I have a XFX RX 550 XT that stops working when I install the driver. The pc freezes at some point during the windows loading screen. Is it possible to fix?
X570 vs X570S are the newer X570S updated already for Ryzen 7 5000 + with newer bios updates and the fans for the heatsinks were replace because they break down all the time, So far I’ve only found one review that even mentions the newer bios updates for X570S every review I see ignores for bios review for X570S :(
i remember the first asrock board i bought in the 90s. the driver cd had a video of an overly excited (taiwanese? idk) girl explaining how to setup the software, and she was really happy about her pc working when she was done. thats the kind of thing asrock needs to bring back.
I've been running a X570-X Strix for a while and I'd have to say it's perfectly fine for a refresh it's all current tech with silence the chipset fan is inaudible anyway but it's a part which could fail with time so it's a welcome refresh.
I was recently looking at boards & definitely would not get one with a built-in chipset fan. Factor in the used market, it appears the trend of a chipset requiring a fan is a pass for people like me. It wouldn't be so bad if chipset heatsink/fans were more universal, like with the CPU, but more efficient chipset/heatsink design is infinitely better. Not a huge deal I guess, but there is a high chance it will be the first thing to fail.
I suppose it's a more long-term thought. Especially now days, many people will use their PC for nearly a decade. If you look back to the XFX 790i SLI ultra (or something like that) good luck finding a (working) fan for the chipset heatsink. Sure you can mod one on, but then it starts getting into the territory of "janky" or appearing less original, it really depends on what someone is looking for. Granted, I am aware it is ancient tech now lol, but if someone wanted to build a retro PC from that era, it is not hard to find a mobo of the same spec that can efficiently cool chipset without a built-in fan. Long post about chipset fans lol. I guess this preference also roots from mobos now have more features & doing just fine without the chipset fans.
hi.. i got this board based on your vid. I was having issues making 4 DIMMs working ok with other brand MB. with this one, it all worked ok reliably at higher speed (Same CPU, the same RAM etc). thx for the vid.
I love all the research and effort that you put into this kind of video Bryan! You go very in depth into what may seem like an easy question but actually isn't!
Bryan, you have entered the hall of 'viewing royalty' in my house. The kids no longer spit chips when I watch your vids :) They LOVE it when you wash motherboards etc lol.
Most S motherboards, at least from Giga and MSI, also have a brand new memory topology, which increases both the speed and stability of the RAM... With both 5950X and 5900X dropping 200 to 300 Euros in price, that and memory now easily reaching 5400 with the new topology...
Maybe it's a tacit admission by AMD that Ryzen 5000 will stay around a while, like they are expecting a slow transition to AM5 socket and DDR5 (perhaps due to high prices? Maybe Ryzen 5000 becomes the value line?)
I thought the difference was that X570 Chipset was built with 12NM so the TDP was a lot higher which is why it needed an active cooling fan on most cases while the X570S was built on 7nm which brought down the TDP significantly which is why they could get away with a small and flimsy piece of aluminium this time around but other than that there should be no difference from the original performance-wise.
@@nobodyanybody3374 I read it online across multiple websites like this one www.igamesnews.com/pc/amd-x570s-new-quieter-chipset-for-ryzen-processors/ and also from a few forums like this one pcpartpicker.com/forums/topic/397999-what-is-the-difference-between-x570-and-x570s the OG X570 chipset was on 12NM from Global Foundries as AMD is still contractually required to make chips from them so all Chipsets from X370-X570 and the mid and low end chipsets was made from there but with the most recent revision of their contract AMD is now allowed to heavily reduce their orders from there and the only way they could have made the X570 chipset more power efficient and therefor produce less heat is with a change in process node.
I got an MSI X570 Unify about three months ago and I just set the chipset fan to silent in the BIOS. This essentially means the chipset fan won't turn on until the chipset temp is in the 70's and apparently the max temp for the chipset is 95C. I've yet to see it go over the mid 60's so happy days.
@@Turzone If you're keeping that CPU then probably not. The X570 Unify is a bit overkill for a 2700X IMO. I'd be looking at something like a B550 Tomahawk and that would give you the option of upgrading to a Ryzen 5000 CPU later on should you want to, but probably not a 5950X.
