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I upgraded from an intel 4th gen build with ALC892 onboard audio and after upgrading to an AM5 motherboard with SA1200 onboard audio it sounds better where I don't need to use the audio program to make things sound better fxsound. Because it hardly sounds any different now when I needed it before or else it sounded like I was listening to music through a glass door. Also all the static I used to hear from turning up the headphones volume louder is completely gone. All of this is while using the same headphones. It doesn't go as loud now but its max volume is still a bit louder than I would set the volume to anyways
We are a PC shop based in Pakistan. MAXSUN B650M Wifi has lowest RMA rate in our AM5 mobo sales. One non-posting board out of 110+ sales which we fixed just by flashing bios via the bios chip flasher. Fun fact: MAXSUN B650M Wifi came with wrong power settings for Ryzen 7900 (65W) at 130W, which was fixed in bios 3.2G after we elevated the issue to their support. Solid board for 65W Ryzens and 7800X 3D. We did a short review of it but that's in Pakistan's national language. This is a standout board putting mainstream brands to shame.
@@AlexHusTech Use SPI instead of predefined chip info in the flasher. Also, we have an 8 pin crocodile clamp which is to be held firmly above the exposed contacts from side of SMD IC and then running the software. Kinda pain to do it but it can be done 👍
Maxsun is now the go to brand when it comes to budget boards for many people here in China. JginYue is a pretty good new player , but their boards usually require a little bit more tinkering.
I used to run a PC building business, we bought lots of Jginyue, had issues sometimes, quality was average to below average in my case. Never tried maxsun.
Man it wasn't all that long ago that the only motherboards over 100 dollars were HEDT or server grade. Now there are barely and under 100 dollar options. Good to see someone putting some lower cost options out.
bought maxsun b650m challenger wifi + ryzen 7 7700 and man the performance with 3090, i was hesitate in the beginning but glad i grabbed maxsun it was almost 40% off compared to gigabyte b650m and performance extremely satisfying
I've bought a Jingyue B550 & X99 motherboard from AliExpress, and i was impressed with both, i didn't see the issue with chinese in the bios, but both of them were text only bios's
glad to see you still making videos buddy! Getting back into the budget pc building game as well due to being appalled at the pricing in my area. Only way to fight it i to make deals, build and sell again. at least its fun to do
Every Chinese mobo Ive tried worked perfectly. The only thing I didnt like is you won't be getting any updates usually. Machinist makes decent boards and I think they do release bios updates but I think that's about all.
This is a deal breaker imho. No bios support especially considering the major patches that seem to come out for all sockets and CPU generations would be a potential big issue.
@@lunchie80 Yeah they are cheap for a reason, no bios updates, no tech support, and i guess no warranty, they may say there is a warranty but who would send their boards back to China? these boards sound like too much of a faff for me i like to set my systems up and have no problems, not worth having hassle to save a few dollars.
What a great video. I have never taken the time to look outside of the top brands when it came to motherboards, but I think I will from now on. I'd love to see more comparisons with other unknown motherboards from China.
I have 2 of those Jginyue B650i Night devils one for my sons build and one for a new build for me both have 7800xt and 32gb or ram and 2tb Pcie 4.0 NVMEs sons has a 7500f and I have a 7700 sons has a sapphire pure 7800xt a deepcool 280mm AIO housed in a Cooler Master NR200p V2 mine will be housed in a Q58 pcie 4 with a deepcool 280mm AIO and ASRock Steel Legend 7800 xt. Apart from the PCIE 4.0 riser on the Lian Li Q58 being DOA and waiting for a new one both run perfectly well. I think I paid less than £1100 GBP for them each
I had a frustrating experience with the JGinyue B650i motherboard, as it was overvolting the CPU cores to around 1.46 volts. I'm unsure how to manage this issue, especially since I'm using a Ryzen 7 7700. I'm concerned that this motherboard might damage my processor
@@SamuelMoreir try undervolt using ryzen master, i think 1.15-1.20 should be fine, also read some Reddit posts about this board, i think they said there how to undervolt because of high voltage usage.
Have you had any experience with long term bios support for these? Like if a major flaw or issue appears, do they release a bios fix as quickly as major manufacturers or release them at all?
These boards have plenty of problems: 1) 3 pin fans work at 100% rpm, all the time. Use only 4 pin fans. 2) bios update is not user friendly and no bios "flashback". Bios out of the box bios may be old version and have bad memory support. 3) Not all ram timings are present in the bios.
I'm running a JGINYUE B450I ITX motherboard with a ryzen 5600 and RTX4060. I'm very happy with the MB's performance and stability. I will have to consider this B650I.
Would love to see long-term testing on these boards. I would think they wouldn't cause the same outroar if theey start crashing as the big 4, so it would be nice to know - cause if they don't crap themselves after a few years, they'e great!
