THE DAY BATMAN DIED

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  • The time has come, I've spoke before about how and why some of my favorite tv shows and movie series have ended...
    And now I'm here to talk to you about my all time favorite subject and where and when it all went wrong.
    The Day Batman Died.
    The Dark Knight is no stranger to movie going audiences... starting off strong with Tim Burton's iconic 1989 classic " Batman ".
    Following it's success, Tim Burton went further into his comfort zone when making the much darker " Batman Returns "
    But fans at the time weren't fond of such an outting ---
    The studio, hoping to revive the franchise --- brought in Joel Schumacher to try and lighten up the tone of the series as a whole.
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  • @VideojugadorIrritado
    @VideojugadorIrritado 2 ปีที่แล้ว +281

    "I always apologize for Batman and Robin"
    -George Soorry

    • @riverehrstien3712
      @riverehrstien3712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you.😊

    • @Basan614
      @Basan614 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You know I’m so glad that he actually cares let’s just hope he’s resting In piece

  • @kcjc
    @kcjc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +454

    Ironically George Clooney is the only live action movie Batman that didn’t kill or at least commit manslaughter

    • @vcihiethea
      @vcihiethea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      What about Gotham?

    • @Azazreal
      @Azazreal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Except the franchise :P

    • @GregOrCreg
      @GregOrCreg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Along with Adam West.

    • @kcjc
      @kcjc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@GregOrCreg Adam West turned a group of guys into antimatter, which is theoretically killing them

    • @GregOrCreg
      @GregOrCreg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@kcjc I don't recall, but wasn't it the villains who did that, and then when he tried to reconfigure them, he put them in the wrong bodies?

  • @UltraInstinctLink
    @UltraInstinctLink 2 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    Alfred and Bruce have a great conversation where Alfred gives one of my favorite quotes regarding Batman across any media in this movie;
    Bruce Wayne:
    Alfred, am I pig headed? Is it always my way or the highway?
    Alfred Pennyworth:
    Yes, actually. Death and chance stole your parents. But rather than become a victim, you have done everything in your power to control the fates. For what is Batman if not an effort to master the chaos that sweeps our world? An attempt to control death, itself?
    Bruce Wayne:
    But I can't, can I?
    Alfred Pennyworth:
    None of us can

    • @nerdtube8194
      @nerdtube8194 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Ok that one is good but still...

    • @UltraInstinctLink
      @UltraInstinctLink 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@nerdtube8194 It in no way makes up for the rest of the movie lol

    • @nerdtube8194
      @nerdtube8194 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UltraInstinctLink they why did you bring this up if it's that bad!

    • @UltraInstinctLink
      @UltraInstinctLink 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@nerdtube8194 The same reason Vee Infuso makes videos about Batman. I enjoy talking about the character and his stories with likeminded people.

    • @nerdtube8194
      @nerdtube8194 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@UltraInstinctLink I know the reason why and I too also enjoyed his videos.

  • @nymetsfan9121
    @nymetsfan9121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +313

    George Clooney was a better Bruce Wayne when he played Danny ocean in the ocean 11 trilogy

    • @UltraInstinctLink
      @UltraInstinctLink 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I'm picking up what you're putting down

    • @CorbCorbin
      @CorbCorbin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Better catwoman in Out of Sight 😄

    • @777superlightwater
      @777superlightwater 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Damn true

    • @seanbhoycfc4834
      @seanbhoycfc4834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah 👍 Personally, I always thought Clooney was a decent Bruce Wayne at least by By Batman and Robin Standards in a few scenes with Michael Gough's Alfred. Especially the sick bed scenes. Maybe it's just me but in a lighter hearted Batman movie Bruce realising that this may be it for him and his father figure. I like those scenes, they are heartfelt for. Michael Gough does his job as well as ever too. From Batman '89 to Batman and Robin Gough's Alfred was always worth watching no matter the decline in the movies.

    • @destinedforgreatness3030
      @destinedforgreatness3030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He has Bruce Wayne down I’ll give him that but Batman no

  • @TheDukeofMadness
    @TheDukeofMadness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    I've always thought of the Batman films as representing the eras of Batman's comics.
    Batman 1989 and Batman Returns 1992 - the 1930's and 40's. The comics then were dark and had some horror elements.
    Batman Forever - the 1950's - Not quite campy but some sci elements.
    Batman & Robin - the 1960's Campy, ridiculous pop art film.
    Batman Begins - the 1970's. A return to Batman's roots.
    The Dark Knight - the 1980's. Joker hits his stride as a murderous psychopath.
    Dark Knight Rises - The 1990's. The Batman as urban myth and uneven writing in his many comicbooks.

