2020 Toyota Supra Review | Judgement Day
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- We review the new 2020 Toyota Supra. This collaboration with BMW made the new Supra possible. We discuss the technical, performance and practical side of this Toyota project. The Supra is being lumped in with same cars such as Camaro SS1LE. Mustang GT and GT350 along with the Porsche, There is always good and bad with cars and the Supra is no different.
Index
Intro 00:00 - 00:55
Shope 00:55 - 7:57 In the Shoppe
interior 7:57 - 12:35
Driving 12:46 - 21:48
Final 21:48 - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
I believe I said it was twin turbo, just ignore that because my head was in my ass.
Rad
I just want a Mk3 supra turbo, you should review one of those haha
I forgive you. As long as you save some room for me.
This Supra is a BMW 135i N55 that costs 6 times as much. If you get MSRP
I just kept hearing farts in the opening of the video are you sure it doesn't have twin turbo?
Hands down still the best car reviewer out there. I bought a RCF because of savagegeese
Lol, I'm gonna buy whatever I want despite SavageGeese.
I'm stubborn and go against his recommendations, probably because I want to experience for myself what my choice brings.
Thomas Tran how are you enjoying it?
Agreed. I have an RCF with carbon/TVD in Molten Pearl and Savage Geese' review was the only honest and properly detailed review that swayed my decision.
qxANGELxp So how is that Ford Ranger treating you?
@@livegoodeathealthy5049 Who Savage Geese? No, he is an enthusiast who races on the track. He has owned E92 M3, S2000 etc. and tracked them. He absolutely hated the ISF. He is not a Toyota fanboi at all. He has very high level of technical knowledge about chassis, suspension, engines etc. He talks objectively rather than subjectively.
Every other car review channel --
*"It's just a BMW. It's hard to get in and out. Fake sounds in cabin. It's just a BMW. It's unreliable. IT DOESN'T LOOK like the concept! It's just a Z4" etc. etc.*
This channel actually explains to you why the businesses decision was made with BMW and the engineering factor behind each and every aspect of the car instead of leaving it as an open ended personal complaint. I hate how other channels do that!!!
Best review channel PERIOD.
"It's just a BMW. It's hard to get in and out. Fake sounds in cabin. It's just a BMW. It's unreliable. IT DOESN'T LOOK like the concept! It's just a Z4"
Is all 100% true. So I don't see the issue. Toyota lied to fans and enthusiasts about 'partnering' with BMW to lower costs, and lied how the development was separate, when it really wasn't.
Toyota is the second largest automotive company next to the VW group... They could easily afford to make their own car... they could've even sold it at a loss and subsidized the costs across multiple years of sales to break even and into profit without denting their company wallet. They chose not to. They didn't care enough about it. It was a last-ditch attempt at silencing everyone wanting a new Supra, without caring enough to make one, just to make a quick buck.
This deserves to be criticized forever, and NEVER forgotten.
@@enigmaPL Sorry to tell you but... your comment clearly dictates why you're not an automotive executive. Your idea really makes no business sense. Why would a company sell a mid level sports car or any product for that matter at a loss? The only time a company would ever sell a product at a loss is a halo product. This product is used as a marketing tool and offers a trickle down effect etc. Also, when did Toyota lie? Proof?
There is no mass market for sports cars anymore and partnering with BMW was the ONLY way for Toyota to justify the cost in producing the Supra. Economies of scale allowed BMW and Toyota to make the Supra affordable as well. If developed in house, it would easily have cost around the same price as a Lexus LC500 due to having to spend the R&D on a whole new inline 6, transmission, chassis etc. -- pointless really. At that point, you would cry why it's so expensive. Instead of being happy Toyota is even bringing out a sports car nobody will buy, you complain. Typical internet keyboard warrior.
If you really want a next gen Supra a kin to the MKIV developed in house, that's what the LC500 is for. Like the MKIV, it's a big GT that is 100% Toyota.
