2023 Nissan Z | Until The Bitter End

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  • @albonfilms
    @albonfilms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1550

    Even as a self-proclaimed Nissan hater, seeing the careful consideration that went into this Z is something that brings me tremendous joy. The world we knew is sunsetting, that is unavoidable. The next generation of driving may be awful, or it may just be wonderful in its own way, only time will tell. But for those of us who have been raised on the feeling of driving a well set up, connected sports car, one where every one of the senses is put to use to precisely move through space, the new Z is a triumph, despite its flaws. A massive congratulations to the engineers and designers that pushed to bring this car to market, especially at a tough time like this at Nissan.
    Here's to another few decades of modified Z's making trumpet sounds down the street at 2am.

    • @RAZGR1Z
      @RAZGR1Z 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I hope this trend continues.

    • @Beer_Dad1975
      @Beer_Dad1975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Problem is, it is ultimately from a brand that never recovered from the GFC, and is owned by Renault group - which means no matter how good the car is, you have to deal with some of the worst after sales support in the world if you buy one.

    • @captainminecraftist
      @captainminecraftist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I also am glad this came around because I feel like it was partially the reason for the Supra getting a manuel. They don't want to lose all those customers to the z family lols

    • @nathanchildress5596
      @nathanchildress5596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Nissan sure is flawed now, but they’ve made more affordable drivers cars in their history than just about anyone, even if you think Honda’s or Toyota’s are better.

    • @motormusique
      @motormusique 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Nissan hater? Lol I didn't think anyone could have such strong feelings about Nissan let alone hate

  • @punjabeeplaya
    @punjabeeplaya 2 ปีที่แล้ว +844

    The cinematography. The interviews. The technical depth. The history. The editing. Another piece of peak automotive journalism. Well done SG team. Amazing job.

    • @davidmccarthy6061
      @davidmccarthy6061 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Way underrated and they should be at 5 mil subs.

    • @costco_pizza
      @costco_pizza 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Could the new 2023 Nissan Z very well be the greatest car ever created in all of automotive history?

    • @Jakabre
      @Jakabre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @savagegeese has been exceptional as we've watched their growth. True to the mission, always, and consistent in delivery. Love this channel.

    • @zhizhenglim630
      @zhizhenglim630 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was blown by what I've watched in the past 40 minutes. Still having a hard time believing that I was on TH-cam.
      I would want to add the two presenters themselves into your list too. I feel like they've grown very accustomed to one another over the years and there's something about the dynamics between the duo that made the presentation entertaining in its own unique way.

  • @savagegeese
    @savagegeese  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1401

    We will be on live chat during premiere. This video was created to, tell the design story, engineering changes and try to re-define the launch videos of new cars. This was the combination of well over 3 weeks worth of work to make this video. We continue to hope manufacturers like Nissan find the value in small private outlets like us to out work the corporate media giants.

    • @XMrMcNuttyX
      @XMrMcNuttyX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Honestly can't wait. After the work you guys did on the Miata series I know this will be incredible.

    • @minimumtrade
      @minimumtrade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Engineering changes. Lol.

    • @jonathanb1987
      @jonathanb1987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I know that you will deliver a better product than the media giants. They don't care about quality. They don't care about every detail that goes into the development, engineering, and manufacturing of these works of art. They only care about being first. You focus on the details within the art, that the car manufacturers have made.

    • @air-headedaviator1805
      @air-headedaviator1805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am so excited to watch. When y’all do big videos and indef looks I always leave with a greater appreciation for the art of automotive design

    • @fortheloveofnoise
      @fortheloveofnoise 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      We love what you guys do, never stop.

  • @JammyP100
    @JammyP100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +635

    I still can't believe the production value of the content you guys produce. It is genuinely some of the most well rounded content on TH-cam. Awesome.

    • @jimest4602
      @jimest4602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This video is not well rounded. Its a promo ad for Nissan. Its an insult to call this anything but a sponsored promo ad. This is so against what Savagegeese was as a reviewer. I cannot take what they say serious anymore as they can be bought by the manufactures.

    • @byunism
      @byunism 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      For realz. 10 years ago, they needed one of the biggest broadcasting companies to produce content like this. This channel is just missing that third troll to make the trifecta of the Three Stooges. Subscribe to this channel if you haven't because 572K is a fucking joke for content and production value this good.

    • @RAZGR1Z
      @RAZGR1Z 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@jimest4602 You must own a Toyota.

    • @JammyP100
      @JammyP100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jimest4602 sounds like your merger didn’t go through. Chin up 👍

    • @stocksxbondage
      @stocksxbondage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And they don’t do it once… they do it constantly! 👏🏽

  • @security_threat
    @security_threat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +219

    Mark & co.: Thank you for the sacrifices you made to bring us a true piece of automotive journalism. This video will stand the rest of time. People will watch this 10 years from now.

  • @lotusupra
    @lotusupra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I just don't understand how Doug Demuro gets so much more views than this channel. These guys put so much effort into every videos they make instead of just talking about quirks and features. The cinematography is miles ahead of every other car reviewers on youtube

    • @samfoster7592
      @samfoster7592 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      IQ

    • @rbell2915
      @rbell2915 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Doug is the absolute worst.

