Joseph Ryelandt - Symphony No.4 in E-flat minor, Op.55, WW 111 "Credo" (1913)

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    Joseph Ryelandt (7 April 1870 -- 29 June 1965) was a Belgian classical composer.
    Work: Symphony No.4 in E-flat minor, Op.55, WW 111 "Credo" (1913) first performed in 1960.
    Mov.I: Largo - Allegro 00:00
    Mov.II: Andante sostenuto 12:53
    Mov.III: Lento - Moderato, ma con moto 24:13
    Mov.IV: Finale (Credo) 30:03
    Chorus: Koor Novecento & Musica Flandrorum
    Orchestra: Het Symfonieorkest van Vlaanderen
    Conductor: Fabrice Bollon
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  • @Paul-iv9mt
    @Paul-iv9mt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A shot in the dark- never heard of him- mainly to look at the picture! But what a treat. TH-cam is one of the best things in life and at 77 it has broadened my music experience at a time that I thought I had heard it all. Thanks.

  • @donaldferguson734
    @donaldferguson734 6 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I am so grateful to you and several other You Tubers for sharing these wonderful works so unjustly missing in our concert halls.

    • @janiceconnett3192
      @janiceconnett3192 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks to Classical Masterpieces on my Music Choice on TV I have found this and other great works that are no longer available on CD, or too expensive to purchase.

    • @hom2fu
      @hom2fu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      missing on the radio. Sublime

    • @Acujeremy
      @Acujeremy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@janiceconnett3192 HAHA That is where I found out about this piece too.

  • @warrenabeshouse1230
    @warrenabeshouse1230 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    A most enjoyable and unjustly neglected work from a compose I was unaware of. It's a wonderful performance.

  • @alancrabb
    @alancrabb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    If my arithmetic is right, this was first performed when the composer was 90, forty seven years after it was composed and five years before his death. Let's hope he got to hear it.

    • @jvanacker
      @jvanacker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Joseph Ryelandt was present in 1960! I'm born in Brugge 1940 and I met him sometimes during a concert

    • @JaxYTB
      @JaxYTB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jvanacker Wow that's super cool! Can you tell us more?

    • @jvanacker
      @jvanacker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@JaxYTB Thank you. It has been so long ago, and I was only 20 years old, too timid to contact an old wise man. I knew where he lived and that he was a very aristocratic man. A young conductor from Bruges has performed works by Ryelandt together with a Bruges orchestra and choir. Maybe he can provide more information: th-cam.com/video/ZfzOfZFmhmk/w-d-xo.html

    • @JaxYTB
      @JaxYTB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jvanacker thank you for sharing. I'll be sure to check it out!

    • @janiceconnett3192
      @janiceconnett3192 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jvanacker Thank you, you are a treasure of information yourself!

  • @ronaldbwoodall2628
    @ronaldbwoodall2628 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    It was wonderful to just sit back, relax and bathe my ears in this ultra-Romantic, ultra-dramatic symphony of sound and emotion. I've discovered yet another unjustly neglected Belgian composer (they seem to be generally as interesting as they are elusive). This work had to wait 47 years to be performed - why? It has character, heartfelt beauty, and immediate appeal, even though written in a comfortably conservative style. Rheinberger came to mind, and J. S. Bach, and astonishingly enough, in spirit and lyricism it resembles the symphonies of George Lloyd (I know, I'm really going off the deep end here). I only wish I knew the text used; I'll certainly be investigating Ryelandt further now!

    • @ClassicMusicVidsUSA
      @ClassicMusicVidsUSA หลายเดือนก่อน

      I hope you'll get this reply. The text from the finale is the "Credo" from the traditional Latin mass as was used universally by the Roman Catholic Church until the late 1960s and early 1970s.

    • @ronaldbwoodall2628
      @ronaldbwoodall2628 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the info re.the text! Better 6 years late than never!

  • @DeeYaiU
    @DeeYaiU 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thank you yet again KuhlauDilfeng4 for uploading another fine work. On first hearing it I loved it so much I had to play it again (and again) to make sure I wasn't over reacting. It seems strange that it was not performed until 50 years after it was composed and at an age of 89. I read somewhere that his symphonies were not rated highly that can't be true of this one maybe the critic concerned was having a bad day! In the context of 1910 it would probably considered old-fashioned, but hey I love old-fashioned particularly his scoring for the horns, sheer magical. Until I found this, by complete happenchance, I had never heard of Joseph Ryelandt, now I am going to dig deeper.
    Thank you again KuhlauDilfeng4, keep up the good work.

  • @moisessimoesmoreira9938
    @moisessimoesmoreira9938 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A delicious composition! Awsome choice. Congrats mate!

  • @frankburrows9850
    @frankburrows9850 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It's always pleasing to come across a neglected classic.
    Thanks for uploading.

  • @andrewgoldstein5633
    @andrewgoldstein5633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a lovely symphony, pleasurable from start to finish. Thanks for posting it!