I have a jyiniue x79 for almost 4 years and still working fine, also got a520 and b550 maxsun boards this year and they also works ok, no issues whatsoever.
maaaaaaaaaaaan ive found this itx thing last week and now u are on the road with that thing, my order is still on the way and has nothing expeced but im now excited, bought it for 104 euros and if this thing is rly that good i would have no problems buying more of this :)
You should make a separate in depth video about better performance on ITX from shorter memory tracing. That is the first time I hear about it and I can't find anybody else that has done such tests.
The simplistic BIOS is because it's a basic American Megatrends Aptio UEFI chip. Fits a basic motherboard perfectly, but if you're looking for easy overclocking and flexibility, it's not exactly user-friendly. Give me DIP switches any day. 😼
Can you please review the Jginyue b350i plus? Im planning to upgrade my main system and repurpose my r5 2600x, but finding a new or used itx motherboard that is compatible with ryzen 2000 series is hard to find where I'm from.
I learned the hard way not to cheap out on the motherboard as it is the base of the PC and usually will not be upgraded as often as other PC parts. I would happily pay double and even more for an AM5 board as it will last for many years and many CPU and GPU upgrades. Tried 4 or 5 z370 and z390 boards with a few different CPU and yes for low end i5 and lower CPUs with standard 3200 cl16 ram it doesn't matter much but for i7 and up it makes a big difference especially for 4000+ cl16 ram and that makes a big difference in PC responsiveness and gaming.
I personally have been using the B650i Motherboard myself and not had any issues had the weird quirk of the adding a wifi card thing, but it's defo a bargain and works well with the ryzen 7700 I also got on aliexpress.
*I got 2 Maxsun B650 Challenger, 1 I bricked after a BIOS update (My fault), second I'm currently using but BIOS corrupted out of nowhere, so can't get into BIOS, seems like a common issue :(*
That sucks to hear mate! I'm still rocking am4 for my main rig but was considering on upgrading to am5 this coming sale period with the b650m challenger as the base...may have to look elsewhere
i have the b650i from jginyue paired with a r7 7700 non x and works ok, yiou will have problems with the pci raiser paired on 40xx gpu series, no problems with 30xx and pci raisers (gen4 risers) but for the moment is working very good with my 32gb of ram running at 6000mhz.
I recently purchased the JGinyue B650i motherboard to use with a Ryzen 7 7700, but I'm noticing that the vCore voltage is quite high, around 1.460 volts. I'm concerned about this. Has anyone else experienced the same issue, or does anyone have advice on how to manage it?
Do either of those support the APUs? I just want an 8600G rig. No discrete GPU, just the iGPU. I'd love to know how they perform with an APU, if at all.
i love the color coding on the front panel i miss that now being older the lase pc mother board i saw that was a emachine and a ecs motherboard for my Pentium 4 ecs motherboard
Biggest issue with the Night Devil is the ram support, different people tested the board with multiple RAM compatibilities, so far it is reported that the board works better with SK Hynix A die for 32GB kit. I took one pair myself, but weirdly, after running 3 weeks without issue at EXPO settings, it suddenly refused to boot into Windows.. had to move it back to default... I'll have to probably live with it.. Could you share the ram kit model you used to test the board? Thanks
I recently bought a cpu cooler with a screen display for temperature. The drivers had suspicious phishing code and registry tampering deep in it. That most antivirus won't pick it up.
Already tried a cheap Chinese motherboard, not B650M but A520M. Enough for stock setting, but I cannot go any further for overclocking, and sometimes I find weird issues with NVME that I never found on any other board like MSI or Asrock.
i want to get the 650 night devil and pair it with a 8400F do you know if it will run the CPU out of the box? if not can you advise on what to do please.
Hi I’m kinda new to the idea of tuning the bios - tuning the memory and the cpu. Do you know of , or do you have videos about this for beginners? I have a pc that I built that’s on the low midrange.
An unikely pairing...500 USD CPU and 90 USD motherboard. Obviously geared towards less power hungry chips, where VRM temps will be perfectly fine. Still I would always pay the premium for the established brands
I was going to buy this but it's missing the bios flashback to install the new 8000 series. so I went with asrock instead. but I absolutely love maxsun.
kind of interesting, but I picked up a used 7700x for 150 this weekend, then found an openbox(was new, had never been chipped) gigabyte aourus elite ax for 125. Also not seeing and discounts here in US, just 100 dollar board
Hey ! I'm planning on buying a 7950X, 7900X minimum, to get a decade-long lasting computer. Here's my question : Which motherboard and PSU would you recommand ? X670 ? 650 ? X670E ? It's really confusing. For the PSU I can put 150€ in it, 850W prefered. I don't see myself using 850W ever but who knows Thanks for your plausible answers.