@@sdlausen1 And yet, there are more sports cars on the market today than there have been in the past decade, all doing well. Manufacturers making the best of the best iconic models, selling well and providing great marketing just by creating a damn good product. How is it everyone else can manage it, but the second largest automotive company in the world, cannot?
They took an iconic name, for the flagship model of the company, and put it on another manufacturers mid-tier car, to call their own. It's absolutely pathetic, and just as pathetic is defending that practice of corporate greed and short term profits above all else.
As for 'proof of Toyota lying'.... I hope you're joking.... If not... Just look over all the marketing bullshit they spewed, then see for yourself how much of it was true, and convince yourself. Because something that blatant cannot be explained.
@The Norm Macdonald Show I guess you magically want Toyota to make money on a car nobody will buy. You also want to spend $100k on a Supra that nobody would buy. Why don't you just by an LC500? I'm no fan of the BMW/Toyota collaboration on the Supra, but it was the only way Toyota could financially justify producing it.
@The Norm Macdonald Show You make no sense. If you think Toyota made the Supra to make a "profit" out of a low volume 2 door niche sports car, you're smoking crack cocaine. You clearly have no business sense or understanding of it. I guess you just rather not even have a Supra at all. Like I said, want a modern day Supra, BUY A Lexus LC500! It's a big GT car like the MKIV
Haven't seen any reviewers that actually lift the car and go over the underbelly as well. Very cool idea.
Jimmy Camey savagegeese is easily the best car reviewer
@@Arizona9001 He's the only reviewer that I know that lifts the car. My other favorites are RedLine Reviews and Alex on Autos because they pack in so much information in ~20 minutes each episode (even though they don't lift it). I love SavageGeese as well.
For example, during SavageGeese's Durango review, he said "if you dick around with the handle a bit, the back seats will fold down" and I died laughing. I love how vulgar he can be. Also his intros are always beautiful, especially this review. He shows the car in 3 or 4 different scenes. So good.
@@chadhaire1711 Prove it.
@@chadhaire1711 says right here that it pipes fake engine noise into the cabin. You must not be so good at your job. See? I can be condescending, too. www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/a29829552/2020-toyota-supra-sounds-fantastic-with-this-aftermarket-exhaust/
Also here's a video of a man deactivating the fake engine noise. There's a before and after clip in it as well. th-cam.com/video/q5di747-WCA/w-d-xo.html
It's quite amazing that one guy can make the world's best car reviews while putting to shame Motortrend's videos with a half dozen writers, editors, and camera crew. Good bye legacy media!
Jack fits perfectly within this review setting. Knowledgeable, concise, and even delivery without being boring. 2 relaxing voices to chill out with and hear some sound, objective conclusions.
Yes we do care about fake engine noise!
You can probably remove it like in most cars
@@MaxSpeedMike yeah I was hoping he would say that in the review and show the switch
@@superharold100 i'll be sure to show it when i review the a90 lol. I loved this review regardless. Very different, and honest perspective on the car compares to the other ones.
Yeah and that fake sound is hideous too.
reviewers may not like it, but buyers do.. else they wouldn’t do it
This is one of those cars that I have no desire to own, yet I still have a poster of one in my cubicle. Yeah, I can't explain it either.
cubicle. . .
such a sad life
@@carlosandleon meh, I'm young and have a great work life balance. Can't complain
Wow you busy articulated my feeling and emotions of this car. Tyvm
It's just a stunning car and you can still appreciate the charm of it even though some people have their qualms with it's development
I get this. It’s because the one you want has a manual. Which as of yet, doesn’t exist
You guys do such a good job reviewing cars for potential buyers! Thank you, this is essential information I need
Finally it’s here. 🙌🏽.
Savage is his name. Geeze is his game.
If the geese gives consent it's a fair game...lol
From what I've read, Toyota DIDN'T approve of the engine initially and forced BMW to make over a hundred changes.
saw the same thing, I was wondering if BMW made these changes in their engines or only the Toyotas got the improved engine.
Lance Richardson Where did you guys read this? I’m super interested to see what changes they made!