  • @foveauxbear
    @foveauxbear 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I particularly love the splendid "fugetta" at around 26 minutes.

  • @RudolfKooijman
    @RudolfKooijman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Prachtig.

  • @kieranrichmond5864
    @kieranrichmond5864 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Mind-blowingly good! All the more astonishing that I'd never knowingly heard it before finding it on this TH-cam channel. Thanks very much for posting.

  • @classicalmusic229
    @classicalmusic229 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Probably my favourite Belgian composer! This is my second-favourite symphony, as my favourite is Bernard Zweers' 3rd symphony.

  • @bowerdw
    @bowerdw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My listening list grows. This has been added to it.

  • @ericmoninpianocomposer5454
    @ericmoninpianocomposer5454 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This symphony is incredible! I have no words to describe it! Thanks a lot for sharing

  • @ericmarguet4892
    @ericmarguet4892 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Il y a de véritables "pépites" à découvrir parmi les compositeurs qui ne font pas (encore) partie des classiques du classique. C'est là une très belle oeuvre d'inspiration romantique servie par un orchestre visiblement motivé

  • @12corners
    @12corners 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Full-on symphony. You know it's going to be good with the "surprise" oboe solo at the climax of the 1st mov.

  • @joachim590
    @joachim590 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Merci, KuhlauDilfeng4 pour nous faire connaître cette superbe symphonie de ce compositeur si peu connu. Mais attention, cette symphonie n'est pas en si mineur (B minor), mais en mi bémol mineur (Es minor)

  • @giuseppedimarco8358
    @giuseppedimarco8358 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great! Music! Amazing! How come we don't play it in the Symphonic halls! its Ashame!

  • @UKISOCIETY
    @UKISOCIETY 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow, really enjoyed this one. The finale gave me chills!

  • @gabrieru1983
    @gabrieru1983 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    such a beautiful symphony

  • @GaryLachman
    @GaryLachman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another remarkable discovery.

  • @davebarclay4429
    @davebarclay4429 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perhaps not one of the world's great lost symphonic masterpieces but a hugely enjoyable work by a composer who is new to me. Big thanks yet again to KuhlauDilfeng4

  • @abbalillie6382
    @abbalillie6382 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The opening is excellent

  • @MrYoumitube
    @MrYoumitube ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much. Wow, this andante is so beautiful and uplifting.

  • @rrbold
    @rrbold 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Meanwhile, our local orchestra (the Detroit Symphony Orchestra) puts on another season filled with works by Beethoven, Stravinsky, Mahler, et al, which are fine works, but which they have performed many many times before. At least Neeme Jarvi brought us less commonly performed Baltic music. Now it is all popular all the time in the desperate search for audiences. Bah!

    • @andrewpetersen5272
      @andrewpetersen5272 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I share your frustration here in Kansas City! What I wouldn't give to hear something like this or Parry or Anthiel performed live!

  • @theSvarg
    @theSvarg ปีที่แล้ว

    That opening is brilliant.

  • @MegaCirse
    @MegaCirse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Music is good when it arouses an emotion or a mood within you. it's not necessarily about being melodic, religious or overtly musical, but about carrying the listener somewhere where he was not before. In this case, I feel like sitting on a park bench by a warm evening. the wind gently caresses my face, and everything is silent except for the nature around me. It is interesting that I mention that it evokes the silence when I speak of this kind of music.

  • @benoitvogel8946
    @benoitvogel8946 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    splendide hermoso phantastich fantastric meravigliosa

  • @eric_lander
    @eric_lander 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is an absolutely brilliant work of art and the performance is magnificent. 19:38 24:15

  • @anandsamuel1978
    @anandsamuel1978 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is amazing stuff!! Real good!

  • @abbalillie6382
    @abbalillie6382 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is my new favorite

  • @galas062
    @galas062 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you....

  • @migves540
    @migves540 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Genial sinfonía.

  • @bomcabedal
    @bomcabedal 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    44:59 and on seems a clear musical reference to the (then) Dutch anthem, "Wien Neerlands Bloed". I can't imagine that's a coincidence, especially from a Ghentian composer.

  • @ramakrishnademeester1439
    @ramakrishnademeester1439 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Heerlijke muziek.

  • @jboushka
    @jboushka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's like a Brahms symphony (oddly with touches of Mendelssohn, like Sym #2), with a choral and somewhat fugal finale. The third movement is a bit strange, how it transitions at the end.

    • @minka866
      @minka866 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You mean second movement? It reminds Brahms clarinete quintet

  • @labelcypres
    @labelcypres 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Un enregistrement du label Cypres, ce serait bien de le mentionner!

  • @aramkhachaturian8043
    @aramkhachaturian8043 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such tragedy in the opening bars of this symphony. A deep cut sorrow in the composers soul.

  • @freepagan
    @freepagan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg. Nice!

