rear subframe is rusty as hell on mine, to the point where I couldn't even get it off because every single bolt on it rounded off when I tried to undo them. Also on the 350 the entire rear subframe was aluminium (no rust) but on the 370 its steel and again mine is incredibly rusty. Probably not quite as much of an issue in some countries but here in the UK we have a lot of rain and we put salt on the roads during winter... a bad combination for poorly coated steel parts on the underside of a car. I did a video showing the work I've done on the car so far, and you can see the amount of rust there and how bad it is to work with. You can also see my 350Z is older and yet less rusty lol good job Nissan.
Yes this is why I always take advise about reliability with a big pinch of salt. According to the likes Scotty on you tube German cars are crap, yet you see loads of older ones about. It is rust that kills things here. I have an 04 bmw 3 series coupe with a little bubbling on the arches but my friends Lexus is200 of the same age is rusted at every rear seam. I lifted the rear boot floor and I was shocked to see so much rust.
Dan E Garner my 2000 323i has lived is whole life in the rust belt and after 19 years and 251k miles its only got a bit of rust at the lower wheel arch and one corner from the bumper. It’s doing way better then other cars.
See I don't have that issue on my 09 g37, there is a little bit of rust around the front steel subframe but that's it. I'll be taking a care of that this summer actually. Still 10 years old in Canada where we salt our roads and it's pretty clean.
Brian Mitchell Nissan is really only alive still because they know how to make inexpensive fairly attractive cars. Their major flaw is their reliability. They do not make their cvt transmissions and there have been thousands of failures with modern nissans. Practically the japanese Chrysler and everyone who knows anything about cars knows the chrysler group is very unreliable
STI, Type R, Miata, 86/BRZ & 370z are the last remaining proper Japanese sports cars with manuals and JDM spirit that you can still buy brand new! Can't go wrong with any choice ^__^
@@80s_Boombox_Collector How is a 300HP AWD car with a Chassis and handling comparable to a Porsche Boxter not considered a sports car? Because it has more than 2 doors?
Handling compared to a Boxster? No, no front-engined econobox will ever handle like a mid-engined Boxster. Totally different feel. Handling is not just about lateral G's and slalom times. As for what a sportscar is, a sportscar is built from the ground up for one purpose, to be a sportscar. They don't share a chassis with a sedan or crossover or econobox or any of that shit. Examples: Corvette, Miata, Boxster, Lotus, S2000, BRZ.
Cars like this are an "era" thing that people take for granted. As stated in the video when it's taken off the table and people realize you can't purchase simple and raw vehicles that are rewarding behind the wheel it'll be cool. 240Z is another interesting example, it's a low power vehicle by today's standards but so many enthusiasts want it (styling is different and very bare bones) show those same people a FT-86 as a current modern alternative and they'll complain it doesn't have enough power...
They'll complain about the 86 with good reason. I really wanted to like it, but for maybe $5k more I landed on the 370. Hard to argue with that, despite the fuel bill. I'm pretty excited about the 2.4 though
Bought my 2012 Z new and Iove it. Had at the track and it was fine. BTW mine is a 7 speed with the GTR paddle shifters and love those too. You and all the nay sayers can go pound dirt. The Z is the best classic, two seat, sports car for the money currently out there and that includes the new over-styled and ugly looking Supra. Are there faster cars out there? Yes, but the cost way more. If you have the money go buy a Z06 or 911 but if you don't have super big bucks go buy the Z. You'll be glad you did.
I think all of us who bought the 370z in 2009 will agree it was like winning the lottery. I speced mine with every feature and option I wanted for about 31k. I have babied this car as if it were an expensive exotic so today (August 2019) it has only 41k miles. But it has had zero maintenance issues and in my opinion, is still a very good looking car. For the last year, it has become my girlfriend's car and she loves it and wants nothing else. Two months ago I bought a CPO 2017 Porsche Carrera and of course I like it a lot more but it costs well over 3 times as much. I actually waited to see what Nissan would come out with this year, hoping the new Z would be a complete redesign that would raise the bar for an affordable and capable sports offering again. Had they done that, I almost definitely would have purchased. I still think the level of style, performance, handling, reliability and value offered here are unrivaled for the price. But just choose a solid color exterior. 🙂
It’s a straight forward sports car none of the crappy dashboards no info crap system and while I’m not a fan of the 370Z I like the simplicity of the car.
@@Fluttershy763 Why do you even come here to watch and read about it then? It isn't a comparison test, so there is no other car here that you could favor. I understand that you are entitled to your opinion, but I know most people don't watch videos and make comments about cars they have no interest in.
@@t.k.morris there are two reasons for that buddy. First of all I enjoy Doug and his presentations. And second of all it's fun to see how bad this car is. That's the same reason most people find it fun to watch bad or cheesy movies with thier friends. That's where you are wrong pal
@@itchyonion3559 because the car is outdated. Its too slow compared to the competition, also offers less features. Sports cars like Camaros, Mustangs and Challengers offer more bang for your buck with more style.
These are a solid built, 13-14 second car. Very fun to drive. Very affordable. Very reliable. Tons of tuner options. My Infiniti has the same 3.7 engine and I absolutely love it. Has a nice note. Has a nice grumble when you start it up.
This is one of the last GOOD Nissans other than the GT-R that was well engineered. Not built for a low monthly payment and attractive leases for people with 400 credit scores.
@@jackh7550 I think the only part that needs work is getting a sentence out without too much pauses. I thought the review itself was awesome, only slight pauses mid sentence kept taking be back a little.
Brian Chen thanks for the constructive criticism. Honestly find it difficult organizing my thoughts while trying to present them in a coherent fashion.
Jack H It will always be a work in progress. A year from now there will still be things that you want to improve upon. It’s just that your overall standard will have gone up. You’ve made a huge improvement since we first saw you; great job. Really!
A red roof with having some red reach onto the top of the front bumper to smooth it out and this would actually look pretty good. As it does now... Not so much. It looks very unfinished and thrown together
Looking at Jack struggling, I understand now that smooth talking with a wide vocabulary is what sets the leading youtubers apart. The Forgotten Weapons is a great example of it, with Ian's free command of the language (including the extemporaneous remarks). Mark had that too. But then again, he improved a lot. Old videos all were "solidity this, solidity that". He rarely overuses terms now.