@@Turzone Pairing a £350 motherboard with that CPU does seem a bit overkill for me, but if wifi is a big deal for you and you're going to add a 5900X or similar before they become obsolete then maybe.
I would have really liked to see the chipset getting loaded up on this one. He mentioned himself that the m.2 and gpu aren't loading the chipset, but then proceeded to dismiss it as an unusual use case. I don't want to know what the "normal" use case is, I want to see if the new passively cooled chipset will thermal throttle under sustained loads! I want to know if I saturate that pci-e 4.0 x4 lane from the chipset to the CPU, if it's going to be able to maintain that at a constant level.
It passed all the tests with flying colors though, I couldn't find one flaw, so that should go to some lengths for the board. Usually there will be some kind of inefficiency like relatively poor scaling on overclocks etc. at sub $200 price point.
it depends on what you're looking for I suppose. for me, X570 in general is way overpriced, and B450 can deliver more than I need. Additionally, I need more rear USB ports than the featured X570S board offers. For someone with a 5950X, who is looking to overclock it, and doesn't need any features the board is missing, it seems like a valid option to me.
At 4:37 you mention 1t:1t:1t and point towards the commant rate of 1T. What do you mean by that? I thought the command rate has nothing to do with the 1t:1t:1t syncronisation of cpu clock, imc clock and if clock. As far as I know, the command rate is almost negligible on AM4, as other timings (like trfc, trc and tfaw) have a greater impact on performance. And the choice between 1t vs 2t command rate is pretty much irrelevant since you can simply enable gear down mode at 1t.
Nice work dude .. so about the mining card thing I bought one locally and it's been working fine but I had to lower the momory and frequency a lil 'cuse I get artifacts if it's on the stock figure .. so is there anything I can do make it last longer I've been using it for a year and a half now and it's doing fine ( sorry for the long comment but I hope u can answer me ty)
i dont think you put enough load in the chipset. you need to put pci e 4.0 in the chipset like m2. if you only put m2 in first slot, that pci lane is connected directly to the cpu and not chipset
I honestly thought AM5 was going to be here by the end of the year, now that appears to be the end of next year I really might have to get something like this. I might wait to see what Alder Lake and Zen 3D is like first though.
When will the X570S motherboards finally be out? Next to the GPUs this is the other reason why I am still waiting for buying a new PC. I don't want a chipset fan.
@@introvertplays6162 Yeah, TBH I should have spentyy a littler bit more and bought the MSi MB with a heatpipe. Have an ASUS MB now and the fan being cramped behind a hot GPU is not the best. Helps turning up the fan on the GPU though.
I'm getting a ROG Strix X570-E Gaming with a 3900x 12 core a buddy is building for me. We figure it will blow away my current i7 4960x and it'll be running a M2 ssd drive on one of the M2 ports so should be way faster than the sata ssd drives I boot from now. It'll have all the latest features and should support just about any Ryzen chip out there now. I think for now it's the chip set to go with if you want to run AMD and it will be just picking the features and price your willing to pay. Buddy builds systems and networks professionally so I help him scrap trade ins and we trade for money and parts and he always has cool leftovers to trade with me.
Prepare to be underwhelmed. Nvme vs SATA in day to day tasks is not that much different. Nothing at all like the difference between say a HDD and an SSD. Maybe a second or two here or there in games at best. Essentially unnoticeable. Definitely noticeable if transferring large files from nvme to nvme BUT even SATA SSD to SATA SSD is 3-4x faster than a hdd
@@lunchie80 I'm not expecting it to boot significantly faster myself like you said but he swears it will boot lightning quick. My old boxes boot very quickly with a sata ssd anyway compared to a normal hard drive. I am expecting it to recode videos and play games significantly faster from the extra cores and memory bandwidth though. Will be nice to be able to run some of the newer hardware my old board doesn't support directly too. I might have to get another 16 gig of memory to bring it up to what my rig has now but we'll see how it runs. I hate having to reload and figure things out again after getting everything dialed in on my old setup but should be worth it. Too bad I can't afford a video card upgrade but I guess my 1070gtx will have to do.