    • @PowerRangersLostGalaxyFanFilm
      @PowerRangersLostGalaxyFanFilm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Although Batman v. Superman by Zack Snyder is a teamup movie setting up his Justice League, what era best represent that though Superman, Wonder Woman, etc is in it?

    • @TheDukeofMadness
      @TheDukeofMadness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@PowerRangersLostGalaxyFanFilm 2000's. That's when the super team movie became the dejour thing.

    • @thoarnejones6805
      @thoarnejones6805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What a wonderful take.

    • @verynice7367
      @verynice7367 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is even more accurate now with the new Batman movie

    • @riverehrstien3712
      @riverehrstien3712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good point man I've always thought of it that way too.

  • @Vidar2814
    @Vidar2814 2 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    "Dude looks like a jacked up Pokémon" is officially my new favorite saying lmao

  • @LabrnMystic
    @LabrnMystic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    To add to the positives of the movie, it's the only Batman movie we got were Batman didn't kill his villains!
    Hell, there's even a spark of redemption for Mr freeze.

    • @Dalton_stuff
      @Dalton_stuff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      supposedly two face did survive his fall

    • @LibraGamesUnlimited
      @LibraGamesUnlimited 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Too bad everything else was such a horrible mess.

    • @LibraGamesUnlimited
      @LibraGamesUnlimited 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Dalton_stuff If we don't see it, it didn't happen. :)

    • @imp2247
      @imp2247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That's like saying "yeah, it's a turd. But at least it's solid, and not diarrhea."

    • @brandonspain12345
      @brandonspain12345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I just hate the dumb joke afterwards by Mr. Freeze of "Call me in the morning." It's like if the ending of Dark Knight had Gordon farting and ends with a awkward silence. It's the same issue I hate with the MCU movies, rather than taking a moment of seriousness, it's followed by a dumb quip and awkward silence.

  • @TurtleKingzxz
    @TurtleKingzxz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Ya know, growing up this was actually the Batman Film I watched over and over, and after growing up I see that it has is flaws but it'll always be special in my heart

    • @BK-sh2pn
      @BK-sh2pn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I watched this and Batman forever all the fucking time lol

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Bruce and Alfred's fireside chats were the best parts of Batman and Robin. Showed that no matter how much Batman does to defeat the villains of Gotham, Death itself can't be stopped.

    • @CorbCorbin
      @CorbCorbin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Unless one knows where a Lazarus pit is.

    • @seanbhoycfc4834
      @seanbhoycfc4834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      100% Agree. On Alfred's sick bed Clooney has his best moments as Bruce and Michael Gough was terrific as always. Those scenes from the quick flashback's to younger Bruce and Alfred and the Surrogate Father and Son lines as it looks like they don't have much time left together are very good Bruce and Alfred moments and there's no shortage of iconic moments between the 2. Best parts of the movie for me.

  • @michaelburke7978
    @michaelburke7978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +217

    I honestly feel that Clooney gets undeserved hate for Batman and Robin. The man had no control over the campy tone nor the script, and if you'd stick Keaton or Kilmer in this movie, they would get the same reception as well.
    Batman Triumphant sounded like it was going to be a massive improvement, since Joel Schumacher actually wanted to steer away from the over the top tone of B&R.
    Hell, I don't even blame Schumacher for the way Forever and B&R turned out. The man directed some amazing movies before and after his Batman movies; Warner Brothers were the ones that wanted a lighter tone due to Returns being so dark.

    • @ryankeefe6222
      @ryankeefe6222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Joel literally said that every step of the way WB would tell him to make everything toyetic

    • @syckles
      @syckles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I disagree, Clooney's acting was simply terrible. Arnold had a crap role and bad script, yet he made the most of it, and added some memorable parts to the film. Chris O'Donnell played the part of Robin fine as he did in the previous film. Clooney however was, "hi Freeze... Im Batman..." Keaton or Kilmer would have brought at least a little passion to the role, where Clooney was a worse performance than most Batman fan films.

    • @lookingforlove839
      @lookingforlove839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Val kilmer also had to deal with Joel Schumachers direction. He wasn't a good baan, but he was the best Bruce Wayne imo

    • @Wiki1184
      @Wiki1184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It always confuses me when actors get flak for some movies being bad. Like, people hated Andrew Garfield for the Amazing Spider-Man movies at the time, but he had no control over the issues those movies had.

    • @liveac3694
      @liveac3694 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yeah Schumacher is not really to blame. The studio asked him to make a child friendly, lighter tone Batman and Schumacher naturally turned to the classic Adam West series for inspiration. It also didn't help that Tommy Lee Jones, Alicia Silverstone, George Clooney, Nicole Kidman and Uma Thurman delivered their worst performances ever...

  • @ChrisSagem
    @ChrisSagem 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    There’s one huge problem with this movie that I feel you forgot to mention!
    And is probably the most unforgivable sin that this movie is guilty of ever having committed!
    They gave Batman… A BAT CREDIT CARD!!!