  • @iJayBT
    @iJayBT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +430

    Had to give a thumbs up the second I saw the interview in the intro. Bar none, BEST coverage of the Z, the cinematography, the music, the stories, the emotions; absolutely hit it out of the park with this one. Can't believe a car review could bring tears to my eyes, absolutely beautiful coverage of the new Z, cheers.

    • @savagegeese
      @savagegeese  2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      Thank you for appreciating the work and enjoying it. Makes doing videos like this easier to stomach. Hope to continue the trend.

    • @geethsan1567
      @geethsan1567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Man i wish I wasn't poor so I could donate to Savageeese

    • @dasmg
      @dasmg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i too received the tears. the opening hit.

    • @robertm3029
      @robertm3029 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@savagegeese "... easier to stomach." This is work you can be proud of; your consistent message regarding the loss of this sort of vehicle is making me think and I expect I'm not the only one.

  • @TheExtravagant
    @TheExtravagant 2 ปีที่แล้ว +468

    Dear Almighty! The cinematography is beyond the tubes level by a mile. Looking forward to the video more than the car.

    • @rcDoom
      @rcDoom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Not just the video but also the soundtrack

    • @e46m54nissansr20937
      @e46m54nissansr20937 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Relax man it is admirable to be honest. I think you’re being a little “extra" right now. Chill

    • @misterhat6395
      @misterhat6395 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Plus there’s no dealer markup for the video

    • @freepadz6241
      @freepadz6241 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought it was naff. Tone it down guys

    • @BeingMe23
      @BeingMe23 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If I was a Major Network Executive I would had offered him a contract for a TV show.

  • @2stronk.
    @2stronk. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    Holy hell what an insane production quality, thank you so much for making my days better with your videos, especially this one. By far the best coverage of this car, and I doubt it'll be surpassed until this thing is a classic featured in a documentary.

  • @dugintexas7908
    @dugintexas7908 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gen X , lover of cars, owner of a 1990's twin turbo 300ZX here. I watched Nissan lose their way and then seeing them return to this, with everything going on means there is a core of hope amongst the soulless, CVT, calculator worshiping company that once made the 240SX, 300ZX , Skyline and others. From a journalistic standpoint I am not sure what other outlets do to compare to the level of enthusiasm, honesty, chemistry and quality of the reviews on savagegeese. I am loving seeing your access and inclusion from the industry grow . It is truly a triumph. My sincerest congratulations to both of you.

  • @thecanadiancollector9352
    @thecanadiancollector9352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +255

    Some cars have a soul. Mark even commented on it. The old guard is right. As a 50 year old that has a 350Z and is still making it better year after year there's a lot to be said for the feeling a car provides. Nissan has provided more of everything that matters with this one. This video was awesome.

    • @savagegeese
      @savagegeese  2 ปีที่แล้ว +187

      I am getting sick of car is "fast" culture of showing straightline races and ignoring everything else.

    • @markotrbeznik731
      @markotrbeznik731 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@savagegeese yes Man yes👍

    • @KB-Riderwithabeard
      @KB-Riderwithabeard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@savagegeese 'speed' isn't everything. The car has to talk to you, the driver.

    • @xRockee
      @xRockee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@savagegeese amen

    • @pirihern9329
      @pirihern9329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I'm retired 69 enjoying my 2006 sti w/spt add ons. Before that had the 98 Honda prelude.

  • @slidemx5384
    @slidemx5384 2 ปีที่แล้ว +245

    Gents, this video feels like a level up for you. The previous videos have built to this, but something about this one feels like it's broken through to a new level. Well done, and thank you.

  • @bk138gt6
    @bk138gt6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I love that this guy from Nissan is talking about the dissatisfaction about the supra not having a manual transmission. People who want sports cars generally prefer manuals. I'm glad someone is listening

  • @knfriberg
    @knfriberg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    You guys crushed it on this video! The cinematography, the details and interviews were top notch. This is the pinnacle of the channel so far, and can’t wait to see what comes next.

  • @itsdefinitelynotdave
    @itsdefinitelynotdave 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Loved the interview with the designers/engineers and how you tied back into it at the end, mentioning how they’ve experienced the definition of “sports car” changing over time. It’s a fantastic point to make, and gives your film an emotional component that all the other reviews lack. The new Z seems like it will be a legend and I can’t wait to see more content on this.

    • @mr.butterworth
      @mr.butterworth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The definition of “sports car” doesn’t change however. People only pervert the concept, and twist it around ideas that don’t fit that definition, just so they can say “sports car”. Today’s Z is really just a sports coupe - one of many on the market, which dilutes the car greatly. It’s odd how many people think this car is somehow groundbreaking.

    • @itsdefinitelynotdave
      @itsdefinitelynotdave 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Mr. Butterworth I appreciate the correction. The definition has not changed, but what people are willing to live with has. I am happy to see another Japanese, rear wheel drive coupe (with a stick) on the market, even if it is diluted.
      I think the hype around this car is partly due to the Japanese coupe renaissance we're experiencing, and partly because it came from Nissan. It's one of their more exciting products in recent memory.