the problem i have with thpse is the warranty, or the lack of it, because i have to pay to send the unit for warranty and that cost is equal to the price of the unit
Older Chinese boards always had 0 fan control, non functional temp sensors and shitty bios. my last h61 board that randomgaminghd reviewed, the killsre or something. when i would put the cpu fan header in the cpu fan connector, it would constantly go from idle to 20 rpm to full rpm lol, that thing lost it's mind. having said that when you inspect the board visually, they look as high quality as any other board, and they generally run pretty stable on not too power hungry cpu's. From reading around forums these boards are not worth the 50$ you spend, lower quality components and common failure of the bios chip.
*I'll stick to ASRock motherboards ! It is the ONLY brand I trust !* Not one let me down, and even the customer service is top notch ! ( at least in Holland )
Since these companies repurpose old chipsets like the X99 I was wondering if they also are reusing other parts? Is it possible or practical for them to be reusing capacitors, mosfets, etc?
The midgets are fine being old new stock. They have a very long shelf life as long as they are using the correct rated mosfets. Ceramic caps will last a very long time as well. The only capacitors you want to watch out for the electrolytic. Those will fail in time used or not from degradation.
I got Jginyue B650I Night Devil for a while, with KingBank DDR5 6400 64GB, I can only get it stable at 5800 with Ryzen 7 7700 from AliExpress. Also cheap few 4.0 riser cables doesn't get along well, even if I set at PCIe 3.0
These prices are crazy! £76.99 for the ITX... even without the wifi and heat. I paid £160 Asus Strix for my intel one 5 months ago 😕 I could of just use google lens to translate and AMD😅
Hey guys I plan to buy this board since it's really cheap for an AM5 board where I live $50 difference. Anyone know of I need to buy a specific RAM module? Been searching online but findings are mixed. Really appreciate any help!
I've just removed my b650i night devil and replaced it with a b650i edge wifi. If you buy one make sure your ram is cl34 or higher. My cl30 6000 caused unlimited crashes and blue screens. Got sick of trying to be a professor...gamed for 6 months at 5200mhz. B650i night devil going cheap in NZ anyone?
Do these work with Linux!??!?! Some Linux distributions support secure boot, some do not, certain motherboard features can cause issues with installing a Linux distribution.
Wouldn't recommend the maxsun board. I'm unable to update the bios on mine because it always errors out checking the bios file in the update tool, even though I followed the documentation to a T.
My first board bricked because of that! Try flashing one by one instead of the latest build and see if that works. My second board I can't get into the BIOS anymore :/
JingYue and Huananzhi are recyclers they take broken or unused old Retail/Server computers takes the chipsets and solders them to on to a new PCB along with mediocre or sometimes real crappy parts like the VRM for instance they have been around for a while now too but they have recently started producing motherboards with newer chipsets like AM4 B450/B350 and Intel B660/B760 looks like they just started with the B650 line this year now weather it has actually has brand new chips in it we would never be sure but if it works it works just don't expect any bios updates or any kind of support coming your way. Oneway way to drop the temps on the VRM's is to replace the cheap crappy pads they are using with a Gelid GC Extreme pad just costs a few $$ but should drop them by 10-15C easily vs the old crappy one.
I have purchased 3 HuananZhi motherboards (1 x X79 Deluxe, 2 x X99TF)...one is on its 5th year, and both my home office and family room PC's on their 4th year. In terms of build quality and reliability, they've been excellent. As for the X99TF, it handles the power of the E5-2696v3 (18C/36T, turbo unlocked) with aplomb. The X79 was given to a friend of my daughter's last year...running well, paired with an E5-4627v2. We basically made a build from extra parts I had lying around the office...a vertical test bench, spare 650W PSU, 32GB DDR3, and a venerable 2080 Super. As for recycled parts...yes, when it comes to the server chipset (i.e. C612 on the X99TF's, C602 on the X79 Deluxe). As for the rest of the MB...10 layer PCB...good caps...good VRM power delivery and heat dissipation.
@@jb678901 the first few batches were pretty good especially the HuananZhi X99TF but if you buy one right now most of the lower end units are pretty crappy I have seen VRM's go over 100C especially the Memory power VRM on a lot of them just cause you were lucky enough to get the higher build quality units 5 years ago doesn't mean they don't make bottom of the barrel crap all the time especially the HuananZhi X99TF-Q that one uses a completely different chipset and VRM's the HuananZhi X99TF is rarely available these days and when it is its on a very expensive price point.
AMD promised at least one more generation of AM5 CPUs, so both boards have a long way to go for better BIOS, tuning and stability if they really focus on it.