    • @genyakozlov1316
      @genyakozlov1316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You're a comedy genius!!!! *clap* *clap*

    • @sabrinabosworth3043
      @sabrinabosworth3043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      BRO FR

    • @NotAGoodUsername360
      @NotAGoodUsername360 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean think about it, wouldn't such a thing imply that Bruce has at least one bank that knows he's Batman?

  • @mrnygren2
    @mrnygren2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    "But fans at the time weren't fond of such an outting"
    This is false - fans loved Batman Returns in 1992, as it were the highest grossing movie of the summer that year - the mothers didn't like it and therefore didn't buy the toys - so Warner Brothers and Mc'Donalds lost a lot of money on unsold toys - that's why the new movie was more kid-friendly so that the parents would be more tolerant.

    • @JohnnyDollar720
      @JohnnyDollar720 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This is true

    • @KingdomHeartsBrawler
      @KingdomHeartsBrawler 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. A bunch of entitled Right-wing Karens destroyed one of the best onscreen depictions of Batman.

  • @Thepopcornator
    @Thepopcornator ปีที่แล้ว +15

    One scene I really do appreciate in this movie is at the end, when Batman has apprehended Mr. Freeze, and he has a real heart-to-heart conversation with him, appealing to the good man deep inside, resulting in Freeze giving him the cure for Alfred's disease. That's a legitimately lovely moment in this god-awful movie.

  • @maxhydekyle2425
    @maxhydekyle2425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm glad that Nolan clearly recognized how dirty they did Gordon and tried his best to make up for it. Gary Oldman's Gordon was absolutely perfect. In most other movies he'd be the standout performance, but there are just so many amazing performances in that trilogy that incredible ones like Oldman as Gordon and Eckhart as Harvey Dent, get overlooked most of the time.

  • @Dim4323
    @Dim4323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The late joel Schumacher once said.
    "If their anyone who say...love batman forever and went into batman and robin with great Anticipation....i just want to apologise that wasn't my intention, my intention was to entertain"

  • @justmisterp
    @justmisterp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Uma Thurman was very dramatic when she delivered this line. "As I told Lady Freeze when I pulled her plug; this is a one woman show" 🤣😂🤣

    • @BozeDoesGodsWork
      @BozeDoesGodsWork 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      To be fair poison Ivy was dramatic in the animated series. I just wish they gave Uma something to damn work with instead of corny sexual innuendoes.

  • @undeadhound3402
    @undeadhound3402 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    “I’m afraid that my condition has left me cold to your pleas of mercy”
    I admit, liked that one.

  • @andrewcozzini8259
    @andrewcozzini8259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Vee, I think the change in Robin's characterization might have to do with the fact that in "Batman Forever" Dick is on a revenge quest, trying to avenge his parents by killing, but then aprehending Two-Face. As such, he would be in a more serious frame of mind, as opposed to here, where more time has past since that tragedy and has in the interim bounced back a bit. Thereby, he could seem more boyish/easy-going than in his first outing. I may be reading to far into this, but I can see this possibily being the rational. Personally, I really liked Chris in "Forever" and still find his Robin one of the most enjoyable aspects here, along with Alfred, Barbara, and Freeze (sometimes in spite of himself).

  • @h_nt_r
    @h_nt_r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Honestly if Kilmer ever gets his voice back and fully heals from his throat cancer, we need to get him back into at least a voice acting role for an animated Batman movie.

    • @Lowkeylie
      @Lowkeylie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If there’s hope from Rob Paulsen…

  • @johngutierrez591
    @johngutierrez591 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I was 6 when it came out, and I loved it so much haha. RIP Joel Schumacher

  • @samkathryn4825
    @samkathryn4825 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I’d love to see more retrospectives on Batman film series, and other DC series too!

  • @wisconsinking323
    @wisconsinking323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    As much as I HATED George Clooney as Batman, I liked him as Bruce Wayne.

  • @frnknstndrgqn
    @frnknstndrgqn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    alfred is a precious angel who has done nothing wrong his entire life. The only scene that got me was when Alfred is laying on the couch dying and bruce says " i love you old man" and he says I love you too. I got teary eyed. lol

  • @SugarRayCharles.
    @SugarRayCharles. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    George basically played as himself in this movie. Can't imagine the level of his migraine pains from always bobbing his head.

  • @nicholaswolf2756
    @nicholaswolf2756 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The ending in Batman & Robin where he gets ivy, the pun there made sense and you could feel the anger, fury, and seriousness that Arny portrayed in the scene. And that’s about it for him as Freeze

  • @scolioreset
    @scolioreset 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think the only good moment, besides Alfred's, is Freeze making a Venus out of ice and turning it into Nora. This is the one time I can see that this is Victor Fries and not a baffoon in a refridgerator.