  • @eeshunique
    @eeshunique 2 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    I don't think I've ever seen such a honest, down to earth, and relaxed car designer interview before. Usually it's full of marketing term bs and art college terms being thrown around by some designer refusing to get off his high horsy

    • @RAZGR1Z
      @RAZGR1Z 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I agree I've seen Alfonso in other interviews and he has always seemed like a normal guy.

    • @unuseableb
      @unuseableb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I want to see Bmw designers put on the spot like this. I doubt we would hear much of art or emotion

    • @catinthehat5140
      @catinthehat5140 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just because someone uses design terms doesn't mean they are arrogant

  • @RDMcK22
    @RDMcK22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thanks for making content for adults and not clickbait for 12 year olds.

  • @eppyz
    @eppyz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    HUGE PROPS to NISSAN for not killing off the Z and continuing the legacy. This new Z has so much history behind it. I mean just look at it. It has all generations mixed in to a new modern package. Has a manual transmission and a gas powered engine. Get them while you can. This car is a classic in the making👍😎

    • @JGL98
      @JGL98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Its beautiful but for sure going to get marked up by dealers 😒

    • @theeppychronicles
      @theeppychronicles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JGL98 like every other vehicle right now. It's ridiculous 🙄

    • @mr.butterworth
      @mr.butterworth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely not a classic, it’s incredibly boring in its lines and oddly convoluted in its details. It’s basically yet another dull sports coupe, despite its numbers. Too much content, oversized on the outside, cramped on the inside. Odd how the designers feel they’ve created something beautiful.

    • @theeppychronicles
      @theeppychronicles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mr.butterworth They never said it was perfect rather almost perfect. These type of cars are being replaced by boring and very ugly electric vehicles. If your not a fan of the Z and it's history i can understand your point other than that? Nothing to complain about.

    • @chodkowski01
      @chodkowski01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theeppychronicles you need to watch more videos on this car. A concerning point is the movement of the manual Z stick shift during acceleration. That was a major problem of my 370z Nismo. I had to redo all the rear diff and subframe bushings a long with a brace and the noise from the rear was loud.

  • @henkondemand
    @henkondemand 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Gentlemen, this is absolutely fantastic. Thank you for putting in all this effort and skill to tell these amazing stories. This video was another masterclass.

  • @rekleif
    @rekleif 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    This is no longer just a car TH-cam channel, this is art at display Mark, congratulations and well done. Beautiful, and you give us this for free, you should produce for Top Gear, then they actually might recover what they lost after the departure of their three stars. Very impressed by this video...

    • @jackholmes8105
      @jackholmes8105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for the kind words. We really bust our ass on this one

    • @rekleif
      @rekleif 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jackholmes8105 You guys so thoroughly deserve the praise. Your hard work is showing and it is very impressive what you pulled off with this video. Congrats and thank you so very much for this piece of 🖼 God bless from Norway.

    • @povertyspec9651
      @povertyspec9651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jackholmes8105 Jack, I remember when you first started on Savagegeese's channel. The growth since then is as mind-boggling as the fact that that the turbos can spin as much as 3,750 revolutions per second!

  • @Wimbell93
    @Wimbell93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    You can't keep topping yourself like this SG. This was incredible.

  • @thejo6331
    @thejo6331 2 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    I love hearing the engineering/design/business side of the process, and how Nissan's internal culture played into it. Love you guys!

  • @zeksel1
    @zeksel1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    THE BEST coverage/story telling of this new car in all the internets! You guys rock! No other youtuber or journalist or whoever covered this car this well. The effort you guys go into to set up the interviews and get the stories is well worth it. You may not be the first to release a video (something the others strive for) but you are the only channel that counts! Thank you!

  • @qntmsea4631
    @qntmsea4631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As many are here, I am not a Nissan-o-phile but this really highlights what goes into making a timeless car -- well deserving of a timeless film.

  • @robertwinston2496
    @robertwinston2496 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This review was exactly what everyone needed to hear/see. Yes it's the old chassis, but that's okay. It's a driver's car, something that is dying. Way to go Nissan & SavageGeese.

  • @julians7268
    @julians7268 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    What an honor. A better group of guys couldn't have been selected to introduce the Z to North America. It's stupid, but I really teared up. This car, it is a family member for me. First car was a 350z. Dad, when he left, he had a 93 TT. It's going to be fun seeing where this is taken by the community.

    • @FreeRangeLemon
      @FreeRangeLemon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bruh that ain't stupid

    • @mikef5694
      @mikef5694 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As someone who has no strong feelings towards the Z one way or the other, I definitely felt some emotion when they first take the new Z on the track and then pan to the previous Gen Z behind it. Kind of a passing of the torch.

  • @2themaxgaming
    @2themaxgaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    This video was absolutely breathtaking. You have some of the greatest cinematography I have ever seen. Mark and Jack, the work you do to not only showcase these vehicles but paint them in an honest light for the everyday individual is so amazing. Being 27 and with certain current financial responsibilities, seeing your videos give me hope to one day be able to buy a true affordable drivers car. Right now the goal is the new 86/brz 😎. Just wanted to say thank you so much for everything you do and wish you both the best!

  • @OneJuanWon
    @OneJuanWon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    Once again, a top notch review by the SG team. The level of detail provided in areas where most content creators will gloss over is very impressive. This video taught me a lot about what has gone into the new Z and I have a greater appreciation for the car now. Thank you for all of your efforts - they are very appreciated.

