Coleman 200 Minibike Torque Converter Install | Walkthrough
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- We will install our Coleman CT200 Minibike Torque Converter onto a Coleman CT200 Minibike. This kit will fit all Coleman 200 Series Minibikes with a 5/8" (16mm) Crankshaft. CT200, BT200, and RT200 Minibikes. This kit will also fit the Predator 79cc Engine, Coleman 100 Series Minibikes with a 98cc or 3 Horse Power Engine, and the Mega Moto 105cc Engine.
Easy installation instructions for the Coleman CT200 Series Minibikes.
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Lose that dinky centrifugal clutch and upgrade to the Coleman Torque Converter Kit.
How much is the kit ?
@@alexmarquez4807 $194.00 There is a link in the info up top.
Cool and this makes the bike run faster right ?
Cause I just ordered one and I want to install this to it
@@alexmarquez4807 The gear ratio allows you to get more power to the wheel. Yes.
Did they eliminate the bronze bushing in the driver unit that the belt rides on?
Way over priced. That's the same China parts as the over priced 80.00 epay TC kit. And a dollars worth of tubing for raisers. Maybe if y'all didn't sponsor every kart builder with free parts ... You wouldn't have to charge so much.
The reasons Im buying this kit is because of the sponsored channels, and Go Power Sports customer service...
Worth spending a little extra !
screw u
every company has theyre own pricing, and you might have found the same one on another site.. but unlike other sites these guys test all theyre products and do sponsership to prove it.. other people just care about theyre money.. i think you need to rethink your speech on this subject...
@@Gender1979 sir I think you should re think your speech these guys don't do all they're on testing they send out the products they're trying to move to the channels they sponsor.... As for the crap go power sports sells the majority of it is crap they've imported from China in quantity to resell you can find most of it on eBay for half price sometimes even less than half... go power sports is probably the biggest predatory reseller I've seen seriously go check there prices then go look on eBay then come back and tell me how you feel...
Does ebay provide videos for the average tinkerer to follow step-by-step? Does ebay offer any advice if you call with questions? Are you really that butthurt over tubing and hardware that is pre-dilled and easy to install? I'm guessing you custom-machined your entire bike as well lol
NOTE TO SELF! Take off exhaust before raising the engine that way no issue with the frame!
A 6 mm bolt and seven washers on a crankshaft to hold all the torque,..you know I'm not a rocket scientist,but if that does'nt throw up red flags what does,..I'll take my chances on the clutch and chain,that kit is a joke,..
i was thinking the same, small bolt for a drive clutch
I'm pretty sure you could tap the end of the crank bigger to an 8 or 10 mm bolt and instead of a bunch of washers, get a proper fitting spacer
That bolt should have minimal side load. If there’s enough to snap that bolt you have bigger problems.
It looks like that performance muffler will be a leg burner.
Troy Yarbrough nah it don't
That’s what happens to me
Troy Yarbrough don’t wear long baggy pants or shorts.
Wrap the header with header wrap and you will not burn yourself.
Leg is fine, but it did burn a hole in my kilt.
@2:45.... grabbing the chain while cranking the sprocket with an impact drill... a good way to lose fingers lol
You didn't need to cut off the bar because the torque converter should have a 1 inch plate to put the engine on. That plate eliminates the need to cut that piece off. Unless you were straight chaining it which it looks that way in which case you would just need to cut the mount for the chain guard. I straight chained mine and I went from 25mph to 41 mph. I just lost most of the takeoff speed I had but that's alright because now I can cruise the country roads almost going the speed limit
Not true for me unfortunately. I went to put the backplate on and that rear bar won't allow the backplate to fit flush. Now I gotta youtube how to angle grind and hope I don't end up cutting off a limb lol. Sucks
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@@ALEXGEORGE408You lrobably figured out by now but the jackshaft mount can get cut off also.
My Hemi Predator wouldn't fit with it on there.
I hope Santa brings you a new prefilter sock as you certainly melted that one. But "Let's not talk about that."
Why didn't the design take the exhaust pipe over the center of the tire.?
It would be nice but it isn't absoultelty necessary...as enters and exits the bike by stepping over the seat
I would keep that flange, with one inch of pipe on it, cut it and make my own pipe going out over the back wheel, it is in the way for sure sticking out the side, why get burnt up.