  • @Gh0stbumbles
    @Gh0stbumbles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Did Batman really die tho ? should be retitled the day Batman was put on ice .

    • @michaelburke7978
      @michaelburke7978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I see what you did there

    • @Mafon2
      @Mafon2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The day Batman got iced.

    • @genyakozlov1316
      @genyakozlov1316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What killed Batman?
      The Ice Age

    • @JessikaDarkstar
      @JessikaDarkstar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I. Like. That.

  • @ripeager9338
    @ripeager9338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    By the time this movie came out I was still trying to come to terms with how Bruce Wayne somehow adopted an adult!

  • @bradwhite5884
    @bradwhite5884 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Honestly, no hate on Joel, he too wanted to do a dark movie like what Tim Burton wanted, but studio is to blame for this, I was hoping the bring back Chris to play a more mature and gritty Robin/Nightwing for the Crisis crossover event to redeem that character, but who knows tbh, but a shame really tbh

    • @devontehuntley6274
      @devontehuntley6274 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I don't get why they got on Tim and Joel's case for making darker Batman movies, but then allowed Chris Nolan to make extremely dark and serious Batman movies. That made no sense. Batman Returns is really dark, but compared to Chris' movies, it looks like a kid's movie. So what did Chris do that got the studio to relax on him? Even when Joel lightened up the mood for Forever, the studio still didn't like the results and thus, B&R was lightened to the near extreme where the series was a parody of itself now. Just makes me wonder how well Joel could have truly done his movies if allowed to make them dark.

    • @ivanagustinortiz5237
      @ivanagustinortiz5237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@devontehuntley6274 I think it has to do something with Darren Aronofsky loosing up WB with his Batman Year One script, also they were as desperate to profit and return the character to his glory days like with Superman, so clearly if B&R doesn't work they would go on the complete opposite direction

    • @Shiirow
      @Shiirow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      the crisis event wasnt to redeem anything, they brought in some 'memberberries so they could kill off the universes so only the CW-verse mattered. which is quite possibly the worst timeline to survive.

    • @devontehuntley6274
      @devontehuntley6274 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ivanagustinortiz5237 That makes sense. Just a shame they couldn't take this sort of chance to begin with and thus spared the series from even getting to the direction it got with B&R. That had potential to be a really good movie. Just goes to show the studio need to back off and let the producers do their thing and just worry about putting the damn movie out. The studio tends to damage movies more than what it's worth and even now that's still the case.

    • @devontehuntley6274
      @devontehuntley6274 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Shiirow That whole crisis thing was just pathetic. Now these franchises can't continue because some TV thing wanted to play multi-verse and destroy things when they could have simply had their own universe and be done with it. No need to reference anything else. Gotham on FOX didn't do this referencing other Batman lore, so those CW shows could have done the same thing. That whole crisis thing was just mass complication and confusion and the results left some pretty good universes and shows buried in the ground. What a cheap way for them to go out.

  • @trumpet11able
    @trumpet11able 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The “Kissed by A Rose” reading at the end had me laughing my ass off. Thank You.

  • @Azazreal
    @Azazreal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I know this movie is bad.....i just dont care. I still love it. Its so campy and dumb, its just a fun movie. It might be a bad Batman movie sure but its still FUN. Especially for a kid, which I was when first seeing the movie so that bias has remained with me. Arnie as Mr Freeze with nonstop ice puns is just hilarious to me

  • @therecaster8512
    @therecaster8512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    “No sign of the snowman”
    “Maybe he melted”
    Okay that one was good

  • @veronicapomar6010
    @veronicapomar6010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I feel bad for George Clooney i know his Batman is terrible but poor guy he tried who wouldn’t wanna be Batman?

  • @kellennicholson4488
    @kellennicholson4488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    That moment when the AI generated batman comic still has better dialouge than this movie

  • @gregr3720
    @gregr3720 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    8:26 They took all the problems with O'Donnell's previous depiction of the character and they exacerbated them. Not exasperated.

  • @S31KO.
    @S31KO. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I love this movie, an absolute comedy masterpiece 😆

  • @actioncom2748
    @actioncom2748 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I always thought Joel was classy for apologizing. Particularly these days when most filmmakers give you the finger.

    • @genyakozlov1316
      @genyakozlov1316 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No one should ever apologize for what they made unless it reflects their old worldview they no longer subscribe to, but never because of quality, it's insulting to those who liked it, like me!

    • @crakatoot5480
      @crakatoot5480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@genyakozlov1316 yeah the makers of last jedi should have apologized

    • @dragondude9637
      @dragondude9637 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@genyakozlov1316 he apologised because he only wanted to entertain people, plus he wanted to make Batman gritty and dark but the studio and parents forced him to make it over the top childish.