  • @tezdogz9767
    @tezdogz9767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I have never commented on a video but I can’t let this pass. What an amazing and professional production. I couldn’t afford a 240Z when they came out, and did an early preorder of the Z. Your review has me salivating! One of your final comments made me question - can you name an expensive sports car that is less fun to drive?

    • @mikewaite3746
      @mikewaite3746 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you eventually get your z?

    • @cosmic_gate476
      @cosmic_gate476 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikewaite3746 Assuming he is in Canada (there were no pre orders in US), no. Only 2 people have gotten their Z in Canada yet. I'm also waiting for my pre order. Good chance it arrives in the next month or two

  • @Tool0GT92
    @Tool0GT92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Mark and Jack are the absolute pinnacle of automotive reviews and filmmaking. Thank you guys for all your hard work.

  • @drtofuu
    @drtofuu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I quit the "quirks and features" and embarked myself into pure car video art and delight. Thanks for being so awesome Savagegeese.

    • @masturdate
      @masturdate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      THISSSS is a comment.

  • @Zygrene
    @Zygrene 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Well done guys. Proved again why you're consistently in my top 3 favorite automotive channels.

    • @Meekmillan
      @Meekmillan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Top 3, and they’re not 3 and they’re not 2

    • @CarsMeetsBikes
      @CarsMeetsBikes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You’re in my top 3 too zaddy zygrene

    • @Meekmillan
      @Meekmillan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-se4tk2jj8c Regular Car Reviews & 1320 when they do reviews.
      ..If OP is cool.

    • @Zygrene
      @Zygrene 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CarsMeetsBikes 😘

    • @Zygrene
      @Zygrene 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@user-se4tk2jj8c Throttle House and Carfection

  • @nelsonricciardi7087
    @nelsonricciardi7087 2 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Ok. I have to say something after watching this. You two work so well together, you two produce such good content that I can only hope you get bigger and achieve the success you want and deserve. Including lots of money! You really do amazing work and you reached a new level with this video. I have never seen anything like this anywhere. Ever. The car is great. Fine. But you two, the hosts, are outstanding. Absolutely amazing work. Congrats.

    • @Mr.Thermistor7228
      @Mr.Thermistor7228 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      watch their LFA video from a year or two ago ;]

  • @mattsitsback
    @mattsitsback 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the quality we get on this youtube channel is next level.

  • @hunterbruno9052
    @hunterbruno9052 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Quality on Savagegeese videos are second to none. This is the first channel I come to every time I wanna learn about a car. You guys rock.

  • @crazedmodder
    @crazedmodder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    I didn't want a Z before this video. After seeing the team talk about the work that they've done to it though, and hearing about how much better it is than the 370... Damn I want one so baddd.
    This was an incredible video by the way! Your longer segments are always interesting to watch. I love hearing from the development teams and seeing how passionate they are, it really makes cars come alive.

  • @Zlife-kz1go
    @Zlife-kz1go 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    This is without a doubt the absolute best video review of this car on all of TH-cam. Thank you. Please never stop making these videos. You guys are the "goats" of youtube car reviews. Iv watched alot of reviews. Unlike alot of those videos, your videos have soul. Their the most informative and easy to digest videos I'v seen. They are pretty damn entertaining too, Patagonia jackets and all.👍

  • @xaisies
    @xaisies 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Holy crap this looks like a $10k/minute documentary. I'm not sure how you produce such good quality with such regularity and consistent improvement. It would be interesting to see a behind the scenes... a "making of" some of this stuff so we can see just how you pull this off.

    • @MJSEN
      @MJSEN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Same, I wanna see the footage of Jack unlocking the padlock outside Mark's editing chamber, sliding in an Arby's and getting the hell out of there

    • @mikef5694
      @mikef5694 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please make this a thing.

    • @jackholmes8105
      @jackholmes8105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@MJSEN feeding mark is like the beginning of Jurassic Park. "Shoooootttt HErrrrrrrr"

    • @2aminitials
      @2aminitials 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Welcome to Jurassic Mark" as the orchestra music plays softly on a mid range car audio system that is slightly bass heavy according to the sound engineer.

  • @jlrosine
    @jlrosine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man what a fantastic video, great work. I have owned a 240z, 280z, 300z, 300 turbo, 2x 300 twin turbos then life and kids took over. This car might be my next Z. What a great history and tribute video this was, sure made me smile.

  • @doomguy10011
    @doomguy10011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the single greatest video on the new Z on the entire internet! Thank you!

  • @rhiiine
    @rhiiine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Usually "Driving Impressions" is my favorite part of your reviews, but telling the story and cinematography take the cake here. And a lesson in double wishbone suspension!

  • @bRiAn55549
    @bRiAn55549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    The new Z having a manual definitely helped convince Toyota they needed one as well

    • @2moke2creen
      @2moke2creen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Which is silly considering Toyota should have just asked BMW for their manual from the M2.

