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- 63 MPH Coleman CT200U-EX gets a juggernaut
Installed a juggernaut driver on the Predator 212 powered Coleman CT200U-EX minibike Compared the Juggernaut driver to a standard 30 series driver.
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Parts used -
ARC.020 billet rod - www.arcracing.com/6256-billet...
Slipstream billet flywheel - www.ebay.com/itm/114943391073
GX 160 head - www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01...
265 Rev Pro cam - www.ebay.com/itm/113730944011...
224MM Flat slide carburetor - www.gopowersports.com/24mm-fl...
Header pipe - www.gopowersports.com/header-...
Juggernaut driver www.gopowersports.com/super-3...
Torque converter - www.ebay.com/itm/224386815936
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I found your channel back around the time you also got your Coleman. Keep up the content. TH-cam is a long game, you got this
Thank you! I'll try and keep it going.
@@Black66 wassup do a comparison with omb warehouse tork zilla and gopowersports juggernaut
@@pbedrookI was thinking how the 2 compares to each other like are they the same thing just different name since they are sold by different company or if they are different
I learn so much from you man thank you alot I got into mini bikes watching your videos 💪.
I appreciate that. Thank You! Thank you for watching the videos.
3.30 is quick man, thats a great driver!
This man is so cool and original. I'll rather watch this channel instead of carsandcameras or red beard garage.
WOW ! Thanks for the kind words.
Agree, you have a good style.
This comment deserves 10,000 likes wow SO true
Awesome content Black66! Just picked up my U-EX. Definitely going to mod my 212 after this.
Thanks! Ya, this bike Rips for a big bike.
Love the vids, dude. I just got a Trailmaster with a defective rear sprocket so I'm swapping it with a Coleman sprocket when I get a newer chain. Also I know this next thing is somewhat off topic but it'd be cool when and if someone started producing actual transmissions for these bikes. My MB200 could really use a 3-speed with the sidecar I plan to build for it.
Thanks! A transmission would be awesome!
Black66 The Juggernaut Is My Favorite Driver. I Even Put One On My Little Rascal
I’d like to see what happens if you drop the rear sprocket a few teeth
Oh yeah! That 24mm flat slide is where it's at! But like you have shown. Straight chain will let you go Faster! But riding all over town your better off going with the tc setup. Because that clutch is gonna get Hot. In a drag racing type of scenario I would go straight chain but if you want to do a average speed of 50 deal with the torque converter and juggernaut combo. At least that's my experience.
Ya, that is true. I can't run much more gear on this bike with those tall tires or it is really hard on the clutch. It would be a lot easier on it if I bump the rear sprocket to a 60 instead of a 50 that's on it now. This is just one of many combos I have tried on this bike.
Just added a Ct200uex to my collection. Bought it with a bone stock predator max 224. Stock sprockets as well. What rear sprocket would you recommend? My top speed is only 29 mph with zip tied governor and throttle stop removed. Added a pipe .38 jet intake and filter and it actually killed acceleration. Tried all different combinations and so far runs and accelerates best with stock airbox and filter no intake adapter and a .34 jet with a pipe and auto lite plug! Not sure what to try next. Not sure why this motor runs better stock. Please help! Thanks!
That brake lever, definitely custom haha.
Oh yea I like that acceleration I’m getting that jug
This will be My bike setup for my first ever hood ride if you have something better to recommend let me know 🎉 can’t wait 🏍️
Yeah I also recommend getting a green spring for tav and putting in rear position gives you a bit more top speed and if thats still not a enough lower your gearing via getting a smaller rear sprocket and then a bigger one on the front
Yes, Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. Got the bike up to over 60 MPH! th-cam.com/video/eWSEkw-q2XM/w-d-xo.html
Nice 😎😎😎
Bro what was your gearing with the Jugg? 10T front and 50t rear? It would be cool if you re-tested with a different rear sprocket
I am always trying different combos . I will for sure get back around to this bike .
I'd be interested in the future to see a Chinese belt vs a genuine Comet belt test. I personally can tell a difference using a Comet. Smoother, more acceleration and top speed. (Chinese belts seem to stretch for me)
Good point! I'll have to try that.
Agreed they stretch on me too. Awesome idea!!
Awesome videos! What gearing are you running on this bike ?
Thanks! It was running a 50 on the back and a 10 on the clutch. 5 to 1 ratio.
That is a giant gas tank you have there
Great videos. Well done. Curious if you will do a Trail master. I’ve heard a lot of good things about them.