    • @brandonspain12345
      @brandonspain12345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Barnaby Wentworth He said his original script had Mr. Freeze speaking in Shakespeare like dialouge similar to BTAS but was rewritten.

  • @dominickspano4231
    @dominickspano4231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It is sad because Poison Ivy and Mr. Freeze at my two favorite Batman villains. I actually felt Ivy wasn't bad in this film, but maybe I was distracted with her amazing looks. If your a straight man and have a pulse you get it lol.

    • @genyakozlov1316
      @genyakozlov1316 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not everyone is into the same types of women as you my dude. Just because someone is straight, doesn't mean they are automatically attracted to the same looks and body type as you.

    • @dominickspano4231
      @dominickspano4231 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@genyakozlov1316 Come on man its and express.

    • @mrnygren2
      @mrnygren2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, what made Uma good as Poison Ivy was that she was pretty darn sexy - I still always wanted her to have a darker role ala Catwoman from Batman Returns.

    • @dominickspano4231
      @dominickspano4231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mrnygren2 She was sexy as hell.

  • @brandonscott4808
    @brandonscott4808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The only thing I liked about Batman & Robin is the visuals of Gotham City.

    • @palereaper
      @palereaper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Even still Tim Burton’s Gotham city was the best one we’ve seen

    • @brandonscott4808
      @brandonscott4808 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@palereaper I don't know about that though because looking back at Tim Burton's Gotham City, we didn't really see much visuals of the city. At least with Joel Schumacher's Gotham City we're able to see every detail, especially with how Schumacher never uses the same street location unlike in the Burton films.

    • @palereaper
      @palereaper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@brandonscott4808 I mean yeah, but I just personally prefer the gothic look of Tim Burton's gotham. Especially with the huge, industrial buildings.

    • @isaacvargas3156
      @isaacvargas3156 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@palereaper I agree with the original comment and yours I like the Big gothic buildings, but also the big statues

  • @jordangifford6544
    @jordangifford6544 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When the batman character has a change of actor (Keaton to Kilmer etc, I like to think of the multiverse, with different iterations. Although Alfred would be a constant ha ha

  • @ZeroSA
    @ZeroSA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    First off, Robin WAS a real Dick. Grayson. But also thank you for being one of the few people I've seen who understand how mischaracterized Mr Freeze was. Everything he did was means to an end to get his wife back, he wasnt evil for evils sake he just did what he believed necessary. Hell, I 100% believe that if Bruce Wayne successfully funded Nora's recovery and told Freeze who he was that Freeze would likely be an ally to the bat family.

    • @russellj.s.257
      @russellj.s.257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dick Grayson acted more like Jason Todd and was sporting the Nightwing costume.

  • @jediknightmark3599
    @jediknightmark3599 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always good to see a new video from you Vee. Keep up the good work to entertain us fans.

  • @kellijones6481
    @kellijones6481 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m so glad how you mentioned that this movie pretty much ruined Chris O’Donnell’s career. It’s truly a shame as I feel he’s a great actor, and anyone who has seen Scent of a Woman knows what I’m talking about, Chris was able to hold his own alongside Al Pacino

    • @mr.wetdream5277
      @mr.wetdream5277 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not so bad. He is a cop on NCIS Los Angeles

  • @mcurran6505
    @mcurran6505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you do a video on Batman Begins I suggest you give it the title "The Day Batman Lives."

    • @rayzorduality2396
      @rayzorduality2396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Day Batman Lives... Again....
      Huh? Huh?

  • @StarWarriorCentral
    @StarWarriorCentral 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My favorite Batman movies are the odd-numbered ones in the '90s quadrilogy.
    No offense to Returns, though. I like the movie, but it's a mixed bag.
    Batman & Robin made me want to own the toy of the Bathammer vehicle that Batman took to fight Mr. Freeze towards the end. That car was awesome and MUCH cooler than the regular Batmobile he used throughout the rest of the film.

    • @amtraklover
      @amtraklover 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually had the Bathammer toy until a few years ago and you're right it was awesome

  • @sunnyjohnson992
    @sunnyjohnson992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Chris O’Donnell said that Batman Forever felt like a “real movie,” whereas Batman & Robin felt like a “toy commercial!” 😂

  • @zacharyscott6779
    @zacharyscott6779 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Victor Freeze is my favorite Batman villain and I admit they completely botched his character in this film. But my friends and I laugh NON STOP at good ol Arnie and his ice puns. "Tonight's forecast... A FREEZE!" "FREEZE IN HELL BATMAN!!!!" Stuff like that is where Arnie can be so funny.
    And Uma Thurman as Poison Ivy was hot as hell in some scenes. (When she first awakens after being "killed" in her lab. And her dance after ditching the monkey outfit.) Cmon. Cmonnnnnnn we all know.
    Otherwise yeah this film sucks hahahaha.