    • @Wolfy400
      @Wolfy400 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@2moke2creen honestly i think its pretty likely BMW didnt wanna give toyota a manual out of fear of losing sales from cars like the m2

    • @papa_pt
      @papa_pt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@2moke2creen bmw doesn't even sell a single B58 car with manual in the US anymore. I think they ended up modifying the Z4 4 cyl manual trans from Europe

    • @2moke2creen
      @2moke2creen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Wolfy400 Makes sense and is even more aggrevating why Toyota let BMW screw them.

    • @2moke2creen
      @2moke2creen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@papa_pt either that or maybe from 340i. 340i trans might make more sense since it's built for the B58.

  • @rossacord9645
    @rossacord9645 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    A lot of people talk about your cinematography (rightfully so) and production quality (rightfully), but man, the way you presented this: the pacing, the story, the build ups.....It's just A+ all around. I never paid any attention to this car before, and now I want to drive one.

    • @thomasdoherty5104
      @thomasdoherty5104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I didn’t really care about this car before but now I want to own one!

  • @hdog1129
    @hdog1129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    As a long time z33 owner, this made me very sentimental. Fantastic content, savagegeese is definitely a channel that is under appreciated in the automotive industry. This video was a slap to my wrist, almost pulling a trigger on one of these ‘cultural-must’ new EVs.

  • @oogalee
    @oogalee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is light years ahead in production and content than any other car reviewer on youtube.
    not sure why this channel hasn't exploded yet

  • @mpersad
    @mpersad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    What a joy that must have been to drive. Hats off to Nissan for having the guts to do this. And the beauty of this video. Absolutely superb piece of work, both car and the review.

  • @TheEquationSlayer
    @TheEquationSlayer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    22:00. Thanks for pointing out the external slave cylinder! The 370Z’s concentric slave cylinders were a costly issue for a lot of owners.

  • @otterpods
    @otterpods 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I’m thrilled you gentlemen were the first journalists to drive the Z in the country. You all deserve this.
    The number one car journalism channel on TH-cam.
    The number one car review media period.
    Couldn’t be happier.

  • @chrislush7910
    @chrislush7910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This isn’t a video this is a love letter to car enthusiasts everywhere. Incredible.

  • @jonnyj.
    @jonnyj. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man, the nissan documentaries and the lexus lfa doc have been SO DAMN GOOD. The ammount of effort and passion you put into these videos never goes unnoticed, from the camera work to the sound editing. Talking to the engineers also makes me happy as an engineer myself. Youre a legend

  • @felineflammenwerfer8375
    @felineflammenwerfer8375 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It annoys me when people complain that it’s on the same platform as the 370z. Just be happy we are even getting this car! It doesn’t have to be new all the time, you can improve the old stuff. As always fantastic video guys, you deserve so much more recognition.

  • @mat13174
    @mat13174 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    This was more than just a “you tube video”, it felt more like a full blown documentary and was amazing. Brilliant work👍

  • @Swebavator
    @Swebavator 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This video is off the chain….This is the best video you have ever produced. This was giving me chills throughout and I’m not even a Nissan fan. This video should win an award!!!

  • @dougsmith9571
    @dougsmith9571 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a car guy who sold Nissan's for a living in the 90s (retired now) as well as owned several ,I'd like to share a few observations. As much as I loved the 90s 300ZX, which is my favorite , yet detested the 350 Z , I am impressed with the way the new one came out . Nissan took some chances still offering a manual , and some edgy styling details. IF Dealers don't rip off buyers with big markups , and IF Nissan can get production out smoothly with minimal supply chain hold-ups , this may be a breakout hit similar to the original Z's of the 70s . People are tired of lame ass , quirky , overpriced sports cars that don't handle all that well and are overly complicated! Good review , thanks.

  • @fhowland
    @fhowland 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of your best videos yet. No one on TH-cam even comes close to your level of production and quality of content. Hats off.

  • @Drive615
    @Drive615 2 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    PUMPED FOR THIS! well done as always gents!

  • @toddpayton8197
    @toddpayton8197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Jack: we're the first journalists in N.A. to drive this car.
    ...and as a thank you, our production level is over 9000!

    • @jackholmes8105
      @jackholmes8105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We busted our asses on this one.

  • @RAZGR1Z
    @RAZGR1Z 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Mark and Jack killed it once again. Bringing the story of the new Z to life in a beautiful way. I hope this car sells big time to show manufacturers that people still want soul in their sports cars.

  • @tonynittoli4792
    @tonynittoli4792 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The production is second to none. A channel created for anyone who loves cars. Thank you

  • @thepassinglane
    @thepassinglane 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the best Savage video ever made. Period. I will be looking back on this video 5, 10, even 15 years from now and remember how good it was.

  • @RainL8
    @RainL8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    THIS. This video is what other car channels should be striving for their quality. The cinematography, the interviews, the specs, the discussion of what this car is striving for are all so perfectly done. You gents never disappoints, and I'm embarassed to say that I'm getting emotional watching this video, knowing this car might be the last of its kind to grace the car culture.

  • @Baldybrew
    @Baldybrew 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I love this so much. Hearing the designers talk so candidly about their triumphs and failures is really wonderful. Unlike everything else you get from most of these interviews from other manufactures that feel very staged and scripted, this feels so natural and genuine. This further makes me realize just how incredible this channel is. You all truly are revolutionizing the automotive journalism space with videos like these. Incredible job, guys.