@@pascutiame too! Once they become 20k I'll buy one without a doubt
@@lancerichardson8023 Unless the changes were so drastic they essentially make it a whole other engine, it would be cheaper for them to mass produce one design so it's probably for all of them.
Jakob Holgersson this engine is almost identical to the b58 that been in other bmws for years
Your reviews are so detailed and intense, love it and keep it up.
Bought one 3 weeks ago. Love it! Exactly what I desired! Fast when needed. Could care less about the auto trans.Thumbs up from so many folks I go by. No regrets!
I got mine in September. I LOVE IT. The ladies love it too LOL. It’s such a good car. I’m glad we got ours ! How much you wanna bet that after the production runs out, everyone will want one lol.
@@alexiep2422 When the production runs out everyone will want to sell theres... as a mechanic who despises current AWFUL BMW design. I can safely say it will start falling to pieces in less then 10 years. Don't let the Toyota badge fool you... this is 100% a BMW through and through. No true DRIVERS cars are automatic. Unfortunately, almost all current sports/super cars are made for posers who can't or won't be bothered to actually... you know... drive the car!
@@ejkk9513 You can speak for yourself, but plenty of people enjoy and prefer "Driver's Cars" in automatic. Don't go thinking you are the final word on what an enjoyable car entails. The driving experience is about the whole car, the transmission is only a piece of that.
Toyota: This is the only way to make it affordable.
GM: Hold my beer....... we built the entire car. behold the 2020 Corvette.
masmcg Toyota is run by bean counters and quarterly gross profit margins. Sad really, used to be some real great engineering that came from that company.
Toyota: We meant affordable, reliable AND good.
GM: Erm............. can I have my beer back now?
GM has economies of scale on their side and they already make their own sports cars, neither of which are something Toyota is in a position to leverage. The C7 Corvette US sales alone match worldwide sales numbers of the FRS/BRZ/86 combined, despite being significantly more expensive. GM also already has the tooling and space to facilitate the new Corvette by converting the old one where Toyota would have to either massively expand operations (expensive and would push any vehicle with the performance envelope they were looking for beyond a reasonable price point) or axe an existing, profitable product line, to make the tooling and space available for a product that would likely be less profitable. Rather than take risks like that, Toyota chose to leverage existing manufacturers and product branding to make a sports car with the Toyota name a reality.
@@Nemoticon reliable with a BMW engine? We will see about that.
@@lynxis Yet Mazda, which is literally one TENTH the size of Toyota in terms of revenue, can build a dedicated sports car platform all by themselves that isn't shared with any of their other vehicles (Miata). Yes, Fiat gave them a suitcase full of money to borrow it for the 124 Spyder, but even if you make that argument, Mazda and Fiat COMBINED are still MUCH smaller than Toyota. Toyota absolutely COULD have easily afforded to build this car themselves, but they didn't have the nerve. They should be EMBARRASSED that their halo car is designed and built by BMW. It's inexcusable.
That said, I'm glad the BMW Supra and Z4 exist. I still won't consider buying one until they've been out long enough to have a proven good reliability record (which I'm VERY skeptical of, because... BMW) and until they put a manual transmission in it. That is the ultimate deal breaker for me - and most true driving enthusiasts.
When Jack popped into that car, it actually startled me. The cut was like he magically appeared! 😂 8:26
One of the best car reviews I've seen in a long time. Much kudos.
All the aluminum BMW components give me flash backs to the thousands of bent suspension components under normal driving.
I remember one person in a video bent his control arm when this car a few month back.
lol tesla too but even worse than bent, their lower control arm would just crack and dislocate completely off
Never heard of any bent suspension parts on BMWs short of an accident.
@Richard Favreau Or just get a truck. I have similar wheels for yr.s but I have a long time habit of steering around potholes, curbs, landmines and such.
@Richard Favreau My area roads aren't all fine but they are not quite 3rd world either and I have personal vehicle controls in use FULL TIME when driving, I don't text, talk, look at a phone or even play the damn tunes a lot. I DRIVE when I'm driving a sports car especially. That's not your thing tho?....maybe a sporty car is not your style. Hardly an insult just an observation.