Metal shavings might not do too well in the head lol
2:45
You’re gonna lose fingers one day
That's what this sweet bike deserved all along 🥰
Lol
Any way to buy the shaft adapter by itself? I have a complete kit sitting around not doing much just need to somehow adapt the shaft from 5/8 to either a 3/4 or 1in. GPS do you sell the adapter by itself? Hate to buy a complete kit when I already bought one from GoPower for a project I never done.
Installed the kit, very straight foward installation. I wanted my chain guard it was easy to add 1 hole on the plate and make a bracket to mount the chain guard to the plate.MAYBE something others would also be interested in?
would like to see how u did it. thanks for your post.
Smart man
It is easier than u think to fall and get your hand or clothes in an open chain smart man for using guard
Do i have to remove chain guard brackets even if u use engine risers, or would I be better off using the engine riser mount plate instead?
Did you get an answer
Would a plate work for a torque converter?
You need need risers under your engine to help clear the frame at the bottom
sucks that they don't sell the adapter sleeve separate. Save a lot more money buying the $50 1" TAV2 from ebay and buy the adapter sleeve from GPS. Even if they sell the adapter for about $30, $80 is a LOT cheaper than $180+.
Can I get the parts you removed
Converter made the exhaust pipe go even closer to the riders leg
Start it !! Ride it !! lol all fore play and no happy ending make Johnny a dull boy !! Also what the point of the safety wrap after you put the muffler on !? Should come with wrap for the part that's gonna burn you ... the muffler ! Also the parts to adapt the tav seem ... Home Depot ish .. I'm sure you could cut better pieces . Jmo though . Cheers ! Ps. The edit could have been way shorter . Not trying to bash you . My channel sucks lol !
Where are you located.? Do you have a Commercial Shop?
Come check us out. 1375 S Main St, Keller, TX 76248
Great video, nice set up! The only thing is the hacked up side cover. Use a pair of tin snips for a clean cut.
That's a great idea!
Why did you use a 1 inch primary clutch with a spacer and not just use a 5/8 clutch instead.
really doesn't seem like cutting out part of the frame would be a great thing to do...i am sure that bar you cut out was engineered to add strength and rigidity for all the fat asses that will be riding.
Will all these parts work on a predator 224?
You would most likely want to use our Jugg-A-Verter kit. This Coleman kit won't fit on to your crankshaft.
And you don't show how to remove castle nut wtf dude
I don't know why yall wanna cut the frame, I did the job didn't cut anything and still have the chain Guard. of coarse i designed my own risers and mine far superior. Than China Made.
What do you dudes make light standard
Run an external battery.
am I required to raise the engine?
With this method, yes.
Does the frame on the CT200U have to be cut for this modification ? Don't feel like I want to chop my new frame all to hell !
No
@@caden2774 how can I avoid cutting the frame and install a torque converter?
Ct200u doesn't need to be cut. He said so in the video.
Does the 200u ex have you get to bracket cut
No test run and show on all your work??
We failed :(
I have a problem on my ct200u ex mini bike and after about 1:30 minutes of running it revs a lot and gets so slow I need help with it plz
So I recently bought a used Coleman. Apparently it has a torque converter on already. But it's missing the belt and front pulley. It just has the pipe that spins. I need the front pulley and belt. Do they sell just those parts? What will that run me to have a mechanic fix it?
If you are doing these modifications to your minibike, do not cut the exhaust header if you have gas in your fuel tank it could catch on fire and explode in your face. I know this because it happened to me.
Do you have to cut off the bracket?
When will the torque converters be available again?
I want one so bad but I am waiting for it to get back in stock!
@@Troygehring they just got in stock bro just ordered one better get one fast
@@raysolano6623 I just did😊 thanks man!👍🏻
I have the same model coleman and the bt200x. I noticed they made a riser that kicks the motor up and forward. Have you tried installing those and being able to keep from cutting anything? I am affraid to cut that bar off the ct200u because it fells feels flimsy compared to the bt200x. I ride rough and love jumping my bt200x. But been affraid on the ct200u. And wanting to go with that torque converter setup. But without chopping frame. Thank you for the video. And i will be contacting your shop for the parts.