  • @Garagetopics
    @Garagetopics 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Fantastic cinematography and editing as always. This video will forever be relevant, depicting what to expect with this Z

  • @mazdaratti89
    @mazdaratti89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Nissan did a great job on this "Z". They took the old bones of the old 350/370 and improved everything. Power, low end torque, steering, rear differential, and of course styling. Offered it from the beginning with a manual and a better front suspension than the Supra, at thousands of dollars less. A real winner.

    • @sigmaprojects
      @sigmaprojects 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's going to really be interesting to see if the sales work out. Since Nissan said 40K MSRP base, which is still the 400hp motor, while Supra base is 43K, but with the 4 cylinder and still no stick.

    • @markmiller3279
      @markmiller3279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sigmaprojects I think it will totally wreck Supra sales. However, Toyota got away fairly cheaply on that project, so it may not matter much. I'm not entirely sold on the Z's retro styling, but think the Supra is just plain ugly and overstyled. At least the Z looks consistently retro.

    • @sigmaprojects
      @sigmaprojects 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markmiller3279 I think both look pretty good, especially in person. My only gripe about the Supra's styling is that it looks way too close to an Alfa Romeo with its proportions, like if it had the Alfa triangle nose at that pointed area everyone would instantly think it's a new Alfa 8C. I just have a hard time seeing the Japanese DNA. The FT-1 at least had the proportions of a Supra so it was that bit recognizable.
      Time will tell if Nissan crushes Supra sales.

  • @geoffvdw
    @geoffvdw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys have knocked this video out of the park. Bravo. I bought a 370Z figuring it wasn't worth waiting, I stand by that decision, and I'm really not that interested in the Z as a result. But hearing how Nissan's old guard have tamed some of the rough edges from the 370Z and put so much love into this car as part of a lifelong journey warms my heart and tickles my engineering gland at the same time. I wish it every success as a true driver's car.

  • @PsychoCPU
    @PsychoCPU 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I loved the conclusion. So many have confused the definition of a sports car with 60 and 1/4 mile times, when that couldn't be further from the truth. Where do you go with sports cars when EVs can decimate everything, or a 2L Accord can gap most "sporty" cars? You have to lean into what made sports cars great, which is the connection and the experience. It's taking it down a country road on a Sunday afternoon and just enjoying the drive, not worrying about how fast you get from red light to red light on a strip. It's not always about pure speed and I hate that we've gotten so far away from that.

    • @pleasedontwatchthese9593
      @pleasedontwatchthese9593 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But if those other cars offer that and better performance why would I go for less?

    • @PsychoCPU
      @PsychoCPU 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pleasedontwatchthese9593 Well, Miele vacuums offer everything a Dyson does with better performance, why doesn't everyone just by Miele vacuums? Just because something is technically better doesn't make it more desirable. Low to mid-range EVs like the model 3 or the base Mustang offer great straight line speed and good range, but sacrifice handling dynamics and performance. If you want to have brakes big enough that they don't overheat and fade after a couple hard stops or suspension that doesn't body roll over 5 degrees in a sharp corner, than you're gonna have to shell out for the performance variants, which are quite expensive.
      Not to mention, I could take this Z, or any similar sports car, to a track day and run it off and on all day long. If I took a Tesla I'd get about an hour of performance driving before it was both too hot and too discharged. If I took an Accord the brakes would be toast and I would probably be nauseous from the angular momentum of the body roll.
      Anything can become a performance vehicle, but what makes a car sporty and enjoyable isn't just power and speed. My most enjoyable car to drive over the last 25 years was a 91 240sx that had an LSD-swapped rear diff. Even after tuning it only made like 175Whp, but I could track that thing all day and never be dissatisfied. The Model 3 I tracked at an event in Atlanta on the other hand was fun for the first 10 minutes and then quickly became exhausting and disappointing when the battery started getting hot so it pulled power and the brakes became soggy sponges. It's all just perception, but for me, enjoyment in driving comes from the entire experience, not just the butterflies from acceleration.

    • @zoppp621
      @zoppp621 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      People are obsessed with straight line speed and not as much taking corners as fast as possible. This mentality might change as F1 gains viewership in the states.

    • @mogulme6190
      @mogulme6190 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pleasedontwatchthese9593 I enjoy a quick car but certain power levels is just overkill.

    • @sengvang3718
      @sengvang3718 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's why I still have my AP2 S2K. Not the fastest but the best driving experience when your in a back road going through the gear with the top down. In my opinion on the last pure driver's car Honda made.

  • @Tarmac76
    @Tarmac76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Thank you Nissan for still making a relatively affordable, rear wheel drive sports car with an internal combustion engine and manual transmission. That music at 27:12 made me sad, it reminded me how the days for cars like this are numbered. And they'll be gone within the next 10 years, so you gotta live in the present and enjoy each shift. Bravo guys, what a video!

    • @Tarmac76
      @Tarmac76 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Null I'm fine with them. You?