Savage Geese Review - The only review that truly matters to me.
Your car profiles are the very best & frankly the only ones I get excited to tune into, thanks for a quality look at cars with a broad scope!
What up?
This was an excellent video and review. I have had my Supra for a little over a month now and I agree with pretty much everything you said.
This is the best car review channel I've come across, honest, to the point and great video quality. great shots. will be following these guys for a hwile.
I have waited for this review since release. Thanks.
I think it's a great day when a 2 door sports car is born. Screw the haters. However a manual transmission really should've been done.
Thats about my only need as well.
Only way a standard tranny will be offered is customer demand. Toyota's collab with BMW was to cut costs to begin with. I don't think they will risk it. Or maybe they might make special editions with manual.
@@imty8774 there is no demand. 1% of US car sales r manual. Every one is cutting their manuals like audi and bmw
@@Theaverageazn247 This, drivers ed where I live don't even teach manual unless you specifically ask.
@@Theaverageazn247 That's a B.S. statistic. It has to be an option before people can buy it. The option has been eliminated in all but a few vehicles. I'll give you that even when it IS an option, they sell far less than slushboxes, but true driving enthusiasts will prefer a manual in a sports car. The manual take rate is still very high in drivers cars like Miatas.
Fantastic editing on this video. The beginning shots mixed in with the engine noise were really cool. Also, Jack adds a lot of useful comparison info. Great vid.
Great review as always. Honestly im looking forward to pick one up. To me its the perfect car minus no manual. Toyota exterior design with BMW powerplant. Looks even better in person
Love how the hood closes without any rattling noises.
The only judgement that matters. The savage, goose-like judgement.
You really go into a great degree of depth in your reviews. Lots of nuance. Congrats, you've earned this sub. Looking forward to more of your content.
Savagegeese makes some of the best quality car videos on TH-cam. In terms of execution, the quality of the video, audio, B roll, etc, everything is tightened well done. You can tell their passionate about what they do.
this is the best review of supra so far. very detailed.
Very true
Tiffany Chen SavageGeese is one of the best that no one has heard of.
Tiffany Chen, serious question. Are you buying a new Supra? I just can't see myself driving one..
웅이 i don't think i will. i have nissan 370z.
@@HiBunnyGames 370z? Nice.
Me neither. I'd rather have a Mustang than this Supra.
Synthesized engine noise without the ability to turn it off? That's a deal breaker in my book.
unplug the speakers, good to go
Small issue, lots of aftermarket for that
Petty
@@Gchang54 Petty? In a world where you can configure every thing from shock damping rates to interior ambient lighting color how can the simple ability to turn off fake engine noises be considered petty?
@@justpassnthru if that's a dealbreaker for you, in my opinion, that's a petty reason. I'm sure there will be a cheap aftermarket solution to solve that "problem"
Great review, superb editing and fantastic balanced conversation. Enjoyed that.
This was a really nice, informative review. Thank you!
So many excuses from Toyota: first the vents were removable for racing, now they are homage to the racing variant. Latest excuse: "We didnt make any money off our older sportscars", yet Toyota is still one of the most profitable car companies in the world, and they especially were in the 90s, at their sports car peak. Toyota has developed a loyal fanbase because of their reliability and leading engineering, it is what guides purchases from my generation today. If they want to sacrifice that for the near term profits/risk, that is short sighted and ultimately they will lose customers.
It's still a low production car that while can be slightly profitable the margin is extremely small. It serves more as a halo car to attack new customers or to make the brand more interesting. The video was misleading on a little detail, the engine was co-developed. We will see for reliability but I'm sure it will pass the toyota mark
@@n.d.4317 Cant use that excuse. It's not at all low production if the average BMW dealership has no less that 5 Z4s sitting out on the lot, getting rained on. The Supra has 100 percent mechanical parts commonality with everything but piston heads, ecu and switchgear. Switchgear is from the old 3 series and looks like garbage. So, no. It's a slightly different BMW. Not at all low production.
yeah they literally invented lean manufacturing.