  • @allenspencer6434
    @allenspencer6434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you woderful musk

  • @amadeusforever1
    @amadeusforever1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    C'est magnifique !!!
    Très belle orchestration !

  • @josealexandreferreiradacos193
    @josealexandreferreiradacos193 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sibelius? Richard Strauss ? Vaugham Williams ? Something is mingling here. Very interesting result but a good enigma do decipher...

  • @jamesbarlow6423
    @jamesbarlow6423 ปีที่แล้ว

    Impressive. Wonder what the 1960 audience thought at the premiere of this 1913 piece!

  • @obduliorincon6112
    @obduliorincon6112 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The essence of Ryelandt"s.soul is God. And this may be a transcendental reflection in his output.
    🎧

  • @syafiqp
    @syafiqp 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where can I find his other symphonies?

  • @LucasHagemans
    @LucasHagemans 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    6:26 Bruckner

  • @rogernortman9219
    @rogernortman9219 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A new find for me. A little depressing but worth listening to his other symphonies. Definitely had something musical to say. The only Belgian composer I really know is Vieuxtemps and he's totally Romantic.

    • @gwilymprice4442
      @gwilymprice4442 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Depressing? The first movement, perhaps, but overall I couldn't imagine a Symphony in E-Flat minor being any less depressing.

  • @filipmakos1515
    @filipmakos1515 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone knows, what do they sing in the second part?

  • @Protonixum
    @Protonixum 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Le sacre du printemps fut joué cette année là !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @torbjornfrid.4062
    @torbjornfrid.4062 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Underbar musik!

  • @LucasHagemans
    @LucasHagemans 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    32:35 Credo in unum Deum,
    33:15 Patrem omnipotentem, factorem caeli et terrae,
    33:47 visibilium omnium et invisibilium.
    34:12 Et in unum Dominum, Iesum Christum,
    34:22 Filium Dei unigenitum,
    34:34 et ex Patre natum ante omnia saecula.
    34:48 Deum de Deo, Lumen de Lumine,
    34:58 Deum verum de Deo vero,
    35:20 genitum non factum, consubstantialem Patri;
    35:37 per quem omnia facta sunt.
    36:03 Qui propter nos homines et propter nostram salutem
    36:27 descendit de caelis.
    37:10 Et incarnatus est de Spiritu Sancto ex Maria Virgine,
    37:53 et homo factus est.
    38:40 Crucifixus etiam pro nobis, sub Pontio Pilato passus et sepultus est,
    40:37 et resurrexit tertia die, secundum Scripturas,
    40:49 et ascendit in caelum,
    41:08 sedet ad dexteram Patris.
    41:14 Et iterum venturus est cum gloria, iudicare vivos et mortuos,
    41:41 cuius regni non erit finis.
    42:19 Et in Spiritum Sanctum, Dominum et vivificantem,
    42:42 qui ex Patre Filioque procedit.
    42:54 Qui cum Patre et Filio simul adoratur et conglorificatur: qui locutus est per prophetas.
    43:49 Et (in) unam, sanctam, catholicam et apostolicam Ecclesiam.
    44:25 Confiteor unum baptisma in remissionem peccatorum.
    44:41 Et exspecto resurrectionem mortuorum,
    45:29 et vitam venturi saeculi.
    46:39 Amen.

  • @peterbuckley265
    @peterbuckley265 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    IT IS REDICULOUS WHEREAS LOTS OF ORCHESTRAL MUSIC IS WRITTEN IN THE 21ST CENTURY, LITTLE OF WHICH IS OF ANY WORTH AND SO MOST IS NOT WORTH LISTENING TO, AS IT IS MOSTLY SOUNDS LIKE A CAT ON A TIN ROOF. BUT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF EXCELLENT WORKS FROM THE 19TH AND 20TH CENTURIES ARE MOSTLY UNFAIRLY UNPLAYED IN CONCERT HALLS, AS IT IS UNKNOWN BECAUSE IT IS UNJUSTLY NEGLECTED, DESPITE BEING EXTREMELY WORTHWHILE.

    • @bomcabedal
      @bomcabedal 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks for the capitals, I guess. In fact, I find that today's "art music" is generally much more diverse, and easier to listen to than the dogmatic serialism of the 1950s and 1960s.

    • @darrylschultz9311
      @darrylschultz9311 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I always thought the expression was-"Cat on a HOT tin roof"!?

  • @rogerantonybennett5272
    @rogerantonybennett5272 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Clear mystified image seems to match bold'n'brazen OTT score. Very fruity !

  • @patrickstults3132
    @patrickstults3132 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always relate dates to what other composers are doing. Mahler was already dead when this piece was written. Sibelius's 4th had already been written. Very good work, beautiful in many ways but not revealing no new musical ideas.

  • @eduardoxavier3005
    @eduardoxavier3005 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a boring and noisy music. Apocaliptic.