  • @onlinesearch4134
    @onlinesearch4134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    By far my favorite TH-cam car channel! You continue to raise the bar with cinematography, sound, and visuals. I love how you breakdown the history and show the passion for what car manufacturers still do for us diehards. I look forward to more videos like this. You guys do the best job detailing the mechanical aspects of the cars you review. I appreciate the good, the bad, and the ugly perspectives. Plus I dig the sense of humor and entertainment you provide along the way. You should think about “on the road series” of some private owner reviews where you get to drive and share the passion of your viewers as well. By far you would to the best job in showcasing not only cars provided to you by manufacturers but also car enthusiasts and collectors. Great job! Look forward to the next one.

  • @BrianFrichette
    @BrianFrichette 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Production value: 11/10
    Seriously.

  • @jdhazan
    @jdhazan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Thank you Mark and Jack for the incredible work you put out into the automotive universe. Your short films (Z, GT3, Lexus V8s/LFA, etc) will be a reference point for generations of enthusiasts

  • @vitaly6312
    @vitaly6312 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    For anyone bitching about this car:
    We are in the last days of manual input vehicles. Basically from here on out we’re getting hybrids and EVs and stuff that disconnects the driver from the machine.
    Sure, it’s not perfect, but you’ll miss stuff like this in a decade when everything offered is a boring hybrid - probably with a cvt.
    Enjoy these last days.

    • @tealruby1
      @tealruby1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      100%. The days of all new products like the 300z are long, long gone. This is an amazing effort in 2022.
      ESPECIALLY for a company on such shaky ground, it's honestly amazing we got a new Z at all.

  • @suserman7775
    @suserman7775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Kudos to the designer for making the car look great AND complying with the request to have some retro elements.

  • @anythingdiecast2880
    @anythingdiecast2880 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    As a GT86 owner, I truly believe the Japanese car community lives on with cars like Z, GR, and probably SI

    • @jmmch3358
      @jmmch3358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The best Japanese sport car: GTR

    • @vsm351
      @vsm351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jmmch3358 NO

    • @jacobs1047
      @jacobs1047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Rip STI

    • @TheRyansLion
      @TheRyansLion 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And the integra, which is controversial. But if it drives anything like the new Si it’s gonna be a good car if you ignore the integra name.

    • @entertained...
      @entertained... 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      CTR for the win.

  • @CDX7
    @CDX7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So why do people watch Doug Demuro when this channel exists? The level of effort and care put into these videos is on another level

  • @AriaLaurel
    @AriaLaurel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's so nice to see a video where the creators are on board to share the story with you. The results of that cooperation and all the skill and work you put into these videos creates something really special.

  • @caseynocher2158
    @caseynocher2158 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Mr. Geese and Jack are truly in their element here; wonderful breakdown of the new Z- with the good, bad, and indifferent.

  • @dawnpoint
    @dawnpoint 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I watched all the early reviews last night knowing they wouldn't even come close to answering all the questions that Savagegeese would. Boy was I right. This channel is unbeatable. Impeccable work as always, boys.

  • @huskysilverdog
    @huskysilverdog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Very well done. As the owner of a Z, I really appreciate this documentary.
    Cannot wait to drive the new iteration. Such a great car throughout its history.

  • @RousintheHouse
    @RousintheHouse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    What an amazing review. Your videos always go above and beyond when it comes to reviewing cars and this is no exception. I've been a fan of Z cars since I was a kid. I currently own a 350z and this may be the video that pushes me to get the new one.

    • @jackholmes8105
      @jackholmes8105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the kind words and donation. The new z all things considered is a very good car. If you love your 350 this imo improves on what the z is.

  • @oregonhighway
    @oregonhighway 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I haven't even gotten a third of the way through and I have to thank you for having an intelligent, articulate, yet aesthetically pleasing video. I watched another channel's review and after hearing the word nice for the 18th time... pretty sure I heard the word delightful, too 😄... I have no doubt that you will provide a thoughtful and informative video for grown ups. kudos!

  • @johnharper5437
    @johnharper5437 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Mark and Jack. Thank you. Your commitment and passion for this TH-cam segment and cars is general. Truly speaks to the gear heads out there like nothing else does. This was simply phenomenal.

  • @twowollyeight
    @twowollyeight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You all have done an amazing job providing a wholly different experience than other reviews of this car. Always appreciate your thoughts and the work you put into your videos.

  • @dielaughing73
    @dielaughing73 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    As a 370Z owner, I am really glad to hear all the improvements they made over that model. Everything you mentioned rang true, *especially* poor torque at low revs. I still feel it's a bit overpriced but perhaps I will get a used one in a few years. If I ever have the money one day to have one of these as a track toy, well...

    • @MrDehBoss
      @MrDehBoss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sadly it might be underpriced with they way things are going. Expect to see 20k markups on these.

    • @AlvinBrinson
      @AlvinBrinson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed on the price. They keep talking about the price point as if it's a budget option, but it ain't. I spent half as much on a very lightly used 124 Spider. $40k base is not inexpensive.

    • @dielaughing73
      @dielaughing73 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlvinBrinson in Australia it's $80k for what I assume is the top trim (we only get one). That's 56kUSD. The 370 was $57k but they were going for 50 last year. The most expensive Miata is about 57 while the cheapest is 40...

    • @pieflies
      @pieflies 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dielaughing73 $73k plus on-roads. The limited edition is $80k.