@@n.d.4317 Saying this engine was "co-developed" is like saying that I co-developed an engine with a manufacturer because I took and engine and modified a few components to suit my taste i.e. I co-developed a new engine with Toyota when I put a new cold air intake on my corolla engine.
@@cduncan5690 You should get more and better information.
My 50 birthday present next year. Looking forward to it
did you get it??
No, i got a Lexus gsf
Good choice, now that the GS is gone :( However, long live the IS500!
You made the right decision. BMW s are garbage.
@@PatrickHenryLibertyorDeath let me guess your friend of a friend of a friend had a bad experience so they’re all garbage, am I right?
I don't know who you are but I like your mellow style!
Can't wait to see more, subbed!
Best A90 review on YT!! Thanks for the excellent content!
I want an M2 or a 1M. The Supra actually looks pretty great. Never cared for the 90s one, never cared for the hype for this one, but this car definitely looks great. They did a good job modernizing it.
I prefer visibility and a spacey interiors though, so I wouldn't own a Supra. Always BMWs or old Hondas for me.
those fart shifts are worse that eric swallwells #fartgate
almost. nothing is worse.....well there's the rest of the shifts
OnDay 7 *than
My favorite news story of the last few months ☠️
Don’t notice them
@fabaum22 they are functional. There's videos explaining dct farts. Just doesn't sound that great
Papadakis is the man. I love watching people that are so knowledgable and still enthusiastic about what they're doing. Great, humble educator.
Best review I’ve seen, you know it’s legit when they start with the car on a lift.
While I do lament the loss of the manual options in many modern cars, they're still so engaging and entertaining to drive. I'm really sold on the new Supra - it really does look like a blast to own and drive, and people that are tracking them are really loving them. Between this and its Z4 cousin, there's just so much to love. Honestly, I'm very glad they chose the ZF transmission over a DCT/DSG, because they are just much nicer to drive with in calmer, tamer settings, and the engagement is just that much better. I love the ZF 6-speed in my QP, and I'm sure I'll love the ZF 8-speed in this.
I was a through-and-through Japanese car guy my whole driving life. I've owned a 1973 Datsun 240Z for the past 30 years, and all my daily drivers have been Japanese. As a teenager in the 80's, American cars were the epitome of lazy engineering that just couldn't compete with the Japanese. But when I recently had the means to buy another fun car, I ended up with a 2018 Camaro SS 1LE, and I couldn't be happier. The performance for dollar value is leaps and bounds better than anything the Japanese offer, and not just straight line performance. The 1LE is one of the best handling cars our there. And it does all this with a level of sophistication that I'd never expect from a car at this price point... magnetic ride suspension, electronics limited slip differential, rev matching, 5 levels of performance traction control, Android Auto/Apple Carplay, etc. Plus, as an added bonus, at 6'7" tall, I can actually fit in it with a helmet on! So, when the Supra came out at ~$10,000 more and yet was slower, had less room (ironic that I can fit in my nearly 50 year old 240Z but not this), and fewer features, I had zero regrets about not waiting.
@ Nigel White Interesting to hear you describe your experience as a Japanese car guy. I have been the same for my entire adult life. Now, I am looking for a fun weekend car and I am considering a Mustang GT. I rented one on vacation and was thoroughly impressed by how far American cars have come. Like you said, performance per dollar ratio is through the roof. Additionally, a lot of the American sports cars still offer a manual option as they should. Glad you are enjoying the Camaro. I hope my Stang is just as rewarding.
And you bought one before they uglified the nose! 😁
@@Maelstrom8 "My Stang" people actaully say that?
lmfao
As usual, great review. Dealer by me still has the original 3 Supra's they were allocated and they are STILL marked up - cheapest is 87K. The launch edition they still have listed for 108K and roped off like it is vault filled with diamonds. Nothing like discouraging buyers and preventing the Supra from being on the road by slapping a ridiculous ADM on them (I'm looking at you also Honda).
Best review on the Supra yet , Thank you.