Hey Jack, notice how you narrates much better while driving? I think you take the whole presenting in front of the camera too purposely if you know what I mean. Just forget about the whole filming business, just tell it to us as if you are speaking to your friends. Keep up the good work.
I personally like how it sounds. Not as rasp and aggressive " fun" as other sports cars, but its smoothness will not tire the ear as quickly, prolonging its listening pleasure and enjoyable driving experience.
The problem is that the Z hasn’t changed them and it’s 2019 now. But the Z is still the BEST budget car. 2003 350Z is the best bang for the buck if you’re looking for a sporty and good looking roadster. Hands down.
Generally no car is perfect . I like your deep thoughts but You should build your thoughts within the era we all live in . For me to buy brand new performance strong and two seater car like 370z without breaking the bank is great advantage, if you don’t like it, go and buy Ferrai or Lamborghini, thanks
I'm confused as to why Nissan hasn't put the vq30 twin turbo from the Infiniti red sport in the Z...2 years ago. It would transform the car and make it half relevant.
Idc what anyone says. I have my 2015 and love it. Super fast, good handling and couldn't ask for more. I love the 370z. These dudes nit pick and everything
I own a 2014 370Z and I must say it's the best in its category. Why? 1. *Low Maintenance Cost* (Got mine used with 45k miles and only needed an oil change so far.) 2. *Quality* - Reliable little Japanese sports car, would trust it over a Mustang, Camaro and for a good reason. I DAILY drive it. 3. *Handling* - Drives really well and wouldn't run over crowds. If you like the raw driving experience it is a joy to drive. 4. *Value* - Your muscle car depreciates like a banana turning brown under the sun. This doesn't. 5. *Beautiful Design* - Could be subjective but for me it is beautiful. It's a 2009 design and still looks better than a lot of cars out there. 6. *Reliability* - I have been daily driving it for a year now (2014 model) and the distance I've covered is a LOT. Never had any problems and it runs all the same. Unlike some cars there that feel different when they turn 5 years old or run 50k miles. I drive it HARD as well. Tip: Don't buy it new, buy it used like he said. There are bad attributes to it as well but I'll type it in if someone asks.
Keep telling yourself that bro... The 370z is good every Mustang since 2011 is lightyears ahead of it... Really the only reason to buy a 370z is that its a cheap vehicle to convert into a reliable track only car. Nissan didnt even try to modernize these cars...
History is repeating itself because the 300z ended with a "commemorative" edition at $50,000 in 1996, equal to $81,000+ in 2019! The original 300z started at $30,000.
cadsux At least the 90s 300zx twin turbo was easily modded to 400+ hp with intake/exhaust/fuel control. Not to mention it still looks better than the 350/370.
Sure, If you get an old 300z today. Heck you can mod a recent Z. But back in the 90s if one was to spend say an extra $10k to mod something that's equal to $81k now, then one should have spent it on something else.
Recently bought an 2020 370, came from a 2013 BRZ and I can definitely confirm the understeer stock. I think the biggest factor is the Bridgestone Potenzas. I think that's the ones. They are terrible tires for grip, but perform decent in the rain. I plan on upgrading to at least pilot sports after I burn through these as my BRZ ran extremely well with those. The oil temp is most definitely an issue. If you get a 370 I highly recommend you buy a Fast Intentions 34 row oil cooler. It's one of the best cooler kits on the market without spending a small fortune and FI's customer service is superb, awesome guys!
VtAneila Dude it’s a car that had 100,000 miles put onto it within a three year period, and probably had the absolute piss driven out of it the entire time. I would be surprised if there weren’t things breaking on it already. 370z’s generally don’t have many issues aside from the shit oil coolers that come stock.
Oh, please. Dont make this like the Smoking Tire where everyone complains about the main guy not being there, as if they arent involved and your getting content still. Frankly I am honored that the Goose has mentored someone to be on his level while dealing with issues that have sidelined him for a bit. Be grateful ya jerkjob.
The ending is frickin glorious. You know all the Z fans (self included) out there were a little perturbed about this review. LOL! Also, Jack you are very comfortable in front of the camera now. Huge difference and great job!
Thanks for your video ! I can't stand the look of those cars.. But one turned up at work as a trade in and on the hoist you could see it had a whole alloy rear chassis, someone had swapped it out and as a result wasn't able to pass a road worthy.. I think it went to tender.
I like the driving simplicity of this car. Hydraulic steering with decent feedback, naturally aspirated V6 around 330 HP, rear wheel drive. Decent handling, decent steering, no intrusive electronics to get in the way. It's a very old school sports car feel, raw and fun. I'm not a fan of the extreme electronics added to cars lately. It's tough, if not impossible, to find something like this on the market that's sold new, and with a warranty. Dated as is this is, I think that's where its charm lies. Old school fun car to drive, actually drive, not combat the electronic nannies.
Yeah these guys can be a bit contradictory sometimes. I think once you drive one of these you know exactly what you are getting. Great to hear the stereo gets good marks for sound though!
Great vid jack!!......I love z cars and I think it goes to show how many other people do to since Nissan has not changed it in 10 years .....but on the other hand .....yeah it needs a refresh.......but in this day and age it’s hard for a single car company to even have a sports car without sharing the platform with another company so I give Nissan a lot of respect for keeping it in the line up!!!
Great job to Jack for really keeping the format and style true to your vision. Great improvement over the course of the last few! I love (both you guys') videos...and I really love the dynamic between the two of you...looking forward to more!
For me this is such a special car because it's not a stupid modern car. I especially love the look of the interior, those retro inspired gauges are amazing. The entire interior looks amazing for me as someone who despises cars like the new Audis full of interior screens.
@@_baller I mean if you want Nissan to sell every car at a massive loss than sure... Not that it makes sense you can pick up earlier models of the 370z/g37 for about 12-13k already sooo.
I've loved the Z and have for a long time. I didn't know that 370Z was that much different from the 350Z. I would like to look at one again as it's still somewhat analog. (: Thank you gentleman.
Nissan forgot they even made this
*even Nissan forgot they made this
@@j.a.g.8689 I have a foot fetish
@@Almighty_cornholio tf
Just waiting to find a way to out a CVT in there...lol
@@j.a.g.8689 Grammar is horrible online. Im sick of it.