  • @benjamin6194
    @benjamin6194 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Dr. Woodrue?" The mad scientist who pushed Ivy into the chemicals was named after the mad scientist with plant powers from Alan Moore's Swamp Thing? Interesting. I find it odd anyone making this movie would even know about that character.

  • @joeker5208
    @joeker5208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’d still watch this over BvS

    • @motherplayer
      @motherplayer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'd still watch BvS over this.

    • @joeker5208
      @joeker5208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@motherplayer you can have your opinion
      …………as long you know it’s a poor choice

    • @motherplayer
      @motherplayer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joeker5208 I could say the same for you, but let's agree to disagree eh?

    • @genyakozlov1316
      @genyakozlov1316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd rewatch both over the Dark Knight. Except for Joker that "masterpiece" bored me, even the action scenes. Worst Batman movie by far.

    • @joeker5208
      @joeker5208 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@genyakozlov1316 if you think the movie was “boring” then I can already tell how old you are

  • @brockenglish7602
    @brockenglish7602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    David Hyde Pierce would have made a perfect 90s Mr. Freeze.

  • @riotd.r.8363
    @riotd.r.8363 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So... are we gonna talk about how R. Kelly sang about how awesome Gotham City is?

    • @GregOrCreg
      @GregOrCreg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Makes you wonder about the crimes Batman should have been looking into...

  • @emekoo1027
    @emekoo1027 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had this masterpiece on VHS as a kid. Luckily I lost it pretty soon.

  • @taylordavis7694
    @taylordavis7694 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    enjoying batman forever certainly helps with watching this one

  • @DrakeKnight99
    @DrakeKnight99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    B&R Bane looked like how Bane should but Hardy's Bane was how he was supposed to be but looked nothing like him. It pisses me off to no end because Bane is my top favorite character

  • @arctmensilva7491
    @arctmensilva7491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    so much great content as of late.

  • @barnes9070
    @barnes9070 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video appreciate the great content

  • @metalmonster34
    @metalmonster34 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a kid watching this in theaters with my brother and dad, I thought it was perfect. We watched it so much on vhs and didn't think it was bad.
    As an adult, I can see why it's bad, but I swear that at age 33, my friends and I can watch this, laugh and enjoy Arnie and his puns over some beers.

  • @countdooku1610
    @countdooku1610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ive been looking forward to this

  • @blckotaku5250
    @blckotaku5250 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was looking for this channel for. A long ass time

  • @LibraGamesUnlimited
    @LibraGamesUnlimited 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Frankly, I've always found Clooney kind of wooden and incapable of emoting to save his life. I remember a bit from "American Dad" where Francine points out that he has a signature movie, "he looks down, looks up and delivers his line". Something like that.
    That whole killing off the villains thing was really weird. With Joker, it was in his contract but I don't know why the other movies always had two villains and, at least one of them, always died. I have no idea why.

    • @axebomber2108
      @axebomber2108 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's not so weird if you consider the context of the times. The Batman movies were essentially action movies, and action movies of the 80s and 90s often ended with the villain either falling to his or her death or being shot by the protagonist.

    • @LibraGamesUnlimited
      @LibraGamesUnlimited 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@axebomber2108 I guess, I was never really into pure action movies. I only watched them when they had some twist like if they were action sci-fi or something.
      The whole burned out, borderline, shoot first and ask questions later cop taking out scores of bad guys and whatnot never really thrilled me.
      I guess it also makes sense if you're working from the idea that you're only going to make so many so you're unlikely to have any villains return. :)

    • @Ironcabbit
      @Ironcabbit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that would make Clooney a great Perry Mason.

  • @michaelclark173
    @michaelclark173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I had such a super crush on Chris O'Donnell, i loved this movie just bc it allowed me to see more of him. I didn't even care about anyone else. Oh and i think that bane is more accurate than dark knight rises one.

  • @larrypoppins6273
    @larrypoppins6273 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My god, I can't believe you actually got the Arkham cast on cameo, so awesome. And might I add, you're not my least favorite youtuber, keep being awesome vee, love you.

  • @ryankeefe6222
    @ryankeefe6222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    There’s on TH-cam a making of of this movie and it’s actually funny the whole thing is basically everyone involved apologizing

  • @drewb3665
    @drewb3665 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you please do a video ranking all the villains from every Batman movie? From your least favorite to your favorite.

  • @mamamina0095
    @mamamina0095 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Joel Schumacher made the fist live action killing joke, it's called "Falling down"

  • @ChidorivsRasengan3
    @ChidorivsRasengan3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fact that you made references to Batman XXX and Justice League XXX is just astonishing…you earned a new subscriber 😂😂😂

  • @shaggytheshaman
    @shaggytheshaman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Actually, Batman is still wildly popular and really good.