This is definitely one of this year's cars
Corvette C8 : Are you sure about that?
@@Jstn150cc 'ONE OF'
ah yes, the car is made of car...2019 car.
the rAbb1t hole I think... it was a joke lol
Was!
Nice review mann best one out there so far. None of this bmw talk u usually get
Incredible opening... great review. Supranatural! 👍😎
Great honest review, I agree with your talking points, I personally wish it was 100 Percent Toyota designed and engineered, I really find it hard to believe with the amount of money and capital Toyota has, that they couldn't do this on their own. Look at Mazda, they are small compared to Toyota, yet look at all the engineering and design that they do !!!! Really enjoy your channel, I like you are honest and do real world reviews. p.s. Love when the car is on the lift and really get to see what is going on.
Having owned 4 Japanese coupes and 2 American coupes (currently a Mustang GT), I would consider this.
Ok thanks for letting us know.
Good to know, buddy.
You're welcome. Btw, I was responding to our hosts' remark about how Camaro & Mustang fans wouldn't go for the Supra.
So, what's your experience with German coupes? ...because that's what this is.
@@ZZZRaven65 I have yet to own one, but I have friends who own German coupes and I have attended some BMW Drive Events. Still considering...
They're pretty cool, and a lot better looking in person.
14:30 Phew, I was hoping that Silverado wouldn't blow a brake line
Subbed just for the intro alone. Good job 👍
Another great video. Dig the balanced presentation of positives and negatives.
Usually BMW have good engines, but everything around them falls apart after 4 years.
Well I still see people rolling arond in 240i and 440is still ever since they came out so this may not he as bad.
The electronic one, not the engine
Surprisingly BMW engine (espescially most of I6) is so durable, the electronic fall apart before the engine burning oil like a mad
True
Yeah except VANOS and bearings...
Carboy Dorifuto party they came out two years ago
Japan2020: to save money, let's move manufacturing to Austria.
Or, you know, merge two cars at one facility to save money? You shitters still haven't figured out why Toyota/BMW partnership happened and how it brought us a great Convertible and a great Coupé instead of nothing.
@@inspectorchicken who are you? Roberts Blossom, in Christine?
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@@fuddrucker74 gold
@@inspectorchicken I know you're the head of BMW research and development using a fake TH-cam account.
@@FnVir I am and this is my real account
I will eventually get the Supra in the next few years, and this review sealed the deal for me. Thank you.
I enjoy the depth of details in your videos and lack of cheesy BS.
Wish it was called the GRS or FT1 and not the supra but the looks have definitely grown on me.
I was thinking Celica
You're focusing on entirely the wrong bit, lol.... the name is irrelevant, what is important is if it is a good car or not.
I wish it was designed and built in Japan by TOYOTA. If I ever want to buy a BMW (I won't), I'll buy a BMW,
@@Nemoticon Yeah that is the most important thing but car names should car some weight with regard to their history. Imagine if Chevrolet had tried to pass off an NSX as the new corvette.
... Wait until the mustang mach-e... Oh, wait...too late
"More quiet" -- Quieter.
"A lot more simple" -- Simpler.
"A lot more busy" -- Busier.
"The most unique" -- Unique.
"More edgy" -- Edgier.
*Uniquer
"*Uniquer" -- Kill me now.
This was epic win
"Judgement" - Judgment (It's in the title after all...)
@George Hugh -- Unless it's for UK audience, then "Judgement" would work.
Sharp presentation with a unique perspective 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thank you for the review. Very polished.
Love the videos. Saw a Supra on the street and it looks great
... Yes, it looks good, but the (car's) issue go way deeper than the looks. And that is where it goes all wonky.
Good job! I hadn’t heard the tidbit about Toyota going over the engine and deeming it reliable.
There's a lot of BMW there to go bad besides the engine...
Paul von Helger yeah the B58 is known to be a good engine. But maintenance costs, electronics etc. are what get you
Wow that intro was amazing! great editing work
Best reviewer out there. I bought my Supra last year in September because of you guys and this review & honestly, I LOVE my Supra. It’s so good at everything it does. The “ wow “ factor is all there. Always getting thumbs up and people taking pictures of it.