Do not worry about cutting out that bar on the back. We race off road a lot, and that back area is not where these frames will typically crack. Its generally the two front tubes about 3"-4" below the neck bend. I also really love the riser plate you are referring to that is made by another reputable company.
@@deafduckracing2462 the bt200x is still going strong. But any tips on how to keep those heavy steel fenders on the ct200u-ex. She only rides that bike around slow rear fender fell off on a dirt road. I welded it back on and it fell off a week later. I welded as hot as i could without melting the thin bar. I must of got the minibike built on Friday at 5pm
@@goadmerle is the mount falling off the frame or the fender falling off the mount?
@@deafduckracing2462 the mount falls off the frame. Which you think they would of attached better since its where the vin and serial numbers are riveted. I may have to drill it and run screws through the frame. I contacted Coleman when the bike was only 2 months old. And they dont cover anything on these bikes. Even their welds. I am a certified welder. And told them the welds are shotty. Holes everyhere. The welds on my bt200x are beautiful. The frame on the ct200u-ex is more of a cast metal. And the bt200x is steel. And that cast metal cant handle the weight of those fenders. I found a few other people online complaining about the same problem. And one guy got it taken from police because the vin plate was gone. In California. Appeared stolen.
@@goadmerle Coleman definitely isn’t known for their welding quality control. 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻
Just bought a new camo Coleman 200 cc mini. Ur show convinced me 2 buy.. I'm watching. Let's 🌟' t. 2. Modify.... T3ME
How much further does that stick out compared to the original clutch?
Everything is fantastic except that torque converter cover !
This is probably a MY fault , however , I had a difficult time getting just three screwed into place. And the forth (lower right facing the torque converter cover) was un-reachable. I trimmed the housing and it fit the remaining bolts perfectly.
Now the housing is rubbing something in there 😳
All well , part of the fun is the chase !
Thanks for all the great videos
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great install video it was simple but yet very detailed would love to see a competition between the stock clutch and gear reduction and the tourqe converter! =) again great video
love ur vids bro
The torque of the engine doesn't ride on the Bolt and washers that just hold it all on the crankshaft the torque is on the keyway
Im running into a issue with the chain hitting the torque converter wheel causing the chain to pop off and damage the converter, if anyone has or had this issue please lmk i am stumped on this
Would the Coleman 200 series fit my 196cc Coleman ct200U ex ? I bought a new 5/8 clutch and didn’t fit does that mean I need the 30 series torque converter kit ? That makes it a 3/4 right ?
People....cutting the chain guard bracket is not necessary.
So how fast is the upgraded mini bike?
around 30 if you keep the engine stock
Down to a Science so your doing 30 with just the intake/exhaust/ jet?
Or did you remove the governor to up them rpms?
@@Majestic_3D_Printing Stock with the stage 1 I went a little over 30 before removing the governor with the stage 1 It makes more power so I made the gearing a tiny bit taller
@@Majestic_3D_Printing sling a rod you take the governor off
@@jditty8708 It's a shame that people new to these bikes follow the same old upgrade sequence. The bottom line is that if you have a new Coleman and want more speed go right to a torque converter and bypass all the BS. There is no need to remove the governor or add 18lb valve springs before or after you install a torque converter. A stage 1 kit is nice, but do it after you install the torque converter. Some people would be happy with only a torque converter and not have to spend extra money on other unnecessary upgrades.
The people who sell parts love newbs who don't know what they are doing.
Anyone know of a video of a torque converter install on this same bike (ct200u-ex) with a predator 212 engine? Does the chain guard still tubing still need to be cut off when using the risers provided in the kit? Can’t seem to find info on this.
Why does everyone take the air filter assembly apart lol, take the two nuts off, pull the breather hose, and slide it all off.
Because there's a third bolt inside the air cleaner housing.
This kit will fit in my Baja 200cc? I just need the torque converter I already got exhaust/ filter and jetted carb. I’m pushing 40mph with stock clutch
Why does this kit require you to cut the frame chain guard bracket off and other kits do not? Please explain..
Is there a reason you can't skip the risers and rotate the backing plate assembly up? It looks like there's three sets of holes where you installed the bolts where you could use a different set and rotate the assembly up a little
That's my question also.