Everyone: I wish they still made simple, affordable, reliable sports cars with enough horsepower and not too much tech... oh and a manual gearbox is a must.
Nissan: 370z
Everyone: Eeeew, it’s old and simple and there’s not enough tech.
Nissan: 🤦🏾♂️
ND 350 > 370
The car itself is not the problem. It's the price they think they can charge for it is the problem.
The price hasn’t moved much, I had an ‘11. Yes I wish I still had it. In ‘11 I bought it with the sports package for 36. Still wish I had it and the room to keep it inside. Once you got used to rev match it was fantastic, I don’t understand why they didn’t like it. I did have to get used to it a bit and not fight the computer but it was a fun car in the mountains.
James Wuertele I love the rev match feature. I didn’t think I would because I used to heel toe my old Z4M.part of me feels guilty that I don’t miss the effort.
I have a 370z and a B5S4. Two great cars right at the sweet spot of automotive evolution. The B5 is troublesome tho.
Yeah make something better not a pile of shit from 2009. They kept this pile of shit indoors and brought it out in 2019 and called it 2019 model.
so what teenager made this Z vinyl in Forza? oh nissan did this?
I legit thought it was Forza
Nissan has heritage, but somehow couldn't remember it...and they chose their base model no options to sell it to the public instead of making it a sport package special. Nissan, the great company that forgot their greatness
Exactly what it looks like
Have you seen the mustang vinyl anniversary? Yeah that’s what I thought, a fucking ricer made it.
I think they got it from their old racing livery actually, I seem to remember it on one of their silhouette racers from the 80s, for instance.
The cool thing about these Z cars are that they are actually some of the last analog driving experiences you can have these days - Straight up NA engine, Manual gear box, RWD and go! Plain and Simple!
Thats the best part of the Z!
@@scott8238 The new Z will be twin turbo
4:07 Going ape on the steering column
Seriously wtf was that about?
Sometime. Sometime you need to get the feel about small adjustment. So you must man handle it XD
LMFAO
lmaooo i lost it
Nissan so rich that they treated the over manufacturing of the 370 like an annoying Spotify subscription they keep forgetting to cancel for the past 6 years
Mark AJ so you want stupid apple car play that breaks down every year and you want a car that drives you? Fucking normie,
Iketani Koichiro wtf are you talking about?
@@tony_5156 lol
@@iketanikoichiro3519 Bro you dumped mako and now 20 years later you're on youtube saying stuff that make 0 sense
@@cat-em3mj Sure ok normie piece of shit. Z is stil; the best. Reliable cars
"Mark is 5' tall and 105lbs."
Man, he is a whiz with those camera angles.
Lmao, always in pants = he got stilts
Who cares lol?
themagicubas it’s a joke
@@Quirky.Turtle69 No, he was totally serious. Shut up, you.
Woah woah woah...5'1"
Damn dude looked like he was gonna rip the steering wheel from the dash... 😂
Huh? Cuz he's big?
Lol I was thinking the same thing
Lol and look how he touches everything... looks like he’s having convulsions
Gave me anxiety.
That's their MO, you know. ;)
Jack is the jdm version of mark
Ironically enough, the JDM version of Mark likes something like the Hellcat Redeye a lot better than the Domestic Mark. xD
MozzaBurger lol and the jdm version is 1’ taller
Are they brothers or related? they're so similar. voices and mannerisms.
As with all Z's and many other Japanese sports cars, this car is not meant to be driven stock forever. Nissan intended to provide a solid platform for aftermarket development. They're one of the best manufacturers in my opinion because they've always made enthusiast cars with the good old japanese aftermarket community in mind. It's not supposed to be a luxury car or a super car. It's meant to be the foundation that you build your own dream car on.
Chad your comment, quite possibly, is the best, most intelligent comment ever. Thumbs up.
500 H.p. With stock internals all day long ,turbo or supercharged ...
Great opinion sir!
Chad Wicker II AMEN! Finally someone who speaks and understands Nissan 🙏
Yes, you can go that route with good results if you want. Or, you can leave it stock or make minimal mods and just enjoy driving it as the great car that it is, especially when compared to most of the other overpriced crap out there today.
The 50th Anniversary Jump The Shark edition is here. I predict collectors will see a HUGE appreciation in value within the next 300 years.
Lol i was thinking 305 but 300 works
It will rust out in 10.
That made me laugh out loud pretty hard, thank you.
370 years maybe.
@@Ethan7s 2007 HR 350Z With zero rust daily driven 160k miles and climbing :)
I bought my 370Z new in 2009. Honestly, it's been a great car. Haven't tracked it but it is a blast to drive on back roads, and as a daily driver, it's been nothing but reliable. A set a Michelin Pilot Sport 4s to replace the OEM tires, regular fluid changes, and that's been it for maintenance. Still on the original battery, which hasn't skipped a beat despite the fact that I don't drive the car in the winter and my garage is unheated. Try that in a Porsche...I've seen flat batteries in cars sitting in the showroom. Anyway, if you appreciate real wheel drive, naturally aspirated engines, hydraulic steering, a good manual transmission (funny how everyone from BMW to Porsche has adopted Nissan's rev match feature), and a supple and well balanced chassis, this is a car to recommend. Sure, the competition has upped its game in the last decade, but I have no regrets about my purchase. And to mix things up a bit, my other vehicle is an STi, which is equally fun, but a very different proposition. Two cars that have used the same formula for a long time, but still are engaging drives.
Sounds right. The reliability is beyond belief in real life over time. The Germans can't touch it. Those E90 of that era are nearly worthless with endless issues and leaks. And drive like crap. The Z still feels rigid and taught.
Even if it's 2022 and there are cars for cheaper and more technologically advanced 370z is still my dream car. Idc what anyone says I wanna own one of these someday.
@@duckway4733 I got one last August. 8,450 miles, 2013 Sport Package. Its gorgeous as hell and I love the way the 370 drives. You wont regret it. If I were you, I would get a Sport package or Nismo. And with the new Z coming out, the 370 will only get appreciated more and more
Hey Jack,!