I personally had experience with that Jginyue board, it was massively overvolting the CPU cores and SOC, and idle power consumption on 7600 was 30-35W package power, while on my MSI the consumption is like 15W. And don't let me even start talking about memory overclocking. Honestly, walk away.
I recently purchased the JGinyue B650i motherboard to use with a Ryzen 7 7700, but I'm noticing that the vCore voltage is quite high, around 1.460 volts. I'm concerned about this. Does anyone have advice on how to manage it?
I haven't had any problems with Aliexpress, except when I have had problems with Aliexpress... If something does go wrong (received broken etc), the customer service is very deliberately dodgy. Paypal can be helpful, but there are no guarantees.
I know I know, it's early in Aus, I woke up at 2am... couldn't get back to sleep so just edited this video out. Hope you guys enjoyed it!
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Now get some rest
night devil? I want the GWEILO
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1:57 "LOWER is better" this is a Cinebench score yes?
Lower is most certainly not better sir
@@BrophyMichael Thanks for that, I am just going to blur that out :P, guess it's not good editing at 2am in the morning lol...
Thanks for checking the on board audio. That's missed in most motherboard reviews and it's a very important feature
I upgraded from an intel 4th gen build with ALC892 onboard audio and after upgrading to an AM5 motherboard with SA1200 onboard audio it sounds better where I don't need to use the audio program to make things sound better fxsound. Because it hardly sounds any different now when I needed it before or else it sounded like I was listening to music through a glass door. Also all the static I used to hear from turning up the headphones volume louder is completely gone. All of this is while using the same headphones. It doesn't go as loud now but its max volume is still a bit louder than I would set the volume to anyways
When you've worked around helicopters for thirty-odd years, there's no such thing as high-definition audio. So that's not such a high priority for me.
You could easily just fix it by buying an apple dongle type c to 3.5mm and get a nice audiophile entry
LOL. I have good speakers, 2 x 21 W, and for that output on-board audio is out of question. 🤣
We are a PC shop based in Pakistan. MAXSUN B650M Wifi has lowest RMA rate in our AM5 mobo sales. One non-posting board out of 110+ sales which we fixed just by flashing bios via the bios chip flasher.
Fun fact: MAXSUN B650M Wifi came with wrong power settings for Ryzen 7900 (65W) at 130W, which was fixed in bios 3.2G after we elevated the issue to their support. Solid board for 65W Ryzens and 7800X 3D. We did a short review of it but that's in Pakistan's national language. This is a standout board putting mainstream brands to shame.
Hey what tool did you use to flash? My board is bricked, I tried to use the CH341A but can't seem to get the clamp on.
@@AlexHusTech Use SPI instead of predefined chip info in the flasher.
Also, we have an 8 pin crocodile clamp which is to be held firmly above the exposed contacts from side of SMD IC and then running the software. Kinda pain to do it but it can be done 👍
@@AlexHusTech also, it's 1.8V chip on Maxsun B650M Wifi
@@AlexHusTech sorry for 3rd notification, totally forgot to tell the name, it's RT809F
Will this board be able to max out the Ryzen 7700?@@amdhousepk
I was just looking at ITX Am5 boards and they are EXPENSIVE; thanks for testing these out!
Yes, I love SFF PCs, but I don't want to pay 200+ for just a motherboard. That's the main thing that kept me out of SFF.
I recently bought msi edge b650l. 250$ 😥
Maxsun is now the go to brand when it comes to budget boards for many people here in China. JginYue is a pretty good new player , but their boards usually require a little bit more tinkering.
So, if I may ask, is Maxsun brand any good?
I used to run a PC building business, we bought lots of Jginyue, had issues sometimes, quality was average to below average in my case.
Never tried maxsun.
How about Colorful? The B650 is in white colour.
Awesome review, so in depth! Love the audio information as well. Thanks for the fantastic content.
Man it wasn't all that long ago that the only motherboards over 100 dollars were HEDT or server grade. Now there are barely and under 100 dollar options. Good to see someone putting some lower cost options out.
Why all of sudden these new generation motherboard's prices went up?
bought maxsun b650m challenger wifi + ryzen 7 7700 and man the performance with 3090, i was hesitate in the beginning but glad i grabbed maxsun it was almost 40% off compared to gigabyte b650m and performance extremely satisfying
VRM on both boards are decent considering the price. BIOS and memory OC tuning still has a long way to go.
I've bought a Jingyue B550 & X99 motherboard from AliExpress, and i was impressed with both, i didn't see the issue with chinese in the bios, but both of them were text only bios's
Thank you very much.
I especially appreciate your testing components from Ali Express.