Except when you try to drive with the windows down
@@kamikaziblack $8.99 Amazon fix my guy.
Aren't these cars already recalled for pretty major frame issues?
My personal opinion is they hit it out of the park.
No manual option is a downer but in all other ways a big winner.
"OH WHAT A FEELING" Toyota Bmw.
Good job.
To date, this is the best Supra video I have seen.
Your savageness MR. GEESE has earned you a new subscriber! Keep up the great work Sir!
Cinematic as hell. Love it
Didn't expect to see you here.
@@GT-RTData9 ye
It’s good that Toyota has the aftermarket scene in mind for the GR Supra
Shows how much potential the car has
I feel like they are trying to push owners to modding it. This way if that BMW engine starts acting up, Toyota doesn't have to deal with it.
@@FilthyFauci sshut the fuck up
Great job in both of your review.
I had to rewatch this review, something about it sexy and clever... Then, I realized it's the discussion and difference of opinions between Mr. Geese and Jack Singapore. I absolutely love the dynamic that Jack brings to the show. Before, many of my friends thought the reviews were very opinionated and now there is a nice blend of intelligent discussion. Handsome and dope.
Your videos are so good I wish they all were about twenty minutes longer.
Ya lost me at no manual transmission and bmw :(
@@ELECTRICEYEMEDIA Too stupid to know what a false equivalency is, eh? Dumbass Gen Z'ers will be the death of humanity.
Nobody makes manuals anymore get over it guess you could buy an STI
@@jasonhudson8336 Nah, shaddup.
lmaoo
I mean literally the best, most unbiased, most thorough reviewer I have ever seen for anything ever. I'm genuinely amazed at the quality and thoroughness of these videos compared with other reviewers out there with even 8 times the amount of subscribers. I have a great respect for you guys.
Kudos on the camera work, the shots against the water are stunning.
The fart noises it makes every time it shifts are hilarious.
Where's the outro? I need to be shown how to get rid of SavageGeese!
This is the man you're leaving me for? Very well.
I wanna know how to get the Jungle Power!
It's getting hot out there...
You think you're straight?
@@taishou94 I'm cranking it all night
Very educated breakdown. Thank you!
After seeing this review, Daddy Doug’s review, & what the aftermarket and Daddy Papadakis has done to the Supra, I actually want this car even more now than ever.
The A90, in general, is a great car. But comparing it to my BRZ, I feel that I made the right choice.
I feel like the Supra is just a premium af brz/86. I mean that in a good way.
They're not even in the same stratosphere.
The BRZ has better appeal, it's a Subaru version of the 240Z or NA FD RX-7.
@@DarthVader-1701 I can see the appeal in both badges. Car is 98% the same, just a matter of taste imo. so many ppl in the past have asked me if the 86 is a Celica or a Supra though (pre-new supra) When I think Subaru I always think AWD & UEL headers. Toyota I associate more with RWD and Coupes. I love both brands, so I'd be happy rocking either badge :)
If you bought a BRZ it's probably because you couldnt afford a Supra lol
The RCF doesn't sell because they priced it at $80,000. GSF for $90,000. LC500 $100k. Knock 20k off those prices and it's more competitive.
Kevin Schmidt they're trying to sell the new Supra for $80k at dealerships
You're not wrong about the price point being an issue. That said, if I were in the market for a new sports car now or in the near future this wouldn't be it. Id either go with a gt350 or a new C8
@@Semlohecneret if the RCF was $60,000 new, I'd personally take that over a new Vette.
@@LingLing1337 not near me, they're $53,000
More quality content from my boy! Keep it up, goose
Saw you comment in a StraightPipes vid...thought your name looked familiar. Subbed for the production quality. Top notch.
Toyota saved my marriage by not offering this car with a manual transmission. Me and my wife would be fighting over who gets to drive it off the lot.
So, whos driving the manual?