Great review man. Leaps and bounds ahead of the last one. You can tell you're feeling a lot more comfortable/relaxed and opening up the camera. It really shows.
Keep up the good work man.
detaart thanks this is all still a huge work in progress for me. I find hosting nearly 1000x more difficult than cohosting.
@@jackh7550 You're getting the hang of it. Your reviewing is already 10x better than most others out there, simply due to the fact that you're showing honesty, in typical SG fashion.
I agree, great job Jack!
Perhaps its for the purpose of suiting the channel, but I noticed Jack having too many of Mark's mannerism, pauses, speech ticks and whatnot while he was reviewing the interior in particular. Once again, I know it may be due to him trying to emulate Mark for the channel, but I really didn't enjoy it. Just my .02
I love your contributions on the channel. I really respect your opinions and like to hear what you think! Keep em coming!
I'm a huge fan of this car, but this color combo looks like shit tbh
@Nissan370Z I have a brown 07 HR already. I'm okay with it
Jack, you're getting better with time like a fine wine. Glad you're keeping this channel alive!
Best of luck to Mr. Goose himself, hopefully everything is all right.
Tim Flint thanks Tim. It’s a struggle but I appreciate the support.
Came for this comment.
@@jackh7550 Just be yourself. Throw in the deadpan humor like its nothing, of course, but you should be more like how YOU would review a car, and less like Mr. Goose himself.
Stick to the general format that Mark has established (gotta keep that SavageGeese standard up) but be more natural. Also, during the driving portion, I would maybe cut down on the pauses between collecting thoughts and saying them, use editing to remove them if necessary. I know its not easy to say what you think of a car while driving it, so perhaps drive it off camera once, write the thoughts down, then say them as you drive it a second or third time while filming.
I have a 2019 370Z 6MT sports pkg with: Hotchkis anti-roll bars front and rear, braided stainless steel Teflon core brake lines, a Stillen Gen 3 long tube CAI, a Fast Intentions 2.5" TDX x-pipe dual exhaust and an EcuTek dyno tune done on a Dynojet chassis dyno at Specialty Z. The engine performance differences were: peak rwhp from 282 to 321 @ 7200 rpm and a uniform 15% increase in torque across the entire rev range. Because of the good breathing at high rpm, the peak horsepower remains nearly constant from its peak at 7200 rpm until the 7500 rpm redline.
These modifications have turned an already good sports car into a significantly better performing car that also sounds better with its more authoritative sounding exhaust. Future upgrades planned are for an eventual total weight reduction of about 200 lbs, conversion from 19" wheels to 20" forged magnesium wheels, aluminum two piece brake rotor/hat assemblies and a rebalancing of the car with a set of HKS Hypermax R coilovers.
I think most of the commentators missed it...he's impersonating the normal guy, talking the way he does, using the same phrases, same body language, and he did a great job impersonating him.
I noticed it, and thought they were brothers at one point, lol. Because he was acting just like him!
gray25xt it’s cause they are father and son
Some input from a Z owner:
-No car is perfect from the factory.
-Aftermarket can be limited for some cars. For the Z, that is not so and tons of mod parts. You can truly make this thing a beast of a car if you're willing to learn how.
-This car even in it's past generation has such enormous potential as a sports car platform from drag to drift to road course racing.
-Most people change the wheels and tire combos anyway to eliminate said understeer although oversteer can be a bit violent in this car. Learn your car and you wont have an issue.
-This car can be made to be frickin fast and my Z in its current stage handles like a dream. I've driven some exotics and was not impressed in comparison.
-The sound can be tuned and changed with quality, keyword quality, exhaust parts. Don't slap cheap parts on this car and expect it to be amazing.
-This car was designed with the enthusiast and tuner in mind. Basically, it's a blank canvas for people that like to tweak and modify their cars. There's nothing wrong with keeping it OEM, but you're doing the car injustice.
-The Z platform is such a blast to drive on the track once you've made it your own by tuning engine, suspension, etc. to meet your needs for motorsport.
I can go on but I'll leave everyone with this to ponder on. Best way to really get a feel for what this car is or what it can become is to go to a Z group car meet. You'll see a variety of Z's and possibly get a ride in one from naturally aspirated road course swiss army knife to twin turbo drag racing monsters. The sky is the limit with this platform.
As for the 50th anniversary color combo, Nissan was definitely drinking that night or smoking the good stuff when drafting the designs. :/
I agree with everything you say. The only issue with this car is it's price tag. At 30k, it's quite steep, especially when you are going to spend a bunch more modding it. 25k would have made it much more attractive
Well said my guy well said💯
I agreed with everything but the tuning part, the engine bay is so small it makes it impossible to use forced induction, not like I would go forced induction anyway, it can already make about 360hp FBO which is plenty for drifting
Shoulda tested at least the sport model with the lsd bigger wheels and bigger brakes. Reviewers test the loaded variants usually but this time they tested the bargain basement model. Hardly fair.
@@ea3414 Its about right though. Sports cares aren't cheap. Its difficult to make cheap since they don't sell that well. Its faster than a brz/86 which is like, around $25-27k right? its priced ok considering
That fence hop. 👌
brett heyer Every move a picture!
brett heyer YOU try hopping a fence so soon after gender reassignment surgery.
Prob most athletic activity he's done in 5 years.
He couldn't get over it so they cut the video
Take a drink every time he sighs deeply or says "despite"
Instructions unclear : woke up in a ditch with no memories whatsoever and my TH-cam app opened to this.
I know right, he sounds flabbergasted by how they got so close to making the Z great
Couldn't tell if he was taking a dump or doing a review.
🤣 this review was very inconsistent and back and forth with positives overlying negatives and vice versa.
@@RotaryChannel I wonder if it's because he liked it and was trying to find faults or if he didn't want to like it and somehow found it enjoyable. Almost like he was breaking character at times.
as a 370z owner myself i can agree with you that this car gets upset when hitting mid corner over a bump but reliably has been great stock form suspension is decent power delivery is great as well and snap over steer is there once u reach the limits but overrall its a good sports car old but a good old one dont regret getting one
Yeah I've held onto my 2011. Something about driving it I still enjoy
DEVLAD yeah I got a sport model 2017 for a steal when I got mine for 25 with only 1,215 miles on it 6spd as well
periods
I still love my 2014 midnight blue 6sp touring. It's still a thrill to drive and sounds amazing with an aftermarket exhaust. I plan on adding a boosted performance turbo kit in the near future to give it the power that it truly deserves.