I stay away from some of Chinese junk for some ones else's comment.. and I build bikes up for shows i have record cruiser on speed and performance i built up he's nice
Why wouldnt you rotate the mounting plate counter clockwise one hole position , raising the driven clutch upwards ,and eliminating the need for engine risers and exaust changes ? And that piece of frame you cut out. it wasn't structural at all . no need for it
Very conformative
Glad you think so!
So basically destroy the whole bike for a torque converter? No thanks. OMB has a bolt on TC
I put this EXACT same kit on my Coleman BT200X(from GPS)Stock I was going 18-20mph. Once installed I went down to 12mph,also didn’t get to the 12mph very fast either. Can someone explain this to me or give me any pointers. Maybe a operator error,go up a size in rear sprocket(currently I have a 50T) or maybe I missed something on the install... any advice would be great?
It should definitely be going faster! Check some other videos on torque converter installs. Sounds like its slipping. Did you use the right belt?
I called GPS,I hadn’t cut off my throttle screw yet. They said those converters are made to I gage at a high RPM so once I cut the throttle screw off I was hitting 33mph and could barely keep my front wheel off the ground!!!! So you are right,definitely going faster.
So I have a new issue,I Tightened my chain a little bit and now I feel like I’ve lost some speed...I wonder if to right of a chain can make the speed go down...? Any suggestions?
i just installed it, feels like it doesnt even want to move. full throttle cant get me up a bump. i have the bt200x just have not cut the gov screw. doesnt seem to be the problem to me. should move up hill with out full throttle. seems like the belt is slipping.
@@ME-pw3kc did you ever fix it?
@@MolagBalls no i never fixed it. dont have any time to work on my truck let alone mini bike. also i never removed throttle screw. will have to check everything again and see if it works.
how do i from reduce the vibraton if possible at all thanks gizmo from leander tx
I have to run in pull n jump on my Coleman mini while choke is on jus to get going. If I try to pull it setting the back tire grabbing kills it once throttled, until Its rolling
this is WAAAAYYYYY over priced. you can buy a predator engine AND a 3/4 torque converter for about the sam price......
i just picked up a 30 series tc for 46 bucks free shipping on amazon
Where?
I got a whole kit for $65 that looks pretty similar to this
These engines are better than those shitty predators
Predetor engines are good if you know how to work on engines
Do they know what a torque wrench is?
Sure don’t and for a big company they sure like to hack and rig frames up
Why did u cut bar off if u used a riser , I thought that’s what riser was for , so u didn’t have to cut anything
Angle sheet metal snips would work for that plastic cover JM2C
I wish you would have gotten a close up of the choke bracket and jet
And the muffler sounds like what?? I thought you'd fire the bike up
I ordered one of these kits for my Coleman and the spacer for the driver is to small for my motor. Won’t go on shaft of motor.
why do I need those spacers under the motor? Why cant I just take my TAV and use those extra mounting holes to have it pointed upwards?
U can use anything as long as it's strong enough
My screws will not go into the engine , did the wrong thread come with my kit . I am a little lost . And I also don’t see the metal sleeve in the kit
Keeps blowing the clutch/drver on these at higher speeds, been through 3.
Im not sure if it's the length of my crankshaft, but I couldn't get it to fit
please tell me how the $50 muffler adds 1 to 2 hp on the dyno, and don't say back pressure cuz that's bs
It's less restrictive let's the exhaust gas flow out faster and easier
@@GeorgiaRidgerunner Literally like a can with two screens though. Not an ACTUAL muffler, more like a spark arrestor tip
How much is it for the torque converter kit? And what about a different jet, intake and exhaust? I have this same mini bike, I just bought it two days ago, it has a lot of torque, but it doesn't have very much speed, which I don't like, so I want to get some upgrades and I'm trying to figure out what it's going to cost me. Thanks
That’s what I want to know is the link for the rest
I'd recommend adding a peice of rubber / something to where the stands meet the frame under the engine, it'll probably reduce some vibration
I did on the build I'm doing cause I thought the same. Haven't finished it yet so I guess we'll see if that theory is correct
@@BM205 how did it go then?