Dang it, i love the PCB and features/price but cant find it Argentina where is located ASRock repair service for the whole south America ironically...Sounds like a joke :(
Wow is that alot of words for a simple question. Do they all respond like that? As if they are all failed novelists or litigators hoping to one day rekindle their writing chops ? 0:52
sooooo if the chipset fans were never needed (tghis is proven since they are releasing boards NOW without them.........) WHY DID THEY MAKE THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE
Me: *sees x570 platform and z570 and also RTX 3k series* Guess I won't be upgrading anytime soon, maybe 4th gen or 5th. Still running r5 1600, x370 and 1070ti. Just biding my time untip its right.
yea if u're only for gaming with no future uses outside of gaming like editing/dedicated livestreaming rig uses, yea i woulda gone for a B550 but i'm one of those people who likes to recycle for a future use so no i'm happy X570S came out so i don't have to worry about a Chipset fan
The problem with Asrock is they have shit customer service so if you have any problems you going to be stuck..... do research on the company first and see the problems people had with Asrock customer service thank you for the awesome video though as always
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Great feedback below, it has been a while since I did a motherboard review, hopefully I wasn't too rusty! On to a parts hunt now!
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I have a XFX RX 550 XT that stops working when I install the driver. The pc freezes at some point during the windows loading screen. Is it possible to fix?
X570 vs X570S are the newer X570S updated already for Ryzen 7 5000 + with newer bios updates and the fans for the heatsinks were replace because they break down all the time, So far I’ve only found one review that even mentions the newer bios updates for X570S every review I see ignores for bios review for X570S :(
i remember the first asrock board i bought in the 90s. the driver cd had a video of an overly excited (taiwanese? idk) girl explaining how to setup the software, and she was really happy about her pc working when she was done. thats the kind of thing asrock needs to bring back.
I've been running a X570-X Strix for a while and I'd have to say it's perfectly fine for a refresh it's all current tech with silence the chipset fan is inaudible anyway but it's a part which could fail with time so it's a welcome refresh.
I was recently looking at boards & definitely would not get one with a built-in chipset fan. Factor in the used market, it appears the trend of a chipset requiring a fan is a pass for people like me. It wouldn't be so bad if chipset heatsink/fans were more universal, like with the CPU, but more efficient chipset/heatsink design is infinitely better. Not a huge deal I guess, but there is a high chance it will be the first thing to fail.
@@WitmerXL You can replace the fan for like $2 or by the time have upgraded
I suppose it's a more long-term thought. Especially now days, many people will use their PC for nearly a decade. If you look back to the XFX 790i SLI ultra (or something like that) good luck finding a (working) fan for the chipset heatsink. Sure you can mod one on, but then it starts getting into the territory of "janky" or appearing less original, it really depends on what someone is looking for. Granted, I am aware it is ancient tech now lol, but if someone wanted to build a retro PC from that era, it is not hard to find a mobo of the same spec that can efficiently cool chipset without a built-in fan. Long post about chipset fans lol. I guess this preference also roots from mobos now have more features & doing just fine without the chipset fans.
hi.. i got this board based on your vid. I was having issues making 4 DIMMs working ok with other brand MB. with this one, it all worked ok reliably at higher speed (Same CPU, the same RAM etc). thx for the vid.
I love all the research and effort that you put into this kind of video Bryan! You go very in depth into what may seem like an easy question but actually isn't!
love to see the tech yes city intro back!
Love your stuff! Keep it up!
Lovin that Staffan Carlen. It's so TYC mining, currency-inflation era appropriate. Also liked the music you utilized during PCDC.
Bryan, you have entered the hall of 'viewing royalty' in my house. The kids no longer spit chips when I watch your vids :) They LOVE it when you wash motherboards etc lol.
lol i will have to wash a few more soon!
Most S motherboards, at least from Giga and MSI, also have a brand new memory topology, which increases both the speed and stability of the RAM... With both 5950X and 5900X dropping 200 to 300 Euros in price, that and memory now easily reaching 5400 with the new topology...