Thank You! Yes! I have quite a few videos coming with the Trail Master
@@Black66 do the trailmaster storm 200 there’s Hardly any content on those but plenty of the mb200
I have the juggernaut and the toquezilla and they are really good.
Which one do you like more?
Did that key way come with the juggernaut?
How many rpm you get with juggernaut?
What’s the max rpm you’re running?
Hey man! Love your videos and have learned a ton from you!
I am running the juggernaut on my 224 predator (governor spring zip tied, header, intake, 95 jet) with a 15 tooth driven sprocket and a 40 tooth axle. I cannot break 45 mph. I’ve tried a 12 tooth driven and the stock 50 tooth axle at about 42 mph. Any pointers or ideas? I would think I would be close to 60!
The 95 main jet in a slide carb seems to small on a performance application for the Predator 224 even at higher altitude
@@Black66honored to have gotten a reply, thank you! Will try to up the jet a little and see what happens.
@@Black66also correction the 95 jet is in the predator style carb. I don’t have a slide carb… yet!
I installed a 30 series torque converter on my pred 224 and I can get about 5000rpm with rear tire in the air but under load I get like 4000rpm, it's like it's struggling top out the engine because of the tc but its made for a pred 212 so if I anything I should have plenty of power? any ideas man?
How about a juggernaut driver ?
What sprocket setup do you have and carb jet? I have the same setup on my bike.
On this set up we are running a 5 to 1 ratio 10 on the clutch and 50 on the rear sprocket. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many more combos on this bike. Thanks for watching! th-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/w-d-xo.html
How much horsepower does this setup have
Would you expect the juggernaut to give you better belt life, and do you still feel the direct drive with a clutch is more durable. Great content
Thanks! I like the simplicity of the clutch. Less stuff to go wrong. I'm a small person. I don't need a lot of torque. That could be different for someone else. I'm not sure about the belt life with a Juggernaut, but it might extend the belt life because
the Juggernaut puts on power more smoothly. It's not so violent taking off. Maybe that would be easier on the belt. If the driver and driven are aligned that will help too.
@@Black66 thank you David for taking your time to reply. I appreciate your insight
Do you have to have the king key for the juggernaut or can you run without it?
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What upgrades do u have in this motor in this video I’m trying get mine fast but it only goes 40 mph
In this video it had a Billet rod, billet flywheel, superman series 265 cam, 22lb springs,GX 160 head, 24mm flatslide, links are in the description. and a header pipe. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many more combos on this bike
If the inside part of the drive pulley is black from the belt should I change the alignment
The Driver driven pulleys should be in alignment. You can always put a washer behind the driver pulley to move it out into alignment. You can get a longer shaft bolt at the hardware store to make up the difference.
What is your opinion on changing the spring in the tc?
Check out the CT200U-EX playlist Did a spring swap video . th-cam.com/video/eWSEkw-q2XM/w-d-xo.html
So straight chain is faster
TC and Jug is $300 and 10mph slower?
I wonder if you got a 40t rear, how it would effect things?
I have used the 40 on many different combos. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. Thanks for watching! th-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/w-d-xo.html
You have the same set-up that I have in my ct200uex but I use the jackshaft ank only get 46mph and what fuel do you burn ❓ thanks Black66 ✌🏻👍🏻🤙🏻👌🏻
Sweet bike! I use VP small engine fuel most of the time but sometimes i will use plain old regular unleaded if that's all that I have
I have the same bike but I have a stock predator 212, what parts did u put into your to make it what it is now?
The parts list is in the description of the video. I have quite a few videos on this bike. Check out the playlist th-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/w-d-xo.html
@@Black66 thank you, keep up the great videos!!!
@@michaeldelgado800 Thanks!
I have a ct200u with stage one kit from gopowersports, a zip tie in the governor spring, and a Chinese torque converter from ebay/Amazon. I put a 60 tooth rear sprocket and a 9 tooth front sprocket on the torque converter driven pulley. It has a ton of power. If you goose it from low speed you will be on your butt. But the top speed is still decent. I’ve been 49mph on it. But it gets there very fast. Plenty of power for trail riding/hill climbing and will get up and go on the street. I think I will try a juggernaut and see what happens 👍🏼
Check out he 224 playlists along with the CT200U and CT200U-EX playlist. I have run many different engines and gear ratios on that bike. th-cam.com/video/0PB16_EYCiQ/w-d-xo.html
Sweet I’ll check it out! I’m gonna do the 22 or 24 Mikuni carb, 265 cam, billet rod, and arc flywheel next. After I do all that I may change the gearing up a bit to gain a little top speed since this is honestly already plenty powerful and those mods should give me a little more power and more rpm. But we will see! These things are a blast!