    • @briandavid7849
      @briandavid7849 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He said in the video "Almost killed batman." And define really good. Affleck sucks

    • @alejandrovillalba3143
      @alejandrovillalba3143 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@briandavid7849 He's got the best Batman action scenes in movie history though. Unlike Bale's which was painful to watch when fighting

    • @briandavid7849
      @briandavid7849 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alejandrovillalba3143 yes I'm aware. But to me batflack is all action and no substance.

  • @brianpbillingsley3687
    @brianpbillingsley3687 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vee.....You sound like Hank Venture and that makes me smile. Kudos!

  • @bigdadddyd123
    @bigdadddyd123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good content V-Dawg

  • @HkFinn83
    @HkFinn83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Clooney was actually my favorite performance by an actor in a superhero movie. Maybe not as memorable as ledgers joker but more long lasting and much more screen time

  • @nymphrodellsalavin
    @nymphrodellsalavin ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the song reading at the end 😂

  • @geordie170101
    @geordie170101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thurman and Glover knew exactly what the movie wanted from them...they are the only things i don’t hate about it. Their acting was perfect...for this...and it was scene chomping glory!

  • @user-cv8qe9ru8c
    @user-cv8qe9ru8c ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really gotta love George Clooneys attitude for the film. Guess it's easier to talk about given he didn't really kill the franchise.

  • @JG31392
    @JG31392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Batman and Robin: the day Batman died
    Batman Begins: the day Batman was reborn

  • @dustywaynemusic6297
    @dustywaynemusic6297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've seen this movie a few dozen times and I still forgot the fiance subplot and yes I was trying to remember her name while you were talking. And yes I already forgot it. Is it Julie Madsen or Madison? Good video 👍

  • @sh0nen_protag
    @sh0nen_protag 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have to disagree about Uma Thurman's Ivy, I really like her portrayal

    • @mentalphilanthropist35
      @mentalphilanthropist35 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      A fair point to make would be at least she tried something and throughout the movie the character is consistent. That being said I felt most of the movie was either miss cast or misused. But at least she tried, she could have phoned it in like other cast members.

    • @mrnygren2
      @mrnygren2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mentalphilanthropist35 She was like my first love so yes I liked Uma as Poison Ivy.. She was hot and sexy.. I always wished she'd been cast in a Burton-movie instead.

  • @poochersmontgomery8825
    @poochersmontgomery8825 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always liked to think this movie was about George Clooney asking Bruce Wayne if he could be Batman for a weekend.

  • @sponkmcdonk
    @sponkmcdonk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This, is how it happened. This, is how the Batman died.

  • @astronaut8917
    @astronaut8917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Batman and Robin is one of the funniest movies I've ever seen. Non stop entertainment and laughter for the whole run time

  • @nickalexander3755
    @nickalexander3755 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One of the things I actually do love about this movie is the practical effects, the set design, the spectacle. It all feels like this elaborate stage performance and it is a joy to watch play out on scene. Some of it feels like I'm going through an amusement park ride and it's awesome.
    What I don't like is that Robin was a real Dick...Grayson.
    Still hot as fuck tho DC I'm begging you give me a Nightwing movie starring Chris O'Donnell we need it I know the man is like 50 but he's still hot okay give me daddy Nightwing it's important to me

  • @TrueBlueMajikDewd
    @TrueBlueMajikDewd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You know why we went through several Spider-Man's real quick right? Sony legally has to make a movie every 3 years. That's why Venom, that's why Morbius, that's why Into The Spider-Verse. They're not going to take time off and throw the cash cow into the fire. That's corporate suicide.

  • @gredrup
    @gredrup 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw this In the cinema, there was an issue with the film and it stopped 2/3 of tj way in and we all got our money back. Boy was I lucky.

  • @davidhartding800
    @davidhartding800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This Review was Cold as Ice.

  • @WickedCool23
    @WickedCool23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For what I could gather from interviews, Schumacher was never a comic fan. His sole exposure to Batman was the ‘66 tv series (which he loved), so the films he made were an attempt to capture that campy energy, completely tone deaf to the modern zeitgeist

  • @andrewcozzini8259
    @andrewcozzini8259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes! More Vee talkin' Batman! Imma be honest.....I really don't hate this one. Don't get me wrong there are aspects that I (along with the rest of fandom) don't care for (George Clooney in the role, Bruce's fiancé?, etc.), but as far as not great movies go, I think it's mostly harmless and even a little fun, when you take it for what it is. Personally, I always enjoyed the "Bat-family" aspect to this movie (which is worth a few brownie points in my book), as it's still the only live-action Batman film to tackle that part of the Batman mythos. At the end of the day, it's definitely a mixed bag, but it at least managed to be an iconic and memorable part to the Batman cinematic canon and leagues better than the worst DC movies, like Superman III and (less so) IV and "Catwoman" (which, imo, is technically the worst film in this series.) Anyways, fun thorough analysis, Vee! Always enjoy your takes!