At 3:10, there's rain on the car. I'm watching this while it's raining at my house. Impeccable planning by you guys. Seriously impressive.
You dont buy this car new. Pick up a used one for half off. Such a fun car to drive
You could say that about the BRZ too, and it's fun as well. Slower, but better-handling.
mr2turbo12 you don’t want this car used. People milk and abuse them to no extend (especially young daddy’s money kids) and then sell whatever is left. New was the way to go for me in 2018.
@@BubbalooXRS congrats on the purchase!
@@80s_Boombox_Collector Ngl, but anything slow can handle well...
Buying one used is perfectly fine, I bought a used 2015 370z and has not been a problem at all for me.
Savagegeese and Throttle House, the two best car reviewers on TH-cam!!
Jack is coming along very quickly with his review quality! The difference between this and his last review is shocking. Great review and even greater progress!
FUNNY CONSIDERING HE WAS IMPERSONATING MR GOOSE
there's no difference
I’m so glad I picked up a Red 2016 Nismo for $31k, I would never drop a dime on any other 370Z just from the simple fact that they do look very outdated now. But in my opinion the Nismo trim still has that wow factor. Just missing some newer technology but the driving experience, bumper to bumper performance and cosmetic upgrades are worth it.
Where has Turbowoski been???
Great review. For a NA engine that revs to 7500RPM, and it's a real sports car (two seats) and it's pretty cheap ($35K), I think it's a great car. I would probably buy a used Nismo version with ultra low miles (better seats, more HP, better looking, better wheels and body rigidity) for $10K less than new. They can be had for $35K with less than 5000 miles on them all day long.
I have a feeling Turbowski and Mark broke up.
elton john doubt it. He goes on hiatus’ fairly often. He’s probably just busy with life as well.
Mark outsources his job to Asian Turbowski.
... Problem is this is a $25k car, not a 35k one. You get a bachup cam and a 10yo interior and chassis and little has been done to the same vq engine even if it has 332hp and the 08/09s had a bit less. The engine and 6spd are keepers, the rest needs to go.
they divorced and Mark is court ruled to pay alimony
When Nissan Executive said they didn't know these were still being made, I laughed for about an hour.
Well we didnt either hahahaha. When i was a kid in the 90s nissans were good cars. Now the quality is just not there.
when was that said?
@@joshp2542 thier sedans with cvt are some of least reliable transmissions ever made
Not a bad Mark impersonation. "Despite not having a digital readout I still know how fast I'm going." lmao
Best part!
Came here to say just that. The Mark impersonation is spot on lol!
Who is Mark?
69 likes. I ain't touching this... But here, have a comment !
Excusegeese at his finest
i own a 16 Z best thing about it, it's simplicity i dont want any gadgets, info panels, lane control, sensors., over rated, what's wrong with just an engine and a radio. I see maybe once a week another Z on the road, now ask yourself how many camaros, mustangs, civics, jeeps, chargers, challengers do you see, for me at every damn set of lights... same was true of the S2000 they were rare.
Raph V - while you’re doing your anti-technology rant, you may as well get rid of power windows and mirrors, remote door locks, and AC too. And don’t even bother trying hook up your Bluetooth b/c you won’t need a cell phone either right?? All you need is an engine and radio right?? And while the rest of the world moves forward with technology, you can enjoy your outdated Z.
@@ONI1013. it's not a techno rant, the car is over 10 y/o with no upgrades. i upgraded the interior myself for a few hundred bucks got in dash gps not the factory one, backup cam, 1.5k watt system, bluetoothm handsfree calling, i used to build car shows back in the 90s ealry 2ks. it was more about some people think it needs a refresh, i dont think so every car now everything is push buttons some dont even have a shift knob anymore theyre becoming a controller for a video game. technology not always best ask people to drive a stick shift and theyll say. "Do what!?"
@@ONI1013. you guys are not true car people. I have a 1986 Toyota Cressida wagon with a old-school JDM 3.0 inline six, coilover suspension, aftermarket panhard and 4 links in the rear, camber plates in the front and nice 16x8 wheels with sticky tires am fm tape radio but it has power everything and auto ac controls (not nearly as refined by today standards) the thing I love about the car is how old school the drive feels you feel connected to the car in everyway something modern cars cannot replicate
@@ONI1013. it's the 6mge engine which is the JDM and can make 200 to the wheels with simple mods which obviously is not shit by today standards but yeah and it is auto locks auto window auto mirror auto AC this was a luxury car
MisterX - Key word being this WAS a luxury car. Not anymore. But like I said, if being a “True car person” requires holding onto 40 year old car technology and rejecting any new technology. No thanks. I assume you also reject any new hypercar as well.
Nicely done Jack. You always had it in you, and it came through once you got comfortable and relaxed a little in front of the camera.
Hope the hair implanting goes well for Mr Geese.
Plugs are serious business
@@savagegeese toupe’s are better lol but at a older age I dunno , sometimes just gotta accept what it is , 2 of my friends had toupe’s for a few months , one was getting married he was shy about it lol
@@abr5819 My current toupe was imported from Thailand, shaved 3 years off my looks.
@@savagegeese I have plugs , I’m still bold but it’s nice to have a hairline shape so when I shave my head I still have that shadow line just looks smarter than a shiny never ending forehead . I might mix it in with one of those SMP hair tattoos to make it look like I still have follicles in the back . Given our age /skin and greys , Less is more sometimes ! < Just like my e46 m3 which I’m still waiting for a review on your channel , and I hope you don’t miss the detail of how the engine sits kind of behind the front drive shifts as opposed to directly on top , giving the car almost a mid engined feel :)
Jack, you're doing so well! Keep up the good work!
I just bought a 370Z that I'm building as a drift car and you weren't wrong about the rust issues! That new brace you mentioned on the rear subframe is rusty as hell on mine, to the point where I couldn't even get it off because every single bolt on it rounded off when I tried to undo them.