Question of the day is back!! Personally seems a little late for the x570s
Maybe it's a tacit admission by AMD that Ryzen 5000 will stay around a while, like they are expecting a slow transition to AM5 socket and DDR5 (perhaps due to high prices? Maybe Ryzen 5000 becomes the value line?)
If rumours are to be below ved we will se Zen3 products with 3d cache on AM4.
8:55 - The way you say "encompass" is wild
It's ridiculous how few explanations there are for this. Seems likes a common sense comparison to make. Thanks!
Thanks for the informative review. I need a board. I will give this a go in a Fractal Torrent case.
I thought the difference was that X570 Chipset was built with 12NM so the TDP was a lot higher which is why it needed an active cooling fan on most cases while the X570S was built on 7nm which brought down the TDP significantly which is why they could get away with a small and flimsy piece of aluminium this time around but other than that there should be no difference from the original performance-wise.
Could you share your source or link to this information?
@@nobodyanybody3374 I read it online across multiple websites like this one www.igamesnews.com/pc/amd-x570s-new-quieter-chipset-for-ryzen-processors/ and also from a few forums like this one pcpartpicker.com/forums/topic/397999-what-is-the-difference-between-x570-and-x570s the OG X570 chipset was on 12NM from Global Foundries as AMD is still contractually required to make chips from them so all Chipsets from X370-X570 and the mid and low end chipsets was made from there but with the most recent revision of their contract AMD is now allowed to heavily reduce their orders from there and the only way they could have made the X570 chipset more power efficient and therefor produce less heat is with a change in process node.
@@TechGamer-pq1gu No mention on the 7nm. Anyway, X570S is the way to go for new AMD system builders.
I got an MSI X570 Unify about three months ago and I just set the chipset fan to silent in the BIOS. This essentially means the chipset fan won't turn on until the chipset temp is in the 70's and apparently the max temp for the chipset is 95C. I've yet to see it go over the mid 60's so happy days.
I have a 2700x. Should I get that motherboard?
@@Turzone If you're keeping that CPU then probably not. The X570 Unify is a bit overkill for a 2700X IMO. I'd be looking at something like a B550 Tomahawk and that would give you the option of upgrading to a Ryzen 5000 CPU later on should you want to, but probably not a 5950X.
@@Sid-Cannon would it be really overkill. I would plan on upgrading but I don’t know when. Also I would want WiFi on it
@@Turzone Pairing a £350 motherboard with that CPU does seem a bit overkill for me, but if wifi is a big deal for you and you're going to add a 5900X or similar before they become obsolete then maybe.
@@Sid-Cannon What motherboards with wifi would u recommend
They should’ve called it “X590”, as a poke on Z390 compared to Z370
AIBs are used to increasing prices for graphics cards that now they increase motherboards prices as well
yeah, i'm noticing that too.
Greed have no limits
I would have really liked to see the chipset getting loaded up on this one. He mentioned himself that the m.2 and gpu aren't loading the chipset, but then proceeded to dismiss it as an unusual use case.
I don't want to know what the "normal" use case is, I want to see if the new passively cooled chipset will thermal throttle under sustained loads! I want to know if I saturate that pci-e 4.0 x4 lane from the chipset to the CPU, if it's going to be able to maintain that at a constant level.
*ASRock rules ! I always buy GPU's & Motherboards from ASRock !* Would love to see them make also PSU's !
Your trfc is at 630 if I’m not mistaken that’s a Samsung bdie kit and should do at least 300 trfc which will bring down latency a lot
$180 seems so expensive for such a basic board
It passed all the tests with flying colors though, I couldn't find one flaw, so that should go to some lengths for the board. Usually there will be some kind of inefficiency like relatively poor scaling on overclocks etc. at sub $200 price point.
it depends on what you're looking for I suppose. for me, X570 in general is way overpriced, and B450 can deliver more than I need. Additionally, I need more rear USB ports than the featured X570S board offers. For someone with a 5950X, who is looking to overclock it, and doesn't need any features the board is missing, it seems like a valid option to me.
it's good even for 5950x if you don't go wild on the voltage. some B550 cost more than this.