  • @captaingeneroddenberry8439
    @captaingeneroddenberry8439 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yeah I can see Alfred have more screen time and lines. Seeing that is a positive no matter how bad Batman and Robin were

  • @AnimatedTerror
    @AnimatedTerror 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly I’ve always thought (most) of the one liners could work but not when they’re all back to back to back to back.

  • @ChiefManny1
    @ChiefManny1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Charles Dance would make an awesome Mr Freeze! If WB/DC ever decided to bring him back.

  • @Tomahwk7
    @Tomahwk7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "This is how it happened, this is how the Batman died."

  • @blujaebird
    @blujaebird 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would have been cool if TH-cam notified me of this video, I have the bell turned on -_-

  • @bogib8113
    @bogib8113 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have always liked their ending costumes. The white mixed is I always thought looked cool. But the fact George made a bigger career after Batman then he had before is really good on him and shows how good of an actor is. I did like this movie when I was a kid but I watched it recently and omg it was horrible.

  • @Basan614
    @Basan614 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Robins whole conflict is this movie
    Batman stopped him from kissing Ivy

  • @MrExplodinGuy
    @MrExplodinGuy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good vid. Through all of Batman and Robin's bickering I sided with Robin. Batman lost me with the motor cycle jump argument. Any jump that a car can make, a motor cycle can make easier. Batman was wrong, Robin was right. Batman should have known better. I was team Robin the rest of the movie after that.

    • @tfp2390
      @tfp2390 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      😁😁
      Ofc he could make the jump.
      This was meant to further illustrate how Bruce didnt trust anyone and deep down was afraid to lose anyone else he'd grown close to. Also show robin was just stubborn to a fault.

  • @mattas91
    @mattas91 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omfg, this ending... Omg... I'm dying
    38:18
    Badadada, lmafo "I compare you to a kiss from a rose on the grey oo"

  • @Roman_officialmusic
    @Roman_officialmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If not I’m not mistaken, I might be wrong. But I believe the 2nd movie was titled “Batman Returns” is because it takes place like a year or some months after the events of the first film and he was inactive.

  • @EarthboundX
    @EarthboundX 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, your sub count has really climbed. Think the last time I was here you had under 20K.

  • @nobleskywalker4639
    @nobleskywalker4639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And yet this is the only live action cinematic version of Batman that doesn't kill anybody. Keaton killed, val, killed, bale killed and affleck killed.

  • @repussified
    @repussified 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    -It's too bad Joel Schumacher went to his grave thinking he screwed up B&R by trying to make it campy. He screwed up B&R by giving it no consistent tone and incompetently trying to mix light-heartedness and drama.
    -But to give credit where credit is due, it did a solid job depicting the basic concept of Poison Ivy.
    -A few years later we got another sequel where one of the main characters acted like an incessantly-whining sidekick. It was called Star Wars Episode II.

    • @shadowleon659
      @shadowleon659 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not Schumacher's fault for why the movie was terrible. It is the fault of WB. Because Joel wanted to make B&R serious but the douchebags at Warner Bros screwed him over to make a two hour toy commercial instead. Don't believe me:
      - The ice puns (executive meddling)
      - The goofy, campy and otherwise silly tone (executive meddling)
      - Bane being in the movie for no reason other than fan service (executive meddling)
      - Casting Arnold Schwarzenegger as Mr Freeze instead of Patrick Stewart (executive meddling)
      - The Batman Credit Visa Card (executive meddling)
      - The vehicles and gadgets designed to look like toys (executive meddling)
      - Catering to kids and alienating adult audiences (executive meddling)
      Everything you hate this film for is the result of Studio Interference and please stop jumping on the "It's Schumacher's fault for why Batman and Robin is a travesty" bandwagon. And hey atleast Mr Schumacher had apologised to the angry fans.

  • @duhduh666
    @duhduh666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bored Man & Butt Boy would be a good alternate title for Batman & Robin. The Venture Bros episode Handsome Ransom summarized the essence of the characters well.

  • @christopherballero866
    @christopherballero866 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2003-2007 TV really helped the hero genre with: Teen Titans, Ninja Turtles, & Avatar. Schulmaker really had a tough tasks having to follow the Burton Batman movies. If George Clooney did porn really early in his career he'd probably be prouder of that than being Batman

    • @axebomber2108
      @axebomber2108 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Justice League, Smallville?