Rowyn Maxwell We both drive manual transmission cars so that's why we would be fighting over a manual Supra. I would win though because I'd be paying for it.
Malik Martin you need to take a deep breath before you start typing. My comment was not meant to be taken seriously. You may need to seek professional help if you get upset when reading TH-cam comments. Now go try to find a life for yourself.
@Malik MartinDid you just go into a Trump rant? OMG GET HELP!
Nailed it
I do like the the thoroughness of the review. However, canned engine noise, poser aero parts and a ridiculous price tag at 60k plus means this car would be a solid pass in my books.
Pretty much every sports car has engine noise piped into the cabin anymore, and it's only gonna get more prevalent. I really don't get how $60K is a ridiculous price tag. You're getting a car that's, for the 2021 model year, making about 440bhp, last year's model was 1 second off of the M4's time at VIR and faster than the M2, it's got a version of iDrive that's better than the newest version, and it's more comfortable enough to live with everyday than any of the American sports cars. This car is like if you were gonna buy an M240i, but you don't need the seats, and you wanna go faster.
DUDE!! you killed it with that killer intro! Subbed just because of that.... you didn’t actually put that together did you?..
From the soundtrack, camera pan angles, backdrop, natural lighting effects, reflections on the car, and synchronization audio and video. JUST WOW!!
Most was shot by Jack and assembled by Goose.
savagegeese kudos for that post production work!
Your intros are godlike! Keep it up :)
I miss Scott turboski:/ hope everything is alright with him
Jack has replaced him.
Yeah. It sucks.
Miss his attitude
Jack sucks. Turbowski was funny.
@@MelvinKhosa Jack is cool. Wish we had more of him and turbowski
I've seen a couple if the flesh, one driving and the other was on a transporter. I didn't like what I saw online and but in person, it like it. Sadly, I don't have $40,000.
Even sadder is you'll need at least $50,000, not $40,000... and that's before dealer markups.
A realistic price to drive it out of the dealership is closer to $54k. $40k would get you the front 3/4 of the car but no rear wheels.
The intro is impeccable.
TMP is an excellent track facility/venue. Did my first ever track day there and I fell in love with the course.
They really dropped the ball not giving the Supra a manual
@Charlie Vetsworth And yet Porsche has just offered the 2020 911 Carrera with a 7 speed manual. For chasing lap times a DCT is superior (which this BMW also doesn't have) - for pure driving enjoyment a manual is where it's at. I've owned a ZF equipped performance car - it's good, but it's nowhere near as engaging as driving with a clutch pedal.
Same with the Vette.....
@Charlie Vetsworth wrong to the max
@@carstech2685 dct is the future. Dont be stupid
@@MrColourclassic yes, Porsche had the manual 911 but the car is still much slower than its dct counterpart. Which means manual is of the past and Charlie is right
Everyone hates it yet keeps an eye out for it time by. time. This supra is hiding something. Y'all sensing it
A great review.. great objectivity and know how. This dude knows his shit. I like this Toyota / BMW collaboration
Very interesting review and information. Never knew about the fake vents. Overall, it seems like a great everyday sports car enthusiast vehicle despite not being anywhere near as unique as the original.
A BMW i can take to the toyota dealership, what's not to like?
The fact that it’s a BMW money pit.
@@Young_Travels new cars come with warranties dipshit
Service at any stealership is only as good as whatever dumb kid they have working on it. You want someone with limited BMW experience trying to diagnose it at a Toyota dealer?
Toyota dealerships are used to dealing with Toyota designed cars with Toyota reliability. If they can screw up repairs on a Camry what chance do they have on this German thing?
@Logical Man or u just hate Toyota😂😂😂 jk but beaty is in the eyes of the beholder, it won't be nice if I came to meet u and told u your personal car is so ugly but we all got opinions cheers
BMW owner: Finally a Toyota I can use.
Guaranteed: if Toyota is involved, it’ll be boring, bland and uninspired.
Nice review as usual.I feel like i am listening nice lecture in College.
:) great job as always, thank you