I agree, a B450 is half the price and delivers just as good performance.
@@techyescity does x570s resolved USB issues out of the box which were there in x570 boards ?
At 4:37 you mention 1t:1t:1t and point towards the commant rate of 1T. What do you mean by that? I thought the command rate has nothing to do with the 1t:1t:1t syncronisation of cpu clock, imc clock and if clock.
As far as I know, the command rate is almost negligible on AM4, as other timings (like trfc, trc and tfaw) have a greater impact on performance. And the choice between 1t vs 2t command rate is pretty much irrelevant since you can simply enable gear down mode at 1t.
Lookin slick there Mr. TechYesCity
It's that the C&C Red Alert music at the end?
yes
I found it rather strange to be listening to the section about audio cross talk when there's back ground music clobbering the vocal presentation.
Nice looking board 😀 maybe a bit overpriced thou 🤔 sorta reminds me a bit of the b550 tomahawk in the looks dept
Pretty cool mobo, seen it with actually better price that then normal X570's.
Now just waiting for the X570LOL to come out...
and it also has Thunderbolt 4 support
Bryan which poogram do you use tô test crosstalk?
Trc is a bit high, shouldn't it be closer to 59 for 16-18-18-18-36 timings! That good ole AMD bug.
is there a gigabyte x570S for amd4 ? is the master also without a chipset fan ?
Nice work dude .. so about the mining card thing I bought one locally and it's been working fine but I had to lower the momory and frequency a lil 'cuse I get artifacts if it's on the stock figure .. so is there anything I can do make it last longer I've been using it for a year and a half now and it's doing fine ( sorry for the long comment but I hope u can answer me ty)
Repaste and replace thermal pads.
Have you even checked the thermals?
@@lunchie80 the thermals are good never goes over 82 if the game is demanding but most of the time it's around 75
Will this thing support a thunderbolt 3 add-in pcie card?
Long story short, I would go with x570. You already have a lot that you can do on it.
I rate this video 2/10
"No components have been submerged in water and dish soap or sprayed with WD40"
Yo Brian next episode pls build budget pc for splitgate? dont forget tech yes lovin thanks
Split gate?
@@iamperplexed4695 check it out on steam and its beta mode game combination halo and portal put it together.
i dont think you put enough load in the chipset.
you need to put pci e 4.0 in the chipset like m2.
if you only put m2 in first slot, that pci lane is connected directly to the cpu and not chipset
I honestly thought AM5 was going to be here by the end of the year, now that appears to be the end of next year I really might have to get something like this. I might wait to see what Alder Lake and Zen 3D is like first though.
might want to hold on for DDR5 support
May as well just wait your whole life. there's even better stuff in 50 years, wait for that.
They are waiting for DDR5 to be up to speed
@@lunchie80 you will make some very bad decisions in life if you don't ever consider timing for your purchases.
@@coolumar335 I would say a lot of this will be chicken and the egg though.
my X570 works fine i never hear my fan on it very quiet mine as i has the extra fan on the motherboard
funny names they come up with "riptide "next hearthpiercer ?
When will the X570S motherboards finally be out? Next to the GPUs this is the other reason why I am still waiting for buying a new PC. I don't want a chipset fan.
There are a few x570 MB's with a heatpipe on the chipset though.
@@Revener666 Better than a moving part that can technically have planned obsolescnce. XD
@@introvertplays6162 Yeah, TBH I should have spentyy a littler bit more and bought the MSi MB with a heatpipe. Have an ASUS MB now and the fan being cramped behind a hot GPU is not the best. Helps turning up the fan on the GPU though.
Are there any differences in boot times?
Phase 8+2 is disappointing on a ''X570'' mobo, I have 12+2 on a B550
This only matters/counts if the phases are the same size. 8 beefy phases are no worse than 12 medium phases. It handled the 5950x fine so who cares
@@lunchie80 Beefy550 :P
If it's true, tell me how to verify that, I want to know.. (about the size)
@Nico Yk Can you be more vague than that? The VRM heatsink can be removed not opened, anyway..