Also on the 350 the entire rear subframe was aluminium (no rust) but on the 370 its steel and again mine is incredibly rusty. Probably not quite as much of an issue in some countries but here in the UK we have a lot of rain and we put salt on the roads during winter... a bad combination for poorly coated steel parts on the underside of a car.
I did a video showing the work I've done on the car so far, and you can see the amount of rust there and how bad it is to work with. You can also see my 350Z is older and yet less rusty lol good job Nissan.
Yes this is why I always take advise about reliability with a big pinch of salt. According to the likes Scotty on you tube German cars are crap, yet you see loads of older ones about. It is rust that kills things here. I have an 04 bmw 3 series coupe with a little bubbling on the arches but my friends Lexus is200 of the same age is rusted at every rear seam. I lifted the rear boot floor and I was shocked to see so much rust.
Dan E Garner my 2000 323i has lived is whole life in the rust belt and after 19 years and 251k miles its only got a bit of rust at the lower wheel arch and one corner from the bumper. It’s doing way better then other cars.
Nissan being the cheapskate that they are lol.
See I don't have that issue on my 09 g37, there is a little bit of rust around the front steel subframe but that's it.
I'll be taking a care of that this summer actually. Still 10 years old in Canada where we salt our roads and it's pretty clean.
Start coating it with fluid film it works, if you can get it
good luck Mark with dealing with your issues. Do not hesitate to reach out for help. All problems can be fixed. Cheers
Nissan isn't a car i would consider anymore. Huffy has better luck getting my business.
Haha
Elaborate.
I would absolutely consider the new Altima. One of the best looking sedans on sale today, and a great commuter. Other than that....umm
Brian
Mitchell
Nissan is really only alive still because they know how to make inexpensive fairly attractive cars.
Their major flaw is their reliability. They do not make their cvt transmissions and there have been thousands of failures with modern nissans. Practically the japanese Chrysler and everyone who knows anything about cars knows the chrysler group is very unreliable
Uhhhmmm
GTR?
I'm 5'7" and the 370Z fits me just fine. I also don't care whether or not taller people are comfortable in my car.
STI, Type R, Miata, 86/BRZ & 370z are the last remaining proper Japanese sports cars with manuals and JDM spirit that you can still buy brand new! Can't go wrong with any choice ^__^
Don't forget the acura rsx type s
If you call an STI or Type R a sportscar, lol
@@lujr2225 He said that you can buy brand new. What dealer is selling a brand new Acura RSX Type S? I will buy one right now!
@@80s_Boombox_Collector How is a 300HP AWD car with a Chassis and handling comparable to a Porsche Boxter not considered a sports car? Because it has more than 2 doors?
Handling compared to a Boxster? No, no front-engined econobox will ever handle like a mid-engined Boxster. Totally different feel. Handling is not just about lateral G's and slalom times. As for what a sportscar is, a sportscar is built from the ground up for one purpose, to be a sportscar. They don't share a chassis with a sedan or crossover or econobox or any of that shit. Examples: Corvette, Miata, Boxster, Lotus, S2000, BRZ.
I’m extremely happy that I am the first owner of a new 2019 370Z (manual)
I would rather drive old school, outdated 370Z then a focus RS or ST or something like that
This thing still has soul in it!
Cars like this are an "era" thing that people take for granted. As stated in the video when it's taken off the table and people realize you can't purchase simple and raw vehicles that are rewarding behind the wheel it'll be cool. 240Z is another interesting example, it's a low power vehicle by today's standards but so many enthusiasts want it (styling is different and very bare bones) show those same people a FT-86 as a current modern alternative and they'll complain it doesn't have enough power...
They'll complain about the 86 with good reason. I really wanted to like it, but for maybe $5k more I landed on the 370. Hard to argue with that, despite the fuel bill. I'm pretty excited about the 2.4 though
Bought my 2012 Z new and Iove it. Had at the track and it was fine. BTW mine is a 7 speed with the GTR paddle shifters and love those too. You and all the nay sayers can go pound dirt. The Z is the best classic, two seat, sports car for the money currently out there and that includes the new over-styled and ugly looking Supra. Are there faster cars out there? Yes, but the cost way more. If you have the money go buy a Z06 or 911 but if you don't have super big bucks go buy the Z. You'll be glad you did.
I think all of us who bought the 370z in 2009 will agree it was like winning the lottery. I speced mine with every feature and option I wanted for about 31k. I have babied this car as if it were an expensive exotic so today (August 2019) it has only 41k miles. But it has had zero maintenance issues and in my opinion, is still a very good looking car. For the last year, it has become my girlfriend's car and she loves it and wants nothing else. Two months ago I bought a CPO 2017 Porsche Carrera and of course I like it a lot more but it costs well over 3 times as much. I actually waited to see what Nissan would come out with this year, hoping the new Z would be a complete redesign that would raise the bar for an affordable and capable sports offering again. Had they done that, I almost definitely would have purchased. I still think the level of style, performance, handling, reliability and value offered here are unrivaled for the price. But just choose a solid color exterior. 🙂
It’s a straight forward sports car none of the crappy dashboards no info crap system and while I’m not a fan of the 370Z I like the simplicity of the car.
The car sucks. They dare sell it at an unreasonable high price and it doesn't compete today
@@Fluttershy763 Why do you even come here to watch and read about it then? It isn't a comparison test, so there is no other car here that you could favor. I understand that you are entitled to your opinion, but I know most people don't watch videos and make comments about cars they have no interest in.
@@t.k.morris there are two reasons for that buddy. First of all I enjoy Doug and his presentations. And second of all it's fun to see how bad this car is. That's the same reason most people find it fun to watch bad or cheesy movies with thier friends. That's where you are wrong pal
@@Fluttershy763 a base 370z cost 30000, how is that unreasonable high price?
@@itchyonion3559 because the car is outdated. Its too slow compared to the competition, also offers less features. Sports cars like Camaros, Mustangs and Challengers offer more bang for your buck with more style.
These are a solid built, 13-14 second car. Very fun to drive. Very affordable. Very reliable. Tons of tuner options.
My Infiniti has the same 3.7 engine and I absolutely love it. Has a nice note. Has a nice grumble when you start it up.
This is one of the last GOOD Nissans other than the GT-R that was well engineered. Not built for a low monthly payment and attractive leases for people with 400 credit scores.