Thanks for reviewing these chinese b650 boards. Been considering them. Especially the ones with optical out for audio.
glad to see you still making videos buddy! Getting back into the budget pc building game as well due to being appalled at the pricing in my area. Only way to fight it i to make deals, build and sell again. at least its fun to do
Every Chinese mobo Ive tried worked perfectly. The only thing I didnt like is you won't be getting any updates usually. Machinist makes decent boards and I think they do release bios updates but I think that's about all.
This is a deal breaker imho. No bios support especially considering the major patches that seem to come out for all sockets and CPU generations would be a potential big issue.
@@lunchie80 We're talking about end-of-supoort chipsets here. These borads aren't getting meaningful upgrades anymore.
What do you mean by machinist?
@@lunchie80 Yeah they are cheap for a reason, no bios updates, no tech support, and i guess no warranty, they may say there is a warranty but who would send their boards back to China? these boards sound like too much of a faff for me i like to set my systems up and have no problems, not worth having hassle to save a few dollars.
Jginyue offers BIOS for 9000 series Ryzen for their AM5 motherboards already...
What a great video. I have never taken the time to look outside of the top brands when it came to motherboards, but I think I will from now on.
I'd love to see more comparisons with other unknown motherboards from China.
I have 2 of those Jginyue B650i Night devils one for my sons build and one for a new build for me both have 7800xt and 32gb or ram and 2tb Pcie 4.0 NVMEs sons has a 7500f and I have a 7700 sons has a sapphire pure 7800xt a deepcool 280mm AIO housed in a Cooler Master NR200p V2 mine will be housed in a Q58 pcie 4 with a deepcool 280mm AIO and ASRock Steel Legend 7800 xt. Apart from the PCIE 4.0 riser on the Lian Li Q58 being DOA and waiting for a new one both run perfectly well. I think I paid less than £1100 GBP for them each
I had a frustrating experience with the JGinyue B650i motherboard, as it was overvolting the CPU cores to around 1.46 volts. I'm unsure how to manage this issue, especially since I'm using a Ryzen 7 7700. I'm concerned that this motherboard might damage my processor
@@SamuelMoreir try undervolt using ryzen master, i think 1.15-1.20 should be fine, also read some Reddit posts about this board, i think they said there how to undervolt because of high voltage usage.
@@SamuelMoreirThere is a bios update.
is this mobo any good?
Rgb bios unlocks extra 4 cores
Then after that you can download extra RAM and FPS.
@@techyescitywe already downloaded all the fps with Lossless 😂 just need more ram now
@@techyescityhow can we update bios ?
Have you had any experience with long term bios support for these? Like if a major flaw or issue appears, do they release a bios fix as quickly as major manufacturers or release them at all?
I am in the process of upgrading myself, from an i5-8400 to a i5-12400f ($165AUD!) Mobo is an MSI B760
I picked up a 135 dollar 5700 X3D, new tray cpu during this sale, will see if its real when it gets here, very good sales during this promotion.
These boards have plenty of problems:
1) 3 pin fans work at 100% rpm, all the time. Use only 4 pin fans.
2) bios update is not user friendly and no bios "flashback". Bios out of the box bios may be old version and have bad memory support.
3) Not all ram timings are present in the bios.
Did you know Sapphire makes an AM5 motherboard under the Nitro+ name? Have you tried it yet?
I'm running a JGINYUE B450I ITX motherboard with a ryzen 5600 and RTX4060. I'm very happy with the MB's performance and stability. I will have to consider this B650I.
Would love to see long-term testing on these boards. I would think they wouldn't cause the same outroar if theey start crashing as the big 4, so it would be nice to know - cause if they don't crap themselves after a few years, they'e great!
Been using long term, common issues is can't get into BIOS anymore :/
@AlexHusTech strange... it's not "fast boot" is it? Had the same on a Gogabyte board once, until I learned to disable fast boot :p
@@MrMcGreed No, it's not that, it's disabled.
@@AlexHusTech Disabled? After a bios-update, or how? It seems really strange - but then again, that's what I was after with long-term testing :P
I have a jyiniue x79 for almost 4 years and still working fine, also got a520 and b550 maxsun boards this year and they also works ok, no issues whatsoever.
You can still buy brand new b450 motherboards for $70. Until am5 motherboards get to that price and the cpus drop below $200, I’ll stick to am4.
There are b550s that are somewhere there too.
$70? On Amazon or Newegg?
Cheapest new b550 boards on Newegg start at $85 but cheapest decent ones go for $95 and above.
where?
@@rnegoro1 b550 is still am4, I’m talking about b650, am5 motherboards are still more expensive.
I bought an MSI b650 motherboard for $98 and a Ryzen 5 7600x for $166 so you better get ready to switch 😂
Thanks for board cheking audio ❤
maaaaaaaaaaaan ive found this itx thing last week and now u are on the road with that thing, my order is still on the way and has nothing expeced but im now excited, bought it for 104 euros and if this thing is rly that good i would have no problems buying more of this :)
How was it
You should make a separate in depth video about better performance on ITX from shorter memory tracing. That is the first time I hear about it and I can't find anybody else that has done such tests.