@@87fiveoh Ya, they are fun! Sounds like you have a good set up.
@@87fiveoh Check out the CT200U-EX disk brake video.
th-cam.com/video/eHax9KYC0xo/w-d-xo.html
I use that same gearing and have concluded there's no need for a Juggernaut. My 224 powers right through the belt shift and quickly gets to top speed. Very good trail rider.
If you get a Juggernaut you will have to change gearing because you will run out of engine very quickly.
What mods on the 212? and sprocket is on the tav and rear?
Wanting to build my Baja MB200
I added the engine parts list in the description
@@Black66 thanks man. What spring was in the driven
@@lsxjunkie It has the red spring
I would love to see this setup with a 42t rear sprocket. I have the same setup and hitting the same 53mph. Just curious to see what the difference in 0-30 and top speed would be
I have used a 40 rear sprocket on quite a few of the big bikes. Check out the Mega Moto and the CT200U-EX playlists playlists. th-cam.com/video/W8lcopztTxQ/w-d-xo.html
Hi Black66, So My torque converter bearings need to be changed. Where can I buy these?
Comet karts bearings. Here is the link cometkartsales.com/25.-215558A-5-8-x-1-3-8-Bearing.html
@@Black66 Thank you so much man, I've been looking for those everywhere. Love your videos
Kick that rear tire back! Even 2” makes a big difference in your ability to put power down on the launch…
I have a coleman ct200u and it has a tourgue converter and upgraded exhaust system. I'm woundering if I should get mikuni carb. and a juggernaut to help it perform better. You can check it out on my channel.
What sprockets are you running front and back?
I have had so many combinations on this bike its hard to remember a specific video. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist th-cam.com/video/aBceFczqdo4/w-d-xo.html
@@Black66 I just ran my 225 with a 24mm NIBBI stage 3 juggernaut TC and a 18t front 55t rear and it is still a 4 sec bike with more than enough top end. It just keeps going. Please try the 18t with a Juggernaut you won’t regret it brother it’s the best combo yet. 18:55T stage 3 juggernaut 225 Tilly stock.
What I did with mine was keep the original pulley and put a bigger sprocket on the rear driver
Yea a bigger sprocket would give more top speed.
What tooth size did you go with and what was your top speed?
Those drivers shine around 7500 to 8k
You should put like a 38 on the back they sell on go power sports or even a 40t rear sprocket I got to 61mph with stage 1 Governor bypassed and tourqe converter
Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. I have did that and quit a few other combos on that bike. th-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/w-d-xo.html
@@Black66 ok thanks
What gear ratio where you using when you installed this juggernaut
In this video, it was running a stock rear sprocket and a 10 on the driven. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many more combos and ratios with this bike th-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/w-d-xo.html
@@Black66 Ive watched all of your videos! I just got into minibike at the end of 2022. Your videos really help me alot building my rt200. Thanks for all you do
@@marquislewis1767 Thanks for watching the videos!
The juggster ain't no push over ey.....First
That is almost a motorcycle
Where did u get the juggernaut?
I got it from GoPowerSports. The links for the parts used are in the description of the videos. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist th-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/w-d-xo.html
How u suggest for a dirt mini bike just for trail and woods mine i just buy was set only on wheelie and road any advice to calm down the gaz
Get a tilitson and do the same mods to it I promise you it will be faster
Check out the Doodlebug playlist. It has a Tillotson 212 with quit a few mods. th-cam.com/video/jPNhbOVQ7yQ/w-d-xo.html
Bro how much it gonna cost me to build this?
It depends on the combo. There are many different combos on this bike in the playlist. The links are in the description of the videos . Thanks for watching.
th-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/w-d-xo.html
@@Black66 word boss! Thank you for the reply. Where would you buy the Coleman from?
@@sergeantcraphead I try and get them from Facebook market place or craigslist first so I don't have to pay retail prices. Im going to modify them anyway. No use getting a new one if I can help it.
@@Black66 perfect thank yooooooouuuuu
I'll be satisfied with 65mph on my minibike. hahaha
My hurricane does 60 and really is uncontrollable 225 Tillotson jug my mm212 pro is hitting 58 with a mild built stage 2 Tillotson and is kinda scary to ride I know it has more I've got to put tires on it v treads are sketchy at high speed
@@heathenprojects2639 I bet... I think my homemade minibike "top speed" is about 50, with no mods... *I* ,haven't tested but heard that it likes to swerve to the sides. It didn't before. I'll have to see why.
it said 53 not 63
He knows it was the bikes highest speed
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