CVT
Those two are the best car reviewers. Personally, I love the Z. I guess I'm getting old too.
Dramatically improved review, well done!
Toyo Masauce thanks it is still a work in progress though.
@@jackh7550 I think the only part that needs work is getting a sentence out without too much pauses. I thought the review itself was awesome, only slight pauses mid sentence kept taking be back a little.
Brian Chen thanks for the constructive criticism. Honestly find it difficult organizing my thoughts while trying to present them in a coherent fashion.
Jack H honestly jack you're almost there. Just need a bit more practice to feel completely fluent. Keep up the good work!!
Jack H It will always be a work in progress. A year from now there will still be things that you want to improve upon. It’s just that your overall standard will have gone up. You’ve made a huge improvement since we first saw you; great job. Really!
Newer doesn't mean better. I would rather buy something that has been on the market for 10 years because you know it's going to be solid.
Thanks for the effort Jack! This is a huge improvement. Keep at it!
"360Z"?...That's GOLD, Jerry!!
Was that a Doug Demauro dig at the beginning? Lol
Wouldn't say it was a dig as such
Yep. Low-res quality. Quirks and features. The worst.
@@thrillhouse8787 Doug is the best ez
A red roof with having some red reach onto the top of the front bumper to smooth it out and this would actually look pretty good. As it does now... Not so much. It looks very unfinished and thrown together
I wish Nissan would have picked a good car to not make any changes to for 17 years. Like the first gen Sentra SE-r or 240 SX.
Dude if the 240SX was still being made today, people would massively crap on the car for the N/A 2.4l that makes less than 200HP!
The sentra ser and 240sx were MASSIVE pieces of shit are u kidding me?!?!?
The 370z despite all its faults is still an awesome car to drive
I've owned multiple nissan 240sxs back in the early 2000s loved every single one of them, wish I still had one.
Looking at Jack struggling, I understand now that smooth talking with a wide vocabulary is what sets the leading youtubers apart. The Forgotten Weapons is a great example of it, with Ian's free command of the language (including the extemporaneous remarks). Mark had that too. But then again, he improved a lot. Old videos all were "solidity this, solidity that". He rarely overuses terms now.
Hey Jack, notice how you narrates much better while driving? I think you take the whole presenting in front of the camera too purposely if you know what I mean. Just forget about the whole filming business, just tell it to us as if you are speaking to your friends. Keep up the good work.
Am I the only one that feels like that stripe should be on a Dodge?
Sorry to hear about Mark. Hope everything works out for him.
westgram what happened?
He hasn’t said. I’m going to guess parents health issues since he’s at the right age.
UrbExLA herpes
I'm guessing he's being sued.
Justin sex change, we'll see Michelle back doing reviews soon
I personally like how it sounds. Not as rasp and aggressive " fun" as other sports cars, but its smoothness will not tire the ear as quickly, prolonging its listening pleasure and enjoyable driving experience.
My God that thing looks atrocious. What the hell is Nissan thinking?
They weren't thinking
I don't know why, but I love the looks.
They gave up on the Z years ago lmao
looks wayyyy better than the Z33 before it ngl
The stripes are literally just a decal even the logo is a decal.
dude this car still in 2022 turns heads..
and its a better looking car
and a better bang for the buck over the 2023 model .
The reason the mismatched body panels don't work is you so often see Nissan's with that already. Junkyard nissans are everywhere
This reviewer has such a way with words when describing the car in all its aspects, I really enjoy it. He conveys his message so much better than most
Just update the interior Nissan. 30 grand new for one of these is nuts.
Come to the Netherlands, here it is €110.000,- euros....
So $30.000 isn't that much.
Just so you know €110.000,- is $123.000,-
Bob Herps Jesus Christ! What’s the car culture like there? Does cost of living balance out so car ownership is affordable?
This car used to start in the 40s. Dropping the starting price to 30 thousand is already a huge price drop.
@@anderson8383 they are trillionaires
I absolutely love the way your videos are formatted, thank you savagegeese.
I bought my 2017 6 speed sport for 24k with LOW miles. Its been a great car, especially with an exhaust upgrade.
Is there an exhaust that improves the sound but doesn't increase the noise?
@@80s_Boombox_Collector rev9 and autodynasty
The problem is that the Z hasn’t changed them and it’s 2019 now. But the Z is still the BEST budget car. 2003 350Z is the best bang for the buck if you’re looking for a sporty and good looking roadster. Hands down.
The paint job makes it look like a US Navy trainer jet (T-45 Goshawk, T-2C Buckeye)
Generally no car is perfect . I like your deep thoughts but You should build your thoughts within the era we all live in . For me to buy brand new performance strong and two seater car like 370z without breaking the bank is great advantage, if you don’t like it, go and buy Ferrai or Lamborghini, thanks
I'm confused as to why Nissan hasn't put the vq30 twin turbo from the Infiniti red sport in the Z...2 years ago. It would transform the car and make it half relevant.
Best review channel out there. Keep up the good work boys 👍
Tires have the effect on the puddy feeling. Need sport 4s
Idc what anyone says. I have my 2015 and love it. Super fast, good handling and couldn't ask for more. I love the 370z. These dudes nit pick and everything
time for a new Z Nissan and please don’t let it die
I would love to see them unveil a new Z and get everything right that the new Supra got wrong.
P Jay 2020 July now, and the new Z has already been featured in Nissan’s concept video. They’re serious about announcing the next gen.
just when i thought the cinematography in this channel couldnt get any better you make this review. so good!
Would be nice if Nissan made a new Z to compete with the New BMW/Supra.
with the engine thats in the q50
Would be funny if BMW made a new Z to compete with the BMW/Supra.
The new supra is 100k a nissan gtr is 120k. That's the new comparison. Gtr is better
@@dk7541 it's 50k were are u getting 100k from?
@@dk7541 What dealer is putting that massive markup on that car!? Report those bastards!
I own a 2014 370Z and I must say it's the best in its category. Why?
1. *Low Maintenance Cost* (Got mine used with 45k miles and only needed an oil change so far.)
2. *Quality* - Reliable little Japanese sports car, would trust it over a Mustang, Camaro and for a good reason. I DAILY drive it.