The simplistic BIOS is because it's a basic American Megatrends Aptio UEFI chip. Fits a basic motherboard perfectly, but if you're looking for easy overclocking and flexibility, it's not exactly user-friendly.
Give me DIP switches any day. 😼
Have you ever found 12V-only motherboards? I heard they are custom built buy several cloud providers but have never found them in the wild..
One of my favorite older boards was my Z390 ITX/AC Asrock PG. Night Devil looks interesting.
Thanks. You may do a ryzen 9000 review on these motherboard.
Can you please review the Jginyue b350i plus? Im planning to upgrade my main system and repurpose my r5 2600x, but finding a new or used itx motherboard that is compatible with ryzen 2000 series is hard to find where I'm from.
They seem to offer bios updates, so that’s good
I learned the hard way not to cheap out on the motherboard as it is the base of the PC and usually will not be upgraded as often as other PC parts.
I would happily pay double and even more for an AM5 board as it will last for many years and many CPU and GPU upgrades.
Tried 4 or 5 z370 and z390 boards with a few different CPU and yes for low end i5 and lower CPUs with standard 3200 cl16 ram it doesn't matter much but for i7 and up it makes a big difference especially for 4000+ cl16 ram and that makes a big difference in PC responsiveness and gaming.
I personally have been using the B650i Motherboard myself and not had any issues had the weird quirk of the adding a wifi card thing, but it's defo a bargain and works well with the ryzen 7700 I also got on aliexpress.
How about the lower tier processors? Like Ryzen 7500F - 7700? Does the maxsun be able to max those performances out?
*I got 2 Maxsun B650 Challenger, 1 I bricked after a BIOS update (My fault), second I'm currently using but BIOS corrupted out of nowhere, so can't get into BIOS, seems like a common issue :(*
Yep, I also have a challenger which just doesn't boot into bios for some reason. I bought a new mobo tho
@@EXTENDCS2 same, it would not boot into bios after first boot, but loads into windows fine
@@woostinstechflip Have you tried reflashing the same BIOS version? Let me know if you try it and it works.
@@woostinstechflip i have a theory that maybe secure boot broke it?
thats the last thing i did in the bios before it bricked.
That sucks to hear mate! I'm still rocking am4 for my main rig but was considering on upgrading to am5 this coming sale period with the b650m challenger as the base...may have to look elsewhere
I am using a Jginyue B350i board right now. So far so good.
i have the b650i from jginyue paired with a r7 7700 non x and works ok, yiou will have problems with the pci raiser paired on 40xx gpu series, no problems with 30xx and pci raisers (gen4 risers) but for the moment is working very good with my 32gb of ram running at 6000mhz.
I recently purchased the JGinyue B650i motherboard to use with a Ryzen 7 7700, but I'm noticing that the vCore voltage is quite high, around 1.460 volts. I'm concerned about this. Has anyone else experienced the same issue, or does anyone have advice on how to manage it?
Why is digital audio out so hard to find now a days in motherboards under $200usd???????
Can you try it with the g chips please!
Do either of those support the APUs?
I just want an 8600G rig. No discrete GPU, just the iGPU.
I'd love to know how they perform with an APU, if at all.
Jginyue does
same doubt here. thinking on the same. Does it runs straight out of the box with R5 8600G Apu? No bios update or so?
@@IIEmptyBoxII If you doubt, go check their website and see for yourself since when that APU is supported...
i love the color coding on the front panel i miss that now being older the lase pc mother board i saw that was a emachine and a ecs motherboard for my Pentium 4 ecs motherboard
What rams sticks should be used for the night devil? Im looking for 6200 or 6400 sticks.
Biggest issue with the Night Devil is the ram support, different people tested the board with multiple RAM compatibilities, so far it is reported that the board works better with SK Hynix A die for 32GB kit. I took one pair myself, but weirdly, after running 3 weeks without issue at EXPO settings, it suddenly refused to boot into Windows.. had to move it back to default... I'll have to probably live with it..
Could you share the ram kit model you used to test the board?
Thanks
I recently bought a cpu cooler with a screen display for temperature. The drivers had suspicious phishing code and registry tampering deep in it. That most antivirus won't pick it up.
COOLIO?
Its good enough if you dont at all care for future BIOS revisions. Slap a 7800x3d in it and game.
Both boards offer bios updates,
@@Lennox032 but are they ever guaranteed, probably not as well as the big four.
@@Takashita_SukakokiJGINYUE iirc is AMD partnered. Their AM4 boards are still getting bios updates until now.