@Nico Yk I will pray Jesus instead for beefy phases so I won't have to. XD
Depends if they are good VRMS or not
good vidya, B 👍
I like Red Dragon 😀
I'm getting a ROG Strix X570-E Gaming with a 3900x 12 core a buddy is building for me. We figure it will blow away my current i7 4960x and it'll be running a M2 ssd drive on one of the M2 ports so should be way faster than the sata ssd drives I boot from now. It'll have all the latest features and should support just about any Ryzen chip out there now.
I think for now it's the chip set to go with if you want to run AMD and it will be just picking the features and price your willing to pay.
Buddy builds systems and networks professionally so I help him scrap trade ins and we trade for money and parts and he always has cool leftovers to trade with me.
Prepare to be underwhelmed. Nvme vs SATA in day to day tasks is not that much different. Nothing at all like the difference between say a HDD and an SSD. Maybe a second or two here or there in games at best. Essentially unnoticeable.
Definitely noticeable if transferring large files from nvme to nvme BUT even SATA SSD to SATA SSD is 3-4x faster than a hdd
@@lunchie80 I'm not expecting it to boot significantly faster myself like you said but he swears it will boot lightning quick. My old boxes boot very quickly with a sata ssd anyway compared to a normal hard drive. I am expecting it to recode videos and play games significantly faster from the extra cores and memory bandwidth though. Will be nice to be able to run some of the newer hardware my old board doesn't support directly too. I might have to get another 16 gig of memory to bring it up to what my rig has now but we'll see how it runs. I hate having to reload and figure things out again after getting everything dialed in on my old setup but should be worth it. Too bad I can't afford a video card upgrade but I guess my 1070gtx will have to do.
ASROCKs are GOOD
Dang it, i love the PCB and features/price but cant find it Argentina where is located ASRock repair service for the whole south America ironically...Sounds like a joke :(
can laptop cpu use to desktop mobo?
Wait, why is it so expensive? What are you doing ASRock???
The first one is expensive, the second more expensive.
S for silent no fan on the north bridge chip......
Why did them take 2 years to figure this out... We sure had hits that people knew about it with the Gigabyte Aorus Xtreme.
What happened to your hair colour?
they are doing this as a way to get rid of excess motherboards and chipsets since there going to am5.
Wow is that alot of words for a simple question. Do they all respond like that? As if they are all failed novelists or litigators hoping to one day rekindle their writing chops ? 0:52
well since i only use gen 3 nvme's the chipset fan only runs at boot up so pointless to swap over lol X570 unifiy
sooooo if the chipset fans were never needed (tghis is proven since they are releasing boards NOW without them.........) WHY DID THEY MAKE THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE
Me: *sees x570 platform and z570 and also RTX 3k series*
Guess I won't be upgrading anytime soon, maybe 4th gen or 5th.
Still running r5 1600, x370 and 1070ti. Just biding my time untip its right.
They slap a "s" on the box and charge you 50 bucks more.
LTT reviewed this mobo and spoiler alert it's all marketing.
Interesting
that music in the background when you are explaining is distracting
TECH YES CITY FOREVER!!!!!!!
Had a feeling it wasn't what it seemed.
So it's just a b550 board? I thought b550 was already pcie4.0 without a fan...
b550 =/= x570
I don't see a point 🤔 seems a bit late.
S just means no fan.
Or you can get a B550... :)
yea if u're only for gaming with no future uses outside of gaming like editing/dedicated livestreaming rig uses, yea i woulda gone for a B550 but i'm one of those people who likes to recycle for a future use so no i'm happy X570S came out so i don't have to worry about a Chipset fan
The problem with Asrock is they have shit customer service so if you have any problems you going to be stuck..... do research on the company first and see the problems people had with Asrock customer service thank you for the awesome video though as always
This kind of seemed more like an advertisement for asrock than a review.
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So biggest difference is passive heatsink. Thoroughly tests everything EXCEPT loading chipset with at least a GEN4 pcie drive for thermals 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
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S stands for Satan of course
Too bad Asrock became a cheapo trash company, would never buy any of their product anymore...
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