@@coby4482 I don't know if it's really necessary it might help with vibration but I can't really say for sure
Will it work with the Coleman RT200? Also, does the CT200u ex and rt 200 use the same clutch? Can you tell me the jack shaft diameter of both bikes? 3/4 or 5/8? Thanks
Did you find out if it can and where you got yours from because in trying to find out also.
I want a stage 1 kit but I crash enough that the airfilter with be broken
Don't you loose your stock fuel shut off with this air filter?
Anything u could use to cover the holes from grinding the bar off? Some plastic rivets that hold car fender moulding or matting in trunks that u could silicone in wouldn’t be bad....just would like to keep water or debris from getting inside the frame
I filled mine with magnum steel epoxy, sanded it and painted, can't tell the holes were ever there
I added a torque converter and a stage 1 kit and cant hardly take off without it doing a wheelie. Thinking about pulling it off and putting it on my go kart. Any suggestions before I do
try out a 44 tooth rear sprocket! it lowers your torque a little bit & opens up your top end a lot. I hit about 45mph with a stage 1 & torque converter
Everything fits minus the bolt to the shaft it’s too small. What size or did anybody else come into this problem??? Help I just got it tonight :/
What engine do you have? All small block crankshafts except the Hisun 196 use a 5/16x24 bolt. The Hisun 196 uses a metric bolt, M6. Either bolt needs to be at least 2 inches long. When you tighten it down use blue loctite on the threads.
Where is the link to the jet intake and muffler
What tooth sprocket do you have on it and how fast does it go with the torque converter kit on it bc you do need more torque to run a smaller sprocket
I have a 60 Tooth rear sprocket with my torque converter it's a Beast with my Tillotson Hemi 212 💪😏
Would it work on a BT200X
What exhaust pipe and muffler is that?
You guys need to put together a cheaper 40 series, really come on guys, I love what you guys do and paid more for parts than i could have on a big internet site, which is hard to compete with just cause MERICA... I want to support You guys but can you help us out? Oh and thanks for the stickers. Lol. Merry Christmas Go Power Sports
Boohoo
It like working on your lawnmower
Top speed?
Jacob Rosenthal 30mph
I had mine 35mph and had plenty of throttle left
I have a major problem and I need help asap😭
Any idea why I’m backfiring so much when I let off the throttle after installing the stage one kit? I also added the autolite racing plug and it has the zip tie mod.
Means you're running lean, adjust your fuel.
I don't get it. By the time you add all the upgrades that people do on these things, you could actually buy a real motorcycle. Instead of some Briggs & Stratton wannabe with no rear suspension and crappy front suspension. To each their own I guess but like I said. I don't get it. The only real purpose I can see for these things is for a kid to learn on without having to use a hand clutch. Otherwise they're just cheap Chinese junk.
Some people love the fact that they can build their own and modify these simple machines with a few tools. They also love the fact that they can get a minibike starting at $600, where as a real motorcycle like a Honda 50 typically start new for $1600-$2000. Different strokes for different folks. Thanks for your insight!
Hey man I just did this whole set up but I can’t get the jet out and now the bike only runs faster than 5 miles an hour with the choke on but off it won’t go faster than that do know what the problem could be
Same
But I can WOT the bike and it go 40mph
I bought a brand new bt200 right out of box rear tire locks up every 3 feet , I loosened rear brake adjustment all the way out and tire still locking up, please help
Tense spots in a new chain possibly means it hasn't stretched yet. I went through the same headache with mine. Stripped the adjuster, had to get a new one. Check brake adjustment as well, that can hold you up as well
Wow I love this video
Made in china right on the box 👍
Man, no test ride !
Nice video guys!
do you have to cut the frame?
find a old gas tank from 3 wheeler or motorcycle and put that on instead of the one, on your engine.. looks better and holds more fuel.
Rusty old tank.
Not good
If you cut the bracket off in front of the rear tire do you still need to lift the motor for the torque converter?
yes
I need help. I have the torque converter and a predator 212 motor. Will a stage kit 1 be a good addition?
Stage 1 on everything is a great way to go.
Poorly designed torque convertor. (Flat sided belt, straight side pulley=drives on one side of belt only!)
The Comet 30 series has been around for decades and works very well. Proven design.
show me that notchhhh oh yeahhhh