@@Takashita_SukakokiJGINYUE iirc is AMD partnered. Their AM4 boards are still getting bios updates until now.
Already tried a cheap Chinese motherboard, not B650M but A520M. Enough for stock setting, but I cannot go any further for overclocking, and sometimes I find weird issues with NVME that I never found on any other board like MSI or Asrock.
Maxsun is a well known brand, for those even slightly connected to computer parts/pc building.
Still no love for Biostar boards ?
i want to get the 650 night devil and pair it with a 8400F do you know if it will run the CPU out of the box? if not can you advise on what to do please.
Hi I’m kinda new to the idea of tuning the bios - tuning the memory and the cpu. Do you know of , or do you have videos about this for beginners? I have a pc that I built that’s on the low midrange.
I'm always interested in the AliExpress boards in terms of quality and performance
An unikely pairing...500 USD CPU and 90 USD motherboard. Obviously geared towards less power hungry chips, where VRM temps will be perfectly fine. Still I would always pay the premium for the established brands
Hi! Can the stock cpu cooler be installed fine?
I was going to buy this but it's missing the bios flashback to install the new 8000 series. so I went with asrock instead. but I absolutely love maxsun.
kind of interesting, but I picked up a used 7700x for 150 this weekend, then found an openbox(was new, had never been chipped) gigabyte aourus elite ax for 125. Also not seeing and discounts here in US, just 100 dollar board
I just recently upgraded my Steam PC to AM4 and now I see this. Wish I had waited a bit.
Hey !
I'm planning on buying a 7950X, 7900X minimum, to get a decade-long lasting computer.
Here's my question : Which motherboard and PSU would you recommand ?
X670 ? 650 ? X670E ?
It's really confusing.
For the PSU I can put 150€ in it, 850W prefered. I don't see myself using 850W ever but who knows
Thanks for your plausible answers.
Really nice ITX board for the price, but the only worry would be the bois support for future AM5 CPU.
Yeah these bois might not release BIOS updates
That's usually not a issue, CPU support are very basic for them. Memory is the hard part
@@iLoveTheseRemorasjginyue already released alot of updates
the problem i have with thpse is the warranty, or the lack of it, because i have to pay to send the unit for warranty and that cost is equal to the price of the unit
I picked up one of these B650i motherboards.
How is support for these boards, my main concern with these boards is getting BIOS updates.
Older Chinese boards always had 0 fan control, non functional temp sensors and shitty bios. my last h61 board that randomgaminghd reviewed, the killsre or something. when i would put the cpu fan header in the cpu fan connector, it would constantly go from idle to 20 rpm to full rpm lol, that thing lost it's mind. having said that when you inspect the board visually, they look as high quality as any other board, and they generally run pretty stable on not too power hungry cpu's. From reading around forums these boards are not worth the 50$ you spend, lower quality components and common failure of the bios chip.
*I'll stick to ASRock motherboards ! It is the ONLY brand I trust !* Not one let me down, and even the customer service is top notch ! ( at least in Holland )
Since these companies repurpose old chipsets like the X99 I was wondering if they also are reusing other parts? Is it possible or practical for them to be reusing capacitors, mosfets, etc?
The midgets are fine being old new stock. They have a very long shelf life as long as they are using the correct rated mosfets. Ceramic caps will last a very long time as well. The only capacitors you want to watch out for the electrolytic. Those will fail in time used or not from degradation.
I just bought the B650 and Ryzen 7 8700F combo but found out I need a R7 700 series.
Now what?
The problem with getting these chinese board is the uncertainty of bios update and future support for newer AM5 CPUs.
I got Jginyue B650I Night Devil for a while, with KingBank DDR5 6400 64GB, I can only get it stable at 5800 with Ryzen 7 7700 from AliExpress. Also cheap few 4.0 riser cables doesn't get along well, even if I set at PCIe 3.0
Your problem is probably due to dual rank RAM. Single rank RAM is easier to overclock...
Do u recommend maxun terminator b650m ?
12:57 is this info for the ITX board (night devil as listed) or MATX board sound roll off?
Sorry that is for the Maxsun, I just copy pasted the text and forgot to change the name of the board...
Not worth the hassle, ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 you can get already for 111€
this one is itx, it is worth
what hassle? thing just works and better than average even... sure go spend twice the amount if you wish
@@bartonesko3705 consider warranty
Nah, I would trust a cheap Chinese board more than an entry level Asrock.
Perfect to pair with 7500F
These prices are crazy! £76.99 for the ITX... even without the wifi and heat. I paid £160 Asus Strix for my intel one 5 months ago 😕 I could of just use google lens to translate and AMD😅
Hey guys I plan to buy this board since it's really cheap for an AM5 board where I live $50 difference. Anyone know of I need to buy a specific RAM module? Been searching online but findings are mixed. Really appreciate any help!