3. *Handling* - Drives really well and wouldn't run over crowds. If you like the raw driving experience it is a joy to drive.
4. *Value* - Your muscle car depreciates like a banana turning brown under the sun. This doesn't.
5. *Beautiful Design* - Could be subjective but for me it is beautiful. It's a 2009 design and still looks better than a lot of cars out there.
6. *Reliability* - I have been daily driving it for a year now (2014 model) and the distance I've covered is a LOT. Never had any problems and it runs all the same. Unlike some cars there that feel different when they turn 5 years old or run 50k miles. I drive it HARD as well.
Tip: Don't buy it new, buy it used like he said.
There are bad attributes to it as well but I'll type it in if someone asks.
Keep telling yourself that bro... The 370z is good every Mustang since 2011 is lightyears ahead of it...
Really the only reason to buy a 370z is that its a cheap vehicle to convert into a reliable track only car. Nissan didnt even try to modernize these cars...
History is repeating itself because the 300z ended with a "commemorative" edition at $50,000 in 1996, equal to $81,000+ in 2019! The original 300z started at $30,000.
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At least the 90s 300zx twin turbo was easily modded to 400+ hp with intake/exhaust/fuel control. Not to mention it still looks better than the 350/370.
Sure, If you get an old 300z today. Heck you can mod a recent Z. But back in the 90s if one was to spend say an extra $10k to mod something that's equal to $81k now, then one should have spent it on something else.
this channel is massively underrated. I watch every review.
Excellent review and conclusions. It’ll be good to see you unwind as you pick up more experience. Good luck to you.
Recently bought an 2020 370, came from a 2013 BRZ and I can definitely confirm the understeer stock. I think the biggest factor is the Bridgestone Potenzas. I think that's the ones. They are terrible tires for grip, but perform decent in the rain. I plan on upgrading to at least pilot sports after I burn through these as my BRZ ran extremely well with those. The oil temp is most definitely an issue. If you get a 370 I highly recommend you buy a Fast Intentions 34 row oil cooler. It's one of the best cooler kits on the market without spending a small fortune and FI's customer service is superb, awesome guys!
Nice video, Jack! You've really added to the premium-ness of the SG brand 😉I've been kinda MIA lately..hope Mark is alright.
Some of the best and most detailed reviews out there 👍
This is a $35k 2010 roadster.
Got a buddy that bought a used 2014 370z with 105k miles back in 2017. Dons wholesale baby he paid 22k lmao.
@@VtAneila bol got ripped
VtAneila that’s a terrible deal
@@VtAneila bruh that's a terrible deal
VtAneila Dude it’s a car that had 100,000 miles put onto it within a three year period, and probably had the absolute piss driven out of it the entire time. I would be surprised if there weren’t things breaking on it already. 370z’s generally don’t have many issues aside from the shit oil coolers that come stock.
Oh wow this was a major improvement from the last one. Nice job Jack!
I had a 35th anniversary 350."Z Rev up vq35de. I miss that car.
Really liking the car shots in the urban area! Great job guys.
I like jack, don’t get me wrong but I miss you Mark. Hopefully your personal issues get resolved because we’re missing you out here!
Oh, please. Dont make this like the Smoking Tire where everyone complains about the main guy not being there, as if they arent involved and your getting content still.
Frankly I am honored that the Goose has mentored someone to be on his level while dealing with issues that have sidelined him for a bit.
Be grateful ya jerkjob.
The ending is frickin glorious. You know all the Z fans (self included) out there were a little perturbed about this review. LOL! Also, Jack you are very comfortable in front of the camera now. Huge difference and great job!
Thanks for your video !
I can't stand the look of those cars.. But one turned up at work as a trade in and on the hoist you could see it had a whole alloy rear chassis, someone had swapped it out and as a result wasn't able to pass a road worthy.. I think it went to tender.
Is this in Japan? Your inspections are too strict.
I like the driving simplicity of this car. Hydraulic steering with decent feedback, naturally aspirated V6 around 330 HP, rear wheel drive. Decent handling, decent steering, no intrusive electronics to get in the way. It's a very old school sports car feel, raw and fun.
I'm not a fan of the extreme electronics added to cars lately. It's tough, if not impossible, to find something like this on the market that's sold new, and with a warranty. Dated as is this is, I think that's where its charm lies. Old school fun car to drive, actually drive, not combat the electronic nannies.
What I got from this review is: "Don't buy this great car, the steering feel is terrible but the car feels very connected."
Yeah these guys can be a bit contradictory sometimes. I think once you drive one of these you know exactly what you are getting. Great to hear the stereo gets good marks for sound though!
Great vid jack!!......I love z cars and I think it goes to show how many other people do to since Nissan has not changed it in 10 years
.....but on the other hand .....yeah it needs a refresh.......but in this day and age it’s hard for a single car company to even have a sports car without sharing the platform with another company so I give Nissan a lot of respect for keeping it in the line up!!!
This car's livery makes me sigh aggressively mid-statement just like Jack.
You can fit some really wide tires under these, which make a massive difference with handling.
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I like the idea of a simplistic interior with less electronics that could break and then cost an arm and a leg to replace.
Great job to Jack for really keeping the format and style true to your vision. Great improvement over the course of the last few! I love (both you guys') videos...and I really love the dynamic between the two of you...looking forward to more!
Im 6' tall 150 lbs and i dont have a problem driving my Z.
I was thinking about purchasing a used one. How far back do you think I should go ?
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For me this is such a special car because it's not a stupid modern car. I especially love the look of the interior, those retro inspired gauges are amazing. The entire interior looks amazing for me as someone who despises cars like the new Audis full of interior screens.
Drop about $6k off the price and it would be more reasonable.
Yeah Nissan already does that, they negotiate all day on those cars.
Or you can buy one 1-2 years old and pocket about 10-12k.
6k? Lol.... Why not make it 20k
@@_baller Id settle for 22k to be realistic.
@@_baller I mean if you want Nissan to sell every car at a massive loss than sure...
Not that it makes sense you can pick up earlier models of the 370z/g37 for about 12-13k already sooo.
I've loved the Z and have for a long time. I didn't know that 370Z was that much different from the 350Z. I would like to look at one again as it's still somewhat analog. (: Thank you gentleman.