    • @pieflies
      @pieflies 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is more expensive than the 370, but you’re getting more. 6 N/A vs 6TT, better suspension, etc. It’s still cheaper than the Supra, and there aren’t many cars competing with it in a similar price range.
      Plus, everything is getting more expensive. Inflation is high now and recently and likely for the foreseeable future.
      It’s unfortunate but not unexpected, that it costs as much as it does.

  • @vbad128
    @vbad128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Intro alone gave me goosebumps... This is Top Gear level cinematography, production and interviews.. If I had one wish it would for Goose to go mainstream and make all kinds of bank doing this.. just amazing work team SG.

  • @povertyspec9651
    @povertyspec9651 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hit I-75 north of Tampa in my 370Z for a celebratory run today, in honor of this fantastic video. All hail glorious Nissan and thanks guys! 48,000 miles on the 370 so far. Drinks 1/8 quart of Redline 5W40 every 5,000 miles. Zero issues.

  • @brandonsever2576
    @brandonsever2576 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So far this is the only review I've watched of the Z, and I don't feel like I'm missing anything. Wonderful video, thank you

  • @Ciler1038
    @Ciler1038 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow. Please continue to do more videos like this. This sort of in depth review is what makes someone really care about a car and it's history. This is awesome!

  • @Tonybaggawalnuts
    @Tonybaggawalnuts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I never comment but I feel like I have to. The production quality and attention to detail that went into this is above and beyond any of your peers. You guys are incredible. Like others have said, you just keep topping yourself. Well done, fellas.

  • @ScreamiNarwhals
    @ScreamiNarwhals 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw this video alongside Demuro’s Z video on my feed, and went straight to this. And I don’t regret it.

  • @diz_-4167
    @diz_-4167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the reasons why I love this channel is you guys don't just do basic reviews, you make films. There is an element of art and style that goes even into the shortest of videos. I don't think Nissan or Polyphony Digital could have done a better job. Now I wait to test drive one or get my hands on one. The tail lights remind me so much of the 300ZX and there are so many elements that pay homage to each generation of Z car. As much as I dislike the sound of the VQ series at times, there aren't many cars outside of Porsches you can bang off the rev limiter, manual or auto, that take it and take it gracefully giving you every ounce of thrill you desire. Keep it up guys, keep it up. You sold me for sure. Now to just get my wife onboard but I'm sure she will be once we can test drive one together.

  • @greganpace
    @greganpace 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Re: Conclusions about having cars faster, but less connected. This has been my exact feelings on modern cars, with the exception of the new GR86 / BRZ. After driving one around for a few weeks back to back with the new WRX (which is an improvement on the VA, but overall still *fine*), the 86 is an absolute blast, and I wish more manufacturers would listen to these comments. I'd love to hear some notes comparing the two.

  • @earlmacmullin4688
    @earlmacmullin4688 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I absolutely loved this. The type of film that gives a true car guy a little tear at the end. Thank you.

  • @adamholcombe8847
    @adamholcombe8847 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That intro and prologue was...just....breathtaking. Wow.

  • @brandoneastman9710
    @brandoneastman9710 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dear Mr. Albaisa, I say this as someone who has never really been fond of Nissans, that IS the most beautiful car I’ve ever seen! Absolutely stunning! And, as always, fantastic work from Mark and Jack. Bar none, the most Premium, Best-in-Class productions!

  • @rbizla
    @rbizla 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video shouldn't be free to watch. Just unbelievable quality of production and auto journalism. Thank you SG!

  • @rgc517
    @rgc517 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I came looking for a review and got a piece of art. What a beautiful video. It's amazing what they have accomplished with this car. Yes, it does carry over a lot from the past gen, but man, this thing is a beauty. I would love to have 40K to burn, 'cause i would be buying this in a heartbeat. Keep up the good work Savagegeese!!!

  • @Centuri0n2013
    @Centuri0n2013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Excited for this car, could be one of the last greats of the tuner era

    • @Tinrs80
      @Tinrs80 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amen bro!💯

    • @mark-ui8lu
      @mark-ui8lu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doesn't have to be......Isn't this a democracy? The people like cars like this. Why would it stop? Sorry man made climate change is not real. LGB

    • @kallekas8551
      @kallekas8551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Could not agree more!

    • @C.I...
      @C.I... 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope the EV fad passes.

    • @Kazuki-sd6rh
      @Kazuki-sd6rh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@C.I... It hasn't even begun lol

  • @dannoyes4493
    @dannoyes4493 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Magnificent!!!
    I admit I had to watch some of the big-budget clown-shows before I watched Dr. Goose & Jack Stagnasty do their storytelling magic... You told a story of how & why and, as an owner of a Z32, I actually would want to go explore the new Z for myself. Unparalleled presentation. I now understand what Nissan is trying to achieve with this car. This was brilliant.
    This is why SavageGeese is the Beatles of automotive journalism and everybody else, regardless of the size of their budget, is the Fuggs;
    SavageGeese simply does things uniquely better.
    And the Z, for the money appears to be uniquely better as well.
    I cannot thank you enough for the work, the presentation, the thoroughness of it all. And to Nissan, thank you for letting us dream the dream.
    Awesome!!!

  • @BrendanEvan
    @BrendanEvan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Geez Nissan owes you guys big time for this video. What a flipping masterpiece/encyclopedia/documentary!

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