Other reviewers told that the Jginyue B650i Motherboard has no PWM Fan control. They act like 3Pin. This is a big no no for me.
Can the itx use the new 9000 series cpus?
Yes, there is a BIOS update for that since August 22 2024
I've just removed my b650i night devil and replaced it with a b650i edge wifi. If you buy one make sure your ram is cl34 or higher. My cl30 6000 caused unlimited crashes and blue screens. Got sick of trying to be a professor...gamed for 6 months at 5200mhz. B650i night devil going cheap in NZ anyone?
I swear they watch your channel and boost the prices when you review their items 😅
really good value for the money
Unsure if BIOS updates would work given the dodgey support from chinese hardware.
Can anyone with these motherboards tell me how well these motberboards work with Linux.
Im on the fence on buying one for myself.
Thanks in advance.
Do these work with Linux!??!?! Some Linux distributions support secure boot, some do not, certain motherboard features can cause issues with installing a Linux distribution.
Wouldn't recommend the maxsun board. I'm unable to update the bios on mine because it always errors out checking the bios file in the update tool, even though I followed the documentation to a T.
My first board bricked because of that! Try flashing one by one instead of the latest build and see if that works.
My second board I can't get into the BIOS anymore :/
JingYue and Huananzhi are recyclers they take broken or unused old Retail/Server computers takes the chipsets and solders them to on to a new PCB along with mediocre or sometimes real crappy parts like the VRM for instance they have been around for a while now too but they have recently started producing motherboards with newer chipsets like AM4 B450/B350 and Intel B660/B760 looks like they just started with the B650 line this year now weather it has actually has brand new chips in it we would never be sure but if it works it works just don't expect any bios updates or any kind of support coming your way.
Oneway way to drop the temps on the VRM's is to replace the cheap crappy pads they are using with a Gelid GC Extreme pad just costs a few $$ but should drop them by 10-15C easily vs the old crappy one.
I have purchased 3 HuananZhi motherboards (1 x X79 Deluxe, 2 x X99TF)...one is on its 5th year, and both my home office and family room PC's on their 4th year. In terms of build quality and reliability, they've been excellent. As for the X99TF, it handles the power of the E5-2696v3 (18C/36T, turbo unlocked) with aplomb.
The X79 was given to a friend of my daughter's last year...running well, paired with an E5-4627v2. We basically made a build from extra parts I had lying around the office...a vertical test bench, spare 650W PSU, 32GB DDR3, and a venerable 2080 Super.
As for recycled parts...yes, when it comes to the server chipset (i.e. C612 on the X99TF's, C602 on the X79 Deluxe). As for the rest of the MB...10 layer PCB...good caps...good VRM power delivery and heat dissipation.
@@jb678901 the first few batches were pretty good especially the HuananZhi X99TF but if you buy one right now most of the lower end units are pretty crappy I have seen VRM's go over 100C especially the Memory power VRM on a lot of them just cause you were lucky enough to get the higher build quality units 5 years ago doesn't mean they don't make bottom of the barrel crap all the time especially the HuananZhi X99TF-Q that one uses a completely different chipset and VRM's the HuananZhi X99TF is rarely available these days and when it is its on a very expensive price point.
Thing with all these chinese off-brand boards is that they never have any RGB. Wonder why.
How do you test motherboard audio
AMD promised at least one more generation of AM5 CPUs, so both boards have a long way to go for better BIOS, tuning and stability if they really focus on it.
nice Brian..
sir what is a CUDIMM?
Bad combination: the less expensive motherboard for the most expensive CPU.
but those gaming fps are so gpu dependent and the cpu is that much obsolete.
but the bios language issue tho
I personally had experience with that Jginyue board, it was massively overvolting the CPU cores and SOC, and idle power consumption on 7600 was 30-35W package power, while on my MSI the consumption is like 15W. And don't let me even start talking about memory overclocking.
Honestly, walk away.
I recently purchased the JGinyue B650i motherboard to use with a Ryzen 7 7700, but I'm noticing that the vCore voltage is quite high, around 1.460 volts. I'm concerned about this. Does anyone have advice on how to manage it?
I wouldn't buy a motherboard that doesn't have support, a bios update may be necessary, and noname motherboards will never have this.
Yeah, the mobo equivalent of a no name Chinese tablet.
What's on it now is the same as whats on it in 5 years zero support.
Yes
I haven't had any problems with Aliexpress, except when I have had problems with Aliexpress... If something does go wrong (received broken etc), the customer service is very deliberately dodgy. Paypal can be helpful, but there are no guarantees.
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the stereo type chibese virus i don't see that in your videos , 😂